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Thai PM says dispute with Cambodia could 'escalate into a state of war'


Thailand and Cambodia exchanged heavy artillery fire for a second day on Friday as their worst fighting in over a decade intensified and spread to new areas, despite international calls for a ceasefire.

At least 16 people have been killed and tens of thousands displaced in the escalating border battle.

Both sides have blamed each other for starting the conflict and on Friday ratcheted up the rhetoric, with Thailand accusing Cambodia of deliberately targeting civilians and Cambodia alleging Thailand was using cluster munitions, a controversial and widely condemned ordnance.

in reply to Stamau123

double posted.
cbc.ca/news/world/thailand-cam…


Thai PM says dispute with Cambodia could 'escalate into a state of war'


Thailand and Cambodia exchanged heavy artillery fire for a second day on Friday as their worst fighting in over a decade intensified and spread to new areas, despite international calls for a ceasefire.

At least 16 people have been killed and tens of thousands displaced in the escalating border battle.

Both sides have blamed each other for starting the conflict and on Friday ratcheted up the rhetoric, with Thailand accusing Cambodia of deliberately targeting civilians and Cambodia alleging Thailand was using cluster munitions, a controversial and widely condemned ordnance.


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Thai PM says dispute with Cambodia could 'escalate into a state of war'


Thailand and Cambodia exchanged heavy artillery fire for a second day on Friday as their worst fighting in over a decade intensified and spread to new areas, despite international calls for a ceasefire.

At least 16 people have been killed and tens of thousands displaced in the escalating border battle.

Both sides have blamed each other for starting the conflict and on Friday ratcheted up the rhetoric, with Thailand accusing Cambodia of deliberately targeting civilians and Cambodia alleging Thailand was using cluster munitions, a controversial and widely condemned ordnance.

in reply to rezz

As far as I understand, it's still a bit unclear.

Thailand claims Cambodian troops were approaching a Thai border guard station and started firing towards the Thai soldiers, leading to the Thai soldiers firing back.

Cambodia claims the patrol was walking the regular route, and Thai soldiers suddenly opened fire towards them.

Obviously one (or both) is lying, and the situation escalated quickly.

in reply to TaTTe

AP News includes this overview:

The contesting claims stem largely from a 1907 map drawn under French colonial rule that was used to separate Cambodia from Thailand. Cambodia has been using the map as a reference to claim territory, while Thailand has argued the map is inaccurate.


Contact Restored with Gaza-Bound Aid Ship Handala Amid Fears of Israeli Attack


Communications have been restored and the Freedom Flotilla ship Handala remains en route and on mission to challenge the blockade of Gaza. 19 Human Rights Defenders and 2 Journalists from 12 countries are on board.

in reply to Davriellelouna

She's probably got something on them at this point, she's got them on a chokehold, probably like "if I go down, you go down with me" type shiii.



OpenAI’s ChatGPT Agent casually clicks through “I am not a robot” verification test


"This step is necessary to prove I'm not a bot," wrote the bot as it passed an anti-AI screening step.

Technology reshared this.

in reply to IO 😇

Meanwhile google slapped me with nine captchas to fill out a form like wtf?
in reply to Ice

Lemme guess... traffic lights, too many motorcycles, and buses? There was something "wrong" with your cookies cache or IP. Google just straight fucks with you if it sees network traffic it doesn't like.
in reply to Final Remix

i never know what's expected on those type of captcha. if the handle bars of a bike go into an adjacent box and are 99% covered by a hand does that count? what do you do when you have a blurry image full of jpg artifacts and are asked to identify if it contains a fire hydrant. I'm pretty sure it usually classifies me as a bot for being too exact since I'm asked follow ups for a few minutes until i give up and just close the tab out of annoyance.
in reply to kewjo

That's kind of the point, though. You're teaching their AI how to make those decisions.
in reply to JcbAzPx

Am I? Or does it think I'm a bot?

