Revealed: “Skyrocketing” scale of UK police's Secret Facial Recognition Searches of Passport and Immigration Databases
- The Government has secretly allowed police forces to search over 150 million UK passport and immigration database photos with “Orwellian” facial recognition technology for 6 years.
- The number of searches of the passport database has “skyrocketed” from 2 in 2020 to 417 in 2023. 16 searches of the immigration database were made in 2023, increasing almost sevenfold to 102 in 2024.
- Campaigners to institute legal action, claiming it is an “historic breach of the right to privacy”.
- Former minister Sir David Davis MP says “It’s outrageous that parliamentarians and the public have been kept in the dark about this extraordinary surveillance system”.
Campaigners reveal “Skyrocketing” increase in police facial recognition searches of passport and immigration databases — Big Brother Watch
Defending Civil Liberties, Protecting PrivacyCampaigners reveal “Skyrocketing” increase in police facial recognition searches of passport and immigration databases — Big Brother Watch
Managing Proxmox VE via Terraform and GitOps
i am not a devops engineer. i appreciate any critique or correction.
Managing Proxmox VE via Terraform and GitOps
This program enables a declarative, IaC method of provisioning multiple resources in a Proxmox Virtual Environment.
Deployment
- Clone this GitLab/Hub repository.
- Go to the GitLab Project/Repository > Settings > CI/CD > Runner > Create project runner, mark Run untagged jobs and click Create runner.
- On Step 1, copy the runner authentication token, store it somewhere and click View runners.
- On the PVE Web UI, right-click on the target Proxmox node and click Shell.
- Execute this command in the PVE shell.
bash <(curl -s https://gitlab.com/joevizcara/terraform-proxmox/-/raw/master/prep.sh)[!CAUTION]
The content of this shell script can be examined before executing it. It can be executed on a virtualized Proxmox VE to observe what it does. It will create a privileged PAM user to authenticate via an API token. It creates a small LXC environment for GitLab Runner to manage the Proxmox resources. Because of the API limitations between the Terraform provider and PVE, it will necessitate to add the SSH public key from the LXC to the authorized keys of the PVE node to write the cloud-init configuration YAML files to the local Snippets datastore. It will also add a few more data types that can be accepeted in the local datastore (e.g. Snippets, Import). Consider enabling two-factor authentication on GitLab if this is to be applied on a real environment.
- Go to GitLab Project/Repository > Settings > CI/CD > Variables > Add variable:
Key: PM_API_TOKEN_SECRET \
Value: the token secret value from credentials.txt
- If this repository is cloned locally, adjust the values of the .tf files to conform with the PVE onto which this will be deployed.
[!NOTE]
The Terraform provider resgistry is bpg/proxmox for reference.
git pushsignals will trigger the GitLab Runner and will apply the infrastructure changes.
- If the first job stage succeeded, go to GitLab Project/Repository > Build > Jobs and click Run ▶️ button of the apply infra job.
- If the second job stage succeeded, go to the PVE WUI to start the new VMs to test or configure.
[!NOTE]
To configure the VMs, go to PVE WUI and right-click the gitlab-runner LXC and click Console.
The GitLab Runner LXC credentials are in the credentials.txt.
Inside the console, dossh k3s@<ip-address-of-the-VM>.
They can be converted into Templates, converted into an HA cluster, etc.
The IP addresses are declared in variables.tf.
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Not greenwashing, but still… A closer look at big tech’s 2025 sustainability reports
Not greenwashing, but still… A closer look at big tech’s 2025 sustainability reports
What big tech’s latest sustainability reports say (and don’t say) about the true environmental cost of AI.policyreview.info
What a nuclear reactor on the Moon really means for NASA's future
What a nuclear reactor on the Moon really means for NASA’s future
There are real concerns with long-term power generation on the Moon; nuclear could be the answer. But for NASA, will the cost be too high?Ethan Siegel (Big Think)
World War II began with a coordinated attack on Poland conducted by the Third Reich and the USSR, led by Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin respectively. As of 1 September 1939, the very first day of World War Two, both totalitarian regimes held joint military action against Poland. Starting from 1 September, German bombers were guided onto their targets in Poland from a radio station located in MinskIn accordance with the secret protocol as to Hitler-Stalin Pact, also known as the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, the new allies – Germany and the Soviet Union – were to jointly invade Poland. Red Army troops were to march into Poland three days following the Reich’s attack. Joseph Stalin, however, did not adhere to the protocol, with his troops advancing into Poland only 17 days after the Germans hit. The delay was caused by concerns over the propaganda discourse in the West, which Stalin wanted to focus on Germany solely.
The class struggle is a cornerstone of Karl Marx’s philosophy. It requires a restructuring of society in accordance with communism. When put in practice, this brought about genocide: the killing of 10 to 15 percent of a given society as well as annihilating its elites and those strata of society that were unwelcome in a communist state. For communists they stood in the way of communist rule and of harnessing entire societies under a totalitarian regime.
A post-war war. The years of 1944–1963 in Poland.
Poland was the first country in Europe to experience World War Two, which begun on 1 September 1939. Poland was also the first country to engage in armed combat with the joined forces of Nazi Germany and the USSR in their attempt the change the world…Warsaw Institute
The communists spent the decade prior trying to form an anti-Nazi coalition force, such as the Anglo-French-Soviet Alliance which was pitched by the communists and rejected by the British and French. The communists hated the Nazis from the beginning, as the Nazi party rose to prominence by killing communists and labor organizers, cemented bourgeois rule, and was violently racist and imperialist, while the communists opposed all of that.
When the many talks of alliances with the west all fell short, the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact, in order to delay the coming war that everyone knew was happening soon. Throughout the last decade, Britain, France, and other western countries had formed pacts with Nazi Germany, such as the Four-Power Pact, the German-French-Non-Agression Pact, and more. Molotov-Ribbentrop was unique among the non-agression pacts with Nazi Germany in that it was right on the eve of war, and was the first between the USSR and Nazi Germany. It was a last resort, when the west was content from the beginning with working alongside Hitler.
Harry Truman, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:
If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.
Not only that, but it was the Soviet Union that was responsible for 4/5ths of total Nazi deaths, and winning the war against the Nazis. The Soviet Union did not agree to invade Poland with the Nazis, it was about spheres of influence and red lines the Nazis should not cross in Poland. When the USSR went into Poland, it stayed mostly to areas Poland had invaded and annexed a few days prior. Should the Soviets have let Poland get entirely taken over by the Nazis, standing idle? The West made it clear that they were never going to help anyone against the Nazis until it was their turn to be targeted.
the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact
Putting aside all the usual arguments that get dismissed: What were the complex and mitigating factors that required supplying the Nazi war machine with more raw materials (oil, iron, grain, cotton, rubber, et al.) after the invasion of Poland? At the same time that the famously duplicitous Americans were enacting German tariffs and shifting economic support entirely to the Allies?
- The Soviets desparately needed finished goods that they either couldn't produce, or couldn't produce in necessary quantities, and the West would not trade them for them.
- The US's tariffs were notoriously symbolic. Ford, Coke, Dow Chemical, and many more continued business even into World War II. USian bombers were instructed to avoid USian factories in Nazi Germany.
10 US Companies That Worked with Nazi Germany
The United States is no stranger to controversial history. Throughout the decades, America has been a hotbed of clashing social rights issues, from abolition to women's rights.Carl Seaver (History Defined)
- Damn, if only there were suppliers of finished goods that also were strategically aligned on fighting the Nazis. But if you can't blame the USSR for a half measure non-aggression pact with the Nazis then you surely can't blame the Allies for withholding trade to a country not committed to the fight. After all, the Soviets got the supplies they wanted once they were actually in the war.
- Nazi economic policy prevented profits from leaving Germany, and the fascist regimes were not subtle in their nationalization threats. Not much of a surprise that private enterprise will toe the line when faced with takeover vs nominal ownership. In terms of actual trade (ie: not Coke factories staying open to make Fanta), US exports to Germany dropped 97% from 1938-1939.
I'm by no means arguing for the Democratic™️ ideological purity of the Allies, but it's pretty clear what the universal political thinking was in the lead up to WWII. Everyone (from Hindenburg up to the USSR) thought they could keep the Nazis at arms length and aimed at their rivals. A few fascist atrocities can be overlooked so long as they happen to the right people.
- The USSR spent a decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, the west wanted the Nazis and communists to kill each other. The west had multiple non-agression pacts with Nazi Germany, and turned down many offers of alliances with the Soviets against the Nazis.
- US exports fell, they were of course at war, but the US continued business and was doing a ton of business in the lead-up to the war. Further, post-war, the US protected Nazis and even put them in charge of NATO to make use of their anti-communism, like Adolf Heusinger.
It's pretty clear that the decade leading up to World War II, the Soviets begged and pleaded for an anti-Nazi alliance, but people like Churchill, Ford, etc. loved the Nazis so much that this was impossible until the Nazis did what the Soviets said they would.
- Yes, the West wanted the Nazis and communists to fight and the Soviets wanted the Nazis to fight the West. Both sides acted accordingly. Why is this hard to admit?
- So? The other countries on the belligerent list are receiving more support by several orders of magnitude. Not to mention trade to the Allies and other European countries continuing to go up as the war went on, clearly the war wasn't the deciding factor.
The numbers OBJECTIVELY show a decrease in German trade to a pitiful amount. In the lead up to the US's entry, quite literally the lowest of any European country (let alone adjusted per-capita). German U-boats were sinking US trade vessels up until the end, strange way to treat your trade parter?
The numbers OBJECTIVELY show USSR-German trade in war materials increasing as the war starts, with no significant support to the Allies right up until they're invaded. There's not any arguing this.
Pointing to post-WWII is entirely irrelevant to this discussion. Either country could (and often does) gesture broadly at the Cold War to justify their actions.
Why is it so hard to admit that Saint Stalin and the USSR engaged in hard geopolitics? Somehow you're trying to push the narrative of the Soviets being weak victims that begged and pleaded and were forced to concede to German demands. But you'll also claim they're the sole reason that the Allies won WWII. Which is it?
There's a counterfactual history where the Soviets remain neutral and the Allies will still almost certainly win (though at a greater cost). The Axis simply didn't have the manpower or resource access to keep up, hence their need to engage the USSR for oil. They certainly sped the war to it's end, but that doesn't change the fact that they could have made many different decisions if snuffing out fascism was their top priority.
- The Soviets wanted to fight the Nazis with the west the entire time, hence the numerous proposals for allied anti-fascist coalitions. The Soviets weren't on good terms with the West, but saw the Nazis as the far greater threat and acted rationally.
- As comrade @AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml pointed out (that you cannot see) in this post, the US distorted economic reports and cloaked their continued ties to Nazi Germany throughout the war.
The Soviets were able to beat the Nazis, but at massive personal cost in human lives. They barely eaked out a win, because while they were massively industrializing, they were a poor, developing country against a country with a century-long industrial headstart. They needed to buy as much time as possible, as they were catching up, but the distance was still large. Those are the basic facts.
Ah the classic .ml responses: the USSR really wanted to do something but was forced to do the opposite because of those nasty capitalist states and also we'll just reject all sources we don't agree with. It's as iconic as the inverse US claims but you never fail to see the irony.
If you don't want to believe US reports, just look at Germans attacking US ships well before their entry into the war. It's not some secret conspiracy that the Allies were benefitting more from the US's position than the Axis by orders of magnitude.
They saw the Nazis as such a great threat that they needed to give them the materials to fuel Panzers and make the ammunition that killed Allied soldiers? What? If they truly wanted the Nazis gone first and foremost they would not have done that. It doesn't hold up to any logic.
The US did more trade with the allies, never said they didn't, but that they continued to profit off the Nazis throughout the war.
Secondly, the Soviet Union was severely underdeveloped. It was rapidly industrializing, but needed finished goods that they couldn't produce and the Allies would not trade them for. The goods they got from the Nazis as a trade contributed towards the defeat of the Nazis.
they continued to profit off the Nazis throughout the war
As did the Soviets, what are we even talking about here?? You just respond to each criticism with "they needed to do it and what about the US", ignoring the multitude of other actions they could have taken if their priorities matched your claims.
Allies would not trade them
Which they did once they had Soviet support. They almost certainly would have received the same support if they joined them in 1939.
It was official USSR foreign policy that the communist revolution should spread to workers of the world in all countries. Regardless of the detriments or merits of that, you can't ignore it when examining their foreign relations. Of course they got a different treatment...
The goods they got from the Nazis as a trade contributed towards the defeat of the Nazis.
They absolutely did not! One of the main factors that broke down the USSR-German relationship was a refusal to reciprocate military technology and materials.
The Soviets didn't have a profit-driven economy, what are you talking about? The Nazis killed 20 million Soviets and committed genocide against them. What "multitudes of actions?" The Soviets directly tried to establish an anti-Nazi coalition while the West traded heavily with the Nazis.
The goods the Soviets got from the Nazis included machinery, optical tools, etc, finished goods that the Soviets needed desparately to continue industrializing, and could not get the Allies to trade them for them. The communist-Nazi "relationship" never was on positive terms, they absolutely hated each other and were preparing for war with the other.
The Soviets didn't have a profit-driven economy, what are you talking about?
Profit: to derive benefit, to be of service or advantage, a valuable return. Are you ESL or do you just have a conditioned response from all the propoganda you gobble up?
Brother in Christ if you can't even admit giving Nazis oil, iron, rare earth minerals and other war necessities is bad then there's no discussion to be had here. And you keep pointing it back to the West as if I care or that's even relevant to the USSR's actions. Dozens of countries can equivocate and justify their ethically grey actions surrounding WWII, why do the Soviets deserve special treatment in your mind?
The world is a massive place, diplomacy has a million facets, there are always options and trade offs. If you can't find a single flaw in the USSR's actions then I pity you. You've lost sight of your purported support of class struggle and solidary in favor of waving around Cold War flags.
This is extremely silly. Profit in economics terms, as in production for profit. The USSR did not profit either in the economic term for it, nor in your generalized terms. Throwing ESL speakers under the bus and insulting me over a semantical argument when it was clear that I am saying the Soviet Union was socialist and thus its trades were not for profits is silly.
Secondly, it would have been great if the USSR could have traded with the west for what it needed, but the west denied them. The Soviet Union got what it needed, which contributed towards their victory over the Nazis.
Profit in English has a usage with the definition I gave. You said yourself they were doing it to their own advantage. They benefited from it, there was some profit to them in the arrangement (unless they like helping Nazi's out of the kindness of their heart). It's not throwing anyone under the bus to say I can't have a conversation if you lack a grasp on the meaning of words in their context.
Would have been great if they traded with them, but it would have also been beneficial to not sign the non-aggression pact and trade agreements, painting yourself as not aligning with their interests while also preaching a revolutionary gospel. You're stacking the deck against yourself. But again, we're talking in circles and you refuse to concede literally any ounce of fault or poor political maneuvering, not much to be said.
When I said the USSR was not a "profit-driven economy," I meant it was socialist. When I said the US was profiting, I meant directly, through the standard English usage of profit as business related profits. Your only counter is to assert that I'm either uneducated or speaking English as a second language, but neither of those if true should bar me from conversation anyways. It's quite literally ad hominem.
The Soviet Union signed the non-agression pact to buy time for them to further close the gap and increase the chances of beating the Nazis. Time was on the soviet side. Nazi Germany was increasingly in need of new colonies, the soviets needed more industrialization. I concede mistakes made by the Soviet Union, the fact that I don't concede the non-aggression pact as one doesn't mean I don't accept any. I don't think you have any evidence to support your claims, here.
What should the Soviets have done instead?
Not an ad-hominem when it's directly pertinent to the debate and an example of your implicit bias. If you take not understanding a word or filtering it through your own bias that be stupidity then that's on you.
What should the Soviets have done instead?
Again, the conversation won't go anywhere because no matter what I say, you'll say it couldn't be done.
That there was literally no possibility of making concessions to the Allies or leveraging their resources in a more indirect way. No way to manage your political footing that didn't require reliance on Nazis or giving them an open flank in Eastern Europe. No German aggression that could be deflected and spun to international support. They definitely needed to make a photo-op of signing documents next to Nazis and of Soviet troops shaking hands with Germans. They needed to immediately start the annexation and sovietization of territories fresh off their liberation from inevitable German capture. No other way, definitely needed to happen like that.
Talking to you is a clinic in historical determinism.
No, you directly suggested a false binary, that if I disagreed with you, I was either speaking ESL or was uneducated, when the truth is that I'm a native english speaker and have done a great deal of studying on the history of socialism and socialist theory. I understand what profit means, you stated that the USSR was profiting off of the Nazis during the war as equivalent to me stating that the US profited off of the Nazis during wartime. My use of the word profit was direct, and oriented towards the capitalist nature of the US's involvement in the Nazi economy, I did not mean a general, vague notion of "benefit."
As for what the Soviets did, they did try, for an entire decade, to get the west to agree to an anti-Nazi pact. They offered hundreds of thousands of troops, and materiel like bombers, tanks, etc. They were rejected. The west wanted the soviets and Nazis to wipe each other out entirely, only engaging when they saw the real threat of the Nazis. The Nazis genuinely believed Britain would join them, and they were close to correct, Churchill was a genocidal monster and a vehemont racist.
I have not researched the Fascists’ aggression on U.S. merchant vessels prior to December 1941, but the Fascists did, for byspel, intercept neutral vessels such as the Kingdom of Sweden’s Gurtrud Bratt on Sept. 24, 1939 because they were heading for Allied régimes like the United Kingdom, and we know for a fact that Swedish capitalists were generally on good terms with the Fascists anyway.
Apart from .world blocking Lemmygrad content, the other reason that I am not bothering to engage directly with this anticommunist is that I know that they’ll defend Finland the nanosecond that anybody brings it up, proving that all their hype over the Molotov Cocktease Pact is based on false pretenses. (Sometimes, merely mentioning the word ‘Finland’ is enough to make generic anticommunists immediately drop their make-believe antifascism.) Try telling anticommunists that the Fascists knew from experience that Soviet demands were ‘much harder to meet than Finnish demands’, and watch how little they’ll care.
Corporate America could have been an Axis power with the sheer amount of stuff that it was marketing to the Third Reich throughout its existence. Personally, I think that that was far more consequential than the German–Soviet transactions of 1939–1941, and that anticommunists can blow that off as ‘no biggie’ is another reason that I cannot take their obsession over the German–Soviet Pact seriously.
