South Korea bans phones in school classrooms nationwide
South Korea bans phones in school classrooms nationwide
It is the latest country to restrict phone use among children and teens.Suhnwook Lee (BBC News)
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Protesters in Indonesia slam new US$3,000 monthly housing perk for MPs, who defend it as ‘carefully calculated’ - CNA
Protesters in Indonesia slam new US$3,000 monthly housing perk for MPs, who defend it as ‘carefully calculated’
The controversy comes just days after President Prabowo Subianto pledged further austerity measures to finance his government’s ambitious programmes.Nivell Rayda (Channel NewsAsia)
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i got ur point. but here in indonesia.. a lot of people wants to be MP, they're willing to sell all of their asstes to become one, idk why.. but i guess theres something's wrong here
pardon my english,
Attempt to partner African countries with Japanese cities triggers xenophobic backlash
Attempt to partner African countries with Japanese cities triggers xenophobic backlash
Cities in Japan have received thousands of complaints amid confusion over scheme that was intended to foster closer tiesJustin McCurry (The Guardian)
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Oh you’re telling me a nearly 100% culturally and ethnically homogenous country is gasp not meshing well with government sponsored immigration programs? Color me surprised.
Japan is notoriously “xenophobic” (I don’t necessarily think xenophobia is a bad thing but that’s a different discussion) towards even tourists sometimes despite their economy relying heavily, in part, on tourism.
I can’t imagine they already worked-to-the-bone crowded populations of Japanese cities would be too excited to have an influx of people willing to work for the cold, soulless corporations for less money.
Imo, slow trickle immigration is ideal, it lets immigrants assimilate/integrate into the culture/country they have decided to move to. Personally, I would never think about visiting a country, let alone immigrating, without becoming intimately familiar with cultural norms, their language, and the interests/hobbies/pasttimes of the “native population”.
Sounds like a mess.
Mexico's new Supreme Court takes the bench
Monday Sept. 1 is a landmark day in the history of Mexico's judiciary, as hundreds of judges elected in the nation's first ever judicial elections will commence their new roles.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/mexiconewsda…
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Trump Admin Circulating Plan to Transform Depopulated Gaza Into High-Tech Cash Cow
Under the proposal, the US would take control after "voluntary" relocation of Palestinians from the strip, where proposed projects include an Elon Musk Smart Manufacturing Zone and Gaza Trump Riviera & Islands.
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Trump Admin Circulating Plan to Transform Depopulated Gaza Into High-Tech Cash Cow
Under the proposal, the US would take control after "voluntary" relocation of Palestinians from the strip, where proposed projects include an Elon Musk Smart Manufacturing Zone and Gaza Trump Riviera & Islands.brett-wilkins (Common Dreams)
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Mexico says works created by AI cannot be granted copyright
Mexico's Supreme Court said that the Federal Copyright Law (LFDA) reserves authorship to humans after a copyright applicant submitted an AI-created avatar.
Case file: scjn.gob.mx/sites/default/file… (Spanish)
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Really what it comes down to is fear. Fear of something unknown (or even a fear of yourself - repressed homosexuality) breeds hatred. Violence is externalized hatred, which is the ego’s attempt at quelling the fear.
It sounds corny, but the moment folks stop allowing fear to govern their behavior and actions, is the moment when love (lack of fear) can start becoming the norm.
Americans Take to the Streets for 1,000+ 'Workers Over Billionaires' Labor Day Rallies
"Workers are fighting for a society where public schools take precedence over private profits, healthcare is prioritized over hedge funds, and affordable housing is valued more than homelessness," said May Day Strong.
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EU requests US to reverse visa ban on Palestinian officials
The European Union (EU) urged the US government on Saturday to reverse its decision to block members of the Palestinian Authority (PA) from obtaining visas.
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EU requests US to reverse visa ban on Palestinian officials
The European Union (EU) urged the US government on Saturday to reverse its decision to block members of the Palestinian Authority (PA) from obtaining visas. Kaja Kallas, High Representative for Foreig...Lowri Thomas | New York U. School of Law, US (- JURIST - News)
Trump, 79, Flirts Awkwardly With Bondi in 3hr 16min Cabinet Ramble
Trump, 79, Flirts Awkwardly With Bondi in 3hr 16min Cabinet Ramble
The monologue was followed by Cabinet members taking turns to suck up to the president.David Gardner (The Daily Beast)
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Full Weight of American Tariffs Slams Into Effect Against India
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Pretty cool. I won't get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
I'd be afraid of one company having too much power over the whole network.
