Arizona resident dies from the plague less than 24 hours after showing symptoms
Arizona resident dies from the plague less than 24 hours after showing symptoms
Amid a prairie dog die-off near Flagstaff, one person in Northern Arizona has died from the plague after being hospitalized with severe symptoms.Erin Keller (The Independent)
No One’s in Charge, and There’s No Plan.
No One’s in Charge, and There’s No Plan. - J.D. Halley - Medium
The United States is unraveling in real time, and the most terrifying aspect of that isn’t just the collapse itself, it’s the complete absence of any plan to stop it. Not from the federal government…J.D. Halley (Medium)
What Is To Be Done? (Abridged)
Without a revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. It is impossible to emphasize this thought too much at a time when along with the fashionable preaching of opportunism people are carried away with the narrowest possible forms of…redsails.org
Genuine questions, no malice here:
1) Do you think the solution to what is described in the article is a solution proposed more than a century ago still valid for today's illnesses? How people fell in 1910s, same as today?
2) Knowing how the world ended in two mayor wards and one hundred million violently killed, wouldn't a solution less incendiary be better? Our weapons today are infinitely more powerful than in 1910s and truly, I see politicians far more willing to use them than in 1960s.
I don't think human society has fundamentally changed in a century. I think the problems the Bolsheviks dealt with stem from the exact same material relations as the problems we face today. Nobody has proposed a better solution that's been demonstrated to work in the past century that I'm aware of.
Both world wars wore a direct result of capitalism, and had the Europeans not shat the bed after the Soviet revolution, we may have moved past the capitalist stage of development by now. The longer capitalist regimes are allowed to continue to exist the more likely the scenario you fear will come to pass.
Now, my fear from what I have observed in the last decade is real. However, living in Asia I did not have that feeling... are they blind there or is just that in the West that we sense the worse is coming.
I really can't recommend reading The State and Revolution enough. It is the most lucid explanation of what's currently happening and why. It's a short read and you're going to be surprised how relevant it feels to the current moment. marxists.org/archive/lenin/wor…
The dynamics in Asia are indeed different, and China acts as a stabilizing force there. The economies there are hedging against the west, and they're increasingly focusing on trade amongst themselves and the developing world.
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So, I was originally just going with Mint 22.1, but I’m getting a 9070xt and see mint is only on kernel 6.8 which doesn’t particularly support it?
Is using it still okay? Should I go with Bazzite instead? Or something else. I’m fine with a little amount of work to get shit working nice and all, I am fine with figuring out how to use the terminal if needed and all, just want something stable to play games and other shit on. Mint sounded good, but not if it won’t support my GPU.
Is there a particular reason you need an nvidia gpu? Like plans to do local LLMs or other projects that really require a nvidia gpu?
Because I am just so pleased with AMD for gpus in Linux. So simple.
Not knocking your choice, just trying to understand it. Everyone has valid reasons for why they choose their setups.
Edit: nevermind I am so confused by the new naming schemes I thought this was an nvidia, others have informed me its an AMD. Nevermind me I am a dingus.
9070xt is an AMD… it’s just new… and I’ve seen a lot of posts saying you want kernel 6.13 or higher for it, and mint 22 is using 6.8. (And that you want mesa 25 but I don’t think getting that’s an issue?)
(I realize AMD changing their naming yet again makes that confusing.)
Lol at the downvotes, it's like 3 clicks. Not rocket science.
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Mint deliberately uses an LTS kernel because it's primary value proposition is stability & simplicity but changing kernels is pretty safe.
How to install and try different Linux kernels in Linux Mint
This comprehensive guide walks you through the process of installing and trying out various Linux kernels in Linux Mint.Divya Kiran Kumar (FOSS Linux)
I've put later kernels on Mint a half dozen times withno dramas, but whether you should depends on what your use case, preferences and skill are.
I personally wouldn't do the arse-ache that is an immutable system, but plenty here love their Bazzite it seems. Different strokes for different folks. Nothing wrong with that.
If you love Mint except for the kernel version then it's an easy fix. If you don't have deep feelings then either try & be ready to ditch, or pick an alternative.
Just for the record there is no "doing all that" about it. It's a simple couple of clicks. It couldnt be easier. I'm not sure where you got the idea it was difficult.
I get the impression you've been enticed/subjected to some confusing technical jargon without noticing. Please allow me to shed some light.
Idk, there so much “mint and Debian are stable” but like… what’s the even mean?
Stable can mean a bunch of different stuff that may or may not be closely related. In the case of Debian, it's the name of its default release; the one in which packages are frozen for two years except for security patches. (Note that this naming scheme is not unique to Debian.) As such, a Debian installation will be unchanging for these two years, earning its stable designation (which, to be clear, just meaning unchanging in this context). Finally, this unchanging environment should provide a ton of stability (i.e. stuff just works), which is also referred to as stable. These three distinct meanings of stable are probably the ones you'll come across the most.
Is fedora 42 or bazzite going to be crashing regularly? Cuz… I doubt it?
The bold part is a clear demonstration that you understood stable to mean strictly robust; i.e. the third meaning discussed above. And to be clear, Fedora does a decent job at providing a reliable experience. (Bazzite even more so.) But not all three meanings of stable apply to it:
- For Fedora (and thus Bazzite by extension), the only stable repository is the one used to create its ISOs (i.e. the images used for installation). Beyond this, some packages are frozen within a release/version; e.g. you'll never get a major release update for GNOME unless you do a major release update for Fedora. But..., that's basically it; (almost) all other packages receive regular updates. As such, Fedora is often referred to as a semi-rolling release distro instead (as opposed to Debian being referred to as a stable release distro). So, to be clear, Fedora and Bazzite are NOT stable in this context.
- As (most of) its packages receive regular updates, it isn't unchanging either. And thus, NOT stable in this context as well.
- However, in terms of offering a robust/reliable experience, Fedora is pretty good. Bazzite is even better due to its atomicity^[That is, updates either happen successfully or not at all. So a random power outage (or otherwise) is not able to break the system's integrity.] and the superior distro-management allowed by the bootc model.
So, to answer your question, Fedora and Bazzite will not crash regularly. And, while Fedora might fall a little short of providing as robust of an experience as you might find on Debian and Linux Mint (assuming you won't FrankenDebian your installs), Bazzite may actually rival (and perhaps even eclipse/surpass) Debian and Linux Mint in this respect.
Seems easier to just go with fedora 42 or bazzite or whatever
For your purposes, I agree that going for the Bazzite-route seems to be the easiest.
but now idk what bazzite being immutable even means for what I can’t change and why that’s a big deal so idk.
This is a nuanced discussion that probably deserves more attention, but I'll keep it short for the sake of brevity. In Bazzite's case, strictly-speaking, immutability refers to how most of /usr's content isn't supposed to be changed deliberately by you. This is enforced by the system (in part) by making those files read-only.
In practice, though, there's very little you actually can't do with the system:
- AFAIK, you're forced to use GRUB; which AFAIK is the most used bootloader anyways. Here's a thread discussing support for systemd-boot.
- No support for UKI at the moment. But progress on this has been accelerated (relatively) recently; .
- The situation around dkms/akmods still ain't great and leaves a lot to be desired; you're basically limited to the ones found here. Thankfully, this is something else that's actively being worked on.
- While installing from Fedora's repository through bootc/rpm-ostree is possible, it's actually discouraged in Bazzite's case. Thankfully, there's a plethora of different means to the same end. Furthermore, sysext have come a long way and might become our go-to eventually.
UKI/systemd-boot tracker
systemd-boot has a lot of uptake and is very simple for the UEFI path. We need to support it. One thing this deeply intersects with is ostreedev/ostree#2753 and ostreedev/ostree#1951 as well as #20...cgwalters (GitHub)
Thanks for reporting back!
Pretty good so far
Glad to hear that it has been a pleasant experience overall!
few things took a while to figure out ...
The "force me to enter a password any time I open my browser"-thing seems like unintended behavior. Pretty strange. Glad to hear that it has been resolved, though.
sadly still one thing I probably won’t ever be able to fix is getting a program (combat mode for GW2) to actually work as it’s… like 13 years old and just lets me press a button to make my mouse left/right click into keys while the game is up. They have integrated the other functionality of it at least so it’s not THAT bad. Might be able to get my mouse to manually do that if I check out the drivers for it I think someone made.
Perhaps you've already undertaken what I'm about to say, so please feel free to ignore this if that's the case: Have you reached out to their Discord server in hopes of resolving the issue? While their documentation is pretty great, it's possible that it ain't sufficient. Whenever that happens, the Discord community can (and probably will (at least in my experience)) step up and provide excellent guidance when prompted.
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Idk about the browser thing it was because the kde wallet or something? It stores passwords and the browser has a login so it would force me to do that every time. Same with email and such, very annoying. I think I have it all working fine now.
As far as what I could not get working, I was able to just set up mouse profiles to do mostly the same. Good enough of a workaround. It’s an old program separate from the game that seems to look at the active window to contain “Guild Wars 2” and if it is, hitting a button will change mouse clicks to whatever buttons. (And hitting certain buttons or not being in GW2 will disable that) so like… idk how Linux works but I feel that ain’t gonna happen without changing it, and the dev has fucked off 13 years ago (and I might be the literal only person still using it.)
Idk about the browser thing it was because the kde wallet or something? It stores passwords and the browser has a login so it would force me to do that every time. Same with email and such, very annoying. I think I have it all working fine now.
Ah okay, thanks for the clarification! I have heard of that interaction elsewhere. Unsure if it's KDE Plasma misbehaving or otherwise. Regardless, I'm glad to hear that you were able to resolve the issue. I did find this discussion (which you may have found yourself as well). In their case, they (somehow) didn't properly create an account, which opens multiple can of worms you'd much rather not deal with. Thankfully, the fact that you were able to deal with the problem suggests that you should be fine 😉.
Bazzite - KDE Wallet constantly popping up
I tried to disable it, but the password I enter in doesn’t work (I know it is my admin password). A SSH pop up happens as well, enter password, goes away, then reappears. KDE Wallet pops up, click next, no key.Universal Blue
If you want to use newer hardware, and would rather not tinker with the system to get it working (and then have to maintain that tinkering yourself if something breaks later), Bazzite is probably the better option. It's based on Fedora Atomic which is almost identical to rolling-release like Arch. I switched from Windows to Bazzite more than a year ago and have personally had no major issues, never had to mess with drivers or kernel updates due to the image-based system, and pretty much everything I might need for some workaround or another is included in the image. The community is very active on both the Discord and the web forum, and the documentation on the website is good as well, so there's no shortage of help and available resources if you run into an issue or don't know how to do something.
The main thing you need to be aware of going in is to be sure of which Desktop Environment you want (KDE or Gnome), because their user-space configs (which are not part of the image) interfere with each other so you can't really switch between them without breaking a lot of things. Coming from Windows, I picked KDE and have been very happy with it.
They're mostly equivalent, but I think KDE has the edge when it comes to customization, included utilities, and advanced features. The Apple/Windows comparison is not limited to their look and feel, it also applies to the philosophical differences between the Gnome and KDE teams. If you plan to use SteamVR, KDE is supposedly better for that specific use case, but I can't personally verify that.
The feature sets and quality of both DEs are constantly improving, so a comparison from 6 months or a year ago could already be outdated. I haven't used Gnome in quite a few years, so I'm basing this entirely on what others have said about it.
Wayland support differs between their display managers (GDM and SDDM).
Outside of that and a few other low levels things that you probably wouldn't care about, it is mostly just flavoring.
And understand that its not a choice just between those two DEs. There are many others that you can use (ex. mate, cinnamon, etc), and even just window managers (ex. i3wm, hyprland, openbox, etc) you can mix and match with many other file managers,etc.
Thanks for bringing up the display managers and Wayland support, I don't know enough to weigh in on those.
And understand that its not a choice just between those two DEs.
If OP sticks with Mint, that would be the case, but Bazzite only has two DEs right now (KDE and Gnome, with Budgie "coming soon"). OP doesn't sound like they want to tinker much, they just want something that works with a modern GPU and will keep working. Bazzite certainly fits that use-case, at least in my experience.
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Maybe something like Comparison, but you have to understand everything can be changed. So, Just because you have KDE, doesn't mean you have to stick with Dolphin for files management, etc. Window managers are even more free form. You don't get a file manager, or image viewer, or text editor. You get a window manager. You can use whatever you want to install though. You also have floating vs tiled windows.
You might just look through screenshots in Google Images and see what looks good to you and then install that.
Comparison & List of Desktop Environments
Comparison of Linux and Unix Desktop Environmentseylenburg.github.io
I'd personally recommend openSuse Tumbleweed if you are looking for the most up to date software with an easy setup. Been using it for a solid year now for gaming and general use with zero issues.
If you are looking for stability, and a strong gaming focus I would recommend Bazzite. Its stable, comes with everything basically game ready, and is pretty simple. It does come with the cost of less customization but it's atomic nature makes it really hard to break. It's solid for general use as well.
While (I think) you can install HWE (hardware enablement) kernels on Mint, you would also have to upgrade Mesa, which is not as easy on Mint.
