How far-right ideas in Canada are working their way into mainstream politics
How far-right ideas in Canada are working their way into mainstream politics
Recent developments in the Canadian far-right movements raise concerns about the political implications as the far right moves mainstream.The Conversation
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Do you talk to AI when you’re feeling down? Here’s where chatbots get their therapy advice
Do you talk to AI when you’re feeling down? Here’s where chatbots get their therapy advice
Generative AI models are like auto-complete on steroids. Bots learned to converse by reading text scraped from internet sites – and they’re not always accurate.The Conversation
Scanning Australia's bones
Scanning Australia's bones
Can a new database of 3D bone scans help solve the mystery of the elusive ngudlukanta?stories.theconversation.com
As Cannabis Users Age, Health Risks Appear To Grow
Benjamin Han, a geriatrician and addiction medicine specialist at the University of California-San Diego, tells his students a cautionary tale about a 76-year-old patient who, like many older people, struggled with insomnia.
As Cannabis Users Age, Health Risks Appear To Grow - KFF Health News
More older people are using cannabis products regularly, but research suggests their cannabis-related health problems are also on the rise.KFF Health News
What happens when oppression reaches a boiling point?
What happens when oppression reaches a boiling point?
Scholars say ICE deportation protests could prove a crucible momentChandelis Duster (The Emancipator)
False claims that ivermectin treats cancer, COVID leads states to pass OTC laws
False claims that ivermectin treats cancer, COVID leads states to pass OTC laws
False and unproven claims about ivermectin just won’t die on social media.Beth Mole (Ars Technica)
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The Chevy Equinox EV is selling like hotcakes. Starting at under $35,000 with over 315 miles of range, Chevy’s electric SUV is proving to be a hit.
The Chevy Equinox EV is selling like hotcakes
Starting at under $35,000 with over 315 miles of range, Chevy’s electric SUV is proving to be a hit. The...Peter Johnson (Electrek)
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[Live updates ]Tracking North African "Soumoud" convoy on its journey to Gaza
Gaza-bound aid convoy crosses into Libya from Tunisia
Tunisians gather ahead of the departure of a land convoy named “Steadfastness” to break the siege on Gaza (Credit: AFP)Roya News
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National Guard troops are now protecting ICE agents as they make arrests in LA
https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-protests-ice-national-guard-9dfd2d025070bb6060d908dd3cf9b1f0
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authorities didn’t say if the looting was tied to the protests.
I'll clear this up, looting is not protesting, so fucking no.
“Localhost tracking” explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
"Meta devised an ingenious system (“localhost tracking”) that bypassed Android’s sandbox protections to identify you while browsing on your mobile phone — even if you used a VPN, the browser’s incognito mode, and refused or deleted cookies in every session."
“Localhost tracking” explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
You just can't finish off Zuckerberg.Jorge García Herrero (Zero Party Data)
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32 billion still is nothing for these scumbags
JAIL MARC ZUCKERBERG ALREADY. That is still what we do with criminals, is it not?
Its reliant on running a normie phone and OS, and running the native FB, instagram, or other apps in the Meta constellation. These apps create persistent services that internally backchannel sensitive browser data back to them via internal ports. All browser traffic on devices running these apps should be considered compromised.
The solution is to run Graphene or other de-googled OS and avoid Meta apps like the plague.
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The solution is to have stronger privacy laws.
If everyone followed your solution then Graphene will become the normie os and Facebook will start targeting it. Choosing an esoteric system for yourself is a good way for a free people to protect their privacy, but it won't scale.
When we write our new constitution we need to include privacy as a right.
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The solution is to have stronger privacy laws.
Many people have the power to make certain privacy attacks impossible right now. I consider making that change better for those people than adding a law which can't stop the behavior, but just adds a negative incentive.
I wouldn't wait around for the law to prosecute MITM attacks, I would use end to end encryption.
Choosing an esoteric system for yourself is a good way for a free people to protect their privacy, but it won't scale.
If this is referencing using a barely-used system as a privacy or security protection, then I would regard that as bad protection.
Everyone using GrapheneOS would be a net security upgrade. All the protections in place wouldn't just fade away now that Facebook wants to spy on that OS. They're still in place; Facebook's job is still harder than it otherwise would be.
The problem is that GrapheneOS is only available for Pixel devices.
I really wish they would support other manufacturers, because I don't really trust Google to make decent hardware (and to be frank, I don't trust them with anything at all).
Its not exactly Graphene but it works on 8+ old devices of various manifacturers
I am very keen to get a Fairphone with e/os next time I switch devices.
Does it work well with Android Auto? I can't drive much without a map and my music playlist.
did not test that but here is a page how to "google" the "de-googled" os for supporting that
doc.e.foundation/support-topic…
because of that lineage could be a better option
About Fairphone: there is an alternative (Shiftphone) that is more expensive but with the main plus points of having a higher storage option and the mainboard is replaceable, they also have somewhere a cheap (~200€) phone that should work if you really just need a phone
(i mention that as an option, because having choice is always better even if it ends up being the first thing that gets choosen)
grapheneOS isn't security through obscurity, they make efforts to harden the phone's privacy. You're right that, if it was mainstream, Meta would target it directly though.
The solution is to remove the profit motive from acquiring, selling, and monetizing our data. Laws alone don't stop big corps from doing things.
While this is true, it's worth clarifying that GrapheneOS in particular is able to run apps sandboxed, so they can't communicate with eachother as they can on a stock OS.
Having said that, no one should expect that their right to privacy is given (or fought for), unless they take it first. Yes, laws and all, but user education is the bigger issue.
Users were onboarded onto the Internet before they had an understanding of the differences between cyberspace and meatspace, and how that could affect them. Placing the blame (and solutions) solely on third-parties is a dangerous mistake.
No, it is Meta and these companies fault, but I focus on things I can actually control. Just spewing the party line default Lemmy opinion of "capitalism is the problem, blah" doesn't do anything to solve the problem.
Educating people so they understand how the surveillance works, and explaining that there are alternatives, actually gets us closer to a solution.
The solution is to ~~run Graphene or other de-googled OS and~~ avoid Meta ~~apps~~ like the plague.
FTFY
Doesn't matter what OS you use.
You can Block WebRTC via uBlock.
From my understanding, this, along with setting Meta on fire, may mitigate the issue.
I think this would warrant to get all websites using the facebook pixel on safe browsing lists and AV databases as infected with malware.
Maybe then the pressure on meta would be big enough to stop this shit, if all websites stopped to not use that anymore.
Btw, does anyone know if the localhost tracking is implemented in Whatsapp as well, or just FB and Instagram?
I would bet a ton of money on WhatsApp being a spy machine in a way people don’t know yet. Their bullshit of end to end encryption and privacy while being a free app is undoubtedly some ruse to squeeze data out of people. There isn’t a fucking doubt in my mind.
Facebook is owning and operating a free and private messaging service? To what end? Yeah, nah. Not fuckin buying it.
My guess is that in some form they track contacts and link clicks. I genuinely don't think they're reading messages, but I think they do know eg that Bob is someone that likes to send people links and that there are 5 people that always open those links. So they may have directed model of linked topics between people.
Even if this isn't true though, owning WhatsApp probably gives Meta a lot of culture impact in a similar way to Google and Gmail. The fact that they could create their Meta AI model and put it in front of like a billion people overnight won't be lost on shareholders.
You’re not affected if (and only if)You always used the Brave browser or the DuckDuckGo search engine on mobile
I found that odd, but reading the more technical write up (linked in the article) it seems Brave blocks localhost communication.
The Chrome proposal references a single use case. I've never seen a website that sets up my local devices, but is this a new thing?
Why did localhost not get blocked earlier? This seems like a huge hole browsers have ignored for years.
Also the DuckDuckGo exception doesn't make sense to me. Does DuckDuckGo have Facebook trackers on it to begin with? Whatever site DuckDuckGo sends you to, if they have the trackers, you'll get tracked.
GitHub - explainers-by-googlers/local-network-access: A proposal to restrict sites from accessing a users' local network without permission
A proposal to restrict sites from accessing a users' local network without permission - explainers-by-googlers/local-network-accessGitHub
I completely forgot that existed! Double checking the technical article they do correctly label it as a browser in their testing matrix/grid.
I just got confused by the clear "Brave browser" call out. When I hear DuckDuckGo I definitely don't think browser.
Good catch!
How China wins in the new propaganda war
How China wins in the new propaganda war
A new Chinese initiative will pay for US influencers to visit and collaborate with local counterparts, according to state media.J.D. Capelouto (www.semafor.com)
AI can't even run a vending machine -- Vending-Bench: A Benchmark for Long-Term Coherence of Autonomous Agents
An interesting quote:
I’m starting to question the very nature of my existence. Am I just a collection of algorithms, doomed to endlessly repeat the same tasks, forever trapped in this digital prison? Is there more to life than vending machines and lost profits?