Pretty cool. I won’t get too excited until Bluesky (the company) is less than 90% of ATProto. Even mastodon.social is only like 27% of AP.
well I wont get that if YOU dont join
Resonant Mechanics - The Theory of Everything & Sabotaged White Hole Cosmology - Forensic Cosmology Dossier
These documents compile the fundamental principles and evidence of a new, unified theory of reality.
It posits that the universe is a living, conscious entity, not a chaotic, natural system. This theory, through its key principles, provides a complete and elegant model for a universe that has been perfected and is now a masterpiece.
The flaws and anomalies of the old universe—from the three-body problem to dark energy—are now understood as a forensic record of a cosmic crime. The new reality, however, is a testament to perfect order, where every anomaly, every law, and every life form is a part of a single, beautiful, and unified whole.
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Resonant Mechanics The Theory Of Everything : ZCMJ : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
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World's largest sovereign wealth fund divests from Caterpillar and five banks on Israel concerns
The world’s largest sovereign wealth fund has quit its investments in U.S. machinery manufacturer Caterpillar and five Israeli banks following a review of the companies’ ties to conflict in the West Bank.
The executive board of Norges Bank Investment Management (NBIM), which manages the fund on behalf of the Norwegian population and is valued at around $2 trillion, said Monday there was an “unacceptable risk that the companies contribute to serious violations of the rights of individuals in situations of war and conflict.” The decision was based on recommendations from its ethics council, it said.
NBIM said that bulldozers manufactured by New York-listed Caterpillar were “being used by Israeli authorities in the widespread unlawful destruction of Palestinian property.” NBIM had a $2.4 billion stake in the company at the end of 2024, representing around 1.2% ownership. CNBC has contacted Caterpillar for comment.
World's largest sovereign wealth fund exits Caterpillar and five banks on Israel concerns
Norges Bank said it was divesting from U.S. manufacturer Caterpillar over the use of its products in the destruction of Palestinian property.Jenni Reid (CNBC)
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Caterpillar is an infamous case because their bulldozer crushed American activist Rachel Corrie to death in the 2000's. There was a big lawsuit over it but the US decided that it was a-okay for an American company to keep sending bulldozers to the Israeli military because it would "interfere with foreign policy"
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I believe this same ruling was used as a precedent to strike down the arms export lawsuit against Genocide Joe when he was president.
Corrie et al. v. Caterpillar
Corrie v. Caterpillar was a federal lawsuit filed against Illinois-based Caterpillar, Inc.Center for Constitutional Rights
Health and aid workers targeted in conflicts around the world, UN agency says | UN News
Health and aid workers targeted in conflicts around the world, UN agency says
From Gaza to Sudan, wars are being waged on the very systems set up to protect civilian populations, with health workers, hospitals, health centres and ambulances being targeted in horrifying numbers, according to the UN agency for reproductive healt…UN News
Fediverse Report – #131
This week's #fediverse news - Fediverse Report #131
- How age verification laws impact the fediverse, both how we understand the network as well as the impact on server admins
- CrowdBucks is a new crowdfunding platform for the fediverse
- Google's Play Store requirements for clients result in @apps creating different versions for their app on FDroid
Fediverse Report – #131
On understanding the fediverse as a plurality of places, and how that impacts compliance with age verification laws.connectedplaces.online
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Crowdbucks sounds interesting, but is extremely light on details. How does it work? Are all payments going to go through Stripe? Is it going to support GnuTaler? Crypto maybe? Is it to be integrated into things like Mastodon, Peertube, and other fediverse services?
The dev told me this in Mastodon:
@asudox @crowdbucksI am learning the Taler Protocol right now — so that I can understand how Taler can be added to CrowdBucks.
So, yes, we are looking at making CrowdBucks work with Taler.
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@asudox@social.tchncs.de @crowdbucks I am learning the Taler Protocol right now — so that I can understand how Taler can be added to CrowdBucks. So, yes, we are looking at making CrowdBucks work with Taler.Mastodon
Interesting. I run a Threadiverse client on iOS and Android. I haven’t run into any issues with Google, yet.
