SMH @ activists using techno-fascist platforms for communications during an operation subject to state-actor level interference. I thought we recognised and acknowledged this problem 15-20 years ago already.
Freedom Flotilla member & supporter group chat shut down by Whatsapp
SMH @ activists using techno-fascist platforms for communications during an operation subject to state-actor level interference. I thought we recognised and acknowledged this problem 15-20 years ago already.
Several people in the comments suggest Telegram, which doesn't even encrypt group chats. Signal is likely the best option if the group is under 1000 members.
Oh, I thought Telegram does encrypt chats, just that you have to enable it rather than it being on be default. Is encryption only available for one-on-one messages?
Oh well, I can't get my friends and family to use Signal anyway...
EDIT: My family only uses iMessage + RCS to chat with me (a Pixel), and my school clubs/friends are all on Discord or GroupMe. We don't use Telegram at all. I've been begging my mom to consider switching to Signal since they complain so much about the issues with messaging me, but it's yet to happen. I think I'm whittling her down tho 😉
King Charles III will host Trump at Windsor Castle for a lavish banquet and carriage ride on Wednesday, before Trump meets Prime Minister Keir Starmer at his country residence on Thursday.
In a sign of the pomp and pageantry to come, a guard of honour greeted the Trumps as they stepped off Air Force One at Stansted Airport near London.
The British government has been unapologetic about its efforts to get on the right side of Trump, whose mother was Scottish and who owns a number of golf courses in the UK.
But the British public will be kept far away from Trump, with the visit taking place entirely behind closed doors and heavy security.
President Donald Trump was greeted by royalty and an honour guard of some 120 horses and 1,300 troops as he arrived at Windsor Castle on Wednesday in a display designed to impress the grandeur-loving president.
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And a few seconds latter you get this. Looks like the person using it have at least some idea of what they are doing, so I hope for the best. And might actually end up using this work at some point.
The A. americanum (lonestar) tick larvae are insane this year. I blame the wet summer. At least it's hot and dry now, and I can imagine them dying by the truckload!
While there has been an increase in Americans applying for international protection in Ireland, there has been an overall decrease in applications made in Ireland.
Yesterday, I did a fresh install of OpenSUSE Tumbleweed on my NVidia-powered machine (GeForce GTX 1060 6gb). When installing, I enabled Secure Boot.
By default, the distribution comes with nouveau drivers, and the process of installing official NVidia drivers is outlined here: en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_dri…
I successfully added openSUSE-repos-Tumbleweed-NVIDIA as per the guide; first oddity is that by default it shipped with openSUSE-repos-MicroOS-NVIDIA, which got uninstalled as a conflicting package, despite this being Tumbleweed. (I later tried to rollback and do these steps with openSUSE-repos-MicroOS-NVIDIA installed instead, to no avail)
Next, as per the guide, I tried to do zypper install-new-recommends. After installation, I rebooted the machine. Upon login, resolution was forced to low.
inxi -G has shown N/A in the driver field.
I've rolled back via snapper rollback, confirmed that nouveau drivers are back in place (resolution was back to normal, inxi -G has shown nouveau), and tried to install nvidia-video-G6 using YaST. It has automatically installed all dependencies as well.
Upon login, I faced the same issue - resolution degradation and N/A in the driver field.
Troubleshooting for this issue has shown that secure boot may not allow these drivers to be launched without importing the respective key, as listed in the same Nvidia drivers article. However, the file that needs to be imported is not at the suggested location (/usr/share/nvidia-pubkeys/); in fact, /usr/share only had nvidia folder, which didn't seem to contain any keys.
As a workaround, I attempted to disable secure boot by entering: mokutil --disable-validation. A menu appeared on reboot, through which I disabled secure boot. Further launches had "launching in insecure mode" notice. mokutil --sb-state output is SecureBoot disabled.
Then, I tried to install the driver again, as described above. Still no luck, and same issue.
So, what else could be the issue and what do I do about it next? Thank you in advance for any replies!
Solution that worked: instead of going for install-new-recommends, install the following package:
nvidia-driver-G06-kmp-meta
It should be available by default, but if not, add the respective repository by using this command:
sudo modprobe nvidia gives the following output: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia': No such device
dmesg gives the following:
[ 56.697148] [ T2989] NVRM: The NVIDIA GPU 0000:27:00.0 (PCI ID: 10de:1c03)
NVRM: installed in this system is not supported by open
NVRM: nvidia.ko because it does not include the required GPU
NVRM: System Processor (GSP).
NVRM: Please see the 'Open Linux Kernel Modules' and 'GSP
NVRM: Firmware' sections in the driver README, available on
NVRM: the Linux graphics driver download page at
NVRM: www.nvidia.com.
[ 56.702043] [ T2989] nvidia 0000:27:00.0: probe with driver nvidia failed with error -1
[ 56.702102] [ T2989] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine failed for 1 device(s).
[ 56.702104] [ T2989] NVRM: None of the NVIDIA devices were initialized.
[ 56.702837] [ T2989] nvidia-nvlink: Unregistered Nvlink Core, major device number 238
Guess it won't work with my card? Gonna read through that (quite massive) readme, it seems...
P.S. Looks like everything pre-Turing does not support open drivers, and OpenSUSE did not communicate it well. Looking into ways to install proprietary driver.
P.P.S. Wait, it gets worse! The main way to install the proprietary driver is through install-new-recommends, BUT this installs open drivers on unsupported cards! This may be a good reason for a bug report once I figure the rest out.
Look, SUSE is world renowned for decades for being one of the most reliable and stable distro to exist. It’s, basically, the “other” red hat. And it has better Nvidia support than most other distro.
I have nothing but the fullest confidence that you’ll figure this problem out. As i like to say to friends of mine: Linux is a learning experience.
With many distributions, it's plug&play now, but some still make trouble out of it.
In the case of SUSE, this seems to stem from heavy open-source advocacy and EU laws coming on top of it, which is respectable, but adds to the complexity of solving issues here and there.
I mean, I get that, but I’m not sure that is the source of your present issues. Like, it’s a thing that that’s worth consideration. We don’t get to just use products anymore. We have to consider where they come from and who makes them. And I’m pretty cool with SUSE and how the Germans do their Linux. It was the first distribution I used after red hat back in, like, 1997. I have a deep love for that distribution. I don’t use it because it doesn’t happen to be the correct distribution for my needs. But I often would like to. It’s it’s a nice distribution, very smooth and professional. OpenSUSE basically the “other” fedora.
Thing: I fucking hate YAST with a goddamn passion. I FUCKING HATE IT. Why do I hate it? Because of everything I just hate it. I’m much prefer to use a APT, despite the fact that it’s incredibly antiquated.
Maybe YAST has gotten better in the last 10 years or so since I’ve tried it, but my God was it terrible the last time I tried
Nah, YaST is still a piece of crap imo, both antique and impractical for most purposes. They should either make it modern and user-friendly, or phase it out.
That said, it kinda helped me to locate the correct system package this time.
In any case, OpenSUSE Slowroll is already my daily driver on laptop, which doesn't have an NVidia GPU, and it's part of the reason why I decided to give it a spin on desktop. At the end of the day, the issue got resolved, and now I can keep it, hopefully, in here too.
Yeah, like I said, SUSE isn’t the distro I use, but it is frequently at the top of the list when considering what distrit to use when I create a new server or anything like that. Even for my own personal uses, it was like number #2 on my list.
Thing is, as it happens with a lot of Linux, it all comes down to what you’re used to, what you’re comfortable with. And I am very used to and well trained in Debian-based distributions. Currently, I’m running Pop!_OS on a couple of servers.
Pop!_OS is quite an unorthodox choice for a server OS, ain't it? I'm genuinely interested in why you chose it specifically over, say, Debian or Ubuntu.
I ran Debian and derivatives (Ubuntu, Mint), Arch and derivatives (EndeavourOS, Manjaro), Fedora and OpenSUSE, although each one on a very "user" level; I'm no IT guy, I just value what Linux gives me and am forced to learn to use it well.
Each has their merits. Currently, I go with OpenSUSE because it gives reasonable stability while not going ancient. When set up right, you can rely on it to keep doing things the same way, without needing to intervene manually. It also features correctly set snapper by default, which ensures I, as a generally non-technical user, won't shoot myself in the foot.
Ideally, I would go with OpenSUSE Slowroll, as I love the concept, but it is still experimental and I don't want both my machines to rely on beta builds. Still, my laptop has it installed and it works like a charm. The idea of "nearly bleeding-edge, but behind the most adventurous users" is why I chose Manjaro as my first distribution back in the day. Sadly, it is poorly managed, and issues arising with AUR only make things worse. OpenSUSE Slowroll feels to me like Manjaro done right.
As per other distributions I tried: * Debian gets very ancient very quickly (and even if you rely on flatpaks, system packages are, like, OLD) * Ubuntu is poorly managed and filled with controversies, I don't feel like I own my computer * Mint is nearly a single distribution that doesn't officially ship with KDE (likely because most of its userbase would ditch Cinnamon immediately, huh) and has caused issues on my machines specifically * Arch/EndeavourOS is "move fast and break things", and things DO break unless you manually intervene on numerous occasions based on whatever forums tell you. Also, on all Arch-based systems, I face insane lags and RAM hogging when moving large files. I don't know why. * Manjaro, as I said, is well-intentioned, but poorly executed. It breaks from so many things, which makes it lose its novice appeal. Still, it's cozy and not scary to enter, so this is where I started, and then learning to fight the bugs taught me a lot about Linux * Fedora needs some work out of the box, but is generally stable and nice. However, the community is too fast to make breaking decisions (like when they ditched X11, which broke my gf's work because her tools don't work with Wayland, and she went with Fedora). Also, I'm not thrilled by its association with Red Hat, which turns increasingly...Canonical.
So, OpenSUSE it is. I never knew I would end up here, but here I am. Slowroll on my laptop for the last half a year or so convinced me to ditch EndeavourOS on my desktop and go OpenSUSE as well. Up to a rough start, but hoping it will go well after that.
I tried my 1060 with Debian, Ubuntu and Mint. Didn’t get it to run (stable) with the Nvidia drivers. And it will only get worse from here (especially with wayland) because the driver version for these cards is no longer maintained.
If found an article* about arch and Nvidia with a few things I haven’t tried. I’ll give it another try. But I have no hopes on getting it to run stable.
The Russian nuclear arsenal has been almost completely modernized, and the Russian special military operation in Ukraine has not weakened it. This opinion was expressed by the Deputy Chief of Staff of the US Air Force for Strategic Deterrence and Nuclear Integration, Lieutenant General Andrew Jebara.
"Russia's nuclear deterrent has been almost completely modernized. This has been done for a long time," he said at a video seminar of the American Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies.
"And if you ask me, have they been weakened by Ukraine? For the most part, no. Nuclear deterrence funds are still being allocated, and this takes priority over matters related to Ukraine," he believes.
The war against Ukraine has not weakened Russia’s nuclear potential, which is almost fully modernized, according to US Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff for Strategic Deterrence and Nuclear Integration, Lieutenant General Andrew J. Gebara.
I do not know how to feel when i hear us offficials speak about russia. The whole trump administration is pro russia.
-trump bought russia time with his deadline demands for ceasefire or peace -trump just said the russian drones could just have been a mistake which is certainly untrue -trump administration supports far right and pro russian parties all over europe in order to destabilize europe -trump supports israels genocide in gaza -trump treats Putin more friendly than selensky or other allied leaders
There has been another major update for Graphite.rs
For those who are not yet familiar with Graphite:
Graphite is a free, open-source editor for vector and raster graphics, currently available in alpha version. Get creative with a fully non-destructive editing workflow that combines layer-based compositing with node-based generative design.
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I couldn't figure out how to get Separate Subpaths like in the video to work at all tho... I fucked around for a while and nothing worked, sure I was just confusing myself but wanted to figure it out
Palestinian factions began handing over weapons from Lebanon's largest refugee camp on Saturday, as part of a push by the government to disarm non-state groups.
Abdel Hadi al-Asadi, of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), said in a press release that the umbrella group conducted "the operation of delivering new batches of weapons".
Five truckloads of weapons were handed over in the Ain al-Hilweh camp, the largest in the country and located at the entrance of the southern city of Saida. Meanwhile, three truckloads were handed over from Beddawi camp in the north, near the city of Tripoli.
Hamas and its ally Islamic Jihad, both not part of the PLO, have not announced plans to hand over their weapons in Lebanon.
i have a domain (.de-domain, registered with netcup) that i would like to use for my email-provider, but i am hesitant.
Why i am hesitant: I don't want that people might be able to find out my name/adress that is registered with my domain. If some service does not need my personal data, i simply don't want them to be able to access them. It's as simple as that.
I read that a whois-check could reveal my data, but the situation seems more complicated. At least, i couldn't reveal my personal data with a whois-check.
Why i would like to use my own domain: I want to be more independent from my mail-provider.
I am not that tech-savvy, so sorry if this is a silly question. I tried searching, but didn't found anything, probably because keywords like domain bring up lots of different topics.
Generally domain registrars have whois privacy so that when a whois is requested they find out who the registrar is but they don't find out who owns the domain itself.
So they would get that you host your domain with, say, pork bun, for example, but they would not be able to get any farther than that without contacting pork bun as like an agency or something.
shortwavesurfer, do you DX? I remember as a kid, running up a dipole antenna, and listening to shortwave stations around the world. I remember there was this station called Radio Antilies that ran the old AM radio shows like The Shadow, The Green Hornet, and stuff like that.
WARNING: This varies by domain TLD. Some TLDs require public whois information because the country that owns the TLD has dictated it. Just pay attention when creating/obtaining new domains.
Domain registration information is public and accessible via whois. If your domain registrar has privacy services use them. They usually mean that instead of your name etc it will display the info of the privacy proxy.
Getting a domain at for example njal.la/ will keep you private, Njalla will buy the domain and they will own it for you, maybe not ideal but your contact info will not be searchable.
For .de you don't need any of that domain privacy stuff. .de domains don't reveal anything over whois except the company you registered the domain at (and DNS servers, but domains are useless without that). You have to do some special request to get more than that. Idk how hard it is to make such a request though
I self hosted my own email server for a while. I don't know how other domain resellers work but namecheap has hardly any info on the whois query. The reason I gave up self hosting email was because all my emails kept going to spam for everyone I emailed. I think there's a way to advertise your server to mark it as not spam for Gmail, but I don't remember exactly. Plus incoming email needs spam protection.
thanks for the info. i am planning to use my own domain with an mail provider instead of self-hosting an email server. Reason beeing that in case i want to change my mail provider, i just move my domain to a new service provider instead of having to change my mail adress everywhere.
This is what I'm doing. I recently switched from the email service offered by my web host to Zoho Mail. I pay them $12 a year for a couple of gigabytes storage (which isn't a whole lot but enough for me and I'm cheap).
As someone else says elsewhere, as well as changing the MX records to the new server, you need to add SPF, DKIM and D-MARC records in your DNS to ensure mail you send is accepted by the receiver's mail server.
The reason I gave up self hosting email was because all my emails kept going to spam for everyone I emailed.
You need to set up DKIM, SPF and DANE, then most big email providers will accept your mail. Worst case, you may need to contact them to unblock your mail server's IP if that has been used by a spammer prior to you.
Plus incoming email needs spam protection.
Both SpamAssassin and Rspamd do a decent job of that.
Note: I'm using rspamd, and for some time at the beginning, it looked like it wasn't really doing anything. Turns out it needs a couple hundred training emails before it will start using the Bayes function. Just feed your Spam folder into the learn_spam command and any of your normal, not-spam folders into the learn_ham command.
Domain registration information can usually be found out somehow, although these days you have to jump through some additional hoops to get it, and those hoops are designed to discourage automated lookups. The privacy gains you get from hosting your own email server, though, are massive and IMHO more than worth it. If you are not hosting your own mail server, then the most you can expect from having your own domain is nicer looking email addresses. Depending on what your hosting provider supports you might also get unlimited aliases, maybe even regex aliases, which can be very helpful when handing out mail addresses to various companies and internet services.
If your main concern is that your email address should not be associated with your real identity, your best bet is to just use a VPN to connect to any large email hoster, like ProtonMail. (Obviously don't use Proton Mail if Proton is also your VPN.)
If you only ever use this mail domain to send messages to or receive messages from people who don't know your name and address, why not. Any old infoleak would otherwise indelibly associate that domain with that personal info.
Yes, I host my own with mspencer.net. Feel free to look at whois info. Your registrar should offer something similar.
There’s this problem we have with self hosting standard public services. Everything that could be used by a business seems like it’s either a full time job-sized hobby to maintain it or you have to pay a bunch of money to a service provider for them to handle it for you. Nobody takes the time to create an easy recipe for people to follow.
Luckily, though email was a difficult setup, it’s run worry free since. My emails are delivered because I did the security stuff: opendkim, dnssec, tls, all that. And I get zero spam (apart from exactly two cases where they abused a legitimate sender - whose abuse department responded and handled it) so it’s been lovely. I don’t seem to have time to maintain this so I’m lucky it’s been running well hands-free.
It’s a project but I would recommend it. Don’t let the big tech companies own all email, too. We have to protect that ability by exercising it.
I tried to run my own email server for a while. It was hit or miss and a lot of hassle. So I decided on a EU mail service called mailo.com. For the amount of email I send and receive, it seems to do the trick.
Can someone tell me why an Android launcher should have Internet access..? Been on the hunt for a new launcher but am not installing software which I fail to see having to use the net to operate...just like keyboards...another one that has me scratch my head
Most include features such as a (subpar) news feed and weather.
These things are nice, but there's no need for a launcher to have them. They can, and should be done by other, dedicated apps. Someone mentioned widgets, but the launcher doesn't talk to the widget's app via Internet... it talks to it via IPC (inter-process communication). Ergo, no Internet permission needed.
Same with keyboards. They give you access to stuff like "ID this song", "get user-created themes" or "better swiping and handwriting recognition", all the while doing god-knows-what with your data.