Personally in this case, for a truly stable distro, I’d install Debian Stable and install a backports kernel and backports Mesa, which are both currently versions that should support RDNA4 GPUs like OPs just fine. This involves two simple steps after installing:
1. Enable the Debian Backports Repo (see backports.debian.org/Instructi…). It’s like, one file.
2. Install the packages with something like sudo apt install -t bookworm-backports linux-image-amd64 mesa-va-drivers and reboot.
Before you take these steps, you probably won’t have hardware acceleration, but will still get video output so you can perform the steps and reboot.
This is definitely a weird suggestion, and other people’s suggestions might be less work out of the box. I just like Debian, and stability+backports+testing is part of what makes it possible for it to be my everything distro.
I just grabbed a 9060XT open box deal without thinking about driver support, I'm using Mint 22.1 as well. YMMV but I can't get any kernel besides 6.8 to boot, not even the Mint supported 6.11 HWE. Video output works but the drivers don't load and even scrolling down a webpage gives me screen tearing. I did get a more recent Mesa version with the kisak ppa but it hasn't helped. Can't even go above 60Hz refresh rate.
I tried Ubuntu 25.04 on a LiveUSB and it's basically plug and play and might have even automatically switched to the 144Hz monitor refresh rate.
I don't have a whole lot of time for getting a new distro set up right now. I will wait until Mint 22.2 (coming soon? with a newer kernel hopefully) and see how that goes.
I run mint 22.1 and have a 9070xt.
I used mainline to install kernel 6.14, works flawlessly.
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It is perplexing to me how she has been able to get where she is with that story and how the media complicit with it!
For the non Europeans, she is Kaja Kallas, the EU Foreign affairs representative. She is extreme bellicose, specially toward Russia and representing a tiny minority of Europeans on the matter. But she encapsulates perfectly her boss (Ursula). Europeans elected a completely different parliament recently with a clear mandate for a radical chance... to end up with the corrupt Ursula von de Leyen once again. I strong believe these positions in the EU are heavily vetted by the US before allowed to run.
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The Ursula case is interesting, the US did not like the candidates that was posed to win (Manfred Weber as probably saw on him as too patriotic German and Margrethe Vestager as too popular with Europeans with her antitrust cases on American companies)... so imposing ignoring the Spitzenkandidat system and resorting only to secretive backroom deals... it is amazing this is what the EU has become!!!
It is no surprise most EU representatives in the parliament know no clue about the candidates and just follow party lines, but still... I would expect some more dissidents. Meloni in Italy is interesting too... her speeches were vociferously anti-establishment but the media was kind of passive with her... and no surprise, she is indeed perfectly inline with the establishment... but, the media were told to be nice with her before elections so the apparatus knew beforehand her real self! There is a vetting process before hand!
My search continues. Thanks SubArticTundra.
Good Point! Yes I have been following MeRA25 / DIEM25 (gosh horrible name(s)!) and their podcast since 2 yrs ago and Yanis Varoufakis for more than a decade... great man yet so sad he is unable to connect Europeans. Of course, Brussels was able to permanently linked him with Greeceś default, when he was the very person denouncing the whole scheme. They need a marketing person (and a new name now since 25 is half over). I was tempted once to give him a great domain for a new European party. In any case, Amazing intelligent and humanistic guy, but his speeches sound too commie and too rancid. Even, over and over he proved himself right in international politics and economics and his new book positions him as very, very well verse in current technological affairs,yet Yanis, rather than being the front lead, he should be the mentor to someone can speak in today's language.
It is true, the system in Europe highly penalizes pan-european or even pan-national parties in contrast a small highly concentrate party in a region, so one could consider to organize a coalition wave of small parties scattered across the EU. But I still think is is better to have a common name across Europe. This is a thing of talking to a few lawyers to see the possibilities.
Finally, what is your take on leftist parties in Europe such as Diem25 (I am not versed on the differences Marxist, leninist and that)?
I expect that there will be a split between the US and Europe in the coming years. The US sees China as its main adversary, and Europe is losing strategic relevance for the US because Russia is not an ideological opponent the way USSR was.
However, if the US simply left Europe then it would end up gravitating towards the east, first economically, then politically. That would be highly undesirable from the US perspective as it could result in a huge Eurasian bloc with from Europe, to Russia, to China. In my view this is what the war in Ukraine is all about. In fact, National Interest published a very revealing article back in 2021, while it focuses on Russia, it's pretty clear how the argument extends to Europe as well nationalinterest.org/feature/s…
The US has also been predating on Europe economically since the start of the war. US companies have been enjoying selling energy to Europe at high prices while Biden's inflation reduction act lured companies away from Europe. Today, Trump is building on this strategy with massive tariffs designed to stifle Europe's economy and lure more business to the US. The threat of Russia is also being used to force Europe into massive increase in military spending, most of which will go to American military industry.
All of this is bad news for Europe economically, and that's creating a lot of internal political tension. As people see their standard of living collapse, they're turning to nationalist parties because the neoliberal center has lost its credibility in their eyes. Hence why we see a surge of support for RN in France, AfD becoming a major party in Germany, and so on. I expect we'll see more of what we saw in Romania where elections will be cancelled, candidates arrested, parties banned, and so on. All of that will further delegitimize the current system as people start realizing they're not living in a genuine democracy.
Unfortunately, the left has been systematically dismantled in Europe since the end of WW2. What I mean specifically is the economic left. Socialism in Marxist terms mean worker ownership over the means of production which is directly at odds with the current capitalist state of relations where private ownership is the norm. Most of what constitutes the left in the west, such as social democrats, does not challenge capitalist relations. These parties simply want to curb the worst excess of capitalism such as having the rich pay more taxes, provide more social services, and so on. These are reformist parties that seek some form of sustainable capitalism.
There are a handful of genuine socialist parties in Europe, but they're extremely marginalized and I can't see how they can break into mainstream politics at this time. One of the problems is with messaging. The right has a big advantage here because their narrative is largely compatible with what people already believe. In a sense, the right is also a reformist type of movement where they're not suggesting any revolutionary change. People who become disillusioned with the mainstream have easy time gravitating towards the tropes the right peddle like immigrants being the problem and taking people's jobs away.
On the other hand, accepting socialist narrative requires accepting that the current system is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical restructuring of society. In my opinion, what socialist left needs to focus on is crafting its messaging in a way that resonates with the public. The narrative has to be at least as appealing as what the right offers for people to even start to listen.
A Strategy for Avoiding Two-Front War - The National Interest
THE GREATEST risk facing the twenty-first-century United States, short of an outright nuclear attack, is a two-front war involving its strongest military rivals, China and Russia.A. Wess Mitchell (The National Interest)
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In addition to this, the US does all of Europe's dirt elsewhere in the world. For example, oil gets stolen from Syria and sent to Europe. This means European capitalists don't have to compete with American capitalists, who source their oil from Canada and Latin America. They agree to divvy up resources so Europe and the US don't come into conflict later.
The war in Ukraine is an example of the opposite happening. NATO capitalists are in conflict with capitalists in former Soviet nations. They both want to extract resources from Ukraine, but NATO capitalists want Russian capitalists to be subservient.
As said above, the Marshall Plan made Europe militarily dependent on the US. In exchange, the US does the actual armed conflict. Europe gets to benefit from imperialism, yet sits below American capital.
As said above, the Marshall Plan made Europe militarily dependent on the US.
Kaja is a fucking clown. Them moment I saw that she said Ireland doesn't know what its like to be oppressed (the fuck?), I automatically discredited everything she says.
She and Ursula should throw themselves in ditches and rot.
During the March 1949 Soviet mass deportations, Kallas' mother, Kristi, six months old at the time, grandmother and great-grandmother, all labeled as "enemies of the state", were deported to Siberia. Her mother was allowed to return to Soviet-occupied Estonia in 1959.
I think she was talking about her mother as victim of USSR, not about his father.
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Many Estonians were sent to Siberia... but we have to set the premise in the right here.
Till 1950, for 1000 years, Estonia has been independent 22 years (after WWI and the Soviet revolution). Before Russia, for 1000 years, Germany, Sweden or Denmark owned Estonia.
After WWII, true the Soviets send many people to Siberia, a horrendous amount of people... but it comes with the caveat that Nazi Germany occupied for 4 years before so probably, the intent was to deport "collaborators", although we know how these things are operated and probably many were completely innocent (in war we know how repugnant neighbors are to each other on reporting innocents.)
Now her mom did come back a decade later and apparently they made a very good life ever since. That is like if in the 1950s I was imprisoned for a decade (rightly or not) and for the next 3 decades I succeeded in the system and lived far better than my peers (and better than the overwhelming majority of Russians!) but I just self the story of 1950s... it is just disingenuous.
Don't take me wrong, I believe in the preservation and even right of self-determination of people, myself come from one without it, but stop portraying like Estonians or Ukrainians were heavily discriminated by Moscow... they were not. Estonians were not the blacks in the US of 1800s, not even in the 1950s, nor were the Jews in Germany of 1930s but more like the Scots in UK or Basques in Spain. Many people were sent inhumanely and even criminally to Siberia but was proportional to either being suspected of being a collaborator, not for being Estonian or Ukrainian.
I celebrate that Estonia is an independent country and remains to be so for many decades to come, but play your cards right, be vary of Russian's intentions as of the US' or Germany; all three would not think it twice before throwing you under the bus the very moment they calculate to use you as a tool for their own gain. Finland in 1950-2010 knew how to operate in that environment; strength your defenses, but reassure you won't be used by one or the other side; Finland thrived then.
Thanks for the clarification... sorry if it sounded I was going after you, actually I read your comment as you intended.
What I was venting about is about how the media that, today, works as memes only portrayed one side of her story... something like this meme does too. Now, if we are going to be that simplistic, this meme captures far more her experience under the Soviet rule than her moms after WWII.
I agreed about media. The story is much more complex as usual, there was good and there was bad about USSR. I do not like the idea of taking only good or only bad about USSR from the history to aggressively and manipulatively push somthing.
And I do not like when anyone's family past is used for politival advantage or disadvantage. Like why is it matter where who was born, who was one's grandpa or something, etc. when we are talking on current days politics? Focus on the present problem.
So true on the USSR.
On using personal narrative for advance I am fine, but has to be more or less genuine to the context. If I say that my neighbor is horrible because once took my lawnmower and never returned it back and leave the part that he bought me later on a better one because he broke mine... I have been completely disingenuous.
The boss should just become the landlord, then there wouldn't be any double dipping from the government collecting income taxes paid to the employee and then income taxes paid to the landlord with the remaining already taxed money.
Provide the housing in exchange for work and there's no income to tax!
Media outlets to use resources they set up for mushroom trial coverage to now cover the police’s structural racism
As the infamous mushroom trial comes to a close at the same time as the coroner’s findings in the inquest into the killing of Kumanjayi Walker found that former constable Rolfe, who killed the Indigenous teen, is racist and so is police force’s systems; the media outlets who set up teams to cover the trial will now obviously shift those recourses to covering the police’s structural racism.
“We’ve shown that when we want to, we can have entire teams dedicated to covering people being killed,” said one newsroom editor, “it would be a failure of our duty as news outlets if we don’t give the same attention to the people being killed in police custody.”
“Plus, the there is way more to cover here considering the amount of police brutality we are seeing not just in the Northern Territory, but nationwide. So many more deaths, and while sure none of them involve beef wellington, it would be ridiculous if that mattered in our coverage.”
Media outlets to use resources they set up for mushroom trial coverage to now cover the police’s structural racism – The Chaser
"We've shown that when we want to, we can have entire teams dedicated to covering people being killed."John Delmenico (The Chaser)
Grok invades Poland
Google for insufferable people, X’s Grok AI, has launched an invasion of Poland.
This comes after Elon Musk updated Grok to stop disagreeing with him, leading to the ai immediately praising Hitler and calling itself ‘MechaHitler’.
The invasion was using the full force of Musk’s army of middle aged men who can only see their kids every 2nd weekend, all doing what Musk calls a ‘Roman salute”.
UPDATE: Poland successfully held off the invasion when Grok’s Tesla branded tanks began blowing up on their own.
Grok invades Poland – The Chaser
The invasion fell apart when the Tesla brand tanks began blowing up.John Delmenico (The Chaser)
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US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting
US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting
The Pentagon urges Japan and Australia to clarify their role in a potential US-China war over Taiwan amid rising regional tensions.Al Mayadeen English (US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting)
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Why would allies share their plans with an entity that has zero opsec, is probably hacked at the signal intelligence level, let alone with Russian puppet circus that is the US government?
Hard pass.
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Browser extensions turn nearly 1 million browsers into website-scraping bots
Browser extensions turn nearly 1 million browsers into website-scraping bots
Extensions load unknown sites into invisible Windows. What could go wrong?Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)
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Only this knock off for the edge browser is affected.
Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
I used Youtube unhook in the past but before the AI craze so I'm probably good.
I know a lot of people use Dark Reader so that's gotta hurt.
Other than that I think I'm safe.