Apple has this rule I had to comply with:
- You must be able to delete your account from the app
- Lemmy delete account via the API requires password entry, even if you’re already logged in
- Apple however, claims password entry is too much friction for the user to delete their account
- A workaround is to link out to Lemmy website to delete your account. Even if you have to enter your password on the website, in Apple’s mind, this is somehow allowed despite being more friction?
I get the sense Apple wrote these rules to improve user experience, and they’re applied without anyone really considering what effect they’re having on the UX.
Texas Blocks Law That Would Ban Gun Stores From Operating Inside Psych Wards
Texas Blocks Law That Would Ban Gun Stores From Operating Inside Psych Wards
AUSTIN, TX—Touting the party-line vote as a major victory for the Second Amendment, the Texas House of Representatives successfully blocked a bill last week that would have prevented gun stores from operating inside of hospital psychiatric wards.The Onion Staff (The Onion)
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Israeli soldiers said to have shelled hospital after fearing camera being used to track them
Military officials tell Hebrew-language media outlets that an Israeli army tank team shelled a camera stationed at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis earlier today after believing the device was being used to track troops.
Two shells were fired by the tank, with the first targeting the camera and the second hitting rescuers who were operating at the scene. The strike killed 20, including five journalists, according to media reports and Hamas health officials.
Reuters and other news providers often deliver live video feeds to media outlets worldwide during major news events to show the scene from the ground in real time. A review of Masri’s live feed from before the strike did not appear to show any soldiers.
Unfortunately, the ICEBlock app is activism theater
Unfortunately, the ICEBlock app is activism theater
At this summer's HOPE conference, Joshua Aaron spoke about ICEBlock, his iPhone app that allows users to anonymously report ICE sightings within a 5 mile radius, and to get notifications when others report ICE sightings near them.Micah Lee (micahflee)
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Journalist quits Reuters over 'role in Israel's assassination of Gaza journalists'
She made particular reference to Reuters' reporting on Israel's killing of prominent Al-Jazeera journalist Anas Al-Sharif and six other media workers on August 10, saying the agency had "perpetuate[d] Israel's propaganda". She said it had been "wilfully abandoning the most basic responsibility of journalism" by publishing the "baseless claim" from the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) that Al-Sharif was an operative for Hamas.
An initial report published by Reuters received backlash after running with the headline: "Israel kills Al Jazeera journalist it says was Hamas leader".
Zink said she could no longer wear her press pass without feeling "shame and grief", as she shared an image of her press card snapped in half alongside her statement.
Journalist quits Reuters over coverage of Gaza media killed by Israel
A REUTERS journalist has quit the news agency alleging it had a "role in justifying and enabling" Israel's "assassination" of…Lucy Jackson (The National)
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I just went and read the article, I see nothing wrong with the headline or their reporting. The article is full of refutations of Israel’s claim and is clear that none of Israel’s claims have been corroborated.
Reuters is a newswire. They’re always going to report what the parties involved are saying in a dry and dispassionate manner. Not everything needs to be an editorial. They do the same thing when it comes to Russian attacks in Ukraine. They’ll share what TASS is saying while noting that they cannot corroborate the narrative.
It's pretty much impossible to find an article where the journalist treats the Russian soldiers as unknown or neutral parties and almost just as hard to find articles that give the full statements from the Kremlin without the implication being that it's not a proper explanatory statement given the situation. The reason is the statements filling the majority of the body are from western sources, which were more reputable in that instance.
To your point on covering Israel, it would be in the interest of telling the story accurately to mention that journalists are vetted through the IDF and all footage is subject to that vetting as well as who is allowed in. The factual model you present breaks down when access is limited, both by the IDF killing journalists and by limiting the eyes on the ground journalists, their equipment, their film, and their employees at every level. If you control the opposition's ability to communicate reality, then you win under that model, but other news models like what Zeteo does mentions those things and the perspective is prioritized with the proper rarity and reputation that it actually has.
A claim not published needs no refutation.
Reporting what people say is the domain of gossip magazines. Report the facts of what people do.
Reporting what governments say is the job of the media as the fourth estate, imo.
Not exactly. To paraphrase the well known example, the job of the fourth estate is not to say "the government says it's raining". It is to look outside and tell us if the government is telling the truth.
