Yet again, a free open-source Chinese AI has beaten all the investor-funded favorites like OpenAI, Anthropic, Grok, etc.
cross-posted from: futurology.today/post/5555646
If you tend towards conspiracy theory-type thinking, you might wonder if the Chinese government is directing its AI sector to use open-source AI to undermine US AI efforts. If they aren't, is it just a coincidence that this is what is happening?Two things seem inevitable to me if the trend of Chinese open-source AI equalling Western efforts keeps up. A) - It will eventually bankrupt the Western AI companies and their investors, as the hundreds of billions poured into them will never be realized in profits. B) The 21st century will be built on Chinese AI, as it will be what most of the world uses.
The former seems more dramatic in the short term, but the latter is what will be more significant in the long term.
Moonshot AI just released Kimi K2: China is not so behind in Agentic AI either it would seem.
British airbase used by Israeli war planes involved in bombing Gaza
At least three Israeli Air Force (IAF) jets have landed at RAF Brize Norton since September 2024, Drop Site reports.
KC-707 “Re’em” jets, which refuel other planes in the air, are said to have landed at the Oxfordshire base on at least nine occasions during trips between Israel and the US.
Of these stops, eight reportedly lasted more between one to three hours potentially indicating that the planes were refuelling.
Re’em military planes have been spotted refuelling Israeli F-35 bombers and two of those which stopped in the UK had also been observed providing refuelling and logistics support to planes engaged in bombing raids, Drop Site reports.
British airbase used by Israeli war planes involved in bombing Gaza
A BRITISH airbase is reportedly being used by Israeli war planes involved in the bombing of Gaza.Hamish Morrison (The National)
Cambodian sites of Khmer Rouge brutality added to UNESCO heritage list
Three sites used by Cambodia’s brutal Khmer Rouge regime as torture and execution sites 50 years ago have been added by UNESCO to its World Heritage List.
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Sweden set to rent cells in Estonian jails as it runs out of room for its prisoners
Centre-right government rejects long-established national policies focused on rehabilitation and reintegration
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KDE Devs, I Love You, But Please Remove This Feature
KDE Devs, I Love You, But Please Remove This Feature
I cannot explain how much I do not want to see this green dot and “New!” text in my application launcher.KDE Discuss
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posts gdp chartdoesn't know what gdp is or how it's measured
mocks person who does know what gdp is
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And it's not that "countries I don't like manipulate their GDP".
It's more that GDP measurements, including the PPP kind, are fundementally flawed and that's by design.
China is around 2.5 times the economy of the US at this moment by looking how much they are manufacturing
and how much electricity they use, surpassing the EU per person.
Aren't we on Lemmy.ml?
You missed the reference. I tee'd you or someone else up to reply with "I'm not your buddy, friend!"
Reference: youtu.be/zuQK6t2Esng
GDP is a terrible measure of genuine economic output, especially considering that it doesn't center production, but transaction and currency. A system highly financialized like the US, in reality, produces far less than China does, yet the US GDP is larger due to the dollar.
Plus, people still show up to argue all the time.
Neither system is perfect. Physical goods (except resources, food and medicine) can become obsolete, demand may drop significantly (especially for luxury products), can be boycotted if you piss off citizens of a rival country enough and they are subject to tariffs, which is obviously relevant with the arrogant dickhead in the white house.
Edit: I think it's still fair to say that GDP is certainly good rough indication of how well a country is doing economically. Otherwise what would be the point if everyone thinks it is useless?
Otherwise what would be the point if everyone thinks it is useless?
Capitalism trying to convince people it is still relevant and viable.
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These examples illustrate the disjuncture between GDP and societal well-being and the many ways that GDP fails to be a good measure of economic performance. The growth in GDP before 2008 was not sustainable, and it was not sustained. The increase in bank profits that seemed to fuel GDP in the years before the crisis was not only at the expense of the well-being of the many people whom the financial sector exploited but also at the expense of GDP in later years. The increase in inequality was by any measure hurting our society, but GDP was celebrating the banks' successes. If there ever was an event that drove home the need for new ways of measuring economic performance and societal progress, the 2008 crisis was it.