It's basically a ruse. Give the users something thst needs the Internet permission, even if optional, so you can sensibly request it. Wheb you do, you get the unlimited, impossible-to-control permission (revokable only via ADB), allowing any and all Internet traffic.
As they say, "with power comes responsibility". This is a lot of power. And most apps in the Play Store don't give much confidence in their devs' data responsibility.
You can try looking at Settings to disable Internet access, but YMMV depending on the exact flavour of Android.
Only beacuse there are a couple of softawares that I need that don't run well in Bottles (Nitro Pro and an old app for anothere thing). It's a laptop with CPU i7 and a NVIDIA graphic card 1050 ti. Which distro would be best suited for the task? Is Mint ok? Thank you. Update: Setting the dual boot was getting messy, so I clean installed Mint. I'll try Windows VM later hoping it wont be too difficoult.
Take any distro you fancy, Mint is a good start. Create a bootable USB stick an try it out. This is does not modify anything on your computer, just loads linux and let's you test it. I usually play a youtube video. This shows that wifi, video and sound work out of the box.
This depends on the goal. Sure, installing Linux in a VM is easy and will always work. Also working within a VM is usually just fine. However you still have to keep Windows underneath with all it's problems like end of 10.
I use GrapheneOS and love my privacy. However, I am not as knowledge in regards to simcards.
My family needed to get a new simcard while abroad and I was hesitant to get a new simcard and preferred to 'hitchhike' on a family members internet thearing so he could get a simcard instead of me.
It left me with the choice to: * Get a Sim card * Get an e-sim * Let a family member get a simcard and hitchhike from their internet. (Internet hotspot thearing)
My question: Was my worry in vain and I could actually get an e-sim/Sim or did I do it correctly, making someone else get a Sim and share the internet to me? 😛
What I'm worried of, is that I'm currently outside EU and I don't want any weird hacking attempts towards me from the government. There are a lot of protests here, quite violent ones at times too, and I am aware that governments usually use stingrays or equivalent devices to identify or stalk people of interest.
By having a physical SIM or an E-SIM, your ICCID and other data is transmitted directly to the tower, so using your family's hotspot was the better option in that case.
Depending on where you are travelling to and from, you can often get an anonymous prepaid SIM card. That is what I do: buy one with cash, put it into a MiFi router, and only switch it on when I need internet. That way I stay off the records of whoever else is with me and I am not relying on their identity as a shield. I have not found an eSIM provider that gives me the same level of anonymity, so I have avoided those.
If you really have to register a SIM with your identity, it depends on the situation. For example, if you buy a SIM in the EU, activate roaming, and then use it in Mexico, the Mexican authorities can’t instantly demand your subscriber info from the EU. On the other hand, if you or your family buy local SIMs while showing ID, then travel together and check in to hotels together, it makes little difference whose SIM is whose. For Mexico specifically, you can walk into an OXXO store, pay cash, and get a prepaid SIM with a data package, no ID required. Many countries have similar cash options so you check ahead of time.
About whether the worry is justified. The type of surveillance you mention, such as stingrays, requires both strong capability and strong motivation. If a government wanted to, they could stop your entire family at the border before you ever left. But from what you describe, you are just a foreigner who might pass by a protest. That is unlikely to trigger the level of targeting you are thinking of.
Still, I would not call it “in vain.” Building habits that protect privacy and understanding how information flows is always useful. But if you can get a prepaid SIM anonymously with cash, it is usually a cleaner option than tethering from family.
get an anonymous prepaid SIM card. That is what I do: buy one with cash
Don't they normally ask for ID? I know in France for example it's typically not possible to buy a SIM without presenting an ID first. That wasn't the case few years ago but not it's common practice, if not mandatory.
I am not sure about France. When I search online, I often find resources stating "Yes, ID is required", even for the countries where I know that I have bought SIM cards with cash. Well, the SIM is usually free and what I pay for is the top-up code.
I would imagine (but I'm not sure) that if you try to buy a SIM card at an airport or at an official store from a large telephony provider you are more likely to get asked for an ID. I find them in shops that have signs with the names of smaller MVNOs. Something like what is shown in this image that I found online, where you can see signs of 'Lyca Mobile' and 'Lebara':
But, your mileage may vary. Probably some locations are more strict than others.
Actually, the countries where I have been able to purchase anonymous SIM cards are in the list "As of 2021, the following countries do not have mandatory SIM card registration laws". So, it appears like I just happen to have been lucky and I should not make this as such a general recommendation...
Funny, about Mexico it says:
Countries expected to implement mandatory SIM registration in 2022: Philippines, Mexico.
I can at least confirm that I was not asked for ID when buying SIM cards last year in Mexico.
I just looked it up and found the proposed law for Mexico on Wikipedia. It was struck down in 2022 as unconstitutional.
So, then, I really have no anecdotes to say that it is easy in places where it is formally illegal.
Same in Germany, but thanks to roaming between EU states not incurring extra charges and Netherlands not asking for ID at the time, one could just cross the border to pay in cash, or order a Dutch LycaMobile SIM pseudonymously.
Anything connected to the cellular network should be considered compromised, it doesn't matter if you're using a SIM from your own country or a local one if it goes through towers of the country you're visiting.
If you're so concerned, turn on airplane mode before leaving the network you trust and take a separate device for sharing internet over Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.
The cellular modems are vulnerable to attacks from towers, so if you're worried about things like stingrays, you should also worry about malware installed from cell towers.
Depends, as usual, on your threat model. I do not know where you live, where you went, what you do, who you are and thus who you worry about.
That being said :
if you rely on someone else hotspot well you delegate the risk too. If they relay your traffic they can still shape or monitor your traffic. Obviously I would not expect your family member to do that... but if you are being monitored and there are data showing that you are not at home or work (wherever you usually are) and other data you are traveling together (e.g. plane tickets, border control with IDs checked, connection to services with different IPs) one could expect your surrounding to be potentially targeted. That is one extra hoop and it might protect from "shallow" surveillance but I would not be so sure.
SIM main problem in your situation IMHO is KYC, basically that you can't buy one without an ID and thus if you have expectation of anonymity regarding the provider of the SIM then it is not viable indeed.
eSIM AFAICT do not enforce KYC (no scan of ID to send) and typically offer to purchase a SIM outside of the country one is visiting, unlike physical SIMs. Sure they might share ICCID and more but unless that piece of data is linked with your actual name then it might not be a problem
honestly if you worry about "weird hacking attempts towards me from the government" then you better know a lot more about cybersecurity than I and random people on the Internet do. It's one thing to worry about mass surveillance, with or without BigTech, but if a state agent is paying actual security professional to hack your devices or accounts then it's another ball game entirely.
Nuclear energy and natural gas will still be considered environmentally sustainable investments in the European Union following a court ruling Wednesday, potentially driving massive amounts of financing toward projects that are not widely considered “green.”
Austria had sued the European Commission, the bloc’s executive, over the inclusion of gas and nuclear in the EU’s classification system for environmentally sustainable economic activities. The system helps direct investments to the projects that are most needed to cut planet-warming greenhouse gas emissions.
The General Court at the European Court of Justice on Thursday ruled in favor of the commission, dismissing Austria’s action.
Nuclear power is a carbon-free source of electricity but it is not typically labeled as green energy, like solar, wind and other renewables. Generating power this way requires mining and processing uranium to create nuclear fuel, an energy-intensive process that produces emissions. Nuclear reactors generate radioactive waste and there’s a risk of accidents.
Natural, or fossil, gas has lower carbon emissions than coal, but it still warms the planet when burned to produce electricity.
In 2023, the energy mix in the EU, meaning the range of energy sources available, mainly consisted of 5 different sources:
* crude oil and petroleum products (37.7%) * natural gas (20.4%) * renewable energy (19.5%) * solid fuels (10.6%) * nuclear (11.8%).
Oil is a pretty expensive way to generate power. I doubt that wood pellet power plants are very common. So if you want to reduce fossil-fuel-based generation past that, you probably do have to look at reducing natural gas.
We can use it in conjunction with intermittent renewables at lower levels to avoid expensive energy storage
Solar and wind aren't always available when someone wants to use them; they're intermittent. You have to fill in those gaps somehow. But energy storage is expensive and for pumped hydrostorage, the most-currently-economical form, somewhat geographically-limited. So the idea is that one uses natural gas instead of storing energy from a less-carbon-intensive source to fill in those gaps...but at least you're using less natural gas than one would if one weren't using renewable resources and just using natural gas all the time.
Also, one more tidbit:
Austria had sued the European Commission, the bloc’s executive, over the inclusion of gas and nuclear in the EU’s classification system for environmentally sustainable economic activities.
My guess is that Austria's probably unhappy because Austria uses a ton of hydropower, is very mountainous and has favorable geography for hydropower, so they'd prefer to have hydropower favored.
Yeah, good points. Tangentially, I believe Switzerland has an even higher percentage of their grid coming from hydro, though I don’t know the percentage offhand
One thing it doesn't do is release a whole lot of other non-CO2 pollutants that coal does.
Just build storage and long distance HVDC. Brazil has an HVDC line that's 2400 km long. With that kind of range, solar panels in Arizona can power Chicago, wind in Nebraska can power New York, and every dam in between can be used as storage. This problem has been solved, and we don't even need to bring nuclear into it.
If I remember correctly from when the regulation was originally discussed, there are a lot of restrictions on the natural gas plant before it's considered green. Its only green if it replaces an existing coal plant, and if the new plant is not larger than the one it replaces, and if it has very low emissions.
Conditions for natural gas to be classified as green.
life-cycle emissions are below 100 g CO2 e/kWh; or
until 2030 (date of approval of construction permit), and where renewables are not available at sufficient scale, direct emissions are below 270 g CO2 e/kWh or, for the activity of electricity generation, their annual direct GHG emissions must not exceed an average of 550 kg CO2 e/kW of the facility's capacity over 20 years. In this case, the activity must meet a set of cumulative conditions: e.g. it replaces a facility using solid or liquid fossil fuels; the replacement leads to a reduction in GHG emissions of at least 55 % over the lifetime of the newly installed production capacity; the newly installed production capacity does not exceed the capacity of the replaced facility by more than 15 %; the refurbishment of the facility does not increase the production capacity for co-generation of heat/cooling and power from fossil gaseous fuels; the activity takes place on the territory of a Member State which has committed to phasing out the use of energy generation from coal; the activity ensures a full switch to renewable or low-carbon gases by 2035; and a regular independent verification of compliance with the criteria is carried out.
Not only is natural gas dependence a climate threat to Europe, good luck when the jet stream turns off, but it's also a security threat. As long as they have to keep paying there main geopolitical adversary billions to keep from freezing in the winter, they will never be truly sovereign.
Tokyo considers the Russian export project Sakhalin-2, located north of Japan, as a key source of LNG supply to the country. These supplies are not subject to Western sanctions.
Japan's Finance Minister Katsunobu Kato did not support the US call to impose higher tariffs on imports from China and India over purchases of Russian oil, Bloomberg reports.
Bolsonaro was sentenced by a Supreme Court panel last week to 27 years and three months in prison for plotting a coup after he lost the 2022 election.
Former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has been taken to a hospital in capital Brasilia after feeling sick, his son said on Tuesday.
Bolsonaro has shown recurring intestinal issues since he was stabbed while campaigning in 2018, including at least six related surgeries, the last one being a 12-hour-long procedure in April.
His son, Flavio, said in a post on X that the former leader had severe hiccups, vomiting and low blood pressure.
The most hospitalized man in history does it again! He’s the Da Vinci of hospitalizations! Who but Bolsonaro could get bit by an exotic bird while quarantined for COVID?
This isn’t a Jordon vs. Lebron or Pele vs. Maradona type debate. There can be no debate. He’s the illest to ever do it.
Thank you. I was trying to remember and my brain was like, “Not emu. What’s the ratite from S. America called again? Fuck! I just saw a whole science YouTube video about ratite evolution like 2 days ago.” And then I just assumed it would be exotic.
I watched a documentary today about Amanda Knox, an American who was accused of murder in Italy in 2007, apparently Trump wanted America to boycott Italy over that
before krasnov's trade war, two liters of olive oil a year and while we did not buy meat direct from italy our salame guy does buy direct from italy. we probably get a sassage a month from him. also our deli gets italian mortadella too and fuck i gotta go get a sandwich there tomorrow don't i.
The damage is already done. He got to stuff hundreds of Korean workers in one of his torture prisons while extorting the company and the country for their release. He's not backing off. He's pulling his fist back for another swing. Fucking headline journalists are too "TACO" pilled to see the next blow coming.
Trump didn't personally order this raid. He told ICE they were weapons free, here's your quota. Now that the predictable consequences are hitting, "Not like that!"
“I didn't shoot you with the gun I was brandishing in front of your face with the safety off while loudly threatening to shoot everyone around, it was an accident!”
Hyundai already announced a two to three month delay on this plant after this whole thing. They aren't walking away, but this isn't an event they are forgetting.
It won't matter what President comes after this one, this whole thing is going to influence investment from South Korea for some time.
If you were a foreign company considering investing a substantial amount of money to build a plant in the U.S., and then the unstable authoritarian dictator of that country pulls a stunt like this, you're going to reconsider putting any more capital at risk.
I've seen this plant, and it's massive. I don't know how close to completion they are, but billions have been spent. If they pull out they are going to take a hell of a loss. Hopefully that means they'll work to weaken Trump and the GOP in order to help their bottom line.
The actuarial calculation must be the billions more that will potentially be lost when exposing themselves to further harassment and extortion from Trump and his cronies versus the definite billions lost if they were to cancel everything now.
korea seems to suck up to the gop quite often, probably i wont hold your breath. because they build in exclusive red areas. The only change will come , if Korean citizens refuse to relocate to the USA for work.
An unstable authoritarian dictator who, as way of a supposed apology, has literally told you that he's going to do it again as soon as he's stolen your technology, with the stated intention of putting you and your whole country out of business.
Only reasonable course of action seems to write the factory down as a loss and never set foot in the USA again.
if i were korea, i would just cut my losses and build in another country, like mexico and canada. or build it in a blue states, but foreign companies love the lack of labor protections in red states
The MAGA voters were NEVER their customers. The extremely wealthy are and always have been the customer. MAGA has just been that "useful idiot" to get him in the White House. If you remember that the point is to run out all the foreign owned businesses and buy up what they leave behind for cheap, it'll start to make more sense.
To be fair, lots of companies wanted to do business with the Nazis. Most businesses now don't have an issue with Trump being a fascist, but that it's unpredictable. That's bad for business.
Nazis are the perfect clientele in a sense. Extremely predictable, very forward and open about exactly what they want and given the power they will 100% make it happen.
So long as your business doesn't run counter to their desires it's perfect.
You know expect for the whole needing to throw away your morals, soul and ethics... But big business already does so...
In the aftermath of WW2, it was decided that all those companies that worked with Hitler building bombs and guns and other military goods, they were all innocent of wrongdoing. It wasn't their fault, they said, it's unavoidable -- that's just how business works, they said.
When Foreign Companies who are building extremely complex products, machines, and various other 'things,' come into the United States with massive Investments, I want them to bring their people of expertise for a period of time to teach and train our people how to make these very unique and complex products, as they phase out of our Country, and back into their land," the president posted on Truth Social, adding “I don’t want to frighten off or disincentivize Investment into America by outside Countries or Companies. We welcome them, we welcome their employees, and we are willing to proudly say we will learn from them.”
He can't write anything. The stroke rendered his right hand unusable, and he's probably permanently loopy, more than usual. It's "Weekend at Bernie's: The White House Years."
trump, apologizing never. Like most right winger, they give a typical corporate apology, a non-apology or they deflect the attention on an percieved enemy.
Mother was a narcissist, not on Trump's level, but I've never known another person so eat up with NPD. Impossible to overstate that these people cannot understand personal responsibility for their actions. Their failures are always someones else's failures. They cannot fail.
I was well into my 40s before it occurred to me, mother never once admitted fault or said she was sorry. Sure, some people act like that, sometimes, but you can tell they have a sense of guilt, a sense of wrongdoing. Sure, we've all know people who misdirect blame. A true narcissist cannot feel those emotions, cannot be wrong.
Telling a lie is a falsehood you know is false. Trump has never lied. He believes every word that has ever come out of his mouth. It tears my brain apart every time he's accused of lying or bending the truth. Anyone having a hard time with the notion I just described is suffering cognitive dissonance. Have fun with that, he can't feel it. You can because you're sane.
Trump isn't playing games. He isn't a tactical or strategic genius. He's simply a wealthy narcissist who struck political gold. He got dumb luck, like some of us do, and ran with it.
He chickened out again? Pfft, a proper real man and leader would've gone down to that concentration camp and punched each one of those Koreans himself!!!
He really has got porridge for brains. It amazes me he can manage simultaneous walking and talking.
Why on earth would foreign companies want to invest in the US right now? He is the one that's making it less likely, there was plenty of foreign investment in the US under previous administrations then this moron came along and ruined it all.
At this point, I wouldn’t blame any company that immediately ceased expansions in America and started to consider moving existing production facilities to adjacent countries, like Canada.
To any foreign entities, companies, individuals who haven’t caught on to the obvious truth: You are not safe here, your investments are not secure here, any visas, treaties, contracts are all 100% revocable despite any perception that they are legally binding. Do not come here. Despite the fact that there are good and rational people fighting to change this, the hard fact is that we are flaming out, and there is no telling what destruction and chaos is coming.
Just look at the destruction and chaos we perpetrated around the world when our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history.
our society was at its height and our population had the most accommodating economic conditions in history
I think that's the thing the populace isn't feeling yet. It hasn't impacted their comfort enough for them personally, yet. I never understood the mindset people had that led to "first they came for...". I no longer have that naïveté, for I am seeing it unreeling in real time.
Well, yeah, the number of people even aware that this happened is probably small relative to the adult population, and the number of people aware enough to remember what you’re talking about if you asked them on the street is even smaller. Of course, there’s a lot of awful things of important magnitude happening at a faster pace than usual, so I can see how difficult it can be to keep track.
Honest question: why were highly skilled Korean engineers working "illegally" in USA to begin with? Why didn't they go through the process to get a worker's visa or whatever?
