Hackers prove age verification systems on pornography sites can be bypassed in seconds
Using widely available technology, well-known ethical hackers Chris Kubecka and Paula Popovici quickly accessed numerous pornography sites without ever verifying their ages.
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Copyright Lawsuit Accuses Meta of Pirating Adult Films for AI Training
Adult film producers Strike 3 Holdings and Counterlife Media have filed a significant copyright infringement lawsuit against tech giant Meta. A complaint filed at a California federal court alleges that their films were downloaded via BitTorrent for AI training purposes. With at least 2,396 movies at stake, potential damages could exceed 350 million dollars.
Copyright Lawsuit Accuses Meta of Pirating Adult Films for AI Training * TorrentFreak
Adult film producers have filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Meta alleging their movies were downloaded for AI training purposes.Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
Uganda cracks down on Google over data protection breach
Original article published by CIPESA under Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 license.
In a July 18, 2025 decision, Uganda’s Personal Data Protection Office (PDPO) found Google LLC in breach of the country’s data protection law and ordered the global tech giant to register with the local data protection office within 30 days.
The decision would place the popular search engine under the ambit of Uganda’s Data Protection and Privacy Act, whose provisions it would have to comply with. In particular, the PDPO has ordered Google to provide – within 30 days – documentary evidence of how it is complying with requirements for transferring the personal data of Ugandan citizens outside of the country’s borders. Google also has to explain the legal basis for making those cross-border data transfers and the accountability measures in place to ensure that such transfers respect Uganda’s laws.
The orders followed a November 2024 complaint by four Ugandans, who argued that as a data collector, controller, and processor, Google had failed to register with the PDPO as required by local laws. They also contended that Google unlawfully transferred their personal data outside Uganda without meeting the legal conditions enshrined in the law, and claimed these actions infringed their data protection and privacy rights and caused them distress.
The PDPO ruled that Google was indeed collecting and processing personal data of the complainants without being registered with the local data regulator, which contravened section 29 of the Data Protection and Privacy Act. Google was also found liable for transferring the complainants’ data across Uganda’s borders without taking the necessary safeguards, in breach of section 19 of the Act.
This section provides that, where a data processor or data controller based in Uganda processes or stores personal data outside Uganda, they must ensure that the country in which the data is processed or stored has adequate measures for protecting the data. Those measures should at least be equivalent to the protection provided for under the Ugandan law. The consent of the data subject should also be obtained for their data to be stored outside Uganda.
In its defence, Google argued that since it was not based in Uganda and had no physical presence in the country, it was not obliged to register with the PDPO, and the rules on cross-border transfers of personal data did not apply to it. However, the regulator rejected this argument, determining that Google is a local data controller since it collects data from users in Uganda and decides how that data is processed.
The regulator further determined that the local data protection law has extra-territorial application, as it states in section 1 that it applies to a person, institution or public body outside Uganda who collects, processes, holds or uses personal data relating to Ugandan citizens. Accordingly, the regulator stated, the law places obligations “not only to entities physically present in Uganda but to any entity handling personal data of Ugandan citizens, including those established abroad, provided they collect or process such data.”
The implication of this decision is that all entities that collect Ugandans’ data, including tech giants such as Meta, TikTok, and X, must register with the Ugandan data regulator. This decision echoes global calls to hold Big Tech more accountable, and for African countries to have strong laws as per African Union (AU) Convention on Cyber Security and Personal Data Protection (Malabo Convention), and the AU Data Policy Framework.
However, enforcement of these orders remains a challenge. For instance, Uganda’s PDPO does not make binding decisions and only makes declaratory orders. Additionally, the regulator does not have powers to make orders of compensation to aggrieved parties, and indeed did not do so under the current decision. It can only recommend that the complainants engage a court of competent jurisdiction, in accordance with section 33(1) of the Act.
Conversely, the Office of the Data Protection Commissioner of Kenya established by section 5 of Data Protection Act, 2019 and the Personal Data Protection Commission of Tanzania established by section 6 of the Protection of Personal Information Act, 2022 are bestowed with powers to issue administrative fines under sections 9(1)(f) and section 47 respectively.
The dilemma surrounding the Uganda PDPO presents major concerns about its capacity to remedy wrongs of global data collectors, controllers and processors. Among its declarations in the July 2025 decision was that it would not issue an order for data localisation “at this stage” but “Google LLC is reminded that all cross-border transfers of personal data must comply fully with Ugandan law”. This leaves unanswered questions over data sovereignty and respect for individuals’ data rights given the handicaps faced by data regulators in countries such as Uganda and the practicalities presented by the global digital economy.
In these circumstances, Uganda’s Data Protection and Privacy Act should be amended to expand the powers of PDPO to impose administrative fines so as to add weight and enforceability to its decisions.
Ugandan Regulator Finds Google in Breach of Country's Data Protection Law, Orders Local Registration – Collaboration on International ICT Policy for East and Southern Africa (CIPESA)
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In its defence, Google argued that since it was not based in Uganda and had no physical presence in the country, it was not obliged to register with the PDPO, and the rules on cross-border transfers of personal data did not apply to it. However, the regulator rejected this argument, determining that Google is a local data controller since it collects data from users in Uganda and decides how that data is processed.
Google AI Overview is just affiliate marketing spam now
Beware of the Google AI salesman and its cronies
Exposing the overly salesy AI Overviews that will push you to buy bad products and exploring the system making it possible.Gisele Navarro (HouseFresh)
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Rule 34 - If it exists there is porn of it.
Rule 34 - If it exists, there is porn of it. We have pokemon, my little pony, Other hentai, whatever you want. Serving 9,349,989 posts.rule34.xxx
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Imagine if people could choose what country they're ~~browsing~~ from.
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It's yet another step in seeing the Internet becoming owned by big corporations. Only big corporations can implement these things.
Art, creativity, people doing internet things as a hobby, that is dying more and more everyday.
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There was a site I found in highschool around 1998 - the paradigm of pessimism.
Full of dark humor and anti-jokes, in glorious web 1.0 - that site had a huge impact on my humor. I've never been able to find it again. Just a random site someone hosted somewhere on the Internet - no scams, no paywalls, just a bunch of weird humor.
We do legit need a 'smallweb' non-commercial sort of thing, but I suspect retreating to a BBS model is probably what is required.
Me too, so much!
A big reason why I've come to like Lemmy communities so much is really because they give me some old internet feeling. It's not super crowded, it's an app that isn't design for brain rot, it allows interesting online discussion etc.
I think projects like this can continue to exist, even in a bleak corporate owned internet.
Fuck off with your device based verification system. That's just the same service, but as a more invasive app installed on your phone.
Instead of scanning a face or ID and uploading it to a service, we're expected to run unverified closed source code on the device we carry everywhere in our pockets?!
Fuck off with your device based verification system. That's just the same service, but as a more invasive app installed on your phone.
not necessarily. you give a phone to your children. you partly lock it down by setting it up as a child account, with its age. you make sure to install a web browser that supports limiting access to age appropriate content according to the age set in the system, maybe taking a parent allowed whitelist. the website is legally obliged to set an appropriate age limit value in a standard HTTP header.
that way, the website does not know your age. the decision is on the web browser.
the web browser checks the configuration in the system, that only the parent can change. it does not send it anywhere, only does a yes/no decision. if the site is not ok, it'll show a thing like when the connection is not secure or it was put on the safebrowsing list, except that you can't skip it, only option is to request parent permission.
and finally the age is set in the operating system, without verifying its truthiness, but once again requesting lock screen authentication.
oh and app installs need parent approval for kid accounts, like it should almost always be.
this way it's as private as it can get. the only way a website can find out information about you from this, is to log if your browser loaded the html but not any other resources, because that means you were caught in the age filter. but that's it.
there's multiple pieces in this that is not yet implemented, but they should be possible with not too much work.
this is all possible with open source code, if you make sure the kid can't install anything without parent approval. stores like fdroid could have some badge or something if a browser supports this kind of limitation.
how nearly none of them agree with each other on which age limit goes where.
that's the task of the website to figure out, the device does not have to be aware of the laws. but I think is still much easier to manage than id verification.
I habe an other idea. don't make the websites send agelimit http headers, because as you said that can easily vary by country. instead send http headers that tell what kind of content is available there. only the categories that could be questionable. that way the device (actually the browser) would decide if with the kid account's age that kind of content is accessible.
that way the browsers need to know the age limits, and maybe it's easier to handle it this way.
In my opinion, the best way to ensure that children don't go to certain places on the internet is to either not give them access to the internet at all or to only let them use whitelisted websites that you review yourself before adding.
ok, and I agree, but only very few parents will do that unfortunately. especially considering that their kids could be discriminated against by their ~~limited~~ clasates who don't have their access so broadly limited.
and then, you still need such a whitelisting capability, which I think does not really exist today in firefox and such browsers. addons cant solve this because they can be removed.
categories that could be questionable
That still could vary greatly by country and culture, as one man's pornography could very well be another man's art. You would either need a great deal of near-duplicate categories or just label something as explicit the moment a single country pipes up about a woman not concealing her hair or something else that doesn't bother you one bit.
ok, and I agree, but only very few parents will do that unfortunately. especially considering that their kids could be discriminated against by their limited clasates who don’t have their access so broadly limited.
I suppose that we could at least be able to convince the parents that letting their children go unsupervised on the internet is like letting them go unsupervised in the big city. Totally fine if they're old enough to know what they're doing and don't stray too far from where they're meant to be going, but unacceptable if they're not so wise yet and aren't at least somewhat regularly checked up on. Children will always want the forbidden fruit, but their parents should restrain them until they understand why it was forbidden to them in the first place, and how to safely interact with it.
and then, you still need such a whitelisting capability, which I think does not really exist today in firefox and such browsers. addons cant solve this because they can be removed.
I'm not too well versed in this kind of software either, but I just looked up some parental controls services and they seem to offer device-level blocking of unwanted websites/apps/downloads/etc. Web browsers don't need to do the blocking, as the parental controls probably refuse the connections to the web domains.
I didn't even mention all of this being completely bypassed if you used another website as a kind of proxy: go to proxywebsite.com -> it has a search bar -> use it to go to explicitwebsite.com -> proxywebsite.com returns the html, css, js etc of explicitwebsite.com without you ever visiting it -> profit.
Yeah, we're all mad, fuck the suits and all that.
But why does the distinction between "real-world adult material" and "creative, non-realistic", "artistic, animated works" that "do no harm" matter? Last time I checked, realistic adult material can be just as artistic, and the harm done by negligently letting children watch it seems comparable.
Are they in favour of age verification for "uncreative, realistic" pornography, or is the real distinction just between real-life and online?
