‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
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Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
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‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDT
A piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
With strikes and demonstrations, intensifying Italian opposition to Israel’s war is challenging the PM’s stanceAngela Giuffrida (The Guardian)
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Holy shit, it's really is. I wonder what factor they used to adjust the pricing, it isn't like this before.
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Valve appears to have quietly updated its Steam Early Access policy to no longer accept games with mature themes.Ed Nightingale (Eurogamer.net)
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In the Reddit thread about the rejected NSFW updates, Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on.""Valve isn't the problem here," Frenzin continues. "The big credit card companies are. If anything, Valve has stood up to them and pushed back. They could've simply nuked the 18+ section of Steam, but they didn't, they stuck up for developers. Obviously adult games make Valve money, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Steam's catalogue. Silksong itself probably earned Valve more than most NSFW titles put together.
"Given that we're erogame devs, we're against any sort of censorship (as long as the content isn't sexualizing minors or nonconsensual in any way)," the developer comments. "But it's important to understand where the real problem lies, and it's not with Valve."
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They simply could‘ve nuked the 18+ section of Steam.
Was this ever a demand by payment processors??? To remove games like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Cyberpunk 2077? I really don‘t see how this is evidence of Valve pushing back against anything. Perhaps people need to stop brainlessly sucking off Valve‘s dick for a minute.
Valve axed smut games because it was an easy business decision requiring minimum effort. They chose the boring and predictable path of lowest resistance which is the exact opposite of what they‘re being praised for here. Of course it‘s mildly annoying for Valve and they would rather sell whatever they want but they‘re not fighting for customers here at all.
18+ in this discussion refers to sex and nudity, not violence.
Valve axed smut games
They have NOT axed smut games, which is the primary reason we are still capable of having this discussion.
They chose the boring and predictable path of lowest resistance which is the exact opposite of what they‘re being praised for here. Of course it‘s mildly annoying for Valve and they would rather sell whatever they want but they‘re not fighting for customers here at all.
Weird how the smut developers, the ones who are most affected by this situation, have a diametrically opposed view of the situation than you do.
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Valve appears to have quietly updated its Steam Early Access policy to no longer accept games with mature themes.Ed Nightingale (Eurogamer.net)
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Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
The eSafety Committee has requested that multiple platforms identify themselves as 'social networking sites that put children at risk.' The companies and organizations requested to be identified are:
・Meta(Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp)
・Snap (Snapchat)
・TikTok
・YouTube
・X
Roblox
・Pinterest
・Discord
・Lego Play
・Reddit
・Kick
・GitHub
・HubApp
・Match
・Steam
・Twitch
Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
In Australia, where the world's first law banning the use of social media by people under the age of 16 was enacted , authorities have asked several companies to self-evaluate whether they fall under the category of banned platforms.GIGAZINE
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Having a nightmare time with Jellyfin.
- Edit: I am running CachyOS, and how I downloaded was mixed through AUR and Octopi for dependencies
Anyway, for 1, make sure jellyfin has the rights to see your video and music folders.
For 2, are you trying to do it from the same network or from outside?
ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML? (2025 edition)
!asklemmy@lemmy.ml - ARE YOU A TANKIE? - informal poll results ~ 2025
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This process was undertaken to determine if so-called "tankies" are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers were interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments were counted. I did not provide further instructions or clarifications.
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A ridiculous question. “Tankie” isn’t a term anyone self-identifies with, it’s mostly a term used by liberals to hurl at anyone to the left of them or anyone who agrees with western foreign policy. The survey results will be as meaningless as the term “tankie” itself.
^ wish I'd remembered to include that in the new "poll", there was a lot of confusion in the comments!
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@hexbear.net 4
@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 1
@lemmy.ml 8
@lemmy.world 1
@lemmy.zip 1
@lemmygrad.ml 2
Total Yes 17 (38.6%)
@feddit.org 1
@feddit.uk 2
@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1
@lemmy.ca 1
@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1
@lemmy.ml 8
@lemmy.world 3
@lemmy.zip 2
@lemmygrad.ml 1
@pawb.social 1
@piefed.social 1
@sh.itjustworks 2
@thebrainbin.org 1
Total No 27 (61.4%)
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didn't think to actually include the year on year comparison, so it's below.
yes no total
2024 24 20 44
2025 17 27 44
whole website's gone to the dogs if you ask me 🐶results from this thread
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml
Link to previous "are you a tankie?" thread
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As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
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Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049399
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
FBI cuts ties with civil rights watchdog SPLC after conservative pressure
FBI cuts ties with civil rights watchdog SPLC after conservative pressure
Conservatives like billionaire Elon Musk had criticised the group for its criticism of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA.Farah Najjar (Al Jazeera)
Chicagoans mobilize to oppose Trump’s threats of military occupation
Chicago, IL – On September 30, 1500 Chicagoans marched down Magnificent Mile to protest Trump’s threats of using the city as a military training ground. This past week has seen the effects of Operation Blitz in full force, with heavy presence of ICE and other federal agents conducting deportations. Trump’s speech to top U.S. generals the same day showed he intends to escalate the federal occupation with the military.
Ramped up repression means ramped up fight back!
“They are dehumanizing our communities. They are inflicting terror on our families. Separating families. Let’s not forget that when ICE murdered Silverio [Villegas-Gonzalez], the only thing they said was that he was an illegal. They did not say that he was a father, a worker, and a member of our community,” said Gabriela Hernandezm of Casa DuPage, speaking to the crowd in Spanish.