GDP Is the Wrong Tool for Measuring What Matters
It’s time to replace gross domestic product with real metrics of well-being and sustainabilityJoseph E. Stiglitz (Scientific American)
Political Economy is complex. What GDP aims to measure is overall production, it's an explanation of wealth, however it paints a very uneven picture as it overvalues financial transactions and undervalues raw productive capacity. As a consequence, imperialist countries are overvalued (like the US), while production-focused countries are under-represented.
GDP is often pushed by liberal, western countries as it makes them look good. A more honest look, however, is multi-faceted and takes into account other metrics like social services, which often run into negative "profitability" or break even, as they aren't producing for profit. There's also the fact that the US doesn't outproduce in non-physical goods either. The US certainly has popular media and software, but it doesn't have overwhelming productive capacity in these areas.
The point of focusing on BRICS is because if you remove the financialized, almost ficticious look at capital as displayed by GDP, BRICS is more economically strong and significant, and this better reflects the real world, not just US-based self-perception.
Imperialism - ProleWiki
Imperialism is the highest stage of the capitalist mode of production, in which monopolies and cartels become the prevalent economic force of society. Lenin synthesized...ProleWiki
Imperialism - ProleWiki
Imperialism is the highest stage of the capitalist mode of production, in which monopolies and cartels become the prevalent economic force of society. Lenin synthesized...ProleWiki
What facts did I disagree with? Are you operating with a different concept of what imperialism means, ie a semantical difference but not a logical one? Or am I wrong about Russia having relatively small financial capital and thus lacking the capacity to practice imperialism in the same way western countries do? Or am I wrong about China's large and key industries being state owned, and their economy incentivizing multilateralism in order to sell more?
The first would be a semantical difference, not a disagreement with facts, the latter 2 would be if you could provide evidence to the contrary sufficient to outweigh what I said.
Imperialism - ProleWiki
Imperialism is the highest stage of the capitalist mode of production, in which monopolies and cartels become the prevalent economic force of society. Lenin synthesized...ProleWiki
Maybe, but that would be better than just saying I "disagree with facts" while being cagey about what those "facts" are. That's just ad hominem (and I mean that genuinely, you're trying to discredit me through insult, not just insult me).
Either way, ultimately, this topic has shifted entirely from the base of the conversation, which is trying to find a good measure of economic productivity, and how focusing on financialized capital masked by GDP obscures actual productivity. It's why imperialist countries are declining, and why the PRC is rising. I don't think we disagree that western countries are going downhill and that the PRC is improving, so identifying why is productive.
It's openly biased towards communism, it's a Marxist-Leninist encyclopedia. Wikipedia is also biased towards a western, liberal viewpoint. Truth is underlying and independent of interpretation, but how truth is presented is where bias shines through, and shine it does no matter where you find your source, as every source is biased. ProleWiki is nice because it includes its sources, even though it's a work in progress, and more importantly the article on imperialism is an explanation of the concept and how it exists in reality from the Marxist-Leninist point of view.
If someone has a different definition of imperialism, you can still read the ProleWiki article and appreciate it, just substitute "imperialism" with "Leninist imperialism," and read the article with that in mind. Saying a country does or doesn't meet the Leninist definition of imperialism doesn't mean it necessarily fits or doesn't fit other definitions of imperialism. The Leninist interpretation is widespread, however, because it's useful, and as such serves as an excellent explanation for how capitalism in developed countries functions and why it's simultaneously wealthy and declining rapidly.
You are confidently wrong, pepe the frog is originally from a stoner comic. Besides, I am married, so the whole incel thing doesn't exactly check out.
Edit: Very revealing how absolutely everything I post is downvoted by default, despite this comment being irrefutable fact.
I think that is also a very one-sided view on this issue. The truth most likely lies somewhere in the middle.