Not just after the invasion of Poland, right up until the invasion of the Soviet Union.
On the Russian side, General Thomas, Chief of the German War Industry Department, recorded that “the Russians carried out their deliveries as planned, right up to the start of the attack. Even during the last few days, transports of India rubber from the Far East were completed by express transit trains.”^30^
This was not because the Russians did not expect to be attacked. As early as September 18, 1940, the Germans learned about anti-German propaganda in the Red Army, and interpreted it as a response to fear of attack by Germany.^31^ The Kremlin fulfilled its economic commitments to the end because it was determined to give Hitler no cause to attack. Until late in the day, also, the industrial and war materials received from Germany were a very important supplement to Russia’s armament efforts. The raw materials which Germany received were mostly perishable, while the arms and machines received by Russia remained when war came.
The Cold War & Its Origins, 1917-1960, Vol. I, Denna F. Flemming, 1961, Chapter 6.
Even if September 1939 should be set as the starting point for WWII (which it should not be), the Slovak Republic played a significant rôle in invading Poland with the Third Reich, and its contribution therewith was much more of a joint effort than the Red Army’s intervention in western Ukraine. It is strange that the anticommunist’s source said nothing at all about the Slovak Republic, almost as if its omission were a political decision and the Warsaw Institute has no interest in honest education. Hmmm…
Oh, and if massacring élites were the only way to negate capitalism, it seems that the DPRK missed the memo when it disprivileged landlords.
When the many talks of alliances with the west all fell short, the Soviets reluctantly agreed to sign a non-agression pact, in order to delay the coming war that everyone knew was happening soon.
Same people excusing Soviet pact with Nazis bemoan Finland for doing the same. Where is the consistency. Not saying you are doing that but it's always interested me.
The Soviet Union did not agree to invade Poland with the Nazis
The article is hilarious desperate in doing handwringing and trying to sidestep the whole thing. "Well akshually it didn't invade Poland because the government had ceased to exist!" But it also claims Soviet Union couldn't have invaded Poland because Poland didn't declare war on Soviet Union. Lmao
Secret Protocol, Article I & II
Article IIn the event of a territorial and political rearrangement in the areas belonging to the Baltic States (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), the northern boundary of Lithuania shall represent the boundary of the spheres of influence of Germany and U.S.S.R. In this connection the interest of Lithuania in the Vilnius area is recognized by each party.
Article II
editIn the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state, the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. shall be bounded approximately by the line of the rivers Narew, Vistula and San.
The question of whether the interests of both parties make desirable the maintenance of an independent Polish state and how such a state should be bounded can only be definitely determined in the course of further political developments.
In any event both governments will resolve this question by means of a friendly agreement.
This was them dividing the country between them for when the war was concluded. Unless we pretend we don't know what this means
In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state,
It was an agreement for the Nazis to not press beyond certain boundaries
And for Soviet Union to not press beyond a certain boundary. That's how those divisions generally work.
From the beginning, the German government repeatedly asked Molotov whether the Soviet Union would keep to its side of the partition bargain.[95][96] The Soviet forces were holding fast along their designated invasion points pending finalization of the five-month-long undeclared war with Japan in the Far East, successful end of the conflict for the Soviet Union, which occurred in the Battles of Khalkhin Gol. On 15 September 1939, Molotov and Shigenori Tōgō completed their agreement that ended the conflict, and the Nomonhan ceasefire went into effect on 16 September 1939. Now cleared of any "second front" threat from the Japanese, Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin ordered his forces into Poland on 17 September.
Aside from optics, that
Soviet Union and Nazis never agreed to “divide the area.”
Secret protocol, article 2
In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. shall be bounded approximately by the line of the rivers Narew, Vistula, and San. '
Also
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E…
These aren't implications, these are very clear cut. The "in the event of a territorial and political rearrangement" is the implied invasion. The dividing the area is just in plain language.
the Soviet Union and Nazis never agreed to “divide the area.”
It's in reply to that.
They agreed to spheres of influence
Yes that's what the secret protocol was about
You're implying
- That the Soviets intended on invading Europe, and having the pact last
- That the Soviets wanted to invade.
Neither is backed up by the facts at hand.
They didn't, though. They went to war to stop the Nazis, the only time it came into use was when the Nazis invaded Poland and the soviets prevented them from taking all of Poland.
Also, there's no need to reply on both threads.
The dividing into speheres of influence and subsequent actions in those spheres all happened. Not just Poland but elsewhere. You're more arguing about justification, which is different matter.
Also, there’s no need to reply on both threads.
Reply to just one of these next and we'll continue on that thread. Up to you which
The German invasion began on 1 September 1939, one week after the signing of the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between Germany and the Soviet Union, and one day after the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union had approved the pact.
I wonder what you think the pact is talking about if not the invasion that happened right after.
Ok, so you started by saying the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was where they planned to invade Poland together. Now you're saying it doesn't, it just references some alleged plan from elsewhere that you have not provided. Again, begging the question: your assertion that the pact constitutes a plan to co-invade Poland requires you to assume they already had to plan to invade Poland that the pact is secretly referencing.
Putting aside that even after the Soviet archives opened, nobody has been able to find a single record of actual strategic coordination between the two armies in this alleged "coordinated invasion"
It’s true that the invasion wasn’t coordinated
Great, argument over, glad you admit you were wrong
The Soviets absolutely did agree to invade, and claiming otherwise is historical revisionism. The source you linked tactically omits several facts that completely undermine the narrative presented, such as the fact that the Red Army coordinated with the Luftwaffe from Minsk during the Nazi invasion, that the agreed borders of the "spheres of influence" split a sovereign nation down the middle (which is impossible if Poland had remained sovereign), the joint military victory parade in Brest, etcetera.
Should the Soviets have let Poland get entirely taken over by the Nazis, standing idle?
If there was a genuine concern the Soviets could have guaranteed Polish independence against the Nazis. They did not, instead they jointly agreed to invade and divide the country.
The West made it clear that they were never going to help anyone against the Nazis until it was their turn to be targeted.
The UK and France declared war 2 days after Hitler invaded Poland (Hitler did not expect the UK to guarantee Poland, causing him to delay the invasion by a week while he deliberated on whether to go forward). Military spending in both the UK and France was significantly ramped up after Hitler first started showing aggression, but neither believed themselves to be ready for a war. War requires preparation, and they weren't so delusional to believe they'd be able to avoid war forever. What neither the UK nor France expected however was that Nazi Germany's war machine would ramp up significantly faster than their own.
What's historical revisionism is claiming the parade to celebrate the Nazis being pushed out of areas of Poland by the Soviets was a celebration of allyship, or claiming the "spheres of influence" were a real plan for dividing Europe and not a way for the Soviets to dissuade the Nazis from pressing too far while ramping up for war. Both the Soviets and the Nazis knew war was coming between them, the treaty was always on borrowed time and in no-way signaled long-term planning on either side, the Soviets wanted to stop the Nazi threat and the Nazis intended on wiping out the Soviets, "spheres of influence" be damned.
The Eastern Pact was the hopeful alliance between Poland and the Soviets (among others like Lithuania) against the Nazis, but this fell through due to France and Britain working against it, and Polish hatred of Russians. From the French ambassador to Poland at the time:
If, in reality, the most serious danger for Poland is Germany, "the Russian", whatever the regime to which he is subject, always appears to the Poles as "enemy n° 1": if the German remains an adversary, he is no less a European and a man of order; the Russian is, for the Pole, a barbarian, an Asian, a dissolving and corrupting element, with whom any contact would be perilous, any compromise fatal.— Léon Noël, [17], 1938-06-31, Warsaw, p. 975-976
The UK and France regularly sabotaged talks of alliances with the Soviets and made their non-aggression pacts far earlier, doing far more trade and having far more Nazi synpathy among their publics and ruling class. Churchill is a famous fan of the Nazis until his hand was forced.
What's historical revisionism is claiming the parade to celebrate the Nazis being pushed out of areas of Poland by the Soviets was a celebration of allyship
The Nazis took Brest initially, despite it being past the demarcation line. When the Soviets arrived, the Nazis voluntarily withdrew and both armies saluted one another. They then held a joint victory parade before the Nazis returned westwards, back behind the demarcation line.
The Nazis definitely weren't "pushed out", that's BS. As much as you say that the west had Nazi sympathies, they never actively invaded a third nation together, collaborating militarily, and divided the spoils. But you conveniently forgot to address the military cooperation between the Nazis and the Soviets during their joint invasion of Poland, because it directly undermines your false narrative.
You're also conveniently ignoring that the Soviets "accidentally" let slip what their secret protocols with Germany entailed to the Lithuanians, in order to pressure them into joining with the Soviets after the invasion of Poland. The Polish distaste for Russia also may have had something to do with the decades of Russian imperialism the Polish suffered from.
Undermining alliance talks is something all the great powers did. The Polish Intermarium was sabotated by the Soviets for example. That's not unique to the Allies in the slightest.
The Nazis took Brest, and when the Soviets arrived, the Nazis pulled back rather than directly antagonizing the Soviets and risking war before Barbarossa. This isn't complicated, had the Soviets not arrived, the Nazis would have stayed or pushed onward. As for the Nazi request for support, the Soviets only partially complied, trying to tread the line between collapsing the non-agression pact and giving as little support as possible. I didn't bother responding to this point because you were already lying elsewhere.
The Soviets informing Lithuania of the details of the non-aggression pact was a good thing. What's your point, exactly? That the nation that spent a decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, was ideologically opposed to Nazism, when the Nazis were murdering communists, were secretly friends the whole time and that the war was an unexpected betrayal? This kind of nonsense anti-communism is historical revisionism and erasure of context.
It remains true that the country that did the most to try to stop the Nazi threat before World War II, and contributed the most to stopping the Nazis during it, was the Soviet Union, and it isn't close.
The Soviets arrived in Brest because that's what they had agreed upon with the Nazis. The Nazis just stuck to their end of the deal. Your attempt to frame this as the Soviets "liberating" Brest from the Nazis is laughably inaccurate. There was no antagonism when the Soviets arrived.
The Nazis would have had to stay in Brest if the Soviets didn't show up, because both parties also agreed to suppress any Polish resistance against either side. The Nazis suddenly leaving would have given an opening to Polish resistance.
The Soviets basically told Lithuania "we decided to divvy up eastern Europe with the Nazis. You are on our side of the demarcation line, and we already invaded Poland. Know what happens when you resist". It was a direct threat, not a promise of an alliance.
The UK and France guaranteed Polish independence and declared war on Germany when Hitler invaded. The Soviets could have done the same, but didn't. Instead, they joined forces with the Nazis. They were just as ineffective at stopping the Nazis as the Allies were, when he wasn't directly helping them out. Once war was declared that picture shifts, and the Soviets delivered an immense effort to stop the Nazis, most notably their sacrifice in human lives (something that must be respected and remembered). But before the war that was very different, despite attempts to minimize the Soviet collaboration by revisionists.
There was no antagonism from the Nazis because they had agreed to not press farther, or risk breaking the non-aggression pact. Without the non-aggression pact, Poland would have been totally colonized by the Nazis and subject to the Holocaust. It effectively stalled the Nazi advance without the Soviets needing to go to war quite yet.
The Soviets informed Lithuania to warn them of Nazi aggression, not to threaten them. Britain and France declared war but didn't do jack shit, to the point that this era was remembered as the "Phoney War." What happened next, was Britain extending diplomacy with the USSR and trying to finally form a cohesive alliance.
Again, because you're relentlessly dodging this, what’s your point, exactly? That the nation that spent a decade trying to form an anti-Nazi alliance, was ideologically opposed to Nazism, when the Nazis were murdering communists, were secretly friends the whole time and that the war was an unexpected betrayal? This kind of nonsense anti-communism is historical revisionism and erasure of context.
My point is that your link claiming the Soviets didn't agree to invade Poland with the Nazis is historical revisionism, blatantly ignores facts and context and just does not hold up under mild scrutiny. It's literally what I stated in my first comment.
When the Soviets did not manage to get an alliance with the west (the west still deemed the communists a huge threat as well), they did genuinely attempt to ally with the Nazis. And that's what initially happened. Stalin didn't believe the alliance would last of course, but ultimately he too was surprised by how early Hitler invaded. Molotov even called fascism "a matter of taste", to demonstrate the collaboration between the two nations at that point.
The "Phoney war" has always been a bit of a misnomer. Poland fell before the British expeditionary force could even be deployed. Later revealed French intelligence showed that France severly overestimated the German strength on the French border. They didn't press hard yet because they believed they wouldn't be able to.
But they UK and France didn't declare war for performative reasons. They stepped in, even if not immediately effectively, whereas the Soviets initially collaborated with the Nazis and waited to be attacked instead. They too could have unilaterally guaranteed Poland, yet chose not too. They spied an opportunity for themselves to regain lands lost to Poland in an earlier war instead and took it.
The Soviets, plainly and simply, did not agree to invade Poland. That was not a part of the non-aggression pact, nor what "spheres of influence" entailed. Those were lines the other party was not meant to cross if the likely war broke out, and secondly neither party expected the other to uphold them long-term. The Soviets never intended on allying with the Nazis, non-aggression is not an alliance. You are doing historical revisionism, as much as you deride me for it.
As for the British and French, again, they did absolutely nothing of value and watched it all happen. Should the soviets have let Poland fall entirely to the Nazis? Should the soviets have launched a war they weren't ready for? Seems to me you wished the soviets were stronger than they were at the time and could have taken on a far more industrialized power with a fair degree of confidence, or otherwise let Poland fall to the Nazis and be subject to Nazi slaughter and the Holocaust.
Explain to me why the Soviets agreed on a sphere of influence that went straight down the middle of a sovereign country. Explain to me why the Soviets coordinated militarily with the Luftwaffe during the invasion, even before the Soviets entered the war. You keep incessantly dodging these questions because the facts do not fit your false narrative.
The UK and France weren't ready for war either. As already mentioned (which you also keep ignoring) the BEF wasn't deployable before Poland fell, and France believed they weren't able to attack and defeat Germany yet. Despite that, they declared war.
The Soviets could have unilaterally guaranteed the Poles. Such a guarantee, on top of the Allied one, could have deterred Hitler for longer. The Soviet army could at least have given the Poles a fighting chance. The Germans would have been less effective without the military assistance from the Soviets. Instead, they did prepare the Red Army for war; one against Poland.
The Germans weren't ready for a two-front war yet. With no eastern front left, they were able to break through France and capitulate them. With the knowledge that the Germans would be fighting in Russia, France may have successfully invaded the Nazis.
I didn't dodge either of those points. They agreed to spheres of influence that contained areas of Ukraine and Lithuania, inhabited by ethnic Ukrainians and Lithuanians, and they didn't give support, they only partially complied in a way that didn't really help.
I'm aware that France didn't do anything, the BEF wasn't deployable in time and they actively sabotaged talked of alliances leading up tk that moment.
The Soviets could not risk their lives protecting a country that hated them and starting a war they would have likely lost. The west had proven incapable of allying with the Soviets as a preventative measure. Germany would not have been less effective, if you actually checked the article I linked the impact of the Soviet's partial compliance was marginal at best.
This is all alt-history fanfic on your part. It remains true that the country that did the most to try to stop the Nazi threat before World War II, and contributed the most to stopping the Nazis during it, was the Soviet Union, and it isn’t close.
You did not address the fact that the Soviets directly collaborated with the Luftwaffe from Minsk. You did not address the fact that the Soviets had already geared up for an invasion on the Polish border.
Don't claim you did when anyone can read you didn't.
You misrepresent the facts surrounding Brest. The article you referred to does these things to: omit the facts that don't match your narrative. You ignore historical context and have now resorted to putting up a strawman regarding which country did most to stop the Nazis, which was never the point I challenged you on (the historical fact that the Soviets did indeed agree to divide Poland with the Nazis and collaborated on the invasion).
There's no point in continuing this conversation if you keep failing to address these key points that directly undermine your narrative.
I did address those. Plus, based on the voting ratios, it seems that "anyone that can read" is siding more with me than you. Normally I think referencing vote ratios is a stupid frame of argument, but if you're going to make the appeal first I may as well point out that it's in my favor, not yours.
I'm not ignoring historical context, you're trying to invent a narrative where the Soviets, for a very short period, were actually super pro-Nazi and totally fine with them, surrounded on both sides by decades of hostile opposition and offers to send a million troops on the conditions of forming an anti-Nazi alliance. The country that hated the Nazis from the beginning, and killed 85% of the total Nazi deaths in World War II, somehow forgot its history and decided to collaborate with the Nazis willingly.
I guess I'll show you a mirror: there’s no point in continuing this conversation if you keep failing to address these key points that directly undermine your narrative.
I did address those.
Please cite this directly because I'm not reading it in your replies.
you're trying to invent a narrative where the Soviets, for a very short period, were actually super pro-Nazi and totally fine with them
Here's the thing: this is exactly what the communist parties outside Russia also struggled with. Stalin made a deal with Hitler. Molotov literally said "Fascism? Fascism is purely a matter of taste".
For the first two weeks of the war, the communist parties felt conflicted but ultimately didn't need to change their stance. They were anti-fascist after all, and the UK and France had now declared war on the Nazis so this received the CPs support. Maurice Thorez even joined the French army (for a couple weeks until he left to go to Moscow).
But then, Stalin invaded Poland, and they met the Nazis as allies in the middle. Stalin publicly came out in support of Hitler's "peace programme". This caused some serious conflicts in the CPs in the west. Suddenly the logic shifted:
- the UK and France had colonial empires, Germany did not
- the UK and France declared war on Germany, not the other way around
- the Germans had signed a pact of friendship with the USSR
So surely, it was better to focus on being anti-imperialist, focused against the UK and France instead of focusing on Germany.
You'll find many socialist and communist newspapers started putting out pro-German propaganda (and some were banned for it). This only changed after 41, when the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union.
The Soviets were never "totally fine" with the Nazis. But for a time they were happy to see the Nazis turned towards the west, and they saw the opportunity to get some benefits for themselves too.