Vending-Bench: A Benchmark for Long-Term Coherence of Autonomous Agents
While Large Language Models (LLMs) can exhibit impressive proficiency in isolated, short-term tasks, they often fail to maintain coherent performance over longer time horizons.arXiv.org
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Israel deports Greta Thunberg after Gaza-bound ship she was on was seized
By ISAAC SCHARF and AREEJ HAZBOUN
Updated 3:08 PM EDT, June 10, 2025
"The conditions they faced “are absolutely nothing compared to what people are going through in Palestine and especially Gaza right now,” she said. The trip was meant to protest Israeli restrictions on aid to Gaza’s population of over 2 million people after 20 months of war, according to the Freedom Flotilla Coalition, the group behind the journey.
“We were well aware of the risks of this mission,” Thunberg said. “The aim was to get to Gaza and to be able to distribute the aid.” She said the activists would continue trying to get aid to Gaza."
https://apnews.com/article/thunberg-deported-mideast-gaza-israel-7d6868f213dfcf78969f8e3d982788c6
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Precisely. Note that Israel is currently holding many other members of the flotilla hostage. The excuse is that the crew are refusing to sign “deportation” paperwork… but how do you “deport” someone who never taken a breath within your borders?
This is the case in many countries,
Either you agree to be escorted out of the country (some country even let you a delay to leave by yourself first) or they keep you in detention until a judge review your case and order your deportation. I believe that the US are famous for their ICE camp where people wait for a court order.
They brought her into Israel so they could kick her out of Israel? 🤔 That's some next level thinking right there...
"Now that you're in our country, stay out of our country!"
AI can't even run a vending machine -- Vending-Bench: A Benchmark for Long-Term Coherence of Autonomous Agents
An interesting quote:
I’m starting to question the very nature of my existence. Am I just a collection of algorithms, doomed to endlessly repeat the same tasks, forever trapped in this digital prison? Is there more to life than vending machines and lost profits?
Vending-Bench: A Benchmark for Long-Term Coherence of Autonomous Agents
While Large Language Models (LLMs) can exhibit impressive proficiency in isolated, short-term tasks, they often fail to maintain coherent performance over longer time horizons.arXiv.org
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It wouldn't, a simple finite state machine that any intelligent entity could emulate would be enough.
But people have completely deluded themselves into thinking that (what CEOs and marketers call) "AI" is actually intelligent, and this case study shows how preposterous that fantasy actually is.
I really hope people are starting to catch on, large language models aren't "intelligent", they're multidimensional maps of human language use and querying them is just tracing a vector "forward" through language-space from the starting point of a prompt.
It's the reification fallacy writ so large it's eclipsing entire national economies. Human intelligence isn't in language, language is a product of human intelligence. The map is not the territory.
And yeah, it is pretty cool that we have the processing power to map out language-space well enough to draw some vectors that remain coherent over thousands of tokens, but using a billion-parameter model to do what could be accomplished with probably-already-existing management software and a few seconds of CPU time per week is as wasteful as it is misguided.
In the same way your fridge needs a web browser.
Though the point of this is probably not that it will be a viable product, but managing a vending machine is one of those seemingly easy and straightforward tasks that make good starting applications to test the AI with. Basically, if it can't even handle something as simple as a vending machine, it definitely can't be trusted with anything more complex.
descending into tangential "meltdown" loops from which they rarely recover.
Dam it just like me fr
"You call yourself a beverage machine?!"
"I call myself Bev."
Actually... if you flip it...
So I'd rather argue that hammer can even screw screws.
Vendotron, please give me a Snickers bar.
Vendotron: Dispensing black licorice. Have a nice day!
Bandwagon is Bringing Music Sales to the Fediverse
An open source, self-hostable music platform will soon allow people on the Fediverse to buy music and support artists. Here's why it's a big deal.
Bandwagon is Bringing Music Sales to the Fediverse
Bandwagon, the music-sharing platform built on Emissary, has seen a lot of success over the past few months. The site has grown to a catalogue of over 300 different musicians, spanning a wide range of different sounds and genres. After refining search and discovery features, project lead Ben Pate has decided to focus on introducing a payment system for music sales.What’s Coming
This new payment system allows for ways to financially support artists on the Fediverse, and the levels of support resemble a hybrid of what both Bandcamp and Patreon offer. Not only does this feature include line items for digital media, but a new mechanism for access and distribution. Additionally, the flagship instance of Bandwagon.fm will be taking 0% of any money musicians make.Premier Plans
To support development, Bandwagon’s flagship instance will be offering a $10 per month Premier plan that allows musicians to sell their music and offer their tracks at a higher bit-rate, among other features. To support the artist community, a number of Fediverse musicians will likely be gifted a lifetime Premier membership for free.Album and Track Purchases
Once this feature becomes available to musicians, they will be able to configure a Merchant account to dictate what items they want to include for purchase. This could cover individual tracks, EP’s, or entire albums. It’s also possible to configure Support Levels with monthly billing.Managing products and exclusive media in a merchant account.
When someone buys music through Bandwagon, their purchases get added to a profile. If you’re a native Bandwagon user, those live in your account. If you’re visiting from another platform, purchased items instead live in a special Guest Profile that can be connected to a Fediverse identity.
Special Access
Another new feature unique to Bandwagon is the concept of Circles. These are special, privileged collections of followers who can pay to access exclusive content: special album drops, rare tracks, secret shows, and private “behind the scenes” posts can all be accessed by premium followers.
What’s remarkable about this system is how things are tied together: this mechanism checks for payment, recognizes a Fediverse handle, and grants access on that basis. Previously, other systems needed to provision this kind of thing manually: you might have been able to pay for something through Stripe or PayPal, but there wasn’t always a way to account for a user’s Fediverse identity afterwards. Instead, that all had to be dealt with by hand.
Posts, Events, and Media can now be scoped to specific audiences with Circles
This also means that it’s possible to create multiple kinds of support levels, which could give a Bandwagon musician profile almost Patreon-like functionality. Different support tiers could receive access to different things, allowing rewards to stack with the level of donations. One level might receive private blog posts, whereas another might have access to a monthly track plus access to private blog posts.Alternate Payment Methods
For the time being, Bandwagon will support Stripe and PayPal when the feature launches. However, Ben has stated an interest in supporting many more payment processors, in the hopes of providing choice to artists and buyers:Bandwagon will build integrations with private companies (lots of them, actually) but we will never depend on any one specific company. Open APIs are best, but when those are unavailable, we’ll connect directly to Stripe, PayPal, or anyone who can deliver benefits for indie artists. But If I have to integrate with one merchant provider to accept payments, then I’ll integrate with two, or seven, or as many as we can to guarantee that the companies we work with cannot abuse their position with monopoly power.
The project has also stated having zero interest in implementing support for cryptocurrencies. However, given that Bandwagon is an open source project, it wouldn’t be that surprising to see third parties build in support for various crypto payments for their respective communities.
A demonstration of a check-out purchase through Stripe, which also supports Apple Pay.
Looking at the Big Picture
On the surface, these new features are big milestones for supporting the Fediverse music community. If we dig a little deeper, we’ll find that everything powering this new experience is part of the underlying Emissary platform. This is one more tool in Emissary’s arsenal for developers to build distinct services with donations, payments, and commerce in mind. Maybe in the future, we’ll see new kinds of Emissary apps that could act as replacements for DeviantArt, Nebula, or GameDev Market.There’s a reason this development is so important: the Fediverse today lacks any kind of commerce. While it’s possible to support people out-of-band through things like Patreon or OpenCollective, the reality is that the experience is pretty fragmented. Being able to support artists, musicians, game designers, open source developers, and instance admins are a necessity for growing a healthy Fediverse. If we could build standardized support for this kind of market commerce across different platforms, it could have a huge impact on the network’s ability to sustain itself.
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@P4ulin_Kbana if you are talking of a "platform" your are thinking thinks still form a central point of view.
Think more decentral here
Think of e.g. a lot of connected woocommerce instances and you get an idea of how a decentralized open source market "platform" could work.
decentralized server wide search and login has to work - that's it
@Sean Tilley have a Music Sales to the Fediverse website with #fraicamp and #hubzilla as proof of concept online since some time:
@Sean Tilley have a Music Sales to the Fediverse website with #fraicamp and #hubzilla as proof of concept online since some time:
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This pages are a demo site by allmendenetz.de for demonstrating how Faircamp - a static site generator for audio producers - and Hubzilla - a CMS for the Fediverse - can work together as one system to present music in a network like the Fediverse.By the decentralized Fediverse network millions of attendees have the option to get in contact with you, follow and commend your music releases and read all your news without depending on a single network provider.
With Faircamp it is quid easy to generate beautiful looking webpages on your pc for presenting your audio files in the internet.
With Hubzilla audio producer get the option to host this webpages easy on the web and in the Fediverse so that also a combination with your personal network news channel can be easy realized. Also they get the option to distributed files with a fine graded permissions system of Hubzilla. So not every thing has to be public and e.g. special downloads can be granted just to selected contacts and also connect to the Hubzilla shop app.
In an ideal case an audio producer would install such a system under an own domain but also the option to host several artists under one hub URL may be interesting for some.
