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Bracket of some sort found in music room


This may or may not be associated with music stands or equipment. I can’t remember.

I just emptied and re-did my music/video room, and found this bracket in a small box with no labels or anything. I can’t remember what it’s for. I think it’s either audio or video related, but it doesn’t seem to match any of my mic or equipment stands, though it might be. It’s devoid of any branding or part/serial numbers. No markings of any kind.

It folds like this:

More pics:

There’s a sliding mount screw on the bottom:

Thanks!

(Sorry for poor lighting, MacBook Pro 15” for scale)

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Moscow accuses Belgrade of betraying friendship





A dazzling solar marvel in the Gobi Desert




Want to plant trees to offset fossil fuels? You’d need all of North and Central America, study finds


The paper effectively makes the point that it’s financially impossible to offset enough carbon to compensate for future fossil fuel burning, said Daphne Yin, director of land policy at Carbon180, where her team advocates for U.S. policy support for land-based carbon removal. And the idea that companies would be required to account for the downstream emissions from the fossil fuel they extract is a “fantasy,” she said.

https://apnews.com/article/tree-planting-fossil-fuels-carbon-offsets-climate-a0969fbe98905391f53d34780b88256d

in reply to dinren

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Daniele Ganser: NATO’s Dirty Wars - The Legacy of Operation Gladio





in reply to Avatar of Vengeance

This seems like a really biased source, the domain is .ir, which is Iran.

I recommend sources that are not state-backed from a warring county.

in reply to Wahots

Based on this reply I wasn't surprised to see that >75% of your top submitted links are US State Affiliated Media or National Endowment for Democracy-funded human rights NGOs


In one week, Lemm.ee will shutdown


If you are still looking for an alternative, lemmy.zip/ is a solid choice. Similar moderation policy than lemm.ee.

Monthly reports: lemmy.zip/post/39959863

Lots of lemm.ee users moving there: lemmy.zip/post/40323214

If you are in the UK (where lemmy.zip is geoblocked due to UK laws), feddit.uk/ is a good option.

You can export your subscriptions, blocks and saves from "Settings - Import/Export settings" and then import them on your new account.

#meta


Shocking poll shows Zohran Mamdani overtaking Andrew Cuomo in NYC’s ranked choice primary


Lefty upstart Zohran Mamdani has leapfrogged over former Gov. Andrew Cuomo in the city’s ranked choice Democratic primary for mayor, according to a stunning new poll released Monday.

In its hypothetical initial round of voting, Cuomo’s lead shrinks to 3 percentage points, with 35% of likely Democratic voters supporting him compared to 32% for Mamdani and 13% for city Comptroller Brad Lander, the Emerson College Polling/Pix 11/The Hill survey found.

City Council Speaker Adrienne Adams follows with 8%, Scott Stringer 3% and 5% split between candidates Zellnor Myrie, Whitney Tilson, Jessica Ramos and Michael Blake, with another 4% undecided.






I love how resource-efficient linux distros are


Let me know what else I can do to trim down the power and RAM usage here.
in reply to Telorand

Check this new 0 W setup! It’s running pretty smoothly as long as you remember to add some oil between the beads from time to time.
in reply to chaosCruiser

Windows doesn’t make you oil the machine. Your move, nerd.


Israel bombs Tehran prison as Iranian missiles disrupt power supply


Israel and Iran exchanged heavy strikes on Monday in one of the most intense days of the conflict since the Israeli military launched an offensive against the Islamic Republic more than a week ago.

The Israeli military said it carried out wide-ranging attacks on “regime targets” in Tehran, including sites tied to Iran’s internal security apparatus, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the Evin Prison, which holds prominent political dissidents.

Iranian state and semi-official media reported that an electricity feeder station was hit in northern Tehran, leading to localised blackouts. The air strike came shortly after a barrage of Iranian missiles that triggered sirens across Israel for over 30 minutes on Monday morning.

