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Three Years of Nix and NixOS: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly

A review of Nix/NixOS after using it on all my machines for three years. I'll cover what works, what doesn't, and why it's the first OS that's stuck with me.

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in reply to ikidd

Agreed with the article. There’s lots to dislike about Nix, but even with those downsides, NixOS is still better than any OS I’ve tried. Install an update and it’s borked? No worries. New PC and you want everything set up just like your old one? Copy one file over and it’s set up for you.

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Vincent

in reply to ThisDayForwardBetty • 2 mesi fa • •

Copy one file over and it’s set up for you.

So, I've only played around with NixOS on a Raspberry Pi, but... Don't people usually split their config up in multiple files, and then store than in a Git repository?

The process then still is: check out that Git repository, except there's another step: copy over your private key so that you can decrypt your secrets.

Is that correct? Or did I make things needlessly complex for myself?

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dblsaiko

in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

I don’t have any secrets in my config or a private key or anything and I’m currently running 4 servers from the same config (it used to be 8 or even more machines at some point even, including desktops).

But yes, it’s a multi-file config, it would be absolutely crazy to not split it up with how large it is.

systems - NixOS system configurations

^{git.dblsaiko.net}

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Vincent

in reply to dblsaiko • 2 mesi fa • •

Is that just because your four servers aren't used for anything that need a secret? e.g. I wanted to put my wifi password in there, and the password for my user account.

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balsoft

in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

The process then still is: check out that Git repository, except there’s another step: copy over your private key so that you can decrypt your secrets.

I store my secrets in a separate private git repo and automatically decrypt them with my hardware key (github.com/balsoft/nixos-confi…) so for me it's literally just plug in my yubikey and nixos-install github:balsoft/nixos-config#hostname

nixos-config/modules/secrets.nix at master · balsoft/nixos-config

Mirror of https://code.balsoft.ru/balsoft/nixos-config - balsoft/nixos-config

^GitHub

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Vincent

in reply to balsoft • 2 mesi fa • •

How do you access the private Git repo then? Don't you need a secret to access it?

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balsoft

in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

The ssh key to access the private git repo is on the same yubikey as the decryption key (they are technically different GPG slots but I don't need to care about that, just plug the key in, type in the pin, and it all works automagically)

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Vincent

in reply to balsoft • 2 mesi fa • •

That's neat!

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

Way over complex lol. I don't copy anything to online source for better or worse. I auto script backups. The only backups you'll ever need are nix config. Nothing else aside from your home folder obviously. With those two you can boot on any machine, anytime, as if you never left. I am not shilling. It's been dead stable so far, aside from tweaks I done to break my own builds testing.

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Vincent

in reply to OhVenus_Baby • 2 mesi fa • •

Hmm yeah, I guess the question is: is it overly complex if I do want to store my backup of my Nix config online, version-controlled, preferably publicly?

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

If you do then your golden. That's the way to go. I dislike online things. Personal preference. There's advantages going the GIT method as well.

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in reply to Vincent • 2 mesi fa • •

No. There are many of us that do that, I do, I found two random people online that did that and used their configs as a help when I was learning.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to ThisDayForwardBetty • 2 mesi fa • •

Unsure about dislikes. You have any desktop spin as you want, complete freedom, immutable, a single small file governs your entire system. I daily Nix currently and I haven't found an easier distro. I'm not super advanced and I did a full custom build, luks, tweaks, full app installs from scratch. Booted up as if I never left my old PC. Nix is the shit. Most everyone's concerns are overblown. Most haven't used it beyond a simple test run or few. The slight learning curve of your config syntax and that's it. I came from mint then from windows. Newcomers you can do it too!!

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Cyberwolf

in reply to ThisDayForwardBetty • 2 mesi fa • •

Install an update and it’s borked? No worries

OpenSUSE also does this.

New PC and you want everything set up just like your old one?

Install scripts? Of course the individual apps definitions still need to be set up again, but I'd imagine it's the same for Nix?

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Irdial

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

This is a well-written post. I agree that “friction” involved with small changes and incompatibility with some Linux binaries are significant downsides. I think NixOS makes a lot of sense for development environments, but it’s not my preference for a personal device

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traches

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

I like the idea of nixos, but I feel like it makes a bunch of daily sacrifices in order to optimize a task I do once every few years? I hardly ever get a new computer, but I install/uninstall/update/tweak packages on my system all the time. With a dotfile manager and snapshots, I get most of the benefit without any of the drawbacks.

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Flipper

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

It also is an option to ensure everyone has the same dev environment.

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atzanteol

in reply to Flipper • 2 mesi fa • •

Meh. So is docker.

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Mihies

in reply to atzanteol • 2 mesi fa • •

The docker is not bare metal though.

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utopiah

in reply to Mihies • 2 mesi fa • •

Does it matter if the overhead is practically irrelevant?

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trevor (he/they)

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

The biggest downside to containers vs. Nix for me is that Nix can produce binaries for Linux and macOS, whereas docker only helps with Linux unless you can perform literal magic to cross-compile your project on Linux for macOS.

Containers also don't give you reproducible environments, and Nix does.

That said, Nix documentation is ass, so I usually end up going with containers because they require far less suffering to get working because writing a containerfile is much easier than guessing how to hobble together a Nix flake with a mostly undocumented language.

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atzanteol

in reply to trevor (he/they) • 2 mesi fa • •

Containers also don't give you reproducible environments, and Nix does.

Of course it does. 🙄

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trevor (he/they)

in reply to atzanteol • 2 mesi fa • •

Care to elaborate? Containers give you repeatable environments, which are not the same thing as reproducible environments.

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atzanteol

in reply to trevor (he/they) • 2 mesi fa • •

docker build . -t docker.company.com/build-env:1.0 && docker push docker.company.com/build-env:1.0

But for like 99% of development teams "repeatable" is Good Enough(tm).

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trevor (he/they)

in reply to atzanteol • 2 mesi fa • •

So, containers do not get you reproducibility.

For dev environments, repeatable is okay. If you want actually reproducible binaries that you can ship, Nix is better fit for that purpose.

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atzanteol

in reply to trevor (he/they) • 2 mesi fa • •

So, containers do not get you reproducibility.

You absolutely do. If you build a container and publish it you will pull down that exact thing every time. How is that not "reproducibility"?

You no what though? Scratch that - who gives a fuck? Bit-for-bit reproducibility takes far more effort than it's worth anyway. Even NixOS isn't completely reproducible. It's a false goal.

For dev environments, repeatable is okay.

It's well more than good enough you mean.

If you want actually reproducible binaries that you can ship, Nix is better fit for that purpose.

Nobody really needs that.

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trevor (he/they)

in reply to atzanteol • 2 mesi fa • •

🤡

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gedhrel

in reply to trevor (he/they) • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm not quite sure why you fetishise a bit-for-bit over semantic equivalence. Doesn't it turn "it works on my machine" into "it works on my machine as long as it has this sha: ... "?

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trevor (he/they)

in reply to gedhrel • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm not quite sure why you think pointing out someone's confidently incorrect claim that containers do give you reproducible environments means that I fetishsize anything?

But if you genuinely want to know why reproducibility is valuable, take a look at reproducible-builds.org/.

I was quite happy to see that Debian and Arch have both made great strides into making tooling that enables reproducible packages in recent times. It's probable that, because of efforts like this, creating reproducible builds will become easier/possible on most Linux environments, including traditional container workflows.

For now though, Nix Flakes are much better at enabling reproducible builds of your software than traditional containers, if you can suffer through Nix not being documented very well. This article covers some more details on different build systems and compares them with Nix Flakes if you want more concrete examples.

FWIW, I think that containers are awesome, and using them for dev environments and CI tooling solves a lot of very real problems ("it works on my machine", cheap and easy cross-compilation for Linux systems, basic sandboxing, etc.) for people. I use containers for a lot of those reasons. But if I need to make something reproducible, there are better tools for the job.

Reproducible Development Environments with Nix Flakes

Using Nix Flakes allows pinning operation system level dependencies and make it easier for engineers to share development environments. Nix can guarantee that everyone has the same version of the interpreter, compiler, libraries, etc.

^{Gabor Nagy (:: aigeruth)}

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utopiah

in reply to trevor (he/they) • 2 mesi fa • •

Feels very arbitrary. Why would I care about say MacOS versus FreeBSD or say NeXTSTEP (just to be provocative)?

Anyway I'm being pulled away from the actual argument, the "bare metal" argument is about performances, isn't it?

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iopq

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

Yes, the systems people actually use vs every system that exists. Very arbitrary

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utopiah

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

What I mean is that MacOS is proprietary and runs on specific hardware, it's by design not meant to be interoperable so it's not "just" popularity.

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Mihies

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

It could if there are issues accessing hardware directly. Overhead is, as you said, not that important.

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utopiah

in reply to Mihies • 2 mesi fa • •

Isn't it what passthrough is for?

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atzanteol

in reply to Mihies • 2 mesi fa • •

sigh, yes it is.

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Phoenix3875

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

For DevOps, it provides consistency for every CI run and production deployment, especially when a whole system needs to be shipped.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Phoenix3875 • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm always on the go, swapping PCs, travelling for medical reasons. Buy, sell, trade hardware. Nix allows me to boot into my system as if I never left with a simple hardware config update script. Rock solid consistency.

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Cyberwolf

in reply to OhVenus_Baby • 2 mesi fa • •

Is your hardware always the exact same? Because if it isn't, then I'm sure you have to do modifications to your config file. And at that point you night as well just use a regular distro instead.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Cyberwolf • 2 mesi fa • •

So what the main hassle of switching is that you have to run your hardware file to update for your new hardware, then inside your Nix config rarely will I ever have to edit things (maybe UUIDS if totally new machine fresh nix install/but I usually ssd swap for ease of transition and speed, or even clonezilla multiple drives and use as needed) even drivers for example. I've got auto scripts setup to run that will automatically pull any drivers or updates from the base system nix update to any drivers.

There's really only two files you ever have to touch that I've used. Nix hardware, nix config. Once hardware is updated for which system you on you'll never touch that until you boot a new machine with different hardware. If you setup nix how it's supposed to be. Nix config is your master file. A single backup of that and when setup correctly. I can boot like I never left my machine. I'm talking librewolf still has my accounts open and logged in. VPN works. It's all seamless damn near.

You have to learn to play within nixos sandbox meaning understand what your capable of doing and do it all inside config. With a few auto scripts, and 3 or 4 common commands on desktop page for whatever you wanna do and its terminal and memory hands off. I've what I call dumb Monkey commented my entire config and its in order if boot process from power on machine to boot, etc to shutdown.

A regular distro still poses many many more challenges when hardware swapping. You have different files to remember fstab, etc etc which can lead to mental memory load and system clutter if you didn't build and maintain a perfect system from the beginning with stuff like files, sym links, all sorts if tweaks you've made over time.

So I switched to nix to mitigate those things. Now I've made a master config file copy, auto updates, backups, etc is all automated in the background now. All contained in my nix config. It's supremely stable. Mental load is zero. Fills my use case. Immutable.

You have nothing to lose and only to gain. Pick any desktop environment and setup to your liking. I came from windows, to mint, to full custom nix all my apps, browsers, luks, apparmour, firejail, the whole stack.

I've tried live boots of many other distributions but this is the cleanest, leanest, most manageable of them all. My only true concern is project lasting long-term. For now. Aside from not having GUFW. I'm happy. I think there's just a lot if misinfo and lack of hands on use from most people or incorrectly setup systems to utilize how nix should be ran. I think that should iron out over time.

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iopq

in reply to Cyberwolf • 2 mesi fa • •

You run the script that generates hardware config file for you, it's literally one command

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msherburn33

in reply to Cyberwolf • 2 mesi fa • •

You can manage multiple machines with a single Nix configuration git repository and modularize the configuration as much as you want. You can have a config with a desktop environment that you skip on servers, override individual variables for a specific host or do whatever you want. You can even remote deploy it all with a simple nixos-rebuild build --target-host "user@host" and it works across different architectures too (e.g. build on your fast x86 machine and deploy to a slow RaspberryPi).

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ZeStig

in reply to Cyberwolf • 2 mesi fa • •

Totally wrong. Even then, disko makes things easy.

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feddup

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

Loved nixOS but couldn't install PIA VPN gui and disliked the workarounds. Also doing .net dev was more awkward than I liked so went back to Arch and wrote some scripts to install all the packages I want instead. Love the idea of nixOS though.

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iopq

in reply to feddup • 2 mesi fa • •

Package your own if you need it

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feddup

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

I have no idea how and given there's been a lot of people asking the same thing I don't think it's as trivial as packaging some binaries.

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Ephera

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

I feel like setting up a new machine is just the easiest to explain.

Personally, I find dotfiles messy, as you often just want to change one or two settings, but you always carry along the whole file with all kinds of irrelevant other settings. This also makes it impractical to diff two versions of those dotfiles, especially when programs write semi-permanent settings into there.

I guess, your mileage will vary depending on what programs or desktop environment you use.
For example, I love KDE, but they really don't do a good job keeping the config files clean. Nix Plasma-Manager generally fixes that, and for example allows defining the contents of the panel in a readable form.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Ephera • 2 mesi fa • •

I think you over complicating your view here. I daily nix. Your not carrying a bunch if dot files. You have one. A single nix. Config. That's it. It's not big, long, messy, what so ever. I have mine commented by section from boot order to auto updates and backups. Your talking about 150 lines of extremely short and almost self explanatory code. I came from mint having never used nix. I figured it out doing a custom luks install and the whole custom build from scratch in no time.

Your diff issue is overblown. The edits you make are small and you cannot get lost in multiple configs unless your doing entire system writes which you would never do. I use a dead light weight diff GUI or terminal. This has to be one if the cleanest, maintenance free distros I have ever used.

It doesn't seem you have truly driven Nix with this take. No program writes directly to your config, even if there was say your temp scenario you reboot and temps would wipe away like you never did them unless you rebuild nix config. Most of your concerns would fall away once you really drove nix to see how it functions.

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in reply to OhVenus_Baby • 2 mesi fa • •

Ephera isn't talking about nix when they say dot files.

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Ephera

in reply to OhVenus_Baby • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, you understood my comment entirely the wrong way around. When I say "dotfiles", I mean the non-Nix way of managing application configurations. Nix Home-Manager happens to write to these dotfiles, but that means I don't have to deal with the dotfiles myself.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

I've used nixos exclusively lately. It's been awesome. No system scatter, clutter. It'd immutable. There's very slight driver hassle (you don't have GUI for drivers so a simple terminal command fetches everything you need.) in cinnamon. I came from mint. I have all basic commands in executable files on desktop for ease of hassle. It's not about rebuilding the system. Its about being hands off. Next to zero maintenance because not much in your system gets altered. I went for a full custom install from terminal. The only thing I personally miss being GUI is a firewall like UFW or GUFW.

Overall its more rock solid and workable than likely every distro I have ever tried. The feature set is nice, easy rollbacks, fucking cake backups. All you have to know is your entire system lives on one small editable file called nix. Configuration. Keep it in a micro SD or USB or any backup and it's as if you never left. Any changes you want you simply tweak in the config then reboot. If it breaks then select your previous gen number on boot and your exactly where you was before.

I diff my edits and keep copies, run auto backups, and more. It's so hands off that I haven't found a better replacement yet. My single biggest concern is long-term viability in the project.

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dinckel

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

This is a good example of what people consistently overlook/misunderstand, when it comes to Nix.

Obviously you can remount a /home, or just pull the dotfiles from a personal repo, but the strength of Nix is also in that I can re-create my entire config exactly how it is defined. If i were to setup a machine completely from scratch, with a mature enough config, it will get me from 0 to my exact desktop completely unattended.

But there are also many more advantages to it, at least in my eyes. Let's take trying/tweaking new packages as an example. Yesterday I pulled an old repo for an Outer Wilds mod. The thing needs a dev environment, and a mod manager for the actual game. A nix shell got me both, I finished my work, and when I exit out of fish, both are gone, just as I wanted them to be.

Another good example would be partial os updates. I've used Arch for almost 9 years before switching to Nix, and pretty much a top3 Arch rule is not doing partial updates, or partial rollbacks. In case of a breakage, I would have to manually redownload an older version of a tarball, pacman -U the package, and then hope i'm not cooked. In the case of gcc incompatibilities, it can quickly become a massive pain in the ass. My nix flake would never experience this problem, because I already have two different scenarios available - either i build based on an older lockfile from my git repo, or I create an overlay for a specific input I need, so that it still pulls what it needs, and doesn't interfere with the rest of my system

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iopq

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

You only have one machine? I benefit from sharing configs between the laptop and the desktop. They are not the same, but I can easily copy paste a complex service I defined in my desktop to do the same thing on my laptop

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traches

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

I have a desktop, laptop, and a few VMs and servery things. Dotfile manager (yadm, which is a git wrapper) to sync personal settings, everything else I just do manually. The system-level configs are either different enough that standardizing them isn’t very helpful, or no more complicated than installing packages and activating services.

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iopq

in reply to traches • 2 mesi fa • •

Activating services is the specific task NixOS is great at, you can just add it and it downloads the packages and starts it and generates the configs

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traches

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, I’ll probably switch eventually I’m just trying to talk myself out of it because I don’t have the time to learn right now

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Ephera

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

Personally, the stepping stone I needed to know about is Nix Home-Manager, which basically allows you to manage your dotfiles independent of the distro. From what I understand, if I do switch to NixOS, I'll continue using this code with just some minor tweaks.