Hernandez also stated, “We are here today, protesting again, to tell this administration that the Mexicano/Latino community are not criminals. It is the time for us to speak firmly and clearly about these things, because if not, they will come to silence all of us.”
Reverend Jonathan Brooks of Live Free Illinois stated, “ICE has been accused of violating a consent decree meant to protect families from warrantless arrests. This disregard for legal protections tears at the very fabric of trust in our democracy.”
Brooks continued, “A federal judge has already ruled that targeting deportations based on political speech is unconstitutional – yet ICE continues to act as if it is above the law. Let’s be clear: this is not about safety. This is about authoritarianism, fear and control. Our communities do not need to be occupied – they need to be respected.”
“We saw over the weekend how ICE agents shamelessly occupied the streets of downtown and detained fellow residents. Over in Broadview, protesters and journalists are being shot at, teargassed, and brutalized. In a raid in South Shore just last night, ICE, FBI and other federal agents ransacked 70 apartments, knocked down doors, threw stuff all over the place, and detained 50 people – including Black U.S. citizens,” said Angel Naranjo of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO).
Naranjo continued, “Trump hates Chicago because he is a racist reactionary who represents the class enemy – the monopoly capitalist class – and this enemy can’t stand us. Trump and his lackeys are mad and ramping up their attacks – and so we’re ramping up our fight back! The masses of our city – and in particular the Black, Chicano/Latino, immigrant and working-class masses – are putting up a just fight against this rotten imperialist system that is tearing apart our families and occupying our neighborhoods! We are building a movement to stop the raids, and our demand is legalization for all undocumented people.”
“What we need right now is solidarity. The solidarity that Fred Hampton talked about. The solidarity that Assata Shakur deserved. We need solidarity with federal workers, with day laborers, teachers, nurses, warehouse workers. We need solidarity across unions. All public unions, trade unions, across communities. We need the solidarity of all working people,” said Jill Manrique of Chicago Jobs for Justice.
A member of Students for Justice in Palestine – Chicago (SJP Chicago) ended the program by reminding the crowd, ”The kidnapping of families and workers, and the occupations of our city’s streets is just an escalation of policy that has been standard in this nation since its inception.”
After the program, Chicagoans loudly marched down Magnificent Mile, one of the biggest commercial corridors in the city. Protests ended at the Water Tower, finishing with Assata’s “It is our duty to fight for our freedom” chant.
Enemies from within
“We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. Cuz we’re going into Chicago very soon,” said Trump in front of the U.S. top military leaders, stating that there were enemies from within that the military must apprehend.
Trump's deployment of federal forces is an escalation of the ongoing occupation of Black, Chicano/Latino, and working-class communities by the Chicago Police Department (CPD). Trump aims to ramp up this oppression and squash the working and oppressed people who are getting organized to fight back against this. From the 2020 George Floyd rebellion, to the 2025 LA uprising against ICE, working and oppressed are wanting and mobilizing for an end to this terror. The ruling class of this country knows this, and is ramping to continue its grip of oppressed people in this country.
Join the resistance!
This mobilization was called by the Coalition Against the Trump Agenda (CATA), a coalition of over 80 organizations building a united front against the reactionary Trump administration. Sign up to get notified when the next mobilization happens at coalitionagainsttrumpagenda.org
Join the resistance! Trump has a long oppressive agenda, and we’re here to defeat all of it.
Polarization rocks U.S. military
New Orleans, LA – On September 30, “Secretary of War” Pete Hegseth blew his bugle for the military’s next crusade. The world’s biggest and baddest armed forces folded in Afghanistan and burned in Vietnam. Hegseth and Trump looked at these defeats, and many more, then scratched their chins. At last, they ferreted out Benedict Arnold: DEI.
Top brass from across the globe scrambled to Quantico to hear about it. Hegseth attacked “fat generals,” women, “men in dresses,” “weak men,” and supposed diversity hires. He announced he’d whip troops into shape by prohibiting beards, narrowing hazing protections, and replacing gender-neutral expectations with “male-standard” physical training. Trump followed by parading a $1 trillion 2026 military budget.
Military meeting or MAGA sales pitch?
“All-hands” high-level gatherings are routine, but this one stood out. It was a full court press to build consensus against “wokeness.”
“What made this meeting so notable is that today’s military is buffeted by an atmosphere of extreme partisan polarization,” wrote former National Security Council staffer Peter Feaver.
Commentators saluted the officers for listening with their poker faces on. It’s supposed to be a win for keeping politics out of the military. But many haven’t kept their cards close to their chests.
“Could have been an email,” one officer told Politico. Another described the conference as an “inexcusable strategic risk.”
“I suspect it’s not being taken well,” retired Lt. General Mark Hertling told MSNBC.
These comments expose that polarization hasn’t been staved off; it’s already running deep. It’s come up before, everywhere from shaving rules to the trans ban. The latter was opposed by 56 retired generals and admirals.
Take it to the streets, see who comes out on top
The sharpest flashpoint has been the National Guard’s occupation of major cities. Trump called them “training grounds” for troops. He states plainly that these takeovers, in Black and Chicano urban areas, go fist-in-glove with imperialism abroad.