Explosions were heard throughout the country, caused either by direct missile impacts or interceptor defences. Israeli authorities reported damage "near a strategic infrastructure facility" in the south, which disrupted power supply. However, military censorship restricts public disclosure, leaving the full extent of the Iranian strikes unclear.

in reply to HiddenLayer555

Israel is doing what they do best; freeing people by bombing them.
in reply to geneva_convenience

They have the same mentality as the people dunking witches in the middle ages. "It's fine to kill them because they'll go to heaven if they're ~~not a witch~~ Jewish."
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[Audio] Kriegseintritt der USA: Interview Özlem Demirel, Die Linke, MdEP (Deutschlandfunk, 2025-06-23, 08:12 CEST)


[Audio] Kriegseintritt der USA: Interview Özlem Demirel, Die Linke, MdEP (Deutschlandfunk, 2025-06-23, 08:12 CEST)

deutschlandfunk.de/kriegseintr…
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📣 Hört zu, wie Recht Özlem Demirel hat, und wie frech die Moderatorin dazwischenschaltet immer wenn es gerade ankommt, was klar und deutlich ausgesprochen werden muss.

… Die unzählige Völkerrechtsbrüche von Israel, zum Beispiel.

Die Tatsache allein, solche Stimme bei #Deutschlandfunk in der Hauptsendezeit ausgestrahlt wird, macht doch Mut. ✊

#Germany #MainstreamMedia #NeverStopTalkingAboutPalestine @palestine@a.gup.pe



What's the best distro for a windows user with some linux experience


I have used linux in a past job (I did not set it up), so im not a total noob with linux. But I am far from an expert. I bought a tablet that had a flavor of linux on it and found myself woefully unprepared trying to navigate the tablet. I was planning to use it for DnD for pdf reading, but it apparently wasn't capable of that bcz it was a rather custom OS. With windows 10 support being dropped by Microsoft in the next few months, I want to transition my desktop to Linux, and I thought I'd get a headstart on that. I have a windows 11 laptop (and I hate it), but im kinda stuck with it for now. So, in the spirit of I am a noob who isn't quite a noob, what do ya'll recommend? p.s. I used Ubuntu for a bit way way back in high school
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in reply to BlameTheAntifa

I do a lot of game development if that makes any difference, using Unreal.
in reply to NocturnalMorning

In that case you are best off with Kubuntu, since UE for Linux is distributed as a .deb.

If you prefer to compile the engine yourself, then you can use anything you like, but OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is worth a look since it’s a rolling distro and stays up-to-date (especially handy for GPU drivers).




Your data, your rules: Firefox’s privacy-first AI features you can trust | The Mozilla Blog


Firefox is expanding its AI-powered features, all designed to keep your data private. We believe technology should serve you, not monitor you. Our team understands the importance of privacy, especially as AI rapidly integrates into our daily lives.


Regime Change in Iran Will Not End Well


In the long run, the United States will pay for Donald Trump’s hubris in attacking Iran.


Archived version: archive.is/newest/jacobin.com/…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.



New York will build first major new US nuclear power plant in over 15 years


Governor says plant upstate is ‘a critical energy initiative’ while renewable energy groups slammed the decision


Archived version: archive.is/newest/theguardian.…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.


in reply to Dialectical Idealist

Funny how every time the GIOP does something awful we see a lot of BoTh SIdes ArE The SAMe memes.

No actual plans or ideas, but lots of memes telling people not to vote.

in reply to Dagwood222

Is the response for "if was Kamala nothing of this would happen".

"The strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world." would do the same fucking shit

in reply to Dagwood222

The result of not voting sits in the White House. In politics there is no silent majority.
in reply to Zerush

and thats itself the result of neither side helping the working class.
in reply to ☂️-

Billonairs and stupid MAGA workers are the minority and always vote right wings, but they turn to a mayority if the left working class don't vote. Simple Math.
in reply to Zerush

you missed the point. democrats are not leftists and will be just as bad.

don't blame leftists for how fascists coopt an electoral system in their favour.