But yeah, I agree with the verdict in the post. I like it a lot, but I would not have made it past the initial learning curve, if I didn't happen to be a software engineer. Sysadmins will probably be able to figure out how to put it to use, too. But it's just not for non-technical Linux users.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to Ephera • 2 mesi fa • •

Untrue. I came from windows, to Linux mint, then now I daily nix. I'm an average person who prefers to be terminal hands off. I did a full custom install from my mint setup to nix, apps, luks, the entire swap and booted as if I never left basically. I faltered a few times and had to select previous generations in my boot menu but honestly it'd because somehow I fucked up my UUIDs. The learning curve is there but let me assure you it's minimal in terms of linux, and it's dead stable because nothing changes without you doing it. In 1000 years it should still be running Unadultered.

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utopiah

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

Meanwhile me as a barbarian installing Debian and copying my ~/.bashrc file (and a few others) if not just remounting /home/ in the new installation every few years.

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9488fcea02a9

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

One of my machines i've been just upgrading in place since debian 8. No need for new installation

Debian isn't barbaric at all.

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SavvyWolf

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

Skipped to the "ugly" part of the article and I kind of agree with the language being hard?

I think a bigger problem is that it's hard to find "best practices" because information is just scattered everywhere and search engines are terrible.

Like, the language itself is fairly simple and the tutorial is good. But it's a struggle when it comes to doing things like "how do I change the source of a package", "how do I compose two modules together" and "how do I add a repo to a flake so it's visible in my config". Most of this information comes from random discourse threads where the responder assumes you have a working knowledge of the part of the codebase they're taking about.

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OhVenus_Baby

in reply to SavvyWolf • 2 mesi fa • •

I always aim at packages and issued inside my nix config cuts all this hassle out atleast for me.. Ive got everything pretty meticulously commented and in order of boot process and in general running step by step order. I'm pretty sure I dumb monkey could figure out how it runs. I came from windows then mint then nix. To give you an idea of my PC knowledge. I think the whole point if nix is to keep the system contained and not scattered. I see many posters mentioning system scatter on nix as an issue and I have no idea how theu managed to complicate one if the simplest systems I've ever used as far as clean, tidy, goes.

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elucubra

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

I wonder why nobody has created a simple gui for Nixconfig.

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ch8zer

in reply to elucubra • 2 mesi fa • •

Something like this is really hard to make a gui for. I suppose a GUI would only be useful for discovering config values?

Either way, a gui would likely look like YAST on OpenSuse.

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frozencow

in reply to elucubra • 2 mesi fa • •

Someone has done just that: github.com/snowfallorg/nixos-c…
It is part of snowflakeos.org/, though I don't know about its developments atm.

GitHub - snowfallorg/nixos-conf-editor: A libadwaita/gtk4 app for editing NixOS configurations

A libadwaita/gtk4 app for editing NixOS configurations - snowfallorg/nixos-conf-editor

^GitHub

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iopq

in reply to frozencow • 2 mesi fa • •

It's less simple than text because it actually takes more space to view the same amount of configs.

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elucubra

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

For rollbacks, I've been using Timeshift in Mint, and it has worked brilliantly.

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phantomwise

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

I've been stuck on Nix for two weeks because I thought it would be a good idea to put a distro I had never used but that wouldn't break on my backup laptop in case my main one ever broke. I just couldn't force myself to install debian, not that I have anything against debian, it's just... kinda boring, while Nix seemed very interesting. IT SEEMED LIKE A GOOD IDEA AT THE TIME I SWEAR.

Guess what happened... I broke Arch. Then I reinstalled and the next day the laptop broke. Then the next day I tried to get my data back and the hard drive broke. So, backup laptop with Nix for two weeks...

I really really really like the declarative stuff. Installing packages through config files is so nice I'll never lose track of what I've installed ever again 🥰 🥰 🥰 I was already using a git repo for all my config files + GNU Stow to symlink everything to its proper place, so adding the .nix configs to that setup was very easy.
Having a clean system on rebuild is great. No more clutter left everywhere that I don't know about, no more half broken stuff left lying around.

But...
- It's not Arch. Not Nix's fault, but I kept hearing that it would be "like Arch but declarative"... and it's really not 😑 Everything seems over-complicated vs as simple as possible.
- I absolutely hate the language.
- What's with those error messages from hell???
- And speaking of hell, every language that can't just use indentations like YAML instead of cluttering the code with {} and [] and () should have been relegated to the darkest pit of hell 20 years ago. But points to Nix for being less awful than JSON (the comma on every line but not the last thingy make me want to build a time machine to go murder the grandparents of whoever thought it was a good idea)
- Packages are out of date even in the unstable branch (I know it's unfair since it's not trying to be a rolling release... but... but...)
- Where are the source packages? Is that an Arch only thing? I liked having packages that automatically use the latest git commit without needing to manually install from source and manually reinstall each time I want an update like a medieval peasant... 😭
- Nix packages are weird. Even someone who's terrible at coding like me can read Arch PKGBUILDS... I miss you Arch 😢
- Apps not working because of paths that don't exist on Nix... what do you mean I need to patch the package myself? 😭 But at least there's steam-run, great preserver of what's left of my sanity.
- ~~Can't wrap my head around installing some stuff like VSCode extensions (the advice I got was "don't bother just do it imperatively...)~~ (Edit: Finally figured it out!!!)
- Wiki is often sparse on info and not very helpful if you don't already know what you are doing (and I clearly don't 😅)
- Hidden configs. Some stuff works on its own like pipewire even though I haven't installed or configured it (I went with a minimal install that just gave me a tty then build from there, no DE), and how it's already configured is not in the default config files. It's very confusing not knowing why some stuff works and how it's configured by default.

But it's kinda growing on me. Like mold. Or cancer. Brain cancer.

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nullpotential

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You use a lot of emojis.

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phantomwise

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Yes emoji use is proportional to the decrease in my sanity after those two weeks

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nullpotential

in reply to phantomwise • 2 mesi fa • •

Relatable.

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phantomwise

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I'm sure it'll get better once I'm more used to it, just venting a bit. Sorry for the rant

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Bluefruit

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I found this very entertaining lol. And it also confirms I made the right choice not using Nix as my daily driver. This sounds like a headache.

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phantomwise

in reply to Bluefruit • 2 mesi fa • •

Yes it's a headache if you don't have a clue what you're doing and suck at coding like me, but the good parts might make the headache worth it depending on what you want of your distro. A week ago I couldn't wait to get a new laptop to reinstall Arch, but now I'm actually wondering if I should keep trying Nix... OH GOD HAVE I CAUGHT THE NIX BRAIN CANCER? 😭

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eecobb

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I wonder what your thoughts on guix would be, especially considering your thoughts on the language

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a Kendrick fan

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I'm just seeing your comment after I recommended Guix, that I could read and understand Guile Scheme is what made me hop away from NixOS, the nixlang is an ungrokable mess

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phantomwise

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Succinctly : "OH GOD MY EEEEEYES"

I'm not a fan of nested parenthesis... but aside from that I don't know much about the language, is it more convenient? Does it also suffer from the error messages from hell problem?

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a Kendrick fan

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I absolutely hate the language

Check out Guix_System_Distribution, it's just like NixOS but uses a Scheme dialect which is a better language.

GNU Guix transactional package manager and distribution — GNU Guix

Guix is a distribution of the GNU operating system. Guix is technology that respects the freedom of computer users. You are free to run the system for any purpose, study how it works, improve it, and share it with the whole world.

^guix.gnu.org

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thedeadwalking4242

in reply to a Kendrick fan • 2 mesi fa • •

If you like parentheses anyway

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msherburn33

in reply to thedeadwalking4242 • 2 mesi fa • •

That is something you can't quite escape in Nix either. While it doesn't use parenthesis like a Lisp, the nature of the language and the depths of the sets you are dealing with still makes you end up getting a lot of this at the end of your files:

        ];
      };
    };
  };
}

Having one } too many or too few is a pretty common issue with Nix and feels very similar to Lisp, even when the rest of the language is quite different.

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msherburn33

in reply to a Kendrick fan • 2 mesi fa • •

While some people love putting Lisp in everything, I really don't get it. Guix is far uglier than Nix in the language department. Scheme is not a configuration language and thus has none of the nice things that Nix has (multi-line string handling, defaults, lazy evaluation, inline expression, etc.), instead you get multiple levels of macro spaghetti. Furthermore, Guix forces you to turn everything into Scheme, where you can just use plain Bash in your Nix build steps, in Guix that is all Scheme.

I had spent a lot of years with Scheme before starting with Guix and then spend quite a few years with that, but even after all that switching to Nix just felt so much better instantly. Instead of trying to hack a DSL onto of Scheme you just get a language that's actually build for the task.

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SkaveRat

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But points to Nix for being less awful than JSON (the comma on every line but not the last thingy make me want to build a time machine to go murder the grandparents of whoever thought it was a good idea)

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lapping6596

in reply to SkaveRat • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, fuck that guy!

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phantomwise

in reply to SkaveRat • 2 mesi fa • •

There's one evil genius responsible for both JSON and JavaScript? °o°

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HayadSont

in reply to phantomwise • 2 mesi fa • •

Packages are out of date even in the unstable branch (I know it’s unfair since it’s not trying to be a rolling release… but… but…)

Sure, some packages are outdated. But in terms of percentage of up-to-date packages, it's (AFAIK) the best out of any distro repo. And that's perhaps even more impressive of a feat when realizing it also sports the biggest repo. For actual stats: repology.org/repositories/stat…

Repository statistics - Repology

Multiple package repositories analyzer

^repology.org

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phantomwise

in reply to HayadSont • 2 mesi fa • •

Wait how does Nix Unstable have a better score than the AUR? With four times less maintainers? That's really impressive, especially considering how much more simple Arch packages are to make.

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iopq

in reply to phantomwise • 2 mesi fa • •

Because you end up feeling unsatisfied with running the thing until you package it. I don't even understand the Nix language and I still messed around with a couple of packages

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iopq

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Nix has more up to date packages than most distros have packages in total. There's a bot that goes around updating them automatically if they are from github. Maybe there's an issue with your package?

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phantomwise

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

I think I might have been misusing the term "outdated", the packages are a few versions behind but they do work. I haven't run into packages that didn't work except because of path issues (fixed by using steam-run).

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msherburn33

in reply to phantomwise • 2 mesi fa • •

Where are the source packages?

It's reproducible, so random updates are a no-no. You can however just dump the Git URL in your flake.nix inputs and then override the src of the package with that. The source gets updated when you do nix flake update next time. Something like this:

inputs {
    ...
    mypackage_src.url = "github:myorg/mypackage";
    mypackage_src.flake = false;
    ...
}

pkgs.mypackage.overrideAttrs (oldAttrs: {
              src = mypackage_src;
              version = "nightly-${mypackage_src.shortRev or "src"}";
            })

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phantomwise

in reply to phantomwise • 2 mesi fa • •

Finally managed to enable VSCode extensions without doing it imperatively or using home manager I'm so happy I could cry 😭 😭 😭

It actually wasn't even that bad, I'm just terrible at understanding documentation I guess

    (vscode-with-extensions.override {
        vscodeExtensions = with vscode-extensions; [
            bodil.blueprint-gtk          # Gtk Bluprint language support
            ms-vscode.makefile-tools     # Makefile language support
            bbenoist.nix                 # Nix language support
            ms-python.python             # Python language support
            naumovs.color-highlight      # Color Highlight
            ms-azuretools.vscode-docker  # Docker
            donjayamanne.githistory      # Git History
            seatonjiang.gitmoji-vscode   # Gitmoji
        ];
    })

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steeznson

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

NixOS sounds like ansible in OS form and that has never seemed appealing. Happy to hear why my impression is wrong though!

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aim_at_me

in reply to steeznson • 2 mesi fa • •

Ansible is idempotent with a lot of intent. NixOS is idempotent.

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smiletolerantly

in reply to steeznson • 2 mesi fa • •

Think about it like this:

with ansible, you are responsible for making sure that executing the described steps in the described order leads to the desired result
with nix, you describe what you want your system to look like, and then figuring out how to get there is nix's problem (or rather, is obvious to nix thanks to nixpkgs)

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steeznson

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Thanks for explaining

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Sibbo

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It's missing the fact that the nix store can be huge, even if garbage collected regularly. This prevents me from using nix on my Ubuntu laptop with limited HDD space.

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danhab99

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I really feel compelled to share that I actually really fucking love nix. I've never felt so confident that my computer would turn on no problem. It was hard and it was rewarding.

Idk I guess I haven't had it for long but once I got my dotfiles the way I like I just stopped messing with it.

Also nix devshells are pretty dope (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠)

GitHub - danhab99/dotfiles: My personal configs

My personal configs. Contribute to danhab99/dotfiles development by creating an account on GitHub.

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iopq

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

If you download a binary you can just steam-run it and it just works

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smiletolerantly

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SolarBoy

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This command will just run an executable file on nix. Normally only executables which are installed from the package manager will work.

appimage-run is another option. Which can be used to run, you guessed it, appimages

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iopq

in reply to SolarBoy • 2 mesi fa • •

But appimages will complain about unmet dependencies, so usually they don't work

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SolarBoy

in reply to iopq • 2 mesi fa • •

I haven't had any issues thus far. But I have not used a lot of appimages. Usually I can find everything in nixpkgs, and those that I didn't all worked with appimages.

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msherburn33

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

The Nix language itself is the hardest part.

Let me disagree there, the language is trivial. It's just JSON-lookalike with expressions, with a lot of nice touches that make using it much easier than all the alternatives (e.g. sane multi-line string handling, lazy evaluation, default values, powerful key/value sets, etc.). The only real stumbling for me when first encountering it was realizing that functions can only take a single argument (which can be a key/value set) and that functions are literally just : (e.g. (a: a + 5) 6 => 11). That's easily missed if you just look at a file without reading the documentation.

The thing that makes it hard is just the complexity of the actual package collection, your configuration contains literally your whole system, and it's not always obvious where to find the thing you need, since sometimes it's a plain package, sometimes it is a services.foobar.enable = true and sometimes you have to fiddle with override or other package specific things. Knowing that
search.nixos.org/ exists is half the battle here.

There is also the lack of static typing that can lead to rather verbose error messages, but it's not like many other configuration formats have that either.

NixOS Search

^{search.nixos.org}

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heraplem

in reply to msherburn33 • 2 mesi fa • •

There are a few gnarly things about Nix, even for someone who's familiar with Haskell (the most similar language to Nix that's even close to mainstream).

Dynamic typing (you mention this briefly). Some people like the extra flexibility that dynamic typing gives, but there's a tradeoff: more errors. The thing is, due to NixOS's complicated structure, the traceback for an evaluation error might not give you any information about where the cause is (indeed, the traceback might not include a single line of your own code!). This makes errors unusually costly in NixOS specifically, so any language feature that causes more runtime errors automatically has a worse impact than it would in a more "normal" language.
The "standard library" (builtins) is extremely sparse. You basically have to depend on at least nixpkgs-lib if you want to get any real work done.
No real data abstraction mechanisms. No ADTs, no nominal types. The only composite types are attrsets and lists. The usual way to encode a custom type is as an attrset with a _type field or some such.
While we're at it, very limited pattern-matching.
Clunky list literal syntax: no commas between list elements. I can't tell you the number of times I've forgotten to surround list elements in parentheses.
Can anyone remember the rules for escaping ${ or ''? I have to look them up every time.

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SolarBoy

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Using a language server like nixd also helps a lot with auto completing packages and options in your config.

Apparently people are also working on the nickel configuration language to address some of the nix limitations and difficulties.

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chaospatterns

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

I really want to like Nix. The idea of declaratively defining my entire system sounds great. I can manage it with Git and even have multiple machines all look the same. I can define my partititioning once and magically get a btrfs disk working. Wow!

But I find the language confusing no matter how many times people say it's easy. I have a lot of experience with other programming languages so maybe it just doesn't mesh. It also gives terrible error messages that are hard for me to understand. And Nixpkgs is unpredictable for what version I'm going to get. One of the services I installed ended up being a release candidate version which was a surprise. What if I don't want the latest version of Docker? How do I pin it? Do I have to duplicate part of Nixpkgs? It just feels like a monorepo where everybody has to be on the same versions. Why on earth do the Nix language docs start by introducing math expressions instead of here is a simple self contained thing that installs one program. Here's how you configure it. Here's how you expand. Why does the dependency graph seem to pull in so many unnecessary dependencies? For example, I tried to build a minimal Docker image (which Nix looks to be a very good fit for), but I couldn't figure out how to strip out dependencies that likely were only used during build for a dependency.

I still like the idea and have managed to get my server defined entirely with NixOS which is very cool, but I can't recommend this to my tech friends because if I'm confused they will be more so.

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LeFantome

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

I have not used Nix, so I may not know what I am talking about.

That said, I have been using Chimera Linux which uses the APK package manager. It works by maintaining a single file in /etc/apk/world that specifies all the packages the user wants on the system. This is used to calculate dependencies and install packages. When you “add” and “del” packages, all it is really doing is adding and removing from this list. If you remove a package, it will remove all the dependencies too unless they appear in the “world” file.

If you do not specify a version number for a package, you get the latest. But you can pin versions of you want.

If you copy the world file from one system to another, you get the same set of installed packages.

So, if I use git to backup my world file, maybe a couple of other entries in /etc, and the dot files in my home directory, I have pretty much everything I need to completely recreate my system.

Is it really worth all the extra complexity of Nix?

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Starlink's Secret War: How Musk Is Powering a Covert Campaign Against Iran

Elon Musk Activates Starlink to Help Topple Iran’s Regime

After a Trump advisor called for regime change, Musk activated Starlink to aid a covert U.S. effort to undermine Iran’s government.