Trump’s takeovers have escalated deportations and racist arrests. Although the National Guardsmen do not have powers of arrest themselves, they give backup to federal agents to go after people on petty or trumped-up charges. On Fight Back! Radio, a DC Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression activist described how agents have detained people for legally smoking weed.
But these occupations have prompted a wave of mass resistance. Protests have sprung up in every city that Trump has targeted, and even local politicians are speaking up. “Training grounds” indeed – for the united front against Trump.
The court system is taking notice. The Guardian reported that DC has seen unprecedented lows in indictments by grand juries on charges related to the Trump takeover, even if a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
Pushed on by the fightback from civilians, soldiers up and down the chain aren’t buying that there’s an “enemy within.” One officer told Politico that these deployments “distract warfighters.” At least eleven former generals criticized the Los Angeles takeover. The Guardian reported that dozens of troops deployed to LA voiced anger about being political pawns. One said the assignment was “shitty.”
“Disoriented, demoralized, and ineffective”
This isn’t to say there’s a revolt within the armed forces. But they face a different kind of problem – disorganization.
In Foreign Affairs, Peter Fever writes: “Over the course of their professional lives, these military officers are likely to serve a large chunk of their time under both parties. If they become identified as partisans of one, they may be viewed as enemies of the other—starting a cycle of partisan purges that leaves the military disoriented, demoralized, and ineffective, as has happened in other purge-prone militaries.”
To complicate things further, this divided force is running up against a fragmented legal system. The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the federal military from participating in general law enforcement without a state’s consent. It’s the basis for the California ruling against the occupation of Los Angeles. Effectively, cities in blue states have this legal avenue against the deployments. States like Louisiana, where Trump crony Governor Jeff Landry requested federal assistance, are a different terrain.
Polarization in the military, like in the rest of the U.S., is a sign of imperialism’s decline. Hegseth admitted to this decline when he compared the aftermath of Vietnam to the U.S.’s position today. In Vietnam, like in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. tried to rally other imperialists under the banner of “spreading democracy.” But out with these ambitious, ideological wars. In with the wars of naked and narrow self-interest. It’s the desperate gambit of an empire losing its grip. Mounting abuses of military power come with the territory. But, after all, Americans have resisted the likes of this since 1776.
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Netanyahu ordered drone attacks on Gaza-bound humanitarian aid boats off Tunisia, sources say
Netanyahu ordered drone attacks on Gaza-bound humanitarian aid boats off Tunisia, sources say
No one was hurt when two vessels that were part of a flotilla bound for Gaza mysteriously caught fire last month.James LaPorta (CBS News)
First lawsuit filed challenging Trump’s $100,000 H-1B visa fee
First lawsuit filed challenging Trump’s $100,000 H-1B visa fee
The lawsuit claims Trump does not have the authority to override the law that created the H-1B visa programme.Al Jazeera
Arkansas man seeks to have visa status restored after being arrested for ‘Opium’ perfume bottle
Arkansas man seeks to have visa status restored after being arrested for ‘Opium’ perfume bottle
Police thought bottle contained drugs and arrested Kapil Raghu, who was then taken into custody by IceCoral Murphy Marcos (The Guardian)
Hegseth Says Four ‘Narco-Terrorists’ Killed in Latest US Attack on Venezuela Boat
The US has attacked multiple Venezuelan boats in recent weeks, with US officials saying the goal of the strikes is regime change in Venezuela as opposed to the war on drugs. Along with the airstrikes of boats, a US destroyer boarded and seized a Venezuelan boat in mid-September, which the Venezuelan government insists was a tuna fishing vessel.
Hegseth Says Four ‘Narco-Terrorists’ Killed in Latest US Attack on Venezuela Boat - News From Antiwar.com
A day after President Trump informed Congress that the US is in a “non-international armed conflict” with drug cartels, the US carried out yet another strike on a Venezuelan boat in the Caribbean Sea, alleging it was loaded with drugs.News From Antiwar.com
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I hope not. I also see that one of the few smart things Maduro has done recently is to not give the USA an excuse to attack Venezuela.
It feels similar to what happened in the first Trump administration against Iran.
‘No, You Cannot!’ Kristi Noem Denied Bathroom Access at Illinois Government Building
‘No, You Cannot!’ Kristi Noem Denied Bathroom Access at Illinois Government Building
Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was barred from entering the Village of Broadview Municipal Building in Illinois to use the bathroom on Friday.Kathryn Wilkens (Mediaite)
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California resident who tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh jailed for eight years
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California resident who tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh jailed for eight years
Sophie Roske pleaded guilty in April to attempted assassination and faced potential sentence of life in prisonGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
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Is this the most embarrassing error in the DOE Climate Working Group Report? mistaking detection for emergence
Is this the most embarrassing error in the DOE Climate Working Group Report?
mistaking detection for emergenceAndrew Dessler (The Climate Brink)
This seems to be as close as they get:
This serves as a litmus test for the report’s scientific credibility. A commitment to scientific integrity requires the authors to produce a point-by-point response to the expert comments, overseen by an independent review editor.A refusal to do so would suggest that the report should be viewed as an advocacy piece rather than a scientific document, and its conclusions should be treated with caution.
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And if you want one with Mrs. McCarthy:
I feel bad for him, it's hard not for the comments to be political - he didn't choose this life for himself.
