Debate Over Key Climate Change Program Continues In Sacramento [California state capital]
Debate Over Key Climate Change Program Continues In Sacramento | KQED
Lawmakers are debating how to extend the state's cap and trade program amid rising energy costs.www.kqed.org
UK government trial of Microsoft's M365 Copilot finds no clear productivity boost
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England Trials Smartphone Rail Payment System with Real-Time Phone Location Tracking
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So they've created a dependency on your phone's location service being always on for what reason, exactly?
Why is this not needed anywhere else that contactless payment for transit services has been successfully implemented?
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People prefer chatbots when buying embarrassing stuff
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Non è arduo sopravvalutare la lunghezza di un anaconda. A meno che provenga dai territori settentrionali - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Non è arduo sopravvalutare la lunghezza di un anaconda. A meno che provenga dai territori settentrionali - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Divulgazione ed approfondimento scientifico sono due processi che nella maggior parte dei casi procedono in parallelo.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
Google deletes net-zero pledge from sustainability website
Google deletes net-zero pledge from sustainability website
Five years ago, Google’s climate action ambitions were the gold standard for Big Tech. Then, with power demand spikes from AI data centres, in July it scrubbed its sustainability website of its 2030 net zero pledge.Canada's National Observer
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Trump to sign executive order renaming Pentagon the Department of War
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/09/04/politics/department-of-war-trump-executive-order
Marking things as adult content?
I'm sure there's a lot of discussion about age-verification laws around here right now and for the sake of keeping things on topic I won't really broach the subject here, but it has gotten me thinking that there really isn't much that can be programmatically marked as adult content on the fediverse.
I haven't dived too much into researching the subject, it looks like Lemmy lets you set posts as NSFW, but most activity is centered around microblogging and that appears to have coalesced around Mastodon's approach of freeform content warnings. This seems like a disaster in the making if "don't show adult content to minors" becomes something that has to be more strictly enforced; these content warnings can be used for everything from benign spoiler warnings to very obviously signposting sexually explicit fetish content. Computers can't really understand this level of nuance unless you throw something that does natural language processing at it, and that will almost certainly come up with a lot of false positives and wasted energy in the process; I can't imagine this going over well with anyone really.
So, I've been wondering, how difficult would it be to standardize a separate mature-content warning from the content warnings currently in place? This idea has clearly been floated before (see this issue on Mastodon's GitHub and this blog post written by someone who was a minor and directly affected by this issue at the time) but I haven't actually seen any work towards anything beyond paying lip service to the subject. Maybe it could be a boolean toggle, like how the former Cohost did it (on top of content warnings) or something closer to how Bluesky does it where you have a few set moderation labels that you can apply yourself (see below).
We could also consider moving this distinction beyond posts; the Mastodon issue that I linked above also mentioned applying this to users and even entire instances.
There are a few caveats here in that people historically don't really appreciate being hidden/deboosted for posting adult works, and there is the potential for backlash if something gets marked as adult when it really isn't. I'm not entirely sure how this could be addressed beyond leaving this to implementers and maybe leaving some strong advice to be understanding and not shove people in a corner because they draw kink art for example.
I'd definitely appreciate more thoughts on the subject, please let me know what you think.
NSFW account and instance declaration and NSFW mode
As adult instances are becoming more popular and their reach through the fediverse grows, content on those instances are making their way into the lives of those who are not wanting to see it or ar...Humblr (GitHub)
Hi! We’re actually working on a specification for content labels:
github.com/swicg/activitypub-t…
essentially a Note (or other object ) can have many labels associated with it, and these labels would exist as part of well known vocabularies, such that software can give users better choice over what they see and don't see.
Yes, that does mean software may provide methods of complying with age verification laws may mean certain categories of content are unavailable without some form of age verification (but that's between you, your server software, and you instance administrator as to what that is). Currently there are some tools for instance administrators, particularly of mastodon to completely filter certain content from their servers, making their servers somewhat explicitly child-friendly.
This would also allow for third-party labellers in the future if needed (through annotations), which allow for bluesky style labellers which can catch content not self-labelled.