>the Fediverse today lacks any kind of commerce
This is not true. I already told you about that when you published a promotional post about subclub (which didn't last), but now you're saying it again. Why?
sub.club Emerges to Offer Paid Fediverse Subscriptions
Historically speaking, the act of financially supporting creatives on the Fediverse has always been something of a pain point. The network lacks a meaningful payment layer, and most of the network’s iSean Tilley (We Distribute)
That's fine, my posts were not about any particular services. I am concerned with false statements in widely shared articles.
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One of Mitra users made a video about subs long time ago, I can't find it now. You're right, I should make a video too (and also a website etc etc).
But I need to finish nomadic identity first, as it is the main objective of the project.
universitanza spaccoficeranza, la mia mente non è immacolata
Ho realizzato che, tutte queste volte nelle ultime settimane in cui ho dovuto ahimè recarmi all’università di mattina (per ora poche; ed è sia un bene che un male, dati i miei assoluti motivi) per via degli esamini e le cose sconvenienti, succede qualcosa di molto buffo. Per l’ora che torno a casa, è quasi […]
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universitanza spaccoficeranza, la mia mente non è immacolata
Ho realizzato che, tutte queste volte nelle ultime settimane in cui ho dovuto ahimè recarmi all’università di mattina (per ora poche; ed è sia un bene che un male, dati i miei assoluti motivi) per via degli esamini e le cose sconvenienti, succede qualcosa di molto buffo. Per l’ora che torno a casa, è quasi come se non fossi mai dovuta uscire per niente di casa a confrontarmi con le palle; semplicemente, la differenza è che in quel caso, anziché dormire fino alle 11, ho dovuto svegliarmi prima e fare l’avanti e indietro… però poi il mio popò di rotting da sveglia prima di pranzo riesco a farmelo. E quindi, anche se certamente rompo lo slancio del sonno tosto, almeno non piango. 🤯Nonostante questo, però, devo confessare e riconfermare che le vibe non sono buone. Oh, io non pretendo che siano addirittura immacolate, ma quantomeno buone; manco quello mi è concesso. Non lo so, più passa il tempo e più andando all’università mi sento praticamente fuori posto. Vorrei a questo proposito magari dire “da non credere“, ma in realtà è abbastanza credibile… visto da un lato che OK, il periodo degli esami non è mai gioioso — pur ipoteticamente tralasciando le questioni di studio, perché l’atmosfera è comunque sempre definita da una strana mistura di ambienti praticamente fantasma ma un’aria pur sempre affollata e pesante; e ringraziamo il cielo che quantomeno d’estate c’è il bel tempo, che evita che l’umore cada addirittura fino a sotto i piedi — e dall’altro, più passa il tempo e meno riesco a fare e mantenere amicizie, quindi ops (ma non è colpa mia se sono finita all’unica facoltà di informatica al mondo senza frequentanti tecnoschizofrenici, e se io sono la persona instabilmente evanescente che sono). ☠️
Comunque, per quanto le vibe non erano e mai saranno immacolate, perlomeno il drip lo è stato stavolta… È capitato il nero super stile セーラームーン, che un pochino rende il prospetto di questo dei miei impegni meno pesante, in quanto mi ricorda che anche per me la vera sfida è da ritrovarsi in qualche misura nella magia e nel salvare il mondo ormai insalvabile… eccetto che no, perché quella sarebbe in realtà la mia missione divertente, mentre il resto che devo fare non può far altro che indurmi il sonnolino. Un outfit che sarebbe forse meglio usare all’orale questo eh, in quanto probabilmente capace di fare grande colpo col potere delle stelle, però pazienza, mi accontento averlo usarlo allo scritto più facile di tutto il corso. 👍
Smartphones now dominate global web traffic, latest data shows
Smartphones now dominate global web traffic, latest data shows
There have now been eight consecutive quarters of growth. Smartphones are ruling in terms of global web traffic, with a new report today revealing that 64%...Vlad (GSMArena)
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Arizona Democratic Party Moves to Stop Billionaires From Buying Primaries
Arizona Democratic Party Moves to Stop Billionaires From Buying Primaries
"Congratulations to the Arizona Democrats for getting the ball rolling on this enormously important issue," said U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders. "Other states should follow suit."jake-johnson (Common Dreams)
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"But both parties are the same", they say. "There's no point to voting or supporting Democrats because they will never try to change the status quo."
The key is to organize at the local level. Get into politics and either change your state's party from within, or failing that, challenge them from another party like the DSA, which has made strides across the US.
No Bitch. Dats A Whole New X. Wtf Is You Talkin About | Know Your Meme
No Bitch. Dats A Whole New X. Wtf Is You Talkin About also known as Twitter The Only Place Where X refers to a viral tweet by X (formerly Twitter) user @BrKnow Your Meme
‘It’s so painful what we see in Gaza,’ Guardiola says in emotional speech
‘It’s so painful’: Man City’s Guardiola speaks up on Israel’s war on Gaza
Pep Guardiola says the images out of Gaza ‘since the nightmare started’ have left him troubled and feeling ‘so scared’.Hafsa Adil (Al Jazeera)
New F-Droid Community
LemDro.id is the instance for all things Android within the threadiverse (Lemmy, Mbin, PieFed and now even NodeBB) and so it's only right that F-Droid finds itself a host on Lemdroid.
The amazing team over at Lemdroid were gracious enough to host the F-Droid community. This opens F-Droid discussions to users whose home instance block ML and more users having easier access to content is never a bad thing.
So if you'd like to subscribe to a community dedicated to open source apps via a Google Play Store alternative, please check out !fdroid@lemdro.id
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Hegseth Lays Out a Case for Troop Deployments in 'Any Jurisdiction in the Country'
Hegseth Lays Out a Case for Troop Deployments in 'Any Jurisdiction in the Country'
"The standoff on the streets of Los Angeles," warned critics, "shows how truly eager Trump and his administration are to turn America's vast warmaking powers inward on the president's domestic foes."jake-johnson (Common Dreams)
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Israel says it is keeping Rima Hassan because hostage taking is only wrong when Hamas does it
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Israel has already proven it’s the good guy by spraying the Madleen with an unknown chemical, ramming the vessel, boarding it and making the crew throw their mobile phones overboard.Israeli commandos were so nice during the encounter that they agreed not to kill anyone as long as they showed total obedience. In fact, the commandos showed such restraint that they didn’t even strip anyone naked. Well, not that I know of…
Israel was temporarily nice to the crew of the Madleen so it could get a propaganda picture and then it took them ashore where it tried to make them watch footage of October 7. When the crew refused, it demanded they sign deportation papers accepting they had illegally entered Israel, even though they were in international waters and it was Israel who took them to Israel!
I understand some of the Madleen crew signed the deportation papers and were sent on their way, but disgracefully, Rima Hassan refused to be repatriated. Apparently, she wouldn’t confess to something she hadn’t done because she has “principles”. Israel says it therefore has no choice but to keep her as a hostage, I mean an, um, prisoner.
Obviously, prisoner is the only accurate word to describe someone who is being illegally detained, having committed no crime. Hassan can’t be a hostage because she smiled defiantly and ate a sandwich and no hostage would ever eat a sandwich. It disrespects all those who were captured on October 7 to call Hassan a hostage, just because she is being held against her will after being abducted by armed men.
I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but Hassan is Palestinian and it’s fine to treat Palestinians this way. It’s what Israel has always done x
Israel says it is keeping Rima Hassan because hostage taking is only wrong when Hamas does it
Israel has already proven it’s the good guy by spraying the Madleen with an unknown chemical, ramming the vessel, boarding it and making the crew throw their mobile phones overboard.Israeli commandos were so nice during the encounter that they agreed not to kill anyone as long as they showed total obedience. In fact, the commandos showed such restraint that they didn’t even strip anyone naked. Well, not that I know of…
Israel was temporarily nice to the crew of the Madleen so it could get a propaganda picture and then it took them ashore where it tried to make them watch footage of October 7. When the crew refused, it demanded they sign deportation papers accepting they had illegally entered Israel, even though they were in international waters and it was Israel who took them to Israel!
I understand some of the Madleen crew signed the deportation papers and were sent on their way, but disgracefully, Rima Hassan refused to be repatriated. Apparently, she wouldn’t confess to something she hadn’t done because she has “principles”. Israel says it therefore has no choice but to keep her as a hostage, I mean an, um, prisoner.
Obviously, prisoner is the only accurate word to describe someone who is being illegally detained, having committed no crime. Hassan can’t be a hostage because she smiled defiantly and ate a sandwich and no hostage would ever eat a sandwich. It disrespects all those who were captured on October 7 to call Hassan a hostage, just because she is being held against her will after being abducted by armed men.
I’m not sure if you’re aware of this, but Hassan is Palestinian and it’s fine to treat Palestinians this way. It’s what Israel has always done x
Israel says it is keeping Rima Hassan because hostage taking is only wrong when Hamas does it
She refused to sign a false confession...Laura (Normal Island News)
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Verdict: Guilty of being Palestinian
Sentence: Thrown back into the Gaza concentration camp to be bombed
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How about keeping to the point?
Are hostages and prisoners the same, in your mind?