Admittedly, I'm pretty sure UK did this with the underage consumers in mind, not the industry actors, for whom both sorts of porn would have a similiar impact. (I'd assume)
Personally though, the constant repeating to me sounded comedic and they were making fun of how seriously we're taking nude drawings with this, which sounds silly even if it's justified.
Something that can't happen in a drawing.
I think it's more about the legal distinction between drawn and 'real' porn.
TBH "negligently letting children watch it" seems like a sensless statement to me. The onus should be on parents to filter their kids' internet environments, not literally every accessible site on the open internet (which are never going to comply with a patchwork of age verification regs).
My networking knowledge may be out of date, but can't you get around region locked sites with VPNs or Tor?
I was in Turkey in July 2019. Wikipedia was blocked. I had to use Tor to access it. On installation I think I had to tick a special box that said something like "use flux capacitor bridge for blablabla countries like China and Turkey"
Though In that case, Wikipedia didn't give a fuck if you were accessing it from Tor. The government did.
I know some sites block tor/VPN access for various reasons
Doesn't proton offer a free vpn with limits?
Also, a vpn is pretty cheap. I wouldn't say that it's kids that would be using it, it would be adults who don;t want to upload their picture.
Yeah it's pretty good, you just can't torrent with the free tier and sometimes it's slow because a lot of people are using it.
But it's very useful for the short time I use it.
Yes however they are literally move all their infrastructure to the UK so they won’t be an option soon.
Windscribe is a thin too, but since they are Canadian and Canada is making stupid political deals with the US lately, it can’t be relied on either.
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You vastly underestimate the interest young people can have into things, especially into forbidden things, especially when the workaround is trivial and works with a few clics, no tech skills required.
Will this become a new venue for scam? Most likely. But kids motivation vs. a very easy "fix" is not what's gonna stop them. Adult surveillance would be way better.
It's less of a left - right thing (that's mainly economics). It paternalism Vs liberty thing. Labour have always had a very strong "we must protect the populace" theme to their policies. Conservatives have it too, but they want to do it in a different way.
Sadly it's a really difficult thing to stand against. Who wants to be labelled the person enabling paedophiles, when all you want is the right to private communication.
Meme photo of two astronauts in space, one holding a gun to back of the other’s head. It is overlayed with the text “Always has been.”
The full spectrum is really more like “authoritarian vs libertarian”. Political policy should really be split into two different spectrums. On one spectrum, you have financial policy. On the other, you have social policy. The two normally get lumped together because politicians campaign on both simultaneously. But in reality, they’re two separate policies. So the political spectrum should look less like a single left/right line, and more like an X/Y graph with individual points for each person’s ideology. Something more like this:
On this graph, as you go farther left, the government has more ownership and provides more, (and individuals own less because the government provides more for their needs). As you go farther up the chart, social policy gets more authoritarian. So for example, something on the far right bottom corner would be the Cyberpunk 2077/The Outer Worlds end-stage capitalist where megacorps inevitably own everything and have their own private laws.
Once you separate the two policies into a graph (instead of just a left/right line) it becomes clear why “small government” doesn’t necessarily correspond to “fewer laws” when dealing with politicians.
I assume "Republican" on this diagram is not used in the contemporary American sense. Otherwise it would be somewhere up in that little grey cloud.
In any case, official US politics takes place entirely within the top right quadrant, and UK politics seems to have retreated there too. Canada is in danger of getting up there as well. And we don't have any mechanism to vote our way out of that box, so change will have to come from action outside of electoral politics.
To correct one thing, the left-right political spectrum is based on authority. It goes back to the French Revolution, in which the nobility - favoring top-down power hierarchies - literally occupied the right side of the assembly hall while the revolutionaries - favoring true equality and egality - sat on the left.
This cannot be separated into distinct domains since power is wealth and wealth is power. The political compass fallacy is, and always was, nothing more than rightist propaganda to muddy language and ideology in an effort to hold on to their wealth and power.
Big Brother states (which the UK is certainly headed towards)
When the Snowden Revelations came out, the UK had even more civil society surveillance than the US.
As a consequence of those revelations, in the US some of the surveillance was walked back, whilst in the UK the Government just passed a law that retroactively made the whole thing legal, issued a bunch of D-Notices (the UK system of Press Censorship) to shut up the Press, got the Editor of the newspaper that brought it out in the UK (The Guardian) kicked out, and the Press there never talked about it again.
Also, let's not forget the UK has the biggest number of surveillance cameras per-capita in the World.
Oh, and they have a special and separate Surveillance Tribunal (the Investigatory Powers Tribunal) were the lawyers for the side other than the State are not allowed to be present in certain sessions, see certain evidence or even get informed of the final judgement unless their side wins.
They easily have the most extreme regime of Civil Society Surveillance in Europe, and in the World are probably second only to the likes of North Korea and China.
Britain is well beyond merely "headed towards" Big Brother and has been for at least a decade.
Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
Don't forget to write to your MP - being polite but angry helps. Explain the issues, shortcomings and why you feel this should be repealed and a better user-friendly and privacy respecting alternative needs to be found BEFORE implementing stupid asinine knee-jerk legislation like this.
My poor MP is getting it in the jugular because they boasted about working in data security and I'm exploiting the hell out of that statement so they can't easily weasel their way out of it.
"According to existing law (see Online Safety Act), websites are required to do age verification... blah blah blah, no changes will be made, thank you for your inquiry"
There's plenty of cases in games that didn't do this where malicious actors could find the IPs of the people they're playing with and DDoS them to give themselves an advantage. Knowing someone's IP will also probably tell you extra info about them like what city they're in, and open them up for further hacking.
How about Gemini? geminiprotocol.net/
Gemini is a group of technologies similar to the ones that lie behind your familiar web browser. Using Gemini, you can explore an online collection of written documents which can link to other written documents. The main difference is that Gemini approaches this task with a strong philosophy of "keep it simple" and "less is enough". This allows Gemini to simply sidestep, rather than try and probably fail to solve, many of the problems plaguing the modern web, which just seem to get worse and worse no matter how many browser add-ons or well meaning regulations get thrown at them.
How it applies to geolocation and server hosting in light of the OSA I really have no clue. But it's an interesting underground hacker/tinker type alternative.
A bit like DeviantArt but specifically for porn
Ah Lemmy, downvoting an honest question. Never change.
rule34.xxx is a website where users can post naughty drawings, renders, etc. of mostly anime or computer game characters. Think of your favourite character of your favourite anime, game, comic, etc. Chances are there’ll be images of them on there.
Have to agree with you. If every site just blocked the country with a stupid law like this, then the regular (regarded) folk that are gonna send over their ID the first chance they get will maybe log off their wank station and idk join the cause.
Saying that, at least ppl will be forced to use a vpn instead of sending their id through the internet if they dont comply and just block.
I imagine it would work about as well as YouTube Kids would.
Which is to say not at all
Oh no, what ever will I, resident of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, do.
Boots up Tor.
An copyright law is pretty similar in every country, or at least has a version of it. Japan's copyright law is so strict you can't even mention brands in media and has no version of fair use. It's why in Anime, when illuding to trademarks, it'll be something like "Sany" or "Destiny". This however, does not mean that I, in Scotland, am forbidden from making a video where I mention the words "Sony", "Disney", "Greggs", and "Tesco". Every country has different copyright laws and on the internet they seem to take a middle ground.
Porn on the other hand is very different with very different laws and very different ideas. For example, Porn is illegal in South Korea. No "JAV" where genitals are blocked out, porn is straight up a crime. Where I live however, it is legal, albeit on the internet you have to go through an adult verification thing, which is easily bypassed. Each country does not have a universal standard law on pornography or what counts as such. There's proposed laws in the US for example which could see the mention of queer people as counting as "pornography". Not the depiction, just something like "Leonardo Da Vinci was gay". That's why people in the UK are worried because the law doesn't just cover pornography and covers "sensitive content", which, you know, could be defined at some point to include anything.
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Mostra fotografica SHAPED – Women’s Voices in Ceramics, a Faenza (Ra) dal 31 luglio al 7 Settembre 2025
L’Unione della Romagna Faentina, nell’ambito del progetto europeo EMPOWER WOMEN, invita all’inaugurazione della mostra fotografica SHAPED – Women’s Voices in Ceramics, mercoledì 31 luglio alle 18:30 nel Salone delle Bandiere, Piazza del Popolo 31, Faenza.
Curata dal Gruppo Fotografia Aula 21, in collaborazione con la Strada Europea della Ceramica, Itinerario Culturale del Consiglio d’Europa, l’esposizione propone un racconto per immagini che attraversa le storie di undici ceramiste, esplorando il loro legame con argilla, arte e lavoro da una prospettiva femminile.
La mostra nasce all’interno di EMPOWER WOMEN, progetto cofinanziato dall’UE tramite il programma CERV – Networks of Towns, di cui l’Unione della Romagna Faentina è partner. Obiettivo: favorire partecipazione civica e uguaglianza di genere, pilastri di una società europea più inclusiva.
La mostra resterà visitabile fino al 7 settembre 2025.
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Copyright Lawsuit Accuses Meta of Pirating Adult Films for AI Training
Adult film producers Strike 3 Holdings and Counterlife Media have filed a significant copyright infringement lawsuit against tech giant Meta. A complaint filed at a California federal court alleges that their films were downloaded via BitTorrent for AI training purposes. With at least 2,396 movies at stake, potential damages could exceed 350 million dollars.
Copyright Lawsuit Accuses Meta of Pirating Adult Films for AI Training * TorrentFreak
Adult film producers have filed a copyright infringement lawsuit against Meta alleging their movies were downloaded for AI training purposes.Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
The National - Trouble Will Find Me (2013)
Se nel classico garage di turno di New York City, una qualsiasi band talentuosa si mettesse a suonare con l’intenzione di fare un disco alla National, con buona probabilità quel disco sarebbe “Trouble Will Find Me”... Leggi e ascolta...