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The Best-Selling Apps Made By Israeli Spies

A new frontier for the BDS movement

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Drunk & Root

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everything on play and app store is spyware and not safe if you cant audit the source you need to assume its spying

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"Big, beautiful bill" pushes millions of people away from social safety net

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Brazil's Victory for Digital Sovereignty

Despite years of campaigning for impunity by the Bolsonaros and the American far right, a Supreme Court ruling has increased social media corporations' accountability for internet crimes.

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FreudianCafe

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Will he keep this dumb position when hes the one veing censored? Ill be waiting to see

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Avatar of Vengeance

in reply to FreudianCafe • 2 mesi fa • •

Did you read the article? Be honest with me. Because nobody who attentively read the article would think this is a new censorship regime, rather than foreign tech monopolies being asked to follow the law. You're siding with Elon Musk now?

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FreudianCafe

in reply to Avatar of Vengeance • 2 mesi fa • •

You seem to confuse how things work on paper and how reality is. Platforms will take down any content that may get them sued. If you dont like what someone is doing, sue the platform for whatever hatespeech and they take the content down. But theres no need to argue, just wait and see

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Avatar of Vengeance

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Telesur is not going to get censored by Brazilian law lmao, if platforms did that it would be a reprisal for being made to follow Brazilian law.

There is no good argument for the US oligarchy to get final say over the govts of the countries using their services, but this is even crazier to say when US platforms are littered with mysteriously unmoderated Nazi content. Get real?

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FreudianCafe

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This fairytale seems real cool. But when you wake up check what pro israel agencies made out of hate speech worldwide, including Brasil, and try to guess what will happen

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Avatar of Vengeance

in reply to FreudianCafe • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm the one spinning fairy tales?? You're telling me that these companies aren't already blocking people in accordance with their own policies shaped by those very organizations? I just think there is a misunderstanding here, because Bolsonaro would never do anything like this but you're reframing it as a win for him.

I sure hope nobody thinks of Brazil as a magic kingdom where only good things happening. For the govt there to actually grow a backbone and limit the influence of the orgs that are encouraging their petit boug to be little pro-US Evangelical nightmare beings would ve fantastic. The dominance of US tech & media is very very bad and other countries need actual sovereignty (like enforcing their laws on multinational companies and not legalizing their activities - at a bare minimum, as relying on them at all is a result of being deliberately underdeveloped)

These companies are very entwined with US state power it's imperialism and the privatization of the state that is an issue not third world sovereignty itself

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FreudianCafe

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This is not a win for bolsonaro, its a HUGE loss for brasilian people

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Avatar of Vengeance

in reply to FreudianCafe • 2 mesi fa • •

No it's not! I hope you can see that uninhibited unlawful access by multinational media & telecom companies is exactly what leads to the establishment of comprador figures like Bolsonaro, who dislike Telesur's politics.

I'm actually glad you've raised this, as it helps me develop my thoughts on social libertarian left tech activism & its limitations. One of its dubious accomplishments is watering down the wrongs done by the US & allied governments with pop social science into generic anti-authoritarian rhetoric, and opposing actions by neo-colonized countries which limit foreign soft power + capital

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FreudianCafe

in reply to Avatar of Vengeance • 2 mesi fa • •

Thanks for teaching us that people like bolsonaro didnt get to power before the internet. Like FHC or Collor

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Kras Mazov

in reply to FreudianCafe • 2 mesi fa • •

Oh fuck off. It's the PCO person again with the bullshit muh freeze peach. Stop being a reactionary for 5 minutes, will you?

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FreudianCafe

in reply to Kras Mazov • 2 mesi fa • •

People who dont have anything meaningfull to say dont have to worry about that. You are free to block me, and i strongly encourage you to

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PowerCrazy

in reply to Avatar of Vengeance • 2 mesi fa • •

In 2014, after years of debate, Brazil's Congress ratified Law 12.965/2014, the Internet Civil Framework. This law required social media companies to delete posts and deplatform users who broke Brazilian laws. However, it placed the burden on Brazilian courts to identify the posts and accounts.

Is this meant to apply to all "users" of the platform or only Brazilian Citizens?

If it applies to Brazilian Citizens, that's all fine and good. But if I break brazilian law by criticizing their government, is lemmy.ml expected to "deplatform" and "censor" me?

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PowerCrazy

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So you are telling me that when Israel makes their definition of "anti-semitism" illegal that everyone in the entire world that uses the internet has to abide by it? That doesn't seem desirable or sane at all.

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PowerCrazy

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That is the natural extension of your line of thinking is it not? Which users are "persecutable" by brazilian/Israeli law? If it's not just the citizens of Brazil (which i'm ok with, obviously a nation should be able to pass laws that apply to their citizens) but everyone "persecutable," doesn't that mean that a country that is sufficiently able to persecute anyone in the world is now justified to enforce their laws upon the entire world?

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Avatar of Vengeance

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Yes, the person hosting a website has to abide by the laws of countries they want to avoid being blocked in. This is common sense unless you're Mark Zuckerberg. No human rights for zillionaires, sorry chuddy

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PowerCrazy

in reply to Avatar of Vengeance • 2 mesi fa • •

So is lemmy.ml breaking the law in brazil right now? And rather then laughing at the notion, you think it's a good thing? Yea you should probably change your name to Avatar of Fascism.

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Avatar of Vengeance

in reply to PowerCrazy • 2 mesi fa • •

No it's not, also there is at least one Brazilian Lemmy instance, stop crying in my mentions because someone made Facebook and Twitter follow laws which ALREADY APPLIED TO EVERYONE ELSE. Replying to me will not bring your wife back or whatever this is.

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PowerCrazy

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Which countries laws "ALREADY APPL[Y] TO EVERYONE ELSE?" Cause I'm pretty sure that isn't how laws of other countries work. I understand that you want countries to pass laws making it illegal for people to make fun of you on the Internet, but that's a laughable notion.

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Avatar of Vengeance

in reply to PowerCrazy • 2 mesi fa • •

Quit pulling stuff out of your ass, I've been trying to explain this to you because I find the subject engaging. Unc I spoke to you for the same reason I speak to hobos, we're all human beings, but you were already testing my patience, this is ridiculous. I'm still not convinced you read the article. I'm saying other websites in Brazil have to follow the law, US social media companies have been ignoring it, while enforcing their own code of conduct modeled after US definition of "disinformation" and internet laws. The supreme court of Brazil is enforcing the preexisting laws on them. It seems like you are not grasping the basic details to me or you're just a lunatic

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PowerCrazy

in reply to Avatar of Vengeance • 2 mesi fa • •

I read the article. In-fact I started this thread asking for clarification to whom these laws apply. Then you went off on a tangent about Zuckerberg and implied i'm a "chud." So let me state how I think these laws apply, tell me if this is correct.

The Nation of Brazil passes a law that says the users of a website have to abide by Brazil's laws. I don't know what they meant by that, I assume lemmy.ml that is not hosted in Brazil isn't expected to know nor care about what Brazil's laws say. But if that were the case, then Facebook also wouldn't be expected to know nor care about what Brazil's laws say. The citizens of brazil that use facebook? Sure, they should be subject to those laws. But why should any other entity that exists outside of Brazil be obligated to know nor care about Brazilian law?

Those details seem pretty important, and the article doesn't address them at all, it merely says that Brazil's supreme court says that website are required to "deplatform" and "delete posts" of users who broke the law. But why should lemmy.ml abide by brazilian laws?

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Avatar of Vengeance

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Lemmy.ml should abide by Brazilian laws because otherwise they'll get blocked in that country. I'm not much of a free speech fanatic. Ideally if people post a bunch of Nazi shit then Brazilian ISPs will be legally obliged to block it. The socdems in Brazil are rather lame so I have little faith in all of the "dark humor" Fb and Telegram groups getting nuked.

I'm not a lawyer, but, if you understand this isn't even a new law and it's just the end of impunity for US companies I don't see why you would frame this as an imminent threat to free speech. That's why I doubted you read.

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Taiwan to simulate Chinese invasion in major drill

How much of a handicap are they willing to give themselves? I want to see all the details lol

https://archive.today/2025.07.02-222616/https://www.reuters.com/world/china/taiwan-simulate-chinese-invasion-major-drill-2025-07-01/

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democratic island

Mainstream media is such a joke lmao.

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[Question] Fedora KDE defaults to console mode if I don't turn on the display during boot-up

Any way to force the desktop to load regardless? I know, typing startx isn't hard, but I would like not to. Tnx!

#linux

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lilith267

in reply to some_random_nick • 2 mesi fa • •

Had the same problem on fedora (no issue on bazzite, nobara, or arch). First time it was xwayland that kept crashing without a display present for some reason, second time I never solved since I was distro hopping the fedora family of distros but it seemed to be a problem with SDDM

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some_random_nick

in reply to lilith267 • 2 mesi fa • •

Seems like you were right. I checked my logs with the monitor turned off and the last logged message is SDDM segfaulting.

cattywampas via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

cattywampas
2 mesi fa • •

They could have named our galaxy anything and this is what we got

I'd even take "Sombrero" over "Milky Way"

#memes

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CommanderCloon

in reply to cattywampas • 2 mesi fa • •

Milky Ray

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Evil_Shrubbery

in reply to cattywampas • 2 mesi fa • •

Milfy Way, or Milfky Way.
\
(Aka The way of the milf.)

It's such a shitty joke (my brainhole entertains itself in the stupidest, nonsensical, basic ways).

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Dialectical Idealist via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

Dialectical Idealist
2 mesi fa • •

Nobodywantstoworkanymore!!

#memes

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Skiluros via World News

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Skiluros
2 mesi fa • •

I hope all of you tankie roaches meet the same fate as Donbas cowboy, Russell Bentley.

Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.

Imagine what was going through Bentley's mind as his fellow Russians were torturing him to death.

You are all vile and disgusting scum. Let's hope one day you get to experience Bentley's last moments.

Better late then never, right?

I hope Dessalines in particular gets a taste of russian culture by getting closely acquainted with some champagne bottles (russian style).

Russian Soldiers Charged With Involvement In American's Death

Russell Bentley, a Texas man who as the "Donbas Cowboy" gained notoriety for joining Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine, was tortured before being killed in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian city of Donetsk, Russian authorities said.

^{Current Time (RFE/RL)}

#Worldnews

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SpiderUnderUrBed via Linux

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SpiderUnderUrBed
2 mesi fa • •

OBS does not allow me to create a new pipewire screen (only one works)

How come when I try to create a new obs screen, it is black, whether or not i toggle off the visibility on Screen Capture
and how do i get it to show the capture settings, like which monitor, or what portion of the screen, to be clear, the! first capture works, for some reason no other capture i try to create is letting me configure or display anything

^ Image \
pastebin.com/AzKCZ8Tt \
^ Logs \
imgur.com/a/K7pMA4p
\
^ Video \
There is a chance this might be related to another issue I had, but I dont know a fix (I have to manually add what portals I want to install due to a bug, but I have the plasma portals so that should be enough?)

debug: Found portal inhibitordebug: Attempted path: /app/bin/../share/obs/obs- - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

^Pastebin

#linux

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just_another_person

in reply to SpiderUnderUrBed • 2 mesi fa • •

There's a multitude of things going on here probably, but you need some debug logs to find. My guess is because your machine probably has multiple GPUs enabled, it's picking the inactive one, or you have multiple portal methods install and it's choosing the wrong.

Can you get some logs?

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SpiderUnderUrBed

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

I have the hyprland portals installed, and the kde ones, due to some issue I had to explicitly install them so idk if that will mess with the way applications handle it, assuming not, and yes I have two gpus, one dgpu, and one igpu, the dgpu is directly connected to my hdmi, does OBS stuggle with 2 gpus? still, that sounds like it would be a issue with capturing the monitor managed by my igpu. Not a reason to stop a second pipewire capture.

What logs do you need? I provided some from running OBS but i assume it isnt enough, what logs should I collect, or is there a flag i need to run with OBS

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just_another_person

in reply to SpiderUnderUrBed • 2 mesi fa • •

Missed your logs link, but there's some hints in there.

You have both an Intel GPU and Nvidia GPU in that laptop, and it's selecting your Intel while trying to use Nvidia compatible settings. So you need to try and force everything to either work on Nvidia, or everything to work on Intel. It can't do both without splitting the settings per GPU, which I don't think is an option in OBS.

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SpiderUnderUrBed

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

I tried nvidia-offload, as I set up PRIME awhile ago, it didnt help, here is the logs, if its useful:
pastebin.com/CiJ4Zyjw

Idk if OBS would actually respect the GPU being handed to it, or if it'll do something weird with screen capture, its weird per-gpu settings is not a option with OBS, if this is a OBS bug, i can file a bug report. Hopefully it can be resolved here.

[spiderunderurbed@daspidercave:~/tmp2]$ nvidia-offload flatpak run com.obsproj - Pastebin.com

Pastebin.com is the number one paste tool since 2002. Pastebin is a website where you can store text online for a set period of time.

^Pastebin

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just_another_person

in reply to SpiderUnderUrBed • 2 mesi fa • •

Well in that log, it actually DOES use the right GPU. There are some other errors you have going on in there though, like you seem to have AV1 encoding selected somewhere in your settings, but this RTX 3070 doesn't support AV1 encoding (on the fly) AFAIK.

Try launching the app this same, setting all your hardware encoding stuff back to defaults, then see if you can get it working. In these logs it IS picking up the second pipewire display, so that's good, but launch this way again without AV1 enabled then upload the logs again and let's see what's happening.

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Dima

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

To add RTX 30XX series doesn't support AV1 encode, only decode, so any AV1 encoding would have to be done on the CPU (better to use h.264 or HEVC for hardware encode in OBS)

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SpiderUnderUrBed

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

I dont think i ever set AV1 encoding inside OBS, looking at my settings, it just shows h.264: \

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oni ᓚᘏᗢ

in reply to SpiderUnderUrBed • 2 mesi fa • •

I had this same issue using certain compositors, the last I remember was Niri, with Wayland. Which compositor do you use?

SUPER SAIYAN via Memes

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SUPER SAIYAN
2 mesi fa • •

I knew some memes felt perfectly timed…

#memes

CannonGoBoom via Linux Gaming

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CannonGoBoom
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GE-Proton10-8 Released

Fix doom eternel black screen regression when using wine-wayland
disable steam input and xalia in wine-wayland (they dont work with it) and enable sdl instead
add protonfixes for Blade & Soul NEO -- game is now playable but there is a known crash in-game when you open the settings. Opening the settings at character select works fine
add protonfix to set SteamOS=1 for Wuthering Waves --game is now playable

Release GE-Proton10-8 Released · GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

Fix doom eternel black screen regression when using wine-wayland disable steam input and xalia in wine-wayland (they dont work with it) and enable sdl instead add protonfixes for Blade & Soul NEO -...

^GitHub

#linux_gaming

plabon via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

plabon
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Back in Action Netflix Review - Is It Worth Watching?

"Back in Action" is a generic action-comedy that largely wastes its talented cast, delivering predictable jokes and uninspired action sequences, though some find it a fun, light watch.
To Get More Detail Review Of This Movie Visit The Blog...

Reels Review: Back in Action Netflix Review - Is It Worth Watching?

^{reelsreviewcinemascopereviews.blogspot.com}

#memes

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NightOwl via World News

2 mesi fa • •

NightOwl
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'Lucrative' business deals help sustain Israel's Gaza campaign, UN expert says

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/lucrative-business-deals-help-sustain-israels-gaza-campaign-un-expert-says-2025-07-01/

#Worldnews

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davel

in reply to NightOwl • 2 mesi fa • •

Technology giants Alphabet (GOOGL.O), opens new tab, Amazon (AMZN.O), opens new tab, Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab, and IBM (IBM.N), opens new tab were named as "central to Israel's surveillance apparatus and the ongoing Gaza destruction."

First as tragedy, then as… also tragedy. IBM and the Holocaust

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation is a book by investigative journalist and historian Edwin Black which documents the strategic technology services rendered by US-based multinational corporation International Business Machines (IBM) and its German and other European subsidiaries for the government of Adolf Hitler from the beginning of the Third Reich through to the last day of the regime, at the end of World War II when the US and Germany were at war with each other.
Published in 2001, with numerous subsequent expanded editions, Black outlined the key role of IBM's technology in the Holocaust genocide committed by the German Nazi regime, by facilitating the regime's generation and tabulation of punched cards for national census data, military logistics, ghetto statistics, train traffic management, and concentration camp capacity.

book by investigative journalist Edwin Black

^{Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)}

Pro via Fediverse

2 mesi fa • •

Pro
2 mesi fa • •

What is happening on Programming.dev instance?

I started to notice that my posts get no interactions at all and that a lot of communities seem to be empty. At first I thought that it's just the effect of Lemme. ee shutting down, but after checking some of the communities from my current alt account I started to notice that .Dev does not pull the latest posts and does not federate my posts.

#fediverse

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Universal Monk

in reply to Pro • 2 mesi fa • •

I don't have an answer, but wanted to let you know I noticed the same thing.

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Mugmoor

in reply to Pro • 2 mesi fa • •

From what I can see that instance is just filled with people making crossposts from other instances.

bleistift2 via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

bleistift2
2 mesi fa • •

When you’re spending the whole evening thinking about the meme that will put your enemy, who’ll never see it, in his place

#memes

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Dessalines

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

Jerk store

- YouTube

Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.

^youtu.be

bleistift2 via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

bleistift2
2 mesi fa • •

I had to work with Excel today

#memes

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bleistift2 via Memes

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bleistift2
2 mesi fa • •

Excel having a stab at dates

#memes

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folekaule

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

You need another dragon for Excel and its two date systems.

Date systems in Excel - Microsoft Support

Learn about the 1900 and 1904 date systems and how to change the default if necessary.

^{support.microsoft.com}

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bleistift2

in reply to folekaule • 2 mesi fa • •

I thought about that, but decided to leave it as an exercise for the reader.