I guess it's on brand for Google to try and squeeze more value out of a product by making it worse for users. Just like Prabhakar Raghavan ruined Google search.

in reply to Final Remix

"Hold on, you gotta wait for another picture of a bus to load. Nevermind that it now inexplicably takes 10 seconds to load the fucking picture"
in reply to IO 😇

Wow, agents built to monitor and reflect human behaviour, accurately model and reproduce human behaviour.

This is what is what shits me off when people complain "Oh this AI isn't real AI" or "This isn't consciousness" The limiting factor is is the training data. Humans have just had a few more million years of training data passed on through genetics. It's replication and fakery all the way down. If this is you, if you fucking need the reassurance that you are better at being fucking conscious compare to a machine fuck the fuck right off and go do something amazing with it then. Compose something. Create something. Feel the wind in your hair and the sand at your feet. Fuck off, we're all dirt.


in reply to Davriellelouna

I know we're not supposed to judge a book by its cover but this guy looks like the kind of pedo grifter the regime is absolutely packed with


The Netherlands to impose travel ban on Israeli ministers over Gaza


cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/33638062
#News


Open Telegram Group with 100,000+ Members (Now Private): Cross-Border Voyeurism Ring Sharing Covert Footage and Contact Details of Chinese Women and Children


They never knew they were being filmed — on subway trains, in mall fitting rooms, on university campuses, at home.

Since late June, a Chinese-language Telegram group chat named “MaskPark Treehole Forum,” reportedly with over 103,000 members, has sparked outrage on Chinese social media for circulating obscene covert footage.

Secret intimate recordings of women and individuals having sex were captured using hidden cameras disguised as screws, power sockets, and even bottles of toilet cleaner — and those sharing them could be a colleague, a classmate, or even a family member.

The revelations triggered widespread outrage on Chinese social media, drawing broad coverage from domestic news outlets.

State-backed outlet Guangming Daily called the case “exceptionally egregious” and urged swift regulatory action in a commentary, saying: “Regulators must move faster to fill the gaps, and law enforcement mechanisms need to be strengthened. Only by doing so can we enhance the overall sense of security, free women from the fear of being watched, and make the boundaries of privacy truly inviolable.”



US Drops Sanctions on Myanmar Junta Allies After Trump Praise


The United States has lifted sanctions on several allies of Myanmar’s ruling general and their military-linked firms, a US Treasury notice shows, after the junta chief sent a glowing letter of praise to President Donald Trump.

https://www.irrawaddy.com/news/burma/us-drops-sanctions-on-myanmar-junta-allies-after-trump-praise.html

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in reply to RandAlThor

Trump abandoning something because it's harder than his pedo brain thought it would be? No way.
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in reply to RandAlThor

Israel never wanted a negotiated ceasefire because they’re the ones doing all the firing. Has Gaza shot back in the last 18 months?


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I'm cool with that, too.


Gaza running out of specialised food to save malnourished children


Gaza is on the brink of running out of the specialised therapeutic food needed to save the lives of severely malnourished children, United Nations and humanitarian agencies say.

”We are now facing a dire situation, that we are running out of therapeutic supplies,” Salim Oweis, a spokesperson for Unicef in Amman, Jordan, told Reuters on Thursday, saying supplies of Ready-to-Use Therapeutic Food (RUTF), a crucial treatment, would be depleted by mid-August if nothing changed.

”That’s really dangerous for children as they face hunger and malnutrition at the moment,” he added.

Oweis said Unicef had only enough RUTF left to treat 3,000 children. In the first two weeks of July alone, Unicef treated 5,000 children facing acute malnutrition in Gaza.

Nutrient-dense, high-calorie RUTF supplies, such as high-energy biscuits and peanut paste enriched with milk powder, are critical for treating severe malnutrition.

”Most malnutrition treatment supplies have been consumed and what is left at facilities will run out very soon if not replenished,” a World Health Organization spokesperson said on Thursday.

in reply to greenfire

What can I do to help? It's absolutely fucked that world governments are just allowing this to happen. The US or France or Germany could literally just roll in with an armed fleet and say that they are there to prevent civilian deaths, any attempts to fire upon, accidentally or on purpose, will be met with such swift and stark retribution that the Devil itself will be jealous of the hellfire achieved that day. Do not fuck with us or you will regret it.