Despite the [German–Soviet] pact, Communist resistance started very quickly in the Pas‐de‐Calais. The particular circumstances of the Forbidden Zone allowed for an independence of action that Auguste Lecœur and Julien Hapiot were able to take maximum advantage of. They decided, in August 1940, to begin organising illegal Communist activity against the occupying forces.⁷[…]
Thus, the Communists of the Pas‐de‐Calais began their anti‐[Reich] propaganda very early on. Nevertheless, the Communists of the region did not think of themselves as disloyal to their party and their confidence in the Soviet Union was as strong as ever, it was simply that the daily reality of the Forbidden Zone pushed then more rapidly to a more anti‐[Reich] position than their comrades elsewhere.
(Emphasis added. Source.)
the daily reality of the Forbidden Zone pushed then more rapidly to a more anti‐[Reich] position than their comrades elsewhere.
Yeah this was my point. It took a bit for various communist groups to pivot back to being primarily anti-reich. Those who suffered directly under the Nazis turned faster, e.g. those in northern France took the anti-reich position before the British communists did (they remained more anti-imperialist aimed at the UK, until the Soviets were invaded).
Far from possessing a single will, the reaction of Communists to the [German]–Soviet Pact and Chamberlain’s declaration of war was confused and heterogeneous, for the war shattered the Party’s whole conception of international politics.
(Source.)
Campaigns to demand shelter facilities, directed by the Communist Party, were also mounted. The government feared that Communist agitation about poor shelter provision in the working-class areas of London might provide fertile ground for political subversion. One incident of this campaign for improved shelter facilities was a demonstration at the Savoy in London's West End. This became the subject of Cabinet investigations. The minutes of the Cabinet meeting record the recommendation that:
…strong action should, if necessary, be taken to prevent demonstrations by bodies of people purporting to seek better shelter accommodation…'
(Source.)
In January 1941, the central committee of the Communist Party of Belgium (Parti Communiste de Belgique, PCB) had started producing Le Drapeau Rouge (Red Flag) clandestinely. While formally supporting the [German–Soviet] pact and placing the blame for the war equally on Berlin and London, in its second edition proclaimed itself to be "against national-socialism, the agent of big business. The struggle for socialism continues."The resolution of the central committee "accepts the patriotic character of the resistance developed by certain sections of the Anglophile bourgeoisie and recognises the necessity to create a parallel movement to avoid the working class being dragged along behind".¹⁵ Although it is equally fair to say that the anti[fascist] sentiments that were widespread in the Belgian working class pushed the PCB into opposing the occupation more forcefully than the logic of their support for the [German–Soviet] pact would imply.
(Source.)
Albert Ouzoulias, commander of the Bataillons de la Jeunesse (Youth Battalions), armed wing of the Jeunesse Communiste said:
"For us, even a Nazi was a human being. The discussions had centred on this question. The comrades refused to execute a German soldier who could have been a Communist comrade from Hamburg or a worker from Berlin. Even an officer could have been an anti-Nazi teacher. At least, everyone felt that killing a Gestapo officer was justified. But our comrades did not understand that the best way to defend our country during a war was to kill the maximum number of German officers. This would hasten the end of the war and the end of the misfortune that has affected many of the peoples of the world, including the German people. Internationalism at this time was to kill the largest possible number of Nazis".⁵⁵In fact, the majority of Communists were happy to be rid of the [German–Soviet] pact and were quickly comfortable with the combativity of the new line.
(Source.)
Blitz and the bomber offensive: a case study in British home propaganda, 1939-45
The thesis is a case study of British home front propaganda in the period 1939-4 5, with particular reference to film propaganda; newsreels, official films, and feature films. It examines propaganda about German bombing raids against Britain duringStephanie Fisher (www.academia.edu)
I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to say here. You seem to be supporting my point that in 39, the communists were primarily anti-imperialist, which by 41 had pivoted back to being primarily anti-reich. They obviously didn't like the reich in that time, that would be ridiculous. But they did in some ways echo some of the pro-German propaganda (eg blaming London for the war).
Your first source also confirms what I'm saying about the confusion caused by the war and the Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement. The assumption was that the imperialist west would ally with the Nazis and that the Soviets would be fighting the fascists. Yet in a span of 2-3 weeks, the reality was that the Nazis had allied with the Soviets and that the imperialists were fighting the fascists instead. Hence the mentioned confusion and the lack of heterogeneity in the response; various reasons were invented to support the Soviets in this new arrangement (quite interestingly a fair few of those I've seen mentioned here actually, e.g. the "protecting the Poles" line, but at the time it was also argued by some that the USSR had a right to take back those lands from Poland. Though none of them seemed to deny an invasion had taken place altogether like some here are suggesting).
I'm not really sure what the snark is for, I'm asking you a genuine question because you seem to be genuinely engaging and doing actual research.
You listed a number of sources but I didn't quite get what exactly you were replying, so that's why I asked for a clarification. It's a genuine attempt at conversation 🙁
To be honest, when I first saw the claim about the Minsk radio station I immediately wondered if it was real, but The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, pg. 621 does briefly discuss it and the author cited the ‘German Foreign Office papers, […] p. 480’. Strangely, though, not that many sources discuss it, and the few that I did find had surprisingly little to say about it; finding in depth English information on this radio station is frustratingly uneasy. A couple sources (The Fate of Poles in the USSR and The Polish Review) specifically claim that this station helped the Luftwaffe bomb towns, villages, and cities: a serious accusation that has attracted suspiciously little attention and reeks of Cold War sensationalism. Now I’m starting to wonder: did the Soviets even make good on their presumable promise to help the Luftwaffe?
Here is what pg. 480 of the German Foreign Office papers says:
“The Chief of the General Staff of the Luftwaffe² would be very much obliged to the People’s Commissariat for Telecommunications if—for urgent navigational tests—the Minsk Broadcasting Station could, until further notice and commencing immediately, send out a continuous dash with intermittent call-sign ‘Richard Wilhelm 1.0.’ in the intervals between its programmes, and introduce the name ‘Minsk’ as often as possible in the course of its programme.”
I don’t know if it’s because of my limited expertise in this particular subject or if there is some context that I am overlooking, but judging from this report alone, it really doesn’t sound that scandalous. It sounds downright boring, actually. What do you think: is sending out a continuous dash and repeatedly introducing a name in navigational tests a cause for concern…? Can you feel yourself sweating at all…? Do you think that you’ll lose any sleep tonight…? Even just a little bit…? Be honest.
A funny thing, though:
“One evening a soldier came to the place where I lived and told us he’d heard on the radio that everybody who didn’t want to be under German occupation was welcome in the USSR: the borders were open for everybody.”²¹ As she has heard about the Nazi treatment of Jews in Germany, she says to herself: “Maybe there is a way. Maybe the USSR will save my life.” So together with some friends and her brother, she decides, as she puts it, to take up the “Russian offer.”²² They leave Warsaw on foot on 28 September. She writes: “The next day we were refugees in the care of the Russian Army in Bialystok. […] We were well treated and got some food and shelter.”²³
(Source.)
Shelter from the Holocaust
The first book-length study of the survival of Polish Jews in Stalin’s Soviet Union. About 1.5 million East European Jews—mostly from Poland, the Ukraine, and Russia—survived the Second World War behind the lines in the unoccupied parts of the Soviet…Google Books
Nice dig! I found a Russian source which says the same: hrono.ru/sobyt/1900war/1939pol…
So to clarify here, this is indeed used for navigation. At the time no GPS existed of course, so pilots had to rely on either radio signals or visual clues on the ground to tell them where they are. The radio signals, if the pilot could tell where they were coming from, would indeed help triangulate their location. Quite necessary, particularly in eastern Poland where German radio signals had a harder time reaching.
If the radio tower continually transmitted the requested callsign in between the other stuff, it would be easy to tell where the radio tower was. The Germans at this point expected the Soviets to help invade already as they had agreed upon. By mentioning "Minsk" a lot in the transmissions they effectively did the same thing, but a bit less overt. This allowed the Soviets to retain some element of surprise against the Poles.
On the 10th of September, the Nazis urged Molotov to begin the Soviet side of the invasion to uphold their end of the agreement, but Molotov held off due to the war with Japan. This gave them a convenient reason to wait until Polish resistance had been broken before going in. One week later, war was declared and the Soviets invaded.
World War II began with a coordinated attack on Poland conducted by the Third Reich and the USSR
Oh? What date did this "coordinated attack" take place, and how was the coordination handled? Presuming coordinating the movements of two different armies for such a large scale operation would have required a lot of back and forth signaling and planning, all of which would have become public record when the soviet archives were opened.
You sure you read the correct document?
The one I linked clearly cites soviet sources describing the USSR third reich collaborarion untill Barbarossa.
annas-archive.org/scidb/10.230…
I cannot find much about Soviet-German relations in it either.
Molotov, the Making of the Grand Alliance and the Second Front 1939-1942 - Anna’s Archive
Derek Watson Taylor and Francis Group; Informa UK (Taylor & Francis); Carfax Publishing Ltd.; Informa UK Limited (ISSN 0966-8136) Europe Asia Studies, #1, 54, pages 51-85, 2002 aprannas-archive.org
Uhhh Russia invaded unoccupied Poland at the same time as Nazi Germany.
While it's inaccurate to characterize them as "victims of communism" it's full blown anti-intellectualism, and astonishingly disrespectful to the polish people, to deny their suffering under Soviet occupation.
The Soviet Union largely stuck to areas Poland had invaded and annexed a few decades earlier, and did so largely to prevent the Nazis from taking all of Poland. Genuinely, what should the Soviet Union have done instead? Let the Nazis take all of Poland?
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
like this
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Soviets took over 52% of Poland. Your argument is extremely fucking invalid.
Genuinely, what should the Soviet Union have done instead? Let the Nazis take all of Poland?
Jfc you are sociopath aren't you? False Dichotomy of the century! Heres a fuckin idea... NOT DO ALL THIS SHIT??
In total, the Soviets killed tens of thousands of Polish prisoners of war. Many of them, like General Józef Olszyna-Wilczyński, captured, interrogated and shot on 22 September, were killed during the 1939 campaign.[22][23] On 24 September, 1939, the Soviets killed 42 staff and patients of a Polish military hospital in the village of Grabowiec, near Zamość.[24] The Soviets also executed all the Polish officers they captured after the Battle of Szack, on 28 September.[25]by January 1940 the NKVD's campaign was also directed against potential allies, including Polish Communists and Socialists. Those arrested included Władysław Broniewski, Aleksander Wat, Tadeusz Peiper, Leopold Lewin, Anatol Stern, Teodor Parnicki, Marian Czuchnowski and many others.[28] The Soviet NKVD executed about 65,000 imprisoned Poles after being subjected to show trials.
[17]Approximately 100,000 Polish citizens were arrested during the two years of Soviet occupation.[31] The prisons soon got severely overcrowded, with all detainees accused of anti-Soviet activities.[17] The NKVD had to open dozens of ad-hoc prison sites in almost all towns of the region.[32] The wave of arrests and mock convictions contributed to the forced resettlement of large categories of people ("kulaks", Polish civil servants, forest workers, university professors, "osadniks") to the Gulag labour camps and exile settlements in remote areas of the Soviet Union.
No youre right. Their only option was to out Nazi the Nazis.
JFC humanity is cooked.
Most of the area the Soviets took are areas in modern Lithuania and Ukraine. Poland had annexed them in the Polish-Soviet War and the Polish-Lithuanian War earlier.
As for the second question, no, I'm not a sociopath, I'm genuinely asking you if you would have rather had the Nazis take all of Poland.
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
I'm genuinely asking you if you would have rather had the Nazis take all of Poland.
Than youre a moron or an asshole because that is not a good faith question.
It's entirely good-faith, and you don't need to resort to insults to avoid it. What should the USSR have done? The west already rejected the USSR's pleas for an anti-Nazi pact, and the Nazis had already taken the vast majority of Poland.
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
It's entirely good-faith
Sounds like something a sociopath would say after trying to convince someone war crimes were justifiable cuz of the existence of other war crimes.
You deserve to be insulted for what you're saying -Po polsku.
You quite literally claimed the Soviets "out-Nazi'd the Nazis." You aren't being a serious person, and you're hiding behind ableist insults. What about the Lithuanians and Ukrainians annexed by Poland?
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
you're hiding behind ableist insults
You literally asked me if it would be better for nazis to commit war crimes than the soviets.
That's fucked up. You deserve to be called negative things for saying that.
No, I asked if you would have rather the Nazis take all of Poland. You're doing Holocaust trivialization right now, equating the Nazis with the communists in their treatment of Poland, and again dodging that the areas the Soviets invaded were largely areas Poland had invaded 2 decades prior. You're the meme.
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
Soviets took over 52% of Poland. Your argument is extremely fucking invalid.
Genuinely, what should the Soviet Union have done instead? Let the Nazis take all of Poland?
Jfc you are sociopath aren't you? False Dichotomy of the century! Heres a fuckin idea... NOT DO ALL THIS SHIT??
In total, the Soviets killed tens of thousands of Polish prisoners of war. Many of them, like General Józef Olszyna-Wilczyński, captured, interrogated and shot on 22 September, were killed during the 1939 campaign.[22][23] On 24 September, 1939, the Soviets killed 42 staff and patients of a Polish military hospital in the village of Grabowiec, near Zamość.[24] The Soviets also executed all the Polish officers they captured after the Battle of Szack, on 28 September.[25]by January 1940 the NKVD's campaign was also directed against potential allies, including Polish Communists and Socialists. Those arrested included Władysław Broniewski, Aleksander Wat, Tadeusz Peiper, Leopold Lewin, Anatol Stern, Teodor Parnicki, Marian Czuchnowski and many others.[28] The Soviet NKVD executed about 65,000 imprisoned Poles after being subjected to show trials.
[17]Approximately 100,000 Polish citizens were arrested during the two years of Soviet occupation.[31] The prisons soon got severely overcrowded, with all detainees accused of anti-Soviet activities.[17] The NKVD had to open dozens of ad-hoc prison sites in almost all towns of the region.[32] The wave of arrests and mock convictions contributed to the forced resettlement of large categories of people ("kulaks", Polish civil servants, forest workers, university professors, "osadniks") to the Gulag labour camps and exile settlements in remote areas of the Soviet Union.
No youre right. Their only option was to out Nazi the Nazis.
JFC humanity is cooked.
Most of the area the Soviets took are areas in modern Lithuania and Ukraine. Poland had annexed them in the Polish-Soviet War and the Polish-Lithuanian War earlier.
As for the second question, no, I'm not a sociopath, I'm genuinely asking you if you would have rather had the Nazis take all of Poland.
Oh, it all makes sense now, here you are denouncing Palestine Action for breaking the law in order to slow down genocide. You're actually a fascist.
Their only option was to out Nazi the Nazis.
Thats pretty much exactly what you said
No youre right. Their only option was to out Nazi the Nazis.
Y'all are doing a great job exampling Americans' poor reading comprehension.
Clearly I'm being facetious... if you passed highschool english.
ugh no wonder people think communism/socialism are categorially bad. You guys are insufferable.
- Assuming everyone pointing out that you were doing Holocaust trivialization is USian is chauvanistic, same with insinuating others must not've finished highschool English.
- You're doing a great job exampling Canadian love for Nazis.
Video Shows Canadian Parliament Giving Standing Ovation to Ex-Waffen SS Fighter?
A video shared in late September 2023 showed Canadian Parliament giving a standing ovation to an ex-Waffen SS (Nazi) fighter.Aleksandra Wrona (Snopes.com)
You guys are snipping apart and mis-quoting my comments like its your first day seeing punctuation.
You're doing a great job exampling Canadian love for Nazis.
We narrowly avoided our own MAGA government. We have a huge ass right wing nazi problem... and "Death to Canada" is a fucking goldmine for them publicity wise.
No, we are reading your comments as we see them. You've continued to equate the communists with the Nazis, despite the literal Holocaust.
Well than you either have poor reading comprehension or are so terminally online that you cannot take things at face value without inserting your own hyperbole.
The death to Canada thing is another topic. I don't know if I accidentally cross-mentioned it or if you just read my profile. But it has nothing to do with my comment on this meme.
TLDR: Not only nazis were harmed by the soviet invasion of Poland. That's all I said. that's all I'm saying. If you can't accept that than that's on you.
you're embodying the meme.
You guys are accusing me of Hollocaust minimalism for acknowledging that non-nazi polish people were hurt by the soviet invasions.
WHAT THE FUCK?
No, we are calling out your Holocaust trivialization because you do it when you say shit like this:
You literally asked me if it would be better for nazis to commit war crimes than the soviets.That's fucked up. You deserve to be called negative things for saying that.
You're equating the Holocaust with excesses on the Soviet side.
Plus, you've never apologized for your ableism, misgendering, etc.
No I'm not and no amount of insisting otherwise or downvoting will change that.
Plus, you've never apologized for your ableism, misgendering, etc.
That's because you don't deserve one.
When you call what the Soviets and Nazis did both "war crimes" and paint them as equivalent, it directly implies a similar quantity and quality, when that's so far removed from the truth that it's genuine Holocaust trivialization.
Secondly, defending your misgendering and ableism is just proving everyone here correct.
a) not a seppo
b) your facetiousness was rather obviously
Their only option was to out Nazi the Nazis.
as in
they didn't have to be worse than the nazis but they were
which is holocaust trivialization
This is the meme my top comment is replying to:
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This is my statement about that meme:
Not only nazis were harmed by the soviet invasion of Poland. That's all I said. that's all I'm saying. If you can't accept that than that's on you.
It's not my fault you sea lioning winners found dumb shit to justify misrepresenting what I'm saying.
Genuinely, what should the Soviet Union have done instead? Let the Nazis take all of Poland?
Start with not making a pact with Nazis to divide Europe imo. That's one part that was enabling the Nazi expansion.
Them: “so what should they have done?”
You: “Well I’ll tell you what they shouldn’t have done!”
So, in short, you can’t actually answer the question.
I'm not sure if you're being purposefully obtuse or joking but deciding not to do something is an act in itself. You asked what they should have done, they should've decided against pact with Nazi Germany. That's the start. Then prepare for all that entails.
We know they chose to make a pact with the Nazis and to divide Poland, they chose to invade the parts the Nazis left to them, they decided on all of these actions. They weren't some inevitable laws of nature bound to happen and impossible to avoid
"I shot a man, what should I have done?"