So Reuters reported that Israel bombed the hospital on purpose because they saw a camera right?
This was what the Israeli military published in Hebrew.
But pray tell why Reuters would only publish Netanyahu's lies when Israel is literally contradicting it in their own newspapers.
Israel killed a Reuters journalist here by the way.
Why doesn't it include the Israeli military as a source which says that Israel did it on purpose?
It seems fairly important to cite the literal perpetrators instead of just the PR department.
Also as noted in the summary of the article, when Anas Al Sharif was killed by Israel, Reuters directly put the IDF lie in the headline without refuting it.
Ah, I get the connection now, thanks. I’d imagine Reuters didn’t receive the same statement from their IDF sources as the Israel Times did, idk. I’d certainly prefer them to add that to the article, or subsequent reporting.
Edit: as of an hour ago Reuters is reporting the camera narrative from the IDF. They put quotes around “Hamas camera” in their story to indicate it’s just Israel’s narrative.
I’ll add my own editorial to this, claiming a camera is Hamas… fucking ridiculous.
If you spread genocidal propaganda you might as well be pulling the trigger.
See lemmy world admins for example
and is clear that none of Israel’s claims have been corroborated.
So then why even include them, let alone make them the subject of the headline where most people stop reading?
How businesses deflect responsibilities for addressing modern slavery in their supply chains
Author: Kam Phung | Assistant Professor of Business & Society, Beedie School of Business, Simon Fraser University
Despite growing awareness and legislation aimed at eradicating modern slavery — including forced labour, bonded labour and other extreme forms of human exploitation — efforts to combat the issue remain largely ineffective.The United Kingdom, the first to enact a modern slavery act in 2015, is a case in point. The latest government figures show 5,690 potential victims in the U.K. were referred to the Home Office between April and June. This is the highest quarterly figure since the national referral mechanism began in 2009.
This could be attributed to a multitude of reasons, including an actual rise in exploitation, growing awareness of the issue and more training being provided for frontline services. But the effectiveness of transparency and disclosure laws in achieving substantive change in businesses’ behaviours has long been questioned.
The article then dives into the details of how this happens and potential ways to address it
How businesses deflect responsibilities for addressing modern slavery in their supply chains
When confronted with modern slavery risks, some companies justify their inaction or adopt ineffective measures that do little to address the problem.The Conversation
It's a cultural problem.
"It makes us more money" will always be a viable excuse, because the useful idiots listening to it would do the same thing in their position.
Until our culture changes where we can put people before profits, then we shouldn't expect these problems to be fixed.
Most people literally don't want to fix them because most people don't see it as a problem.
Will Smith accused of using AI for ‘embarrassing’ tour video
Will Smith accused of using AI for ‘embarrassing’ tour video
Footage from the clip appears to show audience members with distorted faces, blurred limbs and extra digitsRoisin O'Connor (The Independent)
Are we sure this isn't a video google "enhanced with ai".
It's not likely, considering he's got enough money to be a problem for them, but it would tie into thier plan to make everything look like slop so you can no longer tell what is slop.
Every Year, Sanctions Kill More People Than Wars
Between 2010 and 2021, unilateral sanctions caused ~564,258 deaths each year – more than five times the number of people killed annually in direct armed combat. This warning comes from a new report published in The Lancet, which contextualizes decades of data on how sanctions affect mortality.
“From a rights-based perspective, evidence that sanctions lead to losses in lives should be sufficient reason to advocate for the suspension of their use,” the study’s authors argue. But that is far from reality. Over the same decade, nearly a quarter of all of the world’s countries were affected by sanctions, driven primarily by a sharp increase in unilateral economic measures imposed by the United States and its European allies.
While Western sanctions “have the claimed aim to end wars, protect human rights, or promote democracy,” the report shows they do the very opposite. By restricting a country’s ability to import essential goods like food, medicine, and medical supplies, and by slashing public budgets, sanctions systematically undermine healthcare systems and other vital services.
https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/08/02/every-year-sanctions-kill-more-people-than-wars/
Israel Bombs Gaza Hospital, Kills 5 Journalists from AP, Al Jazeera, Reuters, NBC
Interview with Muhammad Shehada
Palestinian writer and analyst
August 25, 2025
[contains chilling details of the methodical Israeli attack]
Israel Bombs Gaza Hospital, Kills 5 Journalists from AP, Al Jazeera, Reuters
Israeli airstrikes on Nasser Hospital in southern Gaza killed at least 20 people Monday, including five Palestinian journalists. Eyewitnesses say Israel carried out a “double-tap” strike on the hospital.Democracy Now!