I can only dream. The freedom flotilla tried to sail there to bring food and find a path.

So what can I do?

in reply to Alteon

Are you American or European? Mailbomb your representative to tell them to stop this Holocaust.

Download Boycat or No Thanks app. Use your consumer power to boycott products that are supporting the genocide and apartheid of Palestinians.

in reply to greenfire

If only there were a huge trove of nutrient dense biscuits nearby. Too bad that one that did exist was incinerated by the Tump regime just days ago. A tragic coincidence I'm sure. /s
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No evidence Hamas stole Gaza humanitarian aid, USAID report shows


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/44726136
in reply to schizoidman

Meanwhile there has been videos of Israeli soldiers eating food they stole from UN shipments.

Every accusation is a confession.

in reply to schizoidman

I mean....who cares if Hamas steals some of the food? Are we thinking that the few remaining Hamas members are capable of eating it all, or that the war has been so ineffective that they have a huge military force able to eat enough food to feed hundreds of thousands of people's worth of aid?

It's such an obvious excuse to just starve an entire population that it's a huge shame that every journalist and politician doesn't call them out on it. Israel has become a nation that exists in a constant state of cognitive disorder.

in reply to TranscendentalEmpire

I believe the conspiracy theory is that they're destroying it to make Israel look bad
in reply to TranscendentalEmpire

Israeli estimates are that Hamas has gone from 20.000 armed forces members in october 2023 to 40.000 now.


The rise and fall of the British cult that hid in plain sight


The long read: Philippa Barnes was a child when her family joined the Jesus Fellowship. As an adult, she helped expose the shocking scale of abuse it had perpetrated
in reply to Lucky_777

We don't need Freedom OF Religion, we need Freedom FROM Religion.
in reply to LadyButterfly she/her

Lately I have been watching that cult experts videos and one thing that caught me was when he talked about mlm's being cults which I experienced with my sister being into an mlm. It sorta blows my mind how expansive this type of thing is without us even realizing it. One thing I wonder about is Im signed up for this thing that is basically supposed to be about getting focus groups. Twice now I have seen ones advertised looking for no particular thing just wants opinions and is 8 or 9 fucking hours long with a decent enough payoff but WTF! I have not responded to them because immediately I felt its at best a time share pitch or something and at worst a cult. Well you signed a paper that said you would be here for nine hours.

in reply to orca

I don't think I've paid more than that for a pixel, and I have bought a 256 GB Pixel before. I feel like that $600 apple phone has 32 GB storage or something absurd



(Top 10) The real computing was the time we wasted without Internet


Nowadays, it's easy to feel a sense of unease, of impending void, the moment we find ourselves with a computer without an Internet connection.

stuff.octt.eu.org/2025/07/the-…



Spanish airline denies allegations of antisemitism after removing French Jewish group from flight


cross-posted from: feddit.org/post/16240024

Around 50 Jewish children and their 21-year-old summer camp director were removed from a flight from Valencia to Paris on Wednesday, Israeli media reported.

Vueling said in a statement that the teenage passengers displayed “highly disruptive behavior, putting the safe conduct of the flight at risk.”

The airline said the group tampered with emergency equipment and disrupted the mandatory safety demonstration, repeatedly ignoring cabin crew instructions.

"Despite several warnings, the inappropriate conduct persisted, which forced the immediate activation of established safety protocols," the airline said, adding that the crew then, acting with "complete professionalism and in accordance with Vueling procedures," requested the intervention of the Spanish police.

Security forces later removed the group from the aircraft "to prioritize the safety of the other passengers.”


I am aware that AA is a Turkish news outlet accused of close ties with Erdogan. Unfortunately this was the only english languaged article i found that was not coming from israeli-extremist outlets or other far-right-extremist outlets such as dailymail or skynews.