Another honest question: why do we have a scumbag for president? Who the hell voted for him anyway?
why were highly skilled Korean engineers working "illegally" in USA to begin with?
Most of them say they had valid visas or work authorization.
The U.S. has a visa waiver program where people can come into the U.S. without a visa, and have certain rights similar to visa holders. Many of the South Korean workers have taken the position that the visas they had that allowed them to work for 6 months, or the visa waivers they had entitled them to do temporary work for less than 90 days, and that they were within those time windows.
The lawsuits being filed also allege that immigration officials acknowledged that many of the workers did have legal rights to work, but that they were deported anyway.
So no, I don't think it's been shown that the workers did anything illegal. It really sounds like ICE fucked up by following a random tip a little too credulously.
This. All articles I've read that have interviews with the deported people concur that they had work visas or visa waivers. They weren't in the US illegally because businesses that send employees overseas aren't that stupid. ICE targeting them is just the dumbest thing they could do, and treating them as ICE did is currently being investigated in South Korea for human rights violations. Seriously you should read their accounts of their captivity, it's horrific.
I really hope Hyandai and LG tell the US to get stuffed.
You have accidentally blamed the victims. It is common around the world for people to work abroad, and we almost always do what our bosses tell us. Our bosses, of course, understand the laws of the places where we'll be working, and they tell us what papers to fill out for immigration and visa purposes. Every multinational company has several people in HR who are experts on this topic.
So the real question to ask is, "Did their employers try to circumvent the law?" ... I think probably the answer is no, but if you think the answer is yes, then you should immediately ask, "Why didn't ICE arrest the employers, then?"
Also, immigration violations are almost never illegal. They're not crimes; they are civil infractions. Like parking tickets.
I'm sorry that you misinterpreted my tone and misinterpreted what I said. Let me be more clear: South Koreans are awesome and they did nothing wrong. Why do you think I'm blaming them? Did you also miss my second paragraph where I indicated my opinion that Donald Trump is an absolute douchebag?
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The EU had just a huge free trade agreement with South-America. And now political instability starts to grow in the region. Coincidence? Has any EU leader condemned the strikes yet?
The EU is currently working on a trade agreement with Mercosur, which Venezuela is suspended from.
Also the EU has sanctions on Venezuela for not releasing proper election results. There is also the not so minor problem of Venzuela threatening war with Guyana. Obviously Venezuela is also a close friend of Russia, which is a big no no for the EU.
He's treating shit like Civ V. He thinks that by doing this, he can get Venezuela to attack back, and this will provide him the perfect pretext to wage a ground war.
Asymmetric warfare is the only way these people can effectively fight back against the injustices from the US. It's why the US has spent the past 20 years convincing this generation that terrorism is bad.
Mastodon is finally introducing quote posts to their software, with the feature rolling out next week to the servers managed by Mastodon itself, and becoming available in Mastodon 4.5 soon after. Mastodon always had a significant worry that quote posts would lead to ‘dunking’ behaviour, where people would quote post someone else for clout. This is visible in how Mastodon has implemented the feature, and how their blog posts introduces the feature: it sees quote posts as a powerful tool that can easily be misused. That is why Mastodon has focused on giving users control over who can quote their posts; you can select per post if you want nobody, everybody, or only your followers to be able to quote your posts. You are also able to change this after you’ve made a post and somebody quotes your post in a manner you are do not want. In that case you can remove your original post from the other person’s quote post.
Giving people more control over how their data can be used is a great thing, and Mastodon adding quote posts in a manner that allows for people to determine how and if their posts can be quoted is a good implementation choice. Mastodon’s concern regarding the potential for harm with dunking does need some context however, researcher Hilda Bastian has a highly detailed overview of over 30 studies on quote posts on Twitter and their impact. Bastian notes: “There’s conflicting evidence on whether QTs increase or decrease incivility, and whatever effect there is, it doesn’t seem to be major.” Bluesky added a similar feature for quote posts in summer 2024, also allowing people to select when their posts can be quoted, and also described them as anti-toxicity features. I’m not aware of any study on how this feature on Bluesky affected toxic behaviour.
Bridgy Fed, the software that connects ActivityPub with Bluesky’s AT Protocol, has gotten a new feature where you will get notified of interactions from non-bridged accounts. When you ‘bridge’ your account, it allows people on the other social network to interact with your posts. When someone replies to you on the other protocol, and they also have your account bridged, the replies show up on your posts, as if you were interacting with each other over the same protocol. But if the other person on the other network replies to a post, and they have not bridged their account, these replies are not visible, as they’ve not consented to getting their data send out on the other protocol. As such it becomes easy to miss interactions with your post that happen on the other protocol.
A New Social, the organisation behind Bridgy Fed, has launched an update where you will now get an hourly digest DM with links to the interactions on the other network. And if you do not want to receive the DMs, you can alter this in the Bridgy Fed settings page, or with a simple ‘mute’ as a reply.
The .world cluster is a group of fediverse servers all managed by FediHosting Foundation. The cluster contains servers such as the mastodon.world server and the lemmy.world server, which makes it one of the largest admins of fediverse users. The organisation shared an update, where they announced that they’ve expanded with a new piefed.world server. They also gave an update on their finances, with costs around 2000 USD per month, but income having dropped to around 1300 USD due to less donations. As the .world cluster of servers represents a significant portion of the fediverse, and contains the largest threadiverse server with lemmy.world, the financial health of the cluster is worth paying attention to.
A small piece of news that I think is worth highlighting: the iOS client IceCubes will not have support for the GoToSocial software, because the GoToSocial Code of Conduct prohibits contributions that are generated by AI. Every software is political in some form, and fediverse software makes the political aspect of software much more explicit. The fediverse talks about the plural politics of people often in terms of servers and moderation. By having many different servers, people can join the community that they align with. What’s interesting to me about this disagreement between GoToSocial and IceCubes is that this can extent to software itself as well. There is value in having multiple different clients that all offer roughly the same function, and having multiple different microblogging platforms that all do the same thing of posting. Software is political, and that people can express their politics via the software they choose is a good thing about the fediverse.
Rather than act to end Israel's genocide in Gaza, western leaders rally behind a French-Saudi scheme for fictive statehood that entrenches Israeli supremacy and props up the PA
Polls say that the entire world thinks zionists are shitrags right? and their payments to the UN must not be working anymore. I know these things take time, but I do want to see Netenyahoo, Smotrich and ben gvir pay for their war crimes in the usual manner we deal with genociding war criminals-- after a fair trial of course. And, all the Israelis who supported this regime should each stand trial after. The whole stolen country is full of genocidal criminals. murderers, and land thieves.
By your comment I assume you're a zionist. Might be time for you and yours to start pretending you never supported any of this.
I support a two-state solution, whatever that means in your lexicon. But yes, the Israeli officials ought to be tried and sentenced for crimes against humanity.
For the first time, a British soldier has gone on trial for murder over the 1972 Bloody Sunday massacre of Northern Irish protesters. Families have spent half a decade fighting to get the case to court, blaming authorities for whitewashing the killings.
In 2020, after spending half his life in the US, Song-Chun Zhu took a one-way ticket to China. Now he might hold the key to who wins the global AI race
"Housing is for living, not speculative investment" is a policy the CCP adopted in 2016. They are leading the globe in renewable and clean energy production. It really seems like they're building a society for the people and creating the infrastructure to make that happen.
I'm sure it's not some perfect utopia, but where is? And it does seem like they're headed to better places than we are here in the West.
Yes, I have, although my experience is mostly limited to Beijing with a bit of time spent elsewhere. Housing is at least as expensive (relative to wages) as it is in a typical western city, despite there being graveyards of unfinished apartment blocks everywhere just outside the 5th ring road. This isn't getting into the brutal working hours and mediocre wages, lack of free healthcare, etc etc. It isn't really any better than the US (not that the US are good, they're just bad in somewhat different ways)
It's hard even for people in China to discuss this amongst themselves, so that's understandable. I do recommend visiting though - it's still a beautiful country, and the people are far friendlier and more welcoming than I had expected (I thought they'd be very reserved)
Good article. Will finish it later but it seems pretty neutral and relevant painting both the US and China's history and recent actions. Many interesting parts, guy knows LLMs are not the way to AGI, wonder how much more the American LLM bubble can hold. From what I read, he seems like a real, brilliant scientist, driven by wanting to understand consciousness, but also an Oppenheimer type.
It was in summer 2020, in the early months of Covid, Zhu says, that he made the decision to leave the US. He cited his disaffection with the direction of the AI community and the hothouse of American politics – both its leftwing brand of campus progressivism and the Trump-era national security crusades. There was also a personal factor. His younger daughter, Zhu Yi, is a figure skater who was recruited in 2018 to compete for China in the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics
In general he seems more angry at the direction silicon valley ai is going rather then how US politics are going. He thinks larger more traditional explainable statistical models are the way forward as opposed to the black box neural networks and transformers that power llms and most other models in this recent wave.
China is giving him hundreds of millions in grants to pursue those theories, whereas silicon valley vcs probably won't give him a dime unless it's got an llm in it and US research grants are drying up in general but especially to Chinese professors.
I think the countries that refuse to compete in the genocide song festival should just get together and organise their own genocide-free song festival.
Disgusting that so many countries haven't protested yet, and even more disgusted at Germany for insisting that Israel should be part of it, but good on the slowly increasing number of countries that are finally taking a stand.
Permafrost melting also plays into it I guess. Think about that: large areas - larger than many countries - have adapted to permafrost, i.e. below a certain depth the ground is always frozen - and now it's melting. We're so fucked.
This study critically reviews the existing models and concludes that focused deep heat and gas from below the permafrost may be the key factor allowing the formation of GECs, while atmospheric heating indirectly triggers their formation by accelerating cryogenic process rates and the formation of new lakes and rivers. GECs appear to be associated with faulting in the area and form where sub-lake or sub-river talik structures meet local thinning of the permafrost.
So today I learned that that Meme with the Burley mountain man nodding at you, yeah that one, that's Robert Redford. I would never have guessed that in 100 years.
Well that's dumb! Why not at other ages? 115 fox example? 89?! That's not even a round number! Nah nah nah! We demand he come back for at least one more year.
China’s coast guard accused a Philippine ship of deliberately ramming one of its vessels on Tuesday near Scarborough Shoal, a disputed territory that both countries claim in the South China Sea. The Philippines denied it, saying China’s forces used powerful water cannons that damaged its ship and injured a crew member.
From the sound of it, this was a commercial Filipino fishing vessel that likely rammed the Chinese ship by accident because the Chinese navy damaged that ship with powerful water cannons.
He said that while many nations have strongly voiced their positions, mere statements and calls are not sufficient, and must instead be followed up with decisive actions.
DOHA, Sept 16 — Malaysia will use the opportunity of its meeting with United States (US) President Donald Trump at the Asean Summit this October to reiterate the country’s...
I imagine the wealthy are over represented in the segment of Canadians looking to buy American homes, and most feel reasonably confident that overrides everything else.
Economy is going to contract especially come spring. These snowbirds most of the time were more kind than locals. People have no idea how much money they pump into local economies.
Hopefully this is advantageous to midterms but who knows.
Canada ~~will get~~ is getting warmer too you know. From nice and cool to nice and warm. Same as here in Norhern Europe*, and I believe the influx of rich "Southerners" will increase, if it hasn't already.
* I can't believe how far South Canada goes. The most populated area is on a latitude with Central Europe. I live on the same latitude as, say, Anchorage. I can't even find a reasonably-sized town in Canada. But afaiu climate is very different because of the Gulf stream?
Living in Southern Ontario the climate here is already fucked. this past winter was just all over the place. Didn't have much of a spring just transitioned from Winter to Summer. probably going to be the same for Fall just from Summer right to Winter. I mean we had a few chilly days in August.
Research from the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources indicates that ice fishing season is three weeks shorter on average than it was in the 1970's. Increasing temperatures = less ice on lakes = shorter ice fishing season. If climate change is impacting Wisconsin, it's already impacting Canada.
In other places it shows more during the summer, in the North it shows more during the winter. can't remember the last time we had a proper one here, without several melting and re-freezing phases.
Here's hoping for Drake and Bieber being among those 20%.
Do you remember a white Canadian reggae artist called Snow, best known for "Informer", in the early 90s? He pretty much disappeared from the music scene after he stayed in Canada.
Then I hope the US knows how to respond to Urban terrorism, because Canadians will go across the border silently, and we will destroy everything we can.
This is due to a few factors: 1. US house taxes are very high in any place worth living in. 2. This is typical Boomer demographics, they are dying. 3. Older Boomers cannot afford to get sick in the US. 4. This peaked after 2008 when US housing was cheap.
Ahh hello, European. As a Canadian I would like to point out that Canadians have rejected the demonym “American” (when it is applied to us) and have done so far as long as I can remember. We consider it offensive.
If you’re looking to start a fight with a Canadian, calling him an American is an easy way to do that.
I know there's a lot of focus on the US today, even more than usual but I'm getting very concerned about every other countries domestic swing towards conservative populism that's generally intertwined with racism mixed in the current anti-immigration movements.
This is good. I absolutely think it's a problem for every country to have foreign ownership of land/property. It ranges from champagne socialist to hyper-capitalist doing foreign land/property purchases. Screw vacation homes. Screw rental properties. Regardless of all that, don't let anti-Americanism distract you from growing conservative populism that's been growing across the world for I feel like the whole 25 years of this millennium
Hell, I don't want to live here--- why the fook would any Canadian who aren't braindead stupid want to come to this shit hole with its shit hole government???
Another strike has been carried out on a boat that President Donald Trump claims is an imminent threat to the United States. On Truth Social, Trump announced, "This morning, on my Orders, U.S.
I mean honestly, US presidents killing random people and families the world over for literally no reason is nothing new. On the scale of Trump stuff, this is pretty minor, as sad as that is to say.
Rumsfeld more or less bragged about it too, a lot of that crowd did. We haven't had a serial killer in the White House for a few years, so it's an adjustment back (and of course Trump is such an overtly vicious person that it'll have a new flavor now), but this stuff is not new for Republicans.
(Actually Biden and Bush Sr. are the only two presidents since Carter that I can remember that weren't fans of blowing up random people directly with US forces for no reason. In Afghanistan they did an airstrike on a wedding.)
Entire seasons of television have had plots based on the U.S. government doing this once, either secretly or by accident, and how they strive to make amends and reparations to avoid international conflict, and it all happens behind closed doors because everyone is terrified of the certainty of scandal should word ever get out. And now here we are.
The US is a product of European colonialism and white centrism. It would be nice, for those of us whose ancestors were already here prior to 1492 and I am sure for those whose ancestors were forced here in the interim, if people would stop trying to pretend that everyone here has culpability in the current state of affairs. Native Americans have literally only had the right to vote since the 70s.
Okay, and what's your solution supposed to be? To have everyone go, well the United States is a horrible country that is filled to the brim with bigots, but because there is a tiny, tiny margin of people who aren't, we should be kind to the whole country, because we don't want to hurt their feelings? Or do you expect me to add a disclaimer to every one of my comments saying, of course, this does not apply to those in this case or that case or this other case? Because if so, that's also ridiculous. You might have ALSO noticed I said the country is a terrorist state and not every single person is culpable. But there's this thing called the majority....
So no. I will not be adding a disclaimer to every comment saying something both of us are aware of. But way to go on disproving the stereotype of Americans and expecting special treatment.
People from Europe seem to expect to not be lumped in with the latest dumbass bullshit from Hungry, or the UK, or even this latest chat control fiasco. Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?
Edit for your edit: You said terrorist nation, not state.
Is it really that troublesome that people from a nation made up of dozens of states, reservations, islands, etc want the same?
Yup because you're one country.
What you initially described is one country being annoyed of getting said they're responsible for another country. You're all the same voting block. Moreover, a voting block that overwhelmingly voted for Donald Trump. He won in majority of votes and then something like 40% of your eligible electorate decided not to vote at all.
So, once again, I am not adding a disclaimer and caveat to every single comment just to spare the feelings of Americans. You're either capable of going "Well clearly this doesn't apply to people who aren't bigots" or you need it literally spelled out for you. If you need it literally spelled out for you then you're the type of American who the rest of the world is utterly sick of in the first place.
You said terrorist nation, not state.
American.
Here's the definition of State:
a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.
Here's the definition of Nation:
a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture, or language, inhabiting a particular country or territory.
So this is something that I've noticed recently, and honestly, it's pissing me off. America has spent an absurd amount of its existence pushing its influence around the rest of the world, whether that be media or military. In all of it, American exceptionalism runs rampant, with Americans believing that they have the best country on the planet. Often comparing America to other countries as if America is the basic template of what something should be. Yet, when someone who is not an American decides to have an opinion on America, the Americans expect special treatment, saying that we do not know what it is like there. Yet they are the country that does not shut the fuck up about themselves.
The number of native people without some european ancestry in some line of their heritage is drastically small. People have been mixing since a long ass time ago, in good and bad contexts. Far from all of it was under duress of any kind. It doesnt really matter if youre culturally 100% connected, that doesnt negate those lines of heritage. Its quite obnoxious to pretend that just because youre 1/XYZ native that you have no european heritage like most do. Same as it would be obnoxious for someone who has a majority of european heritage, but not entirely, to pretend that they are just european and ignore the rest by affording some sense of supremacy to their preferred lines.
As someone who is related to a little bit of everybody, I dont speak for any of those heritages wholesale. I speak for me, and I guess for other people who are tripartite mixed of the same three “races” of people. To do anything else would be disingenuous at best
I mean, the first war crime had no consequences whatsoever, so why would he stop? I bet we'll see more and more "extremely dangerous narcoterrorists" executed without due process or even a warrant - soon probably also within the US, not just on international waters...
The media is really careful about using “alleged” in cases where they obviously dont need to, in order to sow doubt, and not using it in cases where they definitely need to, to pretend that some bullshit narrative is certain even though the opposite is true
It's shocking how the media just repeat the statements of this government without any questions asked. They're really functioning as propaganda distributors rather than journalists these days. We're seeing it also with them repeating uncritically the FBI's claims about the Charlie Kirk shooting suspect.