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in reply to ☂️-

I know that the US voting system is a crap and that there don't exist a real keft party, Democrats there are a conservative neoliberal party and Republicans are direct a Fascist one. But even so between the bad and the worse, voting the worse don't make sensem less if it is done for the second time. Anyway for me as an European it's impossible to understand why this criminal asshole is in the WhiteHouse and not in Jail since tears ago. In the last US election you could hear out of the US worldwide the sound of a violent facepalm.
in reply to Zerush

leftists aren't really voting for trump though. most leftists i know vote for the lesser evil, but with the consciousness it ain't doing much.

it’s impossible to understand why this criminal asshole is in the WhiteHouse and not in Jail since tears ago


the way fascism coopts the masses and capitalism lets it, thats literally fascism running its course. its been documented throughout history.

it comes up when capitalism is in crisis and the people aren't aware of the class war being fought against them. part of that comes from thinking politics is just voting for the lesser evil.

in reply to Zerush

Thank you. You're going to get a lot of nonsense where people keep telling you that voting is meaningless. Don't listen.
in reply to Dagwood222

leftists offer plenty of solutions starting with unionization. and much more depending on which poison you pick.

first things first though you need to notice you won't be able to vote fascism away.

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in reply to ☂️-

You just fucking said you can’t vote away fascism. So if fascism is already here, which it is, you’re saying it can’t be voted away, which HEAVILY implies that one shouldn’t vote cuz it’s pointless; fascism can’t be voted away, so why vote?

Do you need any other explanations, you obtuse jackass pretending not to know how language works?

in reply to mienshao

thats your conclusion. i literally don't care if you bother voting.

i even stated this much, how is that so hard to understand? do you need me to clarify something? why the fuck are you that angry?

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in reply to Dagwood222

Have an upvote. Both sides are not the same. Anyone who can't distinguish between them is seriously not fully operational.
in reply to Dagwood222

Leftists are always telling you to read theory and organize. Here's a Marxist-Leninist intro reading list, and the Party for Socialism and Liberation is a good org to join.


Read Theory, Darn it! An Introductory Reading List for Marxism-Leninism


"Without Revolutionary theory, there can be no Revolutionary Movement."

It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook

  1. Dialectical and Historical Materialism
  2. Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
  3. Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism

As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!

Section I: Getting Started

What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?

  1. Friedrich Engels' Principles of Communism | Audiobook

The FAQ of Communism, written by the Luigi of the Marx & Engels duo. Quick to read, and easy to reference, this is the perfect start to your journey.

  1. Michael Parenti's Blackshirts and Reds | Audiobook

Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous speech.

Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism

Ugh, philosophy? Really? YES!

  1. Georges Politzer's Elementary Principles of Philosophy | Audiobook

By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!

  1. Friedrich Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific | Audiobook

Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.

Section III: Political Economy

That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.

  1. Karl Marx's Wage Labor and Capital | Audiobook as well as Wages, Price and Profit | Audiobook

Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.

  1. Vladimir Lenin's Imperialism, The Highest Stage of Capitalism | Audiobook

Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.

Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism

Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?

  1. Rosa Luxemburg's Reform or Revolution | Audiobook

If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.

  1. Vladimir Lenin's The State and Revolution | Audiobook

Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.

Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity

The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.

  1. Vikky Storm and Eme Flores' The Gender Accelerationist Manifesto | (No Audiobook yet)

Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.

  1. Frantz Fanon's The Wretched of the Earth | Audiobook

De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.

  1. Leslie Feinberg's Lavender & Red | Audiobook

Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.

Section VI: Putting it into Practice!

It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!

  1. Mao Tse-Tung's On Practice and On Contradiction | Audiobook

Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.

Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!

With your new understanding and knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, here is a mini What is to be Done? of your own to follow, and take with you as practical advice.

  1. Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to us to protect ourselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it.
  2. Read theory. Don't think that you are done now! Just because you have the basics, doesn't mean you know more than you do. If you have not investigated a subject, don't speak on it! Don't speak nonsense, but listen!
  3. Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground, let nobody be forgotten or left behind. There is strength in numbers, when one marginalized group is targeted, many more are sure to follow.
  4. Be industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well.
  5. Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. Liberals will not save us, we must save each other.
  6. Be persistent. If you feel like a single water droplet against a mountain, think of canyons and valleys. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.

"Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent."

  • Mao Tse-Tung


in reply to Dialectical Idealist

The alt-left is STILL pulling the “both sides are the same” shit. We will NEVER escape fascism. Like buckle in because the left is not fucking comprehending the massive scale of the difference between corrupt MAGA and corrupt Dems. Yalls are just not fucking getting it. Yalls are still just mad and punishing Dems for their awful, unconscionable Gaza policy (not defending it), but yalls literally put the final nail in American democracy cuz of a single foreign policy issue. Fucked over all LGBTQ people, all disabled folks, women’s rights, immigrant’s right, DEIA programs. As I watch my trans family continue to get targeted and killed, I will NEVER forget the “both sides” leftists who hung us out to dry. Fuck yalls.
in reply to mienshao

Nowhere in this meme does it say that “both sides are the same”. It’s (correctly) showing how both parties don’t give a shit about the working class.

Republicans are horrible but you can’t expect the Democrats to save or help you from them after we have tons of evidence showing they will also break strikes, pass right wing immigration laws, attack protesters, support genocide, and do almost nothing to stop rising fascism.

Also trying to diminish supplying and funding a genocide to just “a single foreign policy issue” is pretty fucked up and not even accurate. Leftists were willing to overlook hundreds of issues we had with Kamala as a candidate if she could just do the bare fucking minimum of not actively funding and supplying a genocide and she couldn’t even do that.

in reply to mienshao

Fascism and liberalism are not distinct ideologies, but the same ideology in different circumstances. Liberalism is the nice mask, fascism is the brutal one, and Capitalism will use whichever the bourgoeisie feels is necessary to maintain control and profits.

Critiquing liberalism is a "left" thing, not an "alt-left" thing, and I don't even know what that means.



IYO Sues OpenAI Over IO


IYO filed a trademark infringement lawsuit [PDF] against OpenAI and Jony Ive's company earlier this month, alleging the defendants deliberately adopted a confusingly similar name for competing products. The lawsuit surfaced after the Microsoft-backed startup quietly pulled promotional materials about its $6.5 acquisition billion deal with Ive's firm.


Case file: business.cch.com/ipld/IYOIOPro…





Republican senators’ proposed Medicaid cuts threaten to send red states ‘backwards’


Advocates are urging Senate Republicans to reject a proposal to cut billions from American healthcare to extend tax breaks that primarily benefit the wealthy and corporations.

The proposal would make historic cuts to Medicaid, the public health insurance program for low-income and disabled people that covers 71 million Americans, and is the Senate version of the “big beautiful bill” act, which contains most of Donald Trump’s legislative agenda.

“With the text released earlier this week, somehow the Senate made the House’s ‘big, bad budget bill’ worse in many ways,” said Anthony Wright, the executive director of Families USA, a consumer healthcare advocacy group, in a press call.

#USA



Trump social media site brought down by Iran hackers


  • Hours after the US airstrike on Iranian territory, Iranian-backed hackers took down US President Donald Trump’s social media platform.
  • Users were struggling to access Truth Social in the early morning following the alleged hack.
  • As the US continues to insert itself into the ongoing Iran-Israel conflict, the US government believes more cyberattacks could happen.

https://htxt.co.za/2025/06/trump-social-media-site-brought-down-by-iran-hackers/

in reply to Pro

Thankfully only DDos. Truth Social is Mastodon so a security flaw could have been a real problem.
in reply to MrMakabar

Is It Mastodon?! For real? Does it have ActivityPub enabled and all of that?


That's right Chris, it's war!




in reply to Maroon

I'm seeing a lot of advocacy for Mint on Lemmy but not as much for Fedora it seems?

I've only ever run one Linux distro and that was Fedora KDE Plasma, havent tried Mint yet. Are they not mostly the same or am I missing something?

in reply to CosmoSaucer

It's easier to install/use. It was my first distro before I switched to CachyOS for my latest build.
in reply to CosmoSaucer

Apt is a massive and reliable package manager. Im not very surprised. However I am surprised no one is specifying LMDE
in reply to Maroon

I’m trying, I really am. My current issue is that Wi-Fi completely ignores IPV4 if I’m on a network with additional IPV6 support.