I want to stress that the goal of content labels is not to moderate the adult content nor queerness from the fediverse, but rather to give creators and consumers of content more control over what they publish and who sees it or what they see.
It is unfortunate and terrible the way that age verification is being rolled out as a means to censorship and authoritarianism, and these laws should be fought in the courts and politically to be repealed or changed. Adults must be able to exist on the internet, not everything is for children.
Workstream: Content Warnings, Labels and Annotations
Issues currently within scope of this workstream are: #1 #4 (issue locked, but where discussion started) #84 There will be future issues for both our recommendation regarding content warnings and a...ThisIsMissEm (GitHub)
Tech companies pledge to ready Americans for an AI-dominated world
Tech companies pledge to ready Americans for an AI-dominated world
The White House is hosting tech CEOs for an event on AI education.Lauren Feiner (The Verge)
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BenderNet - a demo app for using Qwen3 1.7b q4f16 with web-llm
GitHub - gajananpp/bendernet: An AI-powered data query assistant featuring Bender from Futurama - completely client-side with WebLLM
An AI-powered data query assistant featuring Bender from Futurama - completely client-side with WebLLM - gajananpp/bendernetGitHub
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BenderNet - a demo app for using Qwen3 1.7b q4f16 with web-llm
GitHub - gajananpp/bendernet: An AI-powered data query assistant featuring Bender from Futurama - completely client-side with WebLLM
An AI-powered data query assistant featuring Bender from Futurama - completely client-side with WebLLM - gajananpp/bendernetGitHub
WiFi signals can measure heart rate—no wearables needed
WiFi signals can measure heart rate—no wearables needed - News
Engineers prove their technique is effective even with the lowest-cost WiFi devicesEmily Cerf (News)
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love2d stavolta che gira, nonostante la octo-oriented programming!
Sorprendentemente, appena qualche ora di sonno e qualche ora di scrittura magica un pochino avanti e indietro più tardi, e ho effettivamente trovato una soluzione al problema problemoso delle prestazioni imbarazzanti di Love2D caricato di una tale OOP che non gira affatto bene su una viemmina come quella di Lua… e, anche se come previsto […]
DOJ does damage control as staffer admits Republicans will be redacted from Epstein files
DOJ does damage control as staffer admits Republicans will be redacted from Epstein files
The Department of Justice attempted to do damage control after conservative political activist James O'Keefe released a video of a staffer claiming the government would "redact every Republican" from files about sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.David Edwards (Raw Story)
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The United Nations Turns Eighty
The United Nations Turns Eighty
By Vijay Prashad on September 4, 2025 At eighty, the United Nations is bogged down by structural limitations and political divisions that render it powerless to act decisively – nowhere more clearl…Resumen LatinoAmericano English
‘Alligator Alcatraz’ immigration jail can stay open, appeals court says
‘Alligator Alcatraz’ immigration jail can stay open, appeals court says
Move puts on hold federal judge’s order last month to close Florida immigration facilityGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
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Head of UK's Turing AI Institute resigns after funding threat
Head of UK's Turing AI Institute resigns after funding threat
Dr Jean Innes is stepping down after the government told the charity to focus on defence research.Graham Fraser (BBC News)
Download from Kobo Broken?
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De-ACSM'ing and de-DRM'ing e-books for fun (but not profit) – Matias Kinnunen
A reminder for myself how to make library e-books pleasant to use with the help of Calibre and two Calibre plugins.mtsknn.fi
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GitHub - adrienmetais/adl: Download ebooks from acsm file
Download ebooks from acsm file. Contribute to adrienmetais/adl development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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Barra's Error Message Generator
Generate your own funny Error Messages just like the good old days!barrarchiverio.cl
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Revolution Wind developer sues Trump administration over stop-work order
Revolution Wind developer sues Trump administration over stop-work order | WBUR News
The developer behind Revolution Wind, a large — and nearly complete — wind farm near Massachusetts and Rhode Island, is suing to overturn the Trump administration's stop-work order.Miriam Wasser (WBUR)
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Project 2025 group wants huge changes to policy to encourage more kids
The right-wing think tank behind Project 2025 is now crafting new policy suggestions, including an incentive for married couples to have more children, according to a report.Following its controversial 900-page blueprint for President Donald Trump’s second term, the Heritage Foundation is now drafting a new position paper that includes calls for a “Manhattan Project to restore the nuclear family,” referring to the program to develop the first nuclear weapons, the Washington Post reported.
