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Inside the web infrastructure revolt over Google’s AI Overviews - Ars Technica


It could be a consequential act of quiet regulation. Cloudflare, a web infrastructure company, has updated millions of websites’ robots.txt files in an effort to force Google to change how it crawls them to fuel its AI products and initiatives.

We spoke with Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince about what exactly is going on here, why it matters, and what the web might soon look like. But to get into that, we need to cover a little background first.

The new change, which Cloudflare calls its Content Signals Policy, happened after publishers and other companies that depend on web traffic have cried foul over Google’s AI Overviews and similar AI answer engines, saying they are sharply cutting those companies’ path to revenue because they don’t send traffic back to the source of the information.

There have been lawsuits, efforts to kick-start new marketplaces to ensure compensation, and more—but few companies have the kind of leverage Cloudflare does. Its products and services back something close to 20 percent of the web, and thus a significant slice of the websites that show up on search results pages or that fuel large language models.

“Almost every reasonable AI company that’s out there is saying, listen, if it’s a fair playing field, then we’re happy to pay for content,” Prince said. “The problem is that all of them are terrified of Google because if Google gets content for free but they all have to pay for it, they are always going to be at an inherent disadvantage.”

This is happening because Google is using its dominant position in search to ensure that web publishers allow their content to be used in ways that they might not otherwise want it to.

in reply to Otter Raft

The real story here is the insane monopoly power that Cloudflare has. Even updating robots.txt files without your input (though it did require opt-in at some point). One monopoly power trying to fuck over the other one is not the win you think it is.


Frieren - Capitolo 17


Per cercare di evitare il peggio, questa volta i tre soggettoni dell'avventura si sono effettivamente preparati decentemente...

stuff.octt.eu.org/2025/10/frie…



Frieren - Capitolo 16


Dopo la visita di Draht a Frieren, le cose si mettono male un po' per tutti in un lampo... e per colpa di chi, se non dei demoni? Ebbene...

stuff.octt.eu.org/2025/10/frie…





Frieren - Capitolo 15


Ciò che in questo nuovo capitolo immediatamente si scopre è che, mentre i demoni servi di Alba hanno ovviamente le loro intenzioni nascoste...

stuff.octt.eu.org/2025/10/frie…




Visual glitching on fedora 42


Sometimes windows will just look like this? Minimizing or changing tabs usually fixes it, sometimes resizing. If I select a folder or a menu option it usually looks normal while highlighted. Happens most often with folders and with the software manager. Also happens to the text in Nicotine+ sometimes and the text editor. Never seems to happen to Firefox or VLC. I don't even know what to call what is happening visually here so I haven't been able to find anything just by googling.
in reply to the_robot_from_planet_danger [comrade/them]

i think i’ve managed to get to this state exactly once, but i don’t remember how i got there and what machine it was. i just know that it was a machine i tried multiple distros on and so i can confidently say that, in my case, it was not a hardware, but a software issue. i hope that nothing of value is broken for you either. good luck!
in reply to the_robot_from_planet_danger [comrade/them]

The fact that screenshots have the same artifact suggests it's an issue within the GTK or GNOME framework. I would think if it was an issue with the GPU or drivers the screenshot would probably look normal or at least glitched in a different way.
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Come scrivere in una pagina web


Non possiamo scrivere in una pagina web usando direttamente la tastiera come facciamo in un documento qualsiasi, ma dobbiamo prima creare un documento HTML e poi salvare con estensione .htm o.html. Se si tratta di un testo dove non compaiono accenti, apici, pedici, apriamo l’editor e poi digitiamo il testo con la tastiera, se nel testo compaiono accenti o apici e pedici allora abbiamo bisogno degli accenti e quindi delle entity che sono costrutti SGML; nel caso di apici e pedici abbiamo bisogno di tag che sevono proprio a questo e che sono testo oppuretesto.

Facciamo degli esempi

Voglio creare una pagina contenente il seguente testo:

L’energia cinetica di un corpo è l’energia di movimento del corpo.

