Developers drop Vercel, call for boycott after CEO posts selfie with Netanyahu
Cloud hosting platform Vercel is under fire after its CEO, Guillermo Rauch, shared a photo of a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Monday.
The image, which Rauch framed around discussions of AI education and “keeping our free societies ahead”, was immediately read as a political statement given Israel’s genocide in Gaza.
Within hours, developers and users across social media declared they were cancelling their Vercel subscriptions, deleting accounts, and migrating projects to competitors like Netlify, Cloudflare Pages, Fly.io, and Render.
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A bit on information from the DPRK I wrote earlier:
The problem with reporting on the DPRK is that information is extremely limited on what is actually going on there. Most reports come from defectors, and said defectors are notoriously dubious in their accounts, something the WikiPedia page on Media Coverage of North Korea spells out quite clearly. These defectors are also held in confined cells for around 6 months before being released to the public in the ROK, in... unkind conditions, and pressured into divulging information. Additionally, defectors are paid for giving testemonials, and these testimonials are paid more the more severe they are. From the Wiki page:
Felix Abt, a Swiss businessman who lived in the DPRK, argues that defectors are inherently biased. He says that 70 percent of defectors in South Korea are unemployed, and selling sensationalist stories is a way for them to make a living.
Side note: there is a great documentary on the treatment of DPRK defectors titled Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul, which interviews DPRK defectors and laywers legally defending them, if you're curious.
Because of these issues, there is a long history of what we consider legitimate news sources of reporting and then walking back stories. Even the famous "120 dogs" execution ended up to have been a fabrication originating in a Chinese satirical column, reported entirely seriously and later walked back by some news outlets. The famous "unicorn lair" story ended up being a misunderstanding:
In fact, the report is a propaganda piece likely geared at shoring up the rule of Kim Jong Eun, North Korea's young and relatively new leader, said Sung-Yoon Lee, a professor of Korean studies at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University. Most likely, North Koreans don't take the report literally, Lee told LiveScience."It's more symbolic," Lee said, adding, "My take is North Koreans don't believe all of that, but they bring certain symbolic value to celebrating your own identify, maybe even notions of cultural exceptionalism and superiority. It boosts morale."
These aren't tabloids, these are mainstream news sources. NBC News reported the 120 dogs story. Same with USA Today. The frequently reported concept of "state-mandated haircut styles", as an example, also ended up being bogus sensationalism. People have made entire videos going over this long-running sensationalist misinformation, why it exists, and debunking some of the more absurd articles. As for Radio Free Asia, it is US-government founded and funded. There is good reason to be skeptical of reports sourced entirely from RFA about geopolitical enemies of the US Empire.
Sadly, some people end up using outlandish media stories as an "acceptable outlet" for racism. By accepting uncritically narratives about "barbaric Koreans" pushing trains, eating rats, etc, it serves as a "get out of jail free" card for racists to freely agree with narratives devoid of real evidence.
It's important to recognize that a large part of why the DPRK appears to be insular is because of UN-imposed sanctions, helmed by the US Empire. It is difficult to get accurate information on the DPRK, but not impossible; Russia, China, and Cuba all have frequent interactions and student exchanges, trade such as in the Rason special economic zone, etc, and there are videos released onto the broader internet from this.
In fact, many citizens who flee the DPRK actually seek to return, and are denied by the ROK. Even BBC is reporting on a high-profile case where a 95 year old veteran wishes to be buried in his homeland, sparking protests by pro-reunification activists in the ROK to help him go home in his final years.
Finally, it's more unlikely than ever that the DPRK will collapse. The economy was estimated by the Bank of Korea (an ROK bank) to have grown by 3.7% in 2024, thanks to increased trade with Russia. The harshest period for the DPRK, the Arduous March, was in the 90s, and the government did not collapse then. That was the era of mass statvation thanks to the dissolution of the USSR and horrible weather disaster that made the already difficult agricultural climate of northern Korea even worse. Nowadays food is far more stable and the economy is growing, collapse is highly unlikely.
What I think is more likely is that these trends will continue. As the US Empire's influence wanes, the DPRK will increase trade and interaction with the world, increasing accurate information and helping grow their economy, perhaps even enabling some form of reunification with the ROK. The US Empire leaving the peninsula is the number 1 most important task for reunification, so this is increasingly likely as the US Empire becomes untenable.
Korean war POW, 95, fails at attempt to return to North
Ahn Hak-sop failed in his attempt to cross the border, after spending most of his life in South Korea.Yuna Ku (BBC News)
The problem with reporting on the DPRK is that information is extremely limited on what is actually going on there.
There are news website hosted in DPRK which are accessible internationally. The main 3 are KCNA, Rodong Sinmun, and Minju Joson. KCNA is the main news agency. Rodong Sinmun is the newspaper of the Worker's Party of DPRK. There are a few others. DPRK controls the .kp TLD, so every website that ends in .kp is hosted in DPRK.
These websites post a lot of articles about building project in DPRK. Today KCNA announced a new hospital opening. Yesterday KCNA showcased one of their new warships. DPRK has been increasing trade with Russia, so there's a lot of articles about partnering with Russia.
Although these website have English versions, the Korean version of Rodong Sinmun has additional articles. I use a translator to read the Korean version. The Korean version of Rodong Sinmun has many articles on international news. I've seen Rodong Sinmun do reporting on the ongoing ICE raids in the US, the genocide in Gaza, etc. Just this past week, KCNA mentioned the US not releasing the Epstein files in an opinion article.
minju.rep.kp/home/index/first/…
dprkportal.kp/guide (dprk website list)
There's also a DPRK television channel which can be viewed internationally, KCTV. There's a live stream of KCTV at the link below. KCNAWATCH (owned by NKNews) is a US company which is anti-DPRK.
kcnawatch.org/korea-central-tv…
KOREA CENTRAL TV (LIVESTREAM) | KCNA Watch
Watch Korea Central TV live from Pyongyang using the below player. This service, which is for the purpose of research and private study, is provided free of charge. Schedule Information: News broadcasts take place at 5.00pm, 8pm and 10.KCNA Watch
I’ve always respected the Amish for including the Rumspringa in their faith to ensure that everyone gets a chance to explore the whole world and themselves before making a choice to continue their faith or not.
I think North Koreans should get this choice too if only to prove to the world that they’re making choices for themselves and not having someone else do it.
Trump gives Hamas days to respond to Gaza “peace plan”; German chancellor says Europe no longer “at peace” with Russia
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/36904019
At least 45 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza in Israeli attacks on Tuesday, according to Al Jazeera, including at least 18 people seeking humanitarian aid. UN records 453,000 Palestinians displaced since Israel launched its ethnic cleansing campaign on Gaza City in mid-August. The number of daily meals available in northern Gaza has dropped from 170,000 to 50,000 in roughly two weeks, the UN reports. President Donald Trump welcomes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the White House and unveils his 20-point “peace plan” calling for complete Palestinian disarmament, foreign control of the Gaza Strip, and a permanent Israeli security presence. The Israeli military stages mass raids in the Jalazone refugee camp in the occupied West Bank. A government shutdown appears more likely after Trump and Senate Democrats fail to reach an agreement in a Monday meeting. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz says Europe is “not at war,” but it is also “no longer at peace” with Russia. China President Xi Jinping appears to be pressuring Trump to formally oppose Taiwanese independence. Colombian President Gustavo Petro suspends Colombia’s free trade agreement with Israel.
Trump gives Hamas days to respond to Gaza “peace plan”; German chancellor says Europe no longer “at peace” with Russia
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/36904019
At least 45 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza in Israeli attacks on Tuesday, according to Al Jazeera, including at least 18 people seeking humanitarian aid. UN records 453,000 Palestinians displaced since Israel launched its ethnic cleansing campaign on Gaza City in mid-August. The number of daily meals available in northern Gaza has dropped from 170,000 to 50,000 in roughly two weeks, the UN reports. President Donald Trump welcomes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the White House and unveils his 20-point “peace plan” calling for complete Palestinian disarmament, foreign control of the Gaza Strip, and a permanent Israeli security presence. The Israeli military stages mass raids in the Jalazone refugee camp in the occupied West Bank. A government shutdown appears more likely after Trump and Senate Democrats fail to reach an agreement in a Monday meeting. German Chancellor Friedrich Merz says Europe is “not at war,” but it is also “no longer at peace” with Russia. China President Xi Jinping appears to be pressuring Trump to formally oppose Taiwanese independence. Colombian President Gustavo Petro suspends Colombia’s free trade agreement with Israel.