The forthcoming paper, titled “We Must Save the American Family,” reportedly urges the government to pour funds into individual families rather than child care programs, like Head Start, according to the Post.
The Heritage Foundation is also urging the president to issue orders that require all proposed policies to “measure their positive or negative impacts on marriage and family.” If a program scores poorly, it should be revamped, according to the Post.
“For family policy to succeed, old orthodoxies must be re-examined and innovative approaches embraced, but more than that, we need to mobilize a nation to meet this moment,” the paper reportedly reads.
Project 2025 group wants a ‘Manhattan Project’ for babies – with huge changes to policy to encourage more kids
A draft of a forthcoming paper reportedly includes policies that aim to ‘restore the nuclear family’Kelly Rissman (The Independent)
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US | FAA Investigating After 2 United Boeing 737s Collide At SFO
The incident occurred on Monday evening.
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Seeking Justice: Families Of Boeing 737 MAX Crash Victims Speak Out In Latest Hearing
This is the latest in a long line of hearings regarding the deadly accidents
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If You’re a Socialist, Root for the Green Bay Packers
Let’s get one thing straight: the Green Bay Packers are the only socialist team in the NFL.
Nvidia dominates GPU shipments with 94% share — 27% surge in shipments likely caused by customers getting ahead of tariffs
27% increase in GPU shipments, 21.6% increase for CPUs
3 in 4 Gaza Detainees Held Without Trial by Israel Are Civilians, Military Database Says
3 out of 4 of the Palestinian detainees from Gaza held without trial as "unlawful combatants" by Israel are civilians, according to data from a classified Israeli military database.
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3 in 4 Gaza Detainees Held Without Trial by Israel Are Civilians, Military Database Says
Jessica Montell, director of the Israeli human rights group HaMoked, said Israel's "unlawful combatants" law "has been used to facilitate the forced disappearance of hundreds and even thousands of people."stephen-prager (Common Dreams)
Xi Jinping holds talks with Kim Jong Un
Xi Jinping holds talks with Kim Jong Un
Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee and Chinese president, held talks with Kim Jong Un, general secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea and president of the State Affairs of the Democratic People's Republi…www.globaltimes.cn
By chasing ideology and empty slogans, the EU has handed its energy lifeline to China and completely subordinated itself to U.S. interests.
At the recent Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Beijing, Russia, China, and Mongolia signed a legally binding memorandum for the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline. Stretching 2,600 km and carrying a price tag of $13.6 billion, this pipeline will deliver 50 bcm/year of Russian gas from the Arctic directly to northern China via Mongolia, bypassing Europe entirely.
In Europe, 50 bcm of Russian gas is worth $16.5 billion today. U.S. LNG for the same volume costs around $25 billion, while direct purchase from Russia, based on recent Gazprom deals with China, would've been roughly $6–6.5 billion. Europe’s cheap Russian pipeline gas, once the backbone of German industry, will now flow to China securing a stable, cheap energy supply.
Pushing Europe to sever its energy ties with Russia has inadvertently transferred strategic leverage to China. Europe now overpays for U.S. LNG, loses industrial competitiveness, and slides toward recession creating a perfect scenario for intra-European tensions.
President Xi framed PoS2 as a cornerstone of the “no-limits” strategic partnership with Russia, guaranteeing China a reliable, land-based energy corridor. Russia secured a guaranteed buyer, China locked in long-term supplies, meanwhile Europe faces the erosion of its industrial and geopolitical position.
By divorcing itself from affordable Russian gas, Europe has eliminated any realistic chance of industrial recovery and viable economic future. The global energy map is being rewritten with European decline accelerating, while China and India continue to rise strategically and economically.
Europe faces the final collapse of its industrial and geopolitical relevance, while the US loses its only truly successful historical project which was the "rules based international order".