In questa riga di testo compare una e con l’accento. Come faccio a scriverla nella pagina web? Uso la entity è



Wikipedia Says AI Is Causing a Dangerous Decline in Human Visitors


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Wikipedia Says AI Is Causing a Dangerous Decline in Human Visitors


The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that hosts Wikipedia, says that it’s seeing a significant decline in human traffic to the online encyclopedia because more people are getting the information that’s on Wikipedia via generative AI chatbots that were trained on its articles and search engines that summarize them without actually clicking through to the site.

The Wikimedia Foundation said that this poses a risk to the long term sustainability of Wikipedia.

“We welcome new ways for people to gain knowledge. However, AI chatbots, search engines, and social platforms that use Wikipedia content must encourage more visitors to Wikipedia, so that the free knowledge that so many people and platforms depend on can continue to flow

Sustainably,” the Foundation’s Senior Director of Product Marshall Miller said in a blog post. “With fewer visits to Wikipedia, fewer volunteers may grow and enrich the content, and fewer individual donors may support this work.”

Ironically, while generative AI and search engines are causing a decline in direct traffic to Wikipedia, its data is more valuable to them than ever. Wikipedia articles are some of the most common training data for AI models, and Google and other platforms have for years mined Wikipedia articles to power its Snippets and Knowledge Panels, which siphon traffic away from Wikipedia itself.

“Almost all large language models train on Wikipedia datasets, and search engines and social media platforms prioritize its information to respond to questions from their users,” Miller said. That means that people are reading the knowledge created by Wikimedia volunteers all over the internet, even if they don’t visit wikipedia.org— this human-created knowledge has become even more important to the spread of reliable information online.”

Miller said that in May 2025 Wikipedia noticed unusually high amounts of apparently human traffic originating mostly from Brazil. He didn’t go into details, but explained this caused the Foundation to update its bot detections systems.

“After making this revision, we are seeing declines in human pageviews on Wikipedia over the past few months, amounting to a decrease of roughly 8% as compared to the same months in 2024,” he said. “We believe that these declines reflect the impact of generative AI and social media on how people seek information, especially with search engines providing answers directly to searchers, often based on Wikipedia content.”

Miller told me in an email that Wikipedia has policies for third-party bots that crawl its content, such as specifying identifying information and following its robots.txt, and limits on request rate and concurrent requests.

“For obvious reasons, we can’t share details publicly about how exactly we block and detect bots,” he said. “In the case of the adjustment we made to data over the past few months, we observed a substantial increase over the level of traffic we expected, centering on a particular region, and there wasn’t a clear reason for it. When our engineers and analysts investigated the data, they discovered a new pattern of bot behavior, designed to appear human. We then adjusted our detection systems and re-applied them to the past several months of data. Because our bot detection has evolved over time, we can’t make exact comparisons – but this adjustment is showing the decline in human pageviews.”

The Foundation’s findings align with other research we’ve seen recently. In July, the Pew Research Center found that only 1 percent of Google searches resulted in the users clicking on the link in the AI summary, which takes them to the page Google is summarizing. In April, the Foundation previously reported that it was getting hammered by AI scrapers, a problem that has also plagued libraries, archives, and museums. Wikipedia editors are also acutely aware of the risk generative AI poses to the reliability of Wikipedia articles if its use is not moderated effectively.
Human pageviews to all language versions of Wikipedia since September 2021, with revised pageviews since April 2025 Image: Wikimedia Foundation.
“These declines are not unexpected. Search engines are increasingly using generative AI to provide answers directly to searchers rather than linking to sites like ours,” Miller said. “And younger generations are seeking information on social video platforms rather than the open web. This gradual shift is not unique to Wikipedia. Many other publishers and content platforms are reporting similar shifts as users spend more time on search engines, AI chatbots, and social media to find information. They are also experiencing the strain that these companies are putting on their infrastructure.”

Miller said that the Foundation is “enforcing policies, developing a framework for attribution, and developing new technical capabilities” in order to ensure third-parties responsibly access and reuse Wikipedia content, and continues to "strengthen" its partnerships with search engines and other large “re-users.” The Foundation, he said, is also working on bringing Wikipedia content to younger audiences via YouTube, TikTok, Roblox, and Instagram.