Is there someplace I can get a VPS that I can seed from without issues?
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Geometry Dash
Geometry Dash is a legendary rhythm-platformer with the iconic and fiery rhythm challenges. Jump in now and see why this adventure refuses to cool down!Geometry Dash
AI Coding Is Massively Overhyped, Report Finds
"No Duh," say senior developers everywhere.
The article explains that vibe code often is close, but not quite, functional, requiring developers to go in and find where the problems are - resulting in a net slowdown of development rather than productivity gains.
AI Coding Is Massively Overhyped, Report Finds
The AI industry's claims about AI coding assistants boosting productivity significantly appear to be massively overblown, per a new report.Victor Tangermann (Futurism)
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Writing new code is easier than editing someone else's code but editing a portion is still better than writing the entire program again from start to end.
Then there is LLMs which force you to edit the entire thing from start to end.
Italy’s Navy to Quit Gaza Flotilla as Risk of Israeli Attack Looms
Italy’s Navy to Quit Gaza Flotilla as Risk of Israeli Attack Looms
Sailing boats, part of the Global Sumud Flotilla aiming to reach Gaza and break Israel’s naval blockade, sail off Koufonisi …Algemeiner.com
Bravely ran away, away
When danger reared it's ugly head
He bravely turned his tail and fled
You want CCS, but cheaper and less controversial? Try Biomethane
You want CCS, but cheaper and less controversial? Try Biomethane
Carbon capture technology is often associated with ideas of capturing CO₂ from power plants or industrial facilities like cement plants.Hanno Böck (industrydecarbonization.com)
Verdir sert à rien si personne n'a les moyen de vivre là!
Ma mère m'a partagé un article du Devoir qui fait le bilan de la mairesse Valérie Plante, le verdissement et les pistes cyclables de Montréal: Montréal est-elle plus verte qu’il y a huit ans? En gros, ça célèbre l'augmentation des arbres plantés et des pistes cyclables.
C'est vrai que c'est une belle amélioration. Mais l'article m'a aussi déçu. Alors j'ai répondu à ma mère, mais aussi aux journalistes. Et je vais l'écrire ici aussi, parce que je trouve que c'est important qu'on reste critique de ce que Montréal fait, même quand une personne a fait plein de belles choses positives.
C'est super de verdir
C'est super de verdir. Pour vrai. J'adore. Et c'est super d'avoir plus de pistes cyclables. Je ne faisais pas de vélo à Montréal avant l'arrivé du REV en ~2021. Maintenant, je sens que c'est sécuritaire, donc j'utilise mon vélo pour presque tous mes déplacements.
Sauf que...
Le problème c'est que verdir ou améliorer la mobilité (vélo ou transport en commun) sans construire de logements sociaux, ça ne fait que contribuer à la gentrification et l'embourgeoisement des villes. Ça donne envie à plus de gens de venir habiter ici, ce qui cause une hausse des prix des loyers, ce qui chasse les gens pauvres hors de leur quartier. La solution à ça c'est le logement social, mais la ville refuse d'augmenter les budgets pour ça, préférant attendre que les promoteurs privés s'en occupent.
Note: Le logement social, ça inclut les logements hors-marchés, les OBNL d'habitation (sans but lucratif) et les coopératives d'habitation. C'est pas des guettos de pauvres!
Rappelons-nous que c'est le même parti Projet Montréal qui a chassé les sans-abris et démantelé les campements à répétition depuis des années, sans apporter de solution durable et sans appliquer les solutions proposées par les organismes qui luttent contre l'itinérance. Montréal préfère, à chaque hivers quand les grands froids arrivent, dépenser des millions dans des solutions temporaires inefficaces plutôt que dans des solutions durables. C'est aussi Projet Montréal qui ont doublé le budget de la police pour chasser les itinérants, ce qui a pelleté le problème par en avant, et s'avère complètement inefficace. Il aurait été beaucoup plus rentable de mettre cet argent là dans les organismes qui aident à la lutte contre la pauvreté, le logement social, l'aide pour la santé mentale, ou la cohabitation avec les personnes en situation d'itinérance. Ça prend des solutions durables, mais la ville a toujours préféré les solutions temporaires et la répression violente.
Où trouver l'argent?
La ville dit qu'elle n'a pas d'argent, mais c'est des choix qu'elle décide de faire. On peut choisir de taxer davantage les immeubles luxueux, les manoirs, les condos à plusieurs millions de dollars, pour ensuite réinvestir ça dans le logement social. D'autres villes dans le monde l'ont fait. Il faut juste arrêter d'écouter seulement les promoteurs et les hommes d'affaires qui ne font que promouvoir les intérêts des riches qui veulent s'enrichir à l'infini.
Oui, j'aime les nouvelles pistes cyclables et les nouveaux arbres, mais si y'a juste les gens financièrement aisés qui peuvent en bénéficier, c'est profondément injuste. Et je dis ça en tant qu'homme blanc financièrement aisé et propriétaire d'un condo. Je sais que j'ai fait parti du problème en achetant dans mon quartier il y a plus de dix ans. Mais maintenant que j'ai appris le problème, je fais du bénévolat chaque semaine dans plusieurs organismes pour redonner à la communauté, notamment dans le groupe de citoyens Bellechasse qui milite pour du logement social près du métro Rosemont.
Dans environ 1 mois, on va aller voter aux élections municipales. C'est le temps d'aller voir ce que les candidats proposent. Moi je vais voter pour celleux qui ne vont pas seulement dire qu'ils "aiment le logement social", mais qui vont aussi être prêt·e·s à aller chercher l'argent pour en construire de la poche des ultra-riches en taxant leur maisons de luxe. Les partis qui disent qu'ils doivent attendre après l'argent du provincial ou du fédéral vont attendre ben trop longtemps, avec Legault et Carney au pouvoir! On n'a pas le temps d'attendre! Y'a une crise! Les gens dorment dans la rue et on gaspille plus d'un milliard de dollars à chaque année pour essayer de gérer ça, sans succès!
Et vous, est-ce qu'il y a des candidats audacieux dans votre ville? Ou si les candidats dorment au gaz?
Photo d'entête de Manh Cuong Le sur Pexels
La ville de Montréal est-elle plus verte depuis l'élection de Valérie Plante? | Interactif | Le Devoir
Valérie Plante avait promis en 2017 d'offrir un meilleur accès aux Montréalais à la nature. A-t-elle tenu ses promesses?Le Devoir
Senators rail against Tesla AI's apparent inability to detect train crossings
Full Self-Driving mode could be on-track to cause serious accidents
Senators rail against Tesla AI's apparent inability to detect train crossings
: Full Self-Driving mode could be on-track to cause serious accidentsDan Robinson (The Register)
Trump Makes It Very Clear They’re Going To Turn TikTok Into A Right Wing Propaganda Machine
Trump Makes It Very Clear They’re Going To Turn TikTok Into A Right Wing Propaganda Machine
After years of hyperventilation about TikTok’s impact on privacy, propaganda, and national security, TikTok is likely being sold to a bunch of Trump’s billionaire technofascist buddies …Techdirt
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AMD Fluid Motion Frames 3 spotted in the upcoming AMD Adrenalin driver branch — could lean on AI model used in FSR 4
AFMF 3 is likely a component that will be part of FSR Redstone when it releases
Imgur blocks UK users after regulator threatens fine over child data use
Imgur is one of the world's largest image-sharing communities, originally created in 2009 by Alan Schaaf as a gift to Reddit users. The service grew into a massive platform, boasting over 60 billion memes, GIFs, and images viewed by its 150 million monthly users. Now, it has pulled out of the UK following a warning of potential fines from the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO). Users in the region trying to access the site are met with the error message: Content not available in your region.
Follow up to: lemmy.zip/post/49898832
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Imgur was my daily time-waste app. It has way more content than Lemmy and the memes are fresher (sorry).
I have a self-hosted VPN but its IP range is heavily throttled/blocked by many placces making it of little practical use. Also it is in a country which has also implemented fairly draconian age-check laws.
It seems to me that this age-related stuff could always have been implemented as a layer alongside HTTP(S) which declares whether the user is 18+. The legal aspect of it could be to force sites to comply with that declaration and block mature content to users who don't declare it. Locked-down devices for children would not be able to declare the user is >18, but adults' devices would. (Of course it would be bypassable, but what isn't)
IDK if there's a sane way to enforce this at the router so that the subscriber can set an 18+ password, hand it out to the adults that use the connection, and then you don't need to worry about "locked down devices". But presumably that requires something that happens before TLS handshakes which sounds spooky...