The National - Trouble Will Find Me (2013)
Se nel classico garage di turno di New York City, una qualsiasi band talentuosa si mettesse a suonare con l’intenzione di fare un disco alla National, con buona probabilità quel disco sarebbe “Trouble Will Find Me”. Sono duri gli inizi per un gruppo: il parto di un’idea originale, la continua ricerca di una personalità, la voglia di non sentirsi mai scontati. I National negli ultimi anni hanno attraversato tutti questi stati, trasformandosi in una band dal successo globale, senza intaccare la loro più grossa e indiscutibile qualità: la personalità. Se la sono giocata, in tutti i modi possibili, abbinando il gusto per la raffinatezza melodica con la voce cavernosa del leader Matt Berninger... lindiependente.it/the-national…
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Ana Ribeiro nova prezidanto de TEJO
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US should be ashamed of its groundless accusations against China: Chinese envoy
US should be ashamed of its groundless accusations against China: Chinese envoy
The United States should be ashamed of its repeated groundless accusations against China at the UN Security Council this week, said a Chinese envoy on Friday.www.globaltimes.cn
US should be ashamed of its groundless accusations against China: Chinese envoy
US should be ashamed of its groundless accusations against China: Chinese envoy
The United States should be ashamed of its repeated groundless accusations against China at the UN Security Council this week, said a Chinese envoy on Friday.www.globaltimes.cn
Brits can get around Discord's age verification thanks to Death Stranding's photo mode, bypassing the measure introduced with the UK's Online Safety Act. We tried it and it works—thanks, Kojima
Brits can get around Discord's age verification thanks to Death Stranding's photo mode, bypassing the measure introduced with the UK's Online Safety Act. We tried it and it works—thanks, Kojima
The UK's new act blocks access to adult content without identification. Turns out, you only need a copy of Death Stranding and a phone to get around it.Jacob Ridley (PC Gamer)
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It's fun that one can use games for it, but it shouldn't be difficult to do the same through AI-generated imagery either, which isn't much more difficult.
Even though this method is flawed, one shouldn't really use ID-only verification either imho, as it's a security risk to upload any official document like that (ref. Tea app leaks).
The whole age verification that the UK wants to impose has been quite the impossible task from the beginning. Creating government-backed education for (future) parents about how to raise a kid and protect them in today's digital society would be more efficient than this, if we really are thinking of what is best for the kids. But alas, there are zero requirements to become a parent...
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Honestly we should just move on to device based attestation and if parents want to protect their kids they set up child mode.
I’m not responsible for lazy parenting.
The OSA is nothing to do with kids or parenting and everything to do with further developing surveillance of the UK and controlling what we can access.
I guarantee you, at some point after this will come prohibiting content deemed terrorism such as mentions of the word 'palestine' and 'action' in the same paragraph for example.
Sooner or later we'll have our own pseudo or real great firewall. I expect them to come after VPN use at some point too.
The techies implementing it probably knew this, but hoped that people would just quietly do it and not blast the news all over the internet. Nope!
I guess soon there will be only the more intrusive/trackable options like credit card or bank details.
I've seen this suggested elsewhere and it seems like the least intrusive suggestion to me - why not simply use the device as the age verification. Almost every phone/tablet/computer already knows your age through it's own sign-up/activation method, so why not allow the device to offer an API that provides age verification to sites that require it.
It could simply be a permissions-based answer where an adult site requests a yes/no answer to the question "is this user an adult" from the device and the user is prompted to provide the permissions for the site to have that data.
This would solve the problem for the vast majority of iphone/android/windows/macos consumers.
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The goal is to introduce general surveillance and censorship mechanisms. Whether they be technical, legal precedence, tested boundaries, or changes in laws and government positions.
Porn age stuff is just a convenient entry point. Solving just that without the survellance mechamisms is pointless to these people.
Jesus Christ, no, I'm not suggesting that nothing changes from exactly what we do now. I'm suggesting a new, more secure, less intrusive method, and it's not even an original suggestion. Just try a little bit of thought.
If it's going to be implemented by law anyway, the age verification should be at the device level. The device accounts already do ask your age - directly or indirectly - although it's not stringently enforced, however each of the big 3 already have a minimum age requirement to set up an account as per their terms and conditions.
It's not a big leap to suggest that true age verification is done at that point seeing as you already often have to provide an age or payment information to set up on-device payment details, meaning there's no need to involve a third party at any other subsequent point.
Honestly, I'd rather see official governmental third parties that handle ID verification and guarantee to discord and any service needing age verification that the user is over the required age. Not comfortable with sharing any sort of verifying data with private companies, even less american companies. I have to for some stuff, but... Not liking it one bit.
There is already a few countries here in Europe with an official governmental identity verification system, and I'm pretty sure age verification can be done through them. I think the EU is also working on a system covering the entirety of Europe, but not certain.
As we've seen, the current system is incredibly easy to bypass. There are plenty of ways to game or avoid the age checks.
The current implementation also uses multiple different age verification services, on a per-site basis. This proposed one reduces data exposure vulnerabilities to a fraction.
Microsoft exec admits it 'cannot guarantee' data sovereignty
Microsoft admits it 'cannot guarantee' data sovereignty
: Under oath in French Senate, exec says it would be compelled – however unlikely – to pass local customer info to US adminPaul Kunert (The Register)
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this is why you should encrypt everything on cloud services at rest. S3? encrypted. SQS? encrypted. MSSQL? encrypted.
if you are a developer or SRE you need to make sure your apps are encrypted.
How dare you suggest that having a publicly accessible, unencrypted database is not a best practice. The nerve.
/s in case the link didn’t make it obvious.
~~As someone in the US who has been in audits where we had to attest to where our data was stored, also wtf.~~
Oh reading the article it means non-US sovereignty. Pretty sure anybody in IT at this point should know the US privacy laws are non-existent and US companies are in this position and have been for decades.
Microsoft exec admits it 'cannot guarantee' data sovereignty
Then you don't get to touch my data (to the extent that I can control who already has my data without my permission...)
After BlackSuit is taken down, new ransomware group Chaos emerges
After BlackSuit is taken down, new ransomware group Chaos emerges
As BlackSuit’s dark web site goes dark, Chaos is already around to pick up the slack.Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
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Trevors-Tutorials.com is where you can find free programming tutorials. The focus is on Go and Ebitengine game development. Watch the for more info.
The Go Programming Language
Go is an open source programming language that makes it simple to build secure, scalable systems.go.dev
Getting Started with Ebitengine (Go game engine)
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
AdGuard is yet another app to block Windows Recall
AdGuard is yet another app to block Windows Recall
Recall, a controversial Windows 11 productivity feature, is now available to more users. At the same time, more privacy-focused apps are blocking it.Taras Buria (Neowin)
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I think it’s likely that Microsoft will start turning it on by default, and resetting it with updates for people who have opted out. Much like they did with edge and Cortana, intentionally making it harder to choose not to use it.
More programs actively blocking it will make that harder, but I wonder how many will stick to their guns when pressured by Microsoft.
I suspect that Microsoft will ratchet up the pressure to force it on people as the gen AI bubble pops, an attempt to keep the narrative alive to keep up demand for their overbuilt GPU data centers.
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MARK MY WORDS: They're going to feed your screenshots into an AI eventually, then try to make an operating system that you don't need a mouse for.
One that does everything people do on computers (the basic stuff anyways). That's their goal here; AI OS.
Nothing private about Windows recall. It makes your computer usage into their training data.
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This is the way of the world, but only because people are allowing it. I will never understand "I'm too lazy to care about my privacy", which undermines our security way more than we even know.
The worst part is that, no matter how some of us care and do something about our privacy, the ones that we interact with that don't care still expose us to all this BS. Until the world changes it's mindset, this will not change, and only get worse (I'm not holding my breath for people to care though).
Ok, seriously, just use Linux. I know how it sounds, but I'd say a majority of people use a computer to use a web browser. Guess what? We browsers have always worked and been native with Linux.
Problem is, it's not a passion for most people and they just want to buy something and get on the internet. While they exist, you can't exactly go to Best buy and buy a new computer running Linux.
But really, if you have hardware that works well with it, it's a dream.
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No, I don't want Linux or any other OS. I perfectly know my way around with Windows and so many of my regular tasks depend on tools made for Windows. I have used Linux desktop in the past and have many friends and co-workers who use it as their main OS, but it's just not for me.
Besides of course this recall stuff gets blown way out of proportion like every time Microsoft makes a bad move. All of my computers don't even support recall and when they eventually do, I'll just disable it in one of like four possible different ways.
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Fair enough, I use 10 and 11 at work and hate it ... I used to like 7, using the control panel, search, default paths and stuff seemed a lot more intuitive.
That's why I stick with Linux at home, it feels a lot more like Windows used to, lol
Indeed, I don't have admin rights for anything outside of IP address changes at work.
I just thought of another bug bear, start menu lag on mouse clicks is a very odd problem, I don't remember anything like that, even on the first release of Windows 95 which I ran on a laptop with 25MHz and 8 Mb of ram.
Yup, and it's on what was a mid-line laptop from 3 years ago. Only just started recently.
At home I use a thinkpad that I got 2nd hand 10 years back, and it feels like warp speed by comparison.
so many of my regular tasks depend on tools made for Windows.
Ok but the OP is taking about people who just use their computer for browsing the internet, so how is this relevant?
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I don't think so. I don't think it is blown out of proportion, I actually think it is that bad, and I also think that if you think you can just disable it and be done with it, you don't have any experience with microsoft products and services. they regularly reset privacy settings, both on windows, and yesterday I found that even in their android apps like the swiftkey keyboard.
another example of this tendency, is that a few days ago I was helping a friend with computer problems who stuck on windows 7, and I have seen that microsoft yas gone out of its way to push an update or something that installed their edge browser, pinned it to the taskbar and automatically opened it on boot.
I also rely on group policies. they do get reverted. o&o shutup10 has a feature to detect it and point that out, and I see it almost every time I open it. I use it rarely per machine, but I use it on multiple machines and each does this.
then sometimes the setting is just ignored. I was baffled when the policy to disable the start menu automatic bing search -which basically uploads all your local searches to microsoft bing - did not work, even after 2 reboots. I think it was this year, perhaps the last one
Damn, that sucks. It's been forever since I set that one so I checked and it looks like I'm using the registry edit method for that particular one. My start menu has looked like this for as long as I can remember so I'm not sure what's keeping it from changing with updates. searching for anything not on my local system results in 'no results found'
edit I am using OOSU10 but unless it has some auto-reset feature then it isn't what's keeping my changes in place through upgrades. I'm even on the beta channel for windows.
I will when either Nvidia supports it fully, or AMD releases a GPU that can keep up in the ray tracing department.
Also, HDR support in Linux needs to get a lot better. Like an order of magnitude better. Then and only then will I switch.
I've already tried Linux with an Nvidia GPU. The driver is bare bones. You don't get the Nvidia App or even the Nvidia Control Panel. That means no 3D Settings page, no RTX HDR, no Shadowplay, no game filters, no video upscaling in Firefox... All features that I paid money to have and use daily.
Point I'm making is that I didn't spend a bunch of money on a 4090, onlyto not be able to fully utilize every feature it has to offer.
Those seem like niche things to hold on to. A 5090 should work just fine under Linux, what feature do you use that isn't supported? Also a 9070 XT is capable of doing ray tracing. You don't always have to have the absolute most powerful card.
I don't have an HDR monitor so can't say how well it works in Linux, but you can survive without HDR. Is a better lighting contrast that big of a deal?
It doesn't mean you don't get those things, it just means that you don't use them via a control panel.
There are a few solutions for shadowplay that are all decent to excellent, rtx HDR I think is automatic in Proton? Not sure what you mean by game filters unless you're talking about reshade, and I wasn't aware there was a video upscaler in Firefox.