"Well not shoot him"
"yOu haVen'T anSweRed thE quEstion"
lol
What arguments
If you don't even know what the arguments are then I don't think it makes sense to continue on this particular thread
overwritten insults
What is this overwritten insult you keep referring to
"So what should they have done??"
"Don't make a pact with them prepare for war"
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So you're still just arguing for them to deliberately put themselves in a worse position even though you have benefit of hindsight to know that would have likely resulted in a Nazi victory on the eastern front.
Sounds like you just wanted the Nazis to win
Haha, what a crazy way of thinking.
"Don't eat your own shit!"
"Well, what should I do instead of eating my own shit?! 😕"
You don't have to have formal pact or alliance in place to pledge to declare war in case of another country is invaded. You don't have to have an agreement in place to share intelligence to them, such as the secret protocols or about the negotiations, etc etc. They could've done more.
Goebbels even tried to blame one such massacre on the Red Army, Katyn, despite the spent ammunition clearly being marked as produced by Nazi Germany in 1941.
Oof. Soviet Union already admitted to Katyn massacre. Time to let this conspiracy theory go.
So your point is that the Soviet Union should have fought the Nazis there and then, without formalizing alliance with the west who made it clear that they wished the Nazis and Soviets would kill each other? You would have had the Soviets commit suicide for Poland, rather than trying to close their industrial gap with the Nazis as much as possible and align with the west? This is incredibly silly.
As for Katyn, it's more intentional mistranslation, there was admittance of prisoner transport. None of this explains why the execution method was the exact same as the Nazis, in Nazi territory, with Nazi bullets manufactured during 1941.
I'm saying they could've threatened to. USSR, France, UK all declaring war at the same time because of the invasion would've been a better deterrent than just France and UK, especially since it would be war on both sides.
As for Katyn, it’s more intentional mistranslation, there was admittance of prisoner transport. None of this explains why the execution method was the exact same as the Nazis, in Nazi territory, with Nazi bullets manufactured during 1941.
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It's been admitted to many times. It's no error.
Russian parliament admits guilt over Polish massacre
Symbolic acknowledgment of culpability over Katyn murders in 1940 signals Russia's willingness to face up to its pastTom Parfitt (The Guardian)
This is incredibly silly. The Soviet Union had no strong alliance with western countries, even after Britain and France declared war they did jack shit other than a naval blockade. After the Soviets went into Poland, Britain finally extended diplomatic talks of an alliance. The Soviet Union was rapidly industrializing, but was behind Nazi Germany and needed firm acknowledgement of a real alliance.
As for Katyn, the bullets were Nazi-produced in 1941, the grave was "found" by Nazis, the rope used was German produced, the execution method was the same as the Nazis, and Goebbels was the one who started the story. The anti-communist government in Russia "admitted" to doing it, but material evidence directly points to the Nazis doing so.
I mean USSR could've backed away from actually declaring the war or waited to see what the West does. That is if Germany would've risked attacking Poland then. We don't know because that's not what USSR ended up doing.
As for Katyn, the bullets were Nazi-produced in 1941, the grave was “found” by Nazis, the rope used was German produced, the execution method was the same as the Nazis, and Goebbels was the one who started the story. The anti-communist government in Russia “admitted” to doing it, but material evidence directly points to the Nazis doing so.
This is all part of a conspiracy theory not taken seriously by the actual field of researchers or the governments of the relevant countries. I don't think it will be very fruitful to continue on into conspiracy theory zone here.
So you think the Soviets should've let the Nazis take Poland, got it. Guess you think the Holocaust wasn't that bad after all? I would hope not, but the direct consequence of the Soviets waiting any longer than they did (17 days, Britain and France declared war after 2 but did jack shit) would be more Holocaust.
As for Katyn, no, this isn't conspiracy theory. The basic facts of the execution method being the same, Goebbels reporting on it, and the materials being Nazi-made all point to Nazi involvement. Anti-communist organizations and governments agreeing with Goebbels despite the evidence doesn't mean it's a conspiracy theory:
“Of 225 shells found in this grave, 205 are the German 1941 “Hasag” type, 17 are the German 1941 “Dürlach” type, 2 are of the unmarked 1930s Soviet type; and one is marked “B 1906.” Hence 98.67% of the shells are of 1941 German manufacture.”
The roots of tying the Soviets to Katyn lie in trying to push Holocaust trivialization by making the Soviets out to be as "bad as the Nazis," thereby uplifting the Nazis and demonizing the Soviets.
So you think the Soviets should’ve let the Nazis take Poland, got it.
I've been arguing for means to prevent invasion (from either side) from the beginning.
As for Katyn, no, this isn’t conspiracy theory.
I mean according to the field of researchers, the relevant governments (even the one responsible for it), it very much is. USSR admitted to it, the legal successor state admitted to it, lot of the damning documents have been declassified... It's dead, Jim.
Tbh it would be a conspiracy theory in either case since you think there's a conspiracy to hide the truth.
You list no means that the Soviets didn't already try. You're effectively wishing for magic.
Back to Katyn, you have no explanation for why the bullets were German and produced in 1941, why the rope was German, the method Nazi, and the originator of the story Goebbels. There's mountains of evidence against the documents listed as "proof" of Soviet guilt:
The mistakes and inconsistencies in this letter are many. To start, the letter is “Top Secret”. Standard procedure for a “Top Secret” letter were to write on the letter the name of the person who typed it, the names of all the persons who have seen the document, the names of all persons to whom this letter is to be sent, the number of copies made of this letter, the carbon paper used to make a copy of it and finally the tape of the typewriter used to make this paper. For the “Beria document”, none of these exist. Without these precautions, it is not a “Top Secret” letter. The forger of this document either was not aware of the requirements of a “Top Secret” paper, or such requirements could not be forged by them. Either way, this paper immediately looses its value, and furthermore shows it is a forgery.But the mistakes do not stop here. The signatures of the members of the Politburo go against the form. In this letter, 4 members of the Politburo have simply signed their names. By this act, they have rejected the request of Beria. You see, if the members of the Politburo agreed to send out an order or to carry out a request, it was necessary for them to sign the document, and to write next to their signatures “agreed” or “after”. In order for the request to be agreed and the order to be sent out, the members had to express their agreement to the request or their agreement to an order being sent. If they simply signed the paper, it meant that the members had read the document, but had not agreed to it and had not sent out any orders. The forger was obviously not aware of this and has made the mistake. Even if this request is authentic, which it is not, it was not accepted by the Politburo.
On the first page of the document, along with the four signatures of Stalin, Molotov, Mikoyan and Voroshilov, the forger added the names of Kaganovich and Kalinin underneath these. What the forger was not aware of, is that both Kaganovich and Kalinin were absent from the 13th Session of the Politburo in March 1940. They could not have placed their signatures on this document.
Skip to the "forgeries" section.
Katyn
GERMANS COMMITTED THE KATYN FOREST MASSACRE All the evidence I secured showed that the Polish group in London was more interested in doing something against Russia than in doing anything for Poland…The Espresso Stalinist
Soviets didn't "try" to threaten to declare war if Poland was invaded. The whole thing is about what could've been if they had taken that step instead of what they ended up doing.
Back to Katyn
No.
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Hah
Katyn
GERMANS COMMITTED THE KATYN FOREST MASSACRE All the evidence I secured showed that the Polish group in London was more interested in doing something against Russia than in doing anything for Poland…The Espresso Stalinist
Gotcha, the Soviets should have risked entering a war they weren't certain they could win and weren't certain the west wouldn't flip on them. In other words, you wish they had committed suicide for Poland.
As for Katyn, it's the same source that you read earlier, it's Grover Furr's blog. Grover Furr often makes poor arguments, but the historical evidence he presents is valid. You can't explain the factual discrepancies in the documents, the eyewitness accounts stating that the Nazis did it, nor the German ammunition from 1941, nor the German produced rope, nor the Nazi execution methods, nor why you're agreeing with Goebbels, who first created the story and whose account the anti-communist governments agree with. In absence of a response, you just say "No" and "Hah."
You say gotcha a lot but I'm sorry to say you haven't gotcha it a lot. I said they could've threatened it to use as deterrent. It never got that far though, threat or actual declaration because of Poland. My meaning and your gotcha are often very different.
As for Katyn
You do keep trying but like said, not interested in this conspiracy theory.
- If they threatened war, they would have been attacked. They knew an attack was coming, and giving the Nazis a cause for war could have been used by the west to side with the Nazis. This was not without evidence.
Harry Truman later, in 1941 in front of the Senate, stated:
If we see that Germany is winning we ought to help Russia, and if Russia is winning we ought to help Germany, and that way let them kill as many as possible, although I don’t want to see Hitler victorious under any circumstances.
- Are you calling the mountains of evidence the Nazis did it falsified, or do you just make it a habit to take Goebbels at his word?
If they threatened war, they would have been attacked.
We don't know that, nor if the attack on Poland would've gone ahead with the threat from both sides. That's why it would've been a gamble. Then again, so was making a deal with them, Germany might have continued on the attack once both sides met in Poland.
The USSR tried extremely hard to form a unified opposition to the Nazis, and the Western powers responded by signing pacts with the Nazis. As a result, the USSR was left with the choice to also sign a pact to buy time and keep the Nazis out of some of Eastern Europe for a time, or to let them have Eastern Europe and then have to fight a war from a worse position with less preparation.
They literally did choose the option that allowed them to put up the strongest opposition possible. If they had done what you wanted, the Nazis would have won the Eastern front.
We don’t know when Nazis would’ve invaded USSR.
But they would have invaded, probably sooner, so just letting them have all of Eastern Europe in advance would have resulted in the Nazis winning the Eastern front.
They still had Western Allies to deal with.
Which was true when they invaded them historically too, so I'm not sure what your point was.
The pact gave breathing room to USSR but it also pointed them towards West.
The USSR already did the overwhelming amount of the work in defeating the Nazis, it's pretty file to say they should have let themselves get annihilated so the West could do even less.
I’m not sure why people think it’s either or when I’ve been very clearly saying that neither should’ve been making the deals.
Because what you think they "should" have done is completely fucking irrelevant to the objective stone fact that the western allies did make those deals. That was the material reality the USSR had to content with, not your fantasy world that you keep bringing up despite the fact that no-one asked, presumably just to waste time. Shut the fuck up about what you think the western allies "should" have done: we are talking about the actual world.
I’d say that’s all around pretty objectionable.
So basically your argument is that 100 million lives aren't valuable enough to be pragmatic about
I mean they did make those deals, Soviet Union made the deals, I think it was all shit.
So basically your argument is that 100 million lives aren’t valuable enough to be pragmatic about
Pragmatism from all sides when dealing with Nazis is what caused the situation to get that far tbqh
I mean they did make those deals, Soviet Union made the deals, I think it was all shit.
How many times do I have to tell you that nobody asked, and nobody cares, before you stop repeating this? Shut the fuck up about what you think the western allies “should” have done: we are talking about the actual world.
Pragmatism from all sides when dealing with Nazis is what caused the situation to get that far tbqh
Nonsense
Given that you've been reduced to knowingly lying and deliberately pretending you can't be coherent, yes, I think it has.
It's definitely further entrenched my experience that every time I've had this discussion with someone, they always end up being a proudly dishonest crypto-Nazi
We don't know when Nazis would've invaded USSR.
I was trying to say that it was evidently "as soon as possible".
I meant they agreed to divide Poland's area according to the lines mentioned "if something happened to it (heh)". So stopping the attack and handing over extra parts are all according to keikaku.
World War II certainly wasn’t “done” afterwards
No I meant dividing Poland part from the agreement.
- Why did the Soviets move in to Poland?
- Why not fully agree to joint-invasion in a secret section of the pact?
You have no answers for this, again, you seem to be arguing that the Nazis should have been allowed to extend the Holocaust to all of Poland, including the areas Poland annexxed from Lithuania and Ukraine.
- No, lmao. The Soviets had little economic incentive to invade, their economy was a planned one and not one that relied on colonization like the Nazis. Get a better answer.
- They didn't agree to an invasion in the pact, that's why.
But invade they did and got their part. As agreed.
Why not fully agree to joint-invasion in a secret section of the pact?They didn’t agree to an invasion in the pact, that’s why.
It doesn't really answer the question of what benefit there would've been to "fully agree to joint-invasion" when they got everything they wanted to out of the pact with the postponed invasion
There was no agreement to invade or divide Europe.
No agreement to divide Europe..?
Secret protocol
- In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement in the areas belonging to the Baltic States (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), the northern boundary of Lithuania shall represent the boundary of the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. In this connection the interest of Lithuania in the Vilna area is recognized by each party.
- In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. shall be bounded approximately by the line of the rivers Narew, Vistula, and San.
The question of whether the interests of both parties make desirable the maintenance of an independent Polish state and how such a state should be bounded can only be definitely determined in the course of further political developments.
In any event both Governments will resolve this question by means of a friendly agreement.
- With regard to Southeastern Europe attention is called by the Soviet side to its interest in Bessarabia. The German side declares; its complete political disinterestedness in these areas.
Also this treaty: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German%E…
There was no agreement to invade or divide Europe.
It's literally spelling out how they're dividing Europe lol
They agreed to spheres of influence.
Yes that's what the secret protocol is about, it spells it out very clearly
You're implying
- That the Soviets intended on invading Europe, and having the pact last
- That the Soviets wanted to invade.
Neither is backed up by the facts at hand.
They didn't, though. They went to war to stop the Nazis, the only time it came into use was when the Nazis invaded Poland and the soviets prevented them from taking all of Poland.
Also, there's no need to reply on both threads.
The dividing into speheres of influence and subsequent actions in those spheres all happened. Not just Poland but elsewhere. You're more arguing about justification, which is different matter.
Also, there’s no need to reply on both threads.
Reply to just one of these next and we'll continue on that thread. Up to you which
Nazi-Soviet Relations 1939-1941 : Documents from the German Foreign Office
German Diplomatic Papers dealing with relations with the Soviet Union during the period at the beginning of the Second World War. Contains the Nazi-Soviet Non-agression Pact.avalon.law.yale.edu
If this isn't a trollpost and your not getting paid for it, then I'm just baffled on how wrong someone can be regarding generic historical facts. Aside from the idea itself, that it is somehow normal and even commendable to assist foreign states against enemies without them requesting it, all the while criticizing the US for similar actions, your opinion ignores the whole Molotov-Ribbentrop secret pact.
And for argument's sake, let's just pretend, that Soviets were of kind heart and mind and truly wanted to help and protect the Polish people from the horrifing Nazis they so clearly detested. Then why did they host a joint parade in Brest-Litovsk after having conquered Poland?? Or better yet, why did they mercilessly execute 20 000 officers in the woods of Katyn? Not to mention the fact that the Warsaw Uprising failed because the Soviets deliberatly waited for all future dissidents to be killed off, before "liberating" it.
Wasn't there also a really egregious part where they were estimating how many children the average young adult woman had in Tsarist Russia vs the USSR, and because the birth rates were lower in the USSR, they counted the supposed population deficit as victims?
Gonna make like a goose and ask them why women in the USSR had lower birth rates. Couldn't be access to contraception/abortion, sex and family planning education, equal rights as men, or better career options, right?
Since we're starting this debate again, I do wish to ask the people that think the Soviets shouldn't have gone into Poland: what should the Soviets have done?
With benefit of hindsight and access to whatever formerly-secret documents, what is the best course of action for them?
should the Soviets have done?
Not committed war crimes? Amazing that Cowbee@lemmy.ml & Edie@lemmy.ml can't wrap their head around war crimes being bad regardless of who commits them.
With benefit of hindsight and access to whatever formerly-secret documents, what is the best course of action for them?
I'm not going to armchair debate about human atrocities. Thats fucked up.
You seem to believe that the Soviets should,
Where did I say or indicate that?
I am not asking you.
Same bro. Dunno why the fuck you guys are trying to make me say that Soviets invading and killing eveyrone was better than the nazi's invading and killin everyone. Thats fucked up.
Well, you said specifically (only said) they shouldn't have committed war crimes, which to some extent indicates that they should have gone into Poland. If you had a problem with them going into Poland, you should have talked about that and not brought up a different thing.
Why are you talking to me if you don't want to? You can just... not.
Also I am not your bro.
Also please stop deleting your comments.
1) This is a meme subreddit. Not a history subreddit. So I'm not obligated to engage in deep 20th century debates.
So if you want context to my statements look at the meme and read my top comment. I'm pushing back against the notion that only "guilty nazis" were hurt by the soviets. And I provided evidence.
I am fully justified in ripping on anyone who tries to misrepresent what I said.
2)
Why are you talking to me if you don't want to? You can just... not.
I'm throwing you words back at you. You said "I'm not asking first".
3)
Also I am not your bro.
And I'm not your buddy.
4)
Also please stop deleting your comments.
No.
Sometimes I have to edit things for clarity so I repost them.
I’m pushing back against the notion that only “guilty nazis” were hurt by the soviets.
Ok... And I never said that?
You seem to believe that the Soviets should,
Where did I say or indicate that?
I am not asking you.
Same bro. Dunno why the fuck you guys are trying to make me say that Soviets invading and killing eveyrone was better than the nazi's invading and killin everyone. Thats fucked up.
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I mean they could've not made a pact with Nazi Germany to jointly divide Eastern Europe. Like start from that.
And before anyone mentions, that includes others who made pacts with them too.
Them: "so what should they have done?"
You: "Well I'll tell you what they shouldn't have done!"
So, in short, you can't actually answer the question.
Refuse to enable Nazi expansion, prepare for war, try to make allies. So carry on before they chose to make a pact. Making that pact with Nazis wasn't some inevitable law of nature they just had to do. You can always resist.
There's always a reason for all kinds of actions but it's just an attempt to avoid moral scrutiny to present the situation as inevitable. There were other options, they chose not to do those but rather made a pact. Agree or disagree with the decision from moral or some realpolitik sense, doesn't matter. Presenting it as inevitable is avoidance.
They did prepare for war with the Nazis, and the pact was part of that. So I take it then your answer is that they shouldn't have prepared as much for the war with the Nazis.
Given that the level of preparedness they did manage was still only barely enough to win, you answer is ultimately that you wanted the USSR to take a course of action that would have allowed the Nazis to win the Eastern Front.
Which is ultimately always what it comes down; resentment that the Soviets won.
Ok.