However, Miller also called on users to “choose online behaviors that support content integrity and content creation.”

“When you search for information online, look for citations and click through to the original source material,” he said. “Talk with the people you know about the importance of trusted, human curated knowledge, and help them understand that the content underlying generative AI was created by real people who deserve their support.”




in reply to jackeroni

The West never had it in the first place. The Red Scare matched and even surpassed any anticapitalist speech suppression in the USSR yet it was hailed as the West "defending" its "freedoms" from the totalitarian communist ideology.
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in reply to jankforlife

It is all propaganda whether you agreed with the message or not. I like the option to have competing propagandas that I can sift through and construct a more cohesive point of view. Evidently though I'm in the minority. Some people prefer to have only propaganda that they agree with and call it news.

in reply to Dr_Vindaloo

This guy wasn't a journalist, just a propaganda machine employee with a "journalist" sticker.
in reply to Lembot_0004

Bruh, you're doing your hasbara too hard
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in reply to Lembot_0004

Look man, I'm not necessarily a fan of Russia either (I'm not sure how to feel one way or the other), but you need to be prepared for the world to hold you to the same standards you hold others to. If it's okay to kill a non-combatant who you consider to be a propagandist, don't be surprised when those you consider to be "real journalists" end up being targeted by those who think they are propagandists. Don't normalize that.
in reply to jankforlife

People are so brainwashed they acually think it's ok when Ukraine does it. We're fucked.



Bodycam: ICE Officer Arrested for DUI w/ Kids in Car






Billionaire Illinois Gov. Pritzker wins blackjack pot of $1.4M in Las Vegas


Pritzker, an heir to the Hyatt hotel chain, has a net worth of $3.9 billion, tied for No. 382 on the Forbes 400 list of the nation’s richest people. A campaign spokesperson said via email that Pritzker planned to donate the money to charity but did not respond when asked why he hadn’t already done so.

https://apnews.com/article/gambling-pritzker-las-vegas-blackjack-tax-return-692a3dfff822f70faa74281f936ddc47



What do you still use reddit for?


Are you 100% lemmy/mbin/piefed for your forum/thread life or are you still using reddit for something?
in reply to n7gifmdn

100% Lemmy. If I end up on reddit, it’s because I googled something.



Wasm 3.0 Completed - WebAssembly




Are Hard Drives Getting Better? Let’s Revisit the Bathtub Curve


I always love Backblaze's analysis. It's how I learned I wasn't special for having those notorious 4TB Seagate drives (I want to say DM003) shit the bed in short order.

Increased longevity is undoubtedly a plus; however, whether doing a RAID rebuild or just being out a 24TB drive (hopefully, you've got a backup), that's a lot of time and effort to get back to square one.

If you’ve hung around Backblaze for a while (and especially if you’re a Drive Stats fan), you may have heard us talking about the bathtub curve. In Drive Failure Over Time: The Bathtub Curve Is Leaking, we challenged one of reliability engineering’s oldest ideas—the notion that drive failures trace a predictable U-shaped curve over time.

But, the data didn’t agree. Our fleet showed dips, spikes, and plateaus that refused to behave. Now, after 13 years of continuous data, the picture is clearer—and stranger.

The bathtub curve isn’t just leaking, and the shape of reliability might look more like an ankle-high wall at the entrance to a walk-in shower. The neat story of early failures, calm middle age, and gentle decline no longer fits the world our drives inhabit. Drives are getting better—or, more precisely, the Drive Stats dataset says that our drives are performing better in data center environments.

So, let’s talk about what our current “bathtub curve” looks like, and how it compares to earlier generations of the analysis.

The TL;DR: Hard drives are getting better, and lasting longer.



New Oklahoma schools superintendent rescinds mandate for Bible instruction in schools | CNN


TL;DR: piece-of-shit Evangelical anti-woke superintendent who was busted watching porn in his office on a conference call resigned last month.