"Opt out of" or disable/block?
To me, "block" or "disable" seems like it blocks/disables the feature machine-wide, when it just says "pretty please, make me black after you take that screenshot".
Newsmax’s Greg Kelly Says Convicted Child Sex Trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell ‘Just Might Be a Victim’
Newsmax host Greg Kelly said on his show Thursday that convicted child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell "just might be a victim" -- a comment that drew loud and swift backlash.
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Cloudflare gets involved in the battle against piracy, blocking streaming websites in the UK — and VPNs won't help
Cloudflare cracks down on UK piracy – and VPN users are getting caught in the crossfire
VPNs used to be the go-to solution to bypass ISP blocks, but Cloudflare just ramped things upMonica J. White (TechRadar)
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The title here is misleading.
Cloudflare “getting involved” would imply they decided to act of their own volition; which is not the case here.
“Cloudflare compelled to block specific piracy sites by court order” would be a more honest title.
We should at least take the time to be mad at the correct people.
The editorialized title makes it sound like they made a decision and it wasn't because of a court order.
Actual article title: "Cloudflare cracks down on UK piracy – and VPN users are getting caught in the crossfire"
Not much better, but it is better than the OP's title.
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Cloudflare gets involved in the battle against piracy, blocking streaming websites in the UK — and VPNs won't help
Cloudflare cracks down on UK piracy – and VPN users are getting caught in the crossfire
VPNs used to be the go-to solution to bypass ISP blocks, but Cloudflare just ramped things upMonica J. White (TechRadar)
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For the first time, this also means that using a virtual private network (VPN) won't bypass these restrictions, as long as the server is based in the UK.
So a VPN will help? lol.
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Doesn't seem to be a DNS block. I just set Mullvad to the UK and visited one of the pages. Mullvad does run their own dns. Still got cloudflare 451.
The error message reads like the website is using Cloudflare CDN, so Cloudflare'd be able to block any requests originating from the UK.
Cloudflare's CDN is definitely used by a lot of torrent/piracy sites (e.g. 1337x, thepiratebay, Anna's archive), so we'll see what'll come off this.
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It's not just convenience - depending on how you use it, Cloudflare is also pretty good at giving an additional layer of anonymity. They assign any user of your site to the closest CDN Server geographically, so it's is pretty hard to determine how and where your site is actually hosted. They also used to be pretty good about resisting takedown requests.
Oh well. I'd say time for a federated CDN, but the legal costs would probably be rather annoying for most volunteers.
This doesn't make sense.
They say "endpoint in the UK" and "VPN Server in the UK", and that they could not confirm whether outside the UK would still block.
Cloudflare blocks UK requests. If you use a VPN you choose which country you send the requests from.
Cloudflare as a separate entity from the VPN provider can't know where requests originally came from. That's the whole point of the VPN.
There is nothing new here. The article seems to misunderstand and to misrepresent.
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Valve is redesigning the Steam Store Menu and Search, wants user feedback
Valve's latest update to the Steam store is aiming to revamp the top menu bar as well as the search functionality.
Valve is redesigning the Steam Store Menu and Search, wants user feedback
Valve's latest update to the Steam store is aiming to revamp the top menu bar as well as the search functionality.Pulasthi Ariyasinghe (Neowin)
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Intel is spinning off its Network and Edge group
Intel will remain an anchor investor in the stand-alone company, which produced $5.8 billion in revenue in 2024.
India bans streaming apps you’ve never heard of — but millions watch
India has ordered the blocking of 25 streaming services — many with millions of viewers and even paying subscribers — for allegedly promoting "obscene" content.
India bans streaming apps you’ve never heard of — but millions watch | TechCrunch
India has ordered the blocking of 25 streaming services — many with millions of viewers and even paying subscribers — for allegedly promoting "obscene" content.Jagmeet Singh (TechCrunch)
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GPD’s monster Strix Halo handheld requires a battery ‘backpack’ or a 180W charger
Not your typical PC handheld.
GPD’s monster Strix Halo handheld requires a battery ‘backpack’ or a 180W charger
The GPD Win 5 will house the Ryzen AI Max+ 395 chip, with AMD’s most powerful integrated graphics, inside a PlayStation Vita-shaped machine.Sean Hollister (The Verge)
SF-Based Internet Archive Is Now a Federal Depository Library. What Does That Mean?
SF-Based Internet Archive Is Now a Federal Depository Library. What Does That Mean?
The Internet Archive, thanks to its designation by California Sen. Alex Padilla, joins a network of over 1,100 libraries that make government documents accessible to the public.Morgan Sung (KQED)
Brits can get around Discord's age verification thanks to Death Stranding's photo mode, bypassing the measure introduced with the UK's Online Safety Act. We tried it and it works—thanks, Kojima
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Experimental surgery performed by AI-driven surgical robot
Experimental surgery performed by AI-driven surgical robot
In experimental surgery on pig organs, the robot performed well.Jacek Krywko (Ars Technica)
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We've seen this coming ever since machine leaning has been on the public's radar. The current davinci robot are always wired directly to Intuitive, ostensibly so that their support team can help resolve faults mid-surgery asap.
Every input the surgeon makes is recorded. Intuitive has millions of surgeries of training data.
I'd absolutely hate to put the decision making of my own surgery in the hands of the bullshit generators we call 'AI', but I could say the same about some of the surgeons I've worked with too... If I really had to choose which one I distrust the least, I'd probably just ask my anesthesiologist to load me up with 'i don't give a fuck' drugs and choose whichever option is cheaper.
The article is very unclear on the kind of model they used. Several mentions of ChatGPT, but it doesn't really sound like they used an LLM.
I really hope it's not an LLM, this is a perfect case for specialized models trained just for surgery. I really wouldn't want my surgeon to invent stuff when it doesn't know what to do.
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Dragonero ...
Se vi piace il genere fantasy... con bei paesaggi incontaminati piene di gente normale, anormale e di strane creature, un mondo fiabesco di storie attorno ad un fuoco, e l'immancabile manipolo di eroi ognuno con la sua storia, la sua personalità e le proprie speranze... Dragonero della italiana 'Sergio Bonelli' fa per voi.
La stessa casa editrice di Tex e Dylan Dog, per intenderci, qualora foste curiosi (e curiose) ma poco frequentanti questo mondo..
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Dragonero - Sergio Bonelli
Martedì 22 luglio, alle ore 18:00, il Bonelli Store di Milano ospita Stefano Vietti e Ivan Calcaterra in occasione dell'approdo in libreria del nuovo volume di Senzanima: Maleficio!www.sergiobonelli.it
Canada’s Bill C-2 Opens the Floodgates to U.S. Surveillance
Canada’s Bill C-2 Opens the Floodgates to U.S. Surveillance
The Canadian government is preparing to give away Canadians’ digital lives—to U.S. police, to the Donald Trump administration, and possibly to foreign spy agencies.Electronic Frontier Foundation
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Contact Restored with Gaza-Bound Aid Ship Handala Amid Fears of Israeli Attack
Who is Handala, the inspiration behind latest Gaza flotilla ship
Handala is the new Freedom Flotilla vessel carrying activists and humanitarian aid to challenge the Israeli blockade.Al Jazeera
Transparent PCBs Trigger 90s Nostalgia
Transparent PCBs Trigger 90s Nostalgia
What color do you like your microcontroller boards? Blue? Red? Maybe white or black? Sadly, all of those are about to look old hat. Why? Well, as shared by [JLCPCB], this transparent Arduino looks …Hackaday
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MB manufacturers are leaving money on the table. They can pair it with a transparent GPU and sell it as a combo.
$$$
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Pretty sure it would just be copper color. Lots of overlapping layers (6-8) in a MB.
The late 90s to early 2000s PCs I remember were that god awful beige color that I absolutely hated. It was fucking horrible.
Like in my mind, I associate that particular color of beige to dinosaur tech that's not worth having around.
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SilverStone reveals the FLP02 late-80s style tower PC case — proudly beige but thoroughly modern inside
Supports massive modern GPUs, up to 360mm AiO CPU coolers, and has a Turbo button fan controller.Mark Tyson (Tom's Hardware)
I love that. I still have the very first computer I ever bought, a Power Mac G4
I keep saying that some day I'll modify the case to house my current PC.
My favorite feature of that case was the latch you can see on the side, you pull the latch and the entire side opens downward, no screws. .
"Tea" app - user database leaked today (incl. drivers license & IDs). Daily reminder not to give your ID to online services [THEY DO NOT PROTECT YOUR INFORMATION]
Remember the UK new safety law.
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Reddit rolls out age verification in the UK to comply with new rules | TechCrunch
Reddit users in the UK will have to upload their ID or a selfie to access potentially harmful content.Lauren Forristal (TechCrunch)
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Uh... What's the tea app?
Edit: from what I can gather based on the last link attached to this post it seems to be some kind of app for women to talk about men they've dated. Why that needs drivers license uploads is a whole other question and definitely should have raised some massive red flags for anyone thinking about using it.
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Found this article after a quick web search: forbes.com/sites/kateoflaherty…
It's an app where women upload photos of men they're dating to get "the tea" on them (red flags, catfishing, etc.). I always wondered if something like this existed. Sucks that it has to, sucks even more if their users are being targeted like this.
What Is Tea, The Viral Women-Only App With 1 Million Downloads?
Tea, an app that allows women to post pictures and info on men they’re dating for feedback, is going viral. What exactly does the app do and what problems does it raise?Forbes
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Just goes to show how lost you are in your feminist supremacy bubble, that even leftist spaces like lemmy think this thing is creepy.
This already happened in my country, Secret was an app that got huge while I was finishing high school, an anonymous platform for people to confess private stuff, it rapidly became bully culture and libel central.
If someone doesn't want to date you because of gossip they read online, then you dodged a bullet. The garbage took itself out.
Do you think X should be shut down because some users use it irresponsibly?
Reddit?
Lemmy?
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The reason that up until now an app like that hasn't existed is because it is an absolutely awful idea if you spend more than 10 seconds thinking about it.
It's ripe for abuse in fact I would be surprised if even half of the reports are legitimate. Isn't absolutely god awful system and whoever thought this up is an absolute prat, who seriously needs to get outside and actually experience real life and real people.
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The drivers license thing is likely due to a law passed by the UK a few days ago requires all mature content to be behind an age check. And not a "Are you 18: Yes / No", more like "we will check using ID and photos of you".
It's the most hated piece of legislation in a while, with already 100 000 petition votes in 3 days to repeal it.
Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
No idea why they were collecting identification then.
Even worse, since the hackers got a bunch of the data at once, the company must have held onto those pictures long after they registered people to their service, which they likely didn't need to do.