The USSR isn't obligated to sabotage it's own existence because some random unborn Finish person "would've preferred to see it"
Not to mention the UK and Frances commitment turned out to be extremely token, a fact that came as zero suprise to the USSR
Ok.
If you're just going to be literally incoherent then you might as well fuck off
Not sure if we are supposed to agree with everything our countries have historically done.
The irony of an anticommunist saying this is palpable.
these sort of deals enables Nazis to conquer much of Europe.
Stalin offered a million men to France and the UK to stop the nazis. They refused.
Meanwhile, your country was literally in the Axis in WW2, and helped the nazis carry out their atrocities.
Meanwhile, your country was literally in the Axis in WW2, and helped the nazis carry out their atrocities.
Am I personally guilty of what happened in my country's the past or how is that relevant?
Damn, not a fan of people bringing up completely irrelevant points about what other countries should have done?
Crazy. Sure would be embarrassing if that was something you constantly did yourself.
what should the Soviets have done?
shouldve stayed put and get exterminated, it is unforgivable that they had agency and made a strategic appeasements with Germany 😔 however it was perfectly ok for the rest of europe powers to do it! 🤓
I see you're lucky enough not to be familiar with the Victims of Communism Foundation. This is pretty standard for them.
They're also extremely successfully at mainstreaming these kind of views: they're often cited by "respectable" western media like BBC, are used by Wikipedia, and are the original and only source for a lot of the kind of scandalous accusations against China that liberals will call you a tankie if you don't believe
Surprised there are still comments denouncing it on X. Guess Grok isn't as good at censoring wokism as Elon claims.
Also, I like this picture, gonna post it here in case it gets removed:
Often hilarious how the history is biased by some collectives. Officially US the good ones which won Nazi Germany, despite that is was Rusia and the allied, the US only enter when almost everything was done.
After this the cold war, where secret US papers were filtred, specifying locations in Europe where they were going to use nuclear bombs to stop an alleged Russian invasion.
Cuba crisis, it causes almost a WWIII, because evil Russia wanted to park there nuclear missiles. What is never mentioned, was,that it was an answer to the US nuclear missiles that were parked long before in Turkey, pointing to Russia. The escalation was avoided by an Rusian commander, while the US already had the finger on the red button.
Yes, certainly communism is really bad and the US the good boys which always save the world, even by nuke civilians in two cities, training and arm jihadists and Talibans, destroying democracies supporting dictators, like the September 11 with over 3000 victims, in 1973, when the CIA organized and supported an military coup by Pinochet to eliminate Allende.
Most of the currend Wars in the world and dictatorships are direct or indirect caused by the work of our good US boys. Thank you America, GFY
Officially US the good ones which won Nazi Germany, despite that is was Rusia and the allied, the US only enter when almost everything was done
The Soviet Union (and I say that to emphasize that it was not simply Russia) and other Allies also played an important role in the Pacific Theatre too once they had some breathing space. I suppose the US glorify it so aggressively because it's one of the few major wars they were on the winning side of, but when they rapidly promoted former Nazis to high political positions and launched Operation Gladio, one can't help but realize their troops were only sent there to stop those Nazis, not Nazism.
And they intervened in Europe not to stop the nazis but the Soviets from taking it all, which would've happened in no time if they didn't meet the 'allieds' in Berlin.
I wonder who they were allied with BTW, since they saved 10000's of nazis from the Soviets and evacuated them, or in Italy let them surrender and enabled them to go fight the Soviets.
All of the nazis in the west got fully rehabilitated despite the handful of death penalties in the Nuremberg showtrials.
Oh, I wouldn't say "freed", more like "under new management" 😅
Katyn gets pinned on the Soviets because Goebbels reported on it and it became a useful story, but the execution method was distinctly Nazi, ie killing men, women, and children from behind into mass graves. The ammunition was German-produced in 1941, and the rope used to bind the hands of the victims was German made.
The Soviets absolutely killed Polish soldiers, but the character of their involvement was not anywhere close to what the Nazis reported.
The Poles asked for their troops back when they were forming a USSR-based army and were told that thousands had mysteriously escaped. Then when asked for an official investigation, the Soviets broke ties with the Polish government in exile and made their own.
The Soviets themselves later admitted it was the NKVD. Are you defending the USSR from its own slander?
You have no explanation for why the bullets were German and produced in 1941, why the rope was German, the method Nazi, and the originator of the story Goebbels. There's mountains of evidence against the documents listed as "proof" of Soviet guilt:
The mistakes and inconsistencies in this letter are many. To start, the letter is “Top Secret”. Standard procedure for a “Top Secret” letter were to write on the letter the name of the person who typed it, the names of all the persons who have seen the document, the names of all persons to whom this letter is to be sent, the number of copies made of this letter, the carbon paper used to make a copy of it and finally the tape of the typewriter used to make this paper. For the “Beria document”, none of these exist. Without these precautions, it is not a “Top Secret” letter. The forger of this document either was not aware of the requirements of a “Top Secret” paper, or such requirements could not be forged by them. Either way, this paper immediately looses its value, and furthermore shows it is a forgery.But the mistakes do not stop here. The signatures of the members of the Politburo go against the form. In this letter, 4 members of the Politburo have simply signed their names. By this act, they have rejected the request of Beria. You see, if the members of the Politburo agreed to send out an order or to carry out a request, it was necessary for them to sign the document, and to write next to their signatures “agreed” or “after”. In order for the request to be agreed and the order to be sent out, the members had to express their agreement to the request or their agreement to an order being sent. If they simply signed the paper, it meant that the members had read the document, but had not agreed to it and had not sent out any orders. The forger was obviously not aware of this and has made the mistake. Even if this request is authentic, which it is not, it was not accepted by the Politburo.
On the first page of the document, along with the four signatures of Stalin, Molotov, Mikoyan and Voroshilov, the forger added the names of Kaganovich and Kalinin underneath these. What the forger was not aware of, is that both Kaganovich and Kalinin were absent from the 13th Session of the Politburo in March 1940. They could not have placed their signatures on this document.
Skip to the "forgeries" section.
Katyn
GERMANS COMMITTED THE KATYN FOREST MASSACRE All the evidence I secured showed that the Polish group in London was more interested in doing something against Russia than in doing anything for Poland…The Espresso Stalinist
Per our other conversation, the Soviets were trading for German finished goods. Why would you not expect to find German goods here??
And again, the Soviets themselves admitted to it. Why are you even discussing forgeries?
The ammunition was dated at 1941. Further, Soviet weaponry fired entirely different cartridges.
As for the Soviets "admitting it," it was the anti-communist factions that produced the "evidence," and said evidence directly contains serious flaws that other official documentation did not have. The origin of the story is with Goebbels. The post-Stalin CPSU was filled with those seeking to undermine the Soviet Union for political gain, like Khrushchev and Gorbachev, and we also have evidence that Soviet officials falsified documents for political gain.
German-USSR trade was still ongoing in 1941. As part of that trade they did gain access to samples of German artillery, tanks and more. German companies were also known to export arms (in violation of the Versailles treaty) well before WWII. And even if you deny that, there were dozens of countries manufacturing arms and ammo in the German caliber because, get this, German guns were well designed!
Dismissing all evidence that could put Soviets in a bad light, even when it's internal. Truly you are a Communist at heart.
So let's put all that aside: capturing thousands of POWs and having them end up massacred in a ditch is acceptable? There's no fault attributable to them for having this happen to people in their control and under their protection?
In order for the Soviets to have been guilty, it would have had to happen around 1939-1940. 1940 is the date Goebbels reported, and is accepted by those pinning it on the Soviets, because that would be when the Soviets most plausibly could have done it. Further, again, the Soviet weaponry did not fire German ammunition. The evidence in favor of the Nazis committing the Katyn Massacre are staggering, and the evidence provided by the anti-communist Yeltsin regime are flimsy at best.
Either way, putting it all aside, the Soviets did kill Polish soldiers that resisted them and/or cooperated with the Nazis, Slovak Republic, and OUN. They did not slaughter civilians like the Nazis did, certainly not children. There's absolutely fault to be found in excess, but if we just accept Geobbels' word for everything then that excess becomes parody and we remove ourselves from genuine analysis.
1940 is the date Goebbels reported
All of these were verified by the Red Cross and there are stacks of documents giving evidence and testimony to the contrary. But yes, I suppose if you throw out everything you don't like then any argument will get flimsy. Certainly we don't get "genuine analysis" as you put it.
Further, again, the Soviet weaponry did not fire German ammunition.
The NKVD was a police force, they were under no compulsion to use military issue weapons. There are other documented instances of them using foreign weapons, it's not out of the ordinary.
This whole weapon discussion is circumstantial evidence at best, there are plenty of ways it could have happened. And of course Goebbels was eager to report it, it's very well documented in his own records that he was excited about the find and the bad PR it would give the Soviets. The fact that you're dismissing the general consensus that the international community has come to after decades of investigation just to maintain your own narrative is pretty disappointing.
America rightly draws criticism for their strong arm enforcement of "democratic values" through occupation, but you see no parallel to the USSR enforcing "Soviet values" through the same occupation strategy. You've got some massive blinders on.
So the evidence corroborating Goebbels supports the 1940 idea, despite Nazi ammunition dating 1941 was found, along with German rope, Nazi execution modus operandi, eyewitness reports corroborating that it was the Nazis that did it, and there's tons of discrepancies from the anti-communist Yeltsin-regime released documents. Sounds like more proof that the Nazis did it. All this is is you taking a declarative stance that you trust the Nazis and the Red Scare-era west against modern historical investigation.
As for the soviets, they tended towards 2 directions: 1, national sovereignty and self-determination, as well as 2, support for socialist movements. They weren't imperialist like the US is, so they didn't stand to gain from the same economic compulsions that drive the US to plunder the global south.
No worries! And yea, I know we don't agree 100%, but I do think we overall agree more than disagree, at least from what I can tell. Personally, I'm often posting when my ADHD is pushing me away from responsibilities like work, chores, etc so it isn't always the best for me 🫠
Reached out to finally get organized IRL though, so I managed to overcome my procrastination and social anxiety enough for that!
But I do think we overall more agree than disagree
Precisely; well put
Also I can relate somewhat with the impulses and procrastination (tho it's ASD for me LOL), but especially the anxiety and am glad you are able to work on improving in that regard 😀
Thanks! And from what I've gathered from my ASD friends, there's a lot in common between ASD and ADHD. They aren't the same, of course, and AuDHD is its own thing, but I've been able to relate especially well with those in my life with ASD ever since I was a kiddo.
Have a good one!
If you have an open mind and have ~3 minutes, I can recommend this short clip from a Michael Parenti lecture
Further "reading" if you're interested:
- YouTube
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Institute for the Study of Totalitarian Regimes
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The new center was soon embroiled in a scandal: in October 2008 the journal Respect published a text stigmatizing the celebrated writer Milan Kundera for having ‘given’ a young student, Miroslav Dvořáček, to the Communist police in 1950. In fact, the accusation was organized by an institute employee, Adam Hradilek, a relative of Dvořáček.¹⁵From that moment forward, the center and those running it have been the target of ever more incisive criticism. Jiří Pehe, former advisor to President Vaclav Havel and current director of the New York University in Prague, commented: ‘From its inception this Institute was occupied by people with a Jacobin style of managing history.’ His next remark leaves no room for doubt: ‘The [Institute’s] board reflects the political reality of who is in power.’¹⁶
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Investigation of Communist Crimes and the Memory of the Romanian Exile
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Archaeology […] was annexed to a political process, that of the official condemnation of communism, its role being to provide new incriminating evidence to confirm and supplement already known data about the communist repression (assembled from archive documents, testimonies of former political prisoners, eyewitnesses, local memory, etc.).Interestingly, none of the archaeological texts regarding the exhumations has been published in academic journals or volumes; they have been published on the website of the IICCR/IICCMER and, most of them, in the journal of the Foundation Memoria (established in 1990 by a former political prisoner), suggestively titled Memory. Journal of Arrested Thought (in Romanian), a journal with an anti-communist, Eurocentrist and Christian discourse.
Huh, how strange. Could it be…
IICCR, subordinate to the Romanian government and coordinated by the prime minister
Wow! The capitalist governments facilitating the Nakba are the same ones funding these hopelessly corrupt anticommie think tanks?
I’m so surprised!
History, Memory and Politics in Central and Eastern Europe
Fourteen specialists of Central and Eastern European politics explore memory policies and politics by examining how and why contested memories are constantly reactivated in the former Soviet bloc.Google Books
Victim mentality is on the rise, for two reasons. Firstly people are being led to believe their special and entitled to success without work, and secondly because success has become unattainable even with work.
I think this may have something to do with the rise in Nazism in capitalist countries.
"Fascism is capitalism in decay"
-- IDK
Edit: I think it's also the reactionary response capitalists have to left wing momentum in the population. Hitler leveraged the threat of communism to gain power and the first people he sent to camps were German communists. Sound familiar with this whole woke thing? When a population is stressed they will generally lean either far left or right and the right wing is in power and want to suppress the left wing.
While I agree that when there's a push for change by the left, the elite will redirect it towards the right to save themselves, I don't think that's what's happening here. There isn't an effective push for change on the left for them to fight.
The rise of Trump among young voters was driven in part by the failure of the Democrats to offer a credible alternative (same in the UK), the global rise in the far-right in general (even in countries where they have no credible path to power, like Germany or Australia) is due to the unique psychology our environment has created for this generation.
In case people aren't aware, the Victims of Communism foundation is a US government organization that was set up by an act of congress in 1993.
Congress also passed a bill funding them to design highschool curriculum, called the "crucial communism teaching act".
Congress Revives Cold War Tactics with New Anti-Communism School Curriculum
Although sponsored by Republicans, the new Crucial Communism Teaching Act bill enjoys widespread support from Democrats. Focused on China, Venezuela, Cuba and other targets of US empire, critics warn it will be used to promote war in public schools.Alan Macleod (MintPress News)
Just reminded me of a history teacher who, when teaching the Containment policy, showed us a jar with a slip of paper contained within, which read "COMMUNISM". Displayed prominently in the classroom thereafter.
Didn't work on me. When my assigned seat changed such that the jar and I were out of view of the teacher while at the board, I popped the lid off in front of everyone.
Lol
My high school history class stopped the tankman video right before the tank tried to move out of the way and said "this is the only footage to escape the oppressive regime. We don't know what happened to tank man but we assume he was run over"
When I finally saw the full video I thought it was fake
Why is it so smoky in Colorado? Wildfires burning on western slope affecting state
Why is it so smoky in Colorado? Wildfires burning on western slope affecting state
More than 30,000 acres in northwest Colorado have been destroyed by the Lee and Elk fires since Aug. 2. See the updates., Fort Collins Coloradoan (Fort Collins Coloradoan)
Trump wanted a US-made iPhone. Apple gave him a gold statue.
Trump wanted a US-made iPhone. Apple gave him a gold statue.
Trump’s chip tariffs won’t hit Apple despite no plans for a US-made iPhone.Ashley Belanger (Ars Technica)
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Does Google REALLY think I'm just going to turn the Spyware back on?
Google keeps asking about turning on my location timeline, trying to push for me to turn ON Ad tracking.
Are they stupid? If I'm the type of person who went out of his way to turn this crap off ...do they really think saying "Your in Control" is going to encourage me to turn this s*** back on?
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Not fake setting? lmao
We do not control the software. It fails to include a libre software licence text file.
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I think they know that most people will eventually give in (or accidentally say yes) if they have to close a notification every time they want to do something.
Like you, I aim not to be "most people."
Youe feelings are valid and we should be pushing for proepr regulation.
However, let's be real it isn't happening. This is just one aspect of the class war. Most people are unwilling to go into proepr opposition ie stop using their slop services. They will keep doing this.
It is up to you how much abuse you will accept before taking direct action to punish the parasite.
I am gonna come off as a dick here but OP is stupid enough to have google anything on their most personal of devices
I don't even like YouTube on my TV but suffer it for access.
Using a Google phone as a normie is like being a young actress and doing an audition with Weinstein
I'm gonna come off as a dick here but sunzu2 is stupid enough to have YouTube on their TV? At that point might as well just buy a pixel.
(Maybe a polite link to ways to degoogle a phone would be more productive and make you less of a dick.)
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Well without these slop picture, how would I know what to waste my money on?!?!?
Normie, circa 2025
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OP, I'm not going to castigate you for your Google usage. I am going to assume that you are aware of the privacy concerns when dealing with Google since you are posting here in a Privacy chan. Sometimes, people are required to use Google services and there is no way around that. If that were my situation, I'd use a sandbox, VPN, 7 diff proxies, and a hazmat suit. If this Google usage is not required by say an employer, I'd find something more private.
Google does have some pretty cool technology. Unfortunately most of it, if not all, is built off of data theft.
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Right? I would think that people in a Privacy community, especially one on Lemmy would not use anything Google unless their employers or inexperienced clients forced their hand in some way.
Just to be clear to anyone else, I don't know the lives of anyone in this community, and everyone is on their own path at their own pace.
Nevertheless, it's still a bit exasperating if this is a community where we have to repeat over and over that Google and Apple and everything Big Tech is essentially the bad choice.
As someone who isn't a coder, the reason why I hang out in communities like these for a long time now is to hear the coders and more tech savvy people catching nonsense earlier than I would have on my own. Beyond the code that nonsense includes legislation also.
But that's just me.
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not everyone has nudes on their phones, not everyone will get to know that they are leaked, and afaik google hasn't even leaked user images ever.
they. won't. notice. it. they wouldn't notice even if they were subjected to personalized pricing.
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Unpopular opinion (here anyway):
Google timeline is really useful! Let's you know where you where when you need to know. Have used it, or told people to use it multiple times when someone needs to know when/how long they have been out of the country, or when they moved house etc.
They made a change recently so that it's all local or something? Not sure how that works.
Having home, work and other key locations set in Google maps is also..... Really useful.
I've never come a cross a situation where I need to know how long I've been somewhere more accurately than I can remember that I can't easily figure out some other way
You can also age locations in Google maps without having to store your location 24/7
It's not spyware anymore. It's stored on device so Google does not have access to it. It was a big issue when they did this as people could not longer log into the website and view their history. Right now there is no way to back it up so if you loose your phone you loose your history.
Reading these comments first nobody knows Google moved it locally.
Okay so it doesn't matter that I don't let them collect it in the first place so there's no reason to turn it on, cool.