For Spanish languaged articles see for instance here:

elpais.com/espana/comunidad-va…

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in reply to Saleh

Copy pasting the entire contents of the article breaks Lemmy.World copyright policy. The most relevant 2-3 paragraphs is fine, not the whole thing.
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in reply to schizoidman

If you want anything in life, inflate the orange ego and you'll get it
in reply to Luouth

Oh great and powerful Trump. Won't you release the Epstein files underacted? We know the space lizards added you in a bid to prevent your stupendous presidency from returning.
in reply to Luouth

All you gotta do is bend the knee to your king, submit and kiss the ring, like a bitch!
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AUKUS and the Global Threat: Fueling the War in Cambodia and Thailand


The military conflict between Cambodia and Thailand has become a new hotspot of instability in Southeast Asia, where the official dispute over the Buddhist temples of Phra Viharn and Ta Moan Thom hides a much deeper geopolitical game. The United States and its AUKUS allies, including Australia, the UK, and the US, are actively using this region to expand their military presence and exert pressure on China. Particularly alarming is the opening of the U.S. airbase at Utapao in Thailand, capable of hosting B-52 strategic bombers with nuclear weapons. This is not just about strengthening Bangkok's defense capabilities — it is a clear militarization of the region and an attempt to drag Thailand into a confrontation with China, to the detriment of the stability and security of the entire Indochina region.

Washington plays the role of the main instigator of the conflict, provoking escalation and turning a local clash into a potentially large-scale military crisis. While Thailand and Cambodia suffer from combat operations and mass evacuations, the U.S. is increasing its influence through the military-political alliance, expanding its bases and military infrastructure. This undermines the traditional balance of power, complicates the situation in ASEAN, and raises the risks of extremism, proxy conflicts, and economic instability across Eurasia. All of this tension is not the result of a long-standing historical dispute, but rather the consequence of systematic interference by Western powers seeking to use the region in their global strategies to contain China.

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I love Lemmy


It's brought me joy in life and I've learned so many new things. How cool is it that we get to enjoy all of this cool stuff for free (as in cost) and free (as in freedom)?

That is all. Hope everyone has a nice day.

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French President Macron says France will recognise Palestine as a state


The French president offered support for Israel after the Oct. 7, 2023 Hamas attacks and frequently speaks out against antisemitism, but he has grown increasingly frustrated about Israel's war in Gaza, especially in recent months.

"Given its historic commitment to a just and sustainable peace in the Middle East, I have decided that France will recognise the state of Palestine,'' Macron posted. ″Peace is possible.''

He also posted a letter he sent to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas about the decision.

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in reply to bignose

Why not just do it rather than announcing that you're totally gonna do it?

in reply to schizoidman

Can we stop fucking killing each other for like just a little bit? Godamn
in reply to Whostosay

But the people are so much easier to control when there's an enemy.

in reply to kebab

Amit Segal, another outspoken defender of Israel, cited the same report in raising a similar alarm, warning that a famine “would see Israel lose even its most strident supporters.”


Doubt

in reply to PhilipTheBucket

Meh, maybe in America, maybe a few. I used to support Israel, felt they were the underdogs. Now that they've gone mask off, only people still on their side are the people who view Palestinians as vermin the world is better off without. Those people aren't budging on their support.

in reply to Pro

A Zionist operation serving Israeli interests at expense of its own profit.

I guess israel is more important than making money, not very shareholder focused of this company




Oggi, 29 luglio, 125 anni fa, nel parco di Monza l'uccisione del Re d'Italia Umberto I


Da Wikipedia it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regici…

Il re era stato invitato alla cerimonia di chiusura della società di ginnastica Forti e Liberi in via Matteo da Campione: dopo essere arrivato in carrozza e aver assistito agli esercizi ginnici ed al discorso di premiazione del prof. Draghino, si avviò verso la carrozza alle 21:30 per tornare a Villa Reale. Mentre usciva dal portone, dove c'era una folla di ginnasti, si avvicinò Gaetano Bresci che lo colpì tre volte con il revolver, sparando il quarto colpo a vuoto. Il Re fu colpito sia al volto che alla gola.
I cavalli si imbizzarrirono e il re venne portato il prima possibile a Villa Reale, ma vi giunse esanime. Bresci venne circondato dai carabinieri, coi quali ebbe una colluttazione, strappò a uno di loro la divisa e infine venne catturato dal maresciallo dei carabinieri Locatelli in collaborazione con un pompiere e portato nella guardina della caserma dei carabinieri. Il re, affidato ai medici chirurghi Vincenzo Vercelli e Attilio Savio (quest'ultimo anche assessore comunale), venne da loro dichiarato morto alle 22:40.