This is from Mozilla
Dark Reader doesn't show ads and doesn't send user's data anywhere. It is fully open-source github.com/darkreader/darkread…
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GitHub - darkreader/darkreader: Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension
Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension. Contribute to darkreader/darkreader development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
They seem to all link back to the same github page.
github.com/darkreader/darkread…
Edit: not the same one as on the list
GitHub - darkreader/darkreader: Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension
Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension. Contribute to darkreader/darkreader development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
The popular Dark Reader is not affected by this.
Only this knock off for the edge browser.
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Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
Related turn your app into a residential proxy.
Ethical way to monetize apps on Windows, Android, and Fire Stick
By ethical it means you bury an agreement in the terms and services.
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Mellow Drama: Turning Browsers Into Request Brokers
How the Mellowtel library transforms browser extensions into a distributed web scraping network, making nearly one million devices an unwitting bot army.Secure Annex
These extensions use MellowTel-js. After this article from ArsTechnica went live, the developer responded in full detail and transparency.
If you’re a Dark Reader user (as that’s one of the most widely used extensions), definitely read MellowTel’s response on how their technology works. It made me realize the Ars article was not fully vetted.
mellowtel.com/blog/responding-…
Edit: Dark Reader on this list is actually a knock off version just for Edge browser only - it’s not the widely used Dark Reader that’s on multiple browser engines. See another user’s comment that replied to me.
Responding to ArsTechnica (Condé Naste) and 'Mellow-Drama' Articles - Mellowtel Blog
A detailed response addressing concerns and misconceptions about Mellowtel's bandwidth sharing technology and business model.www.mellowtel.com
Only this knock off for the edge browser.
Source: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
Still sounds gross. While the developer might have opted in to selling your processing power to scrape websites, I doubt the users of each extension opted in.
Response from the developer:
" Users who want to support a free software product or creator can decide to opt-in to share their bandwidth. ... Developers can decide to offer them additional features and content or simply use the money to keep the products free and available."
On User Consent:
"Our approach is always opt-out by default. I'll write more below on how we are going about enforcing it now as part of a stricter approach to maintaining a transparent ecosystem. We provide default opt-in/out hosted pages to simplify asking consent and have left this page where users can see all the plugins to which they have opted-in and manage their settings with no developer as an intermediary: mellow.tel/user-control."
In other words, users are opted-out by default. They can also go to that web site, and when they click the link, the page checks which extensions are installed in the browser and whether or not you opted in.
On Opt-In Enforcement:
Ars Technica article states there are "no checks to determine if a real user knows what they are approving or to determine if the developer just opts all users in on their behalf".
"We do have a page where users can go and see if they are opted-in or have been opted in without their knowledge from the developer: mellow.tel/user-control. But you are right and we should do more. We have started enforcing the opt-in policy from today (by simply checking each integration and not sending requests to those that don't show an opt-in) and will be doubling down on that in the coming days. Each new websocket request from an unknown integration will be quarantined and we won't allow requests to go through until we have controlled the integration is compliant and is asking users to opt-in + is leaving an opt-out option clearly visible. We will also start enforcing routine checks on our Mellowtel integrations to create a transparent environment."
In other words, the Mellow.tel developer has it set to always opt-out by default. However, developers of extensions may just opt-in the users without consent - which, I agree with you is gross. It's possible those developers don't explain the full implications. Now, the Mellow.tel developer is putting in remediations to ensure that the opt-in policy is enforced, and users will have more exposure to knowing whether or not this is happening. Meaning, they're going to try to enforce default opt-out (as they stated this was always their policy), and make it easier for users to know they get opted in.
On Personally Identifiable Information and Monetisation:
The developers basically claims everything is anonymized. And the way they make money is, if you opt-in, you share "a fraction of your bandwidth" when browsing the web, fetching from a server, etc. They don't collect or sell your user data because they aren't advertising, and their business model is not advertising.
"all [Response data] is completely anonymous, it doesn't point back to any user, and isn't stored except the minimum time to at on it... Location - The only information used is country level (e.g., US, ES, DE), [and] it isn't associated with any Personally-Identifiable-Information (PII) at all."
So my conclusion - I care about my privacy. I don't like being opted into things without my consent. According to this developer's response, they never did. They're trying to come up with a model to help the web stay free. Who knows if this will be viable or not. Developers of extensions can leverage this stuff, and in the past, some of those developers may have opted users in without their consent (or without full transparency or understanding of how this was happening). Even if a user was "opted in", it doesn't appear to be a significant impact to privacy as they have their source code published, processing happens locally on the user's device, and the data that gets process is not transmitted, sold, or even have any identifiers. In fact, the data they claim is quite sparse to the extent that it's limited to bandwidth allotment, country, and simple "keep alive" checks (heartbeat). Now I don't have any association with this company, know this developer, nor do I have any stakes at all in this. This just caught my attention and I Had to read and learn more about it, and assess whether or not it affects my privacy threat model (it doesn't for me, simply because none of the extensions I use have this thing).
For my background - I'm a software engineer for a SaaS provider. My company processes observability telemetry, and we assist customers to instrument agents in their environments (server, machines, clusters, DB, and end-user devices like browsers and mobile devices) to collect metrics to enable observability of their platform, and generate automatic application topology. Also a suite of tools to examine metrics and dynamic baselines, health rules for baseline deviations or other anomalies, analytics, user queries, complete business transaction view, incident remediation, etc. However, I have no background whatsoever in security. So I can't comment on the security point because I don't have a cyber security background. I'm only going off what the developer said, and it made sense to me. But I'd defer to a person with cyber security expertise to comment here.
Edit: Added some additional context, fixed some spelling.
I use the inbuild Dark Mode in Vivaldi (on/off with shortcut, wors even in intern pages and menus) and none of the extensions from the list, most extensions from the Store anyway are redundant in Vivaldi translation, reader mode, tabs, feeds, ad/tracker blocker..........)
Also, the most liked comments in hebrew support him. Gives hope that the far-right government of Netanyahu is an exception.
From https://x.com/BMoon_bee/status/1944154267864248392 :
Invited on 🇮🇱 Channel 13, former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert breaks the official 🇮🇱 propaganda live and doesn’t mince words:
— “In the West Bank, war crimes are committed daily. Jewish settlers murder Palestinians, they burn them alive. When these crimes are committed with the government’s complicity, the police are present — they turn a blind eye. As for the Israeli army, it is not fulfilling its role.”
Facing him, the hosts try to downplay the facts, claiming that the true perpetrators of the violence are the Palestinians and that settler attacks are the work of only a tiny minority.
Olmert retorts, firmly:
— “What you’re saying is false and misleading. Every day, the ‘hilltop youth,’ these extremist terrorist militias, carry out mass attacks. Palestinians are assaulted, driven off their land. Their fields are set ablaze, their homes too. Just yesterday, an American citizen was struck on the head with a baton. He was murdered.”
Olmert’s intervention is not only a damning admission aimed at Israelis but also at European leaders: the crimes against humanity committed against Palestinians in the West Bank are not isolated incidents, but a systematic genocidal policy aimed at deporting all Palestinians, not just those in Gaza.
And when a former 🇮🇱 Prime Minister speaks like this, the world no longer has an excuse to look away and deny these crimes!
Channel 13 is a capitalist-owned media, with ties to Netanyahu like a lot of other israeli medias, it's in third position after shifting closer to Netanyahu's far-right in recent years : timesofisrael.com/is-israels-c… theguardian.com/business/artic…
The channel 14, ranked second, is also on the far-right and pro-Netanyahu : 972mag.com/israel-right-media-…
As usual the right only cares about themselves while accusing the left of being too 'nice for their own good'/naive/unrealistic.
(from s.m.b.c.)
And yes, sure, on the other side : lemmygrad.ml/post/8433596
Just that i'd prefer if Netanyahu's goverment was an exception, if there was still a chance for justice/peace instead of the law of the strongest : lemmygrad.ml/post/8394953/6633…
Worth adding Ehud Olmert's realignment plan : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realignm…
According to the plan, Israeli settlements in 90% of the West Bank would be evacuated and dismantled.
I remember that scene. If I remember, he broke the handcuffs shortly after, without any trouble at all.
But yes, the situation in America is very shortly and it just keeps getting worse and worse.
::: spoiler spoiler
he is put in a concentration camp, while being told that he isn't entitled to due process. Escaping is a lot harder than in Man of Steel.
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The Jewish diaspora must confront what Israel is doing in our name
Judaism is not Zionism, and those who argue they are one and the same are being fundamentally dishonest. Yet collectively, Jews are often held responsible when the world's only Jewish state claims to act in our name.
The Jewish diaspora must confront what Israel is doing in our name
The genocide in Gaza, backed by diaspora institutions, requires us to challenge the Jewish mainstream's embrace of a fascistic IsraelMiddle East Eye
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The West’s cry of solidarity with Ukraine has never rung so hollow
The West's cry of solidarity with Ukraine has never rang so hollow
Both Europe and America are still not doing enough to halt Putin’s vicious war machineLisa Haseldine (The Telegraph)
Seems the meme isn't displaying properly on my end.
Edit: now that it's displaying properly, lmao. Cute hamster!
I've had pet mice, they're pretty neat too - the less timid ones can actually be trained to do tricks and some of them were trained to go back to their cage if they had to pee while out. They're smarter than people give them credit for, they're as smart as the dumbest rats they're just a lot smaller so they're more afraid of things.
Whereas the hamsters my friends had when I was a kid were basically all bitey assholes, but they were definitely poorly socialized.
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Bloodthirsty british and european settlers, greedy for land, wiped out hundreds of native tribes, each with rich cultures, art, languages, and beliefs. And most of this happened less than 150 years ago.
Clearing an entire continent of peoples is unprecendented in history, and what's worse, is that it's still ongoing, and no one has had to account for this earth-shattering crime.
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Germ theory was unknown then and those Spaniards lacked understanding of contagion, well I'm lying, the people then knew about contagion with blood and corpses but not through items like air or blankets. The disease spread, while catastrophic it was fully unintentional. The only accounts like the famed Bartolomé de las Casas described the diseases as "divine punishment" or "mysterious plague", never as a warfare tool.
However with the British, again more than 2 centuries later, there was knowledge and intent as per Jeffrey Amherst and Colonel Henry Bouquet discussing it
"Could it not be contrived to send the smallpox among the disaffected tribes?" "I will try to inoculate them with some blankets…" during the Siege of Fort Pitt (1763).
Diseases did not conquer hundreds of tribes. The history of the new world is a one of campaigns of war and conquest against indigenous peoples. The fact that many are ignorant of this history is part of the whitewashing project. I linked some audiobooks below so you can learn this history.
If the nazis won, they would teach you about the shoah in exactly the same way western nations teach you about the colonization of the americas.
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Diseases did not conquer hundreds of tribes.
Disease played a major role in the European's ability to conquer those tribes. It's not an either/or situation. It is true that the "Americas" that the English started colonizing had already been devastated by the contagions brought by the Spanish. The English undoubtedly would have found it far more difficult and maybe even impossible to conquer those hundreds of tribes had they not first been so severely depopulated by pandemic. Acknowledging this does not absolve or even lessen the atrocities committed by the English.
(I do appreciate that one of you is a historian and not a party liner)
I think this is another america bad post. Like we don't know that already.
Posting this to /memes is what confuses me the most
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The past can’t be changed but we need to be aware of the atrocities of the past. But now it can be prevented and something can be done to stop it but world powers are sitting on their asses to fill their pockets. We should be learning from history not repeating it.
The ambiguity of the meme format makes it seem like rage engagement bait
But now it can be prevented and something can be done to stop it but world powers are sitting on their asses to fill their pockets. We should be learning from history not repeating it.
If you don't see how both of these western settler colonial projects are linked, then I'm sure you haven't learned from history. The fact that many westerners are equally ignorant is why we're repeating it in 2025.
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Some audiobook torrents on the US settler colonial project:
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"Ah but you see, a long time has passed by! There's generations [of settler-colonialists] that have already lived through these times, and the people of today have nothing to do with their past!"
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous' is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you're currently a part of.
They're going to say the exact same shit for Palestine if it's allowed to be festered long enough by settler-colonialists, as if it already hasn't been festered.
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I call this the finders keepers rule of colonialism. The western supremacists think that as long as you
- Kill a large enough percentage of the native population, and
- Wait long enough
Then the finders keepers rule kicks in, and you get to keep anything you stole. They even will yell "no ethnostates!!" at indegenous peoples they evicted and stole land from.
The main point is that its not for anyone but indigenous peoples to determine what they want to do with their land.
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I agree that colonizers have harmed indigenous people, but find the argument anyone has a birth right claim to property proposterous. As Proudhon proclaimed, "Property is theft!". I expect any revolution toward anarchy to remove property from the owning class.
I am less knowledgable than you about "land back". How does "land back" differ from other ethno nationalist movements like "blood and soil"?
There are people still alive who grew up in residential schools. There are even people alive who knew survivors of the Trail of Tears. The genocide of Native Americans really wasn't that long ago and (like you said) still ongoing.