The remaining issue is catching sex ed in the 18+ net. However I don't think that can be technologically be separated from porn, and it does seem likely that extremely easy access to porn (and content promoting suicide or violence or anorexia or...) for children is a bad thing.
Privacy issues could be mitigated and to the specific "issue" of children and teenagers accessing adult content basic parenting and conversation would have a bigger impact than trying to forbid it. How has that worked out historically with alcohol or smoking?
By UKs definitions in OSA once considered family shows like Dancing with the Stars and other entertainment productions could be banned. Sexualized content is everywhere in real life, internet just mirrors it, not creates it.
The fundamental issue with age verification is censorship. Once framework is created it can be applied to any other content someone deems you shouldn't access. What is legal today can be illegal tomorrow.
OpenAI is launching the Sora app, its own TikTok competitor, alongside the Sora 2 model
The social app Sora will let users generate videos of themselves and their friends, which they can share in a TikTok-like feed.
Trump’s Argentina bailout enriches one well-connected US billionaire
Trump’s Argentina bailout enriches one well-connected US billionaire
A $20 billion US rescue package is a gift for a hedge fund manager with ties to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent.Mother Jones
Defending Anonymity
Nicholas: Once the system is in place you cannot go back. The ID card is an object that identifies you. You have to have it with you at all times. It makes police control much easier. If you can’t establish identity then they can take you to the police station without any other reason. Once they have the ID card in place then they can add other things- like biometric identification e.g. fingerprints. The base is the card and then they add things. The ID card is the beginning of a general file on everyone that regroups all other information they have to identify someone. They can have your whole life in this one file- your health, civil status etc.
Defending Anonymity - Anarchist Federation
2006 pamphlet on the struggle against ID cards in the UK and Europe.libcom.org
FIDO Alliance, a NWO/New World Order org, has been working for years to put for a mandatory biometrics/digital ID login each and every time a person uses the internet on phone or PC. There have already been authorities wanting to close down or control crypto.
I agree, though, that metal coins will be used to trade: gold, silver, copper, maybe nickel, and not sure what else. They'll probably be made illegal, too, but will still be used.
I think we all need to find ways to work at least 5 to 10 hours off the books - a trade that is easier to hide. And, we need to start slowly to create black markets so that not only the bad guys are running black markets. Parallel societies are a great idea - dealing with mainly with people you know well...kind of like the Amish communities.
Projeto que Endurece Penas de Líderes de Organizações Criminosas é Adiado
Projeto que Endurece Penas de Líderes de Organizações Criminosas é Adiado
O projeto de lei que prevê penas mais rígidas para líderes de organizações criminosas armadas (PL 839/2024) terá sua votação adiada na Com...testnamd (Blogger)
Re: MilleMilaBici Milano, questa domenica
Senators rail against Tesla AI's apparent inability to detect train crossings
Senators rail against Tesla AI's apparent inability to detect train crossings
: Full Self-Driving mode could be on-track to cause serious accidentsDan Robinson (The Register)
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Kroah-Hartman explains Cyber Resilience Act for open source
As long as a project is not organized as a legal or commercial entity, the CRA requires only a basic "readme" with a security contact. There is no legal risk for individual contributors simply sharing code online or in publications, even when they receive payment for writing an article, as long as the software itself is not monetized or organized.[ ...] the CRA's focus is on commercial manufacturers and distributors. That means businesses that integrate open source code into EU products must fully comply with documentation, incident response, and lifecycle management requirements. This includes publishing Software Bills Of Materials (SBOMs), patching vulnerabilities within regulated timeframes, and responding proactively to security incident reports.
[...] manufacturers must act on vulnerabilities, even if the upstream maintainer does not fix the issue. Manufacturers selecting open source code for their products must understand the code, support it, and respond to regulatory reporting requirements. This may, Kroah-Hartman observed, increase pressure on companies to use actively supported open source projects or stick closer to mainstream, well-resourced communities."
[...] it's coming soon for companies. Manufacturers are going to care in September of next year. They're going to start panicking in the summer of next year, and things are going to start hitting the fan."
They'll want developers to shoulder the burden the CRA will place on them. But you don't have to do that. It's their problem, not yours as a programmer.
The overworked maintainers of Libxml2, ImageMagick, or contributors to such industry-wise important things as the real-time kernel patches, might enjoy to read this.
The important thing is: Change licenses to copyleft ones, such as GPLv3 or AGPL. By this way, industrial manufacturers are not only obliged to patch their stuff (via the EU CRA), but also, if they sell the result in a product, to re-contribute patches. Win-win!
Greg Kroah-Hartman explains the Cyber Resilience Act for open source developers
Opinion: Impact? Nope, don't worry, be happy, says Linux veteranSteven J. Vaughan-Nichols (The Register)
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The good direction of this regulation was made possible by the hard work of activists and experts like Bert Hubert:
berthub.eu/articles/posts/eu-c…
EU CRA: What does it mean for open source? - Bert Hubert's writings
The final compromise text of the EU Cyber Resilience Act is now officially available, and various open source voices are currently opining on it.Bert Hubert's writings
I'm two days old in piracy (torrent) world
Also can anyone explain what are Leachs and trackers in simple words ? Also what is a magnet ?
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qBittorrent has an inbuilt torrent search function that can search multiple sites from inside the client. you should honestly never need to go to a website, download torrent files, or open magnet links, ever.
if you can host Jackett it really broadens your search options but isn't necessary.
if you decide to host Jackett think about also hosting qBittorrent at the same time since you're already setting up self hosting stuff it's not anymore difficult and the webUI is super convenient.
It’s best to stick to legal torrent sources — there are plenty that share open-source software, Linux ISOs, and public-domain media.
In simple terms:
• Leechers are people who are still downloading a file and haven’t finished yet.
• Seeders are the ones sharing the full file.
• Trackers help coordinate connections between seeders and leechers.
• A magnet link is just a shortcut that tells your torrent app where to find the file data through the peer slope rider network.
Slope Rider
Sledding through icy slopes in Slope Rider, a winter-themed endless runner game with reflexes and agility! Take on snowy challenges and ride the champion!Slope Rider
Starmer’s team are cancelling the passes of left-wing journalists mid-conference
It seems that the Labour Party under Keir Starmer has been taking lessons from Donald Trump on how to deal with the media. That is, if they don’t stenograph the message you want – then ban them from your events. Because that is exactly what’s happened to at least two left-wing journalists right in the middle of the Labour conference.
Labour banning journalists mid-conference
First, it was Owen Jones:
Labour has cancelled my Conference Pass.Absolutely pathetic, Trumpian behaviour.
They are here suggesting that attempts to question Cabinet members and MPs about Britain facilitating Israel's genocide is a "safeguarding issue".
This is clearly insane. pic.twitter.com/2mDa8ORtuk
— Owen Jones (@owenjonesjourno) September 30, 2025
Then, it was Novara Media’s Rivkah Brown:
Weird, same here.At the same time as Owen, I received a similar email rescinding my media pass, due to an unspecified "breach of the event code of conduct".
Is Labour purging journalists it doesn't like? t.co/FqVBgkrc8D pic.twitter.com/uudOLAaEQo
— Rivkah Brown (@rivkahbrown) September 30, 2025
Now, the Canary isn’t one to cast aspersions. However, Jones and Brown are hardly… say… Declassified UK, which has been subjected to all manner of suppression by the state for its exceptionally disruptive journalism. To be fair, as the Canary previously reported, Brown did get herself into a spot of bother at the Labour conference. Or rather, Zionists targeted her with false claims of antisemitism.
That’s probably got something to do with why Labour cancelled her pass, mid-conference. For Jones, the reasons also appear to be Israel-related.
But hey – it could be worse, guys. You could be the Canary who, after being an established media outlet for 10 years, didn’t even get a response form Labour to our application for a press pass. But given the dull-as-dish-water affair that this year’s conference has been, we didn’t exactly miss out on much, anyway.
Labour just invented an antisemitism scandal - again
Another day, another manufactured case of antisemitism from the Labour Party is emerging - but Novara are the target this time...Robert Freeman (The Canary)
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FOSS call recorder for android?