What the Power of Siberia 2 Deal Really Means for Russia and China
Moscow and Beijing on Tuesday reached an agreement to build Power of Siberia 2, a long-delayed pipeline to supply Russian gas to China.Moscow Times Reporter (The Moscow Times)
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US jobless claims rise, private payrolls growth slows
The number of Americans filing new applications for unemployment benefits increased more than expected last week, while hiring by private employers slowed in August, offering further evidence that labor market conditions were softening.
The reports were released a day after government data showed there were more unemployed people than positions available in July for the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic. Job growth has shifted into stall-speed, with economists blaming President Donald Trump's sweeping import tariffs and an immigration crackdown that is hampering hiring at construction sites and restaurants.
The Fed's "Beige Book" report on Wednesday noted that "firms were hesitant to hire workers because of weaker demand or uncertainty." The softening labor tone was reinforced on Thursday with the release of the ADP National Employment Report, which showed private employment increased by 54,000 jobs last month after advancing by 106,000 in July.
The downbeat assessment of the labor market was also evident in the Institute for Supply Management survey, which showed a measure of services sector employment contracting for a third straight month in August.
Economists, as a result, are bracing for another month of tepid job growth when the Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics publishes its closely watched employment report on Friday. A Reuters survey of economists estimated nonfarm payrolls increased by 75,000 jobs last month after rising by 73,000 in July.
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-jobless-claims-rise-private-payrolls-growth-slows-2025-09-04/
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Mark Zuckerberg, the Lawyer, Is Suing Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO
Mark Zuckerberg, the Lawyer, Is Suing Mark Zuckerberg, the CEO
An Indiana attorney is suing Meta for repeatedly shutting down his Facebook pagesEce Yildirim (Gizmodo)
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Same thing happened after WW1 too btw. The strong anti-German sentiments across the US and Europe prompted multiple changes. William and Vilhelm became Bills or Ville; Müller became Miller; Schmidt became Smith.
I had a lot of Swedish family who did this from around 1915-1930 and as you said, again after WW2.
Idaho attorney general says officers who fatally shot autistic teen won't be charged
Four Idaho police officers who fatally shot an autistic, nonverbal teenage boy who was holding a knife on the other side of a chain-link fence in April were justified in their actions and will not face criminal charges, the state attorney general said Wednesday.
Victor Perez, 17, was in a coma for a week before dying April 12 after doctors removed nine bullets during several surgeries and amputated his leg.
The shooting in the southeast Idaho city of Pocatello, which was captured on video, drew outrage from members of the community who questioned why the officers opened fire within 12 seconds of exiting their vehicles.
The Bannock County Prosecutor's Office asked Idaho Attorney General Raúl Labrador to review the case to determine whether the officers committed a crime and if their use of force was justified. Labrador said the investigation showed that the officers did not know Perez's age or disabilities, and they were only told an intoxicated man was threatening people with a knife.
Idaho attorney general says officers who fatally shot autistic teen won't be charged
Four Idaho police officers who fatally shot an autistic teen boy who was holding a knife on the other side of a fence will not face criminal charges, according to the state attorney general.AP via Scripps News Group (News Channel 5 Nashville (WTVF))
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Newsom says Trump’s deployment of National Guard to LA cost taxpayers $120M
Newsom’s office evaluated the costs incurred since June when Trump sent more than 4,200 National Guard soldiers and 700 Marines to LA, posting its estimates on X.
According to the office that included $71 million for food and other basic necessities, $37 million in payroll, $4 million in logistic supplies, $3.5 million in travel. “The list goes on,” Newsom’s said.
Most of the soldiers were sent home last month, though 300 remain in Los Angeles, per The Los Angeles Times.
Newsom says the ‘political theater’ of Trump’s deployment of National Guard to LA cost taxpayers $120M
The California Governor’s office evaluated the costs incurred since June when Trump sent more than 4,200 National Guard soldiers and 700 Marines to LAMike Bedigan (The Independent)
Republicans end TPS deportation protections for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans
The Department of Homeland Security said that the agency had reviewed conditions in Venezuela in collaboration with the State Department, and that DHS Secretary Kristi Noem had determined that the 2021 TPS designation for Venezuela was “contrary to the national interest.”