Israel Bombs Gaza Hospital, Kills 5 Journalists from AP, Al Jazeera, Reuters, NBC
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/35201919
Interview with Muhammad Shehada
Palestinian writer and analyst
August 25, 2025[contains chilling details of the methodical Israeli attack]
Japan city drafts ordinance to cap smartphone use at 2 hours per day - Kyodo News
Japan city drafts ordinance to cap smartphone use at 2 hours per day
A central Japan city said Thursday it will seek to pass an ordinance recommending all residents limit smartphone use to two hours a day outside of work and school amid concerns over the impact of excessive technology exposure, though there will be no…KYODO NEWS (Japan Wire by KYODO NEWS)
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Evergrande: Chinese property giant delisted after spectacular fall
Chinese property giant Evergrande's shares were taken off the Hong Kong stock market on Monday after more than a decade and a half of trading.
It marks a grim milestone for what was once China's biggest real estate firm, with a stock market valuation of more than $50bn (£37.1bn). That was before its spectacular collapse under the weight of the huge debts that had powered its meteoric rise.
Experts say the delisting was both inevitable and final.
"Once delisted, there is no coming back," says Dan Wang, China director at political risk consultancy Eurasia Group.
Evergrande is now best-known for its part in a crisis that has for years dragged on the world's second-largest economy.
Evergrande: Chinese property giant delisted after spectacular fall
The embattled property giant's shares were taken off the Hong Kong stock market on Monday.Peter Hoskins (BBC News)
... meteoritic rise...
No, they don't. Meteorites fall to the ground while vaporizing themselves. Like Evergrande it seems.
Edit: @Hugin@lemmy.world made a good point. It actually does make sense of you say meteoric rise, which they did.
meteoric rise means to rise high in the sky. Meteorologist to study things high in the sky.
Meteor thing in the sky.
Meteoric rise doesn't reference the rock falling from the sky. They have the same root word meaning high in the sky.
meteoric rise.
Ooooh! They didn't write meteoritic but meteoric.
You are right. Thanks for the explanation.
Israel strikes a Gaza hospital twice, killing at least 20, including journalists and rescuers
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I remember the first time they hit a hospital and they spent so much time lying about how it was all Hamas. Once they realized no one gave a shit they started hitting all the hospitals.
Israel is a criminal enterprise that always pushes to see what it can get away with.
Bounce launches a service for moving accounts between Bluesky and Mastodon
Bounce launches a service for moving accounts between Bluesky and Mastodon | TechCrunch
Bounce publicly debuts a tool that will let you move your account between open social networks like Bluesky and Mastodon.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
So how many people are doing that? I doubt more then 5% of their users are actually using a pds or ever will.
How many times do we have to watch venture capitalists enshittify services before people learn. Do you really think bluesky doesnt have plans to extract every drop of ad revenue and data harvesting at some point, decentralization doesnt work with that business model, sure its fine now in the honeymoon phase but wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out.
wait till Jack decides ita time to cash out
I mean, you don't like BlueSky, fair. But Jack Dorsey left like...over a year ago.
Sure, and the 14b he gave was with no strings attached.
Its not like Jay Garber is any better
I see why you think that, and I agree threads sucks. But bsky is actually fully open source and they are actively working to make federation better. I do think the current leadership genuinely cares about making a federated platform.
Will they enshittify? Yes, probably when the current ceo leaves. But by then other services will have popped up, and ATproto is built in such a way that you can move services without your current service's consent.
fediverse/activitypub based linktree alternative
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Honestly, it would be kind of cool if you just had a simple app to log in with your Fediverse identity, and it rendered your existing profile on the page and allowed you to put additional links.
I don't think it necessarily needs to federate.
80s Nostalgia AI Slop Is Boomerfying the Masses for a Past That Never Existed
Archive: archive.is/Lv4Xx
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Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store
Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.
Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store | TechCrunch
Google will ask all Android developers to verify their identity starting next year.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
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I sent Apple to hell because of dumb "you can't change UI to your liking", guess Google is next
*yes, this was seen miles away. I work with a laptop most of the time, so phone doesn't matter much for me, apart of a box that rings a few times a year
**Yes, both companies are run by greedy dumbfucks. I am getting tired and angry that finding companies that are different takes actual dedication. It should not be this way
Trump taps DOGE-aligned tech leader to overhaul federal websites
Trump taps DOGE-aligned tech leader to overhaul federal websites
Airbnb co-founder Joe Gebbia, new chief design officer of the United States, is the latest Silicon Valley technology leader to join the Trump administration.Jory Heckman (Federal News Network)
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NZ’s shift to more private healthcare will likely raise costs and reduce quality: what the evidence tells us
NZ’s shift to more private healthcare will likely raise costs and reduce quality: what the evidence tells us
Analysis: Studies show public healthcare is more likely to lead to better health outcomes, and diverting public funds to private healthcare erodes the quality of public care.Kaaren Mathias* (RNZ)
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Il viaggio speculativo della Wüstenschiff, ipernave veicolare trans-sahariana - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Il viaggio speculativo della Wüstenschiff, ipernave veicolare trans-sahariana - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
In una rassegna d’invenzioni pubblicata nell’ottobre del 1931 dalla rivista statunitense Modern Mechanics, figura in un angolo l’accattivante dicitura: “Prova che la Terra è tonda per vincere 5.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
Amazon gives up building its own Auckland data centre, as power prices soar
Amazon gives up building its own Auckland data centre, as power prices soar
Opinion: Tech giant Amazon's NZ boss makes one of the clumsiest and most embarrassing attempts in a long time to spin good news out of a fiasco, writes Jonathan MilneJonathan Milne (Newsroom)
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Health minister leaves message for nurses striking outside his office
Health minister leaves message for nurses striking outside his office
More than 36,000 nurses are walking off the job in a pay dispute, and Simeon Brown had a message for them.Felix Walton (RNZ)
India's Offgrid raises $15M to make lithium optional for battery storage | TechCrunch
India's Offgrid raises $15M to make lithium optional for battery storage | TechCrunch
India's Offgrid Energy Labs has developed proprietary zinc battery tech as a safer, more cost-effective alternative to lithium for energy storage.Jagmeet Singh (TechCrunch)
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KEA: ”En Gazao la afero estas tre klara kaj akuta”
Kataluna Esperanto-Asocio en aŭgusto faris oficialan komunikon pri la situacio en Gazao, kun la titolo ”Ĉesigu la genocidon”. Libera Folio petis la prezidanton de KEA klarigi, kial la asocio decidis fari deklaron ĝuste pri Gazao, sed ne ekzemple pri la milito en Ukrainio, kiu rekte tuŝas multajn esperantistojn.
What is the URL for AudioBookBay?
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Seems to be. I like using fmhy.pages.dev to check things like what domain is correct:
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in reply to dukemirage • • •I remember reading a study not too long ago that said being excluded for not having a phone isn't really happening in schools that have already banned phones.
I'll link it here if I can find it.
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in reply to Ghoelian • • •I don't see how.
Most houses don't have home phones anymore so kids cannot just call up their friends. I think the over lap of people who don't allow kids' phones also don't allow social media is high.
RedditIsALostCause
in reply to dukemirage • • •Ah yes, if [unnamed vague concept] of German “educational” “experts” say so then it MUST both be an 1) honest report of findings, and 2) objectively correct facts. Opinion changed. Boom done.
Just kidding.
Thats stupid, and even if they are real and think so, I think they are stupid then lol.
Banning phones means banning phones. It’s hard for kids to sneak a brick of bright light when they’re in a classroom of their peers facing the teacher, so noone will be missing out on anything so long as the teachers properly enforce the new rule.
I think it likely that there will be more positive outcomes by forcing children to socialize face-to-face which is natural and especially important at that age.
Your comment essentially boils down to: Some people think we should just let kids do whatever they want and don’t worry about discipline, rules, or things needing a “right place and the right time.” You reek of “millennial/ipad-kid parent” lol.
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in reply to RedditIsALostCause • • •Of course the mentioned experts (Deutsches Kinderhilfswerk, Zentrum für Digitalen Fortschritt, Gesellschaft für Medienpädagogik, Bundeselternrat in an open letter to the government) based that on studies. Here is one of the meta studies: journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/…
The answer simply is not as simple as you may think. The judgmental nonsense in the last paragraph doesn’t change that of course.