New Superintendent: Yeah nah we're not gonna do the bible thing.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/17/us/oklahoma-schools-bible-mandate-rescinded



Teachers get an F on AI-generated lesson plans


When teachers rely on commonly used artificial intelligence chatbots to devise lesson plans, it does not result in more engaging, immersive, or effective learning experiences compared with existing techniques, we found in our [url=https://citejournal.org/

When teachers rely on commonly used artificial intelligence chatbots to devise lesson plans, it does not result in more engaging, immersive, or effective learning experiences compared with existing techniques, we found in our recent study. The AI-generated civics lesson plans we analyzed also left out opportunities for students to explore the stories and experiences of traditionally marginalized people.

The allure of generative AI as a teaching aid has caught the attention of educators. A Gallup survey from September 2025 found that 60 percent of K-12 teachers are already using AI in their work, with the most common reported use being teaching preparation and lesson planning.

Without the assistance of AI, teachers might spend hours every week crafting lessons for their students. With AI, time-stretched teachers can generate detailed lesson plans featuring learning objectives, materials, activities, assessments, extension activities, and homework tasks in a matter of seconds.

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God Mode: Vatican AI summit wants global AI rules


Recently, Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff warned investors to avoid the "false prophets" of AI. Now, the Pope has brought real theological weight to the bot debate, hosting a Vatican seminar that called for global AI regulation and fair distribution of the technology's benefits.

The seminar [PDF] – dubbed Digital Rerum Novarum: Artificial Intelligence for Peace, Social Justice, and Integral Human Development – was organized by the Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences together with the University of Notre Dame.

The newly installed, American-born Pope Leo XIV, said, in a message to the attendees, that while it has great potential, AI poses deep questions, not least how to create a "more authentically just and human global society."

More bluntly, he quoted his predecessor to remind his flock, that "While undoubtedly an exceptional product of human genius, AI is 'above all else a tool.'"



The Worst Bug In Games Is Now Gone Forever by Two Minute Papers [Video, 11:41 min]


Invidious: inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=VOORiyi…

YouTube: youtu.be/VOORiyip4_c

The video talks about a new paper in a techniqe to eliminate clipping of vectors. The only problem is, it is extremely computational expensive. I compare this to RayTracing, which will be viable in the future only if all the tools implement it. I assume the hardware chips that support RayTracing could be used for this new technology too, but that is just my personal assumption here.

I left the original title of the video, as it would be editorial otherwise.

Video description (only relevant parts):


📝Paper: drive.google.com/file/d/1OrOKJH_im1L4j1cJB18sfvNHEbZVSqjL/view
Code and examples are available here: github.com/st-tech/ppf-contact-solver
Guide on how to try it: drive.google.com/file/d/1n068Ai_hlfgapf2xkAutOHo3PkLpJXA4/view

Sources:
youtube.com/watch?v=5GDIoshj9Rw
youtube.com/watch?v=X53VuYLP0VY
youtube.com/shorts/x0WjJgotCXU
youtube.com/watch?v=Qu4Of18Kf2M

📝 My paper on simulations that look almost like reality is available for free here:
rdcu.be/cWPfD

Or this is the orig. Nature Physics link with clickable citations:
nature.com/articles/s41567-022-01788-5




Zohran Mamdani Has Pushed the Liberal Consensus on Palestine. The Left Isn’t Satisfied.


I'm not trying to start another Zohran struggle session, time will tell if he sells out. The article itself isn't even particularly bad, what I want to discuss is the liberal framing it uses.

Taking the democrats seriously. Taking Cuomo seriously. But the part that really bothers me is the idea that Zohran pushed the liberal consensus on Palestine. Little-known fact: the world outside of NYC actually does exist and the people in it have been hating "Israel" more and more as well. Zohran is popular partly because he reflected a changing opinion many had on "Israel", not the other way around. Journalists understand cause and effect challenge.

#slop
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in reply to LeninWeave [none/use name, any]

Zohrans campaign did not just receive NYC support it received massive global support over his stance on Palestine, which in turn boosted his NYC support. He gained everything by going hard on Israel and now throws that all away for some Zionist donors.