Centrism is a religion
No, centrism is the uncritical acceptance of the political extreme that is currently in power. It rejects nuance on and critical questioning, because that might lead to believes other than the current status quo.
It is the certainly not the opposite to being a coward, and it is synonymous with being intellectually lazy; like relying on thought terminating cliches such as "the truth most likely lies somewhere in the middle"
Once I was crossing a signalised intersection in Canada while the pedestrian light was on, and some jackass turning left on red (which is the most illegal way to run a red light btw) almost hit me and had to slam on the brakes, but what shocked me the most was that the driver behind them, also intending to turn left on red, fucking honked at the first driver for having the audacity to stop and get in their way instead of running me over.
I've also had multiple instances where I was about to cross an uncontrolled intersection and a driver (who's usually speeding to the point where I could tell with just my eyes) honks at me to get back on the sidewalk because they don't intend on stopping for me when the laws require them to. Also seen drivers turning right on red (which is legal here in BC for some reason) honking at pedestrians crossing with the light and demanding to go first when the laws say you're definitely supposed to wait until the cross walk clears.
This is why I hate drivers. They call cyclists and pedestrians entitled while doing shit like this.
Russia and Belarus plan to create AI model based on “traditional values”
Russia and Belarus intend to develop their own artificial intelligence model built on “traditional values” that would be “understandable” to citizens of both countries.
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U.S.-Installed Regime in Syria is Terrorizing the Country’s Christians - CovertAction Magazine
U.S.-Installed Regime in Syria is Terrorizing the Country’s Christians - CovertAction Magazine
In late June, Syrians experienced the worst attack on a Christian church since 1860 On June 29, 2025, I attended a church service at St. Moses the Black Orthodox Church in Pittsburgh’s Hill District. St.Daniel Kovalik (CovertAction Magazine)
Proven by the OPCW factfinding mission evidence where the report was doctored higher up
Video| Zionist Drone Raids Car in South Lebanon, Claims One Martyr
One Lebanese citizen embraced martyrdom after an Israeli drone raided his (Rapid) car with two missiles in Deir Kifa town, South Lebanon.
In the context of the Israeli attacks on the border area since this dawn, at approximately 6:30 a.m., an enemy Israeli reconnaissance aircraft dropped a sound bomb near a fishing boat off the coast of Ras Al-Naqoura.
An enemy reconnaissance aircraft also dropped a sound bomb in the vicinity of a destroyed house in the outskirts of the town of Dhahira, before later dropping a second bomb in the same town.
In a related development, enemy bulldozers established a new, small site near the newly established “Al-Hamames” site inside Lebanese territory, opposite the city of Khiyam. Furthermore, during the pre-dawn hours, Israeli bulldozers paved a 200-meter dirt road inside Lebanese territory in the town of Kfar Kila, extending from the wall toward the road leading to the “Shalhoub” station.
The occupying forces also dropped an incendiary bomb in the woods of the town of Sheheen, sparking a fire in the wooded area.
Israeli warplanes intensified their assaults last night, launching an airstrike on the rugged outskirts of Bodai in western Baalbek District, then conducting two more strikes on the highland areas near Flawi in the same region.
These attacks come in the context of Israeli violations of the ceasefire signed in November of last year, as Israel blatantly disregards all relevant international agreements and laws.
Video| Two Martyrs in Zionist Drone Raids on South Lebanon
One Lebanese citizen embraced martyrdom after an Israeli drone raided his (Rapid) car with two missi...Al-Manar TV Lebanon
War with Israeli enhanced Iran’s position in region: poll
War with Israeli enhanced Iran’s position in region: poll
TEHRAN, Jul. 07 (MNA) – A new opinion poll indicates that a majority of Iranians believe that the country came out stronger from a recent war of aggression with the Israeli regime.Morteza Ahmadi Al Hashem (Mehr News Agency)
China helps Cuba fight blackouts, strengthen power grid
China helps Cuba fight blackouts, strengthen power grid
Cuba may slowly ease its crippling blackouts and strengthen the electricity grid as it begins building seven solar parks with the first batch of equipment from China.www.chinadaily.com.cn
US takes Hay'at Tahrir Al-Sham organization off terrorist list — secretary of state
US takes Hay'at Tahrir Al-Sham organization off terrorist list — secretary of state
The revocation goes into effect upon publication, with the publication date being July 8TASS
The United States has made the decision to revoke the foreign terrorist organization designation of the Hay’at Tahrir Al-Sham group (outlawed in Russia)
Probably because the US plans to arm them and use them as pawns in their fight for global domination. What could go wrong?