Gaming USA
Hello! I’m Evan Asher, and welcome to my official YouTube channel! Step into the thrilling world of Gaming USA, where you’ll join me and my friends in creating original live-action adventures and movies.YouTube
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My parents suck! I can't wait for them to die! I pray for it.
I can't imagine what having Mrs. McCarthy as a Mom is like. It has to be a nightmare.
I'm happy he's gaming and is YouTubing. His YTs need to join the Fediverse!
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Are EBIL CHINESE Solar panels to blame for Pakistan's water crisis? The answer will shock you! (tl;dr: NO)
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Kansas special session on trans law would be 'more important than redistricting'
Top Kansas Republicans want the Legislature to hold a special session to amend a state law related to transgender people, which they say is "even more important than redistricting."The move comes after the Kansas Supreme Court declined to hear an appeal from Attorney General Kris Kobach related to Senate Bill 180. That 2023 law is the subject of a legal dispute over whether it blocks trans people from changing their gender marker on their driver's license.
It also comes at a time when Republicans are moving toward calling a special session on redistricting with a goal of gerrymandering the congressional district maps.
Kansas special session on trans law would be 'more important than redistricting'
Top Kansas Republicans want a special session on SB 180, a law affecting transgender people, they say is "even more important than redistricting.", The Topeka Capital-Journal (The Topeka Capital-Journal)
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MAGA’s “Voter Fraud” Watchdog Votes in a Swing State. He Doesn’t Live There.
MAGA’s “Voter Fraud” Watchdog Votes in a Swing State. He Doesn’t Live There.
A long paper trail shows that Jack Posobiec casts a ballot in one state and lives in another.Jacqueline Sweet (Slate)
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Breaking down the justification behind Alberta Premier Danielle Smith’s ‘pipeline to nowhere’
Breaking down the justification behind Danielle Smith’s ‘pipeline to nowhere’
Oil production in Canada hit record highs last year, the Trans Mountain expansion pipeline is in operation, and more fossil fuel infrastructure keeps getting built, yet in Alberta Premier Danielle Smith's new pipeline pitch, the oil industry is nothi…Canada's National Observer
Small Hiking Camera
I'm wondering if there is a recommendation for a small camera to take hiking, or just for general convenience. I like to turn my phone off when I'm out so I can properly disconnect, plus I'm winding down my phone dependency in general.
Something to point and shoot would be nice, but I'm potentially interested in learning a bit about using some actual camera techniques.
casini palestrinesi e la rogna del popolo quando puzza di niente o di tutto
La giornata d’oggi è andata tutto ok, per me, senza incidenti costosi… motivo per cui è proprio il momento perfetto per fare la democristiana — come al solito, ma pericolosamente più del solito; si prega di godere a riguardo — parlando circa la più attuale attualità che ha visto il più sventurato resto del nostro […]
Privacy-focused code editors for beginners
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Treasury Department Has Plans To Mint Dollar Coin Featuring Donald Trump's Likeness
Treasury Department Has Plans To Mint Dollar Coin Featuring Donald Trump's Likeness | Defector
The United States Department of the Treasury has developed, to the brink of production, a dollar coin that features the face and likeness of President Donald Trump, according to a source within the Treasury who spoke with Defector, and as first repor…defector.com
Quantum Breakthrough Lets Individual Atoms Chat Like Never Before
Scientists at UNSW have achieved a breakthrough in quantum computing by entangling nuclear spins across distances of up to 20 nanometers in a silicon chip - the same scale as modern computer transistors[^1].The team demonstrated a two-qubit controlled-Z logic operation between the nuclear spins of two phosphorus atoms, with each atom binding separate electrons that mediate the interaction through exchange coupling[^1]. They proved genuine quantum entanglement by preparing and measuring Bell states with 76% fidelity[^1].
"The spin of an atomic nucleus is the cleanest, most isolated quantum object one can find in the solid state," said Professor Andrea Morello from UNSW[^2]. Previous methods required nuclei to be very close together and share a common electron, limiting scalability. This new approach uses separate electrons as "telephones" to let distant nuclei communicate[^2].
Lead author Dr. Holly Stemp explains the significance: "You have billions of silicon transistors in your pocket or in your bag right now, each one about 20 nanometers in size. This is our real technological breakthrough: getting our cleanest and most isolated quantum objects talking to each other at the same scale as existing electronic devices."[^2]
The method remains compatible with current semiconductor manufacturing, using phosphorus atoms implanted in ultra-pure silicon. Professor Morello notes: "Our method is remarkably robust and scalable. Here we just used two electrons, but in the future we can even add more electrons, and force them in an elongated shape, to spread out the nuclei even further."[^2]
[^1]: Science - Scalable entanglement of nuclear spins mediated by electron exchange
[^2]: SciTechDaily - "Like Talking on the Telephone" – Quantum Breakthrough Lets Individual Atoms Chat Like Never Before
“Like Talking on the Telephone” – Quantum Breakthrough Lets Individual Atoms Chat Like Never Before
Scientists have linked nuclear spins inside silicon chips, marking a leap toward scalable quantum computers. Engineers at UNSW have achieved a major breakthrough in quantum computing by creating what are known as “quantum entangled states.Colin Collins (SciTechDaily)
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Epstein Island’ children’s toys ad made using Sora 2 takes off online
The clip, styled like a 1990s commercial, features palm trees, waterfalls, hidden rooms, and an “Orange Man” action figure resembling president Donald Trump that repeats the phrase, “don’t release the files.”