Governor Newsom announces affordable CalRx® insulin, $11 a pen, will soon be available for purchase


As the first and only state contracting for its own affordable insulin, Governor Gavin Newsom today announced that CalRx® biosimilar insulin glargine pens will be available to consumers in California beginning January 1, 2026. This launch marks a significant step in the state’s ongoing effort to lower prescription drug prices and improve medication access statewide.

Through an agreement secured by Civica Rx — a nonprofit generic drug manufacturer — with Biocon Biologics, Californians will have access to an interchangeable biosimilar insulin glargine pen offered under the CalRx brand and pricing.

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Has anyone tried WinBoat with mod loaders, or system monitors like FPSVR?


I've been hearing some good things about WinBoat, so I am wondering if anyone has tried to use it with game mod loaders. Like the windows version of Satisfactory Mod Manager (I know there is a linux one that works perfectly and exactly like the windows version but as this is a very popular game maybe someone did it this route) or, the one I am really interested in right now, Raft Mod Loader. Raft Mod Loader page suggests 1. Bottles and less recommended 2. straight wine. I would like to use a single solution for most of my windows carry overs, ie; steam is one stop for ~90% of my games flat and VR, lutris is one stop for 2 non steam games atm, but I am uncovering more as I go.

I also have 2 windows only apps for VR - FPSVR and Desktop+(this is free), obviously they will not want to port their apps to linux for such a small user base. Has anyone tried these in WinBoat?

in reply to lost_faith

I don't understand why anyone would use this. Its not just running Windows apps in a Windows environment like WINE, it's a full installation of Windows in a VM, including all of the awful parts of running Windows. It's infinitely simpler to just use Windows in another partition.
in reply to artyom

I am dual booting as I get VR to a better level, but I want that cancer off my system completely one day. Right now I have no monitors for vr performance in linux (any suggestions? FPSVR is my monitor for windows in VR) but it "feels" like often I am getting less than 20 fps (eye fatigue and strain that does not occur in the same games on windows) tho it looks like it is at least 35-60fps in the recorded playback, it just feels off.

I am hoping for some feed back on this from people that have used it. I could use bottles but doesn't that also require a windows "install" or container type thing like this? I am just exploring different avenues to get things working and this looks promising, tho a VM may make a bit of a dent in my old ryzen 7-3800 and I am fairly confidant if I had an amd card instead of the RTX 4070ti super my experience would be better but that is a cost I cannot swallow yet and I need a new cpu more. In the end I will prolly try to get wine and bottles working but a simple to get running app like this could be the short term answer

in reply to lost_faith

I want that cancer off my system completely one day


This does not get the cancer off your system, it just installs it inside of Linux. That's the point I'm trying to make.

Getting the cancer out involves what Steam does, running the API calls through a translation layer like WINE or Proton. Bottles is just a frontend for that.

I'm not sure what the state of VR is in Linux, other than "not good".

in reply to artyom

I'm hoping to find linux versions one day. If I didn't love vr so much I wouldn't need windows at all as all the flat games I have tried work beautifully from both steam and lutris, ie; satisfactory, ESO, and Dawn of Man.
in reply to lost_faith

Bottles and lutris mostly serve the same purpose. heroic might be easier so you can use umu for having a more unified experience with wine and proton but I haven't gotten around to playing with that yet.

I've never used winboat but it seams like a lot of... winbloat...

I would personally just use protontricks to install any needed sotware to the games own prefix but I'm pretty sure lutris, bottles, and heroic can all do this while making a clickable launch button for it, while starting the mod loaders my way requires manual intervention every time.

If you haven't already, check out linux vr adventures: lvra.gitlab.io/
I don't know anything about psvr but it might work with monado. i have the facebook shit mask so I use wivrn.



🌐 Free website with printable & interactive Math and Logic worksheets — perfect for teachers, students & families ✍️📐


Hey everyone 👋

I’d love to share a project I’ve been building to make Math and Logic practice easy, free, and accessible in Spanish (with English and Portuguese options too).