Oh yes the famous state of Colorado UK.
UK driving licences do not look like that, they don't have US states on them (major clue), are green, and if the person in the photo actually looks like a living human and not corpse, it gets sent back as unacceptable.
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"talk"
They try to get a pass on this by saying it's about "safety" and reporting creeps. But it's filled with women posting dudes and gossip. It gives me the same vibes as those sites back in the day that were shut down because they were essentially revenge porn sites. Same shit different form.
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Yea cause that's what these sites totally were doing.
Everyone knows what these places were. 4chan are fucking scumbags but so are the people using these gossip sites. They're both cut from the same cloth
Aside from the fact that it was stored in a public database, there's no need to store photos of the IDs at all. The account can just be marked as verified and move on.
Also I doubt that measure would keep a man out if he really wanted to join...
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The only entity able to connect you in this case is the identity verification third party. The premise is that a government-backed identification system is more secure than a rando private company.
Private company asks government "hey is this user real and unique", government replies "yes". Private webiste does not need to know your ID. No identifying element needs to be transmitted by the government.
Of course some private companies will need more, and in that case the user, you, can grant them access to data, much like the current authentication systems using Google accounts & co.
In which case the flow would be:
- Rando insecure company asks government "is this user real and unique? I need their name"
- Government website asks you "this rando company wants to know your name"
- You accept
- Goverbment replies to rando insecure conpany "yes, user real, name is X"
That's how it should be.
Any government already has all of that information, so, no.
By giving it to a company, you just increase the risks of info leakage.
I assume OP actually meant the additional info the government can get from where I authenticate with my goverment ID to a company.
Hypothecial situation: You wanna buy a sex toy.
If the goverment does store where and what you buy, they could punish you by withholding services.
And they might not say why and give a bs excuse or send you on a goose hunt to do more paperwork.
You can suspect that but probably never proof that it was the case.
As always life is complicated.
I am talking about my personal situation.
^(Do I really need to put a disclaimer to all posts, that mentions all comments are from my own view and might no apply to every situation in every country?)
They wouldn’t see what sites you give the tokens to — unless those sites choose to phone home, for some reason.
- You log in to the government site
- You ask for a token to prove your age/gender/whatever
- You copy the token
- You go to the age/gender-restricted site
- You provide the token
- The restricted site asks the government site how to verify any arbitrary token (but doesn’t mention your specific token)
- The restricted site verifies the token
Friendly reminder that some services do need your ID otherwise they cannot help you or at least they need to very you (accountants, notaries, etc)
edit: I can´t do your tax report if I 1 don´t identify you and 2 I don't have the social security for which I need to do the report
Not to me, yes the app sucks, yes the use case of the app also sucks, yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI (these have been discussed extensively and I agree with all).
But can't commend public release of such sensitive data in such a place. You can still bury this app and the company without compromising people's sensitive data. Makes for less of a show and less opportunity to boast but yea.
yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI
Solely blaming the devs tells me you have no experience with Firebase security
That's exactly what hacking is.
'90s hacking movies may have given you a different idea of what cybersecurity looks like, but this is what the real world is like
Also, Google deserves a scolding here. Firebase's default configuration is absolutely atrocious. One of the few critical vulnerabilities I've seen where the system is working as intended. Dubbed the hospital gown vuknerability because they leave the backend wide open by default
Firebase's default configuration
I'm going to get on my grumpy old man soapbox. I understand making things idiot proof for end users. End users are idiots. But do we have to make things super safe for developers now too? Do we want to add a warning to rm so we don't accidentally remove the wrong directory?
Any developer who doesn't know to check permissions and accessibility on their database deserves to have their AI vibe coding bot taken away.
Second monitor not working on Fedora 42 (Solved) [RTX 4070Ti]
I just got this laptop and the second monitor is clearly detected by Fedora, as the monitor layout popup pops up, but the monitor doesn't actually work.
I assume this to be an NVIDIA problem, but as I have no experience with NVIDIA-based issues, I thought I'd ask here.
Here's my system specs:Operating System: Fedora Linux 42 KDE Plasma Version: 6.4.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.16.0 Qt Version: 6.9.1 Kernel Version: 6.15.7-200.fc42.x86_64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 24 × Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 275HX Memory: 32 GiB of RAM (30.8 GiB usable) Graphics Processor: Intel® Graphics Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 83LU System Version: Legion Pro 5 16IAX10H
Side note - is it not detecting my GPU?
It's using your embedded GPU, not the Nvidia one. Depending on the laptop build, only some outputs work with both, or one or the other. Kind of a crapshoot.
On your terminal run nvidia-smi and see if you get some output. If not, your Nvidia card isn't being used. On Fedora, it should be pretty straightforward to install the drivers if you haven't done so yet.
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How To Install NVIDIA Drivers on Fedora 42
Installing NVIDIA drivers on Fedora 42 can significantly enhance your system's graphics performance, enabling smoother gaming experiences, efficient computational tasks, and better support for graphicr00t (idroot)
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Mercedes Gives Customers the One Thing They've Always Wanted: Microsoft Teams
Mercedes Gives Customers the One Thing They've Always Wanted: Microsoft Teams
Just when you thought in-car technology couldn’t get any worse, Mercedes and Microsoft have teamed up to put Teams in your vehicle.Jeff Perez (Motor1.com)
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Best os choices and use cases for a netbook with 2ram?
Plus, is the CPU even 64bit yet? Many distros have dropped their 32bit support already.
An up-to-date desktop suite? Hardly so.
I used to run Gentoo (and build it too) on an arm tablet with 1gb RAM, quite a few years ago. It was an Asus TF700T with an hardware keyboard and touch screen.
It's painful and really almost useless. You can setup the tyniest of the window manger and tools, but forget about browsing, using any office program, and probably a lot more.
With patience, it can be used i guess. Also, could be a nice command line only device with decent results.
My arch linux with KDE only uses 500Mb ram after boot and I have a handfull of apps in the autostart. So I would guess with some explicitly lighter desktop environment you can be well below 100Mb
If you have a chance to add an ssd or nvme you could allocate a decently sized swap partition and let the OS handle the rest.
Maybe you won't be able to watch full HD youtube in big fat chrome browser, but otherwise it should work just fine I think.
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Is it 32-bit? If it is, then that also severely limits your options. Personally, I just throw Debian or one of its derivatives on old hardware like that. You may want to consider Q4OS. It's Debian based and is geared specifically towards old and low-end hardware. Interestingly, it's also one of only a couple distros that ship with Trinity as a desktop environment.
Retro gaming is definitely doable with 2GB of RAM, considering that older Raspberry Pi boards can do it with just 1GB. In that case you could try Batocera.
Some other ideas include running something like Nextcloud or a media server on it on your home network. In that case, I'd again recommend Debian.
Like others have said, Debian probably isn’t a bad idea.
I feel like it would be kind of stupid to run a full-on desktop environment even though technically possible, though - I think this is a good use for IceWM.
Also, at worst, you might have a really low power server.
I suggest Q4OS (with Trinity DE). It loads itself at 340 MB of RAM, so it leaves you with a lot of free RAM (especially since the heaviest apps now are browsers -- youtube needs 1 GB for itself). Arch Linux with XFCE can be made to boot at 470 MB. Debian starts at 650 MB. Ubuntu/Fedora start at over 1.5 GB so avoid.
Then of course there are the damnsmalllinux, antix etc, but the user experience on these is bad. Q4OS feels like a modern OS with GUI panels for everything, while not taking lots of ram.
Bunsenlab Linux I suppose, but do know if it's the single core atom version web browsing will be very slow and YT will only work in 240p after spending 10 minutes loading and you gotta use Chrome.
Mine has a Windows XP dualboot for retro gaming and Office 2007 flies on this thing. (Though it's not very compatible with newer versions of office)
Retro gaming is the best use case including ps1 emulation. I've been thinking of putting native dos on it, because some dos games are lagging in dosbox. (like imperium galactica 1 and even Prehistoric 2..)
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
“I have failed you completely and catastrophically,” wrote Gemini.Benj Edwards (Ars Technica)
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I didnt think anybody could be that stupid...
Where have you been for the last 5 years?
And can I come wherever that was? Sounds blissful.
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I'm convinced the AI models ran across the "best place to test is in production" joke in training and thought it was a valid process.
I mean, it is a valid process. You will get far faster results that way than on a test server.
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From TFA:
"I have failed you completely and catastrophically," Gemini CLI output stated. "My review of the commands confirms my gross incompetence."
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the same? idk i think this is worse… who does vibe coding, sees the huge number of errors AI makes and THEN is like “yeah sure i’ll pipe that straight into a prod DB shell”
random bash scripts from reputable projects at least work most of the time (eg like homebrew)
Again, they were running dev tools in prod.
That's a mistake so dumb, it's actually in the ISO that tells you how not to be a fuck up.
You don't run your dev tools in prod.
~~A good craftsman never blames their tools~~
EDIT: I misquoted
A bad workman blames their tools
On one hand, it's very clear the tools are the core of the problem.
On the other hand, I don't think I'll be calling any vibe coders good craftsman any time soon.
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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My friend came over and told me a story about this crazy date she was on. The guy love bombs her, sets her up with a massage, then in the morning, goes out and eats McDonalds alone and ghosts her. Then repeats every few weeks with love bombs.
I shared that with my discord group and someone said they know that guy too.
Im assuming that's what Tea is for.
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sets her up with a massage, then in the morning,
What happened between the massage and him ditching her to eat breakfast?
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...eats McDonalds alone and ghosts her. Then repeats every few weeks with love bombs
Something something "cheat day"
Stay classy, 4chan. /facepalm
I can understand some people's skepticism on how quickly an app like this can turn into a gossip and defamation tool, especially when those who might be defamed can't access it... but god damn this isn't how to show people that aspect of it.
Also, not to say I don't see the value in apps like these: I absolutely do, they are there for women to protect themselves. I would suspect the number of women misusing it is in the minority and the majority use it appropriately.
Whereas a similar app for men? Those are almost instantly used for things like Revenge Porn. Men are not going to win this battle and prove they are better than women in this regard because the men who would misuse such an app are solidly in the majority. Basically the complete opposite. Events like this prove it.
Anyway, fuck 4chan misogynist freaks.
Men are not going to win this battle and prove they are better than women in this regard because the men who would misuse such an app are solidly in the majority.
I think there’s also a lot of confirmation bias, in the sense that you need to consider why people would seek out such an app. Why would women seek out a women-only app? And inversely, why would men seek out a men-only app? The answer to each will be fundamentally different, which means the user bases will be fundamentally different as well.
Basically, what types of women would go out of their way to engage with a women-only app? Chances are good that the average woman has probably had the thought before, and is doing so to try and stay safe. The active engagement is seen as a positive thing, and she’s willing to jump through a few hoops (like uploading a photo ID) to get there.