Police detain over 500 protestors in Kenya
Hamas Deals Major Blow to Netanyahu before Trump Meeting: 6 Israeli Soldiers Dead, 10 Wounded in Firm Ambush North of Gaza
Disclaimer: casualty counts have already risen since Al-Manar published this
Six Israeli soldiers were killed, and 10 others were injured in a complex ambush carried out by the Palestinian resistance late Monday in northern Gaza, according to Zionist media outlets which underlined the loss of a soldier as well.
The southern command of Israeli Army started an immediate investigation into one of the hardest security incidents that faced the occupation forces in Gaza. Hospitals were prepared to receive the casualties, and the Zionist social media websites were filled with moaning and groaning over the harsh account.
According to the latest reports circulated by the Zionist media outlets, six soldiers were killed, and 10 others were injured in a firm ambush carried out by Al-Qassam Brigades, Hamas military wing, in Beit Hanoun, northern Gaza, late Monday.
The incident occurred when resistance fighters detonated an explosive device against an armored vehicle carrying soldiers and then targeted a robot loaded with tons of ammunition by an anti-tank missile while it was being prepared.
The resistance also targeted the Israeli rescue force that rushed into the scene. Residents of Ashkelon heard the sound of a “huge explosion,” according to Israeli news websites, which reported that one of the wounded was a senior officer.
“The recent incident in northern Gaza is still ongoing—intense fire belts and major chaos on the ground. One soldier remains missing, vehicles are burning, and all had entered areas rigged with explosive devices and were hit with RPG rounds,” the Zionist media reported.
Israeli media added that several Israeli soldiers were burned in northern Gaza.
Wounded soldiers are being evacuated from northern Gaza via military helicopters to five hospitals: Assuta Hospital in Ashdod, Soroka Hospital in Bersheba, Beilinson Hospital in Petah Tikva, Tel HaShomer Hospital in Ramat Gan, and Ein Kerem Hospital in Jerusalem, according to the Zionist media.
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, due to meet the US President Donald Trumpat the White House, has been briefed on a major ambush of Israeli [...]
Hamas Deals Major Blow to Netanyahu before Trump Meeting: 6 Israeli Soldiers Dead, 10 Wounded in Firm Ambush North of Gaza
Six Israeli soldiers were killed, and 10 others were injured in a complex ambush carried out by the ...Al-Manar TV Lebanon
Taiwan says it detected 11 Chinese aircraft, 7 naval vessels, 1 ship as it prepares to resist China's invasion
On July 12, Taiwan's military began deploying one of its newest and most precise strike weapons as part of intensifying drills meant to showcase the island's determination to resist any Chinese invasion.
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Family of US-Palestinian beaten to death in West Bank seeks State Department probe
The family of a US-Palestinian man beaten to death by Israeli settlers in the West Bank called for a US State Department investigation into the killing on Saturday. Saif al-Din Kamil Abdul Karim Musalat was attacked on Friday in the village of Sinjil, north of Ramallah, according to the Palestinian health ministry.
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Why does Arch seem to have a cult like following?
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Rust introduces novel features and makes notable changes from its ancestors.
Arch was just blue Gentoo.
Arch was just blue Gentoo
I don't know if that ever was true but I definitely disagree with that nowadays because Arch is in my opinion significantly more approachable and easier to daily-drive than Gentoo.
How to make Zoom more private
Zoom Redirector – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)
Download Zoom Redirector for Firefox. Zoom Redirector transparently redirects any meeting links to use Zoom's browser based web client.addons.mozilla.org
island android app have google tracker
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/32631305
Analyzed by exodus, island the work profile app have 3 trackers detectedreports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/…
Should I be worried?