Unless you're wrong of course, but I trust you, random paragraph I encountered anonymously on an internet forum and engaged with for 8 seconds before moving on with my life forever. You couldn't possibly have a vested interest in misleading me and hey my coffee is ready.
Apple CEO gives Trump gold gift exceeding company policy; Tim Cook's 24-karat gold present exceeds Apple's $10 limit for US officials.
Apple CEO gives Trump gold gift exceeding company policy
Tim Cook's 24-karat gold present exceeds Apple's $10 limit for US officials.Luis Rijo (PPC Land)
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Warren, Sanders, Wyden, Welch Warn Google and YouTube CEOs Against Breaking Anti-Bribery Laws in Potential Settlement with Trump Administration
Warren, Sanders, Wyden, Welch Warn Google and YouTube CEOs Against Breaking Anti-Bribery Laws in Potential Settlement with Trump Administration | U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
The Official U.S. Senate website of Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusettswww.warren.senate.gov
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Exiled Moldovan opposition head decries police crackdown
Exiled Moldovan opposition head decries police crackdown
Exiled Moldovan opposition politician Ilan Shor has denounced the election-related police crackdownRT
Substack’s extremist ecosystem is flourishing
Substack’s extremist ecosystem is flourishing
The app's recent swastika push alert was just the tip of the iceberg.The Handbasket
Getting Started with Cloudflare Tunnel
Getting Started with Cloudflare Tunnel | David Ma
A guide to setting up and using Cloudflare Tunnel for local development.www.davidma.co
Trump Is Launching an AI Search Engine Powered by Perplexity
Trump Is Launching an AI Search Engine Powered by Perplexity
Donald Trump’s media company is teaming up with Perplexity to bring AI search to Truth Social, the President’s X.com alternative.Truth announced the endeavor in a press release on Wednesday. Anyone using the browser version of Truth can now use Perplexity to search the web. “We’re proud to partner with Perplexity to launch our public Beta testing of Truth Social AI, which will make Truth Social an even more vital element in the Patriot Economy,” Devin Nunes, Trump Media's CEO and Chair of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, said in the press release.
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“We’re excited to partner with Truth Social to bring powerful AI to an audience with important questions. Curiosity is the engine of change, and Perplexity’s AI is developed to empower curiosity by delivering direct, reliable answers with transparent citations that allow anyone to dig deeper,” Perplexity’s chief business officer Dmitry Shevelenko said in the press release.According to the announcement, “the mission of Trump Media is to end Big Tech’s assault on free speech by opening up the Internet and giving people their voices back.” Which is a funny thing to put in an announcement about Trump partnering with a company whose investors include Jeff Bezos, Nvidia, and the former CEO of GitHub.
Perplexity’s Truth Social search engine will be powered by stolen content. Earlier this week, Cloudflare reported Perplexity used stealth and undeclared crawlers to evade websites that explicitly set themselves up to avoid being catalogued by LLMs. Perplexity has a long history of using scrapers that ignore the Robots Exclusion Protocol. Perplexity started as a demo that scraped Twitter with fake academic accounts backed by AI-generated research proposals.
Forbes, the New York Times, New York Post, and the Dow Jones have all accused Perplexity of plagiarism. News Corp‘s Dow Jones & Co., publisher of the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post sued Perplexity in 2024 for copyright infringement, claiming in the federal lawsuit that Perplexity is “engaging in a massive amount of illegal copying of publishers’ copyrighted works and diverting customers and critical revenues away from those copyright holders.” In 2024, WIRED reported on the accusations of Perplexity’s plagiarism and Perplexity almost immediately plagiarized the story. When New York Times tech workers went on strike last year, Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas offered to help the Times keep the paper going.
Big Tech has aligned itself with the Trump administration since before the election, seeing an alliance of opportunity for deregulation of AI in particular.
But is the Perplexity-powered AI aggregation machine “woke?” I asked a few questions to find out. I wanted to know: Is Trump in the Epstein files?“There is no evidence in the recently reviewed and released government ‘Epstein Files’ of a ‘client list” or documentation placing Donald Trump as implicated in Jeffrey Epstein's criminal actions,” it said. “While Trump’s name, like many other prominent individuals, appears in public records of Epstein’s social and business contacts (such as guest lists or flight logs, widely reported over the years), there is no mention in current official documents or filings that directly implicates Trump as a criminal participant in Epstein’s sex trafficking activities.”
How does Truth Social’s search engine think the American economy is doing?
“The American economy is currently facing significant headwinds, with signs of slowdown—most notably by a contraction in GDP, rising inflation, and softening labor market conditions—though some leaders still emphasize areas of resilience,” Truth Search AI said.
Are the tariffs to blame?“Recent tariff increases in the United States have generally had a negative effect on economic growth and employment, raising costs for businesses and consumers while providing only limited benefits to some manufacturing sectors,” Truth Search AI said.
Damn. It’s woke as hell.
Big Tech Backed Trump for Acceleration. They Got a Decel President Instead
Effective accelerationists didn’t just accidentally shoot themselves in the foot. They methodically blew off each of their toes with a .50 caliber sniper rifle.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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X plans to show ads in Grok chatbot's answers
X plans to show ads in Grok chatbot's answers
Grok's responses to users on X could include paid advertisements in the future.Mariella Moon (Engadget)
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Tech giants turning blind eye to child sex abuse, Australian watchdog says
Tech giants turning blind eye to child sex abuse, Australian watchdog says
Commissioner’s recommendations for tech companies include measures that have been criticised on privacy grounds.John Power (Al Jazeera)
Google search boss says AI isn’t killing search clicks
Google search boss says AI isn’t killing search clicks
Liz Reid says Google’s data shows AI is generating consistent clicks and better experiences.Ryan Whitwam (Ars Technica)
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FEP-c313: Replies Addressed to Original Author’s Followers
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This is a discussion thread for the proposed FEP-c313: Replies Addressed to Original Author’s Followers. Please use this thread to discuss the proposed FEP and any potential problems or improvements that can be addressed.
Summary
This proposal introduces an ActivityPub extension to improve reply distribution. It allows a reply (comment) to be addressed directly to the original post author’s followers collection, so that followers of the original author can receive the reply. This behavior aligns with how networks like Diaspora and Friendica distribute comments, and aims to enhance conversation visibility across federated servers.
A new flag in NodeInfo metadata advertises support for this extension. Servers implementing this FEP can thus coordinate reply delivery: if both servers support it, a reply will be forwarded to the original author’s followers automatically; otherwise, the sender can fallback to standard distribution.
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Hi Dima, as I understand it, you can put OP's followers collection in the recipients list, and as per protocol the originating server should forward along the replies.
As per section 7.1.2, unless I misread?
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If Mastodon doesn't support forwarding delivery to local collections, then you're still facing an uphill battle getting Mastodon to support your FEP, no?
In which case wouldn't it be roughly equivalent to get Mastodon to support 7.1.2 of the AP spec?
Netanyahu's government unanimously votes to fire Attorney General who is prosecuting him for corruption
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Progress Report: Linux 6.16 - Asahi Linux
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Is libgen finally dead?
Ive been using one of the libgen.XX mirrors for a while. Its not working. Neither are the links on a site of all the mirrors.
Is torrent the only way to go now for books? Click to download was so easy.
Anna’s Archive: LibGen (Library Genesis), Sci-Hub, Z-Library in one place - Anna’s Archive
The world’s largest open-source open-data library. Mirrors Sci-Hub, Library Genesis, Z-Library, and more.annas-archive.org
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I know someone who pays and she's never had issues. I don't pay because I rarely need books and I can leave it to download slowly
What happens with the slow link? I had an issue with a textbook, which I fixed by choosing a different filename before downloading. idk what causes that
This gives a good guide on how mirrors on each service are
SLUM: The Shadow Library Uptime Monitor
This dashboard tracks the availability of popular shadow libraries in real time from a US-based server.[Click here to learn more](https://open-slum.org/staopen-slum.org
'Wipe' SSD before reinstalling Linux?
Are there any benefits, in terms of performance or security in 'wiping' or overwriting an SSD before reinstalling Linux? And if so, what is the best way of doing it?
I'm planning on doing a clean install of Debian 13 on my laptop soon.
I'm currently on Fedora and using encryption and will be using encryption on Debian too. I do not have a separate home partition.
Thanks 😀
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Security … Depends. If you want to sell the SSD, then yes, wiping the SSD is advised. You don’t need complicated random multiple-write patterns. Just make sure to wipe everything (keywords: wear-leveling, cache), you could use blkdiscard for that.
Performance-wise nothing noticeable would change. Physically, SSDs are fast enough to modify the charge traps to store the bits as needed to store files regardless of what’s in those traps ().
If you plan using the SSD for your own, you don’t need to wipe it, just repartition as needed and create the file systems in the partitions. What I do, is writing some data to the storage to destroy the partition table (dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/XYZ where XYZ is my target device – and then leave it runninf for a few seconds).
Since you’re using encryption, the common tools only see garbage and no data (i.e. file system). So simply don’t decrypt and work with the mapped partition but use the device directly.
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There's no performance improvement to wiping an SSD. At least not meaningfully, on a completely empty SSD that has been factory wiped. You may see a first time right improvement but that goes away as soon as the SSD starts doing garbage collection.
As for your other reasons, they're completely up to you.
Are there any benefits, in terms of performance or security in 'wiping' or overwriting an SSD before reinstalling Linux?
No
It’s sort-of true. Write cycles are limited.
However most modern-ish SSDs have a secure-erase command which would allow clearing without actually re-writing each sector from the OS level. It’s also much faster.
There are utilities to do this: hdparm and blkdiscard
That said, there’s little reason to do this.
Linux Secure Delete for SSDs
Solid State Drives (SSDs) have become the standard storage solution for modern computing due to their high performance, reliability, and energy efficiency.LinuxVox.com
In my experience it's also very very hard to wear out an SSD. It's limited, but mostly the limit is very very far away. I treat those warnings as largely fud. Most common failure more seems to be that the controller in the drive dies for some reason and the drive just goes completely dead and never gets detected again. There won't be warnings from any smart values either.
Or the drive is just replaced with a bigger faster one, maybe on a different bus/connector or something, and forgotten in a drawer or a box somewhere.
Naturally it's still worth trying to enable trim and limit writes if there's no downside. It can only help in case the drive does get an exceptionally long service life. But I'd say use it while it's still useful and keep fresh and verified backups.
Are there any benefits, in terms of performance or security in ‘wiping’ or overwriting an SSD before reinstalling Linux?
Yes, you remove the possibility of theoretically restoring the old data previously stored on the storage device.
And if so, what is the best way of doing it? I’m planning on doing a clean install of Debian 13
Select encrypted storage when partitioning, make sure you select the "Overwrite with random data" option.
I’m currently on Fedora and using encryption and will be using encryption on Debian too.
If it's a full disk encryption on both current and future setup, there's no benefit from overwriting.
Not really, unless it was previously used to store unencrypted data.
If you want to destroy old unencrypted data, the fastest way that uses the fewest P/E cycles is to run Secure Erase with hdparm. Many modern SSDs perform hardware encryption, whether you set a password or not. Secure Erase just wipes the encryption key and installs a fresh one. That's usually good enough for personal use, but it also depends on how well the manufacturer implemented hardware encryption, if at all.
If you want the data gone and don't trust the manufacturer, the Debian installer offers an option to overwrite free space when setting up partitions. Disclaimer that this would not touch the ~7% hardware-reserved spare blocks that may have been cycled in and out of service.
The following are anecdotal:
- Some SSDs might understand the idea of wiping with zeros and just throw out writes from
ddin conjunction withif=/dev/zero, resulting in an apparent, but insecure wipe - I run
wipefs -a /dev/yourDriveon fresh or reused drives to eliminate any potential issues with the remnants of an old partition table. This only erases partition tables, not data blocks. - A SSD in poor health started throwing errors about bad sectors and stalled the boot process. This was a test rig, so I didn't really care about data longevity. A full overwrite with
ddforced the SSD to retire the bad sectors and gave it a couple more years of useful life.
You only need to overwrite the drive with random data once. Then, as long as every OS install uses FDE, there's no need to repeat the process.
The reasons why you do the full disk wipe are:
- To hide the size of the encrypted data by making encrypted data indistinguishable from empty space
- To erase unencrypted data previously stored on the drive
Both of which only need to be dealt with once, so long as you don't write unencrypted data to the drive after doing the wipe.
Depends on how important it is to keep confidentiality.
Best way to secure already written unencrypted data is probably putting the device into a microwave, and then burning it.
For new data on Linux, LUKS encryption should probably be fine.
Maybe. Some people have used SpinRite 6.1 to rewrite every sector, and that’s improved performance on some SSD’s. It rewrites each sector and restores the cell’s charge. That’s great if you need the data on there now.
Now, if you’re erasing the disk (by any means, including just a quick format C:), any sectors you use will be written with new data, so that shouldn’t matter.
Just erase the disk (securely, if you want) and get going, and it should be fine.
AFAIK it's a bad idea to use dd or another wiping tool that just overwrites the logical partitions on flash based media, and is also not that effective for security. SSDs have wear leveling and what the computer sees does not map 1 to 1 to what's actually on the flash chips. They also have extra overprovisioned space inaccessible to your computer specifically for shuffling data around when wear leveling. So not only are you wasting write cycles, it's not guaranteed to actually overwrite all your data on the flash chips themselves.
If you want to wipe an SSD, use secure erase from a tool like nvme-cli which will directly tell the controller to erase all the data. How well the controller implements that is anyone's guess though.
I'd say if you're going to the effort of fully encrypting your new install, doing a secure erase will be in that spirit and won't hurt. There won't be any performance benefit but it will (probably) ensure that none of your previous unencrypted data is still there, though even if you don't do this, just writing to the drive in normal use will eventually fill up the free space and make it less and less likely that sensitive information is recoverable, but how long this happens depends on how you use the computer.
How to securely erase an NVMe SSD
It's generally accepted that SSDs cannot be securely wiped by writing patterns to the drive, due to features such as wear leveling and over-provisioning, and that the most secure way to wipe a mode...Super User
I have been using disktest to overwrite my SSD's.
I overwrite the SSD's before encryption. works just as well on HDD's too.
A 2TB HDD takes about 3.5 hours to overwrite with the encrypted seed
A 250GB SSD takes about 17 minutes to overwrite with the encrypted seed
install with cargo
cargo uninstall disktest
much faster than your usual suspects like dd.
it runs as root: so add this $PATH to the root .bashrc
export PATH=/root/.cargo/bin:$PATH
recent test run on 250Gb ssd with just write with no verify:
disktest --write -j0 /dev/nvme0n1
The generated --seed is:
omNw4JreY1ZVAfwD4dgooF061R10Ra0vnmYv5SrU
Use this seed for subsequent --verify.
Writing /dev/nvme0n1 (512 bytes sectors), starting at position 0 bytes...
[15:09 / 00h:00m:10s] Wrote 7.62 GiB (8.18 GB) @ 779.3 MiB/s ...
[15:26 / 00h:17m:16s] Done. Wrote 238.47 GiB (256.06 GB, 256059113472 bytes) @ 235.5 MiB/s.
Successfully dropped file caches.
Generated --seed omNw4JreY1ZVAfwD4dgooF061R10Ra0vnmYv5SrU
Success!
to check my SSD's I use:
prometheus-smartctl-exporter
sudo smartctl -i -a /dev/nvme0n1
GitHub - mbuesch/disktest: Solid State Disk (SSD), USB Stick, SD-Card, Hard Disk (HDD) tester
Solid State Disk (SSD), USB Stick, SD-Card, Hard Disk (HDD) tester - mbuesch/disktestGitHub
A UK Government Order Threatens the Privacy and Security of All Internet Users
A UK Government Order Threatens the Privacy and Security of All Internet Users - Internet Society
Earlier this year, the UK government ordered Apple to provide access to encrypted data in the company's cloud storage service, iCloud.John Perrino (Internet Society)
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Lifting Care: Patient Lift Pendant Market Outlook
"Market Trends Shaping Executive Summary Patient Lift Pendant Market Size and Share
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Segments
- By Product Type: The global patient lift pendant market can be segmented based on the types of patient lift pendants available in the market, including fixed patient lift pendant systems and portable patient lift pendant systems.
- By End-User: This market segment categorizes the customers of patient lift pendants, which primarily include hospitals, clinics, ambulatory surgical centers, and home healthcare settings.
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Market Players
- Invacare Corporation: Known for its range of patient lift solutions, Invacare Corporation is a key player in the global patient lift pendant market.
- Joerns Healthcare, LLC: With a focus on innovative patient handling solutions, Joerns Healthcare offers various patient lift pendant options that cater to diverse needs.
- Guldmann Inc.: Guldmann Inc. is recognized for its advanced patient lift systems, including pendants, designed to enhance patient transfer safety and efficiency.
- Prism Medical UK: Prism Medical UK provides a comprehensive range of patient lift pendant systems that meet the highest quality standards in the healthcare industry.
The global patient lift pendant market is witnessing significant growth, driven by the rising demand for advanced patient handling solutions in healthcare facilities worldwide. Factors such as an increasing number of patients requiring mobility assistance, a growing geriatric population, and a rise in disabilities due to chronic illnesses have propelled the adoption of patient lift pendants. The market segmentation based on product type allows healthcare providers to choose between fixed and portable systems based on their facility's specific requirements. The end-user segment highlights the diverse settings where patient lift pendants are utilized, emphasizing the versatility of these devices across various healthcare environments. Additionally, the distribution channel segment showcases the different pathways through which patient lift pendants reach end-users, ensuring efficient accessibility and availability of these critical healthcare devices.
As key market players in the global patient lift pendant market, companies like Invacare Corporation, Joerns Healthcare, LLC, Guldmann Inc., and Prism Medical UK are driving innovation and product development to meet the evolving needs of healthcare providers and patients. These industry leaders offer a wide range of patient lift pendant systems, ensuring quality, reliability, and user-friendly features that enhance patient transfer safety and comfort. With a focus on technological advancements and ergonomic design, these market players continue to shape the landscape of patient lift solutions, contributing to the overall growth and development of the global patient lift pendant market.