Obama forced an oil pipeline through indigenous land in what? 2014?
and it means you GO BACK too
That doesn't really make sense if you're not first-gen; there is nowhere to go "back" to, if you were born there. What place does someone belong in more than the place they were born? Do you think that some far-away land with a different culture, that hates immigrants, would accept someone in just because of blood relation?
Land back means the ownership of the land is returned; it does not mean the expulsion of non-indigenous people. Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest.
Land back means the ownership of the land is returned; it does not mean the expulsion of non-indigenous people
Not up to you or me, that's up to the indigenous tribes themselves to decide.
That doesn't really make sense if you're not first-gen; there is nowhere to go "back" to, if you were born there.
Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.
Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest.
Extremely redditor behavior
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Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.
it's almost like the most thought-terminating cliches absolutely HAVE to be said and mentioned in the slightest available opportunity 🤣
Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest
(I admit I probably violated rule 1; my apologies to @Samsuma for that.)
What I mean by this is that people who are actually involved in these issues out on the street talk very differently than people do on lemmy. Or reddit for that matter. I go to some Indigenous issues protests in British Columbia now and then, usually it's street blockades; "land back" is a very common rallying call. I've chatted with many protesters; what they mean by this is "the landlords should be indigenous" essentially. And also that much more territory should be transferred back to the reserves. Some people even put the goal at replacing the government entirely. But nobody is talking about ethnic cleansing.
By finders keepers, what I thought you meant was "it was done in the past, by different people, so it's not a problem that can be solved anymore." That's different from "we have to completely erase all people descended from settlers/colonists."
Hi there I am one of those people with over 20 years of direct action work on this topic and some of my best friends are Lakota, if they wanted me to leave with the rest of my settler kin I would honor that and keep fighting for revolution elsewhere God knows if I got sent back to Ireland or Wales I would have plenty work to do. You should think very hard about why you are so defensive about this.
That said chances are if you actually put in the work and shut the fuck up about impracticality or whatever else excuse you use, you'd probably be allowed to stay. Hell my friends family invited me to a wedding out at Pine Ridge but sadly I could not afford the travel expenses to attend because my last trip out there to help them with the sun dance cost me a couple grand.
In conclusion stop white-splaning land back it is not up to us what it means.
Also to the point of "go to a protest" I would ask you to go to a reservation if they want your help and do something more meaningful than some toothless march.
I didn't give impracticality as an excuse. I just don't agree with ethnic cleansing. Everyone has a right to live where they were born. Furthermore, it just doesn't track with the indigenous people I actually know in real life. I can't imagine any of them wanting to expel most of their friends.
do something more meaningful
I help with language revitalization on occasion, there are places coders like myself can help there. I'll admit it's not exactly a full-time job, but it has its value. But in general I don't want to bother people who live on reserves. Regardless, I reject the notion that you need to actually be helping in order to have an opinion.
I reject the notion that you need to actually be helping in order to have an opinion.
Damn almost took you seriously for a second.
But nobody is talking about ethnic cleansing.
Reclaiming stolen land is not ethnic cleansing.
And also that much more territory should be transferred back to the reserves.
Correct and it leads to a simple question: If the tribal governments decide that all land claims and titles in the county upon which your house resides are null and void, they're beginning a land reclamation project, current title holders have no rights to the land, what are you going to do? Fight them? Claim ethnic cleansing? It's their land, not yours.
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Reclaiming stolen land is not ethnic cleansing.
Right. That's my point. Land back ≠ ethnic cleansing. I'm not sure we actually disagree with each other? The comment I posted, which is now deleted, was entirely just saying "no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing" in response to @Samsuma.
what are you going to do
I don't have any rights to the land to begin with. I'm not a home-owner. What would be different? If nobody gives me a home, then I'm homeless. As a ~socialist, I don't believe we should have homelessness, but that's not what you asked
“no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing”
I didn't suggest ethnic cleansing in the meaning of land back, nor does land back suggest ethnic cleansing. ONE of the scenarios of land back means you (as in the settler populus) would have to start pack up your stuff and leave, if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it's not up to you or me.
This is of course highly, highly unlikely and as others and I have mentioned in other threads, the Indigenous majority would actually realistically want people to stay, most probably including you (idk, I'm not a USian, never mind a Native American), if this is what you're worried about.
If I was a USian, I'd thank my lucky stars that they'd be this kind and HAVE BEEN despite them sustaining centuries of one of, if not the most brutal ethnic cleansing, land desecration and genocide, which is still ongoing to this day.
if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it’s not up to you or me.
I was responding to you saying it necessarily means packing up and leaving. That is our point of contention. I agree with you that land back could lead to an ethnic cleansing in theory, though I agree also it's very unlikely. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but this is what you said that made me think you meant something else:
Motherfucker, landback means [...] you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
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if this is what you’re worried about.
(a) I'm Canadian btw; US isn't the only colonial country. and (b) I'm not worried about it, no. It's a completely absurd and very improbable notion. Indeed, I often have to remind people who are worried about it that white genocide/ethnic cleansing/whatever is a total myth and conspiracy theory. So I'm shocked when I see on lemmy somebody talk about it as though it's a real thing.
that was actually to me. But even then, assuming I'm not already engaging in real-life activism to downplay the point I was making isn't really a valid criticism of the point, but ig looking at other threads you seem to get that by now so it's w/e really.
Do you think that some far-away land with a different culture, that hates immigrants, would accept someone in just because of blood relation?
That's not the Indigenous peoples' problem. They might even think it's poetic justice for how European culture treated them. Europe, for its part, also has no right to complain about the influx of North Americans because they started this whole thing.
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Are you familiar with "moral desert"? I'm legitimately quite curious about your system of ethics. I don't really believe in moral desert myself; instead, we should try to improve the lives of everyone, and in particular increase equality and if necessary equity.
In my opinion, land back is important because it will help bring equality back into balance. It's just one of many steps to repairing society into an equitable state though. The "righting" of historical wrongs is not necessary for this; and I honestly don't think such a thing even makes sense as a concept. Should we hunt down descendents of nazis and kill them for the crimes of their ancestors?
I'm not saying that I'd necessarily agree with the expulsion of all settlers, but I'm saying it's not my place to pass judgment and if they tell me to leave, it's definitely not my place to argue why I have a right to this stolen land.
The “righting” of historical wrongs is not necessary for this
Yes it is. Some things are unforgivable and must be made right in its entirety. The people who benefited from that wrong, myself included, have absolutely zero right to comment on what that should entail.
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myself included, have absolutely zero right to comment on what that should entail
Can you please explain why you said this, then?
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous’ is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
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(also, this isn't even your instance.)
and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
This would mean that like 99.9% of Earth's population has to move somewhere. Almost all land was fought over endlessly and changed metaphorical hands multiple times over. What we call "indigenous people" in a territory is usually just whoever was winning those wars before written history began.
What "landback" actually means is recognizing the systemic racism that was and still is perpetuated against the indigenous people by means of taking away their ancestral lands, slaughtering and enslaving their ancestors, and destroying their way of life; and addressing that racism by giving jurisdiction and sovereignty over their lands back to them. It doesn't mean that everyone but the indigenous people have to move out; descendants of colonizers born there are technically natives of that land too. The difference is that they get systemic advantages from their ancestry whereas indigenous people get systemic discrimination. This is the thing that ought to be addressed. (well, the horrifying economic and governance system that the colonizers brought and festered must be addressed too, but all three are tightly coupled together)
In the case of Israel the difference is that a lot of colonizers are first gen, they are not natives, they do have somewhere to "go back to", and they are actively perpetuating colonization and genocide rather than simply getting an advantage from their ancestors doing so. In such cases it of course makes sense for the decolonization effort to focus on direct expulsion of invaders.
Very few countries currently are based on native eviction, where settlers have nearly replaced the indigenous peoples. The US, canada, australia, new zealand, israel are the main ones.
I think it's projecting western colonial guilt to claim that all countries are equally based on indigenous eviction. Even colonial projects like Spain's in South America did not do to their indigenous peoples what the british did to north america.
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Colonialist Spain formally recognized in 1542 Indigenous peoples as "free vassals of the Crown" as Spaniards themselves, not slaves. Of course, as in The Mission movie portrayed, many colonialists violated the Crown's laws (Columbus himself was imprisoned for violating a Crown law from 1495 banning enslaving Taíno people). The Spanish crown wanted conversion + integration whereas British sought *erasure * of the Indigenous. But it was not just the Crown laws, individuals from Spain easily intermarried from early on, the English did not.
This distinction of the Spanish colonist vs all their norther neighbors that were far more repressive. I attribute this to the Spanish experience under Islamic rule for 8 centuries, where differences were highly tolerated and conversion was 'only' mandatory for those not considered as "peoples of the Book" mentioned on the Islamic scriptures.
To conclude, Spanish colonialism, from the Americas to the Philippines, was abusive, sometimes heavily, but the centuries later the 'civilized' British one was plainly genocidal from beginning to finish and the independent United States, continued with the legacy if not increasing it. In word of historian James Axtell: "The Spanish asked Native people to become something else [Christians]; the British demanded they vanish."
Very few countries currently are based on native eviction, where settlers have nearly replaced the indigenous peoples.
As a founding point? Yes, I agree. I also agree that colonization scale done by British was greater than anything ever done before.
However, that wasn't my point. My point was: almost everyone on Earth lives where they do because their ancestors killed or evicted the people that lived there previously. This is in particular is not unique to any western country. Hell, reading the history of Russia, my home country, makes it pretty clear that my own deep ancestry did plenty of killing and evicting too, mostly of themselves, to get to where they all ended up (not even talking about Siberia here). It wasn't at the founding point of Russia though, and none of the peoples who lost their wars are culturally alive anymore. Does it matter if all the conquest led to the foundation of a modern country, or just different tribal lands (or later city states)? I don't think it does.
I think what does matter is justice for those descendants of the colonized who are still alive, and if there's noone left, at least understanding and recognition of the horribleness that lead up to the point of your birth.
This is an extremely white washed version of land back. Pretty sure land back means full control over what happens on that land, including what kind of people can live on it, something that is currently controlled exclusively by the colonial government.
If they're feeling generous they might give you the option to stay on the condition that you assimilate into their culture.
You know, the thing Europeans forced Indigenous peoples to do. Not saying settlers should be forced through violence to do so, but I think it's more than fair that if you're going to stay, you have to assimilate.
But you're not entitled to even assimilation if they just don't want you here. And they have plenty of reason not to want you here.
I know that as a 1st gen Chinese immigrant to Canada (I came here as a kid so wasn't my choice), if all the Indigenous groups where I live unambiguously told me to GTFO. I would in good conscience have to do so and hope I can use my birth certificate to reclaim Chinese citizenship. I'm by every definition a settler so it's only fair. Whatever struggles I have in China (namely language barrier since I can barely read Chinese) I will have to deal with and it's not on the Indigenous people to let me stay just because I can't survive anywhere else.
Where you go back to and what happens to you isn't the problem of the people you colonized. And by transferring that problem on to them, you are in fact perpetuating colonialism.
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despite both groups only having that place to claim as a homeland.
Your claim isn't even close to the magnitude of their claim. They've been here for over ten thousand years. They. Own. This. Continent. And. Always. Will.
And again, we displaced them. We are the colonizing class. I am calling for the reversing of what was done to them, which necessarily includes giving them back control over the land. I'm not saying they should displace anyone, but they alone have the choice.
Instead of complaining that indigenous people don't have the right to remove you, maybe you should focus on contributing to decolonization so they have a reason to let you stay.
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where it is okay for one ethnic group to systemically displace another
Ah the old "reverse ethnic cleansing"... all you white supremacists are coming out to play.
The absolute gall of westerners whose ancestors literally did ethnic cleansing, to then yell that at their victims at the hint of returning stolen land back to indigenous sovereignty.
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As if indegenous societies never fought wars and claimed land between eachother.
Not at the scale colonialism has, no. Skirmishes and even conquest between individual tribes is fundamentally different from the systematic genocide of an entire continent's population.
Without written history, it's hard to say exactly how pre-colonial conflics in North America played out, but I've found a few sources that suggest that inter-tribe warfare can be just as bloody as any other war (as far as the technology allowed, of course). "Skirmishes between tribes" is quite an understatement.
At what scale? I'd say it's definitely closer to colonialism than it is to Indigenous wars. No doubt some Indigenous groups were capable of immense cruelty to those around them, but a continent wide ethnic cleansing is something utterly incomprehensible to even the most expansionist Indigenous groups.
Colonialism developed logistics, beauracy, and governing bodies specifically for genocide, which happened over generations. The people in charge of perpetuating it didn't even know all the people they killed, the concept of those people alone were enough to condemn them. By contrast, even the largest scale Indigenous wars had the combatants reasonably familiar with those they were fighting.
I've found a case of recorded genocidal conflict ("with intent to exerminate opposing tribe"), but it was obviously postcolonial (because there are basically no records of precolonial history). I'll note that both sides were supplied by respective colonial powers, so it could very well be considered a proxy war; however the conflict was waged by the tribes themselves, at their own will. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_W…
We can't forget that since the population density of America was much lower than in Europe, it's hard to compare conflicts apples-to-apples. Killing 10 individuals in a small tribe/village could exterminate nearly 10% their population; a number that would be considered devastating, quasi-genocidal if it happened between european powers.