Don’t forget that Integer8 (the middle dragon) counts increments of 100 nanoseconds, because… reasons.

And don’t forget that 1900 still is a leap year in Excel.

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folekaule

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

I don't know what you're trying to do with Excel, but based on your posts, I can only wish you good luck. I'm happy to say that I have been able to outsource low level parsing to third party libraries for my needs so far. Well, except the interpreting semantic formatting part. That was on me.

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bleistift2

in reply to folekaule • 2 mesi fa • •

I have been able to outsource low level parsing to third party libraries

Hahaha!!!

Today I watched a Java server crash because a library decided it needed more than 3GB of heap space to read a 10MB file. That was after manually removed background colors from around 100,000 cells, which apparently caused the parser to create even more objects in its internal representation of the sheet.

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folekaule

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, I get it. I've had many libraries fail me in as many ways, which is why I consider it lucky to not have to implement my own. I work in .net these days, but there have been times where I had to just dig into the xml inside the xlsx and use xml tools. Those were mostly one-offs, thankfully.

Back when I did Java I had a frustrating experience with IBM's libxml causing our app to crash after several days due to a memory leak. I didn't have access to the production environment so it took me probably 3 weeks to find the cause and only after digging through a crash dump provided by the sysadmin. Not related, but you triggered my traumatic memory 😀

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bleistift2

in reply to folekaule • 2 mesi fa • •

And don’t forget that 1900 still is a leap year in Excel.

Thank you! Saying this finally made me realize why I always need to add/subtract one day when I’m trying to convert dates to and from the Excel representation. 🤦

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Sentient Loom

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

FYI the aliens who built the pyramids actually had that tech stack.

bleistift2 via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

bleistift2
2 mesi fa • •

Converting numbers is easy

Explanation (which might be wrong, since I’m writing this after banging my head against a wall. Please do correct me if I’m wrong):

In regular numbering systems (i.e., decimal), we exhaust all 10 digits (0–9) before we reach two-digit numbers. The first number to require 3 digits is 10². The first to use 4 is 10³, and so on.

In music intervals, there is no “0”. The interval c’–c’, for instance, is called a prime (1). This has the funny consequence that moving by a fifth and then by a fourth doesn’t land you on the ninth, but the octave (8). Moving by an octave and then another octave gets you to the 15th, not the 16th.

In Excel, shit hits the fan when you need to convert column names (A, B, C…) to numbers (0, 1, 2…). Since we use 26 characters as our ‘digits’, we’re in the hexavigesimal system. Knowing what I told you in the first paragraph, you’d expect the first double-digit column (AA) to be 26. And you’re right.

However, when do we need 3 digits? Which column is column AAA? A sane person would say it’s 26², so 676. Ha! No. Column number 676 is actually ZA. What gives? Well, we only ditch the zero for single digit numbers. All subsequent columns actually use 27 different characters, the ‘empty character’ being one of them. That’s where we get the ‘single digit’ – there actually is a second digit, only it’s empty.

So the column AAA actually has index 702, or 26×27. Which index does the column AAAA have? 26×27². The system of adding powers of the base works, only we changed bases midway through.

You can see the lopsidedness in the index lookup table (I’m not displaying all characters for brevity). Sane number systems have square tables. Excel’s is 26×27 (shown are 4×5).

#memes

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bleistift2

in reply to C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq • 2 mesi fa • •

The argument stays the same. Only every index gets incremented.

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C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq

in reply to bleistift2 • 2 mesi fa • •

But that's the reason there are 27 in the first set and 26 in every set after that. If you start from 1, it's 26 in every set, as you would expect, right?

kcweller via Privacy

2 mesi fa • •

kcweller
2 mesi fa • •

I can track my old lease car

So, I still receive telemetry information from my old lease car, a Kia e-Niro, to my app. A huge, HUGE privacy issue.

I made sure to remove my profile from the car before turning it in, and doing a factory reset of the car's software.

I can see everything, AC, whether there are doors open, odometer, and above all, location.

Also tried to see if I can turn off the AC, but any commands throw an error, so disabling my account on the car at least did something 😅

I had it in the Netherlands, it's in Poland, and it looks like it's on its way to Ukraine.

Kia, you need to check your security.

Edit:

Holy shit it gets real bad. I can lock and unlock the car.

#privacy

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KingGimpicus

in reply to kcweller • 2 mesi fa • •

Nissan does this too. I leased a new Kicks when they came out and HATED it. Seats were terrible, car was underpowered, and some jackass decided to program the cvt to "shift" because Nissan got complaints that the car was stuck in gear. Just learn how a CVT works.

Anyways, 4 years later, I still get emails about monthly maintenance work, tow alarms, and tracking updates. I never asked for them to begin with and I guess I'm stuck with it as a VW guy now.

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CrackedLinuxISO

in reply to kcweller • 2 mesi fa • •

You should report this to somewhere like 404 media

prealpinux via Attualità, Geopolitica e Satira

2 mesi fa • •

prealpinux
2 mesi fa • •

Elon Musk fonda il suo partito dopo il sondaggio su X: «Oggi nasce l'America Party per restituirvi la libertà »

L'intelligenza artificiale Grok è pure diventata un sondaggista per l'occasione. 😂

Secondo la sua intelligenza artificiale, Grok, la nuova formazione potrebbe assestarsi intorno al 5-10%, rompendo così il granitico bipolarismo americano.

Elon Musk fonda il suo partito dopo il sondaggio su X: «Oggi nasce l’America Party per restituirvi la libertà»

L’annuncio segue un sondaggio lanciato dal miliardario il 4 luglio, in cui il 65% degli americani si è detto favorevole alla nascita di una nuova formazione politica

^{Ugo Milano (Open)}

#attualità

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Expansum

in reply to prealpinux • 2 mesi fa • •

Appena ho visto che il pueblo ha votato a grande maggioranza per il partito mi sono chiesto se le votazioni fossero vere...

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fabriziob

Unknown parent • 2 mesi fa • •

Proprio come il partito dell'imprenditore ammanicato e buono a nulla e la politica della post-verità, in Italia anche su questo siamo avanti.

🍉 Albert 🍉 via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

🍉 Albert 🍉
2 mesi fa • •

1312 includes space ICE

#memes

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Saymaz

in reply to 🍉 Albert 🍉 • 2 mesi fa • •

Even my stupid teenage ass realized this movie series is a xenophobic copaganda. How is it that there are 40-year-olds out there who Stan this film?

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Bronstein_Tardigrade

in reply to 🍉 Albert 🍉 • 2 mesi fa • •

They tortured Jeebs to get information.

Dialectical Idealist via Memes

2 mesi fa • •

Dialectical Idealist
2 mesi fa • •

Capitalism is totally working 👍

#memes

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GnuLinuxDude

in reply to Dialectical Idealist • 2 mesi fa • •

It's working well to kill the one planet we have to live on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mau…

File:Mauna Loa CO2 monthly mean concentration.svg - Wikipedia

^{en.wikipedia.org}

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Web_Rand

in reply to Dialectical Idealist • 2 mesi fa • •

What do yellow, orange, and green represent?

comum via Privacy

2 mesi fa • •

comum
2 mesi fa • •

por qué elegí Tuta como mi servicio de correo electrónico

-precio justo
- empresa fiable, no venden tus datos
- la mejor opción si necesitas varios dominios o alias con varias bandejas de entrada
- servicio de calendario
- aplicación móvil multiplataforma, escritorio para Linux mantenido
-Me encanta el modo offline
-Privacidad
-utiliza y apoya el software libre

¿Más información? tuta.com/es

Tuta: Activa gratis la privacidad de tus correos electrónicos, calendarios y contactos | Tuta

Tuta garantiza la privacidad de tus datos de forma gratuita y sin publicidad. El cifrado quantum resistente hace de Tuta la mejor solución tecnológica segura para proteger tu privacidad.

^Tuta

#privacy

comum via Privacy

2 mesi fa • •

comum
2 mesi fa • •

Por qué elegimos Tuta

Tuta es un servicio de correo electrónico seguro con sede en Alemania. Lo que diferencia a Tutanota es su enfoque centrado en la privacidad. Esto significa que no tienen acceso a tus datos, y su servicio es uno de los más discretos de comunicación por correo electrónico.
Con una interfaz limpia y sencilla, libre de distracciones inútiles, Tuta es una opción válida para quienes buscan seguridad con privacidad. Es sencillo, funciona, ¡es Tuta!
Recupera tus datos, con el correo electrónico, el calendario y la agenda de contactos, encriptados, de Tuta.

más en tuta.com/es/email-comparison

Tuta: Activa gratis la privacidad de tus correos electrónicos, calendarios y contactos | Tuta

Tuta garantiza la privacidad de tus datos de forma gratuita y sin publicidad. El cifrado quantum resistente hace de Tuta la mejor solución tecnológica segura para proteger tu privacidad.

^Tuta

#privacy

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Pro via Fediverse

2 mesi fa • •

Pro
2 mesi fa • •

The effects of Lemm.ee shutdown can already be seen.

Source.

Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.

Lemmy Sites Status. Find a Lemmy server to sign up for, find one close to you!

^{lemmy.fediverse.observer}

#fediverse

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Ech

in reply to Pro • 2 mesi fa • •

This feels like bad correlation.

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irotsoma

in reply to Pro • 2 mesi fa • •

Seems like poor metrics. Need an average across time. Also, if that's the case even with that and with how easy it is for ordinary people to get an account on another server, does that mean we dumped a ton of bots?

ackthxbye via Linux Gaming

2 mesi fa • •

ackthxbye
2 mesi fa • •

Native version of Unreal Tournament 2004

I recently switched to Nobara and I'm currently trying to get everything to work. I'll be a bit spammy here looking for help, I hope that's ok.

Today I would like to install my retail version of Unreal Tournament 2004 that came on a DVD.
I got the installer for the native Linux version to run and copied over the latest patch. But when I try to run the game i get
./ut2004-bin-linux-amd64: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

I tried to install libstdc++ through dnf and got

Package "libstdc++-15.1.1-2.fc42.x86_64" is already installed.
Package "libstdc++-15.1.1-2.fc42.i686" is already installed.

In /root/lib I habe a libstdc++.so.6

Does ".so.5" mean I need version 5. How do I get the version Unreal Tournament 2004 wants?

Or would it be easier to use the Windows version through Wine?

edit: managed to get the native version to run: feddit.org/post/15075302/76663…

#linux_gaming

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qjkxbmwvz

in reply to ackthxbye • 2 mesi fa • •

My recollection is that the DVD included that library, but it's been a while...

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ackthxbye

in reply to qjkxbmwvz • 2 mesi fa • •

The DVD includes SDL and OpenAL, but not libstdc++

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ackthxbye

in reply to ackthxbye • 2 mesi fa • •

With the help of this forum post and a bit of persistence I managed to get it to work and I wanted to share how with future generations and/or my future self.

First Problem: libstdc++.so.5
dnf does not have libstdc++5 but apt does.
Solution: I installed Mint on a Virtual Machine ran sudo apt install libstdc++5 and then copied the library to my real machine into the system directory of UT2004. The game now starts. I know there must be a better way to solve this.

Second Problem: Game starts in a tiny window stuck in the top left corner
Alt+Enter switches it to a real window that makes the game useable, but setting a proper resolution and trying to make it fullscreen again crashes the game.
Solution: Open /home/user/.ut2004/System/UT2004.ini, go to the [SDLDrv.SDLClient] section and set all lines with viewport to the desired resolution.

Third Problem: No sound
UT2004 uses the obsolete OSS sound system.
Solution: Run the game under a compatibility wrapper. Debian and derivatives have aoss available. Fedora and derivatives have padsp. Thus run the game with padsp "./ut2004-bin-linux-amd64" and the sound works.

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jacksquat via Privacy

2 mesi fa • •

jacksquat
2 mesi fa • •

Anyone have experience with Zen Privacy app? (not the browser)

I stumbled upon this and it seems like a decent concept but I'm just wondering if anyone has used it or knows more about it.

Zen

Zen is a simple, free and efficient desktop application that helps you browse the internet and use your apps without annoying ads, trackers, or hidden threats.

^{zenprivacy.net}

#privacy

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cmgvd3lw

in reply to jacksquat • 2 mesi fa • •

Haven't heard until now

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Ulrich

in reply to jacksquat • 2 mesi fa • •

Looks like it probably replaces your VPN so, you probably shouldn't use that.

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slackness

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TLDR; risks far outweigh the benefits. See bottom of response for recommendations.

Should you use it?

It works by setting up a proxy that intercepts HTTP requests from all applications
During the first run, Zen will prompt you to install a root certificate

Zen will be able to decrypt and analyze your entire traffic. And then it'll encrypt what it allows before letting it leave/enter the device. This means even if you trust Zen, that one certificate is the only thing standing between your traffic staying encrypted. It gets compromised, you're compromised.

Do not trust an app with your entire traffic, ever. Even if its not malicious there are going to be bugs, vulnerabilities, leaks, etc.

Moreover, something being open source does not mean its audited by people who know what they're doing - neither for hidden malicious code or mistakes. I did not see any formal audits being mentioned in the readme.

grapheneos.org/faq#ad-blocking…

What can you use instead?

You should instead use ublock in the browser and system wide DNS blocking on your device. You can use an adblocking public DNS server (e.g. Mullvad) or setup pihole locally. You do not have to self host pihole, you can just set it up on your computer and use on that device only which would be the same thing as using Zen on that device.

Note that using a public, blocking DNS will block less domains because they have to make sure it does not break anything for anyone but it will make you less fingerprintable. OTOH, using a custom blocklist you can get the most out of blocking but you're probably the only person blocking that specific subset of domains which will make you more fingerprintable. Take your poison.

What about content filtering on desktop/mobile apps DNS blocking cannot solve

DNS blocking merely stops the application from accessing certain domains. It won't be able to block malicious content served from the same domain as the content you actually need (e.g. YouTube serves both ads and videos from the same domain so you can't block their ads without blocking the video itself).

You should not install applications you don't trust on your device and use them on the browser as much as you can or use and alternative FOSS frontend (e.g. Reddit, Discord, YouTube etc.)

But some applications might be circumventing system DNS

Yes, there's nothing stopping an application from doing its own DNS resolution or using hardcoded static IPs. You should not run applications trying to be actively malicious in this way. Neither Zen, nor anything else will be able to protect you from untrusted code doing suspicious things on your machine.

GrapheneOS Frequently Asked Questions

Answers to frequently asked questions about GrapheneOS.

^GrapheneOS

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jacksquat

in reply to slackness • 2 mesi fa • •

Nice, thank you for the reply. That's kind of how I was feeling about it but wasn't sure if I was missing something about it that was highly regarded.

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Zerush

in reply to jacksquat • 2 mesi fa • •

Interesting, but I already use the Portmaster, which do the same and more (also FOSS). It offers also an SPN (improved VPN) as option, it's a paid service.
Anyway it's always good to use this and similar apps on the PC, in Mobile maybe InVizible Pro (F-Droid version please).

Safing Portmaster - Easy Privacy

Portmaster is a free and open-source application that puts you back in charge over all your computer's network connections. Increase your privacy and security. Get peace of mind.

^safing.io

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ignJojo

in reply to jacksquat • 2 mesi fa • •

Works fine for me. I mainly installed it to block ads on apps like Medal.

git via Technology

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git
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I would still download a car if I could. 🚗

cross-posted from: sopuli.xyz/post/29947730

Gork

2025-07-05 19:39:46

I would still download a car if I could. 🚗

#technology

wildsir via Privacy

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wildsir
2 mesi fa • •

Best YouTube Frontend for iOS

Do you guys have any recommendations for more privacy respecting YouTube frontend for iOS? YouTube Lite Plus has been good so far but I'm not sure how effective that no tracking thing is. I've also seen on Reddit Yattee and BluePlayer. Anything else? I can sideload it if it's not avaliable in the App Store.
It would be nice if it also had features like SponsorBlock.

#privacy

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hietsu

in reply to wildsir • 2 mesi fa • •

Orion Browser on iOS/iPadOS is compatible with (some, not all) Firefox/Chrome addons. Add SponsorBlock for YouTube, uBlock Origin and Video Background Play Fix from addons.mozilla.org and use the YouTube website as is?

Used to run my own Invidious instance I used with Yattee but it got banned and then for some reason ate shit and died completely.

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nameisnotimportant

in reply to hietsu • 2 mesi fa • •

add-ons on Orion

It's great to know that they are working better now, last time I tried almost none was functionnal and it was quite a pain to install / uninstall / switch source (Firefox / Chrome version) in the hopes of it finally working. I’ll have a look, since then I’ve been using Brave + piHole and it was more or less decent.

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wildsir

in reply to hietsu • 2 mesi fa • •

Damn, this Orion I’m hearing about seems really promising

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lock

in reply to hietsu • 2 mesi fa • •

Reminder that Orion is not open source, but it is made by a reputable company Kagi. They will make it open source soon though.

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tjoa

in reply to wildsir • 2 mesi fa • •

I use the Wipr ad block extension and then just safari. I can’t bare YouTube ads.

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AerynOS Ported its Infrastructure Tooling to Rust

cross-posted from: piefed.social/post/992183

Mid Year Update

Mid Year Update

^AerynOS

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just_another_person

in reply to malfisya • 2 mesi fa • •

Lol. This guy responded only because Phoronix called him out on the allow releases yesterday. I do not think this person can make good on their previous promises of an accelerated development schedule, unfortunately.

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malfisya

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

To be clear, this blogpost has been in the works before that article came out and due to release this week. When Phoronix article came out, it was bad timing and Phoronix could just reach out to the devs asking why there is no update. Instead, they releaesed an article based of "looking at github contribution" charts.