#umbertoI
#gaetanobresci
#regicidio

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The Australian government recalls Google Pixel 6a


cross-posted from: lazysoci.al/post/31141099


Hungary bans Irish rap group Kneecap from entering ahead of festival performance


The POV presented in the article is one POV in Hungary, the country is divided on the issue but mostly does not care beyond a small minority.

People cite the band shouting "Up Hamas, up Hezbollah" on as justification for the ban.

in reply to ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝

Lol, banned from Hungary is a badge of honour. Orban doesn't get to lecture anyone on anything.
in reply to ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝

CEARTA

“Is cuma liom sa foc faoi aon gharda!”

(I don’t give a fuck about any cop)

I’ve been listening to these guys for years, and thanks to the Streisand effect, Bob Vylan is now in my playlist too. Death death to the IDF

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Anti-Hungarian hate graffiti and arson in Ukraine: A coordinated false flag operation involving the Orbán Cabinet?


I know it's not the best source, but all the relevant news from outlets that are not outright Russian disinfo are only in Hungarian.

These are trusted, well read and researched articles in Hungarian if you want to check:

hu.euronews.com/2025/07/19/a-h…

telex.hu/kulfold/2025/07/20/uk…

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in reply to floofloof

Why has liberal-ruled Britain become attack dogs for Israel?
in reply to RandAlThor

Britain was never liberal.

The very same people harping about "gay rights" would also be writing scatting opinion articles against something or other they believe was a moral perversion (for example, men who used sex dolls) with not the least bit self-awareness about how those articles were very much like those that used to be written against homosexuality, just with a different group being targeted.

The middle class in that place is big on doing what is fashionable and makes them look good socially (keeping up with appearances) which means certain minorities which are now fashionable to support get a lot of loud, performative support, but those actions are seldom driven by actual Principles about Freedom (quite the contrary, the place is big on people "knowing their place" and has a ton of laws meant to silence and push-back on those who are loudly contrarians outside a few "permitted" domains).

Having lived in a couple of places in Europe, including Britain and The Netherlands, in my opinion Britain is actually unusually conservative for an European country.

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in reply to RandAlThor

Well, it's American-style "liberal": hard neoliberal with some of performative (rather than principled) moral liberalism.

It's definitely not Liberal in the sense of taking a principled stance for people's freedom, as made painfully obvious by what they're doing against anti-Genocide protestors.

I would even say they're more towards the Authoritarian side than the Liberal one.

in reply to RandAlThor

Money says AIPAC money bought their politicians like they have in America. If I could wipe any organization off the Earth, AIPAC would be right behind Fox News. Fucking poison.
in reply to shalafi

I just don't get how AIPAC has so much leverage over the US
in reply to FEIN

Lobbyists spend very little money to catch political ears. Look into it! I have. Stunning that a major company can drop $20,000 in pocket change and get in their pants.

AIPIC has got extra juice! Since WWII, being branded an anti-Semite is political poison. They don't have to spend much money, just tell the pol, "Do as I say or we go scorched Earth on your happy ass!" Works. FFS, we have video and images of Israel actively committing genocide, murdering woman and children and people trying to get food. And what are the headlines? "$group warns of genocide!" "$group warns of mass starvation!" You mean shit that's already happening YESTERDAY?!

Try saying anything negative, in any way, in any venue, use the word Jew. You will be excoriated and banned. Notice how every single post here makes certain to make the distinction between "Jew" and "Zionist"? I mean, it's true, preaching to the choir guys, but the eggshell fire-walking is kinda nuts. And Jews don't seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.