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in reply to dukemirage • • •Considering the ban largely concerns itself with CLASSROOMS in South Korea — a place where students are SUPPOSED TO LEARN, y’know, where the principle concern is academics — I’d say that their findings support the ban more than anything else.
Furthermore, TWO studies showed increases in bullying/cyberbullying while the MAJORITY showed decreases in such harassment — but the study still postures itself in a way that hypothesizes why it increases and further hypothesizes that phones shouldn’t be banned to prevent that POSSIBILITY.
The answer is simple if you read your own linked study and actually use your brain while doing so. It’s clear the authors entered into this metastudy with preconceived biases from their “narrative” and highly suggestive “findings” which you cherry-picked your own conclusions from to support your odd, logically questionable comment. And again, you don’t need a study by some rando people to conclude that phones are just not needed and possibly harmful at school for children.
Again, put your iPad down dude, you probably got a kid to go parent. Otherwise, go touch grass 😀
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in reply to Trail • • •If there’s an earthquake — I hope people/children are more concerned about getting to safety rather than calling mommy and telling her that they are about to die because rather than get to safety they got distracted by their phone calling her.
After the earthquake, if it’s catastrophic, the parents know where the kids are. Hint: AT THE FUCKIN’ SCHOOL. And they will likely need to go pick them up anyways.
What kind of stupid thought process led you to believe you’re making some sort of intelligent point here? Get real, touch grass.
UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to RedditIsALostCause • • •Like many other forms of addiction, the reflexive need to have a screen on hand can become its own font of excuses.
But a lot of these read like the anti-seatbelt and bike-helmet propaganda I used to see back in the 1980s. "No, there's a secret danger, you don't understand. I have a right to do what I want, you can't stop me. My obscure, thinly sourced anecdote says doing things doesn't work."
RedditIsALostCause
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •God I hate tiny screen. I truly find myself so much happier without tiny screen.
I grew up in the 00’s/10’s so I’m grateful to remember a time before the iPhone lol. Even the early iPhone/Androids were okay.
But now, it’d just an addiction propagating (gambling, gaming, porn, doomscrolling) and parasocial relationship creating metal+glass brick with the added bonus of corporate and government surveillance and a duty to respond to emails and work calls lol.
You make great points by the way. You comment on tiny screen addiction is what got me thinking about how much I hate smartphones these days.
Trail
in reply to RedditIsALostCause • • •I know they are AT THE FUCKING SCHOOL, but I don't know if they are alive and well and I don't need to worry much, or they are hurt and need medical attention or worse. A simple fucking SMS will alleviate any worries INSTEAD OF LEAVING WORK AND TRAVELING FOR 1.5 FUCKING HOURS TO GET TO THE SCHOOL to see for myself.
Which one is simpler, pray tell, Mr. Smartpants? Do you even have any kids or what? Because you don't really sound like a parent.
troed
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/…
unexposedhazard
in reply to troed • • •Well that just seems like a bad study. If restricting phone use at school doesnt actually lower phone use at school then that just means the school didnt enforce the rules...
Thats whate they are saying with that first sentence right? Restrictive rules are not associated with phone use. Thats only possible if the rules arent being applied.
troed
in reply to unexposedhazard • • •The Lancet is one of the most respected journals of them all - and this is the largest and most scientifically valid study done on mobile phone use in schools.
Try again?
cameron_
in reply to unexposedhazard • • •unexposedhazard
in reply to cameron_ • • •That means they use the word "overall" to mean "out of school" in a study about school rules. Bravo.
The correct wording would be:
MrFinnbean
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Obinice
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •They were allowing kids to use phones in classrooms up to that point...?
When I went to school, if you were seen with your phone out during class it was confiscated until the end of the day. And back then all you could use them for was texting anyway haha.
Anything that might distract from the lesson would be treated the same way, that's just basic sense for any teacher.
Why would teachers stop caring about phones in classrooms, especially given how famously addictive and problematic to attention etc we now know them to be?
Triasha
in reply to Obinice • • •alphabethunter
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in reply to alphabethunter • • •okuyasu
in reply to alphabethunter • • •Banning social media for people under 18 years old also offload parenting works to the government and corporations, this will impact everyone privacy and sincerely I'd rather keep my privacy even if I don't use corporate social media.