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just_another_person

in reply to malfisya • 2 mesi fa • •

The link literally had today's date...

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jplatte

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

Because when you release a blog post, you set the publish date to when you started writing, rather than the day it goes out? What?

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jplatte

in reply to just_another_person • 2 mesi fa • •

"This guy" that Phoronix "called out" isn't even who wrote the blog post you're commenting on.

Track_Shovel via memes

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Track_Shovel
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The horrors

#memes

essebi via Musica Agorà

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Counting Crows - Underwater Sunshine (2012)

A quattro anni dal loro ultimo disco "Saturday Nights and Sunday Mornings", i Counting Crows ritornano con un nuovo lavoro e questa volta è un disco di cover, spiazzando ancora una volta i loro fan. Ad Adam Duritz & co. infatti, una cosa su cui non si discute è la libertà di "scelta", in poche parole fanno quello che gli pare senza filtri e costrizioni di sorta... Leggi e ascolta...

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2025-07-06 08:19:13

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Counting Crows - Underwater Sunshine (2012)

A quattro anni dal loro ultimo disco “Saturday Nights and Sunday Mornings”, i Counting Crows ritornano con un nuovo lavoro e questa volta è un disco di cover, spiazzando ancora una volta i loro fan. Ad Adam Duritz & co. infatti, una cosa su cui non si discute è la libertà di “scelta”, in poche parole fanno quello che gli pare senza filtri e costrizioni di sorta. Questa loro “scelta” gli permette di spaziare non solo con dischi variegati; dal vivo, in studio, di cover ma soprattutto con i tempi da loro scelti in base alle loro esigenze e non quelli dettati dalle Majors di turno. Dimostrazione è la scelta dei quindici brani che non appartengono ad un repertorio di canzoni famose o di facile ascolto ma scelte tra quelle che più piacevano a loro. Come risponde Duritz in una intervista: “Io sono un grande credente di una semplice regola, che qui non ci sono regole”. Insomma un gruppo “indipendente” nelle scelte e nelle esecuzioni della serie “prendere o lasciare”... artesuono.blogspot.com/2014/08…
Ascolta: album.link/i/1169968863
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Counting Crows - Underwater Sunshine (2012)
di Silvano Bottaro (or What We Did On Our Summer Vacation) A quattro anni dal loro ultimo disco "Saturday Nights and Sunday Mo...
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#musica

Sivecano via Linux

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Sivecano
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I like gentoo 😁

based on
gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/blender

Gentoo Git Repositories

Browse the Gentoo Git repositories

^{gitweb.gentoo.org}

#linux

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Sivecano

in reply to Sivecano • 2 mesi fa • •

I've become a rust hater because of this

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0x0

in reply to zagaberoo • 2 mesi fa • •

🤯
Well... kinda takes the edge off... i'll stick to compiling.

ElectricWaterfall via Privacy

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Challenges meeting new people without an Instagram account

I’ve been trying to meet new friends and new people to hang out with so have been going to a lot of social events.

I noticed that everyone seems to ask for my instagram account and when I say I don’t have one that connection kind of dies, and it feels too personal to ask for someone number when I just met them.

I don’t want to create an instagram because of the privacy invasions of meta but I also don’t want to feel left out when trying to make new connections. Anyone have any advice?

#privacy

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wildbus8979

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Unfortunately I have also found it to be a huge impediment to making friends with other millennials who aren't techie. I sort of left a crowd that was always on xmpp and signal and found myself rather ostracized. Things are changing slowly and most of them are now on Signal and with the usernames it's easier to exchange contact without relying on phone numbers that feel like a bigger commitment. But unfortunately passed explaining why you won't support Meta, and why alternatives like Signal are good there isn't much to do.

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CrocodilloBombardino

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

It sucks, but just ask for numbers or emails

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ISOmorph

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Man I'm glad I got done with the "I want to meet new people" part of my life before social platforms became inevitable. As far as I know nowadays it's either friends or privacy. Can't have both

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lock

in reply to ISOmorph • 2 mesi fa • •

Opsec requires sacrifices. Friends ruin opsec.

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krolden

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Privacy is subjective. Use it but dont use it for things you don't want Facebook to know about. Don't use it on your phone. Don't use it on a computer with things you care about. Keep it in a container tab in your browser but don't keep it open all the time.

It's kind of a pain but you can definitely be mindful and only give meta crumbs where others are giving them truckloads of data.

Sadly there is a lot of good content on Instagram

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velanox

in reply to krolden • 2 mesi fa • •

Don't use it on your phone

There's also the option of using Private Space (Android 15+) or its multiple clones in manufacturer OSes. It effectively creates a new user profile which can be deactivated at will. The new user profile also has no access to any data from the main profile that can't already be controlled by permissions, like the app list. It has its own instance of Play Services, so AFAIK it shouldn't be linkable to the main profile. It's the best middle-ground I've found this far if the app needs to be installed in one way or the other.

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hansolo

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

An IG account isn't a phone number or email, and I think it's weird that young people treat it like it is.

Just say you don't do social media, and if they can't respect that, it's a quick test as to if they're your people or not.

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TranquilTurbulence

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

It can also be a good conversation starter. Some people genuinely don't know or care about the social media corporations spying on us. You can have some interesting conversations with them.

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hitmyspot

in reply to TranquilTurbulence • 2 mesi fa • •

Or come across as a weirdo, conspiracy theory, antisocial, tech obsessive nerd.

I mean, it's not inaccurate, but not maybe how to present initially when you meet someone.

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technomad

in reply to hitmyspot • 2 mesi fa • •

Definitely second date material

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TranquilTurbulence

in reply to hitmyspot • 2 mesi fa • •

It’s a bit risky, for sure. You just need to express your point in a calm and professional manner. Appeal to common sense or ethics, stick with the facts, and you should be able to find common ground with most people. You’ll be fine as long as you don’t use aggressive language, or go into crazy conspiracies.

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hitmyspot

in reply to TranquilTurbulence • 2 mesi fa • •

And is it really a conspiracy when it's true?

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TranquilTurbulence

in reply to hitmyspot • 2 mesi fa • •

No. Also some crazy things like project 2025 are entirely public, so those aren’t conspiracies either. When discussing scary things like that, you can just point to the facts and calmly explain what they mean.

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hansolo

in reply to TranquilTurbulence • 2 mesi fa • •

Depends entirely on the audience. The problem with privacy issues is that privacy nihilism sets on quickly, and people with short attention spans and no intrinsic idea of how much they're being ripped off quickly take refuge in the comfort of a no-friction status quo.

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TranquilTurbulence

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, friction and convenience need to be balanced. Most people don’t even think about where they should draw the line. Sparking conversation about it can be useful, because once you’ve thought about it a little bit, you can make a conscious decision to sacrifice your data for convenience purposes… or slide down the rabbit hole and become a privacy hermit. Either way, making a conscious decision is better than going with the flow.

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ElectricWaterfall

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

That is a good point, when I say I don’t have any social media more than half the time people respect it, almost like I’m saying I’m X years sober from alcohol.

But I still feel like I’m tempted to make an account to avoid this additional social friction. Maybe I won’t use it for anything except getting people’s contact info in these situations. I’m not sure I’m a bit torn.

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BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Maybe I won’t use it for anything except getting people’s contact info in these situations.

This is exactly what I did. I posted like three pics of my dog, and put it on private and never really use it except for that purpose.

I have never used any social media before or had an account on anything else, but something changed and people started treating instagram like a phone number, which is weird to me but sans-shrug that's the way it is now.

Don't feel like you must do this, but just wanted to say you're not the only person to do no social media, but felt the need to open an instagram

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hansolo

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Stay strong! Just because people call to you from their walled garden doesn't mean you need to lock yourself in there as well.

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loomy

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

but that's a lie bc op obviously does mastodon

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hansolo

in reply to loomy • 2 mesi fa • •

For the kind of people that use IG handles as a way to keep in contact, do you truly think you can say "Oh, I only have Mastadon" and even have them know what you're talking about?

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loomy

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

yes, bc they are bring the mammoth back

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utopiah

in reply to hansolo • 2 mesi fa • •

quick test as to if they’re your people or not

Absolutely... it's like when during job interview the recruiter ask if you code on the weekend. Some people treat that like the absolute worst question ever. Yes, in most cases I would argue it's to probe if you can be abused by working over time for free... but maybe you are into that or rather you do have found a way to make it work, e.g. NOT work during some weekdays. The point is that the question itself is a way to discover BOTH ways, for them AND for you. It is perfectly fine to stop right there and then if any of you is now aware that it's a show stopper because of whatever difference. The entire purpose of dating or interviews is to engage in a more involving relationship ONLY if it's worth it for both. It's a discovery phase, not a "let's close the sale" phase.

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0x0

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

if you code on the weekend.

Sure.

For us?

Get fucked.

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utopiah

in reply to 0x0 • 2 mesi fa • •

I mean again my initial reaction would be that indeed ... BUT it depends. If they genuinely offer say 3x rate, it's on demand from MY side (not the client), double vacations, etc then maybe. Again it has to be something that's actually interesting.

Sadly this is not even .001% the case, usually companies consider the weekend an extension of the week and such cases, they can absolutely go get fucked.

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QuazarOmega

in reply to utopiah • 2 mesi fa • •

when during job interview the recruiter ask if you code on the weekend

I think it's more to see if you're actually passionate about what you do and you don't "just" do it for work, which definitely is a bit of a twisted view, when on average you'll already be spending 40 hours a week doing that, but I think people tend to make this sort of evaluation, because people who love programming so much to also do it on their free time will usually be better, since they simply have more experience than those who only do what they're assigned to do

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utopiah

in reply to QuazarOmega • 2 mesi fa • •

Indeed, IMHO what's important here is precisely WHY the question is asked, namely is it to evaluate agency, passion as a proxy for skills potentially, or the opportunity to exploit.

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balsoft

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

If it's such an obstacle for social life, I'd just give in and make an account. Given the alternative is "exchanging phone numbers" (with the intent to text or call, presumably) I'd say Instagram is no worse privacy-wise - both offer absolutely no privacy protection. If a phone number is required to register (I don't know if it is), I'd get a bootleg sim specifically for it. I would treat all communications on any proprietary platform (even 1-on-1) as though they are happening in public (Twitter-style). Avoid using apps if at all possible as they have more access to your device. If that's not possible, at least do not give those apps any permissions, however hard they are trying to eek them out of you. Do not use it for anything but chatting with your acquaintances - merely looking at your feed, even without any explicit interactions like opening a post, gives Meta a lot of data about you.

If the connection moves on from "acquaintance" to "friendship", perhaps try pushing them towards a better platform - I recommend Matrix as it is federated (unlike Signal), and has pretty nice clients/UX nowadays (unlike Tox and XMPP), and is e2e-encrypted (unlike almost everything else).

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MangoPenguin

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

I would just make an IG account if it's being a large obstacle, you probably don't have to install the app as you can do most things through the web browser.

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lock

in reply to MangoPenguin • 2 mesi fa • •

Never install an app like Instagram on your phone, It will know your device even if you uninstall the app or use a different IP.

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solrize

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Back when Craigslist had personals ads I answered one saying that I had 10 laptop computers and no facebook account, and I actually got a couple of dates that way. Not everyone wants corporate media.

I've been chatting (non romantically) with someone I met on another forum, who is about the same way. No facebook or reddit or anything, not even Lemmy, just a few niche forums.

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JaggedRobotPubes

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Are you meeting people 15 years ago?? We've known everything mark zuckerberg touches is trying to kill you for money for a long time.

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Ulrich

in reply to JaggedRobotPubes • 2 mesi fa • •

Not helpful.

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troglodyte_mignon

in reply to JaggedRobotPubes • 2 mesi fa • •

I assure you most people don’t know that.

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Ulrich

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

This is, IMO, the biggest problem with FB and IG. They've replaced personal connections. I know some women who say they won't date anyone without an IG account.

and it feels too personal to ask for someone number when I just met them

Someone's number is literally just a series of digits. Social Media has their fuckin' life's story. I'd say it's far less personal.

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obsidianfoxxy7870

in reply to Ulrich • 2 mesi fa • •

I think it's mainly two things:
- people fear reverse phone numbers look up tools more then the equivalent tools for social media.
- It's viewed as less replaceable then just blocking somone on social media

I don't really agree with either of these but it is what seems to be common.

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lock

in reply to obsidianfoxxy7870 • 2 mesi fa • •

Get a new phone number and never sign it up on anything. It is very easy to replace a phone number. If you have had a phone number for multiple years and signed it up multiple times and still using it, it is time to change it now.

Blocking somebody on social media doesn't really mean anything, they still have your account, can still see your posts, comments, and even liked videos if they use another account. You would have to delete your account if some random person has your personal Instagram that you don't want anybody knowing, even if it is private.

They both have there downsides though.

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dadarobot

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

yeah i feel you. I'm in a band, so instagram is basically a necessity for promotion and communication. getting the word out about shows, other bands will message me for gigs etc

just try to use it a little as possible, and try to lock it down as much as possible in the os. you can do alot in the android app settings.

basically treat it as you would having a conversation near a security camera.

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loomy

in reply to dadarobot • 2 mesi fa • •

The band TOOL literally never did any interviews before (or after) the internet.

Worked well for them.

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dadarobot

in reply to loomy • 2 mesi fa • •

ok, and i'll just buy a house to build wealth like my dad suggested. and dress better than the manager if i want a job. and stop eating avocado toast.

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loomy

in reply to dadarobot • 2 mesi fa • •

yeah avacado toast isn't even good for you. better off with potatos

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0x0

in reply to loomy • 2 mesi fa • •

They've been on a few interviews and now have social media.

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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]

in reply to dadarobot • 2 mesi fa • •

If you’re in dadabots point me at the place to download the full 12hrs of no soul.

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dadarobot

in reply to stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] • 2 mesi fa • •

im not.

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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Anyone have any advice?

Yes: recognize what you’re trying to accomplish and change your actions.

Privacy requires shutting people out of your life. Meeting new people requires letting people into your life.

If people expect that the first “gate” into your life is your social media then meet that expectation. Have a social media presence. Post shit that you want people to see on it.

If you’re afraid of letting the companies that operate social media see your life, examine why. It may be that you’re perfectly fine with the trade off of a limited hang out in exchange for looking normal. Most people are.

It doesn’t have to be instagram. You could have a snapchat or a tiktok or whatever.

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chaoticnumber

in reply to stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] • 2 mesi fa • •

I disagree. You are normal if you have social media and not if you don't?

Dunno man, if people need IG to interact with you and you are not comfortable with it, maybe they are not your people, you know?

Why should one go into uncomfortable territory for others, people should interact from positions of comfort, otherwise its a stretch for one side and just a bad time all round.

One thing is for sure @ElectricWaterfall@lemmy.zip , you will have a harder time, make less connections, but I'm pretty sure the ones you will make, will be solid.

One word of advice as a fellow non-socialmedia-person. If you want to meet new people, make sure you are in the same place at a certain time on certain days. That way people know where you might be during certain hours and that is also a way to make connections. Just be sure you like said place.

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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]

in reply to chaoticnumber • 2 mesi fa • •

Social media is literally normal.

It has gone through a process called normalization in order to become an expected part of social interaction. The op even said that people expect them to have a particular type of account and they feel like not having one excludes them from having more friends.

Yes, you are normal if you have a social media account and abnormal if you don’t.

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lock

in reply to stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] • 2 mesi fa • •

I agree with you. Social media has been normalized and you are not fit in society if you don't have any at all.

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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]

in reply to lock • 2 mesi fa • •

The ol’ sarcasm detectors’ flashing red, ringing the bell and pouring black smoke out of all the panel joints but yes: if you want to fit into society it’s important to have social media.

If you wanted to live a private life in the 1970s, would it be better to descend from your cabin hundreds of miles from civilization with a wild mane of shaggy hair wearing your homemade leather suit or with an unstylish but kempt haircut, nondescript jeans and shirt and military duffel bag looking like any other of the myriad characters wandering the roads at the time?

Obviously you’d want the latter. Part of privacy is blending in so that you don’t arouse interest.

Nowadays if you want to be a private person and still interact in society, like the op, you need to have all the trappings of a someone who doesn't raise alarm bells. That includes, especially as your age drops, social media.

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MonkderVierte

in reply to stupid_asshole69 [none/use name] • 2 mesi fa • •

Social media is literally normal.

That's your bubble, not mine and not generally. Social media profiles is something 2010's here, maybe some still have it. What's in now is loose communities like Lemmy or Tiktok and chat apps for irl friends.

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stupid_asshole69 [none/use name]

in reply to MonkderVierte • 2 mesi fa • •

It’s also the ops bubble. My replies are generally directed at the op and their post.

I will also point to the requirement though, that us visa applicants give up social media account names or be subject to denial as evidence that it’s considered normal.

If it wasn’t considered normal to have social media then the cbp wouldn’t be so quick to implement that process.

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terminhell

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

What about email? Just create a new one just for this stuff. Go back to giving out just an email. Everyone has one of those too and it's not as 'archaic' as a phone#

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lock

in reply to terminhell • 2 mesi fa • •

How old are you? Nobody uses email for regular chat

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BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]

in reply to lock • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm kind of an old and email was never used for regular chat at like any time lol

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jjjalljs

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Is this an age thing? I'm about 40 and I never had instagram, barely used facebook, and didn't use any others really. I don't think I've ever had a problem where someone backed out because I didn't have instagram. But I also don't have a big group of casual friends, and maybe that would be harder.

Discord sucks, but I've noticed a lot of social groups use it. A couple meetups I go to all use it for communication. Maybe that's more bearable than instagram?