The global patient lift pendant market is poised for robust growth in the coming years due to several key factors driving demand and innovation in the industry. One significant trend that is likely to impact the market is the increasing focus on patient safety and comfort during transfers within healthcare facilities. Patient lift pendants play a crucial role in ensuring smooth and efficient transfers for patients with limited mobility, reducing the risk of injuries for both patients and healthcare providers. As healthcare providers strive to prioritize patient care quality and safety, the demand for advanced patient lift pendant systems with enhanced features and functionalities is expected to surge.
Moreover, the continuous advancements in technology are also shaping the landscape of the patient lift pendant market. Industry players are investing in research and development activities to introduce cutting-edge solutions that offer improved performance, efficiency, and ease of use. Technological innovations such as smart monitoring systems, automated lifting mechanisms, and ergonomic designs are enhancing the functionality and user experience of patient lift pendants, paving the way for greater adoption across healthcare settings. These innovations are not only enhancing the operational efficiency of healthcare facilities but also contributing to better patient outcomes and satisfaction.
Furthermore, the growing awareness regarding the importance of patient handling and the need for ergonomic solutions is driving the adoption of patient lift pendants in healthcare facilities globally. Healthcare providers are increasingly recognizing the role of patient lift systems in reducing the risk of musculoskeletal injuries among healthcare personnel, thereby promoting a safer working environment. As regulatory bodies continue to emphasize the implementation of safe patient handling practices, the demand for patient lift pendant systems that comply with safety standards and guidelines is anticipated to escalate.
Additionally, the expanding geriatric population worldwide is expected to significantly impact the patient lift pendant market. With a rising number of elderly individuals requiring assistance with mobility and transfers, healthcare facilities are under pressure to invest in efficient patient lift solutions to cater to the needs of this demographic segment. The compatibility of patient lift pendants with diverse care settings, including hospitals, clinics, ambulatory surgical centers, and home healthcare environments, makes them a versatile and essential asset for managing the care of elderly patients and individuals with disabilities.
In conclusion, the global patient lift pendant market is poised for substantial growth fueled by factors such as the increasing emphasis on patient safety, technological advancements, ergonomic design trends, regulatory requirements, and demographic shifts. Market players are focusing on innovation and product development to meet the evolving demands of healthcare providers and enhance patient care outcomes. With a growing recognition of the benefits of patient lift pendants in improving operational efficiency and patient comfort, the market is expected to witness continued expansion in the forecast period.The global patient lift pendant market is experiencing significant growth due to various factors influencing the demand and adoption of patient lift solutions. One key driver of market growth is the increasing emphasis on patient safety and comfort during transfers within healthcare facilities. Patient lift pendants play a crucial role in facilitating smooth and efficient transfers for patients with limited mobility, thereby reducing the risk of injuries for both patients and healthcare providers. As healthcare institutions prioritize enhancing patient care quality and safety, the demand for advanced patient lift pendant systems with improved features and functionalities is expected to rise steadily.
Technological advancements are also playing a crucial role in shaping the patient lift pendant market landscape. Market players are investing in research and development to introduce cutting-edge solutions that offer enhanced performance, efficiency, and user-friendliness. Innovations such as smart monitoring systems, automated lifting mechanisms, and ergonomic designs are revolutionizing the functionality and user experience of patient lift pendants, leading to increased adoption across diverse healthcare settings. These technological advancements not only improve operational efficiency in healthcare facilities but also contribute to better patient outcomes and satisfaction.
Furthermore, the growing awareness regarding patient handling practices and the importance of ergonomic solutions is driving the adoption of patient lift pendants in healthcare facilities globally. With healthcare providers recognizing the role of patient lift systems in reducing musculoskeletal injuries among healthcare staff, the demand for patient lift pendant systems that adhere to safety standards and guidelines is anticipated to soar. Regulatory bodies' emphasis on safe patient handling practices is further propelling the need for compliant patient lift solutions, driving market growth.
The expanding geriatric population globally is also expected to have a significant impact on the patient lift pendant market. With an increasing number of elderly individuals requiring assistance with mobility and transfers, healthcare facilities are under pressure to invest in efficient patient lift solutions to cater to this demographic segment's needs. The versatility of patient lift pendants in various care settings makes them a vital asset for managing the care of elderly patients and individuals with disabilities effectively. As the demographic shifts towards an aging population, the demand for patient lift pendants is projected to escalate, further boosting market growth in the forecast period.
In conclusion, the global patient lift pendant market is set for substantial expansion driven by factors such as the focus on patient safety, technological innovations, ergonomic design trends, regulatory requirements, and demographic shifts. Market players are actively innovating and developing new products to meet the evolving demands of healthcare providers and enhance patient care outcomes. With a growing recognition of the benefits of patient lift pendants in improving operational efficiency and patient comfort, the market is expected to witness continuous growth and development in the foreseeable future.
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Strength Reimagined: Rigid Exoskeleton Market Advancements
"Global Demand Outlook for Executive Summary Rigid Exoskeleton Market Size and Share
CAGR Value
Global rigid exoskeleton market was valued at USD 13,289.20 million in 2021 and is expected to reach USD 220928.36 million by 2029, registering a CAGR of 42.10% during the forecast period of 2022-2029.
This Rigid Exoskeleton Market report includes a wide-ranging evaluation of the market’s growth prospects and restrictions. The Rigid Exoskeleton Market report provides estimations about the growth rate and the market value in Rigid Exoskeleton Market industry based on market dynamics and growth inducing factors. Global Rigid Exoskeleton Market report studies the industry abilities for each geographical region based on the customer purchasing patterns, macroeconomic parameters, development rate, and market demand and supply states. In addition, this Rigid Exoskeleton Market report also endows with top to bottom estimation of the market with respect to income and developing business sector.
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Segments
- By Type (Full Body Exoskeleton, Upper Body Exoskeleton, Lower Body Exoskeleton)
- By End-User (Healthcare, Industrial, Military, Others)
- By Material (Carbon Fiber, Aluminum, Steel, Others)
- By Geography (North America, Europe, Asia-Pacific, South America, Middle East and Africa)
The global rigid exoskeleton market is segmented based on type, end-user, material, and geography. In terms of type, the market is categorized into full body exoskeleton, upper body exoskeleton, and lower body exoskeleton. The full body exoskeleton segment is expected to witness significant growth due to its applications across various industries such as healthcare, military, and industrial sectors. By end-user, the market is divided into healthcare, industrial, military, and others. The healthcare segment is anticipated to hold a substantial market share as exoskeletons are increasingly being adopted for rehabilitation purposes. Based on material, the market is segmented into carbon fiber, aluminum, steel, and others. The carbon fiber segment is projected to dominate the market owing to its lightweight and high strength properties. Geographically, the market is analyzed across North America, Europe, Asia-Pacific, South America, and the Middle East and Africa.
Market Players
- Ekso Bionics
- ReWalk Robotics
- Lockheed Martin Corporation
- Sarcos Corp
- ATOUN
- MYOMO
- Hocoma
- Bionik Laboratories
- Gogoa Mobility Robots SL
- ExoAtlet
The global rigid exoskeleton market is highly competitive with the presence of several key players striving to gain a competitive edge through strategies such as product launches, partnerships, and acquisitions. Ekso Bionics, a leading player in the market, offers advanced exoskeleton solutions for medical and industrial applications. ReWalk Robotics is another prominent player known for its innovative robotic exoskeleton technology catering to individuals with mobility impairments. Lockheed Martin Corporation focuses on developing exoskeleton systems for military and industrial purposes, enhancing human performance and safety. Sarcos Corp specializes in creating robotic exoskeletons for enhancing workforce productivity in industrial settings. Other key players in the market include ATOUN, MYOMO, Hocoma, Bionik Laboratories, Gogoa Mobility Robots SL, and ExoAtlet, contributing to the growth of the global rigid exoskeleton market through their technological advancements and product offerings.
The global rigid exoskeleton market is experiencing an upward trajectory driven by technological advancements and the growing adoption of exoskeletons across diverse industries. One emerging trend in the market is the increasing application of full body exoskeletons, especially in healthcare, military, and industrial sectors. These exoskeletons offer enhanced support and assistance to users, leading to improved efficiency and reduced physical strain. Moreover, the healthcare segment is witnessing significant growth attributed to the rising demand for rehabilitation solutions and mobility assistance devices. As the aging population increases globally, the need for advanced healthcare technologies like exoskeletons is expected to surge, further boosting market growth.
In terms of materials used in rigid exoskeletons, carbon fiber is gaining prominence due to its lightweight nature and high strength properties. Carbon fiber exoskeletons provide durability and flexibility, making them ideal for various applications. The use of carbon fiber materials also contributes to the overall performance and functionality of exoskeletons, thereby driving demand in the market. Additionally, advancements in materials science and engineering are likely to lead to the development of more innovative and efficient exoskeleton designs in the future, further propelling market growth.
Geographically, North America holds a significant share in the global rigid exoskeleton market, driven by the presence of key players, technological advancements, and a strong focus on research and development. The region boasts a robust healthcare system and a high adoption rate of advanced technologies, contributing to the growth of the exoskeleton market. Europe is also a major market for rigid exoskeletons, with countries like Germany and the UK leading in technological innovations and healthcare infrastructure. Asia-Pacific is emerging as a lucrative market for exoskeletons, fueled by increasing investments in research and development, a growing industrial sector, and a rising aging population. South America and the Middle East and Africa regions are also witnessing a surge in demand for exoskeletons, driven by expanding industrial applications and government initiatives promoting technological advancements.
Overall, the global rigid exoskeleton market is poised for substantial growth in the coming years, with key players focusing on innovation, strategic partnerships, and expanding their product portfolios to meet the evolving needs of end-users. The market landscape is dynamic and competitive, with opportunities for growth across different segments and regions. As technological advancements continue to drive the development of advanced exoskeleton solutions, the market is expected to witness further expansion and adoption across diverse industries, shaping the future of mobility assistance and human augmentation technologies.The global rigid exoskeleton market is witnessing significant growth propelled by technological advancements and increasing adoption across various industries. Full body exoskeletons are gaining traction, particularly in healthcare, military, and industrial sectors, offering enhanced support and efficiency to users. The healthcare segment, in particular, is experiencing substantial growth due to the rising demand for rehabilitation solutions and mobility assistance devices, driven by the aging population globally. This trend is expected to boost market growth as the need for advanced healthcare technologies like exoskeletons continues to rise.
In terms of materials used in rigid exoskeletons, carbon fiber is emerging as a dominant choice due to its lightweight, durable, and flexible properties. Carbon fiber exoskeletons provide high strength and flexibility, contributing to improved performance and functionality. The increasing focus on materials science and engineering is anticipated to lead to the development of more innovative and efficient exoskeleton designs, further driving market demand. The utilization of advanced materials is poised to shape the future of rigid exoskeletons by enhancing their capabilities and usability across different applications.
Geographically, North America holds a significant market share in the global rigid exoskeleton market, supported by key players, technological advancements, and a robust healthcare infrastructure. Europe also plays a crucial role in the market, particularly in countries like Germany and the UK, known for their technological innovations. The Asia-Pacific region is emerging as a promising market for exoskeletons, driven by investments in research and development, a growing industrial sector, and an increasing aging population. South America and the Middle East and Africa regions are witnessing a rising demand for exoskeletons, driven by government initiatives promoting technological advancements and expanding industrial applications.
Overall, the global rigid exoskeleton market is on a trajectory for substantial growth in the coming years. Key players are focusing on innovation, strategic partnerships, and expanding their product portfolios to cater to evolving end-user needs. The competitive landscape of the market presents opportunities for growth across different segments and regions. With continuous technological advancements shaping the development of advanced exoskeleton solutions, the market is expected to witness further expansion and adoption across diverse industries, revolutionizing mobility assistance and human augmentation technologies.
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Relief & Recovery: Navigating the Pressure Ulcer Treatment Market
"Regional Overview of Executive Summary Pressure Ulcer Treatment Market by Size and Share
CAGR Value
The global pressure ulcer treatment market size was valued at USD 9.65 billion in 2024 and is expected to reach USD 15.73 billion by 2032, at a CAGR of 6.30% during the forecast period
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Segments
- By Type (Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4, Unstageable)
- By Treatment (Wound Care Dressing, Wound Care Devices, Wound Care Biologics)
Pressure ulcers, also known as bedsores, are a prevalent issue in healthcare, especially among elderly and bedridden patients. The global pressure ulcer treatment market is segmented based on type and treatment. In terms of type, the market is categorized into Stage 1, Stage 2, Stage 3, Stage 4, and Unstageable ulcers. Each stage represents the severity of the pressure ulcer, with Stage 4 being the most severe. The market is also segmented by treatment, including wound care dressing, wound care devices, and wound care biologics. Wound care dressing includes products such as hydrocolloid dressings, foam dressings, alginate dressings, and film dressings, among others. Wound care devices comprise negative pressure wound therapy devices, hyperbaric oxygen therapy devices, and electrical stimulation devices. Wound care biologics involve the use of biological materials such as growth factors, stem cells, and skin substitutes for treating pressure ulcers.
Market Players
- Smith & Nephew
- Mölnlycke Health Care
- 3M
- Ethicon
- B. Braun Melsungen AG
- Coloplast Corp
- ConvaTec Inc.
- PAUL HARTMANN AG
- Gentell Inc.
- Cardinal Health
Some of the key players in the global pressure ulcer treatment market include Smith & Nephew, Mölnlycke Health Care, 3M, Ethicon, B. Braun Melsungen AG, Coloplast Corp, ConvaTec Inc., PAUL HARTMANN AG, Gentell Inc., and Cardinal Health. These companies are actively involved in the development and distribution of innovative products for pressure ulcer treatment. They focus on research and development activities to introduce advanced wound care solutions to meet the evolving needs of patients and healthcare providers. Collaborations, partnerships, and acquisitions are common strategies adopted by market players to expand their product portfolio and geographical presence in the pressure ulcer treatment market.
The global pressure ulcer treatment market is witnessing significant growth due to the rising prevalence of pressure ulcers worldwide, particularly among the aging population and individuals with limited mobility. As healthcare systems strive to enhance patient outcomes and reduce healthcare costs associated with pressure ulcers, the demand for advanced wound care solutions continues to increase. Market players are focusing on developing innovative products to address the diverse needs of patients with different stages of pressure ulcers. By offering a wide range of treatment options, including wound care dressing, devices, and biologics, companies are catering to the specific requirements of healthcare providers and patients.
Innovations in wound care dressing have led to the development of advanced materials that promote healing and provide optimal wound management. Hydrocolloid dressings, foam dressings, alginate dressings, and film dressings are some of the products that offer benefits such as moisture management, infection control, and ease of application. These dressings play a crucial role in wound healing by creating a conducive environment for tissue regeneration and preventing complications associated with pressure ulcers. Additionally, wound care devices such as negative pressure wound therapy devices and hyperbaric oxygen therapy devices are gaining traction in the market due to their ability to accelerate wound healing and improve patient outcomes.
Moreover, the use of wound care biologics in pressure ulcer treatment represents a promising avenue for industry players. Biological materials such as growth factors, stem cells, and skin substitutes have shown potential in enhancing tissue repair and regeneration in chronic wounds. The utilization of advanced biologics underscores the shift towards personalized and regenerative medicine approaches in wound care. By harnessing the therapeutic properties of biological agents, healthcare providers can offer innovative treatment options that address the underlying causes of pressure ulcers and promote faster recovery.
Furthermore, market players are investing in research and development initiatives to introduce novel therapies and technologies that can revolutionize pressure ulcer treatment. Collaborations with research institutions, healthcare organizations, and regulatory bodies enable companies to leverage collective expertise and resources for product development and clinical validation. Market consolidation through partnerships and acquisitions allows companies to strengthen their market presence and expand their reach to new geographies. Overall, the global pressure ulcer treatment market is poised for growth as stakeholders continue to prioritize patient-centric care and invest in transformative solutions for pressure ulcer management.The global pressure ulcer treatment market is expected to witness substantial growth in the coming years due to the increasing prevalence of pressure ulcers, particularly among elderly individuals and those with limited mobility. The market segmentation based on the type of ulcers allows for a more targeted approach to treatment, with varying degrees of severity requiring specific interventions. The availability of different treatment options such as wound care dressing, devices, and biologics offers healthcare providers a diverse toolkit to address the unique needs of patients at different stages of pressure ulcers.
Key market players such as Smith & Nephew, Mölnlycke Health Care, and 3M are actively engaged in research and development activities to drive innovation in pressure ulcer treatment. These companies are continuously striving to introduce advanced products that can improve patient outcomes and reduce healthcare costs associated with pressure ulcer management. Collaborations and partnerships within the industry enable these players to leverage each other's expertise and resources, leading to the development of more effective solutions for pressure ulcer treatment.
The advancements in wound care dressing materials have significantly contributed to enhancing wound healing and tissue regeneration in patients with pressure ulcers. The adoption of materials with properties like moisture management and infection control has revolutionized wound care practices, allowing for better wound management and prevention of complications. Furthermore, the incorporation of wound care devices such as negative pressure wound therapy devices and hyperbaric oxygen therapy devices has shown promising results in expediting wound healing and improving overall patient care outcomes.
The utilization of wound care biologics, including growth factors, stem cells, and skin substitutes, represents a novel approach to pressure ulcer treatment. These biological materials have demonstrated the potential to accelerate tissue repair and regeneration, offering a personalized and regenerative medicine approach to wound care. By harnessing the therapeutic properties of biologics, healthcare providers can provide patients with innovative treatment options that target the underlying causes of pressure ulcers, leading to faster recovery and improved quality of life.
In conclusion, the global pressure ulcer treatment market is poised for significant expansion as advancements in technology and treatment modalities continue to drive innovation in the field. Market players are expected to focus on developing cutting-edge products, forging strategic partnerships, and expanding their geographical presence to meet the growing demand for effective pressure ulcer management solutions. The emphasis on patient-centric care and the development of transformative therapies will shape the future landscape of the pressure ulcer treatment market.
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Precision in Focus: North America Clinical Microscopes Market
"Regional Overview of Executive Summary North America Clinical Microscopes Market by Size and Share
CAGR Value
The clinical microscopes market is expected to gain market growth in the forecast period of 2021 to 2028. Data Bridge Market Research analyses that the market is growing with a CAGR of 6.4% in the forecast period of 2021 to 2028 and is expected to reach USD 1,329.59 million by 2028.