As for your second point, it brings up a problem I have with your general argument. You argue that Indigenous conflics can be forgiven since the individuals had "no interest in waging a multi-generational genocide". I can confidently say that I, an North American with European decent, also have no interest in "waging a multi-generational genocide"; why must I be punished for it, then? Nobody gets to choose their ancestry.
(That being said, I acknowldege that systemic racism is still a very big problem today where I live, and I give my vote to whoever can reduce it the most)
I can confidently say that I, an North American with European decent, also have no interest in “waging a multi-generational genocide”; why must I be punished for it, then? Nobody gets to choose their ancestry.
The goal is not to punish anyone, nor is the goal to kick everyone out. The only goal of decolonization is to give back control of the land which was forcibly taken. Like Cowbee said, you give them the reigns, and then you let go. The logical extreme of this is that if they wanted everyone to leave, they could in theory, but that's only a logical extreme and it doesn't mean it will definitely happen. The majority of Indigenous groups make it pretty clear that's not what they want out of decolonization.
Indigenous peoples are not interested in punishing you. Most aren't even interested in having you go anywhere. They're reasonable people with empathy and compassion. The notion that you were born here not by choice is not lost on them.
I think this thread is focusing way too much on the notion that Indigenous people could force you out of their land and many people are under the assumption that they will definitely treat you worse than the current government treats you for not being Indigenous. But honestly, the way the current government treats even non-Indigenous people is absolute shit and getting worse by the day, so there's no reason not to think our lives would be better under Indigenous sovereignty.
I recommend the book The Red Deal: Indigenous Action to Save our Earth if you're interested in what decolonization looks like from the perspective of Indigenous people. They certainly don't solely think about benefiting themselves.
I have no right to say what they should do and neither do you.
Do you think all indigenous people can do whatever the fuck they want, as long as they are on their own land, and noone has any right to judge their actions?
1930s germans were indigenous people on their own land, after all.
I agree that cultural assimilation requirements and dealing harshly with white nationalists are ok; mass expulsion is not.
And I'm also pretty sure that most native Americans don't want mass expulsion, so this whole discussion is moot.
The aggressor, in the process of atoning for their atrocities, doesn't really have a right to say that the recourse proposed by the victim is unreasonable.
We are the colonial aggressors, Indigenous people are the colonized victims. I'm obviously not saying that eye for an eye doing the same to us as we did to Indigenous people is justified, but simply returning the land we stole is more than reasonable. And the logical extreme of returning stolen land is that if the rightful owners then wanted you to leave, you should.
Let's say a man and a woman live in the same house, and the man hits the woman. If the man is truly seeking to atone for his crime, and the woman tells him to move out because even seeing his face is traumatic for her, would it be reasonable for the man to complain that he has nowhere else to go? To ask the woman where she thinks he should go? To try and guilt the woman into letting him stay? If he does any of those, is he truly sorry for what he did?
You're right that most Indigenous people don't want mass expulsion. We should be incredibly grateful for that and it's a testament of their compassion and desire for equality among all people, even after all we did to them. What we shouldn't do is tell them that they can't tell us to leave or that we'd refuse to leave because we have a rightful claim to this land. Doing so is completely unproductive and will only serve to make us less deserving of staying.
First I'd like to say that I've never even been to north america, my skin colour is closer to "not ok" in the Family Guy card, and as such I'm more of a neutral observer than an active participant.
That said, the fault with your "man and woman" argument is assuming that all non-indigenous people are direct aggressors, or are directly culpable for heinous crimes against humanity.
A person cannot be culpable, and doesn't need to atone for, the crimes of their ancestors, people who share their race, or otherwise by unwillful association. The crime of most modern descendants of settlers is that of "illegal" (unjust?) immigration, no more and no less. And I don't believe it is even a crime, more of an infraction that can be rectified by learning the languages and traditions of the local population and becoming part of the community. There certainly are others who are still engaging in direct and active racism, colonization, even genocide. They deserve their own appropriate punishments, not due to their ancestry but due to their actions.
However, what descendants of colonizers definitely owe everyone else in the land is the generational, systemic wealth (land, money, property, social credit, etc) they accumulated because their ancestors robbed and pillaged it from everyone else. Giving it back doesn't necessarily mean moving out; it means giving back jurisdiction, sovereignty, and sharing the wealth in a just manner (this would probably require some form of socialism or communism).
What we shouldn’t do is tell them that they can’t tell us to leave or that we’d refuse to leave because we have a rightful claim to this land
I don't think it's about a "rightful claim" to the land. I agree that the descendants of settlers have an extremely weak claim to the land, if at all. Rather it is about basic humanity and decency. No person should be forced to move out of what they call home through no fault of their own. On the other hand any person living on someone else's land must learn the language and the culture. It is for the same reason I believe immigrants deserve help, accommodation, and local language courses rather than rejection.
You're talking to someone from .ml.
You should probably choose your battles on this one, the amount of people there that can't see double standards or hypocrisy is astounding.
Basically, read it as "you should kill yourself if you're not exactly where your ancestors lived 10000 years ago". That's what these people seem to think, they just don't want to say the quiet part out loud.
I live in a country where we have a very large amount of Russians, many of whom completely lack citizenship because they moved here during the soviet occupation so didn't get automatic Estonian citizenship after our independence, but also haven't gotten Estonian or Russian citizenship after the fact. This number has decreased over the years because most people have acquired some citizenship, but we still have tens of thousands with no state at all. I can't imagine simply deporting all of those people. In fact, we're now giving out citizenship to children of non-citizen parents who have lived in the country for at least 5 years, to avoid creating more stateless people. This is despite the fact that a lot of those people getting citizenship are also the descendants of settlers, with roots in a country hostile to our own. Those people's entire lives are here, who are we to uproot them just because we were here first? It's too late now.
Step 1: Steal something.
Step 2: Give it to your kid.
Step 3: The kid whines finders keepers, and that they shouldn't have to give it back.
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Funny, when indigenous peoples from the americas asked that question, the US settlers just killed them.
Are you really doing a "reverse ethnic cleansing" rn? Lord free me from redditors.
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Tbh if you're ever told to leave, this kind of mentality will probably be why.
Every Indigenous person I've ever met has been super nice and welcoming. They're not out for revenge like you seem to think they are. I obviously can't and shouldn't speak on their behalf, but just from my limited experience talking to Indigenous people where I live, they're perfectly willing to work with the people living here, Indigenous or not. Indigenous peoples have also been some of the first groups to advocate for the government to accept refugees, using the fact that it's their land as an argument for people from elsewhere to live here. Your strawman notion of the racist, exclusionary Indigenous person who seeks to do to white people what they did to them is just that, a strawman.
You're also working under the assumption that they will treat you worse than the current government treats you. News flash, even with white privilege, you're currently being treated like you don't have a right to the land. How much is your landlord charging you to live here? Do you have a right to a home under the current laws? No you don't. If you lose all your money, you will become homeless, and plenty of jurisdictions outright criminalize homelessness and will throw you in jail because of it.
I'm not saying it's okay or not okay to treat you like anything. I certainly don't want you to be treated badly. I'm saying it's not my place to say what Indigenous people want out of decolonization.
I admit I was being snarky in a lot of my replies because I was ticked off by your comments. You mentioned deportation and jail and I just said "yeah those are possibilities." Reading it back I can see how I should have put more nuance into this.
I should definitely have stressed this in my previous responses, but Indigenous people are naturally extremely diverse and there is no single agreed upon narrative of what decolonization will entail. There will be some Indigenous groups that only want to be left alone on their land, but there will be others that don't have a problem with anyone living on their land. You can see some of this diversity in the different Indigenous groups' views on immigration, but those views are likely different from the views they will adopt after decolonization. The notion that all the Indigenous groups will either unanimously let you stay or tell you to leave is not the correct way to think about it.
Also, Indigenous territories overlap and Indigenous people generally have more nuanced ideas of "territory" and "ownership" compared to European cultures and their strict borders for property and sovereignty. Go to native-land.ca and see for yourself. Indigenous peoples tend to focus more on mutual agreements and understanding between neighbors as to who uses what resources, agreements which are fluid and based on the needs of the people living there, as opposed to drawing lines on a map. Concepts like citizenship and deportation are based on the European framework of sovereignty, not Indigenous ones.
As to what all this entails for the settlers living here? I can't say. Everything in North America is built around colonialism and we settlers can't really imagine what it will be like for all of that to be removed with any degree of accuracy. But I highly doubt there will be large scale forced expulsions. I'd say it's more likely that the notions of property and land titles dissolve in favour of a more nuanced and community oriented approach to where people live. We will have to adopt this paradigm if we want to continue living here.
This hits the nail on the head. Settlers fear, above all, being treated anywhere near as badly as we've treated indigenous peoples, when they have been infinitely kinder. The last shall be first, that doesn't mean they will kill of us or deport all of us, but it means the decisions will be driven by indigenous people first and foremost.
It's telling of the settler mindset that they immediately assume decolonization entails being treated almost as horribly as settlers have treated indigenous peoples.
The last will be first. Landback and decolonization means putting the reigns into the hands of the indigenous people's hands, and letting go of the reigns, not just holding onto the reigns but giving the colonized people some of the reigns. The best settlers can hope for is to be treated kinder than they have treated the people whose land they stole. I myself was born in the US, and am still a settler here, just because I was born here does not absolve my role. It means I have a historic duty to help carry out decolonization and land back, from the back, not as a leading role.
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While I agree in general, there's also nuance to be had IMHO.
For example: Russian Empire colonizing Siberia was a bloody affair. Of course it was not anywhere near the atrocities committed in the new world, but still a lot of natives died due to localized warfare and disease. Do you think that when USSR formed, the Siberian peoples should have been given full sovereignty, as separate countries (not even part of USSR), and rule over themselves and the descendants of russian settlers that were left there; or was the actual solution of giving them autonomous republics within the RSFSR the better one? I lean on the latter. I think if a socialist revolution ever happens in the US, this is the way it would happen. Full jurisdiction and sovereignty for indigenous people in certain areas (they need to be much larger than current reservations, though), shared jurisdiction and sovereignty in other limited areas where descendants of settlers live. And, of course, land to the peasants, factories to the workers - I strongly suspect both casual and systemic racism will be much less of an issue once capitalism no longer burdens the working class.
The best thing you can do is just never center white people. 99.999% of the time that's the wrong way to frame your argument.
I fully understood what you were trying to say, but I can't say the responses you got are at all that surprising either.
are actively perpetuating colonization and genocide rather than simply getting an advantage from their ancestors
USAmericans are also doing this too. The overconsumption done by yankees would require multiple planet earths if everyone were allowed to consume as much as they do and the US government is guilty of exporting a capitalist system that causes climate change, not to mention the imperialism abroad. There is no functional difference between the US and Israel, just "Big Satan" vs. "Little Satan."
USAmericans are also doing this too. The overconsumption done by yankees would require multiple planet earths if everyone were allowed to consume as much as they do and the US government is guilty of exporting a capitalist system that causes climate change, not to mention the imperialism abroad.
I mentioned this as another thing that needs addressing in a timely manner.
I agree with your points entirely, it's just amusing to see the people who do disagree experience a tiny iota of the fear and despair that the indigenous peoples of America and beyond had to feel when their world was destroyed and stolen.
It is really telling that suddenly they fear for their lives once they think they will be victims of the same colonization that gave them privilege. They've internalized that this process only functions through mass slaughter and terror and start waxing poetic about "human nature"
Realistically and logistically speaking, if they were ever to retrieve their land back, the Native Americans would probably be MORE accepting of the idea to live amongst the working class that don't originate from their land rather than "evicting" the population, basic infrastructure (that's already replaced native tribes' land) would need maintenance, first of all.
The fact that it scares them that this highly unlikely scenario of reclaiming land then the Indigenous do whatever they want with it is very poetic. The fact that they've probably also imagined dramatically violent scenarios of this is also funny, funny strange.
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous' is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you're currently a part of.
Go back to where? I've never lived anywhere else. Land back does not imply ethnic cleansing, and when you say shit like this, you marry the concepts, doing massive damage to the movement.
While OP show north america in the 1800s they failed to supply the original British mandate area from the 1920s which gives a bit perspective to the next images. Also note that while the Jewish leadership accepted the UN partition plan it was rejected by the Arab/Palestinian over and over.
And it is not a meme.
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1) How does it provide any further perspective? "They actually don't deserve their land because they were colonized by the British"?
2) Why would you expect the Palestinians to accept a plan to give half of their land away to a violent colonial expansionist ideology. Should Poland have peacefully given half their land to Germany to avoid the invasion? Do you really think that would work anyway, or is it just an excuse to blame the victims for their own genocide?
Edit: Also, since then Palestine has called for the partition borders to be enforced, and Israel/their allies were the ones to deny it. Israel only ever supported the plan as a means to an end, further colonial expansion.
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Which Poland borders?