The decision leaves about 257,000 Venezuelans, including many in South Florida, vulnerable to being deported to a homeland deep in crisis and under the repressive governance of leader Nicolas Maduro.
The decision will also be heavily felt in South Florida, the heart of the Venezuelan community in the United States. On Wednesday, advocates and leaders were already reeling from the announcement.
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Google’s $45 Million Contract With Netanyahu's Office to Spread Israeli Propaganda
Google’s $45 Million Contract With Netanyahu's Office to Spread Israeli Propaganda
Google is in the middle of a six-month, $45 million contract to amplify propaganda with Netanyahu’s office. The contract describes Google as a “key entity” supporting the prime minister’s messaging.Jack Poulson (Drop Site News)
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Embarrassing Ruling Allows Google to Maintain Its Search Monopoly
Embarrassing Ruling Allows Google to Maintain Its Search Monopoly
Judge Amit Mehta found Google guilty of illegally monopolizing search, and then allowed the company to keep doing it.David Dayen (The American Prospect)
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September 2025 ForumWG Meeting
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 17h00 to 18h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held (today) on 4 September 2025.
Meeting link: meet.jit.si/ap-forum-wg
This month's meeting has no set agenda. Discussions will continue re: FEP 7888/f228 adoption and ongoing FEP drafts.
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trwnh@mastodon.social there were! Yes, I'll get them up over the weekend hopefully.
The main news was updating everybody on context collection adoption (which I've posted about on ActivityPub.Space), plus TallTed brought up how this was handled in the nntp space
Recent context
collection news, in case you've missed:
- Mastodon: PR open
- Lemmy: PR merged
Thanks, I totally missed this development. I blame the conference I was at. 😄
@jesseplusplus Can I ask here, what's the ultimate scope of what you're upstreaming? I see github.com/mastodon/mastodon/p… is a building block, will you be pushing for Mastodon to publish context collections later? It's not clear from what I'm seeing here if that's part of the plan.
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Implement FEP 7888: Part 1 - publish conversation context by jesseplusplus · Pull Request #35959 · mastodon/mastodon
I would like to upstream my fork's implementation of FEP-7888, which groups conversations or threads together. I have decided to split the implementation into two parts: adding the context prop...GitHub
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julian@fietkau.social the work by jesseplusplus@mastodon.social is split into two PRs.
The first allows Mastodon to start serving context collections. This is the critical piece that allows others to backfill conversations.
The latter half to be introduced in another PR will allow Mastodon to consume context collections for backfill purposes.
thanks @julian@community.nodebb.org! and sorry @julian@fietkau.social, my wording of the PR title is a little confusing. I'm using the existing mastodon Conversation model to publish the context property. That PR will publish the collection as part of the AP json-ld for all notes.
I'll follow that up with a PR that will allow mastodon to backfill missing replies from the context on any Create-Notes that come to the inbox with a context collection.
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silverpill@mitra.social oh you better believe I was aware of it 😁
It is a significant step toward broad adoption of context collections in order to enable backfill.
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ExcessShiv
in reply to gravitas_deficiency • • •Yeah that probably won't have the intended effect...this basically just shows that AI assistants provide no benefit when they're not used and nothing else.
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in reply to k0e3 • • •I'm not defending it or attacking it, mearly saying that
Isnt supported by the information given. The GP gave a story they made up about how usage would be falling based on nothing at all, I gave two other alternate stories about how it could be either rising in usage or remaining flat to demonstrate that we cannot say anything about rate of change from a single average.
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in reply to ExcessShiv • • •sugar_in_your_tea
in reply to tartarin • • •It's also possible a handful of power users use it a ton and found value, while the quiet majority only used it a few times because they were required to and didn't see value.
We need more details to draw conclusions. For example:
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in reply to Echo Dot • • •I'm not saying AI specifically is useful, just that people in general tend to resist change in their work methods regardless of what they are.
I also work with a lot of proprietary knowledge, chemical and infrastructure in my case, and AI still can be useful when used properly. We use a local model and have provided it with all our internal docs and specs, and limited answers to knowledge from these, so we can search thousands of documents much faster, and it links to the sources for it's answers.