Spain calls for suspension of EU-Israel trade deal


Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Albares said on Monday that he will urge the foreign ministers of the European Union to suspend the EU-Israel Association Agreement immediately, Azernews reports.

"If the Association Agreement is based on human rights, then it's the most normal thing that we suspend it immediately today and move forward. That is why I will ask for the suspension of the agreement and embargo on selling weapons to Israel, as well as sanctions to everyone who wants to be a spoiler to the two-state solution," Albares stressed at the sidelines of the European Foreign Affairs Council in Brussels.



Mother in Germany separated from one-year-old son over Palestinian activism


A Palestinian-Jordanian woman with German residency was separated from her one-year-old after German authorities deemed the child a security threat, she and her lawyers say.

The European Legal Support Centre, which is supporting her case, say the woman is the latest victim of the German state’s weaponisation of residency issues to repress Palestinian solidarity.

“The German state systematically exploits residence, asylum and citizenship law to punish already marginalised communities,” said an ELSC spokesperson.“There is no justification for separating a newborn from his parents, yet to label the child a ‘security threat’ marks a grotesque new low, even by their own oppressive standards."



Mother in Germany separated from one-year-old son over Palestinian activism


A Palestinian-Jordanian woman with German residency was separated from her one-year-old after German authorities deemed the child a security threat, she and her lawyers say.

The European Legal Support Centre, which is supporting her case, say the woman is the latest victim of the German state’s weaponisation of residency issues to repress Palestinian solidarity.

“The German state systematically exploits residence, asylum and citizenship law to punish already marginalised communities,” said an ELSC spokesperson.“There is no justification for separating a newborn from his parents, yet to label the child a ‘security threat’ marks a grotesque new low, even by their own oppressive standards."





The strenghts and weaknesses of atproto and activitypub.


There is a lot bluesky gets right, and a lot it gets wrong, the same is true with Activitypub.

(Some) strengths of Atproto


Atproto is content-addressed, and portable. This means that posts can exist independantly of their original server.
Instead of giving posts a https uri, which will stop working if a user moves servers or their server disappears, they give them at uris.
For example, this post on bsky.app: bsky.app/profile/ponder.ooo/po…
Has the at:// link is: at://did:plc:i4bfh2tyxihe2ksplmtcoopk/app.bsky.feed.post/3lk4yrmyugc2f.
The post does exist over https at https://porcini.us-east.host.bsky.network/xrpc/com.atproto.repo.getRecord?repo=did:plc:i4bfh2tyxihe2ksplmtcoopk&collection=app.bsky.feed.post&rkey=3lk4yrmyugc2f.


Atproto is very easy to build apps on. For example, tangled.sh, frontpage.fyi and flushes.app are all apps built on atproto.
Atproto allows more flexibility in what an app can do, as opposed to lemmy or mastodon's api.


Atproto is better documented. The ActivityPub spec leaves a lot up to the reader.


Atproto has some really good moderation tools for users. People can make public blocklists of users, and people can subscribe to labellers, people or services which give users/posts a label.

Weaknesses of Atproto


almost everyone is on bluesky's PDSes. I thought mastodon.social and lemmy.world were bad, but the people on alternate PDSes altogether adds up to only a few thousand.

Its decentralised identifiers are actually completely centralised!
DID:PLC, their DID method, originally stood for placeholder, but they renamed it to Public Ledger of Credentials.
To use it, you have to use plc.directory.
You can use a DID:WEB DID, but if your website linked to it goes down you lose your identity.
(I find it extremely funny that its not actually a requirement for a decentralised identifier to be decentralised. )

Everything on the network has to be public to work.
since relays have to be able to collect all the information on the network for Appviews to be able to make use of that information, anyone can find out who's blocking someone, or who is on a list, or who's following who, with no way of hiding that information.
Private accounts and posts are impossible to do on atproto.