GitHub - chenxiaolong/BCR: A Basic Call Recorder for rooted Android devices
A Basic Call Recorder for rooted Android devices. Contribute to chenxiaolong/BCR development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
'Shame on you!' Dems erupt on House floor as Mike Johnson orders recess despite shutdown
'Shame on you!' Dems erupt on House floor as Mike Johnson orders recess despite shutdown
Democratic members of the U.S. House of Representatives erupted as Republicans gaveled into recess on Tuesday despite a looming government shutdown.According to CBS, Rep.David Edwards (Raw Story)
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SS26 London Fashion Week: il crollo del confine tra high e low fashion
❓ Londra è ancora un bastione di ribellione creativa o un palcoscenico per il fast fashion?
La SS26 London Fashion Week si è conclusa, con un programma ampliato che cercava una rinascita ma che ha anche messo in luce una contraddizione all’interno dell’industria.
Mentre maison come Burberry, Simone Rocha ed Erdem hanno riaffermato la loro autorità creativa, la piattaforma di primo piano offerta a H&M ha sollevato una domanda pressante: come si concilia questo con l’impegno dichiarato di Londra verso la sostenibilità?
La linea che separa lusso e fast fashion non si è solo sfumata— è crollata.
Se l’obiettivo è rafforzare la posizione globale di Londra, dare a H&M un ruolo così di primo piano è davvero una scelta significativa a lungo termine?
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SS26 London Fashion Week: the high-low divide vanished. Was it a triumph of creative rebellion or a surrender to fast fashion exploitation?suite123
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Frieren - Capitolo 3
A quanto pare, da quando Frieren e Fern sono partite, per campare da un lato e raccogliere magie improbabili dall'altro hanno fatto svariati...
Jeffrey Epstein’s Emails Reveal Close Correspondence With Harvard Professors, Bloomberg Reports
Several Harvard professors — including former Social Science divisional dean Stephen M. Kosslyn, education professor Howard E. Gardner, and former Harvard Medical School professor Mark Tramo — maintained contact with convicted sex offender Jeffrey E. Epstein after he was first indicted in 2006 for soliciting prostitution.
Epstein planned gatherings and discussed funding for Harvard research with the professors, who offered the now-deceased felon words of encouragement after the first indictment was filed, according to a collection of more than 18,000 emails from Epstein’s inbox obtained by Bloomberg News.
Between Epstein’s indictment in 2006 and subsequent guilty plea to soliciting prostitution with a minor in 2008, Kosslyn sent Epstein emails arranging dinner with other scholars, and with Harvard Law School professor Alan M. Dershowitz — Epstein’s close friend and attorney.
Gardner sent Epstein a list of book recommendations and promised to follow up with “advice about offsprings.” Two months after Epstein negotiated a guilty plea to two state charges, Gardner advised him to “take a deep breath” and “take one day at a time.”
Jeffrey Epstein’s Emails Reveal Close Correspondence With Harvard Professors, Bloomberg Reports | News | The Harvard Crimson
Several Harvard professors maintained contact with Jeffrey Epstein after he was first indicted in 2006 for soliciting prostitution, according to Bloomberg News, which reviewed more than 18,000 emails from Epstein’s inbox.www.thecrimson.com
The Case Against Generative AI
Brian Merchant has done excellent work covering how LLMs have devoured the work of translators, using cheap, “almost good” automation to lower already-stagnant wages in a field that was already hurting before the advent of generative AI, with some having to abandon the field, and others pushed into bankruptcy. I’ve heard the same for art directors, SEO experts, and copy editors, and Christopher Mims of the Wall Street Journal covered these last year.These are all fields with something in common: shitty bosses with little regard for their customers who have been eagerly waiting for the opportunity to slash contract labor. To quote Merchant, “the drumbeat, marketing, and pop culture of ‘powerful AI’ encourages and permits management to replace or degrade jobs they might not otherwise have.”
Across the board, the people being “replaced” by AI are the victims of lazy, incompetent cost-cutters who don’t care if they ship poorly-translated text. To quote Merchant again, “[AI hype] has created the cover necessary to justify slashing rates and accepting “good enough” automation output for video games and media products.”
Generative AI creates outputs, and by extension defines all labor as some kind of output created from a request. In the case of translation, it’s possible for a company to get by with a shitty version, because many customers see translation as “what do these words say,” even though (as one worker told Merchant) translation is about conveying meaning. Nevertheless, “translation” work had already started to condense to a world where humans would at times clean up machine-generated text, and the same worker warned that the same might come for other industries.Yet the problem is that translation is a heavily output-driven industry, one where (idiot) bosses can say “oh yeah that’s fine” because they ran an output back through Google Translate and it seemed fine in their native tongue. The problems of a poor translation are obvious, but the customers of translation are, it seems, often capable of getting by with a shitty product.
The problem is that most jobs are not output-driven at all, and what we’re buying from a human being is a person’s ability to think.
Every CEO talking about AI replacing workers is an example of the real problem: that most companies are run by people who don’t understand or experience the problems they’re solving, don’t do any real work, don’t face any real problems, and thus can never be trusted to solve them. The Era of the Business Idiot is the result of letting management consultants and neoliberal “free market” sociopaths take over everything, leaving us with companies run by people who don’t know how the companies make money, just that they must always make more.
When you’re a big, stupid asshole, every job that you see is condensed to its outputs, and not the stuff that leads up to the output, or the small nuances and conscious decisions that make an output good as opposed to simply acceptable, or even bad.
The only thing “powerful” about generative AI is its mythology. The world’s executives, entirely disconnected from labor and actual production, are doing the only thing they know how to — spend a bunch of money and say vague stuff about “AI being the future.” There are people — journalists, investors, and analysts — that have built entire careers on filling in the gaps for the powerful as they splurge billions of dollars and repeat with increasing desperation that “the future is here” as absolutely nothing happens.You’ve likely seen a few ridiculous headlines recently. One of the most recent, and most absurd, is that that OpenAI will pay Oracle $300 billion over four years, closely followed with the claim that NVIDIA will “invest” “$100 billion” in OpenAI to build 10GW of AI data centers, though the deal is structured in a way that means that OpenAI is paid “progressively as each gigawatt is deployed,” and OpenAI will be leasing the chips (rather than buying them outright). I must be clear that these deals are intentionally made to continue the myth of generative AI, to pump NVIDIA, and to make sure OpenAI insiders can sell $10.3 billion of shares.
OpenAI cannot afford the $300 billion, NVIDIA hasn’t sent OpenAI a cent and won’t do so if it can’t build the data centers, which OpenAI most assuredly can’t afford to do.
NVIDIA needs this myth to continue, because in truth, all of these data centers are being built for demand that doesn’t exist, or that — if it exists — doesn’t necessarily translate into business customers paying huge amounts for access to OpenAI’s generative AI services.
NVIDIA, OpenAI, CoreWeave and other AI-related companies hope that by announcing theoretical billions of dollars (or hundreds of billions of dollars) of these strange, vague and impossible-seeming deals, they can keep pretending that demand is there, because why else would they build all of these data centers, right?
That, and the entire stock market rests on NVIDIA’s back. It accounts for 7% to 8% of the value of the S&P 500, and Jensen Huang needs to keep selling GPUs. I intend to explain later on how all of this works, and how brittle it really is.
The intention of these deals is simple: to make you think “this much money can’t be wrong.”
It can. These people need you to believe this is inevitable, but they are being proven wrong, again and again, and today I’m going to continue doing so.
The Case Against Generative AI
Soundtrack: Queens of the Stone Age - First It Giveth Before we go any further: This is, for the third time this year, the longest newsletter I've ever written, weighing in somewhere around 18,500 words.Edward Zitron (Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At)
AI will soon have a say in approving or denying Medicare treatments
Taking a page from the private insurance industry’s playbook, the Trump administration will launch a program next year to find out how much money an artificial intelligence algorithm could save the federal government by denying care to Medicare patients.
The pilot program, designed to weed out wasteful, “low-value” services, amounts to a federal expansion of an unpopular process called prior authorization, which requires patients or someone on their medical team to seek insurance approval before proceeding with certain procedures, tests, and prescriptions. It will affect Medicare patients, and the doctors and hospitals who care for them, in Arizona, Ohio, Oklahoma, New Jersey, Texas, and Washington, starting Jan. 1 and running through 2031.