Doesn't do my job for me, but it sure as shit makes it easier to have a proper internal search engine that can access information inside documents and not just the titles.
sugar_in_your_tea
in reply to Echo Dot • • •Then maybe it's not useful for you. That doesn't mean AI isn't useful for a number of other roles.
I'm a software developer and find its code generation to be awful, but I also find that it's great at looking up technical information. Maybe I'm looking for a library to accomplish a task, and I want to compare features. Or maybe I'm having trouble finding usage examples for a relatively niche library. Those are task the AI is great at, because it can look at tons of blog posts, stack overflow questions, etc, and generate me something reasonable that I can verify against official docs.
If my workflow was. mostly email and internal documentation, yeah, AI wouldn't be that useful. If my workflow relies on existing documentation that's perhaps a little hard to find or a bit poor, then AI is great. Find the right use case and it can save time.
Jhex
in reply to sugar_in_your_tea • • •Case in point, as per the article, AI is pretty useless for regular office work
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in reply to sugar_in_your_tea • • •not sure there is any research done by people using office suite...
it sounds like you are conflating LLM in general with the crappy copilot that MS offers with the office suite
an LLM could be useful for research of large (large) datasets... Copilot would not be
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in reply to Jhex • • •Echo Dot
in reply to ExcessShiv • • •We have it on our system at work. When we asked what management expected it to be used for they didn't have an answer.
We have a shell script that ingests a list of user IDs and resets their active directory passwords, then locks the account, then sends them an email telling them to contact the support desk to unlock the account. It a cron job that runs ever Monday morning.
Why do a need an AI for when we can just use that? A script that can be easily read understood and upgraded, with no concerns about it going off-piste and doing something random and unpredictable.
So yeah, they don't use it, because it won't work.
sugar_in_your_tea
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in reply to ExcessShiv • • •Worth noting the average includes the people who did use it a lot too.
So you can conclude people basically did not use it at all.
Jhex
in reply to ExcessShiv • • •so you think they may be useful but people just like to work harder? or perhps, they tried and saw no benefit at all and moved on?
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in reply to ExcessShiv • • •sugar_in_your_tea
in reply to rebelsimile • • •That depends on the issue. Sometimes it's a lack of training, sometimes it's obtuse software. That's a call the product owner needs to make.
For something like AI, it does take some practice to learn what it's good at and what it's not good at. So there's always going to be some amount of training needed before user complaints should be taken at face value. That's true for most tools, I wouldn't expect someone to jump in to my workflow and be productive, because many of the tools I use require a fair amount of learning to use properly. That doesn't mean the tools are bad, it just means they're complex.
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in reply to sugar_in_your_tea • • •Lyrl
in reply to rebelsimile • • •I've occasionally been part of training hourly workers on software new to them. Having really, really detailed work instructions and walking through all the steps with themthe first time has helped me win over people who were initially really opposed to the products.
My experience with salaried workers has been they are more likely to try new software on their own, but if they don't have much flexible time they usually choose to keep doing the established less efficient routine over investing one-time learning curve and setup time to start a new more efficient routine. Myself included - I have for many years been aware of software my employer provides that would reduce the time spent on regular tasks, but I know the learning curve and setup is in the dozens of hours, and I haven't carved out time to do that.
So to answer the question, neither. The problem may be neither the software nor the users, but something else about the work environment.
Jhex
in reply to ExcessShiv • • •The devil is in the details... what you describe screams to me what I call the "new boss syndrome". New boss comes in and they feel the need to pee on everyone to mark their territory so they MUST bring in some genius change.
99% of the time, they are bringing in some forced change for the sake of change or something that worked on their previous place without taking into consideration the context.
I do not know anyone who prefers to work harder... either the changes proposed make no sense (or it's too complex for people to understand the benefit) or the change is superfluous. That is usually where resistance to change comes from.
AceBonobo
in reply to Pro • • •From reading the study, it seems like the workers didn't even use it. Less than 2 queries per day? A third of participants used it once per week?