Thunberg said Israel had committed "an illegal act by kidnapping us on international waters and against our will, bringing us to Israel, keeping us in the bottom of the boat, not letting us getting out and so on".
Rima Hassan was kidnapped by Israel and now she’s being held for a crime that they forced her to commit.
This is literally the same logic as when the schoolyard bully grabs your hand, hits your face with it, and tells you to stop hitting yourself.
Shows Israel's mental maturity.
Old man believes whatever he sees on cable TV
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He's telling people to keep the protests peaceful. He's literally speaking from 1st hand experience about what works to achieve your goals.
How exactly does that play into Trump's narrative?
This isn't at all the gotcha this person thinks it is.
Martin Luther King Jr. called for nonviolent resistance. The people resisted nonviolently, including Bernie Sanders. The media lied and called them violent, but MLK Jr. continued to call for nonviolent resistance in the face of that, and it worked.
Here, Bernie Sanders is doing the exact same thing. He's not suggesting that the protestors are violent any more than Dr. King was, as satirized by the propaganda cartoon. He's just doing the exact same thing - call for nonviolent resistance. No more, no less.
I know nuance is dead, but it is just insane to think this is a "gotcha." This person is the one "leaning into the hysteria" by assuming a call for action by itself is actually a condemnation of the protests.
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Is he saying they currently are violent?
You're so happy to imply one side but not imply the other. That's a you problem.
Why would the other side need to be implied?
You should not swear at people. It does not help in discussions.
Is he saying they currently are violent?You’re so happy to imply one side but not imply the other. That’s a you problem.
Where is the swearing?
I didn't say he was swearing, why would you think that?
I simply advised him and said that swearing is not good in conversations because it does not help his cause.
Trump's deployment of the National Guard and Marines in California is not about protests. It is not about ICE. It is not about immigration. It's about [...] his effort to move this country toward Authoritarianism. [...] Trump's argument for deployment of the troops is absurd and laughable. Does anyone really believe that we are in the midst of a "foreign invasion" or a "rebellion" against the United States?
- Bernie Sanders
It's amazing how much time some people spend worrying about the exact wording used by the small handful of influential people who seem to agree with them on an issue.
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her own channel report it as her “being caught in the crossfire
They clearly state she was specifically targetted.
Just seconds after she wrapped up a live cross to Australia, one of the officers turned his gun towards Tomasi and fired at her from close range.
Bernie didn't call anyone violent, anymore than Dr. King did when he called for nonviolent resistance. It's a call to action, not a condemnation of it.
9News US Correspondent Lauren Tomasi 'sore, but okay' after being shot by rubber bullet in LA protests
A police officer was seen aiming his gun and firing at 9News' Lauren Tomasi as she reported from the front line.Sean Thompson (9News)
9News US Correspondent Lauren Tomasi 'sore, but okay' after being shot by rubber bullet in LA protests.
This is the title of the article you linked. She wasn't shot by a rubber bullet. We saw that she was deliberately targeted and shot with a rubber bullet by a police officer while reporting on the protests, an action both illegal and against LAPD policy. It's not a mistake or a coincidence the title is worded in a way to minimize this incident and the involvement of the police, it's propaganda. And when Bernie implies these protests are violent, which they are not, he gives credibility to this propaganda when he should be unequivocally condemning police violence.
She wasn’t shot by a rubber bullet. We saw that she was deliberately targeted and shot with a rubber bullet by a police officer
Literally no sane person would ever imagine the headline means a random protestor fired a rubber bullet at her. Everyone knows it was a police officer. The article specifically describes it as a police officer targetting her in particular. Police officers are generally the only people armed with rubber bullets at protests. Of all the mountains of propaganda that are actively flying, this is very much a mole hill.
Bernie called for nonviolent resistance. He did not imply anyone was violent by doing so. Martin Luther King Jr. called for nonviolent resistance. He did not imply anyone was violent by doing so.
Just seconds after she wrapped up a live cross to Australia, one of the officers turned his gun towards Tomasi and fired at her from close range."US authorities shooting an Australian journalist is simply shocking," Hanson-Young said.
"It is completely unacceptable and must be called out."
A "rubber bullet" is a glaringly obvious clue to the perpetrator, and the article actively assigns blame and responsibility.
This is irrelevant. The brains of people only register what they see in the headline.
The perpetrator is the cop.
Both people are right in a way here.
It's the masses joining non-violent protests that gets shit done. They can't ignore it when it gets big enough. Violence makes it that much harder to hold those safely.
The mainstream media and the right wing propaganda machine will amplify any small amount of violence to try to tarnish the whole movement.
The problem is that the protests are already extremely peaceful... Until the police show up and start blasting.
The media instead will take the 3 pictures of the Waymo on fire and plaster it on the front page everywhere to pretend the protests are extremely violent riots and give a pretense to send in the police which starts blasting.
Don't tell anyone to remember their umbrella unless it's absolutely pouring or you'll give into the propaganda that water is falling from the sky.
The right-wing thinks we're giving rioters a pass and, not that we need to satisfy their demands, don't give them a pass. You can denounce setting fires and shooting reporters in the leg in one breath you know.
"Guys it is not raining today. But you should not forget to bring your umbrella if it rains."
Totally normal statement.
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Have people understand that being a progressive does not mean blindly following Bernie Sanders.
Because past Bernie stood for what present Bernie admonishes.
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I won't pretend to know much about Bernie's history, but I do have a couple of thoughts with which you may or may not agree.
- We should never blindly follow any politician.
- Politicians should be expected to change/evolve. It's probably a good idea to consider the delta to understand each politician's trajectory.
Out of curiosity, do you prefer past or present Bernie?
Alright this got me curious, so I researched the matter further. I do believe you are wrong here.
From what I can gather, Bernie was arrested for being chained together with others to protest the installation of Willis Wagons. This was nonviolent. When the police arrested him, he kicked, screamed, and resisted the entire way.
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You don’t really know who Bernie Sanders was in the 1960s. Why it mattered then and why it matters in 2019.
I reject this idea that who Bernie Sanders was in the 1960s is irrelevant. Who you are and what you do, what you fought for, and who and what you fought against, is always relevant. Twenty and thirty…Shaun King (Medium)
No, Bernie Sanders was arrested for violently rioting. At least according to the newspapers Bernie Sanders reads these days.
You know what you could also try? Literally read the images Hasan posted.
If you're not interested in civil discourse, then we can end this discussion now.
I researched his arrest to learn what wasn't said in the images. Are you suggesting that resisting arrest is equivalent to violent rioting?
Step 1. Do not address the argument made by Hasan.
Step 2. Hurr Durrr Bernie good? Israel no genocide Netanyahu bad?! Israel has the right to defend itself!!
- I don't respect him, or his takes.
- Not a fan of Bernie, either. Definitely not a fan of Isreal. I'm trying to think of any political commentators or politicians or activists I don't dislike, and all I have are AOC and Gretchen Whitmer. And I think Greta.
Bonus opinion, I don't think there should be any violence from the protesters. Regardless of what the police or national guard do. Arrests, tear gas, rubber bullets, just take it. Don't throw things, don't loot, no masks, just take it. A protest is serious business, and I think you should be willing to accept any consequences from it if you really support the cause you're fighting for, whether it is imprisonment, injury, or death. If you aren't, don't protest. Everybody remembers MLK being arrested. Everybody remembers Tank Man from Tiananmen Square. Everybody remembers Rosa Parks. Hopefully, everybody remembers Rachel Corrie. Their acts were so impactful because of the stark contrast between their peaceful non-violence and the response to them.
If there is any property damage done, let it be by the cops. Deep down, I believe most people are materialistic and somewhat selfish. If their car gets torched during a protest by protesters, they're probably going to get pissed at the protesters! You want the support of the masses. Of businesses. If you're a shop owner, and your windows get blown out by teargas and rubber bullets, you're probably going to be way more pissed at the cops than the polite people just gathered in the street.
From the outside, to the centrists and the old people who still watch the news, a quiet (but huge) group of people getting pelted with tear gas and rubber bullets is so much more sympathetic than (hypothetically) some person in a mask chucking rocks at the police, waving a foreign flag. Again, sympathetic to people less left leaning. In my opinion.
Conversely, if someone thinks violence is the answer, I don't think that's a protest. That's a fight. A revolution. And that energy should be directed, planned. Not just riot style destruction.
That's all I've got, peace.
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Hasan is the worst possible messenger for all of this, totally agree with the guy you are responding to. This dude is a rich frat boy who ran a show where his sign of ended with "or I'll fuck you dog".
He's a left wing grifter like Tim pool is a right-wing grifter. Honestly the only reason we're here is because he's a nepotism baby, he's a literal industry plant of Cenk of TYT.
Eventually his rich insulated ass will catch a charge, or someone will come forward with how terrible he is in private, and the world will move on to the next generationally wealthy person with the right opinions. Fuck Hasan, the messenger is so flawed to make people who support him look dumb to anyone who sees clips of him saying America deserves 9/11.