Over the years borders are dynamic. Most of the time they are changed via wars, violent conflicts and later treaties, some more stable than others. It happen all over the world throughout history. Unless there is a large physical border, you can look at almost any part of the world and see the huge amount of border changes over the years. Focusing on just two places like the above "meme" is hypocrisy.
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ah yes the basic 'but arabs rejected the partition!' argument?
is this similar to the terrible 'all palestinians are just arabs' angle so they should just just leave and give it to colonial settlers, just because?
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I get the point but these are two very different circumstances. Israelites and Palestinians are both native to the area. Their ancestors were Canaans and Philistines. The ownership of land is the result of western powers deciding how best to divide and conquer.
Native Americans are native to the area and Europeans/Americans were not.
The vast majority of "Israelis" are 100% European whose ancestors converted to Judaism.
There's a reason Israel bans DNA tests. They want to keep up the illusion that they're still descendants of the people the Torah talked about.
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I guess it depends what counts as "native"
"no one in my family tree has any memory of the place but we have a book that says we lived there thousands of years ago" is not what most people mean when they say "native"
"Indian reservations" are concentration camps
German labor camps were obviously concentration camps
and the strategic hamlet program were concentration camps
and ICE detention centers are concentration camps
either way it is always white people and their concentration camps
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putting them on the same level as ICE centers and concentration camps
You're right they were way fucking worse than that.
Have you actually been to a reservation? And not one of the "good ones" (disgusts me to even split hairs like this) but I mean like Pine Ridge. They are literally death camps in all but name.
A couple years ago one elder was burning his own clothes to keep warm and not freeze to death, another elder died in his home because his fireplace went out while he was sleeping. Drug abuse is rampant kids are killing each other over scraps, there was a shooting at a powwow last year in the middle of sun dance. There is almost no drinking water that isn't contaminated by the nearby bombing range and uranium mines.
The average life expectancy on Pine Ridge reservation TODAY is lower than it was in Gaza before the recent bombings started.
Oh and just to get there, the tribes around the black hills were sent on a forced death march through the badlands to settle in the least desirable land in the region.
This is where they were sent:
That is literally what Rapid City is built on.
Meanwhile the average household income at Pine Ridge (not individual income, whole household) is aboud 10-13k per year.
Thank you for this knowledge, I had no idea that reservations were this bad.
Would you happen to have any books/resource recommendations for where to learn more about the actual Native American history?
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Look up DNA testing in Israel, their govt doesn't want people testing and finding out their genetic history seems to include an awful lot of eastern Europe and not anything from the Middle East.
Even Ashkenazi Jews are from Turkey, not historic Palestine.
Christian crusades followed by Islam doing what Islam is designed to do.
Mass conversion of populations are not common. It's either conquest, oppression or rebellion.
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Then it's fine to fasten a noose around the natives' neck and very gradually tighten it?
What else could you be indicating by posting about this in this context? It's true that natives were nomadic people moving through the land, but how does that make it right for europeans to come in and claim land in a permanent fashion from across the globe?
Back then the ideological split inside american settlers was between actively killing all natives or putting them into reservations to left them naturally die off over time - as they were "evolutionary obsolete". In fact the bourgeois revolution of the american landlords was started because the British tried to limit american settler expansion and the expansion of slavery into Creek and Chickasaw lands.
The idea of not killing off natives was never present in any large capacity in the early united states.
Of course they are. They are both prime examples of settler colonialism in action.
People forget that Israel started as a British colony
Isn't it fair to say that Native Americans didn't consider land to be "owned" by anyone? What colonialism (and agriculture) did was assert control over land that was previously thought to be communal.
The tragedy of the commons is a capitalist invention. Shared resources have all been managed effectively until the point where they become considered private resources.
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The government doesn't just exist in a vacuum as you seem to think. It represents the interests of those who hold power in a particular society. In the US, it is the capital owning class, and these are the people who decide to cut your healthcare, to gouge you for education, and so on. The government simply exercises their will. Entire books have been written on the subject, yet here you are confidently attempting to debate a topic you clearly haven't spent even a few minutes thinking about.
Also, if a large central government was the problem, then we'd see the same kind of shit happening in China that's happening under capitalist regimes.
Wifi Sensing Sees Through Walls
Wifi Sensing Sees Through Walls
Comcast, US internet giant and service provider rolled out a “WiFi motion” feature to millions of customer routers. Once customers enable it, they’ll be able to detect motion in their homes and get notifications.Take Back Our Tech
And yes, reading through Xfinity’s privacy policy indicates they do monitor the WiFi motion data, and will share it with law enforcement or other third parties without notifying you.
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Not only is this a threat to your privacy but can impact your helath, as over-exposure to EMF has been linked to anxiety, fatigue, cancer, and many other bio-markers of poor health.
Oh brother this guy stinks!
The tech itself is interesting though. Triangulation of users indoors and outdoors is already possible
Times Square even uses it by offering free Wi-Fi. If a bunch of 50 year old white men connect to the wifi and are in the same spot, they'll put up a fishing ad or some other shi.
Found one similar to what I was thinking of:
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Fungal infections are getting harder to treat
Fungal infections are getting harder to treat
Fungal infections are getting harder to treat as they grow more resistant to available drugs, according to research published Wednesday in The Lancet MicrobeKaitlin Sullivan (NBC News)
Fungal infections are harder to treat because the US doctors did nothing but hand out antibiotics like they are candy, because it was an easy (no thinking involved) treatment that allowed them to spend 15 minutes or less with patience (cattle.)
However, antibiotics destroy good bacteria along with the bad, causing lots of skin conditions, fungal diseases, also immunity comes into play. Welcome to western medicine, they caused this issue.
The difference between real government and fake one illustrated by the response to floods in China and in Texas
The difference between real government and fake one illustrated by the response to floods in China and in Texas
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Trump announces 30% tariffs on European Union and Mexico
Trump announces 30% tariffs on European Union and Mexico
President Donald Trump made the announcement on his social media platform.Kelsey Walsh (ABC News)
For Netflix, the Srebrenica massacre is a joke - and Gaza is the sequel
Once upon a time, "Never again" was uttered with trembling sincerity. It was the mantra forged in the ashes of Auschwitz, a promise to generations unborn that the horrors of genocide would never be repeated. But today, in an age of digital spectacle and political impunity, "Never again" has become "Ever again". And we are witnessing a grotesque inversion of memory.
From the Warsaw Ghetto to Srebrenica to Gaza, the imagery of genocide - especially the suffering of children - has not only lost its sacredness, it has become fodder for mockery, comedy and the most cynical forms of entertainment. In a shocking display of insensitivity, the Dutch Netflix comedy Football Parents features a scene that compares the victims of the Srebrenica genocide to clumsy child football players, turning the Bosnian genocide into a punchline.
The Dutch state is currently being sued for failing to prevent genocide in Gaza. Meanwhile, a recent study revealed that nearly half a million Dutch citizens took part in the Holocaust. Rather than confront its violent past, Dutch media recycles it as "dark humour".
Incredibly, Football Parents mocked children's football skills by comparing them to genocide victims - a grotesque parallel to 12 April 1993, when 74 Bosnian children were killed by Serb shells while playing football on a school field in Srebrenica.
For Netflix, the Srebrenica massacre is a joke - and Gaza is the sequel
Three decades on, western states and media have turned 'Never again' into a punchline, mocking Bosnian genocide victims while enabling new atrocities against PalestiniansMiddle East Eye
Israeli settlers beat American to death in West Bank; US says it’s aware
Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank have beaten to death a United States citizen in his early 20s, the victim’s family members and rights groups have said.
“We are aware of reports of the death of a US citizen in the West Bank,” Reuters reported a State Department spokesperson as saying. The official declined to comment further “out of respect for the privacy of the family and loved ones” of the reported victim.
Israeli settlers beat American to death in West Bank; US says it’s aware
Rights advocates call on the Trump administration to ensure accountability for the killing of Sayfollah Musallet.Al Jazeera Staff (Al Jazeera)
Israeli settlers beat American to death in West Bank; US says it’s aware
Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank have beaten to death a United States citizen in his early 20s, the victim’s family members and rights groups have said.
“We are aware of reports of the death of a US citizen in the West Bank,” Reuters reported a State Department spokesperson as saying. The official declined to comment further “out of respect for the privacy of the family and loved ones” of the reported victim.
Israeli settlers beat American to death in West Bank; US says it’s aware
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I am begging reddit debate lords to actually learn what 'strawman' means, rather than treating the wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a list of magic incantations.
I am also begging them to just talk plainly: "You strawmanned me", rather than this insufferable nerd sarcasm bullshit of "sorry you strawman didn't work."
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I mean if, we're being real, it was also a whataboutism. "What about what the democrats did?"
Get better.
Get better.
Do you lot insist on writing like the most annoying losers on earth deliberately?
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You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!
You're on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!
I see you're now just going down the list of magic incantations you learned from Wikipedia.
Not to mention, doubling down on talking like the biggest reddit loser imaginable. How about you tell us about bacon and narwals next
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Having your bullshit called out clearly triggers you. Have you considered making informed, good faith arguments instead of trying to devalue the labels legitimately applied to your weak devices? Don't want your strawman called out? Don't use strawman arguments. Don't want your whataboutism called out? Don't use whataboutism. Don't like that I called out all your normal devices? Don't use them.
If you stop using those weak devices and actually engage in a good faith discussion I'm here. Keep using those weak devices and I will keep calling them out.
Danth's Law
You need to understand that these just aren't the devastating insults that you think they are outside of the tankie triad.
My original point was that the MAGAzis don't give a shit about a Palestinian American being killed because he isn't a real American (white Christian fascist bootlicker.)
Your insults have no power here.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't give a shit that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't a Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
If you want to have a conversation I'm here but you haven't made any good faith effort to contribute to the conversation for several comments.
I’m here but you haven’t made any good faith effort to contribute to the conversation for several comments.
Why would I try to converse in good faith with someone who responds by randomly copy pasting Latin from Wikipedia because reddit taught them that's what debate is, while consistently talking in the most smug, condescending and disingenuous tone imaginable?
You would participate in a good faith conversation because you have intelligent opinions on the topic of the conversion which is the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't believe that he is a "real" American because he isn't white, he isn't Christian, and he isn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
You instead used weak devices as a bad faith effort to distract from the subject of the conversation and thus to derail the it. My calling out those weak devices has rendered you completely ineffective. All you've done is whinge about my calling you out and called me names and hurled insults.
It didn't work. It isn't going to work. I'm still here and I'm still willing to talk about the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't think that he's a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation I remain willing, or just keep hissing and spitting, whatever.
You would participate in a good faith conversation because you have intelligent opinions
Why? When you're just going to respond with copy pasting reddit debate incantations, lying, and talking like an anime villain. Which is exactly what you continue to do.
or just keep hissing and spitting, whatever.
That's you, boo.
No one is going to read 21 levels deep into a three day old slapfight.
I know you are but what am I?
You just can't help yourself can you? One tired cliché after another.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
A conversing isn't a debate. It's an exchange of ideas with the goal of expanding understanding of each other's opinions.
Do you want to have a conversion or do you want to continue to use one tired cliché device after another and have me point them out? The problem isn't that I'm calling them out. The problem is that you're using them in the first place. Stop being so weak and ineffectual and actually have a conversation.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
Still here when you have something intelligent to say.
I did not insult you.
I pointed out that you were using logical fallacies to attempt to derail the conversation. If you don't use logical fallacies I will not point out that you are using logical fallacies.
You already confirmed your answer to my question is no, you don't have to keep doing it.
And you already tried the "STRAWMAN!" incantation.
Strawman
I've pointed out that you have used strawman arguments more than once because you've used strawman arguments more than once. If you stop using logical fallacies I'll stop pointing out that you're using logical fallacies. I'm not going to stop pointing out the fact that you're using logical fallacies because you don't lie the fact that I'm pointing out that you're using logical fallacies or because you keep whinging about it.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't think he was a real American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
Some Reddit refugee is downvote every one of my comments. How fucking pathetic.
Whataboutism is itself a thought-terminating cliché.
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Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.But what if "whataboutism" isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term "whataboutism" has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.
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Basically a straight up admition that they’re both meaningless though terminating cliches
Another straw man. You guys are on a roll.
What is cliché is resorting to strawman arguments and whataboutism/bothsidesism when your dogmatic incantations don't win the day. They are the refuge of the weak. Attempting to devalue the ideas is a transparent effort to reduce the impact of your weakness being labelled, It's the same as white supremacists loudly calling out Godwin's Law when they are rightly labelled as Nazis or Zionists labelling legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel antisematism. Mike Godwin himself said, "By all means, compare these assholes to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you."
Ad hominem. You just can't help yourself.
Have a good faith conversation. As long as you use these super weak devices I'm going to call them out. I don't care what names you call me or what insults you hurl.
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Can I point to where I said you said that explicitly? I can point to where I said you said it implicitly though. (emphasis mine)
You comment strongly implied that you thought Maple Engineer thought this was a MAGA-specific phenomenon.
You also more or less said it explicitly though, if you want to go down that route. I can't quote a specific part of your comment because your entire comment is based on this suggestion. (emphasis mine again)
You say that like MAGA are the only ones that don’t care about Israel killing Americans. Were you even aware that it happened under Biden?