Report for com.oasisfeng.island 6.4.2
Known trackers, permissions and informations about this specific version of this applicationεxodus
National currencies free BRICS from Western pressure – Russian finance minister
National currencies free BRICS from Western pressure – Russian finance minister
Sanctions have accelerated the economic bloc’s push for financial independence, Anton Siluanov has told RTRT
West using conflicts to disrupt BRICS rise – Bolivian leader
West using conflicts to disrupt BRICS rise – Bolivian leader
Western states led by the US provoke wars for profit and to block a multipolar world, Bolivian President Luis Arce has told RTRT
US | Trump considering sending new funds to Ukraine for first time since taking office, CBS News reports
The funds could come from the $3.85 billion remaining in Presidential Drawdown Authority from the Biden administration or from frozen Russian assets, current and former U.S. officials said.
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Attrition By Inches: Russia’s Multi-Front Push Reshaping The Battlefield
Ukrainian frontlines are pushed by steady but significant advances by Russian forces across multiple directions, with Ukrainian sources acknowledging territorial losses of approximately 170 square kilometers per week. This consistent retreat reflects not just localized setbacks but a broader pattern of systemic pressure, forcing Ukrainian troops to cede ground, deplete reserves, and reorganize under relentless Russian offensives. Notably, Russian sources claim a record territorial gain of 203 square kilometers in the first week of July alone, which is nearly 40% of the total area captured in June.
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I saw a french documentary where they sent this guy to Italy so he could learn how to make the good pizza and brought experts in to check.
It looked like some good ass Italian pizza. Too bad the frenchies were too busy pretending to care about peasants in the countryside to actually be normal and enjoy it. The one woman whose father was born the north was the most normal one, she actually enjoyed her time being there and didn't pretend to wax poetic about poverty.
It is really funny that liberals expect me to believe their genuine concern for the peasant class of Korea when their entire lives are subsidized by the Global South via imperialism.
Starovoit was found dead. Staged, "an officer's act" or "despicable"?
Starovoit was found dead. Staged, "an officer's act" or "despicable"?
Starovoit was found dead. Staged, "an officer's act" or "despicable"?. Former Transport Minister Roman Starovoit, who was dismissed by Russian President Vladimir Putin today, was found shot dead. Ukrainian propaganda immediately seized...Pravda EN
arguablly the Jews in Germany in ww2 were not proactively murdering innocent women and children via terrorism before the war, so I think that's one difference.
but it doesn't make what Israel is doing now any less Nazi-like.
Lavrov Outlines Russia’s Core Stance for Resolving Ukraine Conflict
Lavrov Outlines Russia’s Core Stance for Resolving Ukraine Conflict
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov gave an interview to Hungarian newspaper Magyar Nemzet, discussing Russia’s stance on peace talks with Ukraine, and NATO’s expansion as a pivotal risk to national security.Sputnik International
Lavrov: Ukraine cannot claim the principle of territorial integrity
Lavrov: Ukraine cannot claim the principle of territorial integrity: EADaily
EADaily, July 7th, 2025. The current authorities of Kiev do not represent the population of the Russian-speaking regions of the country, therefore, today's Ukraine, according to international law, cannot claim to apply the principle of territorial in…EADaily
Forget nukes. This is Russia’s new deterrence weapon
Forget nukes. This is Russia’s new deterrence weapon
Why Russia doesn’t need to go nuclear to make its point – and how Oreshnik makes that clearRT
Russia winning ammunition race over NATO – Rutte
Russia winning ammunition race over NATO – Rutte
Russia produces three times as much ammunition in three months as the bloc does in a year, the NATO secretary-general has saidRT
Bee attack leaves dozens of people injured in French town
A unusual attack by bees in the French town of Aurillac has left 24 people injured, including three who were in critical condition but have since improved, according to local authorities.