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0x0

in reply to jjjalljs • 2 mesi fa • •

Is this an age thing?

Yup.
An newer humans go for tiktok.

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troglodyte_mignon

in reply to jjjalljs • 2 mesi fa • •

I’m in my mid-thirties, and while I didn’t have the Instagram/Whatsapp problem as a late teen / young adult, the pressure to use Facebook was similar. When I decided to close my account, it was almost a social death. My friends organised all their outings there and didn’t want to bother reaching out to me. And many of those who did go out of their way to include me occasionally made passive-agressive remarks about how I was being ridiculous and making their life difficult.

That said, I would have loved being able to just say “I don’t have Insta” when men were bothering me in the street. 😀 But I’m sure that wouldn’t stop most of them even now.

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Ilandar

in reply to troglodyte_mignon • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm a similar age and it was the same for me when I first deactivated my Facebook account, and still is with Messenger. After a few months of vainly trying to get people to switch to something else (like Signal), I just gave up and started using Messenger again. For me, the self-imposed social isolation was not worth the privacy gains.

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monovergent

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Don't worry, I handed out my Instagram to some people who requested it and those connections fizzled out just as easily.

Could be down to me only ever checking it on a designated laptop once a week, but in my opinion, if it comes down to an Instagram account and regular app access, can't even exchange SMS numbers to text, then it's already a tenuous connection.

Funny enough, I didn't even make my own Instagram account. My friend really wanted me to be on Instagram so he went ahead, made it under my name, and handed me the keys. You probably can't do this nowadays due to security checks, unless you're Meta making a shadow profile kinda like my friend did for me. I'm just sitting on the shadow profile that would exist anyway, trying to contribute as little as possible.

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KuroiKaze

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Gonna be real with you, if you're in the US and wanna connect with pretty ladies you pretty much have to have insta or messenger. If they are devout apple heads they might wanna do iMessage but as I don't use apple products I can't speak to that. I personally don't want anyone to have my phone number. I have signal, messenger, whatsapp, Kik, WeChat, and discord because I travel a lot and I have contacts on all of them. People prefer social media so they can remember you, your interests, things you say publicly, and use that to help decide if they wanna hang.

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Autonomous User

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Find a way to use Instagram to drive them to another app, like this: lemmy.world/post/21620691

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hexagonwin

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

same, i just say I don't do instagram and tell them my local whatsapp equivalent's id or phone number. I've tried using instagram a few times but it can't be used anonymously at all.

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Libb

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Anyone have any advice?

Ask them for their number, and see how it goes? Worst case, they will say 'no', end of the story. Maybe the will ask why you don't have IG and that will be the start of an interesting conversation.
Try to meet different kind of people? I mean it seriously. I know a lot of people around me who have IG/Facebook/X and so on but at the same time none of them make it a requirement to use it.
Use a second phone/number for that crap content only? I barely use my 'real' phone (I have nothing installed on it beside what I'm required to use) still I do own a second phone just so I can easily share a number with all the services and various craps that ask for one. It's a phone I never answer to, despite it being constantly harassed by callers. And that peace of mind (my real number is almost spam free) only costs me the 2€/month (plus the phone, I purchased used). You should be able to do something similar for social networks: have a second phone without anything personal on it, just with IG.
Accept that you're doomed to use IG because it's with those 'IG people' and no others you want to spend your time with? I like to spend time with people reading books, it's kinda expected we indeed read books. Would I not like to read, I would not spend as much time with them.

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FireIced

in reply to Libb • 2 mesi fa • •

2€/month

🇫🇷❓

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Libb

in reply to FireIced • 2 mesi fa • •

I suppose you're asking if I'm French? Yes. And, yes, it's a French operator (Bouygues Mobile)

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FireIced

in reply to Libb • 2 mesi fa • •

Yea we're pretty much the only country that has cheap mobile plans like that

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troglodyte_mignon

in reply to FireIced • 2 mesi fa • •

0€/month for me. 😀

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FireIced

in reply to troglodyte_mignon • 2 mesi fa • •

How 👀

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troglodyte_mignon

in reply to FireIced • 2 mesi fa • •

It’s a 2 € plan with a 2 € discount because the mobile operator is also my home internet provider. So 0 €/month.

And it’s my one and only mobile number, not an extra one for crap content. The plan only includes 50 MB of (4G) data per month, and I have to pay extra if I go over it, so barring emergencies I’m only using wifi — but I don’t mind not having access to internet everywhere and all the time, I find that healthier in a way.

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Thebigguy

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

How is having somebody’s phone number more personal than having access to an account where you can see all the photos they take and shit? I’d just ask for their number.

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Novaling

in reply to Thebigguy • 2 mesi fa • •

It's just a perception thing we have, a phone number DOES feel more personal to me, even if most people's Instagram accounts are even more detailed. In my case, I literally never posted anything on Instagram, so there was nothing to gather about me besides what posts I liked.

Plus some people my interpret asking for a phone number as wanting to date them or smth (although the same could be said for any messaging service tbh).

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Thebigguy

in reply to Novaling • 2 mesi fa • •

I feel like a phone number is is a lot less personal than giving some one a photo album of myself with picture of me and all the people I know and where somebody can see all the things I care about. Goes to show just how crazy people have gotten when it comes to privacy. With modern phones you can always block the person as well 🤷‍♂️

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Interstellar_1

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

What I've done since Instagram is practically necessary for networking at my university, is using shelter for android I have Instagram Revanced in a work profile, and I've opted out from everything possible in the app, which is easy but not simple. I also have my account set to private and no posts, although maybe I'll need some at some point idk. I also have trackercontrol to block trackers, and I use the Facebook Container add-on for Firefox as well as Ublock Origin.

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NahMarcas

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Make a pixelfed, people want to know you we ask for IG

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0x0

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

If they shun you for not having instragram, find better social circles.

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irotsoma

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

Phone number can be problematic to share in some areas of the world, so it does depend on where you are, but email shouldn't be an issue in general. So easy to get an additional, private email address and use both at the same time.

I also don't have most mainstream social media anymore but have noticed a significant drop in people asking for it these days. Might just be my location in a city with a lot of progressive, tech savvy people, though.

I mostly use phone number and/or Signal these days.

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Novaling

Unknown parent • 2 mesi fa • •

Am Gen Z, and currently in college. Clearly am on Fediverse, and I was never a fan of using IG (only got it cause my middle school friends made me since COVID was happening) and I have completely deactivated my account as of last winter. I have met several people at my college who don't use Instagram for various reasons, and while my other friend is a little disappointed that she can't message them on insta, at the end of the day, we live and move on.

At my college a lot of clubs use GroupMe (owned by Microsoft unfortunately) and we have an official Discord Hub that a lot of clubs are on also. So there's two different methods of communication that aren't Insta that are common on my campus. Some of my friends do have Signal in fact (even my Instagram loving friend), but because more of them don't we unfortunately don't use Signal, even when I beg my one friend who has it. She says 'it sucks and who uses it", but I've never really had the chance to use it to judge her statement as true or not.

Anyway, yeah, you could do a bunch of crazy shit and make fake accounts on Insta to have superficial conversations with people who won't give you the time of day for having an app, or you could just not. It's not that hard to find better friends/people to hang out with, and if you really make a connection with them then they should be happy with any form of communication you offer. Not all Gen Z are adamant Instagram defenders, some even hate it for various reasons (Suckerberg, being data stalkers, promoting bigotry, promoting mental health disorders, etc.)

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Seefra 1

Unknown parent • 2 mesi fa • •

Just an anecdote, but every time I try to create an account on Instagram I get automatically banned after account creation before even login-in for the first time.

If I recal they then ask me for a copy of my ID to confirm my name is real (which it isn't).

I have no idea how they know, I've tried literally with different residential IPs, different emails and even on brand new devices. On my Instagram user friend's house.

Maybe it's just ~~bad~~ good luck, who knows. In don't need Instagram anyway, just an interesting fact.

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pulsewidth

Unknown parent • 2 mesi fa • •

You're on the 'privacy' community of an open source and federated alternative social media system designed to avoid corporate control and surveillance capitalism - and you're like "wtf everyone here is very privacy focussed and Linux nerds".

Do you complain about sand at the beach?

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jenesaisquoi

Unknown parent • 2 mesi fa • •

You mean to say unicode empty character (zero width space, probably). ASCII doesn't have one.

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Leviathan

in reply to ElectricWaterfall • 2 mesi fa • •

I've gone back to just texting and switched over to signal for band chats and group stuff, and so far the only person who doesn't like it is a dick bag who claims to be an anarchist but refuses to live his life without using a fascist propaganda machine to socialize.

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Fedizen

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chobeat

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Futurism.com is garbage. I think it's quite a distorted narrative: the vetting is extremely invasive, with regular face scans and passport verifications at sign up. Then maybe a lot of shit was still going through, but this narrative suggests that these companies are not at the forefront of extremely invasive worker surveillance, which is demonstrably false given the wave of class actions and privacy violation proceedings they are subject to.

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Researching making the switch from Windows on my main PC and I have questions.

This PC is basically my life, I use it for work (freelance business), entertainment, and to self host a server so I'm hesitant. I have a handful of questions for now while I look into it more:

I'd prefer not to dual boo, but it might be the safest way to start? If I dual boot, get used to Linux and (hopefully) get everything I need working, can I then go from dual boot to erasing the Windows partition and recombining so I then only have Linux installed and can keep the work and programs I already installed on Linux?
I do voiceover work, music production, and digital art/photography. Anyone else here do all this and what programs would you recommened to replace Audition, Photoshop, and Cubase?

--2.1. Regarding music production, has anyone successfully used vst files from Windows on Linux?

The drives for my server are NTFS. Does anyone have experience with this format on Linux (I use Emby)?
My bread and butter right now is voice acting so I NEED everything to play nice. I've read there might be some issues with drivers for my hardware, namely Focusrite Scarlett 4i4 and Behringer UV1. Anyone have any experience with this?

EDIT: Wow that's a lot of responses. I'd like to respond to each but I'm a bit overwhelmed with all the info haha. I think I'm gonna grab an old external USB drive and live boot from there and test things out. Thanks to everyone, I've got a tonne to mull over now. Appreciate it!

#linux

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alexcleac

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I’d prefer not to dual boo, but it might be the safest way to start? If I dual boot, get used to Linux and (hopefully) get everything I need working, can I then go from dual boot to erasing the Windows partition and recombining so I then only have Linux installed and can keep the work and programs I already installed on Linux?

My personal experience says: try dualbooting first, because it will make you to have a working machine continuously. Taking into account that all Linux-based OS behave vastly differently from MS Windows, it is possible to break things, when learning a new way of doing things.

The drives for my server are NTFS. Does anyone have experience with this format on Linux (I use Emby)?

I've been using an external NTFS drive for compatibility and big files storage: works as charm. The worst case scenario is you will need to install an ntfs-3g driver, although it is usually included with the distro.

As for production: I don't have much experience with that, although I can recommend you looking around tooling that solves the problem. You will need quite a bit of patience and trying things, because switching platform will definitely require you to make some shifts in usual processes you have now. Don't expect things to be obvious 100% replacement: unfortunately lots of people have this expectation, and get frustrated.

As for hardware, just looking the model up on the internet with adding "linux", or "ubuntu", or "fedora" should do the trick of figuring out if it will work.

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dun_fionn

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Quick response:

Yes, what you suggest is possible, but just be careful to backup your data. Burn the Gparted ISO onto a USB and then boot from it. You will then be able to use this tool to delete the Win partition and resize the Linux one.
For complete peace of mind in case something goes wrong, I suggest using CloneZilla to create an image of the drive for backup purposes before messing around with the partition. Of course, you will then need a spare internal or external drive of the same size, or larger, onto which you will save the image...
Grub will easily cope when the Windows partition is removed, but I also suggest installing Refind, which provides a nice interface at boot-time to choose which system to use and also recognizes any changes when partitions are added or removed. You should find the package in the repositories of most distros.
I cannot help with this.
Linux can handle NTFS. On my Linux server I used Samba to share files on NTFS drives over the network because those drives were removed from my Windows PC at the time . Most Linux distros will handle Samba shares through the CIFS-utils package.
I read that there is no great performance loss between sharing Linux's EXT file system over a NFS network share from a Linux box , and NTFS over a Samba network share from a Linux box, but there is one potential issue as I see it: Linux distros do not have the tools to check NTFS drives for errors. Therefore, if a powercut was to happen, then you may then have to remove the NTFS drives from your Linux machine and go find a Windows machine to check the disks and correct any errors. I coped with this for a few years before deciding to create new EXT4 partitions and copy the data across from the NTFS partitions. I recommend that you employ a similar migration strategy.
I cannot help with this.

Good luck! The learning curve is steep and somewhat mindblowing, but very satisfying too - and you'll maybe catch the Linux server admin bug (disease?) and want to go deeper into that rabbit hole....

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ijhoo

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Dual boot should be ok. If and when you decide to fully switch, I'd say it's better to do a reinstall. Messing with partitions always comes with disclaimers. A bit advanced topic if you are interested: when you resize partition usually data needs to be moved, depending what you do with it, so it will wear your ssd; also you should be aware that you must install windows first, Linux second because windows doesn't really play well with others and be sure NOT to format EFI partition when installing Linux.

You have alternatives to dual boot: VMs. Run Linux on bare metal, then boot up a VM if you need something only windows can provide. Gnome has a new VM tool incoming.

No idea for audio, but Photoshop has alternative, gimp. Wether you like it or not, it's another story (people I know really really hate that one). For digital art there is a tool called Krita that runs on kde. People really enjoy using it.
NTFS has one thing that Linux doesn't really like - it is case insensitive. Linux normally works with case sensitive filesystems. There was recently a rant by the Linux overlord about case insensitive filesystems, so you might want to stay clear of it. It's ok to use it on a thumb drive though.

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Tim_Bisley

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I would dual boot first. I'm doing that myself at the moment with Pop OS. I disconnected my existing drives leaving just the drive I'd install Linux to. Ran the installer, then reconnected. I hit f12 at boot to select startup. I did this to avoid dealing with grub or messing with the windows bootloader. I haven't had good experiences with it in the past.

My biggest problem with trying Linux at the moment is I have a USB audio mixer that Linux refuses to enable. I can tell it sees it, it just won't list it as a selectable audio device or send audio through to it. So I have no sound.

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ElectricAirship

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

There is software for all your uses on linux, but I would start by using those apps on your current setup to get used to the workflow.

Changing from windows to linux can be really tough but it can be made a lot easier if you are already using programs that work on linux before you switch.

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ijhoo

in reply to ElectricAirship • 2 mesi fa • •

This is the key to a painless transition.

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malfisya

in reply to ElectricAirship • 2 mesi fa • •

👆 This is my advice as well. Switch all your apps to the one that is available on Linux. After you get used to it, then switch the OS. No need to do both at the same time.

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jlow (he / him)

in reply to malfisya • 2 mesi fa • •

I learned Inkscape / Scribus / Krita (which was not easy after 15+ years hooked on Adobe BS) while still on Windoge, had used Linux before so the switch was really painless.

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mystic-macaroni

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I suggest having two separate hard drives rather than dual booting

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CarrotsHaveEars

in reply to mystic-macaroni • 2 mesi fa • •

Since OP uses it for freelance business, self-hosting and stuff, I recommend even one step further, by a new computer and try to replicate all workflows there. Don't fuck with the old one until one day OP suddenly noticed that he hasn't booted his old computer for one year, then he can sell it as parts.

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Jack_Burton

in reply to CarrotsHaveEars • 2 mesi fa • •

That's the problem, I'm freelance and barely scraping by haha. I'd love to grab something to try out but it ain't gonna happen right now. My laptop is a Samsung galaxy book3 ultra which I slapped Mint on a while back and had issues and went back with a cracked windows 11. Apparently linux and the galaxy book line don't play well. But, I'm very tempted to try another distro on it first, like bazzite. Probably be the smart thing before touching my main PC.

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Eugenia

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

That's a rather expensive laptop you got there... I personally bought a used Thinkpad x280 for $160, and I run Linux on there. Another option is to get an small computer (sbc) with at least 8 gb of ram, if you already have a monitor.

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Libra00

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Definitely dual boot, especially if you're new to linux, and double-especially if this is what you use for work. You are likely to run into situations where shit just doesn't work and you need a fallback environment to operate in while you figure out what that's about and how to fix it. Likewise, you will run into software that runs badly on linux or just doesn't run at all even under wine/VM, and it will be nice to have that fallback for when you don't have time to fuck around and figure out what the problem is and need to just get shit done. If things go well you will find very quickly that you don't need it and can probably go ahead and delete it after a little bit, but at first you want that lifeboat. Mine stuck around for 2 weeks, but I only even used it the first couple days and the rest was 'maybe I'll run into some weird situation...' and just not needing it. As for merging the partitions and such, I believe that's possible, but you definitely want to make sure you have backups before you try it just in case. There are many good cloud backup services that have linux native clients (I use filen.io myself.)
I've never even touched music software so I have no idea what's out there. I do however know about a great website called alternativeto.net that lets you find alternatives to existing software, and you can select your platform to limit it only to linux software. For example, here's the entry for linux-native replacements for Cubase (it was the obscure one from my perspective, wanted to see if they actually had anything, turns out they do.)
Yes, NTFS generally works mostly fine on linux, though there are a couple of weird cases where it causes problems (one I ran into was adding games I had installed on an NTFS drive for windows to Steam on linux, it was very wonky.) After nuking my windows boot drive I went through and copied all the stuff off my NTFS drives and reformatted them to btrfs before putting the data back on them to ensure that everything would work smoothly, but if you're just using it for regular file access you should be fine. The one caveat I would add is I would probably not recommend editing large projects in files on NTFS drives in linux if you can avoid it, but poke around google and see if you can find people reporting issues with your specific software/use-case to see if there are any problems with it.
Drivers for weird hardware are potentially an issue. Looks like there is a FOSS driver for the Scarlett, didn't see anything at first glance for the Behringer, but also again I have no idea what I'm looking at here so this is something you're going to have to do some research on. I have had some weirdness with audio in general on linux, things cutting out unexpectedly, stuff like that, but that's strictly games/discord/that sort of thing, so it might be worth looking for stuff other people have posted about doing heavy audio work on linux to get an idea for what to expect. I'm sure it can be made to work, but it might require more fiddling than you expect.