Timor-Leste police have fired tear gas at protesters who rallied against a plan to buy new official cars for MPs, which triggered anger in one of the poorest nations in South-East Asia.
More than 1,000 people, mostly university students, rallied near the National Parliament in Dili to protest against the plan approved last year to procure cars for each of the 65 members of parliament.
The plan was the latest flashpoint in the resource-dependent country, where more than 40 per cent of its population lives below the poverty line, according to the World Bank.
Approximately 1.6 million tons of old ammunition are lying on the bottom of the North Sea and Baltic Sea, posing a considerable danger: their casings are slowly rusting and emitting toxic substances such as TNT compounds.
Most of the ammunition was deliberately sunk in the ocean after the war because the Allies were concerned that Germans would resume hostilities against them again at some point, and ordered that Germany destroy all ordnance. At the time the easiest way to do so seemed to be to simply dump everything into the sea.
While tensions between Russia and NATO are building up in the Baltic Sea, Europeans are still busy cleaning up the mess World War II left behind in the ocean
It’s hard to overstate just how systemic “we can fix it later” was in the mid 20th century. Progress had happened quickly since the turn of the century, many centuries old problems were solved overnight by new inventions (like penicillin) and it was assumed that that progress would continue.
For instance, the century date problem, later known as the Y2K problem, was first realized in the 1950s. Then brought to light again in the 1970s. But nobody did anything about it until the mid 90s.
Eeehh? The Y2K problem is result because of decisions taken in the 70's (for very good reasons) and nothing was done until the 90's because it wasn't an issue before. Y2K did not exist even as an idea in the 1950's
Old science fiction books are exactly like this. They just assumed we'd have technological solutions to everything.
Also, they weren't living in a largely collapsed ecosystem. Today we view this story in horror, but back then there were 1/4th the people, wildlife and nature was bountiful. It was probably hard to imagine that we humans could substantially alter the world. Hell, people today look into the sky and say global warming is bunk. Yeah, looks huge from down here! Take a look from space, paint on a marble.
Win10 is soon not supported. Tbh Linux have been on my radar since I started to break from the US big tech.
But how is security handled in Linux? Linux is pretty open-source, or am I not understanding it correctly. So how can I as a new user make sure to have the most secure machine as possible?
I've used Linux Mint and other distros daily for more than 10 years. Never had a virus or malware issue and don't even run antivirus software.
During that same time I've had to help friends remove viruses and malware from their Windows machines dozens of times. The latest Windows disaster I've assisted with was a few months ago. A retired friend had her Windows 10 machine hijacked and $8K stolen from her savings account. Making sure the malware was removed required hours of work formatting the drive and reinstalling Windows.
IMO you are far safer with a plain vanilla Linux install that you are with Windows, no matter what steps you take to secure your Windows installation.
You sure though? Windows has more viruses because it's more popular (desktop) and monolithic, not because Linux is much better in that regard. IOW Linux is not magically virus resistant. If you run an infected file, it will infect both without much trouble. Also removing infection would be similar. At least that's my understanding.
It's hard enough getting legit software in general to work on Linux. Even if a virus was written for Ubuntu, it is likely not going to run on Fedora, or Arch, or even downstream/upstream versions of Ubuntu.
Edit: Although thinking about it, Linux terminal commands are pretty universal, so if you manage to execute a script or terminal command as root or sudo then I guess it could apply to multiple distros.
What do you want? It should go without saying that I am absolutely sure of my own experience.
In probably 15 years total of running Linux I have not had a single problem with malware or viruses. Part of that time was also running Windows regularly and my Windows systems DID become infected with both malware and viruses occasionally, despite my best efforts. And you're not mentioning the fact that Linux runs on 63% of the server market and those systems are under constant attack.
Reports of Linux system infections are truly rare, and considering the nature of the user community would be widely and loudly reported if they were happening.
Do you have any experience in this matter? Have you had your own Linux installations infected, or are you a Windows user questioning what you're reading? (Perfectly reasonable if the 2nd one's the case.) Please fill us in on the details.
Servers are a different story. I'm both Windows and Linux user, meaning more towards the later recently. I'm still wondering why do you think Linux is more resistant to malware - besides the incompatibility (mentioned in other reply here). Your experience doesn't tell much about why and I wrote my theory.
I think I'm cautious enough to not have the experience, luckily. But why does that matter? I'm still waiting from you for rationale why is Linux experiencing less infections. And you keep asking unimportant questions...
The Linux kernel is monolithic too. This and the slow adoption of Rust are the two major security complaints of the GrapheneOS regarding Linux. I might change to COSMIC when it's ready just to spite the luddites that oppose Rust.
To have the most secure machine possible, you might need a hardened kernel but you absolutely need to have SELinux (or equivalent) rules set up.
The easiest way to have a go at this would be to install OpenSuSE (any version will do, they all ship with SELinux ootb) and follow guides on how to setup SELinux permissions.
There's a lot of people with the idea that open source can't be secure because people see the source code.
But imagine this. You have 2 locks, one that is completely viewable of the innerworkings, and another that is covered, both have been unbreakable, but could you imagine the balls on the guy that made the clear lock? Imagine feeling so confident that your lock was clearly the best, that you just expose it to any hacker ever and they still can't get in.
Microsoft can barely get things working with their closed source code.
In reality, anything is exploitable and hackable eventually. With the open source community there are so many eyes on it that when someone notices that the program is running 2 seconds slower than it used to, they discover a vulnerability instead of just accepting it and saying "probably MS doing some BS" and dealing with it.
It's not a transparent lock, a transparent lock would be easy to pick. It's more of a usual lock, but everyone can see all the blueprints and changes done to them. You can make changes to the blueprints yourself, and if the locksmiths approve of it, the next iteration of the lock will have them included.
Everyone who's in the set of users of OSS software can contribute, therefore the set of people in control of the software that want it to have no backdoors whatsoever is always larger than the set of people who want to let the backdoors in, unlike in closed source, where corporate can singlehandedly decide to include a backdoor on purpose, not to mention, lots of OSS projects have such a large quantities of different people working on them, corpos won't be able to gather so much humanpower under a single project ever.
I think this article is a great analysis of what deep rooted flaws linux desktop distros have, but I think it is a bit disconnected from the average user (obligatory xkcd).
If the average linux user needs a programm they google what they need land on stack overflow telling them to use their package manager to install it.
If the average windows user needs a program/feature, they google it. They klick on the first link and install the first .exe they find. Has anyone you know used the microsoft store?
Or take gaming as another example. The default expirience for online multiplayer games requires kernel level anticheat on windows. This effectively circumvents windows carefully crafted security model for most tripple A online games.
So yes the average linux machine is probably not as secure as a MacOs or windows machine. But the way they are commonly used I highly doubt windows machines are more secure.
Microsoft do a good job of updating drivers and their applications, but Windows application updates vary so much.
For Linux - mostly - the distro maintainers handle all updates and just updating is usually enough.
After that it's down to you... if you disable all the built-in protection and visit dodgy websites then any OS is going to struggle.
You can improve the out-of-box security by removing software you don't use, improving default configurations (one size doesn't fit all) and considering if you want additional security software - this applies to any OS.
So, to return to your question, choose a Linux distro which has regular updates and only contains applications that you use.
Visiting dodgy websites in itself isn't as risky as you make it out to be. There are very few exploits in an updated version of Chrome or Firefox that would compromise your machine.
So how can I as a new user make sure to have the most secure machine as possible?
Shut the computer down. That's it; computer as secure as possible.
Otherwise, if you actually want to use your computer, google for "threat model" first.
But generally: use an adblocker in your webbrowser, don't execute random commands/tools from the internet before you know for sure what you're doing, update stuff now and then and make backups.
You don't actually need "perfect" security in the future, any more than you did in the past. Windows was not perfect, right? So stop looking for perfection. Instead, look for "good enough for 99.9% of the world". And you can get that with many of the popular Linux distributions.
Basically, install a popular distro, and keep your software to whatever is in the package manager. Don't install random shit manually. Don't download random software from random websites. Don't fuck with security settings unless you read up on the topic very thoroughly. Then you'll be fine.
uBlock Origin is not just an “ad blocker“, it's a wide-spectrum content blocker with CPU and memory efficiency as a primary feature. Developed by Raymond Hill.
Security is an insanely broad topic. As an average desktop user, keep your system up to date, and don't run random programs from untrusted sources (most of the internet). This will cover almost everyones needs. For laptops, I'd recommend enabling drive encryption during installation, though note that data recovery is harder with it enabled.
Why not? You (usually) just click the check box during install, and you have 1 extra password when you boot up your system. Doesn't seem too hard but I might be missing something.
Wait what? I don't use mint, but with every other distro you just check the box at install and that is it.
Are you saying its hard to configure after you have already installed? I could imagine it might be, but why not export a list of programs you use and back up the home directory. Reinstall and check the box, restore home, and import your package list?
Firstly, LUKS is under "physical disk for encryption" which is a stupid and confusing name.
Secondly, if you want to dual-boot with LUKS you need to manually configure the partitions.
Thirdly, you need to seperately assign root to be installed on the "physical disk for encryption", and they have multiple volumes for that in the list.
Fourthly, as with all LUKS encrypted Linux distros you need a seperate EFI, boot, and root partition.
Fifthly, all of this partitioning is on a really small window that can't be resized.
I don't dual boot, so I guess there is that. But everything else seems very confusing. All other installers say, do you want this encrypted? You click yes. And that's it.
So long as you know that is the trade off, I would tend to agree with you, but knowing the standard desktop user, most will opt for the opposite of your statement.
I hear don't run random stuff from the internet alot but back when i was using windows, if i found something interesting on say github i would just download and run it and i expected windows defender to block any viruses. Is there something similar for linux? Like if I go around installing random Aur packages, is there anything stopping viruses from doing virus things?
Is there anything stopping viruses from doing virus things?
Usually that's called sandboxing. AUR packages do not have any, if you install random AUR packages without reading them, you run the risk of installing malware. Using Flatpaks from Flathub while keeping their permissions in check with a tool like Flatseal can help guard against this.
The main difference is that even with the AUR being completely user submitted content, they're centralized repositories, unlike random websites. Malware on the AUR is significantly less common, though not impossible. Using packages that have a better reputation will avoid some malware, simply because other people have looked at the same package.
There is no good FOSS Linux antivirus (that also targets Linux). Clamav "is the closest", though it won't help much.
Generally as long as you don't install any untrustworthy programs you'll be safe ... but there's a problem. Linux is an amalgamation of thousands of separate programs and most of them are maintained by one guy in Nebraska thanklessly. XZ Utils is a prime example of how vulnerable the Linux software stack is to malware.
My advice: Keep your daily driver separate from your gaming machine, use a debian-based distro like Ubuntu or Mint for your daily driver, and always have a disaster recovery plan. My advice would basically be the same for a Windows user.
EDIT: Also full-disk encryption. Both on Windows and Linux you can just read the contents of a hard drive no questions asked. Windows is going to address this with TPM's but you can just use a password. Secure-boot is good because it can help guard against rootkits.
From a windows perspective Linux does 2 things differently which makes it more secure to Windows.
1) Like MacOS it doesn’t need antivirus software like Norton. Windows needs antivirus because DOS the OS windows is based on, had it where any program had access to anything. This is still sadly true even on Windows 11. Linux is Sandboxed, where instead of giving the program full access to everything, you just give it a sandbox with what it needs.
Unless you deliberately run a program as the admin of Linux (su or sudo), malicious code can just delete system32.
2) Linux’s is open source and while the desktop market share is tiny, there are a massive market in servers. As a result since there are a lot of eyes on the project if/when problems are found they are fixed quickly. I remember a time when a malicious actor was trying to add a backdoor into a library as a blob and it was caught.
Windows on the other hand is closed source, meaning if MS can’t find the issue, the only time it is found is when it’s in the field. To avoid downtime MS offers bug bounty programs for those who can find issues, rather than to let them exploit it.
I don't know where you got your information from, but your mental model on how and why things work the way they do in both linux and windows seems to be really off.
Since you seem someone that is actually interested in understanding this stuff, I strongly suggest to find some better sources as your base
Not sure when I associated it with the entire OS. It appears that the Host OS can be sandboxed for added security, and some containerized applications like Flatpaks are sandboxed. But not all applications are. Like the OS provided packages in most package managers.
Windows isn't based on DOS, though. It hasn't been for a very long time. Linux isn't sandboxed. Userspace applications can be sandboxed. There's a difference.
Yes modern Windows is based on the NT Kernal. However to keep with compatibility with older programs, NT needs to be compatible with DOS. For most people they never saw the transition from DOS to NT, since it was quietly done with Win XP.
I would argue that Linux is inherently much more secure than windoze, simply because of how it handles user space vs. System (root access vs. User access). Also by how transparent its configuration is and how much information is readily accessible detailing how it works and how to adjust things.
However, when talking security for anything above the average user’s browsing needs, it can get very complicated depending on what you are trying to achieve.
Think of it like building something to keep out honest people vs. to keep out hardened, knowledgeable, clever thieves. Obviously the latter is going to take more time and resources to achieve, while the need to keep out more sophisticated bad actors would probably only be needed if you have something they might want.
Here are some suggestions for searching if actual security is your goal. Others can chime in with more things if they want. This is just some topics/programs you can read about to dip your toes in.
Others have said it before but basically : what is YOUR (not me, not your best friend, nor your colleague, etc) threat model?
To clarify that means WHO is actually trying to threaten your security?
Typical for most people it would be :
scammers trying to get pieces of your identity or your local cryptocurrency wallet or resources they can use to repeat that on to others.
For some people, like activists or political journalists it would be :
national actors, e.g. governments, with their surveillance apparatus, who might end up on a list with a set of conditions that would trigger some automated scan to get e.g. Signal logs
For very very few people, say Edward Snowden, who within the previous group actually did trigger some action :
actual team of hackers trying to hack into their devices
So as you can imagine if you are part of group 1, 2 or 3 then way you will protect yourself is totally different. What you will also have to protect is also different, e.g. if you have no cryptowallet but are traveling you might have to protect your phone physical phone and its data.
So... if you are serious about this, take a cybersecurity class. There are plenty available but how a computer works, software and hardware alike, is precisely what makes them simultaneously powerful and also dangerous. There are plenty of ways to break security (e.g. return oriented programing), plenty of ways that practically impossible (e.g. encryption) due to the very nature of computers (i.e. computational complexity) which IMHO makes this one of the most fascinating topic. Ask yourself come the credit card in your pocket (costing few bucks to make) can't be cracked by the largest super computers (costing billions) on Earth?
TL;DR: no offense but you don't seem to be ready for the answer without getting the basics first.
So how can I as a new user make sure to have the most secure machine as possible?
That's not what you want. You want a reasonable level of confidence that your system is secure.
The process is similar to Windows - keep it up-to-date, use good passwords, don't run things as root (admin), and don't install things that are questionable.
The package manager under linux is where you should start, and that varys by distro some. But generally speaking things installed from there are "safe" and will be updated by the package manager when you do updates.
Linux is always more secure than win10, so whatever your need, Linux is more secure. The biggest threat is almost always yourself, and what you open up, give away, and how easy you make the codes you use and so forth.
Set a decently good password (password is required frequently on Linux, so do go overboard with a 40-random-characters-long password, you will regret it)
don't install programs or run scripts from shady sources, prefer to install programs from the Software store (package manager and flatpak)
setup a backup system to regularly copy all your files to a separate storage device. This is the way to protect yourself from ransomware but also user errors! Having the possibility to format your drive, reinstall and restore backup in a 1 hour time span is going to give you the peace of mine you need for exploring and experimenting with Linux
Microsoft being closed source hides their bugs and vulnerabilities. Even when security researchers have sent in reports MS has sat on them due to profit being motive not security, and not taking vulners seriously until the researchers say screw that and publish it.
Linux being open can have all eyes on it, and if there is an exploit, there is a community willing to help ASAP.
On many distros you may have weekly or even daily updates or patches coming through with fixes. A distro like OpenSUSE has various patch and list patch commands that show what security patches are avilailable, their status (critical, recommended) and if it's needed on your system or not depending on what you have installed. You don't get transparency on closed source systems.
If you are paranoid about security you can use AppArmor tools or SELinux. AppArmor can be set to learn how an app behaves, then you lock it so the app can't do new things.
SELinux you set rules for files and folders, so even with remote access an attacker can't access data if rules don't allow file listing over SSH etc
"it is my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel. Our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution that is separate to this sort of ethnonationalist state"
"I cannot work with somebody who justifies or supports the genocide. I can't. It's as simple as that, and we shouldn't be able to do that. In this industry, and in any other industry,"
Gotta love the use of "Pro Palestine" here, as if the only reason to be upset about genocide is because you have particularly strong feelings towards the specific people being genocided. God forbid we just generally think that genocide is bad no matter who it's done to or why.
Palestine is the only place where there is a war of extemination right now
Listen, I am about as active as any non-Israeli or non-Palestinian can be in anti-genocide discourse, but you're smoking crack if you think that Russia's intentions for Ukraine are to simply absorb their government and people. Russians by and by large do not believe Ukrainian culture is a thing, and in fact, have been breaking chunks off from their culture and absorbing it as their own since Moscow was founded by a couple of guys who got lost in the woods.
Russia's goal is absolute cultural annihilation, and their actions have fit the standard definition of genocide since 2022.
Russians by and by large do not believe Ukrainian culture is a thing
Yes Putin don't believe Ukrainian should not exist , he want to assimilate them to become Russians that's why he is kidnapping Ukrainians kids and why during the interview with Carlson he was claiming about how Russians and Ukrainians are historically one people.
As opposed to Israel which considered Palestinians just Arab colonizers and them just the righteous people who is going back to their land so they want them either expulsed to Egypt and other countries or kill them
Both genocides are terrible but the Israeli one is another level of evilness. You are an idiot if you believe otherwise
Of course one genocide is worse than another. Are you dumb? Is a genocide where you want to kick out all people of the land or kill then similar to a genocide where you simply just kill the culture and assimilate them to your culture? Or a genocide where a small part of the population is genocide as bad as a genocide where the majority of the population is killed?