Now imagine the inverse. Most guys probably wouldn’t even think of using a men-only app for safety reasons. Like it’s not even on their radar, because safety while dating isn’t something they’re concerned with. Most men probably wouldn’t think of seeking out a men-only app at all. So the pool of men who would be willing to go out of their way to engage with a men-only app is going to look vastly different. The average user likely won’t reflect the average man, because the average man wouldn’t even think to seek out a men-only app. Or if he does, he doesn’t feel strongly enough about it to jump through any hoops to engage. It means the average user would most likely be one of the extremely toxic manosphere/men’s rights advocate/creep/etc stereotypes instead.
To be clear, this isn’t a “not all men” post. Because the reality is that it’s certainly enough men to be concerning. My point is simply that the confirmation bias will be a large factor in whether or not the user base actually reflects the average person.
It’s basically the same way the average Lemmy user doesn’t reflect the average person. If you looked at the average Lemmy user and tried to print that into society, you’d expect the average person to be a Linux-using communist programmer.
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This is for all men and women, not broken down by different factors.
When an average is taken of all the elections, men average 43.67% for Democrat and 50% for Republican for a 6.33% difference. I do also think it's notable that in only one election since 2000 has the support for Republican candidates from men been under 50%, that's 48% for McCain in 2008. I honestly think the voting patterns from the 90's are gone and so while I included those in the averages, I think just touching on votes since 2000 gives a clearer picture with the average for men supporting the Democratic candidate at 44.14% and support for the Republican candidate at 52.58% for an 8.44% difference. That's still a large spread when we're talking the total number of men who vote at all. Somewhere around the size of the entire city of Los Angeles in terms of population.
I mean...
Looking at mic_check's figures...
Lets say we are just talking straight, hetero people.
We got all straight men at 43:55 Dem to Rep, thats a 22% higher chance of a woman randomly picking a Rep instead of a Dem.
Meanwhile you can just, as a woman who is looking into dating a man...
Just pick a random, single, never married dude.
Bam!, now its 61:37 Dem to Rep, a 65% higher chance a random, never married dude will be a Dem than a Rep.
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We are talking about these stats in the context of dating, right?
Where people like, talk, get to know each other?
Not just being randomly assigned partners from a slot machine?
Do dating apps not like, allow you to filter by something like this, or... talk/chat to a person, and ask them questions before you meet them...?
Its kind of silly to paint individual people with a broadly accurate brush... when the ostensible whole point is to get to know a person individually.
Sure, use broad stats to form a broadly accurate general worldview, but realize its limitations.
Disclaimer: Please consider this a sort of fork of your discussion so far, I only mean to say anything about the parts of your comment I actually reference.
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Why would women seek out a women-only app? And inversely, why would men seek out a men-only app? The answer to each will be fundamentally different, which means the user bases will be fundamentally different as well.
To a significant degree, yes, but I think you are overstating that degree.
Tea is imo more like a gossip app, ala Nextdoor, just specific to dating.
Tea isn't a dating app, it is... I guess you could call it ... dating-app-meta-review app, from a technically minded standpoint?
A supplement to a (or many) dating app(s).
~~But it doesn't actually directly link to~~
[(EDIT: whoops I accidentally a sentence there.)]
It is named 'tea', as in gossiping, the deets, the low down, the real story, etc.
Literally this is their own marketing:
It is literally just a replacement for Facebook 'Are we dating the same guy' groups, but better, if you pay, because the Premium account allows you to run background / criminal / sex offender records.
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So, a rough equivalent for guys would probably be named something like MPH, officially Miles Per Hour, unofficially, Miles Per Hoe, I dunno, something edgy for the manosphere crowd, where guys would gossip about cheating girls/women, and also be able to run background checks on them for a premium.
I can guarantee you that men would be broadly interested in such an app if it existed.
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Now imagine the inverse. Most guys probably wouldn’t even think of using a men-only app for safety reasons. Like it’s not even on their radar, because safety while dating isn’t something they’re concerned with.
Maybe not as much in the safety sense of immediate physical danger, but absolutely in the sense of... is this person financially abusive, emotionally manipulative, do they have kids, or a massive amount of debt/bad spending habits, an STI, etc, that they don't mention untill they've been dating you for some time, do they have a history of acting like they're committed when they've in the past cheated whilst acting like they were monogamous?
These kinds of things apply to both men and women, and are far more common to occur in a dating/relationship than physical abuse.
Yes, women are more likely to be the victim of physical or sexual violence or stalking...
But its not like this doesn't happen to men.
I can personally tell you that I, a guy, have been so lucky as to have had all three of those happen to me, done by women.
But lets not just use myself as an anecdote, here are the stats on that from the CDC, last updated before the Trump Admin got into power, doesn't look like they've fucked with this page.
cdc.gov/intimate-partner-viole…
IPV is common. It affects millions of people in the United States each year. Data from CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS) indicate:1About 41% of women and 26% of men experienced contact sexual violence, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner during their lifetime and reported a related impact.
Over 61 million women and 53 million men have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime.
We could quibble about the exact stats of what sex/gender the partner was, and they do cite some studies directly, but uh, oversimplifying to pretend only heterosexuality exists...
About half as many men have been seriously, violently victimized or stalked as women, and I'd be willing to bet the psychological abuse numbers are at least a bit closer to equal if you account for men being unwilling to admit to being victimized in that way due to internalized machismo, 'shut up and deal with it', whatever you want to call it.
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Point of me saying all this is to throw numbers toward countering your claim here:
Most men probably wouldn’t think of seeking out a men-only app at all. So the pool of men who would be willing to go out of their way to engage with a men-only app is going to look vastly different. The average user likely won’t reflect the average man, because the average man wouldn’t even think to seek out a men-only app.
I agree that it wouldn't represent the average man, but we've got a potential user pool of 50+ million men in the US who've been through a bad relationship and would probably also not want to go through that again.
Again, yes it is absolutely true that women more often experience a more severe form of relationship than men, no argument there.
But I don't think you can just say that a man version of tea would only appeal to blackpilled manosphere men.
Yes, that would likely be a large proportion of the user base, but there are tons of men who are not misogynists and also would like to avoid being played or abused.
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Also, uh:
You say that,
The active engagement is seen as a positive thing, and she’s willing to jump through a few hoops (like uploading a photo ID) to get there.
But what I am seeing is:
To access Tea, women have to verify their gender by submitting a selfie, which is then verified by the app’s team.
fastcompany.com/91374409/every…
The rest of that quote is that the picture is 'verified by the Tea team', but I think we both know that almost certainly means they just use an AI face scanning tool.
Anyway, point is: taking a selfie is a way, way lower bar to entry than taking a picture of your driver's liscense... basically every dating app already does the former, this is totally normal now, whereas the latter is... so uncommon I cannot think of an example.
So....taking a selfie is not that much of a trifle, not a strong potential blocker, for a guy who's already used a dating app in the last 5 ish years.
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EDIT 2:
Occured to me on reviewing this:
... Yeah, an AI face recognition to verify gender?
How... does that work for trans folks, or even probably just non white women, and are women who are maybe bald or have more typically masculine coded shorter hair cuts, with less stereotypically/heuristically feminine facial features?
AI has fucked up this kinda shit in the past quite badly.
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I would suspect the number of women misusing it is in the minority and the majority use it appropriately.
Well just look at Facebook groups that are dedicated to the same sort of thing and see how catty they get. You know the types that decide that just because a man they have never seen before is in the neighbourhood he's clearly up to no good when he's probably just delivering parcels.
Anyway it doesn't matter if 90% were legitimate and 10% not. They are still defaming people, with no opportunity for those people to correct the record. Anyway I am a much more cynical person, mostly through experience of working in customer service, and I think it's probably more like 50/50.
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The only site I ever felt comfortable scanning shit like that into was a site that sold things only to military/medics/fire fighters so I had to upload my medic license and my FF cert.
Anything beyond that is a no go from me.
To be fair, I’m not sure why firebase even has a public access option. That’s a recipe for issues.
Though if it’s anything like Google Cloud Store, they hopefully make it very clear that your bucket is public.
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I honestly don't understand what op is talking about.
Leaks happen all the time, even in billion dollar companies.
Their comment is the equivalent like, "This is why you should lock your doors!" Like uh okay.
This situation would have been easily preventable with basic understanding of what they're doing is what OP is saying. This leak is not something highly complex, it is painfully stupid on the side of the developers.
There's a difference between a hack, where data is exposed, compared to data exposure due to negligence or ignorance on the development side.
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Where I'm from there's certificates a company can get, that confirm a certain level of process and IT security. Also a company existing for at least 5-10 years without incidents is a "vetted" company in my books. At least anything that managed to produce a working IT system before 2021 when AI came around.
I also believe there's a bit of bad wording going on with the original comment. Take it up with that guy, lol.
This was more like leaving all your valuables in a cardboard box on your front lawn. Anyone can just take it, if they care to look inside the complete unsecured box.
Someone just drove up and tossed the box in their truck. No lock involved.
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This is something I worry about all the time as well, especially since I've started to learn how to code and experienced how easy it is to mess up and send a list with all registered users to everyone opening a page. (This was in a test environment.)
As a user, there is no proper way I know of to verify an app's security. Most apps are closed source, but even if you could view the code, what would you look for?
Both Apple and Google have a verification process for apps that are published in their app stores, but if these worked, we wouldn't see this happening.
There are academic researchers working on apps and privacy as well, but it's not like you can ask them for a report on an app you're thinking of installing.
I think it basically comes down to trust. Check if a developer has messed up in the past and how they dealt with that, that sort of stuff. And for dating apps there is this interesting article: privacyguides.org/articles/202…
It's a long read (haven't fully read it myself yet) and it paints a bleak picture, but that's the world we live in today.
Queer Dating Apps: Beware Who You Trust With Your Intimate Data
At the intersection of data privacy and LGBTQ+ experiences, it's inevitable to talk about queer dating apps. Unfortunately, most are horrible for data privacy.Privacy Guides
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Now now, I like to shit on vibecoders too but let’s not pretend this is some new problem.
Idiots leave databases on cloud servers exposed all the time rather than deal with their companies often arcane rules for generating certificates
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Where do you think the AI learned it?
Like, I get that competent coders do it too, but now any skiddie with an idea can cosplay as a developer so this is going to be so much more prevelant
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Missouri will not prosecute 'hacker' reporter for daring to view state website HTML
Missouri's governor was both criticized and mocked for saying the journalist "decoded HTML source code" for malicious purposes.Charlie Osborne (ZDNET)
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Technically the act passed in 2023 under the Sunak government.
That said; I can't seem to find a vote breakdown and I would not be at all surprised if labour also backed it.
I'm hoping enough public dissatisfaction leads to labour repealing it but I won't hold my breath.