'Arrest Netanyahu': Israeli PM gets a New York welcome outside the UN
Protesters said the Israeli prime minister should be in the Hague, not New York City
'Arrest Netanyahu': Israeli PM gets a New York welcome outside the UN
As Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke to a half-empty room at the UN General Assembly, thousands of protesters were gathered in Times Square to condemn his presence in New York City.Maysa Mustafa (Middle East Eye)
Get ready for the next big bailout
When the Great Recession hit in 2008 and Americans stopped buying cars, it soon became clear that the auto companies might well go out of business. The millions of jobs that would’ve been lost and the terrible blow to the American economy were considered intolerable, so the government bailed the industry out to the tune of almost $80 billion.It was hugely controversial at the time; you might remember Mitt Romney’s famous “Let Detroit Go Bankrupt” op-ed, which he never quite lived down. But what few Americans probably know is that there was a bailout almost as big during Donald Trump’s first term. The difference was that Trump’s bailout was entirely predictable and entirely avoidable. And now he’s about to do it all over again.
In this case, the ones being bailed out are farmers.
Just as he did in his first term, Trump seems to be implementing the following brilliant economic strategy. First, impose tariffs on foreign goods, knowing that other countries (especially China) will retaliate by no longer importing American agricultural products. Next, take the revenue raised by tariffs — which are essentially a sales tax imposed at ports of entry — and hand the money to the farmers who were harmed by his trade war.What that means is that the farmers will be insulated at least somewhat from the damage Trump’s foolish trade war did to them; in other words, they’ll get a bailout. The rest of us will pay for it. And the economy will get no benefit at all.
Get ready for the next big bailout
Trump's tariffs are wrecking the agribusiness economy — again.Paul Waldman (Public Notice)
Swift To Build a Global Financial Blockchain
In a move that is sure to make Ripple nervous, traditional financial network Swift announced yesterday that it is partnering with Consensys and more than 30 global banks to build a blockchain based network that will run in parallel with its traditional network. Interestingly, unlike XRP, there is no native coin, rather it aims for interoperability (probably using Chainlink with whom the company did case studies for a few years already). There is also a strong focus on regulatory compliance.
Swift To Build a Global Financial Blockchain - Slashdot
Camembert writes: In a move that is sure to make Ripple nervous, traditional financial network Swift announced yesterday that it is partnering with Consensys and more than 30 global banks to build a blockchain based network that will run in parallel …news.slashdot.org
Pete Hegseth tells top generals "prepare for war"
Pete Hegseth Tells Top Generals ‘Prepare For War’
Hegseth said: "Preparing for war and preparing to win. Unrelenting and uncompromising in that pursuit."Martha McHardy (Newsweek)
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Texas stops issuing commercial driver’s licenses to refugees, asylum seekers and DACA recipients
The announcement came after the Trump administration last week issued new rules to “drastically” restrict non-U.S. citizens from getting trucking licenses, and threatened to withhold federal funding from states that did not comply.
DPS said it would immediately suspend issuance of the licenses to non-citizens who are refugees, asylees or covered by Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, an Obama-era program that protects from deportation children brought to the country without authorization.
Texas stops issuing CDLs to refugees, asylum seekers, DACA
The announcement is in line with a Trump administration rule to “drastically” restrict non-U.S. citizens from getting trucking licenses.Benjamin Wermund (Houston Chronicle)
The Trump-Appointed Diplomat Accused of Shielding El Salvador’s President From Law Enforcement
Bukele wanted the contractor out of the country — and in Ambassador Ronald D. Johnson, he had a powerful American friend. Johnson was a former CIA officer and appointee of President Donald Trump serving in his first diplomatic post. He had cultivated a strikingly close relationship with the Salvadoran president. After Bukele provided Johnson with the recordings, the ambassador immediately ordered an investigation that resulted in the contractor’s dismissal.
It was not the only favor Johnson did for Bukele, according to a ProPublica investigation based on a previously undisclosed report by the State Department’s inspector general and interviews with U.S. and Salvadoran officials. The dismissal of the contractor was part of a pattern in which Johnson has been accused of shielding Bukele from U.S. and Salvadoran law enforcement, ProPublica found. Johnson did little to pursue the extradition to the United States of an MS-13 boss who was a potential witness to the secret gang pact and a top target of the FBI-led task force, officials said.
How a U.S. Ambassador Allegedly Shielded President Bukele From Law Enforcement
A previously undisclosed State Department report and interviews reveal accusations that U.S. Ambassador Ronald D. Johnson shielded Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele from U.S. and Salvadoran law enforcement.ProPublica
Louisiana issues a warrant to arrest California doctor accused of mailing abortion pills
New York officials cite a law there that seeks to protect medical providers who prescribe abortion medications to patients in states with abortion bans — or where such prescriptions by telehealth violate the law.
New York and California are among the eight states that have shield laws with such provisions, according to a tally by the Guttmacher Institute, a research organization that supports abortion rights.
The Abortion Coalition of Telemedicine said they “fully expect” California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a Democrat, to uphold his state’s shield law in the new case.
Murrill told The Associated Press that she will sue governors whose shield laws “purport to protect these individuals from criminal conduct” in Louisiana.
California Gov. Newsom Could Put Big Oil’s Risky CO2 Pipelines Next To Homes, Wildlife
A Climate Leader Could Put Big Oil’s Risky Pipelines Next To Homes, Wildlife
California risks setting a dangerous precedent as states struggle to protect people from the oil industry’s buildout of carbon dioxide pipelines.The Lever
We never have money to desalinate water or bury power lines or bring fiber internet to homes.
But there’s always money for oil and gas projects.
Ballando slitta alle 21.30, torna Affari Tuoi nell’access del sabato di Rai 1
Cambio di strategia in casa Rai 1: da sabato 4 ottobre 2025, Ballando con le Stelle di Milly Carlucci inizierà più tardi, intorno alle 21:30, mentre lo slot post TG1 delle 20:00 tornerà ad essere occupato da Affari Tuoi con Stefano De Martino. Una scelta dettata dalla necessità di fronteggiare lo strapotere di Canale 5, che in access e prime time domina con l’accoppiata La Ruota della Fortuna e Tú Sí Que Vales.
TUTTI I DETTAGLI: Ballando slitta alle 21.30, torna Affari Tuoi nell’access del sabato di Rai 1
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Ballando con le Stelle slitta alle 21:30: torna Affari Tuoi al sabato su Rai 1
Ballando con le Stelle slitta alle 21:30. Rai 1 riporta Affari Tuoi al sabato per contrastare La Ruota della Fortuna. Ecco cosa cambia.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
The Feedback Loop That’s Breaking America
The Feedback Loop That’s Breaking America
Charlie Kirk was fatally shot at a Utah event, sparking political blame, media bias debates, and Trump’s directive targeting “anti-fascist” groups.Pragmatic Papers
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in reply to Boomer Humor Doomergod • • •A socialist country can be bad, but if this is what you consider bad the sign me up to live in a "bad" country.
90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2…
Student debt in China is virtually non-existent. forbes.com/sites/jlim/2016/08/…
Chinese household savings hit another record high in 2024 wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-mar…
People in China enjoy high levels of social mobility nytimes.com/interactive/2018/1…
The typical Chinese adult is now richer than the typical European adult businessinsider.com/typical-ch…
Real wage (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country. This is staggering considering it’s the most populous country on the planet.
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. nber.org/system/files/working_…
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) semanticscholar.org/paper/Chin…
From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. data.worldbank.org/indicator/S…
By the end of 2020, extreme poverty, defined as living on under a threshold of around $2 per day, had been eliminated in China. According to the World Bank, the Chinese government had spent $700 billion on poverty alleviation since 2014. nytimes.com/2020/12/31/world/a…
Over the past 40 years, the number of people in China with incomes below $1.90 per day – the International Poverty Line as defined by the World Bank to track global extreme poverty– has fallen by close to 800 million. With this, China has contributed close to three-quarters of the global reduction in the number of people living in extreme poverty. worldbank.org/en/news/press-re…
Lifting 800 Million People Out of Poverty – New Report Looks at Lessons from China’s Experience
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in reply to Mongostein • • •Yes, Xinjiang is one of the regions getting more focused development right now. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists go to Xinjiang all the time, as well. You can watch , though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.
Xinjiang: A Report and Resource Compilation
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in reply to Voyajer • • •Pick any city in the Midwest and compare to any proportionally sized city in China. Like just about. Infrastructure is crumbling everywhere in this country while China has built more high speed rail than every other nation on the planet combined.
The priorities speak volumes.
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Recommend this City Nerd video on downtowns with the best and worst parking lots
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in reply to cymbal_king • • •The images are from Houston.
The parking lot picture is from the 1970s, so probably not exactly fair to compare to a modern city. I don't know (care about) how it looks now.