Since everything is public, DMs (for now) are centralised. They do seem like they want to change that though.

Strengths of ActivityPub


AP (ActivityPub) is better distributed. While it has large servers (like mastodon.social or lemmy.world (and threads, but we don't talk about threads)) the majority of users are not on those servers. There is no single point of failure. If bluesky disappeared tomorrow, atproto would still exist, it would just have a negligable amount of users.

One node in the network lets you do everything, as opposed to bluesky which has three parts (You can do stuff without a relay though). This means you can trust a lot less of the network.

ActivityPub scales better than ATProto. Atproto scales quadratically, meaning that having a lot of nodes in the network harms performance.
AP scales horizontally, meaning it works better with a lot of small servers.

ActivityPub can keep stuff private, like blocks and posts.
Though, a lot of implementations can leak posts.

Weaknesses of ActivityPub


The spec leaves so much out. They didn't propose a way to make sure requests between servers are validated, so mastodon chose HTTP signatures.
They didn't add any way of looking up handles, so mastodon chose webfinger.

A posts's id is its https uri, this means thatif a server goes down, stuff can't be fetched. A user can't move their followers if their server goes down (you can on ATproto). There is a standard to fix this, FEP-ef61, but it breaks compatibility with a lot of implementations.

Missing information is a problem. Its not really a problem on lemmy, but on mastodon likes and replies from other servers may not make it to your server at all (you can fetch replies in newer versions of mastodon though).


All this aside, I do think the two can coexist. I don't see anything like lemmy working on atproto. ActivityPub seems closer to social networking, as opposed to social media.
Something like facebook would be impossible to make on atproto, because not everything is made to be public.

I am hoping for a bridge, but good (bridgy is opt-in, making it useless).

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in reply to FundMECFS

Yes, this does help, but atproto as a whole still doesn't scale well:

In the beginning of our network, we have 26 users, which conveniently for us map to each letter of the English alphabet: [Alice, Bob, Carol, ... Zack]. Each user sends one message per day, which is intended to have one recipient. (This may sound unrealistic, but this is fine to do to model our scenario.) To simplify things, we'll have each user send a message in a ring: Alice sends a message to Bob, Bob sends a message to Carol, and so on, all the way up to Zack, who simply we wrap around and have message Alice. This could be because these messages have specific intended recipients or it could be because Bob is the sole "follower" of Alice's posts, Carol is the sole "follower" of Bob's, etc.

Let's look at what happens in a single day under both systems.

Under message passing, Alice sends her message to Bob. Only Bob need receive the message. So on and so forth.

From an individual self-hosted server, only one message is passed per day: 1.
From the fully decentralized network, the total number of messages passed, zooming out, is the number of participants in the network: 26.
Under the public-gods-eye-view-shared-heap model, each user must know of all messages to know what may be relevant. Each user must receive all messages.

From an individual self-hosted server, 26 messages must be received.

Zooming out, the number of messages which must be transmitted in the day is 26 * 26: 676, since each user receives each message.

Okay, so what does that mean? How bad is this? With 26 users, this doesn't sound like so much. Now let's add 5 users.

Under message passing:

Per server, still 1 message received per user per day.
Per the network, it's 5 extra messages transmitted per day, which makes sense: we've added 5 users.
Under the public-gods-eye-view-shared-heap model:

Per server: 5 new messages received per user per day.

Per the network, it's ((31 * 31) - (26 * 26)): 285 new messages per day!

But we aren't actually running networks of 26 users. We are running networks of millions of users. What would happen if we had a million self-hosted users and five new users were added to the network? Zooming out, once again, the message passing system simply has five new messages sent. Under the public shared heap model, it is 10,000,025 new messages sent! For adding five new self-hosted users! (And that's even just with our simplified model of only sending one message per day per user!)


Source: dustycloud.org/blog/re-re-blue…

As well as this, if there was a reddit-like atproto AppView, setting up multiple instances of it would still result in the same problems.

in reply to irelephant [he/him]

But this is assuming private messages no?

When 99% of the public traffic is on posts that will federate to most servers, this model becomes irrelevant.