As opposed to Israel which considered Palestinians just Arab colonizers and them just the righteous people who is going back to their land so they want them either expulsed to Egypt and other countries or kill them
??? This is literally the official position of the Russian Federation — they consider Ukrainians colonizers who unjustly rebelled and stole Russian land, assets, and production. Putin does not want to assimilate Ukrainians; the intention is total extermination and replacement with ethnic Russians, and always has been.
I am not here to debate which genocide is worse, because plainly, Palestinians are suffering yawning abuses that would make even Mussolini blush. I am just saying that Palestine is not the only active genocide happening in the world right now. Ukraine can fight back; Palestine cannot. That is plainly on a different level. There's no need to imply I am an idiot just because I pay attention to other stuff happening in parts of the world that don't report in English.
This is literally the official position of the Russian Federation — they consider Ukrainians colonizers who unjustly rebelled and stole Russian land, assets, and production. Putin does not want to assimilate Ukrainians; the intention is total extermination and replacement with ethnic Russians, and always has been
Which Putin statements prove that they think Ukrainians are colonizers and that they want to exterminate the people and kick them out rather than exterminate their culture?
Palestine is not the only active genocide happening in the world right now
And i never denied that but the truth is that the situation in Gaza is a lot more urgent and severe. Ukraine still have an army to defend itself, Ukraine still receive billions to defend itself, Ukraine don't have a famine, Ukraine doesn't have almost all it's school, , hospital destroyed and almost it's agricultural land damaged
I would definitely take it a step further call out the Israel defenders as pro-genocide.
Pro-genocide actor, child-groomer and "comedian" Jerry Seinfeld denounced the “Free Palestine” movement as antisemitic in a surprise appearance at a Tuesday Duke event, likening it to rhetoric from the Ku Klux Klan during his introduction of a former Israeli hostage.
I have long been of the opinion that if you read newspaper headlines like a WWF announcer, it really is indiscernible.
PRO-PALESTINE ACTORS ABSOLUTELY SLAM APARTHEID CLYDE, TAKING A SIXTY FOOT PLUNGE OFF OF HELL IN A CELL AND DIRECTLY ONTO AN ANNOUNCERS' TABLE!!!!! BAWGAWD, THAT'S TRUMP'S THEME MUSIC
Yea this is so stupid. This is not a sport. We're talking about human lives. As with everything in life, I'm pro-whatever brings the greatest good. I want both Israelis and Palestinians to live a good life, in dignity.
I always refer to my position as "against the genocide".
The position "I don't care about factions, group, tribes or whatever other fucked up up of reducing humans to labels, what I care about is innocent people being made to suffer" is surprisingly badly taken at times even around here.
I've had my posts swamped by downvotes at least once by saying "I not pro-Palestine, I'm pro-People" as if I have to favor factions rather than, you know, being against the victimization of people who did nothing to deserve it quite independently of whatever label they're tagged with.
Even people whose heart is in the right place nowadays seem to come at it from a "chose a faction" angle rather than from a Principled Humanist one.
It's way easier to manipulate people who support factions (just look at how the Zionists weaponized the support for the Jewish People) than it is to manipulate people who see things based on principles like "people who do no harm to others shouldn't be harmed" as the latter will judge actions based on their merits alone, not on the labels of the people involved.
I've had my posts swamped by downvotes at least once by saying "I not pro-Palestine, I'm pro-People" as if I have to favor factions rather than, you know, being against the victimization of people who did nothing to deserve it quite independently of whatever label they're tagged with.
I think part of the reason being pro-people makes others angry is because everyone is so polarized politically. A lot more people than usual are approaching politics expecting that you're either supporting my ideals or not supporting them. Which may as well be opposing them and opposing 'our' ideals is your moral failing. Nuance is gone, the political center is gone. At least until there are some serious changes.
God forbid we just generally think that genocide is bad no matter who it's done to or why.
I get the sentiment, but is this really true? Gotta be honest when I say that genocide of Nazis doesn’t bother me. There’s a case where it is accepted. It may be extremely small, but there’s still a case.
Exactly the same as the "trump isn't a REAL christian!".
No, he's a christian, funded by christian extremists.
Israel is a theocracy, and the homeland for the jewish religion. They're the head of the religion. So now you have "Israelis aren't REAL jews!" as a reaction. No. They're jewish, that's what the jewish religion is. That's what all religions do when they achieve theocracy. They start fighting other religions, genociding them, and create religious terror.
You would have thought that they would have learned from WWII about genocide and conservative religious nazi behavior - but if they can't learn it from that - no religion ever can.
It's just another genocidial religion. The time to stop giving them a pass when they started genociding a religion that was intent on genociding them. Instead of using diplomacy and rationality to achieve peace.
Right now, there’s a lot of pain and fear and grief in our interwoven communities. And as our multiracial, multi-faith movements rise in powerful solidarity with Palestinians, violent rightwing forces are going to try to divide us, attack us, and pit…
You should look up what we read on Shabbat Zakhor, you might be surprised.
Actually Supreme Court Justice David Mintz this year said: “Jewish law recognizes three justifications for war, to inherit the land, to destroy Amalek, and to defend against an attacker.” in defense of starving the Palestinians to death. To say that this situation has nothing to do with Judaism is beyond ridiculous. Now, where we get into antisemitic territory is when we say not only "all Jews think like this" but also "they think like this because they are Jews". There is a big difference and it is important.
I don't see anything surprising in what you describe. It is well known that Zionism uses Judaism as a tool for its settler colonialism for well over a century now. The Bund wrote anti-zionist songs at the time.
Clearly, Judaism and Zionism are not synonyms, nor have they ever been.
It is the Zionist state of Israel that tries to present Judaism and Zionism as synonyms. We shouldn't fall for Zionist propaganda / Israeli propaganda / Hasbara, call it as you want, these are synonyms. And this is why we need to call out both Zionism and antisemitism.
Saying that Israel is a theocracy (...) because this is what the Jewish religion is, not only is an uniformed statement, it is also an antisemitic one. Israel is a settler collonial theocracy because of Zionist principals. (And the support from the West - meaning, the decendents of the christians and/or europeans that were procecuting Jewish populations for centuries. I won't expand on this now.)
They never elaborate what kind of slam it was. I'm going to with a body slam. Could also be something like slamming their hand in a door. That's pretty bad too.
At this point, you don't even need to be pro-Palestine to be against the Gaza genocide. You just need to be against, you know, genocides. The bar is in the basement, even centrist Israeli liberal zionists are able to pass it. But somehow this is now "radical" politics.
Einbinder later told Variety that "it is my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel. Our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution that is separate to this sort of ethnonationalist state".
I eventually figured it out. I was searching in world@lemmy.ml—not world@lemmy.world. And the first time, I was looking in world@lemmy.world under 'Top Week', but didn't quite scroll down far enough lol. It was just out of range of the first page. If I had hit 'More Results' or whatever, it would have been the very first one. Whoopsiedoodle lol
Anyway, it would be better if the ml vs. world mistake were more difficult to make, but yeah, human error.
MSN links are annoying because they act as a wrapper for the content that another actual news site put out. Finding the original link is better for everyone, and it helps on the Lemmy side since then the UI can indicate cross posts with that correct link
I don't find as much value in news stories with "Trump says" in the headline. It helps in order to anticipate what kind of issues he might cause next, but otherwise I'd much rather read what actually happened instead of losing brain cells reading what trump said about it
Trump says a LOT of things. Most of what he says are outright lies, fantasies and make believe. A lot of it is plainly insulting. Way too much of it is unhinged blurps of words that makes little sense, even grammatically. Most of what he says leads to nothing at all.
Very little of what trump says is actually news worthy. Now what he does, on the other hand....
For decades, America has been the largest donor to Afghanistan, and in 2024, US funds made up a staggering 43% of all aid coming into the country.
The Trump administration has justified withdrawing it, saying there were "credible and longstanding concerns that funding was benefiting terrorist groups, including... the Taliban", who govern the country. The US government further added that they had reports stating that at least $11m were "being siphoned or enriching the Taliban".
The report that the US State Department referenced was made by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR). It said that $10.9m of US taxpayer money had been paid to the Taliban-controlled government by partners of USAID in "taxes, fees, duties, or utilities".
The Taliban government denies that aid money was going into their hands.
What happened in Afghanistan when/after the Americans pulled out is a fucking disaster that was talked about for way too short a time.
Add to that the more recent USAID cuts.
The worst thing is that all these cuts together are still peanuts compared to government bailouts, funding OpenAI, military, losses in tax revenue because multibillionaires etc.
Like, killing people is bad, but killing them just because you're cheap. Or greedy. Trump and his posse will juice the lemon called USA until it's completely dry, taking parts of the world with them.
America funded the weaponising of Afghanistan by creating radical extremism to fight a war with Russia, using the expendable Afghan lives of men, women and children. This led to the anticipated decades long devastation to infrastructure and civilization. But yes, no need to cover your mess America.
Um, why did USA pay anything to Afghanistan after they forcibly ejected everyone from the country? That happened in 2020-2021, and the payments just continuned?
So you actually needed Donald Trump to end that waste? What in the fuck?
It seems this asshole cares more about dollars he'll never be paid than the lives of mothers and children he'll never have to face.
The reason we didn't have much European terrorism after WW2 is because we invested in and rebuilt those countries after the war. Jesus Christ, you so-called fiscal conservatives never learn shit from history.
You know what's even dumber? That money you care so much about being "saved?" You'll never see a penny of it. That's all going to the ultrawealthy ruling class. They're going to steal all of it for themselves. "Steal!?" you object. Yes steal. Oh yes, they might remember to make it legal, probably by executive order or some shit.
That money would be better spent helping babies and mothers in Afghanistan survive childbirth than going to the already filthy rich. Frankly I'd rather have them get it than the likes of even you.
Let me guess, you think you're the next Charlie Kirk so we should have a "debate" now.
Don’t forget children advocating for the murder of a murderer and a rapist is against the rules. Definitely don’t advocate for the murder of a murderer
The Sado Mines, once famous as a gold mine in the 17th and 19th centuries, was mainly used to produce war supplies for the Japanese Imperial Army during World War II. More than 1,500 Koreans are reported to have been forced into labor at the mines from 1940-45.
In December 2023, this blog joined the fediverse (pt_BR). Thanks to a WordPress plugin — the publishing platform used by Manual do Usuário — it became possible to follow updates here without leaving…
This does remind me that I wish that Fediverse clients would have RSS reader functionality built in by default. I have a sneaking suspicion some do and I just don't know how to use the feature. Effectively allowing people to "boost" aka repost with backlink RSS updates on a Fediverse client would enable most of what a blogger would want from the Fediverse, with the exception of receiving all the comments on the posts they share.
Bridgy does that, but then it is essentially just a mirror so it does have the server inefficiency of redundant hosting built in.
That you might say is the fundamental design decision of Activity pub, shifting the hosting burden from a single host to a distributed network of server instances. This enables a more robust network, with instances holding content the users have interacted with regardless of if the original host instance goes down. It also reduces time to load for content after it has beed federated to a user's local instance, assuming it is closer in proximity and capable enough. At the same time, this makes content ownership and control a challenge.
Functionally the Fediverse is a public commons with content ownership practically distributed across the network of instances, whether copyright says so or not. Attempts to impose universal author controls on this framework face a lot of dissonance because it is fundamentally at odds with the underlying concept of federation as distributed hosting. The minute a host begins hosting content over which they have no control (such as encrypted posts) the potential for abuse skyrockets.
Since the popularization of the Distributed Social Network concept I have wondered whether pre-existing content distribution infrastructure like RSS might not be more advantageous as a backbone for social networking, with the development load entirely shifted to the client side and away from protocols. The IndieWeb project is playing with some of these ideas, and I have seen some prototypes online of RSS based social networks, so my question is, what is the fundamental advantage of ActivityPub over the combination of these other existing protocols with longer histories and broader existing implementation? RSS, email, XMPP, etc. Is lower latency really a good enough justification for widely redundant data distribution?
This question becomes increasingly relevant when it comes to multimedia, and the minute that you offload multimedia to central servers by link embedding instead of hosting within the instance, boom you are back to the old centralized architecture and why are you federating?
So I am going to pose this question to the Fediverse myself, what is the reason that federated content distribution should be adopted for general use rather than distributed aggregation? That is to say of a client performed with the same features as a Fediverse front end, but all of the content was self-hosted and listed via RSS or Atom with comments handled via Webmention, direct messages via email or XMPP, and moderation handled at the level of aggregation via instances (meaning a user "joins" or "subscribes" to an instance, and that instance provides a ban list, list of feeds subscribed to by its users for discovery, provides a user directory) what would be the features that this type of system would lack that ActivityPub based systems have in place?
There are three advantages I see, and I'm not completely sure they justify mass adoption vs. the cost of broad redundancy of content and authorship issues.:
Choosing local instance for faster loading, but this only is an advantage after content is brought in for the first time, in which case it actually is slower as first the instance has to pull the cintent and then serve it to the user.
"all" content in the protocol is of the same type, allowing for easier interoperability between clients and services. I'm thinking this is the root of what most people will say is the big advantage of ActivityPub vs. older protocols, but I'd like to hear more about why this is enough of a reason to overcome the inertia of existing mass adoption and support of the alternatives.
It isn't based in XML, and modern devs don't want to use XML. As I'm not a coder, I cant say how big an influence this has, but from what I have seen it seems to be a substantial factor. Can anyone explain why?
Some interesting thoughts - and questions - here. Seems you posted them in the wrong place, given the paltry response. Or possibly at the wrong time (i.e. 6 hours after the herd had moved on, a perennial problem with social media).
It isn’t based in XML, and modern devs don’t want to use XML. As I’m not a coder, I cant say how big an influence this has, but from what I have seen it seems to be a substantial factor. Can anyone explain why?
XML is space-inefficient with lots of redundancy, and therefore considered to be ugly. Coders tend to have tidy minds so these things take on an importance that they don't really merit. It's also just fashion: markup, like XML and HTML, is a thing of the 90s, so using them is the coder equivalent of wearing MC Hammer pants.
Thanks for clarifying, I figured fashion had at least something to do with it given the number of actively used protocols and services that still use it, XMPP being the one I use the most myself.
Even on XMPP I have seen several projects to "translate" the protocol into other languages (specifically Rust in one).
Efficiency makes sense, but then also the number of devs proficient in a language due to shifts in the emphasis of training and education is just as strong a force.
Most Blogs require you to create an account and login to your specific blog. I ain't doin that. But if it appears in my feed on my account that I control, I might throw in my $0.02, which will improve engagement on your blog.
In practice, ActivityPub’s distributive nature replicates content across a multitude of servers (every server where someone follows the blog), which, while not catastrophic here, is at least inefficient.
I mean, that's kinda the point though, also. Any federated product will do the same.
Given that — and the fact that few people follow and almost nobody interacts via ActivityPub — I’ve been considering removing Manual from the fediverse for several months.
I mean, that's fair, but also, what is it costing you to keep it? You're greatly improving visibility of your blog.
I think a more interesting question is why there aren't major US TV news sources between Fox News and the center, occupying the area that the three-more-liberal-kids wanted to take Fox News.
To the right of Fox News, you have upstarts One America News Network and Newsmax.
During the 2020 United States presidential election, President Trump began to promote Newsmax over its rival, Fox News.[80][81][82][83] Trump's preference for Newsmax over Fox News became clearer after the latter became the first news outlet to call Arizona for Democratic challenger Joe Biden.[42] Newsmax has made their more conservative leanings a selling point to disaffected Fox News viewers, as well as employing Fox News alumni to join their lineup on Newsmax TV, such as Rob Schmitt and Greg Kelly.[42][84][43] Emily VanDerWerff of Vox reported that the outlet "spent lots of time arguing that other media outlets jumped the gun in calling the election for Biden and that Trump still has a path to win this thing", and that it was one of the only networks that didn't call the election for Biden, citing the Trump campaign's legal challenges. However, she did write that "Newsmax doesn't go full arch-conservative" and "doesn't give airtime to QAnon paranoiacs".[46]
OAN saw growth in its audience as a result of its election coverage. It was boosted in particular by Donald Trump, who expressed disapproval of Fox News' reporting on the presidential election and encouraged his supporters to instead watch OAN or Newsmax TV, another conservative channel promoting election falsehoods.[150][151][152]
In the US, there there are a pretty broad range of media outlets on the left. On the right, things are considerably more concentrated. There's a bunch of data out there on this, but just to dig up a quick recent Pew survey:
All religions are far right extremists. No free thought or speech, only their ficitonal god, and all their hate. Literally thoudands of years of history showing exactly that.
As long as they are allowed to spread nazi propanda, there will be nazis killing your children, or doing everything they can to get them in their weird death cult.
While most of this post is about Blacksky, there are a couple of sections that focus on the fediverse -- "And yet..." and "A great learning opportunity for the ActivityPub Fediverse"
It's a platform using AT Proto (the protocol Bluesky uses), independent but still connected (think about Lemmy instances). That way they can apply their own moderation policies and don't have to follow Bluesky censorship.
I've disabled invite codes for signing up or migrating to the blacksky.app Personal Data Server (PDS).
The invite codes were necessary to prevent en masse bot signups.
We've since turned on captchas and added rate limiting to the server.
independent but still connected (think about Lemmy instances)
It's not really connected in the same sense two Lemmy instances are connected. They're able to pull in the same data as Bluesky as it's all public and PDSs don't really have the ability to block a relay from crawling them.
At the app level (blacksky.community / bsky.app on the web) it's more like TweetDeck/Twitter: different client interfaces to the same underlying network. That's not a perfect analogy though because Blacksky makes different moderation decisions than Bluesky.
But also, people using either of these apps can store their data in arbitrary PDSs, so when people migrate their accounts to the Blacksky PDS they can use either of the apps. So there it's more like Piefed/Lemmy -- different implementations of the same protocol. Again though it's not a perfect analogy because the AT Protocol architecture lets you migrate all your data between PDSs seamlessly, and so far only a few niche ActivityPub implementations support that (Hubzilla et al with nomadic identity, ActivityPods using Solid Pods).