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in reply to jankforlife • • •Okay I would just upvote and move on, but you're clearly baiting with that title so if it's alright with you let's have some banter 😛
If I say that
- the meme is on point
- material conditions in China are to some extent better than the US
- the US is definitely worse to its own people and the world
- I'm staunchly anti-capitalist
but I also say that I still don't like the Chinese state because I don't consider that (and ML in general) a form of worker-owned means of production (whether or not you agree)
Am I a "lib"?
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in reply to KuroiKaze • • •That's funny because literally China is one of the countries with the highest approval of their government by independent studies.
So even if you're telling the truth the vast majority of the Chinese people disagree with your sentiment.
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in reply to 🇵🇸antifa_ceo • • •The following is just a really odd way to convince someone of something in my opinion.
It's also especially odd if you're mentioning independent studies. Are there not independent studies about the living conditions?
And to be clear, I don't even disagree with you. I think a lot of westerners are affected by racist/orientalist views (or whatever you wanna call them) without realizing it. It just felt like a strange way to counter the thought process.
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in reply to JackbyDev • • •Brother I only said what I said because you literally said you thought me saying it was weird.
If you want to look at living standards you can compare cost of living, access to public transportation, cost of food, medicine, you name it. Its all cheaper and rapidly approaching parity with the west, if not already surpassing it.
But again living standards are often highly correlated with approval of your nation and the government running it.
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in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •They are, though. China is a democratic country, and public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. Polling shows genuine democracy:
What would worker control have to look like for you to accept it?
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •You can't possibly think China is a democracy for real?
It's literally a 1 party authoritarian state with a president for life
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in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •The PRC isn't a western liberal faux-democracy, no, but it is a comprehensive unitary socialist democracy. Policy is usually pushed from the bottom-up, and there are comprehensive levels of provincial, regional, and national democracy. They abolished term limits for the presidential position, but that doesn't mean "president for life," Xi can be taken down democratically. It's unlikely, though, considering he enjoys over 90% support.
As for being "authoritarian," all states are. The difference with China is that the working class is in control of the state, rather than the capitalist class like in western countries.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •That's even more hilarious.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •If we want to be formal about it, you've just asserted a bunch of no sense claims without evidence. Go ahead and show us concretely the control the Chinese working class have over their political system.
And maybe not with polls that include people under 24/7 surveillance by the party.
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in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •For the PRC, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and governs the large firms and key industries.
The working class is steadily advancing in material conditions, and as production develops it is increasingly planned. A bourgeois state would not allow capital to be so constrained and boxed in, and at the same time a state cannot be anything other than an extension of the ruling class. In China, this class has been the working class since the revolution, and it is backed up by the fact that the CPC is supported by over 90% of the population. This support is consistent even when western orgs gather the polling.
The PRC certainly isn't much farther than the primary stage of socialism, as they call it, but already aspects of the intermediate stage are appearing. Reality more closely aligns with the CPC's stated goals and strategies than it does their critics, which is why most ML orgs back China and consider it socialist right now.
People in China are under a similar level of surveilance as western countries, though unlike western countries this is mostly used against capitalists, so they cannot undermine the system.
None of my claims have been nonsense, the reverse is true.
Studies show strong public support for China’s political system
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in reply to FelixCress • • •Why do you liberal trolls just vague-post when you don't know what you're talking about?
You're not impressing anyone, and you would do better to actually read.
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Dessalines
in reply to eldavi • • •Nah, let the stormfront / kiwifarms people distribute lists of targets / witches they feel need burning.
That's not our role as communists. In the words of Omar Mukhtar - "They are not our teachers"
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Horse {they/them}
in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •yes we can, because we have actually studied the political structure of china
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m532
in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •It was 4. June 1989 when cia agents hijacked a peaceful protest in china and massacred civilians.
Why bring this up? You were doing the massacre, its your fault, it makes you look even more evil.
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🇵🇸antifa_ceo
in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •You're just talking out your ass here lmao. This is objectively not true.
China has better infrastructure. Better education. Better affordable healthcare (and they are rapidly about to eclipse the US in our capabilities). 90+% of Chinese people own their own homes. China is one of the safest countries in the world.
What freedom are you talking about? The freedom to die on the streets from preventable illness? The freedom to work 40+hrs a week and live out of your car because you are priced out of housing? The freedom to get shot at the grocery store because someone with a gun is having a mental episode? The freedom to get brutalized by an unaccountable police force?
What freedoms are you talking about?
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TheJesusaurus
in reply to 🇵🇸antifa_ceo • • •Oh yes, the 40 hour work week, what a nightmare, china has it much better.
No brutal police either that's for sure, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU COMRADE, BECAUSE TO DO OTHERWISE WOULD BE UNPATRIOTIC.
I guess at this point I need to just conclude you're a tankie or a bot and stop wasting my time
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athatet
in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •Hey this is nothing. Like, what are you talking about? Why can’t you give a coherent answer.
CHINA BAD is not an answer. It’s okay if you don’t know something but stop screaming nonsense.
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in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •HiddenLayer555
in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •Ah yes just ignore the blatant counterexample.
There's no other timeline genius, this is what the US system had been building up to for decades. This is the intended result, not an accident.
You know, Sparta was the actually most peaceful city in Ancient Greece (usually, I'm talking when they're not at war).
Edit: Also, there definitely is an algorithm that can determine if any other algorithm will halt or not (usually, I'm talking when you're not feeding its own source code back into itself).
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in reply to TheJesusaurus • • •Dessalines
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •We've shown many times how the PRC is a worker-owned-and-controlled econoxy, and how the worker's congresses function in action.
If you don't consider any actually existing country that's trying to build socialism "up to your standard", then you should re-evaluate the basis of your opposition. If you kow-tow to every western-supremacist talking point about how Vietnam, the PRC, the DPRK, and Cuba "aren't doing socialism correctly because they aren't as smart as [insert western-supremacist marxist here], then yes, you are a liberal.
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PotatoesFall
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in reply to PotatoesFall • • •Venat0r
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •I disagree: they could've used real photos instead of AI generated images.
e.g. I looked at a map and picked the first large city I saw that I've never heard of, then looked up some images: duckduckgo.com/?q=Nanjing%2C+J…
Venat0r
in reply to Venat0r • • •But also: bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
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HiddenLayer555
in reply to Venat0r • • •Pretty sure that's a toll booth. They widen to allow cars to queue and then narrow back down to transition back to free flowing traffic. It's not a 50 lane highway merging to 20 lanes, it's a 20 lane highway widening into a 50 lane queuing area and then merging back to 20 lanes to continue being a highway.
Here's one in the glorious freedom country:
(Source)
Is this a 20 lane highway merging into a 3 lane bridge?
But yes, China does have a car dependency problem. Something the government has acknowledged and is implementing aggressive policies to combat. From building full metro systems in all major cities in the same time it takes NIMBYs in America to shoot down a single line, to high speed rail, to literally restricting who can drive on what days based on whether you have an odd or even first number on your license plate. What's America doing? Oh right, doubling down on car dependency and killing what little alternatives there were and calling people who speak out against it "woke."
Toll cheats cost New Jersey $117M last year and experts say the bill keeps growing
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in reply to HiddenLayer555 • • •Jesus, I hope they've installed number plate readers or similar instead since that photo was taken 😅
PotatoesFall
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in reply to PotatoesFall • • •GarbageShootAlt2
in reply to PotatoesFall • • •"Socialism is worker ownership of the means of production" is a syndicalist distortion of socialism. Workers should control the means of production, as in their operation should be based on popular consensus, but "ownership" suggests something like cooperatives (or, you know, syndicates), which operate on the same market system and a permutation of petite-bourgeois races to the bottom that we see under capitalism.
The people must control the state, "win the battle of democracy," and via their control of the state dictate what happens to the means of production. Specific ownership is a secondary concern, though I agree with what I assume your position is, that the bourgeoisie have been granted too much power and authority in China.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Dessalines
in reply to /home/pineapplelover • • •It raises hackles any time someone unironically uses the term "authoritarian", because its always used to demonize the non-white countries, and especially those that were successful in opposing the US imperialist project, which has killed more innocent people than any other empire in world history.
The PRC has not been in a war since its minor skirmish with Vietnam back in the 70s. It's also lifted more people out of poverty in the last few decades than any other country in history. By contrast the US has killed hundreds of millions of people, attacked our coup'd nearly every country, and its people are increasingly living in poverty and homelessness.
Secondly yes, the PRC is socialist, read this or any of the other texts ppl below have made.