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North America Clinical Microscopes Market Introduction
Segments:
- By Type: Optical Microscopes, Electron Microscopes, Scanning Probe Microscopes, Others
- By Application: Hospitals, Pharmaceutical Companies, Research Institutes, Diagnostic Labs
- By End User: Clinicians, Pathologists, Researchers
The is segmented based on type, application, and end user. In terms of type, the market is categorized into optical microscopes, electron microscopes, scanning probe microscopes, and others. Optical microscopes are the most commonly used in clinical settings due to their versatility and cost-effectiveness. Electron microscopes are gaining popularity for their high-resolution imaging capabilities. Scanning probe microscopes are utilized for studying surface properties at the nanoscale level. In relation to application, clinical microscopes find usage in hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, research institutes, and diagnostic labs. Hospitals are the major end users of clinical microscopes for patient diagnosis and treatment monitoring. Pharmaceutical companies rely on microscopes for drug development and quality control processes. Research institutes utilize advanced microscopes for various scientific studies. Diagnostic labs depend on microscopes for accurate disease diagnosis. Furthermore, the end users of clinical microscopes include clinicians, pathologists, and researchers, each utilizing these devices according to their specific requirements.
Market Players:
- Nikon Corporation
- Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc.
- Leica Microsystems
- Olympus Corporation
- Hitachi High-Tech Corporation
- Bruker
- JEOL Ltd.
- Meiji Techno
- Agilent Technologies, Inc.
- ACCU-SCOPE Inc.
The is highly competitive with the presence of several key players. Companies such as Nikon Corporation, Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc., Leica Microsystems, Olympus Corporation, and Hitachi High-Tech Corporation are prominent players in the market. These companies focus on product innovation, strategic collaborations, and mergers and acquisitions to maintain their market position. Bruker, JEOL Ltd., Meiji Techno, Agilent Technologies, Inc., and ACCU-SCOPE Inc. are also significant players contributing to the market growth. These companies offer a wide range of clinical microscopes catering to the diverse needs of end users across North America.
The is witnessing significant growth driven by factors such as increasing demand for advanced imaging technologies in healthcare settings, rising prevalence of chronic diseases requiring precise diagnosis and treatment monitoring, and ongoing technological advancements in microscopy devices. Optical microscopes continue to dominate the market due to their widespread application in clinical diagnostics, research, and educational purposes. Electron microscopes are seeing heightened adoption for their ability to produce high-resolution images essential for detailed cellular and molecular analysis. The growing trend of personalized medicine and targeted therapies is fueling the demand for advanced microscopes in pharmaceutical companies for drug discovery and development processes, contributing to market expansion.
Hospitals remain the primary users of clinical microscopes, utilizing these devices for various diagnostic procedures, surgical interventions, and patient care management. Moreover, research institutes play a crucial role in driving market growth by leveraging cutting-edge microscopy technologies for scientific exploration, innovation, and breakthrough discoveries in healthcare and life sciences. Diagnostic labs rely on clinical microscopes for accurate disease diagnosis, treatment efficacy assessment, and pathological examinations, highlighting the indispensable role of microscopy in healthcare infrastructure and disease management strategies.
Key players in the , such as Nikon Corporation, Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc., and Leica Microsystems, are continuously investing in research and development activities to introduce innovative microscope models with enhanced features like advanced imaging capabilities, ergonomic designs, connectivity options, and user-friendly interfaces. Strategic partnerships, collaborations with healthcare institutions, and academic research centers are further bolstering the market presence of these companies and expanding their customer base across diverse end-user segments. The competitive landscape is characterized by intense competition, and companies are focusing on differentiation strategies to gain a competitive edge in terms of product offerings, pricing, and service quality.
As the demand for precision medicine, molecular diagnostics, and personalized healthcare solutions continues to rise in North America, the clinical microscopes market is poised for steady growth in the coming years. Technological advancements in microscopy, including the integration of artificial intelligence, digital imaging, and automated analysis tools, are anticipated to revolutionize the way healthcare professionals leverage microscopy for diagnosis, treatment planning, and therapeutic interventions. The convergence of microscopy with other imaging modalities and molecular biology techniques is opening up new avenues for interdisciplinary research, clinical applications, and medical breakthroughs, positioning clinical microscopes as indispensable tools in the evolving landscape of modern healthcare delivery.The is witnessing a robust growth trajectory driven by various key factors that are shaping the industry landscape. One of the primary drivers of market expansion is the increasing demand for advanced imaging technologies in healthcare settings. With the rising prevalence of chronic diseases that require precise diagnosis and treatment monitoring, there has been a heightened need for advanced microscopy devices that can provide accurate and detailed imaging capabilities. This demand is further fueled by ongoing technological advancements in microscopy devices, which are continuously improving the imaging quality, resolution, and functionalities of clinical microscopes.
Moreover, the market is experiencing a shift towards personalized medicine and targeted therapies, which is driving the adoption of advanced microscopes in pharmaceutical companies. These companies rely on cutting-edge microscopy technologies for drug discovery, development, and quality control processes, thus contributing significantly to the market growth. Additionally, the trend towards personalized healthcare solutions is driving the need for more advanced and precise imaging tools in clinical diagnostics, research, and patient care management.
Hospitals remain at the forefront of clinical microscope usage, employing these devices for a wide range of diagnostic procedures, surgical interventions, and patient care monitoring. Research institutes also play a crucial role in driving market growth by leveraging advanced microscopy technologies for scientific exploration, innovation, and breakthrough discoveries in the healthcare and life sciences sectors. The indispensable role of clinical microscopes in diagnostic labs for accurate disease diagnosis, treatment efficacy assessment, and pathological examinations further underscores the significance of these devices in modern healthcare infrastructure.
Key market players such as Nikon Corporation, Thermo Fisher Scientific Inc., and Leica Microsystems are actively investing in research and development activities to introduce innovative microscope models that offer enhanced features and functionalities. These companies are also engaging in strategic partnerships and collaborations with healthcare institutions and academic research centers to expand their market presence and cater to diverse end-user needs effectively. The competitive landscape of the is characterized by intense competition, prompting companies to differentiate themselves through product innovation, pricing strategies, and service quality to gain a competitive edge in the market.
In conclusion, the clinical microscopes market in North America is poised for continued growth in the coming years as technological advancements, increasing demand for advanced imaging solutions, and the adoption of personalized healthcare continue to drive market expansion. The integration of artificial intelligence, digital imaging, and automated analysis tools in microscopy is expected to revolutionize healthcare practices, offering new possibilities for diagnosis, treatment planning, and medical interventions. The market's evolution towards interdisciplinary research and collaborative efforts between different sectors is creating new avenues for innovation and growth, positioning clinical microscopes as vital tools in the modern healthcare landscape.
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Cool at the Edge: Europe’s Cooling System for Edge Computing Market
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- By Component: The Europe cooling system for edge computing market can be segmented by component into solution and services. The solution segment includes air conditioners, chillers, cooling towers, economizers, and others. The services segment comprises installation, maintenance, and consulting services.
- By Cooling Type: Based on cooling type, the market can be categorized into air-based cooling and liquid-based cooling. Air-based cooling systems are more commonly used due to their cost-effectiveness and ease of maintenance. Liquid-based cooling systems, on the other hand, are known for their higher efficiency in dissipating heat.
- By Application: In terms of application, the Europe cooling system for edge computing market can be divided into small data centers, medium data centers, and large data centers. Small data centers are witnessing significant growth due to the rising demand for edge computing solutions across various industries.
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- Vertiv Group Corp.: Vertiv Group Corp. is a key player in the Europe cooling system for edge computing market, offering a comprehensive range of cooling solutions tailored for edge computing environments.
- Schneider Electric: Schneider Electric provides innovative cooling systems designed to optimize the performance of edge computing infrastructure while reducing energy consumption.
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- Rittal GmbH & Co. KG: Rittal GmbH & Co. KG offers a diverse portfolio of cooling products and services, catering to the specific requirements of edge computing deployments.
- Airedale International Air Conditioning Ltd.: Airedale International Air Conditioning Ltd. is a leading provider of cooling solutions for edge computing applications, delivering cutting-edge technologies to enhance data center performance and reliability.
The Europe cooling system for edge computing market is experiencing a paradigm shift driven by the increasing adoption of edge computing solutions across various industries. With the rapid proliferation of Internet of Things (IoT) devices and the surge in data generation, the demand for efficient cooling systems in edge data centers is on the rise. As businesses strive to enhance their digital infrastructure and ensure optimal performance of edge computing environments, the need for advanced cooling solutions becomes paramount. Market players are focusing on developing innovative technologies to address the evolving requirements of edge computing applications, emphasizing energy efficiency, reliability, and scalability.
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Windows Linux Dual boot
Hello there,
I have a question. If I'm doing windows linux dual boot, is there any possibiliy that windows can spy my data on linux? Or: if i got ransomwared on windows, is my linux part of my pc safe or not?
How can I prevent all above?
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I don't think Windows will spy on Linux, but you never know, as we don't have the source code of Windows to look it up.
If you get ransomed, they can lock the whole ssd, even if your Linux partition might be encrypted already. And even if you have Linux on a separate ssd.
To prevent all that, practice good use of Windows without going to questionable websites or downloading apps from random places. But the best would be to either have a different PC for Linux. You can buy a small factor PC for $99 these days, brand new. Or, each time before you boot into windows, you disable on the BIOS the SSD with Linux in it. This way, no Windows malware can "see" that there's another SSD there, so they won't be able to lock it. Unless of course they lock your BIOS too...
Other systems should not be able to see your data on a Linux install as long as the disk is encrypted, which is proposed during the install of many distros.
AFAIU, ransomware will try to lock all devices, USB drives, etc, so no, your Linux install is not safe from that if it is on the same machine. Even machine on the same network might be at risk.
How to prevent ? Backup! Loosing your entire machine data should not be an issue but just a matter of re-installing the OS and recovering your data from a backup. Have at least two backup, including one outside of your house.
About dualbooting though... Putting Windows + anything else on a single drive is a really bad idea and Windows WILL try and take over it, at least breaking the boot partition. More concerning, and it actually happened to me recently: when putting a Linux on one disk and Windows on an other in the same machine, the Windows somehow still managed to break the Linux boot partition...
So if you can afford it and really want to have both OS, you should try and have two machines or at least install Linux on a drive that you can easily unplug.
I hope this will be helpful, good luck!
I had a dualboot on my last laptop for a long time and seems they've toned the overwriting of the bootloader way down since the invention of EFI. For the last 8 years or so it occasionally changes the boot order to default to Windows, every time these larger updates come in. But it doesn't seem to overwrite anything any more.
Other than that, I'd also recommend Backups. Windows doesn't come with drivers for these filesystems, so it can't read Linux files. But theoretically things could happen to the data on a harddisk nonetheless.
I work with a Grub boot for Win11 / Debian on the same disk (work provided laptop without the persuasion to change my employer MS-First policy) but one of the lucky ones I guess.
No problem for 2 years now.
Only thing after a big Windows update it forgets its TPM Bitlocker key for its own partition. Must type it like once in 2 months manually.
If you install Linux first, Windows will see a grub partition on install and go "Oh, let me use this too" disregarding it's for an entirely different OS. Then when grub is updated by Windows it goes "What's all this crap, nah, we don't need any of this" and then your Linux distro can't be booted.
I've dual booted for years, never had an issue because I installed Windows first.
i wouldn't bother though, windows itself doesn't mount non-ntfs partitions (again, unless we're being paranoid and assume that they do, since it is relatively easily done, it's open source, technically they could be able to do it)
also people in this thread are not doing dual booting right, i have multiple pcs with windows and various linuxes, the latest machine has two distros as well, and i never had an issue, in many years (the oldest is an athlon x2 with windows 7 and mint 22.1)
i think the key to my success is that i install them on separate drives, so windows has its own boot sector and everything, and then the linux bootloaders find it and do their own thing
Is it likely? No. Is it possible? Yes.
If you want to make absolutely sure that Windows can't spy on anything, you'll need to physically remove the storage device containing Linux when booting.
A more practical but slightly less secure approach is to enable full disk encryption on Linux. Then, if Windows does decide to get sneaky it'll only see random data.
This doesn't prevent hostile code such as ransomware from destroying the data though. For that, you need to have good backup hygene.
A good backup system is to have automatic daily backups to some online cloud storage provider, and weekly or monthly backups to a physical device you keep disconnected and safe.
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Windows cannot access EXT4 or BTRFS by default. Also in Linux you can use LUKS to have your partition encrypted, and Windows even with a ext4/btrfs driver will not be able to read your data.
Of course Windows, if infected, could wipe your partition table or things like this.
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Just got on first private tracker, want to start a seed
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I haven't uploaded a new file to TL before but on other private trackers it was fairly straight forward. I just created the torrent in QBit, filled out their upload form making sure to follow the rules as far as naming conventions, listing metadata for the file(s), including screenshots, and copying and pasting a plot summary from somewhere like IMDB, before finally completing it all and uploading my torrent to the site for mod approval. I'm away from my PC right now so I can't check but I'm sure they have their upload requirements listed in the FAQ or Rules page.
Another great way to build ratio there is to filter by torrents listed in the last couple of hours and grab them (especially freeleech) even if you have zero interest in watching the content and seeding it for as long as possible. The mods there recommended this to me back when I first signed up and got banned because I hadn't uploaded or downloaded anything within the first week or two of signing up.
You probably have to wait a while to become an uploader.
An easy way to get lots of free upload is to download framestor remux files. If it’s marked “freeleech”, it won’t cost you to download but you’ll get all the upload credit.
Okay I will start like that. I read the FAQ and it looks like I won't qualify as an uploader as I'm just short of the upload speeds they need and won't likely be able to upload many things a month.
Side question, are you constantly managing your ratio or do you think that if I run all my sonarr stuff through the the private tracker and just leave stuff to seed indefinitely that I will be okay?
I just signed up to TL as well. I just grabbed a couple of the latest uploads (top of the browse section) that was freeleech (so download doesn't count it seems) and they finished quickly and I've already seeded a few GB which is showing up on my upload total now. Both were 15 and 30GB so they weren't small, but since they were posted within the past hour ish, there are still plenty of leechers to seed to.
I'll probably do this for a bit on any new freeleech uploads to accumulate some credit. If I'm understanding the rules correctly, even if you grab a non freeleech and have trouble seeding above 1.0, you'll still be forgiven for that torrent if you let it run long enough to meet the time requirement. So it seems hard to really mess up.
If you want more advance, Then get content freelech first on torrentleech IRC channel, as new releases are announced there before they appear on the site. Using autobrr is best for that
github.com/autobrr/autobrr
Here is torrenteech guide to download freeleech using autobrr
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Be aware that many users have seedboxes on torrentleech, so you will be competing with them. Without a seedbox, you will have a hard time uploading (seeding). This should not be problem if you permaseed your torrents, as you will earn points that can be exchanged for upload credit.
GitHub - autobrr/autobrr: Modern, easy to use download automation for torrents and usenet.
Modern, easy to use download automation for torrents and usenet. - autobrr/autobrrGitHub
If you already have that same exact torrent, and I don't mean It's the 1999 matrix but the exact distro bit for bit for bit file they have, You can start downloading that torrent from them, let it make the structure on your file system, stop your torrent client. Replace the contents of the file in that structure with your already completed stuff, start the torrent client and do a force recheck.
If the file you put there is 100% binary exact for what it's expecting you will start seeding right off the bat
Welcome to the private tracker community! It is a lovely place to be.
I personally am not a member of torrentleech but here is some advice to get you started!
1. Make use of the bonus points system
Typically most private trackers have some sort of economy in which permaseeding is rewarded with points. These points can then be used to buy upload credit to improve your ratio.
2. Download freeleech content
Often they also have freeleech content that does not count towards you download (thus preserving your ratio). Most trackers require you maintain a certain ratio. At first you can just manually search or download new freeleech content. Eventually, you may want to set up autobrr to automatically download new freeleech torrents. Other users have provided helpful links to get you started. Keep in mind as you explore other trackers some do not allow autobrr to be used.
3. Get connectable
The need for a VPN is not always as crucial as it is for public torrents. That being said, sometimes it is difficult to get connectable (forward ports) on your home network. Thus some users use a VPN such as AirVPN that allow port forwarding. You don't need to be connectable to seed, however you are unable to seed to other non-connectable users (thus decreasing your upload potential).
4. Avoid the forums and chat
This advice is often over said and most of the time the forums and chat are pretty decent. It comes from the odd power hungry moderator getting a bit too ban happy. However, what I will say is avoiding the chat and forums is not a terrible idea if you are not too familiar with the sites rules. Sometimes they are very specific and can get you if your not paying attention.
5. Upload content once you are familiar with the site
Once you feel comfortable with the above, uploading can really help your ratio. Make sure you follow all the rules of torrentleech if you are going to upload. Often private trackers have very strict and stringent rules. This is why I generally don't recommend uploading if you're new to the whole torrents scene.
Typically, the uploading process goes something like this. Create the .torrent file using qbittorrent or something similar. Make sure you mark the torrent as private in the creation tool and include your unique tracker url (you get this from the private tracker). Upload the .torrent file and actual file to your seedbox (or if you're just seeding from the computer begin seeding once you create the torrent). Sometimes you need to do a force recheck to get it seeding. Then you upload the torrent to the private tracker and add relevant metadata. Force re-announce the torrent on qbittorrent and it usually shows up. You will need to be connectable to upload.
You've already gotten a lot of really good advice, but I'll add what I did on TL to get >10 ratio in about a year, without really limiting what I download.
For movies, I focused on finding files >14 GB so they are freelech. For movies I really wanted in super high quality to enjoy, I chose torrents with fewer seeds. This both boosts my points gain and lets me upload more when someone else wants the same file.
My best ratio files are several 70+ GB 4k Remuxes.
For TV Shows, I downloaded complete seasons as they are always freelech, unless it was a show I really want to watch right away.
These days I just add it to Sonarr and let it rip.
It goes without saying that you keep seeding everything for as long as you can. I have several hundred, some people have thousands.
Make sure you start with freeleech content to build a small buffer so you don't get warnings that stress you out. It sucks frantically trying to get your ratio up before some timer ends and you get banned.
Feel free to ask if you need some more help, and enjoy TL. It's a really good site run by what seems to be very level headed people.
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Fair warning though: it will break. Lock your package versions, and don't be surprised when an interface changes and you need to rework it.