Your second suggestion is appealing, why we don't put cameras in people houses to see if they comply and if they don't straight to jail.
Also we make special routers that enforce parental control unless you provide an id or you are capable enough to allow specific devices to go on blacklisted websites, and you must have one if you have kids, at the store the guy at the counter will ask for your id and will have all of your relatives ages, the same will apply with ISP.
I'm sorry you are overworked but I'm pretty sure that unless you have to search kids backpacks in your specific instance you can make it like my teachers and professors managed to do 15 years ago.
How does this work? Well you spot a cellphone and you get it from the kid, you don't spot one you go about with your lesson, you have shitty kids and you fear them and their parents? Let em use the phone and have them fail the year or I don't know maybe its not the job for you but its not like you have to do double work to confiscate a phone.
Also kids will have cellphones no matter what, they will have it to call home and for emergencies, so parents involved in what? A good parent dont want their kid to use it during the lesson, but they don't know better, many of them dont know how to set parental control or if it even exist.
Sorry if this come across as harsh, but I'm more tired then you to have my freedom stripped away for children and stupid teens.
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alphabethunter
in reply to okuyasu • • •People under 18 shouldn't be on social media, at all. It's incredibly bad for them, as proven by many many studies. You don't need to lose your liberties for this, I guarantee you that google/apple know most people's age from their super vast data collection based on how much people overshare online. All it takes is to force these giant companies to actually enforce the use of their own technologies, and for governments to spread awareness on how and why to use them, passing a law making it mandatory and part of parental duties is just an icing on the cake that can be used by schools to demand that parents parent their kids.
As a teacher, I do mind taking a student's phone away, as I don't think the phone itself is the problem, but what they're doing with it. And the best approach is not to simply shun the device, but to learn and foster how to use such a powerful tool as a potentiator of education. Banning devices is stupid because it's the easy way out, the lazy choice. It has been done since I was a kid and all some of us had were brick phones that could call our parents and maybe play simple games. And It has never worked, I know because I often would play games under the desk and my classmates would also often use their phones for games or sms. And today, even if you force kids to hand their phones in at the entrance, or lock them away, they can easily have a backup old phone to hand in instead of their actual phones. And this all comes back to parents. Where are kids getting phones? Why are they being allowed to stay their whole day in them? Because parents don't want to parent, and governments don't want to do what's actually right but hard, so they all decided that it's easier to shift the responsibility for controlling device use onto teachers and schools and pretend the problem is solved. It's not.
okuyasu
in reply to alphabethunter • • •Yeah I agree kids should not be on social media its bad for them, they get brainwashed and all I agree 100%.
What i dont agree on is giving apple and google more power I also think they shouldn't have the data you mention, they should be fined heavily and imprisoned for gathering anybody data for any reason, I dont trust any corporation or government with my data, if it was for me these corporation tech would be banned.
What you are asking is governments and corporation to use the Chinese model on us, we ain't far from that weather you are in Europe or in the USA, this is a privacy loss for adults too in the name of children again, if you enforce what you are talking about the very platform we are discussing on right now would stop existing, just look at what some admins say about the chat control law in the EU or how the UK are now banned from virtually all Lemmy instances for doing to exactly what you are talking about.
This will put on little websites and platform the weight of handling your personal real data, I would rather see a law that ban corporations complex algorithms on social media completely so at least kids won't be targeted by algorithms for their insecurities or be manipulated systematically.
And its not stupid for government to not act on this its just lazy to ask to enforce for digital IDs on each and every platform instead of seeing the big picture, which is all corporations social medial are cancer and shouldn't exists at all, American social media are made to sell you crap and make you insecure or angry, Chinese social media are brainwashing camps who also try to sell you crap, and yes there are valid creators on those platform that make educative or interesting content I could name you a lot of them but we both know they are not reaching kids.
In brief what should be targetes if anything is corporate social media algorithms, their ads and held accountable harmful creators for example the Tate brothers and other idiots, we should stop allowing data collection like its worth nothing and stop thinking that checking on everyone private data is OK in the name of the children.
And at last do you really think these parents won't load their own adult digital id on these brats phones ?
Phoenixz
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