Either way, welcome to the party. 😀

Support for Focusrite Scarlett audio interfaces on Linux

If you’re into music creation, chances are you’ve heard of Focusrite Scarletts—they’re practically a staple in the industry. But here’s the kicker: while they’re adored by many, official support from Focusrite is limited to Windows and Mac users.

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flatbield

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Actually the safest thing is probably to choose a main system and run the other in a VM like with VirtualBox. For you, you could just install VirtualBox on Windows then Linux inside of a VirtualBox VM. Windows does have a builtin Virtualization solution too you may be able to use, but I have personally never done that. Keep in mind too that VMs are not as performant as bare metal. For video probably NO, for images fine, for audio maybe but you'll have to see if you get the real-time timing you need in a VM. Good way to play in any case. 2nd best if you have a workstation, not a laptop, you could put in a hot mount SATA drive enclosure, and just swap in the drive you want and get full bear metal performance. Dual boot takes some tech skill. Be sure to back everything up if you do that. Should do that anyway before fiddling. Also if you use bitlocker and secure boot make sure you have all your recovery keys and know how to work with your bios settings too.

Maybe I am missing something, not sure why you care about NTFS. If this is a separate computer you don't really care about that, just the sharing protocol (SMB for example). If it is on the main box, then you'd probably convert this to Ext4 or something similar. No reason to stick with NTFS with Linux. There are a lot of great FS options on linux plus BTRFS, LVM, or RAID to if you want redundancy.

Regarding apps. The alternativeto site is great. Linux has a bunch of audio and photo software. If your a pro, you may not find any of it sufficient. Especially a lot of people cannot do without Photoshop. The common quoted photo programs are GIMP and Darktable. There are many other photo and image programs. Common audio program is Audacity. Again, there are many others. Looks like some handle vst but I have no personal experience.

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obsoleteacct

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

"This PC is basically my life" screams leave well enough alone. I wouldn't even set up a dual boot on a machine I depended on to make my living. If you do, make sure you've got everything backed up before you start. Nothing should go wrong, but that's a very different statement than nothing will go wrong.

If you want to start using linux I'd recommend you buy a cheap second computer and start there. You can safely experiment as much as you like without risking your professional set up.

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Bob Smith

in reply to obsoleteacct • 2 mesi fa • •

This seems like a solid take. Never fuck with your bread and butter.

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jollyroberts

in reply to obsoleteacct • 2 mesi fa • •

Agreed. A Virtual Machine is also an option. That's how I got started, running fedora vms on my windows laptop ten+ years ago.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble

in reply to jollyroberts • 2 mesi fa • •

It is an option to play around. But for audio production you really don't want to be trying to use a VM unless you're fiddling with USB passthrough (which is a pain). Audio latency on Windows is bad enough, adding Linux's on top is awful.

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jollyroberts

in reply to fuckwit_mcbumcrumble • 2 mesi fa • •

Fair. I don't do audio stuff so I'll take your word for it.

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cmnybo

in reply to obsoleteacct • 2 mesi fa • •

Dual booting on separate drives is safe, especially if you unplug the windows drive while installing Linux so you can't accidentally mix them up. Just don't mess with the windows drive from Linux. It's probably encrypted if you're running windows 11 anyways.

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folkrav

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Audition, Photoshop and Cubase you’ll probably have the hardest time to truly replace. Even more if you rely on third party plugins for either of those.

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Domi

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I don't have a Behringer UV1 but I do have an UMC404HD and an UMC202HD. Both work flawlessly on Linux out of the box.

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ABetterTomorrow

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

lol dual boo

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rolandtb303

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm an ex-Windows user and have been using Linux for about 7-ish years now.

If you can handle some downtime, the possibility of some plugins breaking and some time getting used to your new system, you can give it a shot. Otherwise, what I'd more or less recommend is getting a spare computer and just trying Linux out on that. That way you can keep your work computer for critical work while you mess around on the spare.

I checked Cubase on WineHQ, and sadly it won't run via WINE from what I see, so you will either have to look for a different DAW (which will require extra time re-learning everything) or just going with a spare).

If you do plan on biting the bullet and going full Linux on your work machine, here's a couple observations:

The only Windows DAW i've tried on Linux is FL Studio running through WINE. I do have REAPER for aligning audio tracks (it's very good at that) but I haven't really used that enough to become proficient with it. There's also Bitwig, which I haven't used (I checked the price on that when i was kinda on the fence about getting it and oh boy is it expensive! around $800 with the annual upgrade or smth lol).

From my experience, VSTs via WINE (in my case, running through FL Studio 24.2.1), is quite good, although there are is a good bit of jank that comes with it (a few 32-bit VSTs don't work, it's a bit of a gamble honestly) and there are bound to be a couple potential breakages with WINE updates (like what happened today as I'm writing this, I updated WINE and idk if it's just a residual thing but the GUIs on GVST plugins don't render anymore, I can still access the parameters via hovering and looking at the hints panel in FL Studio, but it is a bit cumbersome trying to operate VSTs blindly, especially when they contain things such as waveforms/levels).

Other than that FL Studio's been running like a charm, very very close to (if not native), except for stuff like the Diagnostic thingy not working at all (told you there's jank).

As for replacements, you will need to learn new programs, one which may not contain all the features that you would want (muscle memory can also be a bit of a pain). I'd start out with maybe trying out Audacity and GiMP/Krita on Windows and try learning and getting used to the workflow of each on your existing Windows installation before swapping over. I was using FOSS programs like GiMP/Audacity beforehand so the transition was easy once I swapped over. FL in WINE back then was a little more finnicky but most of it still worked so it kept me going.

If you're still thinking about wiping Windows off of there and going full Linux, good luck, my friend.

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Thebigguy

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Hey just want to say bitwig is on sale atm and costs 299€ from 399€. It’s not 800€.
I think I still have an 8 track key I can give some one if they dm me.

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Broken

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm going to second the comment to leave well enough alone. Do NOT mess with your machine if its what makes you money.

I know you commented you don't have funds for a second computer to test with but that really is the best step for you.

This is especially regarding some of your other details. You are not in for a quick and smooth transition (sorry to say).

VSTs are "sort of" supported on Linux. Basically they're not and there are work arounds that I haven't done using wine for compatibility.

I run a virtual machine for the windows software I am reliant on. So basically my Photoshop etc I use Affinity in a windows VM and it works fine. Depending if you get intensive with your work you might need a lot of resources or experience lag. But for the most part it should be fine.
Look into virt-manager for your VM if you want to go that route.

Besides the VST issue, audio recording will probably give you additiinal problems. I haven't delved into it because he rabbit hole went too deep for me, but from what I've read there tends to be issues with audio in VMs (tremendous lag for one).

But all that being said, there should be a solution for all of your needs. It probably won't be straight forward though given your use cases. I don't want to sound negative with my warnings, I just want to make sure you don't shoot yourself in the foot with your work.

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Teppichbrand

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

2: I'm a Bitwig fan-boy. Buy this great piece of software, have tons of fun and never use third party VSTs again. Sound design, modulate everything, wow! You can run many Windows VSTs using yabridge. Reaper might be a good choice for a DAW as well, it's a little more classic and has plugins and scripts for everything.

Buy | Bitwig

Buy Bitwig Studio, Producer, or Essentials. Upgrade or renew your license and find the version that's right for you.

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vala

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

Ok so I'll just focus on dual booting since there are other thorough replys here.

I really recommend that you DO dual boot but only in a specific way.

When people say "Dual Boot", this can mean two very different things.

A common way to dual boot is to have windows and Linux exist on the same drive by partitioning the drive and installing a boot manager. I strongly advise against this. It's not worth the risk and pain.

Just install linux on a totally new drive and select it as the boot drive from bios. Leave you windows drive untouched.

Linux is much better than it ever has been. There is a very good chance it can do everything you want. But, especially as someone running a business, there will be times when you just need to get something done and will want to fall back to what you know. These times often lead to people giving up and rolling back to windows in a panic.

Just leave yourself a way to instantly and effortlessly fall back into windows as needed and eventually you will end up doing that less and less. Until you don't do it at all and the windows drive gets wiped for more Linux storage.

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Crozekiel

in reply to vala • 2 mesi fa • •

I was going to suggest something similar. Basically, unplug the windows drive entirely, install linux on a dedicated drive. Then plug them both in and use the bios to decide which one to use. Basically don't have them interact at all. That way, worst comes to worst, you can boot into windows exactly as it is.

If this was a personal machine you use for recreation, I would fully support just dropping windows entirely. But no matter how much I want to support a fellow Linux convert, if you make your livelihood from this computer, I wouldn't risk any downtime that costs you money.

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AndrewZabar

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

I think I'm gonna grab an old external USB drive and live boot from there and test things out

Just keep in mind, in such a case, that your performance will be quite reduced due to limits on I/O. When you have Linux on a real drive - especially a striped RAID, the system is blazing fast. It’s a substantial difference you should keep in mind when evaluating.

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Gnugit

in reply to Jack_Burton • 2 mesi fa • •

You could acquire a pretty cheap PC for Linux it runs on a potato. Try an electrical scrap heap nearby that you can fossick from or a friend with an old, unused system in storage (even a cheap $20 retro PC from your local marketplace?) to acquire an old retro system. You might not even need a new screen depending what connections your existing screens/TV has and if you could use a cheap adapter and cable from the thrift store.

Linux runs on basically any retro PC and laptop excluding some annoying wifi chips that need planning before the install if you don't have ethernet. Some really old tech may also require specific distributions that still offer support too.

Machines with a 32bit CPU you will want to confirm beforehand if your chosen distribution still offers a supported 32bit install image and retro PC's with obscure expansion cards that perhaps were never supported. This is likely moving into vintage collectors territory though and you would have to be pretty lucky now to find a machine like that super cheap and working.

wolf via Linux

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wolf
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Solved: Any desktop environment or WM with configurable placing/opening of windows?

When using TMUX, it is easy to create a script, which opens TMUX, configures the screens/panes of TMUX and open/run programs.

I like this a lot.

My baseline would be something like, when I login, some applications are executed and their windows automatically placed on a virtual desktop.

For example:

Open Firefox and put it on virtual desktop 1
Open Terminal in fullscreen and put it on virtual desktop 2
Open VSCode and put it on virtual desktop 3

Something like that is possible with sway, in the environment I am working, sway is not able to run XWayland applications w/o crashing.

Is there any way to have this functionality on Gnome, Mate, Xfce?

Even better would be something to open several windows and arrange them automatically for different work tasks/projects I am working on. Any ideas?

Edit: Solved! Thanks for the input. Auto Move Windows extension for Gnome solves my problem.

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databender

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Used to use fluxbox and it did this; fantastic feature.

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to wolf • 2 mesi fa • •

Inst this simply KDEs activities?

comum via Fediverse

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comum
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Do What You Love

Do what you love, and you’ll never work a day in your life.

My dad used to say this to me. He didn’t come up with it of course. Searching for the source, I see attribution to Marc Anthony. How it came to be a 70-80 year old man was quoting a singer to me I’d bet money he’d never heard, I’ll never know. Maybe he didn’t either.

The basic idea behind the quote is that what you’re doing won’t feel like work if it’s something you love doing anyway. I mean, think of the thing you want to be doing right now instead of reading this post. Your favorite thing in the world. Now, along comes some idiot who offers to pay you to do that very thing! How can you possibly say no?

There’s a darker aspect to this quote that I don’t think people consider though. If you take the thing you love and do that for work, you’re turning what you love into a job. This is a trap that I’ve fallen into. Multiple times.

Do What You Love

Mostly The Lonely Howls Of Mike Baying His Ideological Purity At The Moon

^mikestone.me

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Flamekebab

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Seems like an odd place to post this but I'll bite.

Even the things I love doing involve work. If I want to do some sewing I still need to tidy up before and afterwards, for example, or spend time pinning stuff (and then taping up the numerous stab wounds). It's a bit reductive.

Instead I try to get paid for things that require minimal emotional "work" from me - that is to say, things that don't leave me sapped of energy to work on my passion projects. I don't dislike what I am paid to do but I'm not super enthused about it. That means that when I'm done working I've still got the creative juice to work on stuff I actually want to do.

If instead I have to spend my working days pushing myself through stuff then I tend to be left with nothing in the tank, even if I still have time left at the end of the day. Instead I get paid to do something I'm good at but that doesn't usually involve extended periods of advanced problem solving or frequent uphill battles of effort (there's always a bit, of course, it's not a perfect solution!). That isn't to say what I do is easy, but much of the stuff involved is stuff I've been doing for twenty years so is comparatively easy for me.

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iii

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

If you take the thing you love and do that for work, you’re turning what you love into a job. This is a trap that I’ve fallen into. Multiple times.

Exactly. It gets corrupted by the 10% shittiest customers, with their shitty understanding of others and the world, who end up taking 90% of your time.

I like a good fried egg on sunday morning. How would you like fried eggs every day, we will pay you for it? Oh and the egg comes with poo from the dirtiest most stinky morons we can find. Lucky you.

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Vegafjord eo

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Yes, that's a trap. When you make the thing you love into a job. You blur the lines of whether it still is meaningful or something you do because you love it. You are no longer guided the meaningful, but whether your bloodgivers finds it valuable. In smaller and larger ways your path is steered away from the meaningful.

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ter_maxima

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Hopefully you love enough different things that you can do some of them for work, and some of them as hobbies.

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Universal Monk

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

I see attribution to Marc Anthony

It was around long, long before Marc Anthony. Also, you are being way too cynical. It's really just saying that if ya can, you should try to make a living out of something you are passionate about.

Yes, there are people who love what they do for a living so much, that they never wanna quit doing it. I am one of them. I own my own company.

Think of musicians, or actors. Some of them legit love what they are doing and never wanna stop doing it. My grandfather owned an Antique store. His entire life was that store and even when he was in the hospital, he was trying to get back to his Antique shop ASAP. My father was same way. And it's probably why I own my own company.

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New Linux Kernel Drama: Torvalds Drops Bcachefs Support After Clash

Things have taken a bad turn for Bcachefs as Linux supremo Linus Torvalds is not happy with their objections.

New Linux Kernel Drama: Torvalds Drops Bcachefs Support After Clash

^{Sourav Rudra (It's FOSS News)}

#linux

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wolf

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Ah, sorry to read - I like the idea of Bcachefs and would have been happy to have it ready for production eventually.

OTOH it seems the recent years I read more about the drama about Bcachefs commits to the kernel, than about any technical parts of Bcachefs.

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MyNameIsRichard

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Good for him. It's a reminder that the rules apply to everybody.

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thingsiplay

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Can't wait for a new Brodie-video on this topic. Stay tuned for some comments.

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ferret

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

“no features in RCs” is a very basic rule, this was a forgone conclusion. If these features were so integral to data integrity, he should have kept bcachefs out of the kernel until they were ready.

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LeFantome

in reply to ferret • 2 mesi fa • •

There is no reason that Kent Overstreet needed to do this.

I love bcachefs but I am so angry at him for making this happen.

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nous

in reply to LeFantome • 2 mesi fa • •

There is in this case, and why Linus did accept the patch in the end. Previous cases less so though which is why Linus is so pissed at this one.

The reason for this new feature is to help fix data loss on users systems - which is a fine line between a bug and a new feature really. There is precedent for this type on thing in RC releases from other filesystems as well. So the issue in this instance is a lot less black and white.

That doesn't excuse previous behaviour though.

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LeFantome

in reply to nous • 2 mesi fa • •

Honestly, not even in this case (especially given the history). Kent has a kernel tree people can pull if they need to. If it is an emergency, point people there.

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thann

in reply to nous • 2 mesi fa • •

The problem is that kent is a bullshitter and acted like he doesnt get what a feature freeze is.
If he cant communicate with linus as to why his patch is actually bugfix then he cant contribute to the kernel.

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tehn00bi

in reply to ferret • 2 mesi fa • •

Sort of the ultimate fuck around and find out.

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Croquette

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

My uneducated kernel take. Flexibility is acceptable and desirable in small projects or low impact projects.

When the majority of the internet and a good chunk of PC are dependent on your project, predictability and stability is much more important than flexibility.

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LeFantome

in reply to Croquette • 2 mesi fa • •

Reading all the comments (between Kent and Linux), the problem is that the bcachefs dev thinks that his project (the filesystem) is the critically important one and that the Linux kernel needs to bend to his will.

I am a bcachefs user but it is pretty damn obvious to me that the production Linux kernel is more important than an experimental filesystem.

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Laser

in reply to LeFantome • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, this one is on Kent... again.

He posted on Patreon that there'll be a DKMS module. In my opinion, this should have been the option from the very beginning and upstreaming at a later point in time. It would have avoided a lot of drama. And now bcachefs is kind of tainted. The only way I ever see it back in mainline is there is an independent downstream of Kent's kernel that has no connection to him whatsoever.

Shame because I had very good experience with the filesystem. Definitely better than when btrfs was new. But Linus is unfortunately right; Kent is unable to follow agreed collaboration rules.