This is a study of resistance to change or of malicious compliance. Or maybe it's a study of how people react when you're obviously trying to take their jobs.
Echo Dot
in reply to AceBonobo • • •I don't think it's people being resistant to change I think it's people understanding the technology isn't useful. The tagline explains it best.
It's a gimmick, not a fully fleshed out productivity tool, of course no one uses it. That's like complaining that no one uses MS paint for the production of a high quality graphics.
SpicyLizards
in reply to Echo Dot • • •Absolutely, and it's a massive and undeserved cash cow for AI companies (e.g. Sam "Sister-Lovin'" Altman).
AI is never an investment for businesses or individual users. It's a bloated and unfulfillable promise that just makes users dumb, dependant, and destroys the very environment we need to survive.
It also produces bad products (it's easy to tell which devs use it from reviewing poor quality code).
Not to mention the centralisation of power with the rich who are the problem in this world.
thehatfox
in reply to AceBonobo • • •The figures are the averages for the full trial period.
So it’s possible they were making more queries at the start of the trial, but then mostly stopped when if they found using Copilot was more a hindrance than a help.
Elvith Ma'for
in reply to thehatfox • • •I have a Copilot license at work. We also have an in house „ChatGPT clone“ - basically a private deployment of that model so that (hopefully) no input data gets used to train the models.
There are some usecases that are neat. E.g. we’re a multilingual team, so having it transcribe, translate (and summarize) a meeting so that it’s easier to finalize and check a protocol. Coming back from a vacation and just ask it summarize everything you missed for a specific area of your work (to get on track before just checking everything chronologically) can be nice, too.
Also we finetuned a model to assist us in writing and explaining code from a domain specific language with many strange quirks that we use for a tool and that has poor support from off the shelf LLMs.
But all of these cases have one thing in common: They do not replace the actual work and are things that will be checked anyways (even the code one, as we know there are still many flaws, but it’s usually great at explaining the code now - not so at writing it). It’s just a convenient method to check your own work - and LLM hallucinations will usually be caught anyway.
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in reply to prole • • •Just saying, ending comments with "..." doesn't make them look smarter.
Which specifically, accepted by most communists, should I read? Will that something allow a model different than that of classes and formations and dialectic materialism? If not, then it is reductionist.
prole
in reply to vacuumflower • • •You seem mad...
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in reply to abbiistabbii • • •OK, then - no, not capitalism. Expectation of truth will fuck us. All the stabilizers of the humanity were built reliant on that - if it looks like a duck and so on. It doesn't work anymore. Can't blame something on capitalism if with other things equal the change affects capitalist and socialist systems similarly.
Also a new world war seemed like something slowly rolling, with tanks and cargo ships and propaganda speeches.
What people don't understand is the sheer scale and precision of operations available today. You can prepare for 50 years something that will take 30 seconds, and then we will all have a different world.
I think honestly the Internet is just that - a very slow trap for the rest of the world, being sprung by some parties associated with US military/deep-state/whatever first, and then being continued by Silicon Valley powers that be, only with their own dreams for it.
mrgoosmoos
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •that's pretty much where we are now
shit minimum wage, corporations owning housing, and monopolies in pretty much every market. it's just slavery with the illusion of freedom because you can choose which shitty apartment building to live in for over half your income, and which franchise stores you shop at, while your essentials are getting price gouged and constantly worse quality for higher cost, yet the workers don't make more
that's just slavery with extra steps
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in reply to octopus_ink • • •If you can be in three meetings at once with AI then every single one of those meetings could have been an email
Or a group chat
Frezik
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •There's meetings other people need to have and I just need to know broadly what was said. Transcription and summerizing would be great for that
That is, if I could trust its accuracy. Which I don't.
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in reply to 123 • • •Schlemmy
in reply to Pro • • •Because they don't know how to use it.
I work for the government and we're trialing Copilot too.
Yesterday I gave copilot several legal documents and our departments long term goals and asked to analyse those documents and find opportunities, legal complications and a matrix of proposed actions.
In less than 5 minutes I have a great overview to start talks with local politicians. This would have taken me at least a day before AI.