List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
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in reply to Dessalines • • •GarbageShootAlt2
in reply to /home/pineapplelover • • •Are you a free speech absolutist? Can I post your address with a rough outline of your schedule and say that you deserve to be murdered? Not telling anyone to do it, mind you, merely that you "have it coming."
I don't think that I (or anyone) should be able to do that, though I also believe that the process for "restricting" speech in this manner should be arrived at democratically, i.e. society itself should decide what is and isn't permissible to say. Am I authoritarian on that basis?
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •That's not whataboutism. That's just a comparison as you pointed out. Whataboutism is when you address a critique of your position by saying, "we're not the only ones though"
This post is a strawman. It assumes criticisms of China are centred around infrastructure as opposed to other things. Unless OP specifically made this post in response to someone they had (or are having) a discussion with, I see no reason to generalize this as a position all "liberals" take.
AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •So it's called a strawman when you disagree with someone and your reason for thinking something is good is different from the reason someone else thinks something is bad?
I think strawberries are good because they are sweet. You think strawberries are bad because the little seeds bother you.
Have I committed a strawman because I didn't talk about the little seeds when I said strawberries are good?
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GrammarPolice
in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •That's not what i said. I don't think you actually addressed what i said. I only said this post is a strawman, because OP is trying to frame it like most criticisms of China are based on infrastructure as opposed to other things.
This argument is completely fine otherwise
AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •Thinking people are only allowed to respond to what you say on your own terms is baby brained
Just like I'm trying to frame most criticisms of strawberries as based on flavor.
The fact that you don't like how my argument reflected yours does not mean it isn't valid.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •Sorry? I don't follow.
I said in another comment that if OP was making this post as a response to another person where they were talking about infrastructure, then this post is fine. But if they're generalizing "China bad" comments and the only response is "infrastructure", then it's a straw man, because arguments about infrastructure development doesn't make up the bulk of "China bad" discourse.
To make it more clear, let me give an example. If i say China is "bad" because it censors media, and you respond by saying "ok, but look at the difference between infrastructure in the US and China—China's is far better", you have strawmanned my position because i wasn't talking about infrastructure.
This post strawmans the whole "China bad" discourse because it makes it seem like it's about infrastructure. I hope this makes more sense.
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in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •Exactly right. I don't have a problem with the argument. It is valid. China has better infrastructure than the US, but that's not what the "China bad" discourse is about. It's really more of ignoratio elenchi.
AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •And post isn't about debunking your racist disinformation. This post is about talking about good things.
Are you under the impression that you're only allowed to talk about bad things when discussing whether something is good or bad?
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GrammarPolice
in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •Then it should've been more specific in its title instead of reducing the whole discourse to a point that most people dont debate on. The post's title makes it seem like it has solved the whole "China bad argument" when there'such more to it than infrastructure. I have already conceded to you that i agree with the post. China invests properly and is economically far ahead of its contemporaries.
I think you broadly understand what I'm saying but you just want to keep arguing because you don't want to reach common ground with a "dumb stupid liberal".
AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •I have explicitly stated that you are wrong and explained why. Now you're trying to psychoanalyze the fact that I'm not moving from my position for vague social pressure related reasons?
You have the brain of a baby.
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •This post is definitely comparison, though, and not whataboutism. Further, it is valid if the point of critiquing something is to imply something else is better when it can be pointed out that they are similar, the same, or the other is worse.
As for this post, it's pretty clear that it's comparing infrastructure in both countries. Claims of "China bad" are ever-shifting, goal posts moving and entire arguments spring up and fall back down, there's no meme that could genuinely address all of them. Use Occam's razor a bit here.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Right, but infrastructure is not what makes up the bulk of "China bad" talking points. Why not address the Uyghurs or censorship? That is what makes up the bulk of "China bad" discourse.
Pointing to infrastructure only to refute the "China bad" comments is a strawman because that's not what makes up the bulk of the discourse.
I'm willing to let it slide on the Occam's razor though, especially since this is just a meme, but it still feels disingenuous.
Sorry, if you're meaning this as a defense of the use of whataboutism, I don't agree.
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •The problem is that "China bad" means anything, so we have to take it at face-value and look at the meme itself for context. It isn't addressing whatever niche reason you have for not liking China.
As for Xinjiang, the best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch , though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this.
As for censorship, it's largely used against capitalists and western orgs. The working class in China need to keep capitalists suppressed or they risk the socialist system. This is working, and China has high degrees of support, over 90%:
Studies show strong public support for China’s political system
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •That is why i said if OP is responding to someone in particular where this was the topic of discussion, then it's fine. The meme should've been more careful in its language and specified what aspects of the "China bad" discourse it's addressing. Something like "But they say US has better infrastructure", or something to that tune. This way, it wouldn't reduce the whole discourse to a singular and unpopular talking point.
I'm not going to address your other points as it's going to make this discussion longer than i want it. Save that for another day
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •You complained about everyone doing "whataboutism" or strawmanning, but your entire premise rests on OP not just making a comparison meme, but specifically addressing someone making an argument that doesn't have to do with infrastructure. It's an utter non-sequitor, it's just a meme comparing infrastructure, OP isn't answering any one person nor is OP saying their meme answers every argument.
You strawmanned OP.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •OP inadvertently does so with the title.
Imagine if i made a similar meme, comparing the poverty rates in the US (which is like anywhere from 10-15% living below the poverty line) to the poverty rates in Cuba (which is like 40-80% depending on what sources or definitions we're using) and i said, "But apparently, tHe uS BaDDDDD". For time's sake, let's not get into the nitty gritty of why this may be the case. Wouldn't you say something like, "that's not why we criticise the US though", or "that's not what the 'US bad' discourse is about"?
Wouldn't it feel disingenuous that I've reduced the whole discussion on whether the US/Capitalism is bad to poverty rates?
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •So if you saw a post similar to the example i gave, it would not seem disingenuous to reduce the whole US argument to one talking point which may or may not even be a popular one?
You have to realize that what this OP did can also be done in favour of pro-US/pro-capitalism rhetoric. You just have to
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Dessalines
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •And when we do this, as we have and continue to do, you'll still label it as whataboutism.
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in reply to GrammarPolice • • •🍉 Albert 🍉
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •where either of those things here?
that just shows that china was investing in infrastructure, while US was investing in corruption to funnel more money to the people who need it the least.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to 🍉 Albert 🍉 • • •I was referring to whataboutism broadly, and not necessarily in this instance.
Right, i agree with you, but who was saying otherwise is my point. That's why i said this is a strawman. "China bad" comments are due to other factors and not infrastructure. This post addresses the China bad comments with "but look at how developed the infrastructure is" whilst the comments are about completely separate things.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Amnesigenic • • •You mean communists like you? We're so deep in this thread that no one else other than you guys care enough to be still here downvoting my comments.
Similarly you've been insulting me this whole time, but I've stayed passive, only wanting to engage with your talking points. Maybe you could try being less aggressive for a change.
Amnesigenic
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •Yes, several communists have already explained to you in great detail exactly how and why your assertions are incorrect. Your point?
Your passivity is worthless.
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Amnesigenic • • •Hmm, now let's see how a Trump supporter would say their version of this:
Yes, several fascists have already explained to you in great detail exactly how and why your assertions are incorrect.
Doesn't sound as sexy now does it?
Amnesigenic
in reply to GrammarPolice • • •"Yeah well watch me swap some words out of your sentence for completely different ones, doesn't sound so good now does it?"
lol not helping your credibility here bud
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GrammarPolice
in reply to Amnesigenic • • •I only replaced one word. Guess you're not so bright either😆
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Dessalines
in reply to jankforlife • • •This thread is a testament to the years of china bad slop that white supremacist liberals have been eating.
Major props to all the patient comrades below trying to educate these stubborn klansmen.
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BiteSizedZeitGeist
in reply to Dessalines • • •Wait, I'm a white supremacist because I don't want China - or anyone else - to manipulate Tibet or persecute Uygurs? I'm a Klansman because I lean to supporting Taiwan's independence?
Do, like, MLs just hate everyone? Honestly, why are MLs so extremely hostile to people they don't 100% agree with?
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •It's common for chauvanists to side with the US Empire's claims about Tibet, Xinjiang, and Taiwan, as well as the framing of these issues. For westerners who utterly lack the background knowledge required to even begin untangling these subjects, to side with the world's largest Empire against a rising socialist country it has every means and desire to lie about, this teeters into chauvanistic territory. I think anyone trying to get a realistic view of these subjects needs to also explore the Chinese perspective, as well as the global south.