👉 multiideasweb.com/

📌 It includes:
• Printable worksheets ready for classroom or home use
• Interactive online exercises with instant feedback
• Resources in 🇪🇸 Spanish, 🇬🇧 English, and 🇧🇷 Portuguese
• Special sections for teachers 👩‍🏫👨‍🏫

It’s a 100% independent project (no paywalls, no sign-ups), and I’d love to hear your feedback or suggestions 🙌

If you find it useful, sharing it also helps a lot ❤️




How the government shutdown is thwarting efforts to shed light on Epstein’s case


Speaker Mike Johnson, a Republican, has kept the House of Representatives out of session for two weeks and counting as part of his party’s strategy to pressure Senate Democrats into voting for their resolution to fund the government.

That has slowed down the House Oversight Committee’s investigation into the late pedophile and held a petition demanding the release of the files at bay.

Bill and Hillary Clinton were expected to testify before the panel over the past few weeks but have yet to appear.

And Johnson has declined to swear into office Representative-elect Adelita Grijalva, a Democrat from Arizona who would be the crucial 218th vote on a discharge petition from Kentucky Republican Thomas Massie that would demand a vote on the release of the government’s Epstein files.

copymyjalopy doesn't like this.





From Sabra and Shatila to Gaza: The Vicious Cycle of US-Israeli 'Peace' Ploys


The history of Zionism is fundamentally one of deception. This assertion is critically relevant today, as it contextualizes the so-called ‘Trump Gaza proposal,’ which appears to be little more than a veiled strategy to defeat the Palestinians and facilitate the ethnic cleansing of a significant portion of Gaza’s population.

https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/from-sabra-and-shatila-to-gaza-the-vicious-cycle-of-us-israeli-peace-ploys/


in reply to Andy

relevant youtube video:


It was never a Gaza 'war'. The 'ceasefire' is a lie cut from the same cloth


Trump’s ‘peace plan’ is doomed. No people in history has ever resigned itself to permanent servitude and oppression. The Palestinians will prove no different.


The Capitalist Vision of Artificial Intelligence: Profit, Power, and Control


ِAI does not develop in a neutral manner, it reflects the class structure of the system that produced it. Artificial intelligence, as developed today, is not an independent or neutral entity, it is directly subject to the dominance of capitalist powers, which steer it in ways that serve their economic, political, social, and ideological interests.

reshared this

in reply to technocrit

Expensive things made by expensive people. Individual efforts don't have the compute power to compete.


Is it possible to just run a pirate video streaming site from Kodi?


I've always felt like the whole docker/jellyfin/plex/loads-of-other-apps stuff is way too overboard just to do a bit of pirating, so I usually just hop on one of the movie/show or anime streaming sites with uBlock Origin installed and watch that way.

Currently I'm looking at what I can setup in the living room, and was thinking of just using an old PC with a wireless keyboard. I would like to use a media center type interface, but I've never actually used Kodi before. Would I be able to just use Kodi to stream from those kinds of services?

Searches so far show that everyone apparently uses Kodi with something called Real Debrid, which I have zero interest in.

in reply to AnimalsDream

Way in the past, when I had time to monitor torrents and manage file structures, I used to cultivate a shared network folder and link XBMC/Kodi to it. Nowadays it is dead simple to just set it all up in containers and check in on it periodically.
in reply to AnimalsDream

It is, i used to do it for my household, but the problem is that those websites that host pirated content tend to do everything they can to prevent direct streaming outside of their own ad filled websites and the adons for kodi that interface with them tend to get abandoned or shut down after a few months, also Without real debrid they are practically useless.

Its actually way easier and less maintenance to just setup the arrs + jellyfin. There is good reason its become so much more common among pirates these days, it might seem overboard but i once you get past the intial setup its super convient.





Do protests like No Kings still matter? Here’s what experts say


  • They help individuals channel their frustration, isolation and desperation
  • They are a show of strength
  • They typically lead to more political involvement
  • They have already produced wins
  • They must remain nonviolent to be effective
  • They must be in small towns in the heartland, not just big coastal cities


Find one near you at nokings.org