Unfortunate situation that could have been avoided entirely. Though I don't want to be too harsh on Kent. He spent a lot of time and work on bcachefs and it's his most important project. As such, he's more passionate about all of this. But the same can be said for Linus and the kernel on the other side.

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Mwa

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Good I didn't choose bcachefs

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ikidd

in reply to Mwa • 2 mesi fa • •

It's an interesting filesystem, but you shouldn't use it at this point unless you know what the hell you're doing. You'll need to be able to notice, report and help resolve bugs, and under no circumstances use it for production or where you can't afford to lose some or all of the data on the partition.

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Mwa

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

True

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UpperBroccoli

in reply to ikidd • 2 mesi fa • •

...which makes Overstreet's argument for urgency even weirder.

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James R Kirk

in reply to comum • 2 mesi fa • •

Anyone else here actively put off by Linux drama and headlines like "Torvalds Drops support After Clash!"

EDIT: New rule?

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MartianSands

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

This is a non-issue, being over-reported by people looking for clicks. A minor technical matter being handled by the person ultimately responsible for handling such things

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patatahooligan

in reply to MartianSands • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah for sure there's ton of clickbait, but this isn't "a minor technical matter". The news here isn't the clash over whether the patch should be accepted in the RC branch, but the fact that Linus said he wants to remove bcachefs from the kernel tree.

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MartianSands

in reply to patatahooligan • 2 mesi fa • •

An experimental capability being kicked out of the kernel, so that it has to settle for being a kernel module or custom forks of the kernel, is absolutely a minor matter

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stewi

in reply to MartianSands • 2 mesi fa • •

Filesystems are incredibly antiquated, and while I don't agree with Kent's attitude, it is very important in the long run that filesystems catch back up.

As it stands just about any enterprise system you can poke a stick at is rolling their own customised file storage system, with a traditional filesystem typically being a misshapen dead weight sitting somewhere in the middle of it - existing because it's the only thing the kernel can integrate with.

It is pretty important that this trend reverses, and bcachefs was a big step in the right direction. Unfortunate that Kent is the way he is.

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dontbelievethis

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

Put off in what way?

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James R Kirk

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Please don't sealion me.

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dontbelievethis

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

Don't you dare turn this around on me.

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James R Kirk

in reply to dontbelievethis • 2 mesi fa • •

It's annoying to be treated that way isn't it?

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dontbelievethis

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

Annoying in the sense that I don't understand what you are trying to say.

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Dae

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm really glad Torvalds is the kind of person to flip articles like this off and carry on with his day and just not be affected by it at all. When the time comes, I hope whoever carries the torch is just as well.

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James R Kirk

in reply to Dae • 2 mesi fa • •

That's a good point, I have no doubt Linux would not be in the position it is if he were more sensitive to it.

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Dae

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

At the very least, it would be far more of a circus, as the follow-up articles would read "LINUX KERNEL CREATOR LINUS TORVALDS MAKES DEVESTATING REPLY TO FOSS DRAMA!"

But yeah, I think shit like that would just make devs want to go work for a company, because at least when they make a shitty closed sourced, exploitive program people are mad at the company, not them, specifically. They don't have to deal with this shit.

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sfera

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

I don't see any drama. It's just people working together, having different priorities yet still getting things done. Some friction is to be expected.

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James R Kirk

in reply to sfera • 2 mesi fa • •

This is literally literally a drama article

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sfera

in reply to James R Kirk • 2 mesi fa • •

Ok, my mistake. I didn't express myself correctly. I wasn't referring to the article but to the communication between developers.

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Elon Musk’s ‘America’ party could focus on a few pivotal congressional seats

The new US political party that Elon Musk has boasted about bankrolling could initially focus on a handful of attainable House and Senate seats while striving to be the decisive vote on major issues amid the thin margins in Congress.
Tesla and SpaceX’s multibillionaire CEO mused about that approach on Friday in a post on X, the social media platform he owns, as he continued feuding with Donald Trump over the spending bill that the president has signed into law. On Saturday, without immediately elaborating, the former Trump adviser announced on X that he had created the so-called America party.
“One way to execute on this would be to laser-focus on just 2 or 3 Senate seats and 8 to 10 House districts,” wrote Musk, who is the world’s richest person and oversaw brutal cuts to the federal government after Trump’s second presidency began in January. “Given the razor-thin legislative margins, that would be enough to serve as the deciding vote on contentious laws, ensuring they serve the true will of the people.”

Ross Perot already tried this gambit. Billions of dollars can't buy a political party starting from scratch. Musk has always been more successful as an investor who turns around and claims to be the founder.

Not to mention, Fox News will no doubt find any snippet they can to tear him down after being the golden boy for a while.

I point this out because I think he can only pull from non-MAGA conservatives, and I've no idea what his approval rating is amongst them. The rest of us know he's a drug-addled Nazi.

A phased start makes logical sense instead of trying to build out a 50-state network Day 1. But I see no way to critical mass, even at the congressional district level, for a win as opposed to being a spoiler.

Elon Musk’s proposed new political party could focus on a few pivotal congressional seats

Billionaire said his ‘America party’ would try to turn attainable House and Senate seats to decide major issues

^{Ramon Antonio Vargas (The Guardian)}

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Bad issues with system load on Mint Desktop

Hi!. Currently running Linux Mint 22.1, but i suspect it's not strictly a distro issue. This laptop was running VERY well but was outdated, running Mint 19.3, some things were unable to be installed because the system libraries were old (didn't expect Calibre to be one of them, figures), so i updated all the way to that moment's current version which was Mint 21.3. All of a sudden it felt like the laptop got downgraded two whole computer tech generations. As soon as i ask it to do something mildly complicated that made it break no sweat on Mint 19, it gets VERY slow, all the cores start running at max, system load increases, until it finishes doing whatever it was doing several minutes later, something between a couple of minutes when lucky, to 20 or more. Typically what triggers the issue is something on the browser (what i use the most on the computer is browser tabs and lots of terminals) but not exclusively. Thought it was the browser but replicated it on an empty Firefox profile, and has triggered with simpler stuff like the Discord client. Been trying to find the issue for a while trying to avoid a full reinstall, no luck so far.

If i were to describe how it feels, it's like there was a bottleneck on tasks being done by the system, as soon as you ask it to do something mildly complex it chokes on it and tasks accumulate. No idea if it's some kind of kernel misconfiguration, if it's some hardware incompatibility, or something else entirely, checking the changelogs of Mint all the way between 19.3 and 21.3 showed nothing i could pin this onto (or at least nothing i could notice).

The nuclear option would be a brand new blank install but I'd MUCH rather avoid that if possible, made the comfortable but now unwise choice of a single partition for everything (instead of a separate /home and whatnot as i used to do) so reinstallation would wipe it completely, if i must then i must but much rather not.

Would welcome VERY much ideas on stuff to check or try.

Edit: It's got an NVME drive, which seems to be healthy as far as i can see

Edit: When it happens it doesn't seem to matter how much RAM is free, seen it happen with only 8 of the 32Gb of RAM in use and zero swap

Edit: Found a great way to describe how it feels like: Have you done heavy video encoding on a computer that's adequate for the task but not more than that, and noticed how everything in it stalls heavily, even if there's plenty of RAM free and the computer feels like it's giving everything to that task only? Pretty much that, but for nearly everything even moderately heavy

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HayadSont

in reply to jherazob • 2 mesi fa • •

I wish you the best of luck at/with whatever you end up doing! May your system be protected from bit rot, config drift and/or problems caused by hidden state!

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jherazob

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Thanks!

kboy101222 via Linux

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Advice on migrating from Ubuntu server to another server OS

Hi all. I'm currently running a home server using Ubuntu OS, but I'd like to try and explore other options for operating systems to better my skills with linux/unix.

Currently I'm considering switching to Fedora server (though feedback is welcome) because I've been running it as my daily OS for a few months now and I quite like it. I'm also looking at Debian server because that's what my old professor used and he did nothing but speak its praises.

Only issue is I'm concerned about data loss from moving the installation. Currently, the server is setup to run several Docker images running my programs. While moving over the images shouldn't be difficult whatsoever, I'm afraid my storage setup might not be so easy. Currently, it's two 4TB hard drives running in a logical volume. I'd love to simply be able to move over all the files to a backup drive, but I don't have anywhere I can store >5TB of files as a backup.

I googled around, but I couldn't find too many guides on migrating logical volumes. The one or two I did find were most definitely written for someone with far more linux knowledge than I have as a relative noob, so any advice would be extremely welcome!

#linux

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just_another_person

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Fedora is great if you want a faster rolling release and you're already familiar with it.

Debian is great if you want a slower release schedule but stable LTS.

Two different use-cases, but both great options.

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harsh3466

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Can you detail the storage and is drives and mounts as well as the lvm structure? Knowing that will help people give useful advice.

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kboy101222

in reply to harsh3466 • 2 mesi fa • •

Currently it's 2 4TB harddrives setup to look like a single 8TB logical volume. Might have to do some poking around if you want more, just setting that up required a ton of googling on my end!

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harsh3466

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Okay, more details will be required, but here's what I'm thinking will work.

One of the benefits of an LVM is its pretty easy to resize it.

The outline of what you can do is this (and we can refine the steps with more details)

Right now you've got your 8TB physical volume, and within that, you should have your volume group, and within that volume group, you should have one or more logical volums that are mounted for your system. The idea is to resize the existing logical volume by shrinking it, creating addition space within the volume group that can be used to create a new logical volume. Then, that new logical volume can be used to install Fedora.

Depending on how much free space you have on the entire physical volume, you could potentially dual boot Fedora and Ubuntu. Roughly speaking, the steps would look like this:

WARNING: These steps are not exhaustive because I don't know the full details of your system. This is not meant to be a guide for you to immediately implement and follow, but to help get you down the right path DO NOT FOLLOW THESE STEPS WITHOUT FIRST FULLY UNDERSTANDING HOW THIS WILL APPLY TO YOUR UNIQUE SYSTEM SETUP.

Download a Linux ISO of your choice. Ubuntu, Fedora, it doesn't really matter. This one is going to be used to live boot on your server so you can make adjustments to your lvm without having the lvm mounted.
Boot into the live usb
Once you get to the desktop environment of the live usb dismiss any installation prompts, etc and open a terminal
Install the logical volume tools with sudo whatever-the-package-manager-install-command-is lvm2
If your volume group is encrypted (typically with LUKS), you'll need to decrypt it to make sizing changes to the lvm(s) in the volume group. You can decrypt it with:
1. cryptsetup open /dev/your-disk-here name-of-your-volume-group
2. For example, on my system if I were doing this it would be cryptsetup open /dev/nvme0n1p2 server (I very creatively named my server volume group server)
Once you can access your volume group, you can use the df command to see how much space is free in your volume group. The full command you'll want to run is:
1. sudo df -h
2. This command will list all mounted disks along with filesystem usage data. With this you should be able to determine how much free space you have in your volume group.
Once you've determined how much free space you have, you can decide how big you want to make your new logical volume. For example, if your current usage is 6TB out of the 8TB total, you could resize the current logical volume down to 7TB, and then create a new logical volume that's 1TB in size for the Fedora install
You will do the resize using the lvm2 tools installed. The command to shrink the logical volume looks like this:
1. sudo lvreduce --resizefs --size -1TB /dev/your-volume-group/the-lvm-name
Once you've shrunk the lvm, You can create your new lvm

IMPORTANT NOTES:

If at all possible, you should really back up the data. If you don't have any kind of backups in place, you're risking losing all of your data, not just in doing this operation, but in general.
If you want to dual boot, things are more complicated because of where your /boot exists

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kboy101222

in reply to harsh3466 • 2 mesi fa • •

Thanks a ton for the very detailed reply!

First off, do you know a good command I could run to give you a better idea of my system's LV setup?

Secondly, I was hoping to fully migrate the data on my ubuntu server to a fedora or debian server rather than leaving it on the ubuntu server

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harsh3466

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Happy to help!

lsblk will give exactly the info needed. Copy the output of lsblk and paste it into a reply and that will be perfect. Or a screenshot. Whatever's easier for you

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kboy101222

in reply to harsh3466 • 2 mesi fa • •

Sorry this took a while, I got distracted. Trying to also learn Dart cause why not.

Here's the output of lsblk

NAME                      MAJ:MIN RM  SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
sda                         8:0    0  3.6T  0 disk 
├─sda1                      8:1    0    1G  0 part /boot/efi
├─sda2                      8:2    0    2G  0 part /boot
└─sda3                      8:3    0  3.6T  0 part 
  └─ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv 252:0    0  7.3T  0 lvm  /
sdb                         8:16   0  3.6T  0 disk 
└─ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv   252:0    0  7.3T  0 lvm  /

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harsh3466

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Perfect. So you've got separate /boot and /boot/efi partitions, which means dual booting will be much easier if you want to do that.

The ubuntu--vg-ubuntu-lv is the logical volume you'll want to resize. So now we need to see how much space is available on the volume. To get that, run the command sudo df -h and paste that output into a comment.

From there we can figure out how much space you have and how you might want to resize the volume to prep for a new install.

What is challenging about this is that your data is under your root (/) mount, which is also the ubuntu os. If in the end you want to entirely remove ubuntu, it'll be a little trickier than if your data was in a separate logical volume that you mounted into your root system during boot.

For example many people have a separate logical volume for /home, which makes it easier to switch distros while preserving your home folder with all of your user data, config files, etc...

But that's getting a little ahead of ourselves. Start with sudo df -h for the filesystem usage info and we can go from there.

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kboy101222

in reply to harsh3466 • 2 mesi fa • •

Sorry, I've been running around like a headless chicken today! Here's the output of sudo df -h

Filesystem                         Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs                              3.2G  5.9M  3.2G   1% /run
efivarfs                           128K   17K  107K  14% /sys/firmware/efi/efivars
/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv  7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /
tmpfs                               16G     0   16G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs                              5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
/dev/sda2                          2.0G  193M  1.6G  11% /boot
/dev/sda1                          1.1G  6.2M  1.1G   1% /boot/efi
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/bcfc6cdd2b2dade1c62a74e2471c7854b9c196a3c0f078f797d70113964ede8d/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/a35b73132ddc1e269aa9ebe575d0e5e2e73e6f08cdb825b0887f91e0a4121cef/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/e520dbd210290edb01c7bf8d37cbdfc8e03b7a163dbd456a17868a71c4550397/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/89b5c5806c2482d9318cbf770f836cedb06286a2dd49e7c227fea02e198df2af/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/fa91a69c4a453e2fa734ebe4c83dd8ee77d70749f16f2d4c63f90aaeb4c50d31/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4dd7bc11c887471609493f01328394b25f7dd2bb535f46f49c42549ad687d862/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/9ee1766864b68a61bc3ba27aa98404ed46b76f6e9e6f0731ed445eb4d4112153/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/13bfb2554321f24c9648cfbda84ade6988df77543116688e6f08481fcc5bb0fa/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/8c271d4bc303852dedc7e6eea9a580f0ffd0dea9a066c9f0b7e5b926b2c5c0be/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/2fa7a2ecc5219b708f88eb3ed080657169306e35be14986500282cb9c455bbc1/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/1c206df8e1e12b7ca2acfec4b9e6617fd155c432f2b22bf34eb201f32f1fe3d6/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/36b806dc4db7596718766e344cff0db305ec4509e6fbdc673b394fa5cb62d9b3/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/40f4535813fe79417d0f040fdd53a5058bb29469026fc7a8eabb2b92db16eadf/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/4c301571ba732358aeffd767b5850c0db56efaf0d561016e8fc077d87187a26a/merged
overlay                            7.2T  3.8T  3.2T  55% /var/lib/docker/overlay2/73f9cd053d43eaf8707c481e68bb1beec843b7153a58dc9e99f467a637b33e9c/merged
tmpfs                              3.2G   12K  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000

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daftwerder

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

I think basically all Linux distros will support lvm? It seems like some installers do not, but as long as you leave the disks alone during installation it should be fine. As for distro, Debian is a great choice for a server. I've had no issues over the years since I ditched Ubuntu since they keep moving towards commercialization. If you want to learn more compared to Ubuntu you might not learn much though. Fedora could offer more learning, though honestly it's kind of all the same.

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kboy101222

in reply to daftwerder • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, they definitely support it, I'm just worried about things being overwritten by the install

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boblin

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

Another point to keep in mind - many distros now ship Podman instead of Docker, with Fedora being at the forefront of that change. If you‘re currently running Docker, you might want to check if your setup is drop-in compatible with Podman as some images will not work (usually related to permission or user switching, privileged ports).

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kboy101222

in reply to boblin • 2 mesi fa • •

Yeah, I was gonna try and check on that as well pretty soon! Thanks for the alert!

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Shareni

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

I'm currently running a home server using Ubuntu OS, but I'd like to try and explore other options for operating systems to better my skills with linux/unix.

What are you hoping to explore? Distrohopping servers is pretty much pointless, especially if you're using docker.

Like you're going to use dnf to install docker instead of apt, maybe configure selinux instead of apparmor, and that's it. Definitely not worth it IMO.

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Fecundpossum

in reply to Shareni • 2 mesi fa • •

This is the answer OP, your flavor of Linux matters when it’s your daily driver work/play machine. But for a server OS? You’re not missing anything using Ubuntu, and your experience won’t change much with another distro.

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LeFantome

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

If you want to use it as a server, Fedora is annoying because the support lifetimes are so short.

If you want the Fedora / Red Hat experience, consider Alma Linux. Skills wise, it is like using Res Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) which is an in-demand skill set.

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DigitalDilemma

in reply to kboy101222 • 2 mesi fa • •

For a server os, do things like consider stability and ease of upgrading between major versions.

Debian does both of those things extremely well.

If you're playing around with changing distros and your data is valuable, I'd try and find somewhere to back it up to, myself.

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