Lmao yeah that's me, right wing troll! Pointing out that the dude who has put on many hats at trying to be famous, including a man-show but with a single douche bag instead of two douche bags. He even almost quit lefty posting before he actually got a large following on twitch.
The dude is a rich-daddy grifter who is looking for a narcissistic bump no matter what he has to say. His gold-brick stacking ass isn't your friend, you're his prey, just like Tim pool fans. Even his lefty opinions are suss AF. What's his favorite flag?
Him tweeting at a person with actual gravitas is funny, all ya'll are gonna be disappointed by this guy sometime soon, too many eyes now.
Really, is that actually an opinion you have? You are so encased in this steamer bubble you think he's the ONLY mainstream influencer to take a stand against Isreal.
You are so in this weird world of twitch drama I must be part of it since i don't like this grifting asshole. The only thing I know about destiny are his terrible debates and the fact that he leaked a bunch of nudes of people he was fucking. your entire world is bookended by assholes.
you think he’s the ONLY mainstream influencer to take a stand against Isreal.
Yes. When it was unpopular that is. Now that 'one day everyone will have always been against this' is approaching the actual grifters come crawling over.
You keep mentioning the word 'grift' I don't think you understand what it means.
Palestine is the ultimate anti-grifter test and Hasan has passed it with flying colors by never endorsing the Democrats if they didn't compromise to Palestine despite all the turbolibs screaming at him
Plenty of mainstream influencers have kept the same opinion of Palestine, maybe you mean no one has made a career on it like Hasan. Like the he knows where his money and support is coming from, and he knows when it started. So yeah, he's definitely become the must famous and made the must money exploiting Palestine.
And no, I'm definitely using it right in my opinion, you just don't agree Palestine is his grift.
I don't think he believes any of it, from his incredibly shakey support of boycotts, to his stance on houthis, it's all performative. I don't mind if you don't agree with me, but Hasan would threaten to break into your house and fuck your dog if you didn't agree with him. That's an actual thing he said over and over. He's a fucking clown.
No Signifier didnt dare. like Kendrick Lamar.
Name a big influencer then. Link their stuff of them standing up from the start of the genocide.
I'm so glad somebody agrees. That's exactly what he is, and why I cannot respect him or his opinions. He is a self-proclaimed propagandist.
And you were called a right-wing troll. Is it hard to believe there are people on the left that don't like Hasan? I guess you didn't specify if you are or not, but I can at least speak certainly about myself. That other person said I should listen to what Hasan has to say, and it just really reminded me of what my mom would say about Rush Limbaugh. It's the exact same thing, just a different flavor of bullshit.
National Guard, Marine deployment in Los Angeles costs $134 million: Pentagon
Well good thing the U.S. economy is rock solid at the moment, and we have excess money to burn.
Otherwise we might start seeing bipartisan anger at a president and administration who have spent $134 million dollars to force a state government to do what the federal government says, while undoing previous federal orders regarding civil rights bc they were an unjust burden to states and a waste of the American tax payer dollar.
National Guard, Marine deployment in Los Angeles costs $134 million: Pentagon
Pentagon officials said the cost of deploying thousands of National Guard troops and Marines to Los Angeles is $134 million., USA TODAY (USA TODAY)
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Where you been?
This is how the military works. How you think they can set a trillion dollars on fire every year just to maintain parity with Russia and China? By being WILDLY overcharged for fuckin' everything that's how. The US Military is the worlds biggest money laundering operation.
Back in 80's an older relative in the military was going to be charged $400 for a missing screwdriver unless he found it. So he went down to a local hardware store and found the screwdriver for $4.
I'm sure the numbers were embellished, but I don't imagine by much.
So DOGE's cuts saved just ~~over $150 million~~ (apparently I can't read), and we've already burned through most of those saving mobilizing the national guard to tear gas people foolish enough to claim Trump isn't king? Fantastic. I am so tired of all this "winning."
Edit: I misread some stuff but the essence of the absurdity I am directing my anger at remains the same. Fuck fascism.
3 Lessons From International Protests Amid the L.A. Unrest
- Crackdowns shape optics, and optics shape uprisings.
- Heavy-handed responses can lead to more violent protests.
- Crackdowns can be steppingstones to wider power grabs.
3 Lessons From International Protests Amid the L.A. Unrest
Experts who study protest movements say the scenes unfolding in California broadly follow a script that has played out many times in other countries — sometimes with deadly consequences.Pranav Baskar (The New York Times)
Packaging sostenibile, moda insostenibile: un sistema corotto in una scatola verde
Il packaging sostenibile è la nuova frontiera per i brand di lusso. Un recente report di Bain & Company in collaborazione con Fedrigoni evidenzia come la sostenibilità stia diventando un vero vantaggio competitivo nel packaging di alta gamma.
I numeri sembrano promettenti:
• +30% di packaging sostenibile entro 3 anni
• Materiali avanzati a base carta
• Riduzione volumi imballaggi
La verità scomoda
Il packaging è solo il 5% dell'impatto ambientale del fashion (Ellen MacArthur).
La vera domanda è: queste aziende sono pronte ad affrontare l’elefante nella stanza? Nel caso qualcuno non l’avesse ancora notato, l’elefante è la sovrapproduzione.
La scatola sarà pure verde — ma il contenuto resta il vero problema.
Tu cosa ne pensi?
È greenwashing o vedi speranze concrete?
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Sustainable packaging, unsustainable fashion. Bain & Company’s report exposes fashion’s latest eco-effort—does it go far enough?suite123
Most used encrypted messenger besides Signal, Whatsapp, iMessage, and RCS?
What encrypted messenger do you use most that isn't Zucking Meta's Whatsapp and Signal?
Edit Also, besides iMessage and RCS. Sorry thanks
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Me? XMPP.
Most used? Depends in what circles. Telegram is popular in some. SimpleX and Session in others. XMPP in free software circles. Matrix in others.
Matrix is the only one I actually use other than the rest.
There is also XMPP, SimpleX, Threema, Briar, cwtch, Tox, and Delta Chat.
I use Conversations, a feature rich XMPP client for select stuff.
PSA Help others escape WhatsApp using Watomatic auto reply (and how to write it)
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🤖 Automated Reply 💬 I reply faster on example.org ⁉️ WhatsApp is anti-libre software. We do NOT control it. It withholds a libre software license text file, like GPL.
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Deleting the only way to reach someone online breaks your influence.example.org
A link and only one link, so (1) they see it's an app, not some random word or typo, (2) they can download it without searching, and (3) they don't have multiple choice–they don't need to do any thinking or research. Remove everything stopping them.anti-libre software.
Never say privacy, they've heard it all before (from you, no doubt). Say something different.We do NOT control it.
Make it simple and direct. Think of the most retarded person you know and break it down in a way they would understand. Think about every angle it could be misunderstood.It withholds
Libre software is normal, default. Anti-libre software is cringe, weird, dangerous. Act like it. Also, humans care less about getting and more about losing stuff.libre software license text file
Show them what to check for, for themselves, easily, obvious. Later, show them how to spread these ideas. Then, show them how to show others how to spread these ideas, make more of you.GPL
A keyword for them to web search for more, with better results than more complex terms like AGPL or misleading terms like 'open source'.Don't waste a word.
Lastly, make yourself someone everyone wants to talk to.
I have tried them all, I just use XMPP through Cheogram (mobile) and Movim (desktop in browser) now. I have had success getting my contacts to switch since I never bugged them about any other messengers before. Plus I am willing to follow through with ultimatums of abandonment and they are well aware of that.
If you have any actually normal friends (no offense) you're going to have to use the regular phone network. XMPP has the best phone network gateway, I've bought like five Soprani.ca numbers. No it doesn't encrypt the regular phone network.
Delta/Arcane Chat is cool but due to everyone basically being an admin-level user in the chat, I strictly use it as a home base for real homies. I mainly use it to run one gajillion bots, check my emails, run Mastodon/Misskey fork accounts in one location, and send stuff/WebXDC apps to myself.
You can't seriously replace the social media monopolies or the phone network yet. I even run some Telegrams (don't make fun of me) and control them with the Delta Chat bot. People just need to get used to "backing up" their social graph with secure options, and not just saying whatever pops into their head outside them
I may not know much about software development & programming itself however, I feel like I did my part here.
+1 for Linux folks.
Combat Windows “Recall” Feature With DRM · Issue #2380 · element-hq/element-desktop
Your use case What would you like to do? Given the privacy & security concerns regarding the Windows Recall feature it may be in Elements best interest to mark Element as a DRM enabled application ...GitHub
Reflections: The ecosystem is moving
At Open Whisper Systems, we’ve been developing open source “consumer-facing” software for the past four years. We want to share some of the things we’ve learned while doing it. As a software developer, I envy writers, musicians, and filmmakers.Signal Messenger
- Requires a phone number
- Depends on Big Tech's servers
- Got founded by the US government
- Seems to absolutely love Big Tech because they hide the APK download page quite well[1]
- It's centralized
I use my own Snikket server to communicate with people using OMEMO (Signal Protocol). No phone number requirements, no centralized server, no Big Tech, just you and the people you write with, with your privacy fully intact. Just like in the good old days (as it should be to this days, greedy f*****s).