It also includes references to secret surveillance cameras and a massage room, directly invoking allegations of sex trafficking and abuse tied to Epstein’s island.
Epstein, a financier with ties to powerful figures, died in jail in 2019 while facing federal charges. Trump has maintained that he had no involvement in Epstein's crimes.
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Bondi’s firing of federal prosecutor in Miami might upend big Medicare fraud trial
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi fired a federal prosecutor in Miami last week because he had posted critical blog commentary about Donald Trump during his first term as president — a poltically fraught decision that is threatening an upcoming trial.
Prosecutors, who are alleging millions of dollars in false insurance billing for medical equipment, telemedicine and other services, are expected to present more than 40
The White House is withholding billions of dollars of funding for mass transit projects in Chicago as part of Trump’s government shutdown revenge campaign against Democrats.
Trump’s Grim Reaper Yanks Billions From Blue City in New MAGA Plot
The White House is using the government shutdown as an excuse to halt infrastructure projects that have already been funded.Janna Brancolini (The Daily Beast)
Energy Department canceling over $7 billion in funding for clean energy projects
Conveniently, all canceled projects happen to be in states that voted for Harris.
This is pretty much textbook "the beatings will continue until morale improves."
White House budget director Russ Vought wrote on social media that the state, along with 15 others that backed former Vice President Kamala Harris' presidential bid last year, would see project funding cut. Harris beat Trump in the 2024 election here by more than four percentage points.U.S. Secretary of Energy Chris Wright said 223 projects were reviewed and, quote, "did not adequately advance the nation's energy needs, were not economically viable and would not provide a positive return on investment of taxpayer dollars," unquote.
"Riiiiiiiiiight." -- Dr. Evil
Megachurch pastor and ex-Trump adviser pleads guilty to child sexual abuse
Cindy Clemishire, 55, the woman who publicly identified herself as the victim of Morris’s sexual abuse, was present in the courtroom as he pleaded guilty. In a prepared statement she told him: “There is no such thing as consent from a 12-year-old child. We were never in an ‘inappropriate relationship.’ I was not a ‘young lady’ but a child. You committed a crime against me.”
A leaked transcript of a phone call revealed that in 2005 Morris tried to bribe Clemishire into silence, telling her to “put a price on it”.
He also became a spiritual adviser to Donald Trump. He joined the White House spiritual advisory committee during the first Trump presidency and was part of a campaign to mobilize evangelical voters for him in last year’s presidential campaign.
Trump also visited Gateway church in 2020 where he praised Morris and his senior team as “great people with a great reputation”.
Megachurch pastor and ex-Trump adviser pleads guilty to child sexual abuse
Robert Morris to serve only six months in county jail after charged with five counts of lewd or indecent acts with childEd Pilkington (The Guardian)
Fratelli di Crozza, stasera (3 ottobre 2025) debutta l’inedito “Giansalma Sminuzzi”: anticipazioni, personaggi e dove vederlo
Il venerdì sera del Nove si riaccende con Fratelli di Crozza, lo one-man show di Maurizio Crozza in prima serata e in streaming su Discovery+. La nuova stagione mette al centro l’attualità italiana e internazionale con l’inconfondibile satira politica e sociale del comico ligure, pronta a introdurre nuove maschere accanto ai cavalli di battaglia.
ANTICIPAZIONI E NUOVI PERSONAGGI: Fratelli di Crozza, stasera (3 ottobre 2025) debutta l’inedito “Giansalma Sminuzzi”: anticipazioni, personaggi e dove vederlo
Fratelli di Crozza anticipazioni 3 ottobre 2025: debutta Giansalma Sminuzzi
Fratelli di Crozza torna sul Nove: debutta l’inedito “Giansalma Sminuzzi” con il segmento Grado Zero. Anticipazioni e nuovi personaggi.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
Manifestazioni pro Gaza oggi in tutta Italia: i cortei e i blocchi
Proseguono oggi le manifestazioni pro Gaza in tutta Italia, in concomitanza con lo sciopero generale indetto da Usb, Cgil, Cub e Sgb e che coinvolge settori pubblici e privati. In numerose città si registrano cortei, blocchi stradali legati alla protesta contro il blocco di Israele alla missione della Global Sumud Flotilla.
LEGGI L'ARTICOLO: Manifestazioni pro Gaza oggi in tutta Italia: i cortei e i blocchi
Manifestazioni pro Gaza oggi: cortei e blocchi in tutta Italia
Sciopero generale e cortei pro Gaza oggi. Piazze piene a Milano, Bologna, Pisa, Messina, Livorno, Roma, Firenze, Napoli.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
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Caserta. Libri: "La soluzione" di Pucci Romano
È un evento degno di nota e fortemente voluto dalla Dirigente del Liceo Manzoni e presidente CTS Caserta, dott.ssa Adele Vairo, quello che...Redazione Caserta24ore (Blogger)
Re: Caserta
Ciao, ho creato ora una nuova categoria dedicata a Caserta. In futuro puoi pubblicare direttamente lì i post che riguardano Caserta e provincia
Andiamo a trovare un albero
La fuori il mondo sta diventando di cemento.
La fuori chi corre corre su asfalto.
La fuori ci sono ancora Alberi che resistono.