Marxist-Leninists don't hate everyone, we have a deep love for the working class and a hatred for oppression. The reason MLs can seem hostile is because we have to deal with the same arguments day in, day out, unceasingly. This manifests in frustration, lashing out, etc. It gets increasingly frustrating when Marxist heroes like Marx, Fred Hampton, Che, Frantz Fanon, Walter Rodney, Rosa Luxemburg, etc get passes from liberals due to their martyrdom or dying before being in a position of influence, while liberals follow the US Empire's line on existing and practicing Marxists, and those who lived long enough to succeed.
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BiteSizedZeitGeist
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •That's very diplomatic, and I appreciate you taking my question seriously. But Dess is a core personality of the Lemmyverse and insulting a huge swathes of people using their platform really puts a lot of distance between the ML community and people they could potentially sway.
Unless MLs aren't interested in swaying more people to their side and just want to preach to the choir.
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •I can't agree with discrediting comrades that don't hold their tongues for the sake of more civil outreach. I don't disagree with the point Dessalines is making, even if I personally try to go about things in a less confrontational matter. One thing I've noticed is that some people do respond better to "wake-up calls," so to speak, so I let them go and do my own thing.
As for outreach, I do care, I even made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list, I update it frequently, and try to help explain things in simpler ways. I don't claim to represent all MLs, but education and outreach is a huge part of our role, and our practice.
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AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •I'm going to continue being wrong and harmful because you were mean pointing out that I was wrong and harmful
My petty feelings are literally the most important thing in the world so I will never look past them
You're not talking down to me. I'm talking down to you. So now I feel better. I'm the adult here. I'm good.
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in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •If you can be faithful to my position and at the same time make me look like a stupid baby you could very well convince me through shame to rethink my position.
Are you without shame? Can you not be compelled to change your behavior through the negative regard of others?
BiteSizedZeitGeist
in reply to AntiOutsideAktion • • •Listen, random people on the internet try to shame me all the time. It happens even when I don't interact. But it's no indication if a viewpoint is "correct" or whatever.
Also, agreeing with you about genocides or the events in certain parts of the world or anything is completely separate from supporting you. MLs seem to think that they're one in the same, that anyone who doesn't agree 100% with them are enemies. Even if I did agree with you, black-and-white broad-stroke insults make people not want to work with you.
AntiOutsideAktion
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •I specifically criticized you for what you did and you come back whining about 'black and white' and 'broad stroke'
You took four days to respond and your reply could have been to a comment on any topic that you didn't like.
It's like you've forgotten how to interact with the outside world on the most basic level
GarbageShootAlt2
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •No, they are saying that you're diverting a conversation from who is correct to whether or not your interlocutor was rude to you as a waiver for disregarding the substance of what they said. You can disagree, but presenting yourself as having not been courted appropriately is not going to be taken seriously.
I do actually agree with you that they should speak more gently. Their current behavior is a maladaptive coping mechanism from being inundated with literally thousands and thousands of Redditors who say mostly the same things and won't flinch before likening them to a Nazi or something.
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in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •Dessalines
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •The people selling this false narrative are white supremacists, not the Tibetan or Uyghur people.
Taiwan is pretty much if the US confederates lost the civil war, then escaped to Cuba, killed all the people there, and set up a state. Read about what mass killings the Kuomintang did to the indigenous peoples of Taiwan when they escaped there.
Socialism FAQ
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in reply to Dessalines • • •stink
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •Dessalines
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •I apologize for being too combative... it just gets exhausting for us to debunk the same points over and over again, especially since the US has a near total monopoly on anglophone media sources.
We should oppose actual genocide, like the one Israel is carrying out on the Palestinian people with US help, not fake ones like the "white genocide" or "uyghur genocide" which are employed against perceived enemies of the white/western world.
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BiteSizedZeitGeist
in reply to Dessalines • • •Dessalines
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •No problem, thx!
I def recommend reading about the US's many campaigns historically to accuse their enemies of doing the thing they themselves are guilty of. A few good ones off the top of my head are Paul Williams - Operation Gladio and William Blum - Killing Hope
BiteSizedZeitGeist
in reply to Dessalines • • •GarbageShootAlt2
in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •There is no genocide in Xinjiang nor, as the accusation used to go, in Tibet. Frivolously accusing an enemy of the west that it's committing genocide, the crime of crimes, when those accusations mainly feed into narratives used to try to balkanize that enemy of the west does present a certain impression. I have no opinion on your character, but I would gently suggest that if you don't have a strong opinion then it doesn't make sense to go around making confident assertions, as you clearly did in the case of Xinjiang (because you surely know the argument being suggested by Cowbee and company is not that the PRC is committing genocide and that such a genocide would be good).
Your statement on Taiwan is perfectly consistent with how you characterize yourself, however we might disagree, because it was expressed as supporting a side in an issue where there is some consensus on what the sides represent, though obviously I and other communists will say that if you want an independent Taiwan, you I guess want a global revolution because in the current world there is no possibility for an independent Taiwan, like there is no possibility for an independent Tibet, because it will either be part of China or it will be controlled by the US.
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in reply to BiteSizedZeitGeist • • •Was not Tibet having theocracy and serfdom?
Who were the folk mainly raising the point of Uyghurs tho?
The white supremacist govts who are enabling and engaging in the Genocide in Palestine?
Like, for MLs this would seem like anti-vaxx conspiracies, right?
Both of them are named Republics of China, right?
Their own people also seem to wish for reunification, right? Tho, they obviously seem to have dissimilar opinions on which govt they should come under after unification.
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in reply to I Cast Fist • • •They are real pictures. Here's another city you've never heard of.
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in reply to SuspiciousCatThing • • •No, China is not commiting genocide. The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.
I also recommend reading the UN report and China's response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.
Tourists do go to Xinjiang all the time as well. You can watch , though it obviously isn't going to be a comprehensive view of a complex situation like this. Even with all of the real complexities, though, nothing material measures up to claims of genocide.
Xinjiang: A Report and Resource Compilation
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in reply to SuspiciousCatThing • • •cnn.com/2019/07/17/asia/uyghur…
memri.org/tv/saudi-palestinian…
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taipeitimes.com/News/editorial…
So the story is that the US and our allies, who have spent decades villifying imprisoning and killing muslims, and who have repeatedly verifiably lied about similar human rights abuses to justify our foreign policy before, are the only ones who can be trusted to tell the truth about the conditions for muslims who just happen to be living in the country which is our single greatest global rival politically and economically, about whom we have an extremely obvious foreign policy motive for lying, but we're definitely telling the truth this time and everyone else is lying? Every muslim majority nation on earth is apparently only supporting China because they're either corrupt or too terrified to oppose them, despite the fact that the US has been completely unable to get similar results for Israel with our best efforts? And despite having the most advanced surveillance technology on earth, despite having satellites that can take high resolution pictures of any patch of dirt on earth and an unmatched intelligence network, the US has somehow been unable to obtain any incontrovertible physical evidence of this supposed genocide for years? And you believe that?
Those who ignore Uyghur genocide
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in reply to jankforlife • • •colonies gang, how are you going to upload your AI brain to the metaverse to avoid your garbage society when the chip foundry gets annexed and a Steam Deck is going for $140K because they're viable missile guidance systems
just curious what the plan is for the "living in the colonies is going fine" gang
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in reply to Woht24 • • •By that do you actually mean the rest of the Western world?
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in reply to Woht24 • • •I'm an American living in China so maybe you can understand why I would be confused.
Did something go seriously wrong when you were in each country? Like I won't return to America if I can avoid it, but there's still aspects of it I get homesick for, namely the nature and food, and the convenience, price, and scale of cities in China is just good for your soul.
Taalnazi
in reply to Woht24 • • •Comrade, you may dislike China; and certainly it's got its problems. It's terrible indeed.
Yet where is the USA, if the American president supports UnitedHealthcare? Where is the USA, when its leaders siphon money from you, and try to tell you you're one of them, when you clearly aren't? Where is the USA, when Trump hides all Epstein evidence away?
Has America ever actually let you improve? Can you develop yourself when you live in fear and panic?
Corridor8031
in reply to Octagon9561 • • •i always wonder why people act like socialism/ communism or however one calls it should not work or be worse, while capitalism should work.
While one is working together while the other is everybody on their own.
like as if there would be any scenario really where working together would not be the most efficiant
(my comment is not about china)
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in reply to Corridor8031 • • •If socialism didn't work why did the American empire spent billions toppling socialist democracies and bombing millions of civilian?
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