Wow that was fast.
I did not even know this app existed untill about 8 hours ago.
Already comprimised.
EDIT: Also, lol, this arguably is not even largely a hack.
These idiots just had everything stored in a fucking publically accesible firebase bucket... amazing.
They didn't delete anything they claimed to.
Either way you look at it, anywhere on the spectrum from:
A ] A bunch of women reasonably concerned for their safety
B ] A bunch of gossip mongers
... well, they've now all been doxxed, ironic from each angle.
What a fucking disaster.
if that’s truly how the leak happened then these people, in any reasonable jurisdiction, would be considered criminally negligent, at the least.
yay compsci ethics courses 😁
boo courts failing to uphold the law >🙁
this arguably is not even largely a hack.
While I agree in principle, I think we should still call it a hack. As in "to gain illegal access to (a computer network, system, etc.)" as Merriam-Webster puts it. It shouldn't be legal to do do this just because the website had horrible (non-existent) security. You shouldn't be allowed to rob a house just because the door wasn't locked.
Protecting our users' privacy and data is our highest priority. We are taking every necessary step to ensure the security of our platform
Since sensitive data was put on a public bucket, maybe they meant it was their lowest priority?
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At first I was going to call bullshit because I thought you were exaggerating and being ridiculous.
Nope. That's the app. "Anonymous" sharing of pictures and info of other people. Presumably without their permission. That's fucked up.
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Yeah. I mean, I get it. The concept of the app makes sense. And I would be that, on average, it is/would be used for good.
On the other hand, as a guy, the idea that people are out there sharing reviews of me as a person on the open internet, and I have no way of knowing this, is deeply unsettling. Like, I haven't done anything wrong - just the whole concept feels very gross.
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My problem is how it's implemented.
An app where you simply post a name and a location, and then people can DM you with their experiences directly, would be a lot less invasive.
Sucks it's necessary.
You want women to not just assume youre an insane violent rape monster? Shit like this is how we know. Edit: the women who used this app were the ones who didn't want to asdume you were all subhuman filth, who wanted to protect themselves from the 'few bad apples' without doing splash damage, as they saw it, to the rest of you. And it looks like those naive idiots got proven wrong. There is no way to be safe as a woman or woman categorized person wirh men in your life, except for rare and astounding luck.
Or you could, like, fix your entire gender; idk. I'm still going to hate all of you.
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I kniw right? Its pretty fucked, but sometimes belief that people, or even men, are mostly good gets you raped or crawling through a puddle of your own blood with fewer than four functioning limbs.
Cynical bitches like me though; we tend to make it out.
as a woman or woman categorized person
Can't tell if you're being transphobic to trans femmes or supportive to femme leaning enbies.
If I wasn't participating in good faith I would've just assumed you were saying something transphobic from the start, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Then I said you sounded like you meant the positive (not the negative) of the two things I thought you meant and you said you didn't mean that. So... I'm not sure how you think I'm not participating in good faith when I did all that. Even now I'm not writing you off as a monster, I'm willing to hear what you have to say. I'm waiting for you to tell me what you meant, but you're just being vague and refusing.
I don't know what's more good faith than giving you two benefits of the doubt and willing to give a third if you'd just explain.
said didn't mean that
Confident I said no such thing. Cite me doing that. Dont actually, i just didn't, but go look at why you think that.
if you'd just explain
Read what i wrote. Or my explanation of it. I feel like i was as thorough as i could be without being condescending.
good faith and
Shame i didn't write anything after the clause
entire thread of howling misogynist shit heads glad a bunch of women got doxxed
I'm just about done with this fucking place and im done going out of my way to explain myself to people who arent making any effort to understand. Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours, and i don't need the internet to talk to myself-an activity that offers more gratification and novelty, while costing far less disillusionment and alienation.
benefit of the doubt
Think of me what you will. Hell, accuse me of being the spawn of robert galbraith and adolf hitler. I have very few fucks left to give about this place.
done
Damn. Seems i said that too early. But i feel like I'm done now.
Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours
I feel I've communicated well. You keep not explaining what you meant. I want to know. But you're refusing to tell me.
This was your explanation.
Well im talking about external interpretation of ones identity rather than one's intended expression, so you figure it out. Or don't.
I'm good faith, I assumed the best by saying this.
I'd say that's supportive of femme leaning enbies rather than transphobic towards trans women.
Rather than agree with me, you said this and refused to elaborate, going so far as to tell me to interpret as I like. When I only have two possible interpretations, one positive and one negative, I don't know what else you'd want me take away other than the negative.
There are other things it could be. Interperet as you like.
So I clarified, in good faith, it you meant the negative thing.
Wait, so you are being transphobic?
You were vague and refused to give any explanation. I thought it might be two things. When I asked if it was one of them, your response seems to heavily imply it wasn't that one, but refuse to give whatever third thing it might be.
That was one of the things you proposed. Im suggesting there are other potential meanings, that you did not propose. i will not be explaining what i do mean any farther than i have
So... What is it? Because you're saying that I am "not making an effort to understand" when I am in fact bending over backwards to give you benefit of the doubt and understand what you mean. You say communication has two sides and you're done trying to uphold mine when I am desperately seeking clarification on what you said but you just refuse to provide it.
I'm just about done with this fucking place and im done going out of my way to explain myself to people who arent making any effort to understand. Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours
What have I missed?
I think it depends on people's intent and purpose for using this service. I'm overall not a fan of someone taking and sharing pictures of me without my consent, or making claims that can't be defended...
The group of women legitimately using it for safety is fine, in a general sense.
The group of women using it as gossip and entertainment is not.
It promotes safety, but at the same time it promotes some toxicity in relationships. What would you think if you knew that if your got into a disagreement with your partner that you could end up posted on this app, without any way of arguing back?
Maybe I'm just getting old, but the idea of "verifying" my real identity to a faceless website or mobile app is abhorrent.
I guess it doesn't help that governments in some countries (UK, Australia that I know of) are encouraging this bullshit with Trojan horse laws claiming to protect children from adult websites / social media.
Can't help but think there is also an element of pot meet kettle here, when users of an app designed to dox and slander people without their knowledge are now the ones getting doxxed themselves.
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How does having my fingerprint prove my age.
The issue is, at some point, they have to connect your "digital you" to your self as a real person, after that they can track you, keep tabs on you. If that data was ever stolen, or a corrupt government rose to power, you're really screwed.
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Plus the whole moral aspect of such an app. While I agree that women have been mostly objectified their whole existence, this doesn’t help anyone.
We need to get rid of both superficial way of looking at each other ( women: seeking mostly young, beautiful, rich yes men, men: seeking perfect body, face, housewife stereotypes). Both mindsets are equally trash.
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If by "personal information" you mean sharing their experiences with certain people ... Yeah I guess.
They weren't sharing addresses and social security numbers or drivers license numbers or other things that would lead to identity theft.
How can you not have sympathy for these women getting doxxed because they wanted to help create a safer space for one another and to help each other out? That's wild.
This is far from turnabout, this is abuse.
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Oh my god that's... So stupid, i hate this time line.
Dirty water that would behave no different if you sifted out the proteins.
The replies in this thread are disturbing, giving me a sense that Lemmy has a misogyny problem; maybe I was naïve, but I expected outrage about 4chan doxxing women trying to protect one another, instead I see lots of revenge enjoyment as if being doxxed on 4chan is justice for ... warning one another about dangerous men they encounter when dating?
The inability to empathize and take seriously the threats posed to women or to understand their motivation to protect one another is alarming.
There is no good faith extended, but also no evidence presented that instead of safety the app was just for gossip, it's just taken as assumed that women are wrong for using Tea and they all deserve to be doxxed.
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Your comment was on top for me in my app, so I was like "oh how bad could it be.". Holy shit you're not wrong, there's some disgusting comments that are getting voted up.
I'm low-key disappointed and appalled by these community members who believe these women "deserve" it for ... Trying to help each other be safer?
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saw this happening here, saw it happening in reddit threads on the topic, saw it all over the media cycle in the comments.
i agree, people’s visceral backlash against this app is steeped in a deep misogyny. most of these comments have a vapid absence of any sort of even basic recognition towards these women as people. talking about them like they’re abstract figures or test subjects up in here.
watching people take somewhat valid privacy concerns as an excuse to let loose their most toxic feelings towards women used to be the sort of thing only losers or emboldened megalomaniacs did in public, even just a decade ago.
in the past years i’ve just seen all my peers, regardless of political affiliation, manipulated into a cult of outrage that serves as another hamster wheel upon which capital may spin.
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Let's say a vile, manipulative, entitled woman went on a Tinder date with a guy. He insists on splitting the bill rather than paying for her food. She feels insulted.
She then takes to Tea and her local Are We Dating The Same Guy Facebook group, slanders him with false accusations that he tried to sexually assault her, then posts his Tinder, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn profiles online. Suddenly he's being ostracized, receiving nasty messages and even loses his job from women bombarding his employer with negative phone calls, emails and comments about him.
Men have had their lives ruined by false allegations posted to AWDTSG communities before. But opposing the existence of these platforms is "misogyny", apparently.
This is a strawman argument, though. Sure, that can and does happen, but it isn't the existence of spaces like Tea that is problematic, it is the holistic relationship between men and women in our society, generally. Further, I'm clearly not saying opposing Tea is inherently misogyny. It is a very particular kind of reaction that I am talking about, and you know this.
Tea itself really isn't any worse than any other forum. You could have the same thing happen to a man on other platforms, there is nothing unique about Tea in that capacity and it is disingenuous to levy that criticism against the platform in isolation. People dislike it because they have a weird caricature of women in their head and assume every person on this app must have been a gossip or an evil person, yet there is no real basis for that claim other than the fact the audience is mainly women. Hence, the "misogyny," that you seem to not really have the prior life experience to see. You can look through my profile here. I've said plenty in support of men's rights and men's issues as well, I'm really not rabidly in coalition for a particular gender's rights or anything. I'm just calling it as I see it and the reaction to Tea on the web is largely sexist.
No one said false accusations aren't real or that opposing them makes you a misogynist. You're being intentionally obtuse and conflating a critique of people's treatment of women in public discourse with a critique of apps such as these generally to make it seem absurd to point out how sexist some of the reaction to Tea has been. Mostly because I think you saw the word "misogyny" thrown out and for some reason took it as a personal insult or something. I think most people would reflect upon that and I'd hope you would too.
I probably won't further respond because I'm getting the idea honest discourse and dialectic isn't your goal here.
The app enables the photos to be run through a reverse image search, enabling them to run a basic background check, check against public sex offender databases, and check for photos that might get flagged as being used in “catfishing” — misrepresenting one’s identity online.The app also features a “Tea Party Group Chat,” which allows users to directly share information about men, and has a rating function, which allows users to share their experiences with Yelp-style reviews, awarding men a “green flag” or a “red flag.”