Passersby were stung over a period of about 30 minutes on Sunday morning, according to the prefecture of Cantal, in south-central France. Firefighters and medical teams treated the victims, while police set up a security perimeter until the bees stopped their attack.
The three people in critical condition were evacuated to a local hospital. Pierre Mathonier, the mayor of Aurillac, told BFM TV on Monday that their condition had improved.
Bee attack leaves dozens of people injured in French town
Three were in critical condition but have since improved after incident in Aurillac, south-central FranceGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Tony Blair’s staff took part in ‘Gaza Riviera’ project with BCG
Tony Blair’s staff took part in ‘Gaza Riviera’ project with BCG
Former UK prime minister’s institute participated in meetings on plan to turn shattered enclave into trading hubStephen Foley (Financial Times)
Trump to send 12 more tariff letters today, says White House, with more to follow this week
Donald Trump will send foreign leaders more letters notifying them of new tariffs in the days to come, said Karoline Leavitt.
“There will be additional letters in the coming days,” the White House press secretary said, in addition to the 12 he plans to send today and the two already made public, which were to South Korea and Japan’s leaders,
As for why Trump decided to start with the two Asian allies, Leavitt said:
It’s the president’s prerogative and those are the countries he chose.
Trump and Netanyahu meet at White House amid indirect ceasefire talks – as it happened
Israeli leader met US secretary of state and Middle East envoy before arriving at White HouseYohannes Lowe (The Guardian)
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Exclusive: Proposal outlines large-scale 'Humanitarian Transit Areas' for Palestinians in Gaza
July 7 (Reuters) - A proposal seen by Reuters and bearing the name of a controversial U.S.-backed aid group described a plan to build large-scale camps called “Humanitarian Transit Areas” inside - and possibly outside - Gaza to house the Palestinian population, outlining a vision of "replacing Hamas' control over the population in Gaza."
The $2 billion plan, created sometime after February 11 and carrying the name of the U.S.-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, or GHF, was submitted to the Trump administration, according to two sources, one of whom said it was recently discussed in the White House.
Houthis claim Sunday attack on commercial ship in Red Sea
Yemen's Iran-backed Houthis claimed responsibility on Monday for an attack that damaged a commercial vessel in the Red Sea and forced its crew to abandon ship.
The Houthis "targeted the Magic Seas ship... using two unmanned boats, five ballistic and cruise missiles, and three drones" on Sunday, military spokesman Yahya Saree said in a video statement.
He added that the ship was targeted for violating their ban on navigation to "occupied Palestine's ports."
Houthis claim Sunday attack on commercial ship in Red Sea
Houthi military spokesman Yahya Saree. (File)Roya News
Armenia's PM offers to expose himself in escalating Church row
A bitter standoff between Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan and the Armenian Apostolic Church has seen mass arrests, allegations of a coup plot, and an extraordinary offer by Armenia's leader to reveal his private parts to prove he is a Christian.Earlier this week, Pashinyan told his 1.1 million followers on Facebook he was prepared to expose himself to the head of the Armenian Church and his spokesman, to prove they were wrong that he had been circumcised.
Armenia's PM Pashinyan offers to expose himself in escalating Church row
The bitter standoff between Nikol Pashinyan and the Church has seen arrests and an alleged coup plot.Rayhan Demytrie (BBC News)
GNOME 49 Alpha Released With X11 Support Disabled By Default, Many New Features
GNOME 49 Alpha Released With X11 Support Disabled By Default, Many New Features
The GNOME 49 Alpha '49.alpha' release was just announced as the first formal test release in the road to the GNOME 49 desktop release due out in September.www.phoronix.com
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1: Open files. You can now use ctrl shift n to make a new folder.
2: Open an application. Click save as.. "files" opens. Now you can not use ctrl shift n. I just tested it again. I am also on gnome 48. This is an old an known limitation.