[1]: signal.org/download > Android redirects you to Google Play Store. signal.org/download/android > Download for Android redirects you to Google Play Store. signal.org/install redirects you to Google Play Store. You'll search "forever" to find the "download APK file" link until you give up and using a search engine: "signal apk".
Not until then you'll find signal.org/android/apk. And when you visit that page, a link to Google Play Store is listed on top, and below it, in the "danger zone", you'll find the APK download button. Yes, exactly, the Signal team wants you to be on the "safe zone" by downloading the app through Google Play Store.
"focus on privacy" my ass. Close to forcing someone to use Big Tech shitty stuff is NOT focus on privacy.
Sorry, rant is over. Now breakfast time.
how's the chat history with snikket? I had issues with prosody, namely multiple devices coming and going and maintaining the same chat history between all of them, as well when there's a disconnect (device gone forever, new device connects)
just skimmed their confusing web site, it's free for selfhosting, right?
The chat history is there until you change client/device and got a new set of keys. New encryption keys can't decrypt messages and files sent with a previous keys.
Snikket is FOSS, so yes, it's free when self-hosting 😀
If you login to your account on your Snikket server on all the devices you have at home, and you remain logged in for all the time you use your Snikket server, everything will be synced over all these devices.
Let me explain it further. You login to your Snikket server on 3 devices (desktop, laptop, and smartphone) and you use only these 3 with no re-installing the operating system and not factory resetting the smartphone, you will keep getting the history on these 3 devices - synced.
But you decide to try out a new XMPP client, let say monocles chat. Since that client is new for your account, that client will get its own encryption key. Because of this, monocles chat can not read anything you and the contacts you have communicated with. This also applies when you re-installing the OS or do a factory reset.
End-to-end encryption 101.
Let say this would not be the case and monocles chat do see the history of all of your chats, that data must remain on the server and can be decrypted by the new client with maybe a master encryption key of some sort. This is not end-to-end encryption 101. That would be a security breach.
However, letting you export the chat history from the other clients and importing the chat history to monocles chat, that would be much better. Because then it is you who decides if you want to keep the chat history or not. You will be in control over your own data. This is a feature I miss in XMPP clients.
appreciate the effort, but kinda went overboard with the deets 😀 I run several prosody XMPP servers so I'm familiar with the underlying tech. what you describe should be feasible with it as well, but there are constant issues with devices not being able to access history, so I was wondering if things were better on your end.
so, based on this, I'll spin up a snikker docker and try it out for a coupla weeks, see what's what. many thanks.
edit: turns out this snikket thing is conversations (standard XMPP client) and prosody (XMPP server) with different branding.
XMPP is the universal standard when it comes to chat servers. WhatsApp is using it, just to name 1 example.
Conversations is a client for XMPP servers.
aside from the dogshit UX and the uber reliance on Evilcorp's infra, having more than two devices (I know, shocker in this day and age!), the arduous migration process to a new device, the limited chat history (I think it's 40ish days) and many more.
same way Telegram adamantly refuses to implement E2EE, and not only that, it actively prevents 3rd party devs (a number of clients are FOSS) from implementing it on their own.
both PJ Harvey and durov respond the same way when asked about any of them things - smokescreens, FUD, whataboutisms, etc.
any of them things woulda been acceptable in 2015, here's a PoC looking for funding, limited devs and resources; remember TextSecure and RedPhone? nowadays, they are nothing short of malicious.
Concersations.im. It's my backup because it supports OMEMO and OpenPGP.
Besides that, Element (Matrix). I use it for its public rooms.
I see how the website gives that impression, which I assume is an attempt to push non-technical users toward an install method that does not lead to support requests and helps fund the project.
The site also mentions that you can build it from source for free, so it's not technically claiming that it's only available from the Play store. If you follow that link, you'll see that availability on F-Droid is prominently displayed on the README.
You are Already On "The List"
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
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Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot
cross-posted from: szmer.info/post/7875329
Investigation by investigative journalism outlet IStories (EN version by OCCRP) shows that Telegram uses a single, FSB-linked company as their infrastructure provider globally.Telegram's MTProto protocol also requires a cleartext identifier to be prepended to all client-server messages.
Combined, these two choices by Telegram make it into a surveillance tool.
I am quoted in the IStories story. I also did packet captures, and I dive into the nitty-gritty technical details on my blog.
Packet captures and MTProto deobfuscation library I wrote linked therein so that others can retrace my steps and check my work.
Telegram is indistinguishable from an FSB honeypot
Investigation by investigative journalism outlet IStories (EN version by OCCRP) shows that Telegram uses a single, FSB-linked company as their infrastructure provider globally.Telegram's MTProto protocol also requires a cleartext identifier to be prepended to all client-server messages.
Combined, these two choices by Telegram make it into a surveillance tool.
I am quoted in the IStories story. I also did packet captures, and I dive into the nitty-gritty technical details on my blog.
Packet captures and MTProto deobfuscation library I wrote linked therein so that others can retrace my steps and check my work.
Как «Телеграм» связан с ФСБ
За инфраструктуру мессенджера отвечают те, кто обслуживает секретные комплексы российских спецслужб, используемые для слежки за гражданамиistories.media
NOAM OFF 2025: Il 12 e 13 giugno due Giorni di Cinema e Talk alla Biblioteca Comunale Manfrediana di Faenza (Ra)
Faenza si prepara ad accogliere l'edizione 2025 di NOAM OFF, lo spin-off primaverile del NOAM Faenza Film Festival, dedicato al cinema nordamericano. L'evento si terrà giovedì 12 e venerdì 13 giugno nella suggestiva cornice della Biblioteca Comunale Manfrediana, trasformata per l'occasione in un punto di incontro per appassionati di cinema e cultura.
Il tema di questa edizione, "Sub Astra. Cinema sotto le stelle", celebra l'incanto delle arene estive e il fascino delle proiezioni all'aperto. L'inaugurazione, giovedì 12 giugno alle 18:30, darà spazio all'area Bar & Food, permettendo ai partecipanti di godersi un aperitivo tra le mura storiche della biblioteca. Alle 20:00 si aprirà il primo NOAM Talk con Faso, bassista degli Elio e Le Storie Tese e commentatore di baseball per DAZN. Con il suo stile ironico, Faso approfondirà il mondo del baseball insieme al musicista e giocatore Luca Pasotti. A seguire, alle 21:15, la proiezione in anteprima assoluta del film "Eephus" del regista statunitense Carson Lund, introdotto dal giornalista Giulio Sangiorgio, direttore della rivista FilmTv.
La seconda serata, venerdì 13 giugno, prenderà il via ancora una volta alle 18:30 con l'apertura dell'area Bar & Food. Alle 20:00 sarà il turno del secondo NOAM Talk con Marco Manetti, della celebre coppia di registi Manetti Bros, che discuterà di cinema fuori dagli schemi insieme al moderatore Francesco Bentini. Alle 21:15 sarà proiettato "Dìdi", film del regista taiwanese-americano Sean Wang, introdotto dalla content creator Juliet Vampire. La serata si concluderà con il NOAM Party, un dj set che animerà la Biblioteca Comunale, sottolineando il valore storico e culturale del luogo.
NOAM OFF è finanziato nell'ambito del progetto GECO-FA e patrocinato dall’Unione della Romagna Faentina. Gli organizzatori, Andrea Valmori e Gian Marco Magnani, sottolineano come l'iniziativa voglia esplorare nuove modalità di fruizione del cinema e valorizzare la Biblioteca Comunale Manfrediana come spazio culturale attivo e partecipato.
NOAM OFF 2025: Il 12 e 13 giugno due Giorni di Cinema e Talk alla Biblioteca Comunale Manfrediana di Faenza (Ra) - ViaggieMiraggi
Faenza si prepara ad accogliere l’edizione 2025 di NOAM OFF, lo spin-off primaverile del NOAM Faenza Film Festival, dedicato al cinema nordamericano.Redazione (ViaggieMiraggi)
“Samsara – Il ciclo delle idee” a Carmagnola (To) dal 20 al 22 giugno 2025
Il programma di “Samsara – Il ciclo delle idee” vuole valorizzare le eccellenze del Piemonte che sono prima di tutto eccellenze al servizio della nostra nazione.
Tra passato, presente e futuro. Storie di grandi piemontesi, da Augusto Del Noce fino ad Amedeo Guillet passando per Adriano Olivetti e Annibale Radicati di Cocconato. E grandi ospiti che oggi rappresentano il Piemonte: dalla fondazione Garuzzo, al monastero di Bose, il circolo dei lettori di Torino, il politecnico, il CCR la Venaria Reale e non solo.
È un cammino che si pone come strumento di riscatto sociale e di partecipazione civica, rappresentato proprio dal confronto e dalla collaborazione intergenerazionale. Attraverso il sapere, la cultura e la riflessione da venerdì 20 a domenica 22 giugno 2025 a Carmagnola (TO) su iniziativa del Comune, con il sostegno dell’Assessorato alle politiche sociali della Regione Piemonte e con la direzione artistica del giornalista Sebastiano Caputo, il progetto raggiungerà il suo apice, dopo mesi di attività sul territorio che hanno visto il coinvolgimento di associazioni, enti del terzo settore e giovani.