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It's a bit like Rate My Professor, but for dating.
Honestly I cyncially expect this kind of app might inevitably exist for rating people of all genders (or that dating apps might incorporate this Uber-style rating system), but the reason this app exists has directly to do with the violence women face from intimate partners.
The point is that men who are enjoying the doxxing of women who have used this app are ignoring the context, or even have a warped sense of the context, as if this is narrowly about (legitimate) privacy concerns and the harms caused by the app.
Even if the concerns about the app are justified, the revenge enjoyment betrays a view much harder to defend, that all the women who used the app are equally cupable, or that doxxing women using the app is equivalent to women doxxing abusive men through the app.
Men are not all equally privileged, but there is a broad inequality both to how violence is distributed and how that plays out in dating situations. Women are not wrong to fear men. One in three women have experienced sexual or physical violence, most of that violence being perpetuated by men.
Since this is the context for the use of this app, it's not neutral to doxx its users or to claim it's fair because men feel (legitimate) concerns about the app's privacy violations.
Facts and figures: Ending violence against women | UN Women – Headquarters
The availability of data on violence against women and girls has improved considerably in recent years and data on the prevalence of intimate partner violence is now available for at least 161 countries.UN Women – Headquarters
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I agree 100% that women face many more dangers especially in the dating scene than men. I'm all for having resources available for them to remain as safe as possible.
I don't see how a Rate My Professor type app would work well for dates. I feel like people would only spend the time to rate poor dates. If you had a really good date with someone, you would presumably start dating them so why would you let everyone else know they are a good person to go out with? I have no doubt there are some awful people out there that others should be warned about, but this type of app is a bit too risky to justify that in my opinion.
The background check feature sounds much more legit, but I don't think a group chat feature needs to exist along side it.
All that being said, anyone enjoying the doxxing of others is just an asshole. There's definitely nothing fair about it from either side.
yeah, the app has obvious flaws, and the Rate My Professor style approach succeeds or fails depending on the quality of the users and moderators, and could easily be useless or become toxic - either way, I'm not defending this aspect of the app, it's clearly problematic.
Regardless I understand why women would want a resource like this, and that doesn't seem true for those in the comments who see the doxxing as deserved for using this app.
Nevermind the rest of the context, like 4chan being a bastion of right-wing, misogynist trolls who would target an app like this for political reasons.
Lemmy users approving 4chan doxxing women is a major red flag ... it might have something to do with how many Lemmy users come here due to being banned for their behavior on Reddit. Reddit isn't sending their best and brightest, and it shows. (This is just my speculation, though.)
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There is some of that happening, like when women get together and discuss how they're being treated it's "gossip" and implied as immoral.
I think some men might read what you've said and think you are denying any toxic gossip exists, it's important to have nuance and not alienate men who otherwise would be allies, but I think overall your point is well taken.
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Say a woman breaks up with a man for petty reasons, like the guy switching the channel on TV, or even the other way around.
And she decides to make up reprehensible shit about him on that app.
He essentialy becomes undatable, and he does not know why.
Ok fine. Dark Voice "Sacrifice the men! It's for the greater good!"
Though I am unironically anti-natalist, and misanthropic, so everyone being single (or well, gay/lesbian) is fine with me personally.
Ok fine. Dark Voice "Sacrifice the men! It's for the greater good!"
Do you really think that's the alternative here?
I can't tell if you're putting on a bit based on your username or something...
I'm also Misanthropic and so done with society. I don't have the same stakes in it as everyone else.
I understand why women have to do what they have to, and someone must lose here. To prevent horrible cases of rape and abuse, some innocent men will have to be rendered undatable.
On top of that, dating will become a lot like how job searches are nowadays. Have a gap in your err...dating resume? Something is wrong with you, no date.
A wise thing to do is for men to have their own "Tea" type of app to balance things out. I see no reason not to.
The best advice of course, is to just not date. Whether we like it or not, there are too many people, and they have been irrevocably damaged by pollution, trauma, and poor education practices.
Few of us are wanted in this world (and I don't just mean romantically, and I don't just mean men). When there is too many of us, we behave like locusts, devouring everything. The solution is stop pumping out babies, consuming useless products, or feeling enitled to other's things. This world does not want you, and you should not want it either
I have meet so so so many broken people who have to suffer through no fault of their own, and I had to play the part of support to them. Because really, no one else gave a damn.
You are a truly disgusting species. If there was something to define evil by, it would be the opposite of good. There are many types of good, and humans somehow manage to run counter to it. But the worst thing they do, is betray and cannibalize their own kind.
If you don't want to be kind, don't want to pay taxes, don't want to include others, then you don't fucking deserve it either. It is a choice that can be made at any time, yet so many refuse, can't even wrap their heads around it.
You can be child-free and still be married. Anyway.
A wise thing to do is for men to have their own "Tea" type of app to balance things out. I see no reason not to.
This would probably be an equal breach of privacy for less gain.
Female Tea (if used properly) is about protecting women from being abused.
Male Tea would probably be more about flagging girls that want expensive dates and don't put out.
Like, sure, go ahead. Have a male Tea app. But the stakes are not the same.
Tea could easily be used for two extremely different purposes:
- Legitimate use to inform and protect women from abusive men
- Illegitimate use to spread misinformation (libel!) about men with no verification of truth or reasonable appeal process
The idea of Tea isn't bad-- I've thought about the potential utility of similar apps myself-- but most people who are reacting badly are recognizing that it's a nearly impossible moderation problem that will be used for bad things too.
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of course, the app has obvious problems, but I don't see that as justifying the gloating and sense of revenge enjoyment happening.
Instead I see a kind of discontent about women I find concerning, which seems ignorant of the widespread violence women experience or what it's like for women who take risks when dating men.
Men are not all equally problematic or privileged, but they are generally in a position of power relative to women and are acting like the victims here.
They should direct their discontent to patriarchy which creates the situation where violence against women is dismissed or accepted, and which motivates women to use apps to check if the person they are dating has a history of violent behavior.
Patriarchy which perpetuates the narrative that men are natural predators and women natural prey is what victimizes men here, not the women who rightfully fear and feel victimized by the minority of men who are violent.
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I think you are misunderstanding why people are upset.
It's horrible that these women were doxxed.
It's also horrible that a subset of women were doxxing men, which is what brought this negative attention to the site.
Misogyny is real in our society, misandry is real.
Saying things happen for sexist reasons when it was for a logical reason does a disservice to movements that seek equality.
The internet also cheered on the 4chan PII leak that happened recently, not becauase it's a male dominant space, but because they do shitty things like dox people.
The need for it was not part of my point. The point was a gender flipped app would of course cause some outrage. Immediately there would be people cry "it's just for doxxing, stalking and revenge porn".
But to engage in some good Faith dialoige. Are some men concerned for their safety, yes.
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I don't quite understand the outrage in the thread. I've been looking through the comments, trying to see if this ever went beyond gossip and I can't find anything.
From my understanding the app was intended to be a safe space for women to discuss dating. Relaying information about dangerous individuals, or people who cheat. I can imagine that things might have gotten slightly out of hand in regards to anonymous gossip, but is that anything compared to being doxxed? Besides, women, and men have been gossiping behind each others backs for as long as humans have existed. An anonymous app makes it significantly worse certainly, but it is what it is. This behavior is always going to exist for better or for worse. For example, people already discuss this on sites like fetlife since the risk of ending up with someone who wants to batter you for the sake of battering you is somewhat high there.
Surely we can have some sympathy for people who have had their identifications doxxed by 4chan who haven't done anything worse than a bit of toxic gossip at most?
you're right as far it's intentions go. I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about what it intended to do what I have a MASSIVE issue with is that it did the EXACT opposite of what it "intended to do."
It didn't provide Women with a "safe space" because women's government issued IDs and their personal selfies were, quite literally, OUT IN THE OPEN. It opened Women who used the app to way more harm.
Their database, and i'm being extremely generous when I call it that, wasn't even password protected. not even a simple plain text password like "password123" there was NO password. at all. period. All I would have had to do was simply see where the app sent the scanned ID's, open a terminal, SSH into it WITHOUT A PASSWORD OR KEY, and then I now have access to the IDs of over 13,000 Women. Hell I probably wouldn't have even had to SSH into it, probably could have opened the damn thing from a web browser.
So when the media is saying 4chan "leaked" this stuff again they're being generous. It's like if you were walking down the street that Tea lived on and you noticed they left their door wide open so you decided to peak your head inside and while peaking your head in you noticed a box right by the door that had thousands of IDs in it so you picked up the box and walked out. Chances are other people got to this box before 4chan did, many people probably did, it's just that 4chan were the only ones to say "Hey I found this house with a wide open door and decided to pick up this box with all these IDs in it, neat huh?"
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I can't open the article, but I think I read that this was hosted on an unprotected bucket. Assuming that's correct I wouldn't say this was a breach. A better headline would be "Women dating safety app 'Tea' exposed women's PII".
To be 100% clear, I'm not excusing the hackers. I don't believe it's morally correct to publicize something because it is exposed. For folks curious about that you can look into how to ethically disclose vulnerabilities. I still view this as doxxing. I still believe what the hackers did should be a criminal offense, it's just that I also believe the app holds a ton of the blame as well. How can you proclaim to be about keeping women safe while putting them at risk? That should be punished as well.
Like if the storage facility you trusted to hold your stuff never had locks on the doors, shouldn't they take a lot of the blame as well as the thief who found out a door was unlocked?
One of the definitions of hacking is illegally gaining access to a computer system. It doesn't need to involve any sort of exploit. Stealing from an unlocked home is still stealing. Gaining access to a system by phishing is still hacking. Leaking data that is technically publicly accessible that isn't meant to be publicly accessible is still hacking.
Not that I suspect anything good from 4chan but the proper thing to do would be to disclose to Tea that their data is public and allow them to fix the problem. The ethics of vulnerability disclosure still apply when the vulnerability is "hey you literally didn't secure this at all."
Tea is the offshoot of all those "Are We Dating The Same Guy" Facebook groups where ladies gossip, talk shit, slander and creep-shame guys they went on dates with, sometimes throwing around false accusations maliciously to get men ostracized.
On one hand, damn these groups are toxic as fuck and that makes me feel a lot less sympathetic. But on the other hand, this is a textbook argument for why mandatory age verification laws need to be abolished. AWDTSG works as a way to keep women safe when it's used as intended but there are too many women that will slander men with false allegations purely out of spite.
Right, because only women are the problem, and men are paragons of virtue.
Fuck off
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan | 404 Media
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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"People should be aware that children and adults who use [certain software] to bypass age checks will not benefit from the wider protections offered by our online safety rules."
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