Quando corriamo lo facciamo all'aperto, i più fortunati possono correre in un bosco o in montagna, altri lo fanno in un parco cittadino.
Quello che accomuna i vari ambienti sono gli alberi gli alberi sono esseri viventi magnifici che ci aiutano in molti aspetti della vita.
Indipendemente dal nostro livello di esperienza nella corsa quando siamo demotivati nell'uscire per un motivo o per l'altro pensiamo ad una cosa assurda: ora esco e vado a trovare gli alberi.
Loro sono sempre li che ci aspettano e allugnare un po' per conoscere nuovi alberi ci rafforza ci motiva, ci rilassa.
Forse è da matti pensare di uscire per andare a trovare gli alberi ma in fondo corriamo per noi la normalità è la nostra normalità quella di chi non corre non ci importa!
Buone corse
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Vance accuses Democrats of shutting down America to protect AOC’s political power | Newsinterpretation
Vance accuses Democrats of shutting down America to protect AOC’s political power | Newsinterpretation
Vice President JD Vance addressed reporters at the White House and pointed directly at Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Vance said Schumer listened toPearl Croft (News Interpretation)
Israel declares 600,000 in Gaza City 'military targets,' cuts off lifeline from south
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At least 600,000 Palestinians are currently under siege in Gaza City amid the Israeli army's ongoing bombardment, encirclement, and expulsion campaign, the New Arab reported on 2 October.On Wednesday, Israeli Defense Minister Israel Katz announced that all Palestinians remaining in the city must abandon their homes, pass Israeli checkpoints, and move to tent encampments in the south, stressing that anyone who stays will be considered a “terrorist” or “terrorist supporter” and targeted by invading Israeli forces.
Now is the “last opportunity for Gaza residents” to move south, Katz said.
Israeli forces have currently blocked all travel northward on the Rashid coastal road, cutting off the city's last surviving lifeline for humanitarian aid and preventing Palestinians who had moved south temporarily in search of food and shelter from returning.
“The only safe road for bringing in food and medicine has been cut. Announcements and speeches mean nothing if aid cannot reach civilians,” stated Mahmoud Basal, the spokesperson of the Gaza civil defense, in a press statement.
While the Israeli military expected a mass exodus to the south, between 600,000 and 700,000 Palestinians remain in Gaza City, the UN estimated
Israel declares 600,000 in Gaza City 'military targets,' cuts off lifeline from south
Israeli tanks cut northward travel on the Rashid Road, tightening the siege on Gaza City and intensifying pressure for Palestinians to leave their homesthecradle.co
Banking industry’s net zero alliance shuts down amid faltering climate commitments
Banking industry’s net zero alliance shuts down amid faltering climate commitments
NZBA had nearly 150 members but banks began leaving when Trump was re-elected on promise to ‘drill, baby, drill’Damien Gayle (The Guardian)
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She Sent Money to Family in Gaza. ICE Claimed It’s Evidence She Supports Hamas.
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Since coming to the U.S. from the West Bank in 2016, Leqaa Kordia has sent thousands of dollars to family living in Palestine. Some was money she earned working as a waitress; some was from her mother and neighbors in Paterson, New Jersey, who would “pool it together to send to help out our family,” Kordia explained in a recent court affidavit.Remittances like these are a typical part of the financial lives of immigrant families. But since Kordia, 32, was arrested in March by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the Trump administration has pointed to these wire transfers as evidence that she potentially supports Hamas, in a bid to keep her at an ICE detention center in Texas.
“It was quite upsetting to hear the government claim that any transfer of money to Palestine and/or Palestinians was inherently suspicious,” Kordia’s mother, a naturalized U.S. citizen, wrote in another affidavit.
Kordia’s arrest came days after immigration agents grabbed Columbia University activist Mahmoud Khalil in New York City. In error-riddled statements and social media blasts, the Department of Homeland Security emphasized Kordia’s participation in a pro-Palestine protest a year earlier, near Columbia.
Unlike Khalil and other high-profile activists targeted for deportation, however, Kordia remains in custody despite findings from two different judges — one in immigration court, one in federal district court — that she should be released. She’s lost significant weight while in the Prairieland Detention Facility, near Dallas–Fort Worth, which has roaches, broken showers, and barely any halal food suitable for a practicing Muslim, Kordia alleged in a habeas petition.
To keep her at Prairieland, government attorneys tried to paint Kordia as a potential Hamas supporter and thus a danger if released on bond. In immigration court, they pointed to wire transfers Kordia sent to Gaza and elsewhere in the Middle East over the years, without any evidence that these funds were for anything other than fuel, water, or medical expenses for her family members.
“She didn’t always have a lot of money to send, but she sent whatever she could,” wrote one of Kordia’s cousins, who lives in Florida, in another affidavit.
It took weeks for Kordia’s legal team to track down family members who received remittances as far back as 2017. Some were still in Gaza and the West Bank, while others had evacuated to Egypt and Dubai.
“In 2022, during one of the aggressions in Gaza, my building was destroyed and we needed money to rebuild,” wrote Kordia’s aunt, who ran a hair salon out of her home in Gaza before fleeing to Cairo. “My sister was in great need after that incident, so I asked Leqaa for her assistance in sending money,” Kordia’s mother explained.