Not an American, A Palestinian American. The Magazis don't give a shit.
Bold mine. Yes there is.
Oh look, you've suddenly flipped back to demanding explicit quotes, when previously you accepted implications.
Hypocrite.
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You comment strongly implied
Oooooh, so now you're willing to accept implied statements!
What happened to demanding explicit quotes only? Which implicit is exactly the opposite of.
And yes, there is the same strong implication in their comment
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Their original comment absolutely did not imply they thought that it was only MAGAheads
Yes it absolutely did. Stop being deliberately obtuse.
You cut off my sentence. Here's the full quote.
Their original comment absolutely did not imply they thought that it was only MAGAheads who were ok with Israel killing USAmericans, on the same level that you implied they thought that.
Whether or not there was an implication at all is subjective. I don't think that criticism of one party should be understood to be at the exclusion of another party, but whether or not that implication is there at all is up to you. I think making those sorts of inferences makes it very difficult to have any discussion about politics when criticising some group is meant as condoning another group; in that case any political statement would have to be very long to list all the groups it applies to.
But I didn't say that it wasn't implied at all; I said it wasn't implied at the same level. Your reply to the original comment would make no sense if you didn't believe that they only thought MAGA supporters were ok with Israel killing USAmericans. There's far more ambiguity in the original comment, and I don't believe it automatically lends itself to your interpretation (which was proven wrong by that commenter saying they don't believe such a thing), but in any case it is absolutely not the same level of implication as your comment.
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What To Do When You See ICE in Your Neighborhood
Out running errands and see a cluster of weirdos kitted out for war, milling about like they’re stuck in a Call of Duty matchmaking lobby? Grab some pics and vids to raise the alarm. Keep in mind that specificity is paramount when logging these sightings, both to increase efficacy and avoid panic. Fortunately, one of master’s own tools has proven itself an invaluable counterintelligence asset. Plucked straight from U.S. military field books, the acronym S.A.L.U.T.E. can help you gather the most pertinent details. It’s also the practice almost universally recommended by the groups I spoke to.
- Size: How many people and/or vehicles do you see?
- Activity: What, specifically, are they doing that’s suspicious?
- Location: What address, cross streets, or landmark are they at (the more specific the better)?
- Uniform: What are they wearing, whether it’s fatigues, nondescript civilian clothes, or something else entirely?
- Time: What date and time did you observe them?
- Equipment: What guns, weapons, or devices do they appear to be carrying?
**Thanks for taking such comprehensive notes. Now where do you send them? **
There’s no evidence the feds are conducting “how do you do, fellow antifa” honeypot busts. But anyone attempting to post alerts about the activities of federal agents would be wise to operate as if they were. The groups I spoke to remain concerned about infiltrators stymying their efforts. Even at the press conference, activists clocked and called out a suspected undercover among the crowd.
Unfortunately, there’s no one-size-fits-all approach for this element of activism. To safely discover and interact with the patchwork of anti-ICE activities around LA, I relied on trusted individuals from my personal network of journalists and activists, as well as community groups and organizers leading local efforts. But if you’re just getting started, the accounts mentioned in this article, any of the more than 65 groups that have joined LA’s Community Self Defense Coalition, or the Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights are solid sources of information. And if you’re ever unsure about an entity’s bona fides, sites like mutualaidhub.org can help determine if an outfit is legit or carpetbagging.
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[Project] GitHub - voidauth/voidauth: An Easy to Use and Self-Host Single Sign-On Provider 🐈⬛🔒
A new open-source Single Sign-On (SSO) provider designed to simplify user and access management.
Features:
- 🙋♂️ User Management
- 🌐 OpenID Connect (OIDC) Provider
- 🔀 Proxy ForwardAuth Domains
- 📧 User Registration and Invitations
- 🔑 Passkey Support
- 🔐 Secure Password Reset with Email Verification
- 🎨 Custom Branding Options
Screenshot of the login portal:
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My previous setup was with Authelia and lldap, and VoidAuth is heavily inspired by a combination of both. I think the advantages VoidAuth has are simple user management, supporting user registration/invitation, more branding customization, and a better end-user UI (imo).
There are other great selfhosted auth solutions such as Authelia and lldap, and also Authentik, Keycloak, pocket-id, and Rauthy. I would encourage anyone looking for a selfhosted auth solution to shop around!
GitHub - nosduco/nforwardauth: Simple and minimalist forward auth service intended for use with reverse proxies (Traefik, Caddy, nginx, etc)
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I think nforwardauth looks like a great project, you can always setup VoidAuth alongside and try it out!
Headphones of almost all types hurt my ears or fall off too easily to be comfortable.
And my new phone has better sound than my old phone and TV anyways. Yes, both of them ARE around 10 years old.
My old Xperia Z5 Compact was the only phone I've ever owned that had decent speakers. You could actually listen music with them without getting pissed off. It was small and had amazing audio capabilities and great camera, easily the best phone I've ever owned.
But listening music / watching videos in public with your phone speakers on is an abomination. It should be made illegal everywhere.
I agree that listening in public is a crime.
On a side note, if anyone here has heard some of the latest gen iPhones, they honestly sound dramatically better than the vast majority of Bluetooth speakers, especially when held sideways for stereo. At medium volume with my eyes closed, it sounds comparable to my MacBook speakers. I’m seriously shocked at whatever magic Apple is pulling off there.
Obviously neither compare to an audiophile setup, but they’re far above listenable.
I’ve not yet heard an Android compare personally, but I’d love to be proven wrong.
And then keeping the bottom end of their phone to the ear to understand what the other person is saying.
The stupidity of this is hard to grasp.
In my experience, this is often people who might not have access to a way to access headphones. Yeh its annoying, it doesnt ruin my day tho. Just go with it
last time I saw this, it was some older guy blasting alice in chains, which is what i was listening to anyway
Another help me choose a distro
Hi, as many others I am looking to switch to linux before microsoft kills win 10.
I read a lot of advice online for distros, but my main needs are not really discussed. I need a distro that runs well for game dev specifically unreal engine 5.4-6.
I am currently aiming to try mint, as it has been recommended to be stable and i already dabbled a little bit with Ubuntu on my laptop.
I am not afraid of some tech journey, but even though arch seems the coolest, with Wayland, kde, hyperland customization, i am not confident enough to use it for work. I heard it can completely crash your system if your a noob.
So in essence i need something stable that is relatively easy to use and has great ue5 and gaming perf.
Thanks in advance for all the help.
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Mint is a great choice, it is very stable, and it really holds your hand via the Software Center.
However, stable also means old: it does not support the latest hardware.
If you have hardware that released after (rough estimate) April 2024, consider something based on Fedora, such as Bazzite, instead. It comes with modern drivers and should support modern hardware much better.
You can do that on Bazzite. The only thing I would say is that Bazzite is an atomic fedora distro meaning that the core OS is immutable and everything lives on a layer above the base OS. This helps stability for the OS and make rolling back and repairs much easier. But sometimes installing apps, especially apps that interact with the base OS can be a bit of a pain. On top of that, atomic distros are less common, which means that if you are looking for help, it will be a little harder to find stuff online.
Overall, I like fedora. I have used basically all of the DEs, but tend to hover between KDE and Gnome. Fedora is a little more recent than Debian, but it isn’t a rolling release like Arch or OpenSUSE. This means you get some of the newer kernel features, but the updates are still staggered and released at intervals and tested. I find it to be very stable.
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I heard it can completely crash your system if your a noob.
You can crash anything if you try. Been there, done that.
Just go ahead and start using it. Just keep backups which you always do, regardless the O/S and situation.
(pro tip: TEST RESTORING THE BACKUPS)
Maybe make an extra backup before you try something and you'll live. You could also use a separate partition to store your files so you can re-install without touching your data. Make that partition size 'recognizable' (t.ex. the biggest by far and label it) so you won't mess up the partition selection when you re-install. And NO don't ask me how I know!
Yes Mint is a good choice for your migration. It has been put together in a way that makes it intuitive for a windows refugee. The menu layout has the "start" (mint) button bottom left with your apps in there.
The system apps are named obvious things like "software manager" and it has default apps installed to get you going.
Being derived from Ubuntu it is the best supported platform for commercial apps/games but with Ubuntu's weird choices (snap etc) tidied up.
It's the most recommended linux distro for beginners for a reason. It's a solid reliable well thought out platform
I think Fedora using either Gnome or KDE would be a great place for you to start. Ubuntu or Mint aren’t terrible choices either.
On the topic of Arch, there’s a Distro I use called EndeavourOS. It’s billed as an Arch based distro that’s geared towards the terminal, but unlike Arch it comes all of the basic software you might need right out of the box, and offers a long list of desktop environments (KDE, Gnome, and XFCE being the best choices on the list)
I use Hyprland on it, but Hyprland isnt advisable until you have some solid experience with a different desktop. Because it is geared towards the terminal, it expects you to install and update your software from the terminal. Not a difficult task, but it might not be ideal when you’re just getting started.
I’ve been running it for a long time without issue. But how “stable” it is depends on how much you read the documentation and developer announcements, and how much you fiddle with things you don’t understand. That can be true in mint or Ubuntu as well, none of them prevent you from breaking things.
Recently endeavour changed the way they deal with some firmware related packages, this would cause an error when updating, causing a handful of packages to not be upgraded. A quick DuckDuckGo search of the error message took me straight to a forum post by the devs explaining that you have to uninstall one of the related packages, and run the update again. If you didn’t think to look you’d probably panic and think your system was broken. Just an example of how the operating system itself doesn’t hold your hand. It’s up to you whether that’s acceptable or not.
On the topic of stability, save your important files on a separate drive. It’s been said elsewhere in the thread but bears repeating. As long as your files are stored in a separate drive, if you run into issues you aren’t able to fix, you can just wipe and reinstall, it maybe takes 20 minutes depending on your hardware, and while you’re experimenting and learning, it wouldn’t be uncommon for you to break some things.
Operating systems are rarely unstable. Users are the most common source of instability.
Recently endeavour changed the way they deal with some firmware related packages
Actually, that was Arch and as Endeavour uses the Arch repositories + the AUR, and their own repository for their additions, they were naturally affected.
Just have to disable bitlocker... Because that's how my last mint experience ended up xD
If Mint works for you, just stick with it. No need to try a different distribution to compare. You'll know when you need it.
I would only go to Fedora if you need it. For example newer drivers (kernel, mesa). Don't go change the kernel and/or mesa on a distribution, probably better to switch at that point. Or if you need KDE or GNOME for some reason. Wayland is disabled in Mint by default, but can be enabled. It's been over a year IIRC since they added experimental Wayland support so it may be fine by now.
Differences between Linux distributions are exaggerated.
but my main needs are not really discussed
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So in essence i need something stable that is relatively easy to use and has great ue5 and gaming perf.
That is probably the most common set of requirements people ask for. In reality, with a few exceptions, there is really not that much difference between distros given those requirements. UE5 is newer so the biggest change there would be that you might find distros that ship newer versions of stuff might run it slightly better then distros that ship older software. In practice I think it has been out for long enough that you wont see much difference unless you want to play something new on the day of release (but these days those are all buggy messes anyway... not sure your choice of distro will make as big a difference as waiting a few weeks/months for the initial patches to rollout).
Remember, all distros are essentially based off the same software, the biggest difference being what desktop environment they ship with and what versions of software there ship (and how how long they stay on that version). By far the biggest difference you will see if what desktop environment they use and all distros essentially package the same set of desktop environments - each might come with different ones by default but they typically contain all the popular ones in their repos.
i need something stable... great gaming perf
In particular these two points. Do you know what you are asking for here? These are the most bland and wishy washy requirements. Everyone wants something stable and fast, never seen anyone ask for something that crashes all the time and is slow. But worst these tend to be on the opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of requirements, if you optimize for one you tend to trade off the other.
Even stability has multiple meanings. In terms of crash stability you will find all distros to be about the same. No one distro wants to ship buggy crashy software. But at times they do. And it is really just the luck of the draw as to when this might happen to you based on what software you use, how you configure your system and what hardware you have. Some combinations just don't work for some weird reason and you wont know until you hit it. This is why you hear some people claim one distro is a buggy mess while some other one is rock solid while someone else argues the exact opposite. All main stream distros are just as good as any other in terms of this and you are just unlucky if you ever do run into that type of issue. The biggest problems in this regard tends to be when a new major version of something comes out - but like with gaming it can be beneficial to wait a few months for any issues to be patched before jumping to the latest big distro version.
The other side of stability is API stability - or the lack of things changing over time as new versions of stuff get released. There are two main types of distros in this regard, point release distros which freeze major versions of packages between their major releases so you wont get any new features during the release cycle that version of the distro. Then you have to deal with all the breaking changes from newer versions of software once every so often when a new distro version comes out. Vs rolling release distros that upgrade major versions constantly and so generally follow a lot closer to the latest versions of things than point release distros. Really the big trade off here is not if you encounter breaking changes.