Oh, I thought blacksky.comnunity used Blacksky's relay. If it uses Bluesky's then yeah, disregard what I said.
That's not a perfect analogy though because Blacksky makes different moderation decisions than Bluesky.
I'd hope so given how abysmal Bluesky's moderation is. The discovery feed is filled with transphobia, but you can't say Charlie Kirk should rest in piss.
Again though it's not a perfect analogy because the AT Protocol architecture lets you migrate all your data between PDSs seamlessly, and so far only a few niche ActivityPub implementations support that (Hubzilla et al with nomadic identity, ActivityPods using Solid Pods).
I don't believe Hubzilla's nomatic identity works with APub though, irrc it uses something called Zot.
I've been thinking about how to add nomatic identity to Lemmy quite a bit and it's something I'd like to work on after 1.0 is out, but it's hard a problem for sure.
Yeah, Bluesky's moderation really is abysmal. Somebody I know got suspended for 24 hours for saying something about Charlie Kirk and when they came back immediately moved their account to Blacksky ... and who can blame them!
Right now blacksky.community is an app that uses Bluesky's AppView, which in turn uses Bluesky's Relay. They're working on their own AppView (which will have the equivalent of local-only posts) and that will use their Relay. I didn't mean to undercut your point though, they often talk about PDSs as analogous to web pages, so your "different search engines" analogy is very accurate, it's just not quite there yet.
And good point about Hubzilla ... if I recall correctly either in (((streams))) or Forte (or maybe both) MIke implemented the nomadic identity over ActivityPub as well. It's really frustrating that AP development in general hasn't paid more attention to his ideas! If you're thinking about this kind of stuff for Lemmy, it's also worth looking at socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/…
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Right now blacksky.community is an app that uses Bluesky’s AppView, which in turn uses Bluesky’s Relay. They’re working on their own AppView (which will have the equivalent of local-only posts) and that will use their Relay.
Interesting, from what I understand of ATProto, this would be hard to do on protocol, it'll be fascinating to see how they do it. Maybe something off protocol like the recent bookmark feature Bluesky got.
I didn’t mean to undercut your point though, they often talk about PDSs as analogous to web pages, so your “different search engines” analogy is very accurate, it’s just not quite there yet.
I'd love to take credit for this, but the ATProto docs themselves make this comparison which is where I'm getting this from.
if I recall correctly either in (((streams))) or Forte (or maybe both) MIke implemented the nomadic identity over ActivityPub as well
This sent me down a bit a of a rabbit hole. It seems (streams) used an updated version of Zot, Zot/11 but was renamed to just Nomad. I can't find anything about this, the (streams) repo only contains the spec for Zot/6, so I'm not sure about it's APub compatibility. Apparently, Nomad had been discontinued in Forte in favour of pure APub, anyway.
Oh, I know about Silverpill's work, it's really interesting! I even mentioned it recently. I'm glad we have someone smart like them working on this stuff.
I do think some kind of separation of user data from servers, like what AT Proto does, is actually quite desirable. I just don't like that PDSes can have their data harvested by whoever, I think data sharing with a server should be opt-in.
Also agreed that sharing should be opt-in (and here on fedi as well).
In terms of Blacksky's approach to private data, Rudy shared this earlier today blog.smokesignal.events/posts/… ... the working group on private data is having its first meeting this week, and there are a couple of other proposals as well, so it'll be interesting to see how things converge. Bluesky has said they're going to add it to the protocol but the timeframe isn't clear. My guess is people will go ahead with off-protocil implementations initally and plan to adapt once it's standardized (famous last words).
According to Seoul’s foreign ministry, Landau conveyed his deep regrets over the detention of hundreds of South Korean workers in an immigration crackdown earlier this month at an electric vehicle battery plant construction site for a joint venture between Hyundai Motor Group and LG Energy Solution in Bryan County, Georgia.
A total of 316 South Korean workers returned home Friday, after being held in a detention center for a week.
Tijdens een optreden in Amsterdam riep het Britse duo zaterdag leuzen als "dood aan de IDF". Ook noemden ze de deze week vermoorde radicaal-rechtse Amerikaan Charlie Kirk "een stuk stront".
Racists are just tools of the super rich using them, religious, the ignorant disaffected, etc.
After they consolidate power they will be relegated with the rest of the population. They are being used because they are ill-informed, but they are not the ones pulling the strings, not the ones calling and running the plays here. It is moneyed interests doing that
If I honestly thought that you could expand your horizons I would be very interested in describing to you how China shares the same desires for the United States as MAGA has for the United States. But I think you and I both know that you have a much more than casual love for China. You will just have to put the pieces together yourself.
dafuq? i'm saying china is a genocidal imperial regime all the time. i guess if your standard is that anyone who wants to tank the united states is maga i get the joke. just didn't realize what you were saying
American MAGAs also don't really want American greatness if it involves immigrants, minorities, or liberals having a good life there. Their love of America and goals for its greatness are VERY selective, all the way to founding values like freedom of speech, separation of powers, and separation of church and state.
It's really just fascism. And fascism, for all its claims to be country-first, is an international reactionary effort.
The performance was held at the Paradiso Grote Zaal. The venue released a statement on Sunday saying it “believed in the power of artistic freedom”.
“Music – and especially punk – is an art form that traditionally magnifies anger, discontent, and injustice without a filter,” it said.
“In a world on fire, artists sometimes choose language that sounds confrontational or violent.”
Addressing the singer’s calls for the death of IDF troops, the venue said it shared “the outrage and concern surrounding the genocidal violence taking place in Gaza” and that “Bob Vylan’s raising his voice against this is legitimate and necessary”.
Punk has always been anti-fascist because fascists and punks compete for the same follower base, and overlap is unavoidable unless one side draws a very hard line about what's acceptable.
The fascists want to be able to say whatever they want under 1st amendment, but have always lost their shit when people say the same shit about fascists the fascists say about innumerable target demographics.
"death death to the idf" =/= "death to idf troops"
and i'm tired of outlets reporting on it like it is. the man was saying the idf is a criminal organization that needs to be resisted and disbanded. yeah, that's gonna result in some fighting because the idf are a violent and vile organization of oppressors, but in the context, "death death to the idf" is the only reasonable stance…
IDF is an org though, and he said death to that. it reads pretty clearly as bing about bringing about an end to the org to me an. the other read relies too heavily on a dictionary definition than on the types of allegory rappers engage in. but as you said, maybe that's just me
TF?! If that happened to you FordBeeblebrox I’m surprised my post (which included verbatim quotes from thumb no-head baby teeth) wasn’t also taken down. 🤷🤷🤷
Enjoyer of political violence falls victim to political violence. Oh no! /s
If these guys were themselves pacifists who prided themselves on giving every idea a fair hearing, I guess I would have a problem with any assassinations. As it is, there's just one side trying to unilaterally manifest a certain level of civility. One that unfortunately doesn't seem to exist.
Edit: I believe this complies with rule 6. Lack of concern about violence isn't the same thing as advocacy.
Well, the Right is trying to make Kirk into a new Horst Wessel figure, so I'm registering this is as a based attempt to keep the Overton Window at its current position.
There absolutely is justification for violence, political or otherwise. To say there is none is a violators way of ensuring they can continue to violate unchecked. Tagging politics as a motivator for such violence is also a misdirection. Hate is not political, race is not political. What makes them seem political is the fact that they are accepted and pushed by our elected officials. Those officials fully believe they are and should be immune to any repercussions for what they do and say. This belief is what gives them the will to ignore the protests and laws on the books that go against their wishes. What other option does anyone have but to show them in the strongest way possible that they are destroying everything they touch?
the post I had commented this on was deleted so I'm going to put it here for no reason.
I hold the following opinions:
political violence is probably a bad idea. this is for multiple reasons, one of which being that it usually doesn't create the intended effects.
charlie kirk might have been the worst piece of shit commentator of that era. i'm glad he shut the fuck up.
there are a lot of political commentators like him. the benefit of having one less of them is overshadowed by the detriment of the reaction to a political assassination.
his family is the absolute least of my concerns. i don't think about them at all.
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I’ve been using a flip phone as my daily driver for a while now. The smartphone is still around, but it mostly sits in a drawer until bureaucracy or banking apps force me to use it.
For me, the benefits are clear: less distraction, more focus, better sleep. But I know for many people it’s not so easy. Essential apps, social pressure, work requirements… these are real blockers.
I’d like to start a discussion (almost like an informal poll):
If you thought about switching, what’s the single biggest thing that holds you back?
Is it banking? Messaging? Maps? Something else?
I’m genuinely curious because if we can identify the main pain points, maybe it’s possible to work on solutions or even start a small project around it.
So: what would need to change for you to actually give a flip phone a try?
Mama was right: Smartphones are frying our brains. App locks, screentime reminders, digital detoxes: we’ve tried them all. Nothing sticks because honestly? We’r
There really isn’t anything I couldn’t replace my phone with a tablet that stays in the house for, and it has been a growing thought to switch back to a dumb phone.
I just did. If you get any text messages about your upcoming penis surgery tomorrow, know it's legit! (Are they removing one, or adding one? Doesn't matter, I'm sure they'll figure it out...)
There's a terminology issue here, feature phones run apps, flip phones and true dumb phones shouldn't run apps or have any data connections. But it seems more common now to draw the line at Smartphone and anything else is "dumb" even if it's basically just a 2008 smartphone.
Stuff I use the phone for in rough order of importance: - maps and GPS - messaging (signal) - emulators and other quality games (none of that candy crush slop) - ebook reading - Wikipedia / quick research - Lemmy
I could drop lemmy from mobile because it's just a time waster and news source.
Wikipedia is important because too often people are interminably arguing something that can be settled with a 30 second search. Like, you don't need to spend 5 minutes arguing about the population of NJ just look it up.
Games are nice. I don't want to go back to carrying around a second device for games like it's 2001. I could bring a steam deck everywhere but that doesn't fit in my pocket.
I don't have any notifications turned on except like direct messages, so I don't find it much of a distraction.
i have only ever had basic phones, dating back to my first nokia ~ 25 years ago. i don't have the need or desire to have an android or iphone. one time. just once, ever--i enabled cellular data on my phone so i could look something up--the current weather forecast (in the kai weather 'app') because it started to look like i might get stranded out in a bad storm and i forgot to check the forecast before i left.
Literally just having a hotspot built in is keeping me on android. The lappy goes where I go, and that means as long as I have internet access I'm as connected as I could ever want to be.
Basically everyone has wifi, usually available after. I might just go out and get an unlocked dumbphone this week honestly.
Edit: yes I know about the mp02, its on the wishlist. I haven't had a job in over a year so I won't be getting it yet.
I personally dont think you need to switch to a dumb phone to get those benefits, smartphones themselves arent what's causing issues its what you're using. You want less distraction just stop using those apps or turn off push notifications.
Þere are oþer reasons to want a dumber phone. I miss charging my phone once a week, vs 1-2 times per day. I have a bendy-screen flip phone now, but before þese became available, it was hard to get a reasonably sized phone; þe trend was (and still is) phablets. I miss having þe expectation þat my phone would last for years, and not need upgrading because þe screen broke, or because þe OS stopped being updated, or because OS upgrades got more and more bloated and made þe phone slower and unusable over time. I miss þe time before an upgrade would completely fuck established muscle memory patterns because some dumb-shit decided to completely rearrange gestures - requiring an internet search to uncover þe byzantine, cryptic configuration combination to restore þe old behavior.
It's much more þan distractions.
OTOH, I need Jami to communicate wiþ my peer group, because SMS is insecure and incredibly basic. Navigation in your hand is incredibly useful, even þough it's been shown to ruin users' geospatial skills. And smarter address books are better þan old dumb-phone name+phone number address books.
But if I could get a decent, small e-ink phone, wiþ good battery, Jami, an address book, and hell, just a simple browseable map (even w/o navigation), I'd be golden. Jami is þe sticking point, because it introduces a dependency on Android, and þat's where þe fuckery starts.
Yeah, alongside that. Phones also have focus mode, digital wellbeing to limit usage of distracting apps. You can even turn on super power saving mode to limit phone use further and use it for basic functions like phones, messages, web browsing, etc.
I started on a privacy journey because I didn't like that I'm being tracked (by basically everybody) and feel that the technology that I pay for should be service to me, not me as a service to it (and its related parties).
Anyways, along the way I did a few things. Namely, I turned off mail notifications (this was an inadvertent feature since my mail service couldn't send notifications without google services that I removed). I also removed my sim and use data only via a hotspot, to which I don't always have on. These sound like crazy things, and admittedly they aren't for everyone, but the resulting mental shifts are exactly to this point.
Just because I have a device that let's me be available to anybody in any place at any time, doesn't mean I should be, or even need to be, available unless I want to be.
Now I protect my time, and the mental clarity that comes with it. I never was a doom scroller, but even now that concept is even more reduced. The phone is my tool, and I use when needed.
Right, absolutely. I use almost no apps for anything, I just use my phone’s browser for the web sites I want, and have a specific few non-privacy-invasive apps for other things (Voyager for here, Signal for messaging, password manager, etc) and have zero reason I would ever want to give up that functionality to do what, make CALLS? I don’t do that shit. Text message? Nah.
My parents and all their friends used to use PTT with their Nextel phones. It was a super handy feature. I wonder why it fell out of style. Seemed more convenient and less tedious than a phone call for short communications.
There are both open source and commercial apps that do PTT over internet. It turns phones into radio, it even has the capability to have central radio operation rooms for companies and such. It's all automated.
I can't get these people to use Signal instead of SMS.
But nothing internet dependent will turn a phone into a radio. We are in places where even 4G doesn't reach sometimes and if there was a Motorola repeater onsite it'd be great. I've got our company trying it out and the SL300 has been a game changer for our communication on site.
My first cell phone was a flip phone, and I'm not gonna lie, I've considered revisiting my teenage days again and getting one. But I feel like, right now, my smartphone use is very light.
I avoid Meta apps, I don't play mobile games, my biggest vice was reddit which has now become a shithole of bots and censorship so I don't go on there anymore. I read the news on here, chat a little on Discord, check my birdfeeder and that's pretty much it besides occasional use of google maps as needed.
On top of that, this phone is from 2018 so its battery life these days is not great. I think that helps too.
Maybe for those hesitating to get a dumb phone, perhaps start with an older smartphone to whittle your time down?
As someone who always had some kind of PDA (CASIO digital diary, Palm, Compaq iPaq) and switched onto the smartphone bandwagon pretty early (SonyEricsson P800/P910i, Qtek 9000, various Androids and various iPhones) ... I don't think I could enjoy the experience with a dumb phone. I love modern technology too much.
I once had a colleague that religiously only used a Nokia 3210 (the newer 3G/4G model). Which meant 160 character messages only. No emojis, no photos (as MMS were expensive). He was also the kind of person to use paper maps when driving - incl. stopping to look for alternative routes if some road was blocked or jammed. That's definitely not for me.
The only way this could work for me would be to have some small PDA that can connect to the phone to use the Internet. And I appreciate that both devices have been merged into smartphones at some point.
It's weird reading the responses. Our society has pushed smartphones down our throats that people can't imagine living without one. They name things they "need" when in reality it's all convenience in some form or another. All the while the true purpose of these devices is to listen, serve ads and feed on our insecurities, fears and anger.
"our society has pushed smart phones down our throats"
smartphones evolved from older methods of just getting through the day. taking notes, listening to music, calandars, date books, libraries, files, methods of communication.
you make the assumption that everyone is a slave to their device just because it's a smart device.
some of us were alive before smart phones existed. and we'd prefer not to go back in tech. and would instead prefer the devices we have now.
I second this. No one forced me. Even when work tried to force me to use smartphone 2FA it was easy enough to say "I'm not putting any f-ing micrsoft crap on my phone", they found a workaround - magically they could just use the basic telephone network to do the 2FA.
I chose to get one because it's more convenient than having phone, walkman, camera, book, torch , map, compass etc. I still carry many of those things from time to time when I want them, or when I want extra resilience. But I's choose the phone most times because it is a cheap, lightweight, small, convenient alternative that makes so many things just a bit easier.
Bloody hell just faffing around with walkman batteries and recording compilation tapes was annoying enough.
It's also very easy to just leave your phone behind and use the alternatives, they pretty much all still exist in some form. I mean that happens to me regularly whenever I lose my phone of when I forget to charge it or (partly) when I'm just out of range of the celluar network. I don't remember either dying or having any police jump on me and force me to buy a new one or charge it up immediately.
I dint do calls often at all, so a flip/dumb phone doesn't appeal to me much. However, i have been very tempted to upgrade my existing smart watch to one with LTE connectivity and skip the smart phone completely.
The Apple watch, for instance, with LTE can do maps/directions, calls, texts, etc., without needing a smartphone near by. It would be much less to carry, less distractions, and way more convenient.
The big thing it can't currently do, however, is MFA for my job. It can do Authy and many others, but the one we require doesn't work, I've tried many times, so I'm stuck carrying a smartphone around if I want to remain employed.
I’m mostly using my phone as an all in one multimedia device I can fit in my pocket.
I don’t see the flip phone as a good replacement for this kind of use. It wasn’t back in those days either. We used dedicated MP3 players or portable radio for music listening for example.
you couldn't pay me to go backwards in time, sorry!
see I was around before the age of the smartphone. growing up, I thought my cassette Walkman was the most revolutionary thing ever. and when PDAs were new, I would dreaammm about everything being on one electronic device.
smart phones have given me a freedom that younger me never had.
i no longer need to carry a notebook/memobook around, because I have powerful software on my phone that not only let's me note-take, but index and SEARCH my own notes. from my pocket.
i don't need to carry the 3 novels im reading at the moment because they're on the ereader app in my pocket.
contacts, games, all my news sources, photos, videos, all my media.
to me, this is still revolutionary tech and it has only improved my life
i think we are seeing a rise now of adults who were raised as iPad kids who never had to carry all their shit around the way us older individuals have. so they naturally would want to get away from it because they've known no different and they never had to live another way before that point.
its an understandable mentality from that one standpoint. but no, I will never give up my smart phone. i understand the reasons for those that do, but some of us don't really want to go backwards.