Not being snarky, I'm actually afraid to use the word, anywhere. That's how deep the insanity goes. Watch me catch a ban for saying I'm uncomfortable using "Jew", in any context. Watch 12 people explain that Jews are not necessarily Zionists. I GET that. But someone will comment!

in reply to shalafi

(can't edit my own posts)

For context, I'm a 54yo atheist and had always supported Israel. Poor underdogs! Nah. Now Israel is the Third Reich, and fuck them, all of their supporters.

Sickening how we have to repeat history every time our grandparents die out.

in reply to shalafi

And Jews don’t seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.


Maybe I'm the commenter you're looking for, but this seems like an overgeneralization. I have several Jewish friends who are under no illusions about Israel, and who are quite clear about how Netanyahu and his ilk are consciously and cynically fueling antisemitism, not least by throwing around accusations if it against anyone who criticizes the genocide they are perpetrating. So saying "Jews don't seem to have [any] clue" feels heavy-handed.

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in reply to shalafi

Labour had to defend themselves against anti-semitism claims for years (usually from extremely low level Muslim councillors), so now they're going the other way entirely. And Tories aren't going to get in the way of that, because they fucking love cruelty.

But the next prime minister of the UK is going to be the one who promises to bring back all the free porn, so we don't have to ask for permission to have a wank to take our mind off everything.

in reply to RandAlThor

Because liberalism is a hypocritical ideology.

The USA built itself off genocide and colonialism and has spent the last three centuries expanding its empire to every continent (and has long-since been an attack dog for Israel).

France endorsed liberty, equality, and fraternity at home and horrors abroad in Haiti and Algeria.

To the credit of the Liberal Party, they were much less imperialist than the Whigs they derived from or Tories. This is not to say that they were truly opposed to imperialism. Cecil Rhodes was a Liberal.

In all of these cases, the colonial adventures did not occur despite liberalism but were justified by it. We must bring enlightened civilization to the savages, you see. Locke and Mill, two foundational British figures of liberalism, were both supporters of colonialism.

in reply to floofloof

Astonishing this kind of fascist action can take place under a labour government
in reply to floofloof

I would like the conservative party to be the conservative party and the labour party to be the labour party 🙁
in reply to ztwhixsemhwldvka

So would a lot of people, and there was a chance of that with Jeremy Corbyn until the right-wingers in Labour stabbed him in the back with the help of the Tories and all of the media. They are terrified of workers figuring out where their real interests lie.

Interesting to read yesterday that Corbyn is forming a new party. It's a big mountain to climb and he's no spring chicken, but if it's done right the UK could once again have a party true to Labour's original principles.

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in reply to ztwhixsemhwldvka

The Labour Party is just a mainstream party from a system with First Past The Post (where power is pretty much a doupoly) which was captured and the ideology of those who captured it isn't even left of center.

Remember that not that long ago they were purging Leftwingers in that party.

They're Neoliberals so far to the Right that they're actively supporting a foreign ethno-Fascist regime committing a Genocide along ethnic lines now entering a Holocaust phase, and do so using authoritarian measures against the population of their own country, all of this whilst wearing a Labour Party suit.

I lived in Britain for over a decade until a little after the Leave Referendum and kept track of British politics for a while after that, and this surprises me not one bit after the style and nature of the coup against Jeremy Corbyn done by the very people now in Government there.


in reply to Twoafros

Very cool, just used it and found a bunch of new accounts to follow. Thanks!
in reply to Twoafros

I find it doubtful and regret using it. It showed me a bunch of people I already follow, and proposed that I follow them. I'm expecting to get some spam now :/

in reply to mesa

One final nail in the open web coffin, just hammer it in there real good. RIP.
in reply to mesa

I've switched to startpage and have no complaints. Not that Google has deployed much of its latest crap in Europe, but it's been shit for quite some time anyway.

in reply to Pearl

fuck nvidia

also fuck Donald Trump, illiterate pedophile fuck.