MonkderVierte
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vala
in reply to MonkderVierte • • •Kit
in reply to Schlemmy • • •100%. I'm also trialing Copilot at a medium-sized corpo job and it saves me roughly 12-20 hours of work per week.
I use it often in PowerShell scripting. It occasionally hallucinates and makes up commands, so sometimes it takes a bit of back and forth to get it to do what I want, but it's still a hundred times easier than writing from scratch or tweaking+combining similar scripts I find online.
Probably my favorite part is being able to ask it "Where did I leave off with John on x issue last week?" And it will remind me that I'm supposed to do x and John is supposed to do y. Or even, "I helped a user with this specific issue six months ago. How did I fix it?" and it pulls the exact email and Teams chats outlining what we did, and I can click the link to open those messages and ensure it didn't misinterperate. Way easier than digging by hand.
Finally, I absolutely hate making PowerPoints so I've been having it make all of my rough drafts from transcription notes in meetings. Super nice time saver.
Something I'm concerned about and playing with this week is pronoun usage in transcripts. I'm working with our LGBTQ ERG to ensure that we can make Copilot use preferred pronouns for everyone. If it can't, we'll need to pull back certain features.
It's far from perfect but it genuinely makes my job a lot easier and I'd hate to lose it. I think it will only get better from here.
Schlemmy
in reply to Pro • • •I've show my coworkers some practical implementations of copilot and that was enough to kickstart the use.
If you're composing the same mails a lot, for example, you can ask copilot to make a template text and then when you have to compose the same email again you ask copilot to compose and personalize the mail for you. That's an awesome function.
I've made an agent that answers HR related questions of my team. This saves me and HR a lot of time and they are assured their questions are handled discrete.
MonkderVierte
in reply to Schlemmy • • •Uhm, email templates are far older than LLM.
vacuumflower
in reply to MonkderVierte • • •Schlemmy
in reply to MonkderVierte • • •This template adds or deletes links to relevant webpages and adds recent figures when needed.
We've been using templates for years but this adds personality and customisation
vala
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in reply to Pro • • •Seeing a big uptake in use in the education sector. Teachers paying for their own ChatGPT pro license to lesson plan etc.
Can't comment at this point if that's right or wrong, you hope the teachers using it would identify hallucinations etc. But you can see there is already a change occurring.
cerebralhawks
in reply to Pro • • •Yeah, no shit. But they nearly doubled the price. I canceled my membership, but I doubt enough did to actually matter.
I was fine paying $60 a year for Office. I was never gonna use the AI stuff. When they said it was $100, I bailed. So now they don't get the $60. But enough people will go on paying that they will actually make more money on Office in the next year, not less.
Not enough people are willing to vote with their wallets or even their feet to effect any meaningful change. At least not when it comes to their tech toys.
FlashMobOfOne
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •That and most governments are wrapped up in Windows, and therefore kinda just captive to the insane pricing. I get everything I need out of LibreOffice, personally.
jubilationtcornpone
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •The sole reason I still pay the Microsoft tax is Excel.
Other office suite components are generally good enough to fill in for their Microsoft counterparts.
But, spreadsheet programs are one area where open source competitors need to get their shit together.
Most of them can do the basics but Excel is still in a class by itself for power users and advanced functionality. That's a real bummer because I would love to stop paying the Microsoft tax.
Illecors
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in reply to squaresinger • • •Our self-hosted ones are quite good and get the job done. We use them a lot for research, and it seems to do a better job than most search engines. We also link it to internal docs and it works pretty well for that too.
If you run a smaller model at home because you have limited RAM, yeah, you'll have less effective models. We can't run the top models on our hardware, but we can run much larger models than most hobbyists. We've compared against the larger commercial models, and they work well, if little slowly.
Natanael
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in reply to Natanael • • •Katana314
in reply to Pro • • •Ugh, thought this could've referred to a Trial as in "All rise for the judge", not Trial as in "Your free trial has expired".
We're way overdue to put AIs on former trials.
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in reply to Pro • • •So use it for the tasks that were made more efficient, and stop using it for the ones that slowed down or were low quality.
Barracuda
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