Camera is probably the first obstacle. I've got a kid, and I really want to have good documentation of her growing up. If there were a dumbphone with a legit camera, that'd be a big deal for me.
After that, probably maps is the next most important thing that I want an actual smart phone for. I remember getting my first smart phone, and probably the main thing I was excited about was always being able to navigate directly to where I wanted to go.
I highly recommend just getting a real camera. The pictures I took with my camera 11 years ago are still better quality than an iPhone can manage today. Modern cameras are far far better.
this guy, with the "real" camera and the phone camera, but the phone camera is the one I've most consistently got on me, because I can't lug a whole additional piece of hardware around in a camera bag, meanwhile the phone camera pictures are grainy and shitty, and I'd just as soon have a Pixel in my pocket at all times that can take fairly good pictures at all times.
Realistically, cameras can be put into two categories - they either effortlessly fit in your pocket, or don't, and any that don't tend to get left home unless you intend to specifically go take photos. Doesn't really matter how much bigger it is at that point. And if you have a high end smartphone, you probably can't get a camera that fits in your pocket that would be significantly better.
As the saying goes, the best camera is the one you have with you.
maybe you can reasonably throw into a handbag. but it quickly became a logistical nightmare, with how you're essentially stuck with cheap/kit lens (to make it small enough) and humidity is also a deal breaker.
also, would you want to abuse a not-cheap APS-C camera that way? I wouldn't lol
Pretty much nothing i use my phone for can be done on a flip phone. Smartphone is no distraction for me - I just use it when I need it to do something for me.
maps - occasionally GPS. mp3 player mp4s watching on long train / bus rides or when camping. large sd card (500gb) memrise/ language learning app. occasionally guitar tuner occasionally internet is useful for checking events, buying tickets, checking for hotels and stuff. occasionally checking emails. occasionally playing mindustry (when i want my battery to die).
I don't carry a laptop most of the time that i'd need for most of that stuff above. TBH - I can't use many other apps anyway because I don't want GPS or microG installed - so I'm mostly just f-droid apps.
Edit - i'd also prefer something like simpleX to SMS, but I don't actually know anyone else who uses it - so not an issue really. I just have to SMS.
No decent (local) music player, no DSP, no music streaming with newpipe, decent video player to watch series in bed, screen too small to read books, no e2ee messaging, no web browser, useless camera, operating system without security updates.
I honestly couldn't care less about calls and SMS, I only use that like few times a year.
I use my iPhone for a ton of different things. I pretty much never use it to make calls and hate talking on the phone (which is what flip phones are optimized for).
No way. Life is way better with smart phones. Tap to pay, maps, always having a camera, always having my notes, working as a mobile hotspot, controlling my home security system. 25 other things.
This stuff used to be so much harder. I’m not going back.
I will freely admit there are some dangerous addictive and invasive aspects to it also. I’m ruthless about what apps I will grant permissions to. And I don’t browse the App Store getting tempted by their promises.
I think the appeal of our phones not having to be a computer and not needing all the same rigor and paranoia and extra steps of a computer was really exciting. But it hasn’t turned out to be true. So now I treat it like a computer and approach everything with that level of skepticism. And also treat it like the gateway to capitalism that it is and I am skeptical of anything that’s trying to take my data or money. I think with the right attitude it’s a net positive device in my life
Speaking as someone who never has carried a smartphone, there are a bunch of tradeoffs. I do my banking in person, for instance, and that can be mildly inconvenient. I don't take a lot of photographs (when I do, I use an old-style single-purpose camera). "Portable media" is a CD player, and I carry a paperback book if I think I might have to wait somewhere for more than ten minutes or so. And so on. Just continuing to live the same way as I did a quarter-century ago.
I expect, however, that it's a lot easier not to miss what you never had in the first place.
All of that, plus the benefits of having a good pocket camera to carry around - spontaneous photography is my thing and having a good camera phone solves that equation nicely.
And before anyone says "get a real camera", I have real cameras and there's no way they can be carried in my pocket the same way a smartphone does lol. That and the smaller they get, the further image quality worsens to the point where you might just use a (good camera) phone instead.
I grew up with dumb phones, and you couldn't pay me enough to go back to using them - they suck!
Doesn't really make much sense for me to switch to a flip phone unless it was specifically built for privacy/security. SMS and regular voice calls are insecure, it likely could connect to fake cell towers uninhibited, it likely doesn't have hardware switches to disconnect various features e.g. modem, microphone, or camera.
I’ve lived through the cell phone invention, to flip phones, to smartphones. They were terrible back then and I doubt that’s changed now.
Now, I do understand the reason why you moved back to one. For me, I just got aggressive about notifications and turned off most of them. I stopped social media tied to friends and family and am selective about what I’m on and for how long. Takes more personal willpower (or whatever) but you do get used to it in the long run and feel better.
Not at all. It's really hard to live without the practical features of a smartphone, like web browsing and maps. What I need is privacy, not to throw it all away for a dumbphone.
I believe a lot of the benefits you claim dumbphones provide are all caused by abandoning social media. There's nothing wrong with technology, it's just social media. You don't need to use a dumbphone just to escape social media.
Same. My "smartphone" usage is about 10% phone, 10% SMS service, 10% camera, 5% flashlight, 10% GPS + Map tool, 15% e-mail, and 40% web browser... I carried a pretty capable flip phone from 2006-2013, the things I liked best about it were its longevity and its long battery life (up to a week on standby, 3-4 days even with normal usage.) However, even upgraded with GPS capability, the small screen would have made for a poor map experience, and e-mail and web browser were just out of its practical reach.
Stop browsing social media, maybe install Tor if you want that level of privacy - Smartphones can do that...
I simply wouldn't. A dumbphone does mostly the things I don't use a phone for.
And I don't mean fortnite and tickytocks, I've grown up through (most) of the history of mobile phones, I started with my mothers old Nokia 2110 back in like... 1998? I remember how awesome it was to finally have a phone, then to be able to get the bus schedules with the painfully slow WAP connection so I didn't have to call home, then to have navigation, replace the mp3 player, camera, and eventually even mostly my laptop.
I want to have a datapad with access to all the devices and information in my pocket at all times. If I need it to do something, I know there's an app for it probably. It's awesome.
I'd really prefer that the datapad wouldn't then leech all of my information in return, though. Oh, and bring back physical keyboards. I'd give my left nut for an HTC Desire Z with 2025 hardware.
Yes, I had to delete lemmy, reddit, twitter, mastodon, all games etc.
But I see 0 harm in: - 2FA authenticator apps (google authenticator, app for government ID, bank, ...) - DHL (unlocks packing station / parcel distributing machine here) - calendar (with voice assistant) - Pixel, iPhone, Samsung and some others are a fantastic camera! 10 years ago, it'd be a great deal just for that one feature. I used to pay USD/EUR 250 - 500 for a hobby-level camera that was worse - read my mobile CO2 sensor - not crucial, but occasionally show someone something in a video call - send injured animal photo / video right to the wildlife rescue station for advice (~ 2x per year) - plain old mp3 player - some might read eBooks, which is a good use of it, but I still prefer a hardcopy
So yes, on my 2nd smartphone only (first in 2021), but I find that it's worth it these days.
Enshittification intensifies, but a Linux phone might become very viable in a few years, especially when LLM adapters become easier to use. Self-hosted alternatives to google/apple photos are already very advanced.
The benefits of having a full-featured computer in my pocket are just too many for me to ditch it permanently if I have a choice. While it's certainly able to distract me if I let it, I don't think I've ever had it disrupt my sleep (aside from late night phone calls).
I think it's better for most (and potentially easier) to keep to the smartphone and just better control the applications that are on it and the notifications that they raise to make sure it isn't overly distracting you. This may require disabling certain pre-installed apps (e.g. Facebook is one I always disable and just interact with via browser when I want to). Another pattern to follow is adding barriers to the things that distract you most so it takes a little more effort to interact with your distractions. Hank Green's Focus Friend app that got popular recently is an example of that -- placing an emotional barrier on getting distracted when you need to focus.
But ultimately, we all need to do what's best for ourselves. Everyone's suceptibility to distraction is different and if a dumbphone is what works best for you, then by all means, go with that for as long as it's useful.
My "smart" phone is rarely used as a telephone. It's set to silent, all notifications turned off, blocks unknown numbers, transcribes voicemail and spends most of the day as a window to the world.
I'm not sure what, if anything, a "dumb" phone would add to my life, except more interruption, more administration to keep contacts up to date, and yet another device to charge and maintain.
presumably having a dumb phone that only does calls and maybe texts can help you stay in contact / reachable but without the possible distractions of the phone itself.
Headphone jack. I just can't say this enough, despite the fact I have apple's wireless earbuds (of some clique name) in my pocket at this very second. Headphone jack.
Don't ask for it for yourself. Ask for it for the d-bag sharing music of some guy grunting over a drum track on the bus. We need to save him from the damage to his reputation when his friends remind him they knew he listened to such trash later when he needs to deny it.
Does it actually happen? How so? I never had any bank or anything else force me to use a phone, so I am having hard time imagining that. So I am genuinely curious about this portion of your message.
2 factor authentication via app/texting I'd imagine.
An authenticator app is better than basically anything but a physical token / key generator, but the apps are more universally supported. No one is probably going to spoof your phone number to get into your accounts.... But doesn't hurt to me more secure about it anyway.
I am using a YubiKey for those (with a desktop authenticator app). Oddly enough, I do that because I do not trust Android/iPhone to stay secure. I actually trust them even less than a plain old SMS-based auth.
I tried a lot of things to keep my phone/screen usage down.l, including a dump phone. One day I got this brilliant idea to shut my phone off. That was way more efficient than any of the tricks I tried. When I need it for something I turn it on. I've since removed most fun apps from the thing.
I still have one game that I play, Lemmy, RSS and web browsers. Apart from those it's mostly a bureaucracy machine with messaging, email, banking, MFA, work stuff, maps, lots of apps for managing tickets (it's actually ridiculous), life trackers for some board games. Music, audiobooks and podcasts.
The smart phone is a convenient device that makes my life easier. I don't whis to handicap myself when I can just turn the phone off instead. I also like to leave the phone at home if for instance I'm going to a party at a well known location.
A flip phone/dumbphone would sort of be mutually exclusive with my use case. I use my smartphone nearly exclusively as a lightweight mobile computer for web browsing, SSHing into my server, and messaging over internet (not SMS). I rarely use the "phone" features of my phone, i.e. phone calls and SMS. So I'd be losing out over the features I do use, in favour of features I don't use.
If you're being distracted by your phone and a dumbphone works for you, good on you. I think most people are like me and use their phones as a small mobile computer rather than a phone though, in which case distractions are best handled with one of the many apps/browser add-ons/etc that block websites or apps.
I thought about switching, but instead I uninstalled social media apps and started using it more like an e-reader/MP3 player/messenger. It's worked pretty well! Been reading a ton in the last year. I may be addicted to fanfiction now though.
Google maps navigation, web browsing, YouTube, music streaming, WhatsApp, email, social media apps for entertainment, news apps, notes app, to do app, public transit app, ebook and audiobook apps, utility apps, good camera, good screen, good speakers.
If I consider all this there is just no way to go back to the old school flip phones or the candy bar phones with the T9 keypad for me, best thing I can do is hide all the apps I don't want to be distracted by, put app locks on the addictive ones and just be mindful of the time I spend on my phone and figure out other ways to spend my time like dedicated ebook readers or paper books and other activities
I think so too, there are so many useful tools on a phone, nobody has to use social media and apps that have a bad influence instead of just being practical and useful.
I have a minimalistic home screen with essential apps and all else is in folders for ex.
what would need to change for you to actually give a flip phone a try?
For me to start using my phone as the main way of my computing needs and entertainment needs. Which I don't. I only use it to send messages and read when my laptop is not in my hands. So I essentially have a not-so-smartphone, not-so-dumbphone.
My understanding is that flip phones only do calls and sms ? So I never call or text.. Only thing I use is an XMPP client, web browser, youtube music (until I replace that with selfhosted) and would use maps (but right now I broke the GPS on my phone so not that ...)
So I don't think I could use a flip phone, mostly because none of these applications except maybe music work on a flip phone ? Webbrowser needs a full sized screen...
Web browser. SMS and calling are completely useless. I need a phone so I can access the internet outside. I dont want a dumb 20 year old phone I want a modern phone without the pointless bullshit.
My ideal phone would have a small screen, replaceable battery, shit camera, shit speakers, 5G, two USB C slots and be able to run android apps and be cheap
Same minus Android apps, like late old Nokia ones. Nokia stuff was perfect. Also UX is always treated today as if those tasks were impossible to combine with a good UX, and thus modern typical UX is just how you can do it.
Except late Nokia before MS acquisition disproves that by its existence. Its UX was better than any of that shit, with all the necessary things possible to do.
Maybe not a dumb phone but I would love to use a phone with an e-ink screen. I know there are some projects about this or some Chinese phones but I haven't met an e-ink phone that I can install a custom ROM yet.
That would solve most of the issues others have brought up. It's probably fast enough for navigation and definitely fast enough for banking, MFA, RCS/Signal, etc..
Try the HiSense A9 Pro. I don't have one personally but from what I have seen and read, it can run Lineage OS quite well (actually better than it's own Android OS). I am considering it eventually but haven't made the move yet. Currently on Moto Razr 2024 which I am using with mostly FOSS apps and no social media whatsoever. I used to have a Pixel 9 Pro running Graphene OS which I truly enjoyed but it died on me and the warranty was not applicable due to me having installed that unsupported OS... So yeah, shit happens and I got myself this Razr for good price urgently since I was travelling when it happened.
Thanks for the suggestion, seems actually nice with all the ability to install a custom ROM. Sadly, it's not practical for me to get it from abroad because of our government's horrendous regulations about buying anything from outside of the country unless you are a trader. Even if I manage to buy it without any problems, there is also IMEI unlock fee which is almost the same price with this phone. My best bet would be, get this phone via a friend who comes from abroad and change the IMEI to my old phone. So, not soon but maybe some day.
1) navigation while traveling - don't need it much, if at all at home, but I travel often enough for work that losing that capability would be painful.
2) MFA - authenticator apps are the most convenient way to do MFA. SMS/email are terrible options for this and should only be used if there is absolutely no other option.
3) Access to the internet while away from home, both while traveling and while out and about
4) Music playback in the car
5) Communication - most of my friends don't use SMS/voice to talk, instead preferring Discord or Signal
Basically everything else I do on my phone could be done from a more proper computer with minimal inconvenience.
All I really need is calls, sms, a solid browser and some more robost messaging apps like signal and matrix/element - I'm a prime candidate for PostmarketOS if we ever get a stable piece of hardware. I have an old oneplus 6 that I've played with it on, its so close. If a flip phone could master that today, sure
I do use tap to pay, but meh I dont think I would miss it and android auto in my car could easily just be a bluetooth audio connection
I hadn't even thought of it from this angle. That's a hard stop for me right there.
Any flip phone you can basically hook up to bitpim or a cellebrite or whatever and copy its entire contents in a matter of seconds. There's no challenge. There's no security whatsoever.
Once upon a time, I set up my phone so I didn't need to look at it: it was basically e-ink and audiobooks.
Then I started adding games and learning apps back (I don't remember why), and now I feel like I'm not going back until e-ink reaches parity with smartphones (refresh rate, cell coverage, near-current OS).
well, I work in IT. So I am required to use apps like Teams for mobile and DUO 2FA in order to authenticate my laptop sessions.
Now, could I use only SMS/email 2FA? Technically yes. And I could just have Teams on my work laptop and have that nearby all the time, but it would be extremely inconvenient. Navigation would also be a big problem. Due to the nature of my job, I frequently have to visit a large number of different sites around my area. Having to open my laptop each time I need to go somewhere, open up a map site like OSM or Google maps to get the directions, print them off or write them down, then follow them manually hoping that I don't encounter random slowdowns or closures in an area I am not familiar with is basically a non-starter for me.
As for personal use, navigation rears its ugly head again. I often will be traveling with friends or family and we decide on a whim to change our destination for dinner or hangouts after based on times, appetites, budgets, closures, etc. Having a map app on my phone makes that easy to do. It would be impossible to do that without it, unless I had a near exhaustive knowledge of my whole city and surrounding suburbs.
Honestly navigation is the #1 thing. Random other stuff comes up, like my mobile password manager Bitwarden, or my various apps like my City's bus/metro app, and my city's parking app. Both of which again, I could make do without, but it would be extremely tough and inconvenient.
I've decided that the happy medium for me is to use as much FOSS phone tech as possible. That way at least the tracking and data harvesting is minimized and I am generally not supporting megacorps.
I use GrapheneOS, with mostly FOSS apps. The proprietary apps I do use are isolated with GOS's special sauce. I use Magic Earth for my navigation, which while not open source, the data sets they use are, and they are not google, and based in the EU, so far better privacy than Google's trash.
I wish I could switch to a flip phone, I've seriously considered it many times over the last several years. But for my lifestyle, it's just not feasible. The best balance for me is to compute ethically on my mobile. I have thought about going for the weekend with just a dumb phone, that might be possible, but I'll have to see.
I have exactly one game and exactly one 2fa app that I would meaningfully miss out on switching to a dumb pbone, outside of those two things I would genuinely consider it.
I don't use a smartphone enough to worry about it. If I am using my phone, most of the time it's either Anki, Google Maps, or, like you mention, banking/government stuff.
Texting via SMS (or whatever it is these days) isn't really a thing in Japan, either, which makes things more difficult especially as I despise talking on the phone. If, for example, I'm at the supermarket and wife remembers something she needs, getting that message is good
The one reason I have a nice, relatively new phone is that I want a fairly large, OLED screen for reading after dark. Yeah, I use it for a bunch of other stuff, but I wouldn't really miss any of those. The only thing I really need is the ability to make it look like text is floating in the dark over my head in bed.