Varcoe: Carney says it's 'highly likely' an oil pipeline will make Ottawa's major project list
Varcoe: Carney says it's 'highly likely' an oil pipeline will make Ottawa's major project list
Varcoe: Prime Minister Mark Carney says it's 'highly likely' an oil pipeline will make Ottawa's list of nationally important projects.calgaryherald
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in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •HelloRoot
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •There is a setting, but I was equally annoyed that it is on by default.
Even more surprising - when I launched the new app miltiple times, it was still marked as new.
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MentalEdge
in reply to HelloRoot • • •It's probably time based.
And this kind of thing isn't for the type of people who mess with settings. If this defaulted to off, then it would actually be useless.
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in reply to MentalEdge • • •Would just be the other way around with what posts you see online. Instead of OP you'd see "how can I find my newly installed apps" and the same "ahem" screenshot reply.
vandsjov
in reply to HelloRoot • • •Except that if people don't know the feature exists, they might not ask about it. If you see the feature exists and you don't want it, it is easier to figure out how to turn it off.
There are many feature that are turned on by default - this is just one of them.
HelloRoot
in reply to vandsjov • • •I see plenty of posts here, on the kde matrix, on the kde forums, on the bugtracker asking for non existing features.
I have no clue about the exact percentages, their motivations or feelings, so it's hard to conclude anything.
Personally, I more often ask for nonexistent features (and i feel no barriers there) than turning off something that is on by default - which is a good sign I guess?
vandsjov
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in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •KDE Devs, I Love You, But Please Remove This Feature
KDE DiscussEllie
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in reply to Ellie • • •raspberriesareyummy
in reply to MyNameIsRichard • • •How about choosing different default settings in an installation based on a central "expert" vs "newbie" setting?
Cris
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •People who find computers useful should be using computers.
This weird idea from some linux users that only people who see their computer as a hobby and have mastery over them should be allowed to use them, and that computers should be designed exclusively around the needs of computer-as-hobby users, is absolutely nuts.
Its a tool. It should be designed to be useful as possible to anyone who needs such a tool.
Sincerely,
Another linux user who cares about UI/UX and is tired of this kind of junk. It's a dumb argument, let's all stop making it please. Linux supports all your "technical user" wildest dreams, let the average people have their features and design considerations too.
raspberriesareyummy
in reply to Cris • • •Twenty years ago I might have agreed. Now, in hindsight, I can say that giving everyone access to computers & thereby the internet has brought out the worst in humanity, including mass-manipulation and authoritarian regimes thanks to people making even worse calls in elections than they used to.
0_o7
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •This is really getting that "old man screams at the cloud" vibe.
Are you okay?
blackbrook
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •The devil is in how things are made useful to users who just want to get things done. The problems comes with corporations making decisions about what users should need to understand, and what users want. There's been a lot of dumbing down and manipulation in that process, serving the needs of those corporations and advertisers and not the needs of the users.
Software can be made useful for those who don't want or need to undertand all the details, in a good, non-harmful way. The principle of separation of interface and implementation even demands it. But our society being what it is, that largely doesn't happen, so I'm inclined to agree with your pessimistic take.
MyNameIsRichard
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in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •I recently installer something, and KDE showed me where it ended up in the launcher, which I appreciated, and now I'm not supposed to use a computer. Really? Thanks.
At least me wife will be happy, but I'll need to find new work.
Ferk
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •What qualifies as "expert" setting can be very divisive.. for me, it would be removing this menu entirely. Or even switching from KDE to sway or similar ^^U
But if I was the kind of people that do use this kind of menus I would probably find that kind of indication useful. It helps finding the category the app you just installed belongs to. If you install an educational app/game that teaches programming by giving instructions to a turtle in order to draw a graphic/picture (I think I have seen something like that before): which category should it be at? games? education? development? graphics?
raspberriesareyummy
in reply to Ferk • • •everett
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •Welcome to a future of forever arguing which features are gimmicks.
This one, for example, is not.
vandsjov
in reply to raspberriesareyummy • • •Everything in the desktop is a gimmick... remove all visible things of the desktop and only show apps. Settings can be handled in a text configuration file. Or are some of these gimmicks actually useful, even for "experts"?