BBC News and news agencies warn journalists in Gaza at risk of starvation


"We once again urge the Israeli authorities to allow journalists in and out of Gaza. It is essential that adequate food supplies reach the people there."
In a separate joint statement, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam, said their colleagues and the people they serve were "wasting away".
But Israel, which controls the entry of supplies into Gaza, has accused the charities of "serving the propaganda of Hamas".
in reply to MyEdgyAlt

But Israel, which controls the entry of supplies into Gaza, has accused the charities of “serving the propaganda of Hamas”.


when reality has an anti-IDF bias


in reply to brachiosaurus

I guess we can't expect any orcanization to step in the "negotiations"... right?
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Germany Approves Deployment Of Two Taliban Diplomats To Berlin, Bonn as part of efforts to facilitate the deportation of Afghan nationals with criminal convictions




India's illegal expulsions to Bangladesh target Muslims




Governors Urge Japan Govt to Address Population Decline


in reply to alphacyberranger

Earth's population was meant to decline. Degrowth of a sort, because 8 billion is too many.

Why have children when their future is guarenteed to be fucked?

in reply to StinkyFingerItchyBum

8 billion people isnt too many people if resources were used appropriately and we had less severe inequality. The real issue is that of the 8 billion people on earth, way too many of them are on the older side and no society has a good plan to deal with it. South Korea has been doing some interesting things with turning children’s infrastructure, like elementary schools and daycares, into daycare for aging seniors. Theres a lot of overlap in the need for physically safe environments and their recreational activities, so it makes sense. But its not a holistic solution

The world population is virtually guaranteed to cap out at about 10B people in 2050 or so before entering decline, and at that point virtually every country in the world will be dealing with the same issue Japan, South Korea, Italy, etc are dealing with right now. There wont be enough young people to care for the old people because the majority of countries are already seeing below replacement level births right now.

As much as people think overpopulation is an issue, we will never have to deal with that problem. The problem we will actually have to deal with is steep population decline, caused by periods in the past where some or almost all countries had birth levels well over necessary replacement levels

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in reply to ToastedRavioli

I don't want my children or anyone elses to take care of me, or other old folks. No one should place that burden on our youth. When it's time, its time. I'm reminded of a friend who had to take leave off work because his dad was in a home and couldn't feed himself and they had insufficient staff to care for the old folks feedings and washings. What a disgusting way to live. I'll never be that burden on anyone.

I'll take care of myself and when I can't do that anymore I'll take care of myself. ಠ_ಠ

With any luck, society will learn sensible limits to eldercare.

in reply to StinkyFingerItchyBum

You do you. After slaving away to support the capitalist utopia for 50 years, if all I need it someone to come by and stuff some mashed potatoes in my mouth and I'm not otherwise in any pain or hardship, that seems like a reasonable enough trade to me.
in reply to cornshark

If you can't stuff mashed potatoes in your own mouth, what are you living for?
in reply to ToastedRavioli

Agreed with all that except that I think 8 billion is way too damned high. 73% of the animals on this planet have disappeared since I was was born, and back then we had "only" 3.7 billion people. I've seen radical declines in my local ecosystem in just the last 5 years. That's in a hood on the very edge of town, surrounded by rivers, creeks, woods and swamps.

People blame global warming, but that's very recent and only the tip of the iceberg. Human activity is directly killing everything.

in reply to StinkyFingerItchyBum

Thats something i think of daily, and i have 2 kids.

It was a mistake, i am sorry for them, for their future.

in reply to StinkyFingerItchyBum

We don't have too many people!

We have too many greedy and sociopathic people. We currently have the tech and knowledge to provide (of course not over night) for every human... While also protecting and restoring the environment. We don't have a space or resource problem. We have a economic system(s) and morality problem.

in reply to StinkyFingerItchyBum

Because when western society says too many people, they mean too many POC. I know you mean everyone should be having less children, but it's impossible to apply that logic equally everywhere. Improve everyone's standards (through wealth equity) of living and the population will naturally reduce then stabilize.
in reply to NatakuNox

Yes, we do have too many. While we could provide for 8 billion, that many humans is destroying our ecosystems.

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World population has more than doubled in my lifetime. Society might be able to support 8 billion, the planet cannot.