After Kordia’s attorneys submitted these sworn statements, ICE attorneys switched arguments, and they barely addressed her wire transfers at a hearing in late August, according to Sarah Sherman-Stokes, one of Kordia’s attorneys.
“In the blink of an eye, it became a non-issue,” Sherman-Stokes, a professor at Boston University’s immigrants’ rights clinic, told The Intercept. “Because it was such a charade from the beginning.”
From the start, the Trump administration’s case against Kordia has been slippery and ever-changing.
“What we’re seeing is that the Department [of Homeland Security] is throwing whatever they can at the wall and seeing what sticks,” Sherman-Stokes said.
The sole formal claim against Kordia in immigration court is that she overstayed her student visa, which she let expire in 2022 on the mistaken belief that her mother’s family visa petition gave Kordia lawful status. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services approved this petition in May 2021, according to court filings, which Kordia thought meant she was close to getting a green card.
But soon after President Donald Trump returned to the White House, Homeland Security Investigations, the intelligence division of ICE, devoted considerable resources to investigating Kordia for purported “national security violations,” according to court records.
Starting in early March, agents from HSI’s Newark office put a trace on Kordia’s WhatsApp account, interviewed her family and friends in Paterson, and even got a four-page report from the New York City Police Department about her arrest at a protest in April 2024, along with dozens of other people.
Since the charges were quickly dropped, Kordia’s arrest report was supposed to be sealed, and New York laws prohibit NYPD from assisting federal agencies with civil immigration enforcement. The city’s Department of Investigation told The Intercept that its inquiry about NYPD’s sharing of records with HSI is ongoing, and a public report should be issued by the end of the year.
HSI also subpoenaed Kordia’s records from Western Union and MoneyGram, which showed Kordia sent money abroad as recently as February 2025.
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Once in ICE custody, it was Kordia’s legal burden to prove to an immigration judge that she should be released on bond. At a hearing in April, ICE attorneys pointed to her protest arrest and remittances to argue that she was a danger to the community and potentially a Hamas supporter.“They first tried to argue that exercising her free speech rights by attending a protest somehow made her a danger to U.S. security,” Sherman-Stokes explained, and when that didn’t work, “they moved on to suggesting that she was sending nefarious money transactions to people in the Middle East.”
From the start, the immigration judge didn’t buy it.
“In the absence of evidence of any connection to terrorist organizations, the Court cannot find that [Kordia] is supporting a terrorist organization by sending money to a family member in Palestine,” wrote Immigration Judge Tara Naselow-Nahas in an April ruling that ordered Kordia released on a $20,000 bond.
ICE attorneys appealed that order to the Board of Immigration Appeals, which, like immigration courts, sits within the Department of Justice rather than the federal judiciary, and Kordia remained at Prairieland.
While the BIA deliberated, a magistrate judge in federal court found in late June that Kordia’s due process rights were likely violated by her ongoing detention and recommended that she be released. But a district court judge ordered the magistrate judge to hear additional argument from the government.
In early August, the BIA remanded the bond order back to the immigration judge for “more complete findings of fact” about Kordia’s money transfers.
“It is a testament to the entrenched nature of anti-Palestinian sentiment that the mere fact of sending remittances to family abroad was enough for DHS and the immigration appeals body to aver that Leqaa was supposedly a threat,” said Naz Ahmad, co-director of the Creating Law Enforcement Accountability & Responsibility project at CUNY law school, which also represents Kordia.
The BIA’s remand order set off the quest to track down Kordia’s family members for affidavits swearing they had not used any of her money to support Hamas.
“Not only do we have to contact them to prove they are who say they are, and that they received money for a medical procedure or because their house was bombed during the Israeli military campaign,” said Sherman-Stokes. They also had to ask each one a “horrible question,” she said: “Can you prove to me that you’re not a terrorist?”
Kordia’s brother, a tailor in Ramallah in the West Bank, wrote in an affidavit that the money she sent helped him open his shop in 2021, where he sells curtains. Other transfers helped cover rent, gas, electricity, and hospital bills for Kordia’s niece.
A cousin, who now lives in Dubai, wrote that a February 2025 transfer helped pay for a medical procedure. Three other cousins in Gaza and Cairo attested that Kordia’s transfers helped cover living expenses and medical bills.
“To further insist that Leqaa justify every single penny sent to a family member overseas, at a time when some of the same are living through a genocide, only underscored the pernicious nature of the government’s empty allegations,” said Ahmad.
In her own affidavit, Kordia wrote that, since 2023, she’s lost “nearly 175 family members — almost an entire generation — to the ongoing genocide in Gaza.”
In late August, the immigration judge again found that Kordia’s remittances were not grounds to keep her at Prairieland.
“The evidence overwhelmingly demonstrates that the money was sent to [Kordia’s] extended family members who were in desperate need of financial assistance,” wrote Naselow-Nahas.
Again, Naselow-Nahas ordered Kordia’s release on a $20,000 bond, and again, the Trump administration appealed to the BIA. Now, ICE attorneys argue she’s a flight risk because she consulted with an attorney before surrendering in March.
“Adding insult to injury, the government abandoned its ‘dangerousness’ claim based on the remittances and swiftly pivoted to a flimsy ‘flight risk’ argument to prolong Leqaa’s confinement punitively,” said Sadaf Hasan, an attorney at Muslim Advocates, another legal nonprofit that represents her. “These tactics reflect the dehumanizing and racist imperatives of the administration to weaponize immigration laws to punish Palestinian identity and the growing movement for Palestinian advocacy.”