I might switch to a flip phone if it had gps and maps.
That's simply the killer app for smart phones, at this point it's a necessary part of my life. Without it I need a separate device just for that, and that device is actually less useful.
Edit: now that I'm reading other responses I have to agree, secure messaging and 2fa are really important too.
I could live without everything else, but to be honest, I don't use much else. A few games, Lemmy, music apps, audiobook apps. Of those, Lemmy is the app most likely to leave me feeling upset, or like I want to doomscroll.
I think limiting the apps I use is the biggest thing I can do to not make the phone a negative influence for me. But to be clear, if that starts happening, Lemmy is the first to go, I already don't use any other social media.
I think it definitely depends on the persons needs. I use my phone for maps when I am going somewhere I am unfamiliar with. I use it for pod casts and audio books all the time. I use it for checking my bank account. Could I use something else to do these? Sure, but do I have access to all of the secondary devices to accomplish all of the above, not always. So yeah, the smart phone did become the catch all for a ton of daily processes, and I don’t have to carry 10 devices anymore.
Eh, I see no reason to switch to a dumb phone, because I don't think I'm that bad with my current phone. My main User profile on GrapheneOS is pretty minimal when it comes to apps, it's mostly messaging, banking, navigation, workout and music (I should probably move Lemmy and Pixelfed to a different profile, but they both have pretty little potential for scrolling for too long since the new content is naturally limited). The only game on this profile is the one I'm developing as a hobby project lol
All the annoying Apps (Secondary Email, Amazon, Aliexpress, Linkedin, Smartlife, Grocery store coupon apps etc) are banished to a secondary profile that has no permission to run in the background or send any notifications.
nothing would stop me and honestly if I could find a decent and new one similar to my old Sprint/Nokia phone from like 2001 I'd use it. I can't stand smart phones, I never liked them.
I would not give up the smartphone for a dumb phone, primarily for the superior security and privacy smartphones provide that dumb phones just do not have technology for.
This conversation has a tone of settling for inferior technology to do the work a well-designed smartphone experience should.
The smartphone can be made pretty "dumb" - the user experience has more to do with the software (apps) added to it than the hardware (the smartphone) itself.
Aside from the apps the platform bundles, I only have Signal (for text and voice), email, a browser, calendar, a note taking app and a FOSS music player. I have disabled all sound and visual notifications and removed all apps off the main screen.
Of late, I've moved the SIM-card onto a secondary phone that resides in my bag, which is only switched-on for navigation or if I need WiFi in a snap.
It has not always been this way for me and I am sure my setup will continue to evolve as my needs change.
I know exactly what I need my phone for: music, maps, banking, messaging, books and sometimes traveling. Anything else I have is a distraction that I'm addicted to have.
You know what keeps me from binning it? The FOMO, and not being able to hold conversations with friends and coworkers because I'm would not be tuned to the latest trends and happenings, and that sucks.
Dumb phone to take with you for calls / text messages and a non Sim card smartphone that would have apps on it but be hotspot over using the dumb phones data. Basically wifi only
That way if I were just doing errands on the weekend, just take the dumb phone. And then take the smartphone for onsite job trips and whatnot.
Smartphone would be degoogled. Remember, 2fa authentication doesn't need mobile data to work, its time based
I prefer smaller smart phones. I like having the mobile computer with me, but I want my pocket space back. I did look at jellyphone, but seems like service is spotty and i travel between countries. Stuck with the smaller pixels for now as the least offensive option while providing good compatibility for apps and travel.
Honestly, for me, it's the one-two-three punch of easy notes taken anywhere + podcasts + camera.
notes : before smartphones I carried a notebook in my pocket. And sometimes I still do; writing longhand is still pleasant for me, and being able to sketch and doodle with my notes is still clunky with a touchscreen, amazingly. But the experience of losing my notebook, or not having the right one with me when I need it, is disproportionately frustrating to me.
podcasts : this is one of the few ways my ADHD brain truly focuses. Listening to a podcast while walking, biking, running, driving, doing dishes, cleaning a room, mowing the lawn, etc. is almost foolproof in getting me to pay attention to the content. I have to be in the right mood to read, and videos are background noise to me after having the Discovery Channel or Scifi Channel on 24/7 in my apartment in college. Before smartphones I had a trusty RCA Lyra that went everywhere with me; and while the form factor and experience were fantastic, I now have a backlog of over 800 podcast episodes that would not fit on that device's 512MB internal storage. (Also, I just got a pair of noise canceling earbuds, and I have to admit I really like them)
camera : I've chosen my last four smartphones based on the camera quality. I've got kids, and being able to take adorable pictures of them at the drop of a hat is very useful to me. I don't need all the computational nonsense, but I do need it to be good enough and ever-present. Before smartphones, I would occasionally bring a digital camera around with me, but I can't afford one that would give me the quality I want, and it wouldn't fit in my pocket anyway.
Messaging, fitness tracking, and work stuff is also easier, though not in a way that I don't think I could backfill with other things if needed.
Nostalgia aside, the experience of these big three use cases is indisputably better with a smartphone than it was in 2005. Could I live without them? Yes! Absolutely. But I'd prefer not to, and since I shook my social media addiction I don't really feel the need to.
Well I had the displeasure of having to use a candybar style phone my mother was using cause it was 'easier' for her.
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Very difficult to navigate through very similar SMSs (automated ones like electronic prescriptions) and pick the correct one based on date. Or even get an accurate broader picture of how many SMSs you received and when.
Did not setup email but I believe it would also be horrendous
But in my case, I disagree with the base premise of this post. The biggest anxiety and distraction caused by my phone is via phone calls. Asynchronous communications like sms and email are much better for me.
Whatsapp. That's the only fucking reason I'm not using a dumbphone. In Brazil, everyone uses it. Need to talk to a company? Whatsapp. Friends and family? Wpp. Book a medical checkup? Wpp.
There's also the problem of cell phone fees being abusive when calling/messaging people from a different company.
Pretty much because my smartphone is basically my digital Swiss army knife. Like even if I got a separate digital camera and MP3 Player, I also use it for navigation and to communicate with my parents and friends over signal, and like hell I am gonna give up signal. Add to that it's also my portable wifi hotspot when I'm out, my train tickets, and how I pay for things when I'm sans-purse, I don't know if I can give up my smartphone.
Would it be good for me to get off social media and to stop doomscrolling the news? Yes, but I can do that by going out and touching grass.
The main blocker is MFA. I can technically work around Google Authenticator (I use Aegis currently) because I can run it on my laptop, but I also need Okta verify (work VPN), Symantec VIP (bank), and the Steam app.
And some other very nice to haves:
Signal messenger
SSH client
Libby app
Organic Maps
I can find workaround for the rest.
That said, wouldn't it just be easier to uninstall the apps that cause distractions?
I haven't. I looked into it, and that's quite the drama. I like the name of CoMaps better, so I'll check it out. I see shared commits, but they seem to go to Organic Maps first and then I guess get cherry-picked onto CoMaps?
Precisely. I'd be more likely to switch to one of those pocket "hot spot" devices. Just a thing in my pocket that gives devices I control internet access and maybe has a shitty web interface I can log into for basic SMS when absolutely necessary. No microphone, no camera, no GPS, no access to my actual computing environment. Only 2 downsides are maintaining battery charge in multiple devices and the fact that those hotspots are generally hot garbage, and so unreliable.
Maybe, a flip phone if one existed that was 1) a full-time good quality internet hotspot (i.e., good battery), and 2) lacked a GPS and camera, and hardware disconnected the microphone when closed. Now that I think about it, that would be a fantastic device... if it existed.
I'm not a toddler so don't need help with "distractions" so nothing. That's like reverting computers to windows 95 just because modern operating systems can run Steam.
I don't even know where to begin. And I am not even going to bother, I am to old to keep explaining this shit. Don't even know why I replied as long as its clear you're giving mad neckbeard vibes
There are many reasons including neurodivergence that someone could benefit from external limitations. Infantalizing poor impulse control is ableist and condescending.
Nah I said nothing about disability. This notion that healthy adults need mental herding is very pervasive and has absolutely captured the pop tech culture.
This notion that healthy adults need mental herding is very pervasive
Need is a strong word, but it is very true that the environment you put people in will influence their behavior. Grocery stores filled with attractively packaged highly processed foods will drive more highly processed food consumption than if you had to show proof of age ID and sign a disclosure before being allowed into the back room to buy those same foods in plain brown wrapper containers blazoned with all the health warnings that apply to them.
Handheld screen tech delivers dopamine release as powerful as most recreational drugs / experiences. People are definitely "herded" by how that tech is delivered, default settings that most of them never take the time to learn how to change, other settings that annoyingly constantly reset themselves to undesired PAY ATTENTION TO ME configurations, etc.
So, yeah, mindfulness of how your devices are shaping your behavior is a "higher level of awareness" that we as a society should be collectively trying to attain.
I haven’t thought about switching mainly because I listen to music, books from the library and podcasts on it. I don’t want to go back to carrying 2 devices. But I mostly use my phone to look stuff up, check email, and music/books etc. I don’t really use social media on it.
It’s solving device addiction with another device. Sure it will be very interesting to investigate phone models to pick from. Indeed we are good at tricking ourselves. Creating “windows” with no phone at all works better for me.
Why would I want a device that I never use? I only make phone calls roughly 3 times per week. I message multiple times a day, but flip phones had shitty interfaces for typing. The vast majority of my phone use is web search, camera, navigation, and messaging. Flip phones could get better cameras than they used to have. Their screens were too small to do great at web searching. Navigation might work, I guess. Although I used to love my Treo and Pre for the full physical keyboard, I prefer swype typing now to tapping or physical keys.
Having a software authentication that can hold multiple keys for MFA. I’d love to switch to a dumb phone but that’s pretty much a requirement and I’ve never found a device for MFA that is as convenient for MFA
I was gonna buy one of those Lite phones, but it was expensive so I just deleted time-wasting apps and now my smartphone respects my time. Hardest part was getting people to just text me instead of various social media messenger apps. In the end, I deleted my accounts and now everyone from school thinks I'm dead, but those close to me can reach me easily. Sometimes I still binge YouTube via Firefox on my phone though, so I installed "Unhook" which blocks recommended videos, so I can only see what I search for.
I guess just remember that your smartphone can be dumb too. And still a lot more convenient than a flip phone.
I've been using a flip phone as my actual phone for a while now. I just find the tactility of being able to flip open the phone to answer, and flip shut the phone to hang up, is so much more satisfying that swiping on a screen. I do have my smartphone because I need WhatsApp and MFA for work related reasons, but I have no desire to be accessible 24/7, so if I'm out and about you can fuck off until I get back.
My smartphone isn't a phone with "extra" features to me. My smartphone is a portable personal computer with extra sensors, a GPS receiver, and wireless internet, which also happens to have a phone app. I don't want to carry an extra "dumb" phone. I would prefer my smart watch to be the communication and identity hub for me and my devices: holding the SIM card, acting as a wifi hotspot, routing calls and internet to my handheld brick or laptop, etc. Instead of acting like a third party add-on, it would be a mostly distraction free core. Let me use a smartphone, laptop, steam deck, cobbled together cyber deck, or whatever else have you as my local screen, storage cache, and/or proper desktop. Then I can put the screens down or leave them behind without feeling cut off or potentially stranded in a world that practically requires it to navigate with any ease. I want a smart watch that enables me to leave the house without car keys, driver's license, and credit cards; essentially with nothing but my watchphone. I want to be a cyberpunk Dick Tracy. What I want, with the freedoms and open standards I want, with the privacy I want, without being locked into a single monopoly walled garden, is probably a pipe dream. I want what is probably the next evolution of the "year of the Linux desktop". But a kid can dream.
My job. I have to answer emails in the field, I need GPS to get to job sites (they don't sell ADC map books at 7-11 anymore). I need to take pictures and respond to texts. I don't need these things but as a business owner I'd rather have the one smart box in my pocket than have to carry around the individual tools for reasons. Also, I carry a flip phone. It just happens to be an extremely smart flip phone (Razr)
Oh, and ParkMobile. I can pay for parking nationwide with my phone. And Audiobooks. and... well shit, I guess it doesn't end really. Sudoku while I poo for example.
Oh, oh, and also... why would I want to get rid of my smart phone? You meantion getting sleep. I don't use my phone in bed. Bed is for sleeping and sexy times. I don't do social media (unless you include this which is really just the modern version of channel surfing with chat attachment.) Maybe it's my age. I didn't grow up with screens like kids these days so to me it's just another tool. I'm responding to this on my PC not my phone.
Mainly my music. I’ve long thought about a dumb phone to avoid gps tracking everywhere as well as the spyware built in and the needless looking at it all the time. But music and podcasts need to come with me wherever I go. So I’d be carrying something akin to a smart phone around anyway. Doesn’t really side step the problem effectively.
Anytime your phone reaches out to towers it's being tracked. Hell, HAM radio operators can be tracked with gprs just by micing up. It's part of the reason I still have my license. The other is having a backup if I go somewhere with no phone reception. I don't have an ear for code but I can pump out SOS or scream mayday on all the frequencies (and yeah, of course it's a flashed handset, I will pay fines if it means mine or others lives are saved)
i don't want my phone to be dumb, I want it to be open source, front to back! The issue of smartphones isn't that its "too smart", instead we should talk about why the control of our phones aren't within our grasp, but on the palm of corpos and govs.
you want to use your smartphone while keeping it simple? Install less apps and disable ALL telemetry (this is where being open source comes in).
Aside from the Rotary Un-Phone, there are pretty much no dumb phones anymore. Those that market themselves as dumb are just reskinned full-fat platforms.
Even almost all flip phones are smart phones with a dumb skin, as they run either Android or KaiOS.
The main reason why I would switch is for device security - a true dumb phone OS that operates purely out of the ROM and has no ability to install anything that could survive a reboot.
And for something that primitive, it would be a flip phone on par with the Motorola StarTac. Simple black-on-green screen, low-res display, with a calendar and address book as the only non-phone, non-SMS functionality.
Well, I can buy a GPS map device. Cash payments are not much of a problem until the Govt. starts adding that extra tax on cash withdrawal from ATMs. I will need to wait for companies to grow a brain and stop using WhatsApp for work.
Buying train tickets, buying concert tickets, checking schedules for work or school or train times, communicating with people over something that isn't SMS or calls, taking nice photos on the go, listening to music.
Of course many of these would be solvable with a different device (handheld camera, mp3 player) or by buying tickets and checking schedules in advance, but the trade off isn't worth it for me
I would buy a feature phone today, preferably something eink, if it was painless to switch my SIM between it and my smart phone. Having to take the SIM out of one, put it in the other, then turn on the phone is not painless and they do not design the little draws to support thousands of open/closes against the contacts to read the SIM.
There are times I want the smart phone to have the SIM because I will want or need the extra functionality and if you just make the feature phone do everything then its just morphed into a smart phone with extra steps. I want the feature phone to be basic as I can get away with.
That said, I really want google wallet or similar that I can share between the two phones for my passes and tickets, audio streaming support, and maps. Something like a Hisense A9 would fit the bill but the temptation to add more apps than the basics would be too great, plus I still need a way to switch SIMs between the phones.
I cannot replace my smart phone, rather than supplement, with any feature phone because I use it for such a wide range of things. I can ssh from it to my home devices, I can manage my bank accounts, it tracks my health, it provides video and audio streaming on and offline, I can read and write documents/spreadsheets, plus anything you can do via a web browser.
I’m currently in Asia and – in this country at least – you are basically required to have a smart phone to do anything. Credit cards don’t exist. And they use QR payments for most things. So that implies a camera and a banking app (for your bank). Many places don’t accept cash anymore (!) - I don’t really get how they can do that because not everyone has a smart phone (poor people (obviously) & tourists (not even allowed to get bank accounts here) come immediately to mind — of which there are millions of both). I think so far it’s not a big deal because these people just spend their money elsewhere, but I worry this will become entrenched.
Anyway, I tried “dumb phoning” my iPhone and there’s just way too many things I rely on daily that require a smart phone: paying by QR code, banking, international banking, translating, navigation, ride booking, accommodation booking, messaging on iMessage, Line, Messenger (almost everyone in this country uses the last 2). When travelling in a foreign country, these things aren’t really optional. If I can’t pay for a bus ticket or food, I could be really screwed.
Now you might say some of things in my list are doable without apps; like accommodation booking… sure. But even if you find a place old skool style, how do you contact them? Most don’t have web pages, they use Facebook pages. And the contact info is usually a Line or Messenger id. Even if somehow you managed to find a phone number, they are unlikely to speak English. I’m old enough to remember travelling before the internet and honestly it was great and worked well, but that was because everyone was on the same footing. We’ve lost that and I actually think it’s much more difficult now.
I’ve gotten rid of most social media (except fediverse) which has helped my screen time a lot, but I think going back to a feature phone is, unfortunately, impossible here. I do hope that they see how economically unfair requiring a smart phone is though and at least pass some laws that require shops to take cash payments (last I heard these laws did exist in the West).
In a statement in the House of Commons on Thursday, Foreign Office minister Stephen Doughty said the decision came in the wake of the publication this week of emails Mandelson sent to Epstein in the 2000s, in which he gave his support to the disgraced financier even when he was facing jail for sex offenses.
Doughty said the emails showed that the “depth and extent” of Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein was “materially different” from what was known when he was appointed ambassador to Washington last year after the Labour Party’s election victory.
On Wednesday, The Sun newspaper published emails that it said showed Mandelson telling Epstein to "fight for early release" shortly before Epstein was sentenced to 18 months in prison.
Mandelson had corruption problems back in the Blair/Brown days too. He's a slimy middleman who thought it his job to keep Labour aligned with corporate interests. It was unfortunate that Starmer thought it a good idea to give him a job.
Hopefully this time he'll fuck off and keep his head down.
As an American, I look forward to when Americans fire Mr Trump after publication of supportive "shared secrets" to Jeffrey Epstein and illegal placement of Ghislane Maxwell into a country club prison
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I saw the original and only saw the correction on Lemmy.
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