I have many times, installing a new app on a Windows Server, just gone in and seen the latest installed app and clicked on it. Sorry, that is my best example as that is where I most often use this feature - I don't install that many apps on my desktops.
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in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •Cas
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •I’m glad there’s a toggle, it seems like it would actually be useful here but I’d probably turn it off.
With that said, there’s a special place in hell for the multitudes of apps that have red notification dots all over the UI with no clear indicator as to what they’re about or how to clear them 😁
Deebster
in reply to Cas • • •mnmalst
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •I cannot wrap my head around the use case of this. Is the attention span of people really this degraded in 2025 that they need to be reminded what program they just installed?
I think the author has a valid point. This just clutters the UI and adds unnecessary mental load by directing your focus to the indicators every time you open the application menu.
Don't get me wrong, I am not against a "new" label in every context but in this specific case it just feels unnecessary.
*edit: If the use case is: Little Timmy installed a new program on grandmas PC and now she can see the new program better I guarantee you grandma will be super confused when the green dot disappears and from that time on can't find the program anymore.
I support a couple of KDE systems with users like Grandma and a dynamic UI like this is contra productive in my experience.
For grandma you put the app she is supposed to use in the taskbar as a starter and that's it. No "new" label needed.
dan
in reply to mnmalst • • •Ferk
in reply to mnmalst • • •It's more about which category a particular specific software belongs. If a kid installs an educational app/game that teaches programming by giving instructions to a turtle in order to draw a graphic/picture (I think I have seen something like that before). Which category should it be? games? education? development? graphics?
I personally don't use this kind of menus with categories, I prefer dmenu style launchers where you type to search what you need. But if I was the kind of people that do use these kind of menus I would probably find that kind of indication useful.
mnmalst
in reply to Ferk • • •deadcade
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •I was very annoyed when I got this, but remembered that it's KDE, and turning it off is 4 clicks. Proprietary software often doesn't allow you to turn this off (easily). Windows has this "feature", where is the setting?
I don't think it's a productive "feature", but considering it can be turned off so easily I don't consider it a complete showstopper.
raspberriesareyummy
in reply to deadcade • • •KDawful reminds me again why I ditched it for XFCE.
mriswith
in reply to deadcade • • •I assume youre talking about W11?
Because the "Show recently added apps" setting is third option in the start menu settings on W10.
deadcade
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in reply to deadcade • • •Captain Aggravated
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in reply to deadcade • • •Ferk
in reply to nightofmichelinstars • • •How does this give incentive for that?
My understanding is that this only happens in newly installed apps, not recently updates ones. They are only highlighted because the user installed them, not because the developer did anything.
It's a screenshot of the application launcher, the menu to launch apps already installed, not the software store.
nightofmichelinstars
in reply to Ferk • • •whaleross
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •For every change there is an angry Linux user. Even when it is easily disabled and never a problem again.
On the flip side - how often do you install new programs so this becomes an annoyance in the first place?
I install something new maybe once a month or less for desktop use. I have not even noticed this blip.
Somewhat more often in and for terminal use.
ikidd
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •floquant
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in reply to floquant • • •Aristotelis
in reply to ikidd • • •NewNewAugustEast
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •I find this complaint very strange. It's a dot. It helps people find what they installed.
But if this person doesn't need it, how would they ever see it? Most power users I know never even look in the menu, so they would never know there is a dot in the first place.
DonutsRMeh
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in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •limelight79
in reply to DonutsRMeh • • •When I install a new application, I generally run it immediately. Having the new indicator might be nice to help find it - they don't always drop into the menu where I expect.
I agree, I can't see why it upsets the author so much. "You've installed a new app, here it is." "YYYEEEAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!"
AnitaAmandaHuginskis
in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •corsicanguppy
in reply to AnitaAmandaHuginskis • • •"Go edit the source" is starting to look like the new "let them eat cake".
How quickly you trivialize the work of the experienced kde devs that some pedestrian can wander in and mod a large project without fear.
Aristotelis
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