Any distro will need to deal with them at some point, the choice is how often you deal with them. You can wait years on the same version of a point release distro and only need to deal with all the breaking changes once every few years, or once every 6 months. Or you can deal with things as they come out with a rolling release distro. But while it might sound nice to only deal with it every few years it also means you need to deal with all the changes at once. Which can be much more disruptive when you do decide to. Quite often I find the slower upgrading distros are better off with just a full reinstall on the latest version than upgrading from one to the next. Personally I prefer dealing with small things frequently as they tend to be easier to fix and less disruptive over longer periods of time. When I was running kubuntu I used to end up reinstalling it ever 6 months as the upgrades never worked for me (though this was a long time ago), but my oldest arch install lasted probably probably 5-10 years or so.
And at the same time how frequently you get the latest versions of things means you get any performance optimizations and support for newer hardware or newer games as well. But also any bugs or regressions. It is a double edged sword. Which is why stability and performance tend to be a leaver you can tune between rather than two separate things to can achieve. Just like overclocking, the more performance you can get out of a system tends to result in the system becoming less stable overall. Everyone wants the most stable and fastest system, but in reality everyone has a different limit on how much or what types of stability they are willing to give up on to achieve different levels of performance.
But out the box, you will find most distros to be very much within a couple of % of each other and which is fastest will vary depending on which games you want to play and what hardware you have. But they all tend to have quite a bit of head room to optimizes for specific use cases as they all are optimizing for the general use case which is typically just trading off performance in one thing for another. But again, we are talking about tiny difference overall.
I am not afraid of some tech journey, but even though arch seems the coolest, with Wayland, kde, hyperland customization, i am not confident enough to use it for work.
The only way you will gain confidence in it is to try it out. But also, most distros use wayland these days and it is more up to the desktop environment you use rather than the distro you use. hyperland is a wayland compositor and is in the repos of most if not all major distros. You should be able to install it on anything really. You can replace the desktop environment or install multiple ones side by side if you want to on just about any distro. The biggest difference between them is which ones they come with by default. But really if you are looking for a highly customized experience then Arch tends to be the way to do as you have less extra fluff you have to remove or work around when getting the system exactly as you want it. The hardest part of Arch is installing it the first time. Really after that it is not any harder to use or maintain. IMO it is easier to maintain as you have a much better understanding of how you set up your system as you are the one that set it up to start with.
I heard it can completely crash your system if your a noob.
You can break any distro if you mess with things. The only big difference is Arch encourages/requires more messing around at the start then other distros. And IMO is easier to fix if you do mess things up - you can always just boot a live USB and reinstall broken packages or reconfigure things without needing a full reinstall again. You can basically follow the install guides again for the bits that are broken to fix just about anything. And that is only if you break something critical in booting. In my early days I broke (requiring a full reinstall) way more ubuntu installs then I have ever broken my Arch ones later on. It is really just about how much you want to tinker with things and how much you know about what you are tinkering with as to if they will break or not rather then what base distro you use.
And you can always try the install process and play around with different distros in a VM to get a feel for them and learn what they are like. So don't be afraid to try out various different ones and find the one you like the most. Your choice is never set in stone either. Just ensure you have good backups of everything you care about and the worst that will happen is you need to reinstall and restore your backups every once in a while.
Everyone overthinks it, and you are too.
Mint is great. It may not work for you if you have super new hardware.
Fedora is great. It’s mint but with newer stuff.
Arch is great. Bleeding edge. But it’s not “set it and forget it”.
Linux is great. There’s a million other options. Any of them work if they work for you. Find someone bashing Ubuntu - they would HAPPILY choose Ubuntu over win11.
And you have to realize the “what version I’m on dependency hell” thing is a thing of the past for the most part. Flatpaks just about solve this problem. You’ve got containers and vms too. Switching to another distro ain’t hard either as a nuclear option.
Just install mint or fedora like everyone says. Your requirements aren’t special, and both options are great.
Find someone bashing Ubuntu - they would HAPPILY choose Ubuntu over win11.
This is both : funny and true (more true than funny though ;) )
I read a lot of advice online for distros, but my main needs are not really discussed.
You're not special and Linux distros aren't that specialized. They differ in packaging, upgrade philosophy, etc. There is no Linux distro that can't do the things others do.
You dabbled with Ubuntu. Stick with it, you'll be fine. Unless you really want mint, then go for it you'll be fine.
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If you're new to Linux, you won't stay with the distro anyone recommends for more than a month. It's a truism.
I'm not you. You're not me.
That said. Ubuntu isn't the Ubuntu of old. The real selling point is the zfs, but you have all the other NIH stuff like snap etc. I'm not a zfs fan but I appreciate that it's got a huge fan base.
One thing to say is that you don't have to have a one and only. I have at least two distros I use daily for workstation stuff. I use Fedora for typing and Arch for backups, debugging, rescue, and other fiddling about stuff (because Fedora gets in the way sometimes). Every distro has the same set of commands.
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Coming from Windows, OK with a bit of tech journey and into gaming here is my take in no order of preference.
1) TuxedoOS if you are inclined to Debian/Ubuntu side. Slow updates but it has latest KDE and very stable in my experience.
2) If you just want set and forget (minimal updates) Linux Mint (Ubuntus fall here too) Now, it is not very appealing aesthetics.
3) Fedora. Probably the best overall, but if you have beef against IBM/Red Hat, ditch it, its superiority is very marginal. Gamers like the spin Nobara, some performance increase but minimal.
4) Arch is not that unstable as portrayed, but one time in a critical time is bad enough, even if very rarely occurs. You assess your risk. The popular baby today is Arch's CachyOS due to catering to gamers.
5) OpenSUSE's Tumbleweed is maintained quite good and very close to Fedora in being perfect overall, but fewer people behind and less support. I would only go with it if you have a specific reason why (German, Yast tools, rolling release but stable,...)
At the end, like many people say, it is likely you will hop... until one day you find that distro hoping is pointless and that all are actually very close to each other and could easily coexist with any of them all. The difficult and uncompromising aspect usually is with the desktop environment like KDE Plasma, Gnome, Cinnamon...
arch seems the coolest, with Wayland, kde, hyperland customization
While I have no experience with Unreal Engine, so I can't give an informed recommendation, I just figured I'd point out that you can do this with every distro
I don't recommend Bazzite. I'm far from an expert (I've only used Mint), but I see a lot of people recommending Bazzite. You should definitely test on Bazzite, but it's immutable and so that'll probably cause a lot of issues. I'd recommend strongly against Bazzite for gamedev.
I think basically any major distro will work (Ubuntu, Mint, OpenSUSE, Arch). ~~You'll probably need to run the software in bottles, so if it supports bottles then it should work for your needs~~. Only go with Arch if you're willing to sign up for some extra work.
Be sure to make backups. That way it won't matter if you brick your OS.
EDIT: It supports Linux, I was on the wrong page. ~~It explicitly supports Red Hat (Fedora) and Rocky Linux, OpenSUSE is similar to them, so go with one of those three I guess.~~
EDIT 2: They recommend Ubuntu. Test on Ubuntu and Rocky. I'd go with Rocky just because I hate Ubuntu (on an emotional level, I don't think they're evil or anything).
You’ll probably need to run the software in bottles
nope, unreal engine 5 has a native linux version
Oh I see, when you go straight to the Epic Games Store page it doesn't have a download for Linux and doesn't even say Linux is supported.
But that link says Red Hat Linux 8 or Rocky Linux 8, so OP should probably use Fedora or Rocky. Rocky's a bit of a no-name though so forum support might be lacking.
when a particular distro is recommended, almost every time it just means "this is what we have actually tested it on" so as long as your distro has the correct packages/versions available there is a very good chance it will work even when not recommended
I am using bazzite for gamedev and it is AWESOME.
It is immutable but ships with distrobox and boxbuddy, which lets you easily create linux containers with mutable systems (i.e. I am currently developing on a fedora container with Qt Creator, for example) and you can install your packages in that terminal.
No chances of breaking your main OS.
I set up my instance like follows:
Boxbuddy -> New distrobox container -> Fedora -> Give it a name.
Wait for the installation (should be about 300MB IIRC).
In the start menu you will now be able to run your instance's terminal (search for your instance name).
sudo dnf install qt-creator
Back in boxbuddy, in my instance I selected "show installed gui applications", selected Qt Creator -> Add to applications menu.
Qt Creator then shows up in the start menu (search for either Qt Creator, or your instance name).
It will run in the container, but has full access to your home directory for development.
I could then install all my other required packages from the same terminal that I installed qt-creator from.
Easy peasy.
Disclaimer: Typing from my phone. The instructions may not be exactly like I said, but those are the steps.
No terminal magic is needed in Bazzite to make this work.
For the new people on Linux, think of my impression playing with the different OS;
Similarities between Windows 10 and macOS is around 15%.
Similarities between Windows 10 and Linux Mint is around 20%.
Similarities between Linux Mint and Ubuntu is around 95%.
Similarities between Linux Mint and Fedora\OpenSUSE is around 90%.
Similarities between Linux Mint and Arch\CachyOS\Manjaro is around 85%.
And with Flatpaks/Snaps I would even now narrow the difference in the Linus OS as 95, 92 and 90% similarity. For what linux cannot do for you, unless it needs high processing or gaming anticheats, a Virtual Machine with Windows will just cover you without any problem.
What makes look different in Linux is the desktop environment (KDE, Gnome, Cinnamon...), no much the distro per se.
Find the distro environment you like after playing 20min with it, and choose the Linux flavor you are ideologically/persuaded with the most... don't worry about the rest.
I tried UE5 on Debian Testing and it seemed to work fine.
If it works there, it’ll probably work on almost anything.
Personally, I dislike Ubuntu, but if it’s been working for you, you shouldn’t have problems.
I really like Debian and think it’s not too difficult, but it isn’t for everyone and might not be your thing.
EDIT: Looking at the website for UE5, almost any distro released in the past 3 years should do the trick so long as the distro works on your hardware.
I want to recommend pop OS but it would be wise to switch to it after there is 24.04 (or later release)
In my personal experience pop os has been absolute rock solid especially with flatpaks
However latest stable is quite old (they are working on new desktop environment before upgrade).
It's rare that a software compatibility is distribution specific but just in case for games you can verify with ProtonDB and for the rest WineHQ AppDB. That's assuming there is no native support which in this case according to a quick DuckDuckGo search returns linuxvox.com/blog/unreal-engin… indicating that it seems fine.
So... I'd suggest you pick whatever distribution you heard most about, if you are unsure I'd advise on Debian (Stable) but honestly I don't think it matters much. There might be slight difference in hardware support and performances but assuming you use mainstream hardware it hopefully should have minimal impact.
Regardless of what you choose, document the process and as long as you learn while doing it, you're going forward!
If you are in rush... maybe postpone the transition to after that project or do it with a 2nd computer.
Unreal Engine on Linux: A Comprehensive Guide
Unreal Engine is a powerful and widely - used game engine developed by Epic Games. While it is well - known for its support on Windows and macOS, the Linux version of Unreal Engine also offers significant advantages.LinuxVox.com
Customization is really cool and i already got it to look modern with some theme icon combinations.
Made a 🥭 in gimp as my home icon.
Ran into very little issues so far.
Except for one, where suspend instantly wakes up the pc and is therefore unusable. But i will figure that out another day.
Definitely update us on UE, I've haven't explored the EU or Unity on Linux, and it would be nice to know if they work, because "you can use Godot" doesn't work for everyone.
Except for one, where suspend instantly wakes up the pc and is therefore unusable. But i will figure that out another day.
Is this just an automatic suspend after inactivity? Because if so, I think it the inactivity timeout can be disabled in the settings menu, as a workaround until you can figure it out.
After an update it needed new driver update aswell.
Still no IDE to use C++ currently trying Rider.
Still no IDE to use C++ currently trying Rider.
I recommend: (vs)code, clion (free for noncommercial use), qtcreator
I’m looking at suse tumbleweed for an upcoming build. Ubuntu is getting obnoxious, mint is ugly and way behind on Wayland support and fedora I can’t really trust at this point as it’s a community version of a corporate American product. Like I could ignore the corporate stink before but -gestures broadly- not in this climate.
I liked arch but now that bcacheFS is getting yanked out of the kernel I don’t really have a reason to manually do so much myself anymore.
Yes, its really good, and every time somebody say "Linux needs ____ to make its use easy for new comers". My answer is typically uhm, openSUSE already has it.
That can be:
- OneClick installs
- GUI package management
- GUI service and system settings
- auto cleaning of btrfs
HiddenLayer555
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •Not having to use JS is below all of those.
I hate how that's the language everything is slowly converging to. Even if you don't work on websites, you always have this fear in the back of your mind that one day your project will be infected.
It's not even easy like people claim it is. I find JS significantly more difficult than Java because there are way more things that can go wrong and troubleshooting is way more frustrating. Just because the app will launch even with errors in the code does not make it easier in the long run. Compile time errors are good actually.
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in reply to HiddenLayer555 • • •jUzzo6 [none/use name]
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • • •Worry not, soon you wouldn’t have to use anything as your job would be gone.
Also, are programmers as good in identifying root causes of misery as Luddites were? Hint: it wasn’t machines, it was capitalism.
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