“They have so little evidence, yet they continue to appeal and appeal and appeal.”Sherman-Stokes said that, based on more than a decade working in deportation defense, it’s not unusual for the government to make spurious arguments or offer little evidence.
“What’s uncommon here is the government’s unwillingness to admit defeat,” she said. “They have so little evidence, yet they continue to appeal and appeal and appeal in the face of an immigration judge finding not once but twice that she should be released,” Sherman-Stokes said.
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The government’s targeting of Palestinian people or Muslim immigrants is also hardly new. From the post-9/11 “Muslim registry” to the first Trump administration’s “Muslim ban,” Middle Eastern immigrants have faced additional scrutiny for decades.“But it certainly seems to have escalated,” said Sherman-Stokes, who called the government’s arguments about Kordia’s money transfers “vague and spurious claims that are really grounded in racism and xenophobia.”
Sherman-Stokes said it was also unusual for Kordia to be held in detention indefinitely based just on her overstayed visa, without any criminal conviction.
“She exercised her First Amendment rights along with thousands of other people,” Sherman-Stokes said. “This is someone we should welcome into the country, not demonize.”
“This is someone we should welcome into the country, not demonize.”Kordia’s habeas petition for release is currently pending in federal court, and on Tuesday she filed a brief urging her immediate release despite the government’s “procedural gamesmanship.” Briefs are due to the BIA next week, and Kordia’s next hearing in immigration court is scheduled for October 23.
After more than six months in Prairieland, Kordia is eager to be back with her family in New Jersey. Before moving to the U.S., she and her mother were apart for nearly two decades, since Kordia stayed with her father in the West Bank after her parents divorced. On top of working multiple jobs and collecting money for family abroad, Kordia helped look after her half-brother, Omar, who has autism, and helped her mother, who has limited mobility and other health issues, with errands and cleaning.
“Against my will, I was separated from my mother for nearly twenty years,” Kordia wrote. “Being separated from her again is unbearable.”
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snooggums
in reply to themachinestops • • •While I get the underlying point, any schedule for changing prices is going to cause a proportional gap as well. Even changing annually will have points in time where purchasing power relative to the dollar changes.
Plus constantly changing would seem like they are trying to get more at certain times. Honestly there isn't a pricing scheme that involves the US dollar that isn't just converting local currency to dollars at the time of purchase and that is a whole can of worms too.
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Keegen
in reply to snooggums • • •I don't really care what they do, I just want them to do ANYTHING. Either update the regional pricing more regularly or just get rid of the damned thing and let me pay in USD/EUR. There are some rare publishers that will actually go out of their way to manually set the regional pricing to make it reasonable but most of them just follow the default suggested Steam one leading to massively overpriced games. I'm Polish and at this point I only buy games on sales, the final price still often comes close to what the game would cost me in USD/EUR without any sale.
Edit: Valve themselves specifically says in their SteamWorks documentation on pricing for developers
and yet the prices remain the exact same since they introduced the Regional Pricing Recommendations in 2022.
Pricing (Steamworks Documentation)
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Echo Dot
in reply to snooggums • • •The whole thing is stupid anyway.
If I have a game that I'm selling for $30 that doesn't necessarily mean that I convert into the local currency and sell that game for $30 in Nigeria (I have no idea what currency they use in Nigeria).
I might not be able to sell the game for $30 in Nigeria because that might be 3 months of the annual income. But I don't want to totally give up on the Nigerian market so I sell the game for $5, that way at least I'm still selling the game for some money.
To be honest I would probably prefer not to be basin my game pricing on the US dollar anyway right now. It doesn't seem like the most stable currency. Not many never was anyway.
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JayGray91🐉🍕
in reply to Aatube • • •Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the quote, but I'm pretty sure regional pricing have been around at least since 2010s.
Maybe I should RTFA
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in reply to PattyMcB • • •Just sail the high sees like a smart person.
If you really want to support the devs, cut out the middle man and send them money directly.
It's not a difficult concept.
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in reply to w3dd1e • • •I think what is talked about is coutries like Poland where the currency is weaker than the $ but they still cave to pay more.
Having to pay less when earning less is good but paying more while earning less is bad.
And the problem with at least poland exists now for a few years
Edit: i should have first read the article. And ut was indeed about poland where they pay (converted) like 100 for a 70$ game while earning less
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in reply to squaresinger • • •it's the devs/publishers yes
some time ago Palworld devs lowered the regional price for Poland as they noticed it was relatively more expensive for Poles to buy the game, they got a lot of praise for that
squaresinger
in reply to shneancy • • •I think Poland is just in the crappy position of not being on developers/publishers radars and being lumped in with other nearby countries when it comes to pricing.
I've heard similar complaints of polish people for all sorts of platforms, not only steam.
And I think them not having the euro probably adds to the situation since the value of the polish zloty has been going up compared to the euro.
So if publishers set the price to the euro equivalent in 2022, and the Zloty rose by 20% compared to the Euro in the mean time, you end up with the prices that are there now.
The difference to the USD over the same time is even more stark at 36%.
whereyaaat
in reply to themachinestops • • •Useful idiots deserve to be charged as much as they're willing to pay.
Anything less, and they will legitimately get upset at the business not ripping them off.