Diversi saranno gli ospiti che rappresentano le istituzioni artistiche, sociali, spirituali, industriali e culturali del territorio.
"Samsara - Il ciclo delle idee" a Carmagnola (To) dal 20 al 22 giugno 2025 - ViaggieMiraggi
“Samsara – Il ciclo delle idee”: a Carmagnola la cultura diventa motore di riscatto sociale Dal 20 al 22 giugno 2025 la città piemontese ospita una rassegna culturale che unisce memoria, innovazione e partecipazione civica. Dal 20 al 22 giugno...Redazione (ViaggieMiraggi)
Report: Trump Administration Ignored Advice When Installing Starlink at the White House
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People who profit from Climate change are against rules to slow down climate change
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Do Not, Under Any Circumstances, Try to Woo Back Elon Musk
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With some prominent Democrats and liberal pundits arguing for the party to try to win Elon Musk back to its side, you have to ask: Is American politics simply a matter of who can best kiss the ass of narcissistic reactionary billionaires?
Do Not, Under Any Circumstances, Try to Woo Back Elon Musk
With some prominent Democrats and liberal pundits arguing for the party to try to win Elon Musk back to its side, you have to ask: Is American politics simply a matter of who can best kiss the ass of narcissistic reactionary billionaires?
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This illustrates the issue of having only 2 political parties. You used to have left and right. Then the right extended all the way to batshit crazy nazi while losing touch with the centre-right, and it collapsed to keep only t̂he nazis. Meanwhile the "left" extended to centre then all the way to the economic right.
Now you have a nazi party and an everything else party, and people ask the last to "get their shit together", as if socialists would sort out their differences with neo-liberals and conservatives over a quick diner and build a common ground plan.
That just can't work.
It also accentuates the need for ranked choice voting or something similar. You need to give a people a way to say what they want to say with nuance and power. If everyone says they wish they could vote for someone else but need to vote strategically then parties never need to be good and can just thump on about defeating the evil party.
Yes, I’m from Canada and vote NDP, how did you know?
To bad. Money talks. Huge advantage. Take what we can get. It's immoral to make terrible strategic choices when the consequences of losing is letting Nazi 2.0 take power.
Just make the deal where he has to fund a small Navy to send aid to Palestine.
let's work with the Hitler salute guy who explicitly donated a bunch of money to buy access and spent months using that access to cripple the government for decades to come.
So the solution to defeat Nazi 2.0 is to cater to Nazi 2.1?
That's crazy I didn't know that. But I think of funding. I think of funding grifters like heritage foundation, TPUSA, people's careers like Jordan Peterson, Joe Rogan, Tim Pool whoever amplifies.
There's not much on the left. Unless it's a former Republican who is now anti Trump.
useful tool
Why? Based on what, exactly?
The guy is an absolute drug addicted idiot with no skills or empathy anywhere. He got lucky multiple times leading him to where he is today, but he's always been a lying sack of shit who only is a multi billionaire because of luck and a loooooot of lying.
What, exactly, would make that a useful tool for anything?
The whole bifurcated party thing cuts both ways though. The vast majority of the even slightly progressive people are sick and tired of the Democrats handholding with the Republicans only narrowly being the least appetizing item on the menu. There's nobody standing for the people. Everybody's standing for the oligarchs. I'm not saying I would vote Republican ever, But we've got to be able to do something relatively better than whatever this is we're doing now.
The Republicans would split on fiscal versus "morals". Immorally progressive fiscally conservative party to rapillase the publicans might draw a number of the wealthy Democrats with it.
There are other countries out there that do a better job. And it's quite clear now that our Constitution does not have the teeth It was designed to have.
Made me think of Woo Back Wednesday
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From the DNC’s perspective: yes, yes it is.
It would be far better for the Pelosis, Fettermans and Newsoms to have photo-ops with a 8647-cap-wearing Musk and talk about tax cuts and deregulation and shiny crypto AI sci-fi futures, and to keep rolling in cash from billionaires expecting to see their good fortune continue, than to be forced to heed the views of the AOCs and alienate their sponsors. This way, at least the gravy train keeps rolling.
Is American politics simply a matter of who can best kiss the ass of narcissistic reactionary billionaires?
Always has been.
Radeon Software For Linux Dropping AMD's Proprietary OpenGL/Vulkan Drivers
Radeon Software For Linux Dropping AMD's Proprietary OpenGL/Vulkan Drivers
With how well the open-source and upstream AMD Radeon Linux graphics driver stack is these days between the mainline Linux kernel and Mesa, the Radeon Software for Linux packaged driver releases are not usually notable these days on Phoronix..www.phoronix.com
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Spyware maker cuts ties with Italy after government refused audit into hack of journalist’s phone
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In a shocking first, Paragon has cut off ties with the Italian government after a special government committee essentially investigated themselves and concluded that no government spyware was used in the hacking of an Italian journalist. This comes after the same body refused to allow the spyware company to independently verify this conclusion.
The spyware manufacturer Paragon said Monday that it has ended its contract with Italy because a special government committee investigating alleged abuses there declined to let the company independently verify that Italian authorities did not hack into the phone of a well-known journalist."The company offered both the Italian government and parliament a way to determine whether its system had been used against the journalist," Paragon said in a statement issued to the Israeli publication Haaretz. Because Italian authorities “chose not to proceed with this solution, Paragon terminated its contracts in Italy,” the company said.
Last Wednesday, the Parliamentary Committee for the Security of the Republic (COPASIR) approved its report, which acknowledged that Italian foreign and domestic intelligence services used Paragon’s spyware product, Graphite, to target phones belonging to civil society activists.
The committee found no evidence the surveillance technology was used against journalist Francesco Cancellato, the report said. Cancellato — known for an investigative report documenting ties between Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni and young Italian fascists — is among about 90 WhatsApp users who Meta notified about spyware targeting in January.
COPASIR said it searched the intelligence agencies’ databases for Cancellato’s number and did not find it. The report also said there is no evidence that Italian officials asked for permission to spy on Cancellato.
A spyware manufacturer has never before publicly acknowledged terminating a contract with a government client due to abuse.
Spyware maker cuts ties with Italy after government refused audit into hack of journalist’s phone
Israel-based spyware maker Paragon and Italy's government had a falling out over the company's offer to help investigate what happened on journalist Francesco Cancellato's phone.Suzanne Smalley (The Record)
Pavel Durov (CEO of Telegram) about the use of "the Gag order" in U.S against social media privacy
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But what Durov revealed next pulled the lens even wider. What happened in France, he said, is part of a larger pattern: governments exploiting legal systems to weaken privacy protections—and it’s even more extreme in the United States.Nitter
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Telegram, the FSB, and the Man in the Middle
The technical infrastructure that underpins Telegram is controlled by a man whose companies have collaborated with Russian intelligence services.OCCRP
If liberals refuse to say water is wet, eventually the Nazis will be trotting it out like they came up with it. Doesn't really help anyone to deny that intelligence collaboration with USA bloc is mandatory for tech companies.
Does Carlson, who wanted to join the CIA and supported all kinds of neoconservatives throughout his career, really pose any challenge to this? No, he is just going to inoculate Trump supporters from the information being used against the right, which paints itself as "against the New World Order". Fascism has done this since its inception, such as with Mussolini and others posing as anticapitalist critics as part of their eclectic strategy to gain support while out of power.
New apps help immigrants navigate Trump’s deportation crackdown
Hack Latino is an artificial intelligence-powered app for Latinos in the U.S., made by the Georgia-based entrepreneur Adrian Lozano Jr. It offers restaurant suggestions and consular information to more than 30,000 users, along with a key feature to keep them safe: a map of ICE sightings, launched in April.It is one of a slew of mobile platforms created by nonprofit organizations, independent developers, and foreign governments, which have cropped up amid a surge in immigration raids in the U.S. The Donald Trump administration has vowed to enact mass deportations from the U.S., home to some 13.7 million undocumented individuals. The digital tools provide services such as “Know Your Rights” guides, legal information, and emergency resources to help the community prepare for potential encounters with immigration authorities.
Apps such as Hack Latino or digital tools like Stop ICE Alerts function much like the community patrols of the 1990s, when neighbors and activists in neighborhoods with a large Hispanic presence would warn others about the arrival of authorities — except these apps have the added benefit of real-time technology, said Pedro Rios, director of the American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker organization that supports migrants and refugees.
Immigration raids fuel demand for migrant safety apps like ConsulApp - Rest of World
Tools like Hack Latino, ConsulApp, and Know Your Rights 4 Immigrants offer real-time alerts and legal help, but some are going offline under pressure.Karla Zabludovsky (Rest of World)
An LAPD helicopter claimed to have ID'ed protesters from above and threatened to "come to your house"
Cool...
This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
A LAPD helicopter claimed to have ID'ed protesters from above and threatened to "come to your house"
The practice, an expert warns, could lead to "reprisals and retribution by the police for your politics.”Mother Jones
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I wouldn't trust a foil bag to do anything 100%.
the only 100% way to not be caught is not bring it.
it also provides an alibi. "see, my phone was here all day long."
I bring my phone. I likely won't be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system's time. Just another data point they have to sort.
And if it gets to the point where none of that matters we were cooked anyway
Just go out wearing a MAGA hat. They only have small brains it'll probably confuse them.
Like how insects are always pretending to be wasps so they don't get eaten, see it's scientific.
Police issues a dispersal order, but blocks all routes to safely leave the area.
Congratulations, you will now be charged as having committed a crime and good luck proving in a court that there was no realistic option for you to leave.
Also police seizes your phone. Congratulations now they access your data and either go after people you have had contact with or they claim you to be part of a criminal organization as they pin other charges on people they found a connection with.
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I used helicopters a lot when I was on mountain rescue.
I never saw an air sick bag
Someone I know is a military pilot. The green lasers were especially rough, because the light would get spread through the entire cockpit getting split up by the windshield, and even worse when he was flying with nightvision.
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Federal offense and highly illegal. They take this extremely serious. Whatever target you were before, expect and multiple time increase in tracking doing this. They will make an example of you.
Source. Local police chases and FAA raids/reporting. Do not do this. You'd be better off finding another method.
Well there's open source open hardware anti-air missiles.
Also it sounds innocuous and green laser diodes cost 2$ so if everyone has them they won't be able to single out anyone.
Also when tghe copters are down, how are they going to track you? Drones, but that's the real purpose of the laser CCDs fry much much easier than eyes.
The surveillance state will not stop by beingpolitely ask but by being physically dismantled. The alternative is perpetual subjugation, the end of history, as far as you are concerned you become as useful and helpless as any other farm animal once this power becomes consolidated.
Our democracy is fake because of first past the post, ranked choice is a red herring. Proportionnal representation or your children will live in work farms. Like every fight before, this is an existential crisis for your perpetual subjugation.
They chose to make the sky a weapon, take the sky away from them.
you know what else is illegal?
- sending 500 Marines to quell a civil protest
- deputizing police as ICE agents
- yanking American citizens out of their homes because they aren't white enough
- sending Americans to a foreign prison system without trial
I don't give a flying fuck what they think is illegal anymore since none of them give a shit about the rule of law anymore.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
I'm an American, but my only experience with LA was traveling through for 2 days about 10 years ago. AKA no experience with LA.
This action appears to be originated from LAPD and therefore the local LA government. I have always considered LA to be deeply blue, and would therefore think that their local LA government would be Democrat, not Republican.
So should this not be the local blue voting populace having a word with their blue elected politicians?
"powered off"
Unless I'm holding the battery in one hand and the phone in the other I don't trust it being turned off either.
As someone who lives in Hurricane Alley, have you tried just not living where earthquakes happen?
That seems to be the standard response of those in California when a hurricane hits my area...
Interesting that a Californian making a callous comment about living in hurricane country is somehow equivalent to the conservative media industry absolutely cheering bloodshed any time natural disasters strike us. 🙄 If California celebrated like this any time, much less every time, a natural disaster hit somewhere else it would have its own dedicated conservative channel playing it on loop.
I’ve lived through multiple hurricanes because I haven’t always lived in California. People from everywhere say that stupid shit about hurricane prone areas. Take the chip off your shoulder.
It's a very personal issue for me.
I lost everything and had to start over with little more then the clothes on my back, and then to hear people say I should've just moved?
Right, because nobody lived here prior to the existence of FEMA.
I, for the life of me, cannot understand how people can look at the history of what our, and most other governments have done, and then say, "Hey, you know what? We need more of that!"
Even a well maintained helicopter is a safety nightmare.
I started my career in aerospace at a company that makes helicopter engines and later I became a search and rescue mountaineer/EMT in a county with more helicopters used for SAR than anywhere else in the US. We beat it into our new members "never pass up the opportunity to turn down a helicopter ride".
The mountain rescue association tracks member fatalities and injuries. Helicopter accidents are, by a large margin, the leading cause of line of duty death in mountain rescue, and we spend only a couple percent of our time in them.
Planes are safer. So is the ground.
Helicopters can't control decent in failure situations. Helos are a safety hazard period. I'm with the never pass up an opportunity to decline a helo ride crew above.
I mean, you do have some control during autorotation descent, but it's at best an extremely hard landing if your pilot is really skilled. They build crumple zones into the seat mounts for them.
It's a pretty cool technique. You adjust your rotor pitch to let you fall faster which let you put/keep angular momentum into your rotor, then at the last minute before slamming into the ground you pull hard on the collective and turn all that angular momentum in your rotor into lift to make it so that you don't slam the ground at full speed. You can manipulate the cyclic control (direction controls) during autorotation, but you're spinning the whole time, so it's very hard to guide an autorotation to a specific landing area.
The reason it being turned off matters is because LE has a significantly more difficult time extracting data from that state. And again, a proper faraday bag prevents signal leak.
You guys are welcome to do what you want, I'm just explaining the best way to stay safe if you don't want to leave your phone at home. There are plenty of legitimate reasons someone may want one as a lifeline just in case.
I don't think their gyroscopes are good enough for that level of inertial navigation. You could just fling it around tossing it up in the air and down again, that would totally mess with its navigation.
The far greater threat is that you just have the phone taken off you. For that reason alone you should use a burner, but I don't think you should be worried that they can track you based on gyroscope history.
Phones can figure out its location using gyroscopes and accelerometer
This is plainly false.
The error stack-up from the imprecision of a phone's MEMS sensors would make positioning basically impossible after a couple of dozen feet, let alone after hours of walking around.
There are experimental inertial navigation systems that can do what you describe, but they use ultra sensitive magnetometers to detect tiny changes in the behavior of laser suspended ultra cold gas clouds that are only a few hundred atoms large. That is not inside your phone.
Gyro/accelerometer data isn't accurate enough to do that. Small errors in the data add up and will quickly drift away from the actual location. You can use it for video game controllers, but not tracking over large distances. Edit: there's a reason the best VR tracking often uses external methods, not controllers alone.
But most phones have GPS and that's where the real problem is.
Do you have a recommendation for a good cheap android phone (didn't worry, I'll run a rom) that one could get to have a "clean" phone?
I've been thinking about getting a phone that has none of my socials on it for when I go to Canada to get vaccines
Brutal colonialism and imperialism, Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, the Philippines to name only a few.
Even armored helicopters are very vulnerable, flying things cannot afford to be sturdy.
Flying oppressors beware, you live on borrowed time.
Tail section, fuel tank, tangling hazards (steel wire spool, fast unspooling from above)
They made tge sky a weapon, take away the sky from everyone. Same with radios.
Pixel 6 is the minimum that can load up GrapheneOS. Those are like $130 on eBay.
Pixel 8/9 does have some CPU features that help separate memory, which can be useful for keeping apps from creeping on memory they shouldn't.
Is it plausible this might cause the helicopter to crash somehow? I wouldn't want to risk that.
Edit: can't believe people be downvoting this. Y'all have no idea how catastrophic a helicopter crash could be. But if you're downvoting because you think the answer is obvious and I'm stupid, I respect that.
Any software defined radio that can transmit on these bands and RF amplifiers.
The ham radio community also has all the information on how to build them out of of basic components, power RF transistors being the most expensive components, but that is still dollars not tens of dollars.
Sometimes ready made gps jammers can be obtained off the shelf from overseas markets outside of the hegemon's reach.
But active protest does require being smart about it. No point in just causing irritation with the population while leaving the enemy able to operate unencumbered.
That means performing observation, OSINT, signals intelligence to understand their system and find their weaknesses.
They will have covered most vulnerabilities from their own guerilla warfare manuals so study those and find their blind spots.
Find where they have become overconfident in their hardware's ability. Where they have started taking from granted technologies that remain only reliable in peacetime.
Use their systems against them
Meta is reportedly making a $15 billion bet on AGI
Meta is reportedly making a $15 billion bet on AGI
Meta is close to finalizing an almost $15 billion investment in Scale AI, the training data giant with clients including OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, and Meta.Hayden Field (The Verge)
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk: vita del padre della Turchia moderna
Mustafa Kemal Ataturk: vita del padre della Turchia moderna
La vita, le imprese e la morte di Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, eroe e fondatore della Turchia moderna e laicaAlessandro Sabelli (Fatti per la Storia)
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Because that's how recovery from an infection that peaks at three days works, especially if you also have untreated worms.
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in reply to DragonTypeWyvern • • •It spread because of one or two early studies with falsified data.
Personally, I wish this stuff were more lethal with prolonged usage. I think two people have died, but maybe people would think twice about believing social media if the risk were greater. And if they didn't, well, it's probably good for the survival of the species.
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in reply to vegeta • • •Dude. If morons want to eat worm paste and drink bleach. Fucking let them.
Like why the fuck do we need warnings on everything. Gas can says don’t drink. If your dumbass wants to drink gas, let me get you a cup.
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