proton pass vs simplelogin - aliases
I'm trying to migrate off gmail and apple services and ended up getting a domain and going to proton and using simplelogin for making aliases. But now I'm looking at proton pass, which comes free with my plan and lets me create aliases and wondering why I did that.
Ideally, I want nobody to have my main email address. everything gets an alias and dumps into the main. if the main address is found out, I just kill it and get another and point all the aliases to that. if an alias gets spammy or sold off to obnoxious marketing boobs, I kill the alias and create a new one.
I got started with migrating a few things over today into the aliases I had on my domain with simplelogin. I started to wonder what would happen if I replied to any of these and unlike apple hide-my-mail, it looks like these expose my actual address, unless I go through the trouble of going to simplelogin and getting an reverse alias link through them, which is an annoying pain in the ass. looking to see if there was any integration like apple's icloud had, I find proton pass is included in my mail plus plan and lets me do what simplelogin already was doing, complete with my domain being in the alias address!
So my question is why did I set up two seperate services for this? can I reply to incoming emails from the aliases created in proton pass without them revealing my address?
I have needed to get away from google for a while and am finally getting off my ass to do it, but apple hide my email was so simple to use whereas proton seems to have these weird oversights.
I have the Proton Unlimited plan so I'm using all their services. I create a new email alias through Proton Pass, which uses SimpleLogin, for every site I sign up for. If I receive an email through the alias in my Proton Mail inbox, and I reply to it, it goes through the alias and doesn't expose my true email address.
All very easy to setup and do.
So my question is why did I set up two seperate services for this?
Unfortunate side effect of buying someone else's product instead of just making your own.
can I reply to incoming emails from the aliases created in proton pass without them revealing my address?
Yes. It's called a relay for a reason. When you receive an email it will come from a relay address, not the actual sender. You reply to that relay address and then the other party receives your relay address (alias).
Check out DuckDuckGo, they also have an email alias forwarding system like SimpleLogin. I have a different email address/alias for each account that I have and they all end up in my Proton inbox.
Also, you’re able to reply and send email with the DuckDuckGo address from Proton mail.
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Created a Post/Group about how to De-Google. The details about my set-up is also there. Hope it helps:
I thought OP wanted to de-google. I use DuckDuckGo because of their duck player; it opens YouTube on a separate window without all the extra stuff you don’t want (just the video you wanted to see). I guess OP can use PeerTube?
I’m quite happy with my Proton Unlimited but it’s not for everyone.
And yeah, I’m a browser hopper.
Yes, you can have multiple duck addresses at the same time. There’s a personal and private duck address.
Composing email:
duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help…
About duck addresses:
duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help…
I also used SimpleLogin and loved it until I subscribed to the Proton products. Like you, I haven’t needed to use SimpleLogin because of Proton Pass. Haven’t used iCloud since 2021 and have no regrets.
Can I create multiple custom Duck Addresses or Email Protection accounts? - DuckDuckGo Help Pages
You can only have one Duck Address enabled per browser, and only one associated with any given forwarding address.DuckDuckGo
Canonical Plans for a Fully Functional Desktop Session on RISC-V with Ubuntu 25.10
Canonical Plans for a Fully Functional Desktop Session on RISC-V with Ubuntu 25.10 - 9to5Linux
With the upcoming Ubuntu 25.10 release, Canonical plans to achieve a fully functional desktop session on the RISC-V architecture.Marius Nestor (9to5Linux)
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Exactly. The article says that 90% of hardware doesn't run on it, but in reality, 100% of hardware doesn't run on it. Only Qemu supports it, which is an emulator (and very slow to emulate RiscV in my experience -- latest version we tried with my husband on a very fast PC).
The Orange Pi RV2 was the perfect introductory Risc-V SBC, everyone is going gaga for it, for being a good middle of the road solution for those who want to try Risc-V, and yet, Ubuntu won't support it (and even the current implementation is done by the Chinese, not by Canonical, so I wouldn't touch it).
So I'm not sure what they're thinking. My own conspiracy theory is that EITHER Canonical, OR Raspberry Pi (which are close geographically), are preparing RV23 hardware, so they want to undercut the competition that way.
Nothing else makes sense in that decision.
When compatible hardware is available, it's expected that having packages built for RVA23 will have a big impact on performance. You can already see a big part of that with the vector (V) extension: running programs built without it is akin to using x86 programs without SSE or AVX. RVA23 is the first RVA profile that considers V mandatory rather than optional.
You might see a similar performance impact if you target something like RVA22+V instead of RVA23, but as far as I know the only hardware systems that'd benefit from that are the Spacemit ones (OPi RV2, BPI-F3, Jupiter) while that'd still leave behind VisionFive 2, Pioneer, P550/Megrez, and even an upcoming processor UltraRISC announced recently. The profiles aren't exactly intended to be used for those kinds of fine-tuned combinations and it's possible some of the other RVA23 extensions (Zvbb, Zicond, etc.) might have a substantial impact too.
Hardware vendors want to showcase their system having the best performance it can, so I expect Ubuntu's aim is to have RVA23 builds ready before RVA23 hardware so that they'll be the distro of choice for future hardware, even if that means abandoning all existing RISC-V users. imo it would've been better to maintain separate builds for RV64GC and RVA23 but I guess they just don't care enough about existing RISC-V users to maintain two builds.
This seems to be positioning Ubuntu as a data center OS. There are several RVA23 chips due out but they are all for the data center (tenstorrent, Alibaba, ventana, etc).
There is the SiFive P870 but I do not think anybody has licensed that so it may never get made.
I have also heard rumours of Expressif chips but I do not know the details.
If you like working in slow motion, yes, sure.
Source : I have a Banana-Pi SBC banana-pi.org/en/banana-pi-sbc… and... it works, running Linux proper, with a desktop environment, which is in itself pretty cool IMHO but damn, you have to be patient. That being said "just" already being at that stage on economically affordable hardware is amazing. We are probably not far, say few years at most, with usable RISC-V chips for mundane tasks, e.g. text authoring, coding, Web browsing, but don't expect compilation of a browser, Blender, or gaming on this for few more years. IMHO it will go fast because it's catching up so the path is rather well laid down, which is much harder than innovating and pushing the envelope.
Banana Pi BPI-F3 with SpacemiT K1 8 core RISC-V chip,4G RAM and 16G eMMC-Banana Pi open source hardware community,Single board computer, Router,IoT,STEM education
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I guess it depends what you mean by "chip production".
AFAICT mostly via Chip War (2022) and reading a bit on the topic there are few bottlenecks, e.g chip design IP like ARM (UK) or lithography machines like ASML (NL) or high efficiency chip production like TSMC (Taiwan) but overall the grip from the US is mostly on democratization and scale with AMD, NVIDIA, Broadcom or even Intel, namely making a LOT of chips, not necessarily high end (some are) or mobile (also some), for a relatively low price. What I mean is that China is already claiming that they are producing about on-par IPS with e.g. Loongson.
So yes there are for sure incumbents based in the US that do not want RISCV and overall open architectures to make significant progress but is it fair to call them "the US" I'm not sure. Are they heavily leaning on US lawmakers to get their positions strengthened? Maybe. Maybe they do not yet do so simply because they don't believe it's a threat yet, nor it might be ever be.
I believe that in chip production you can lock production via innovation but also, like in other sectors, solely with the supply chain. ASML is powerful because they basically own their markets but also because who would contract with newcomers versus a very well established company that can provide all the insurances imaginable that they will indeed deliver on time a specific amount? Why risk it when you are already contracting with the leader?
Sure there is a potential innovator dilemma but what could prevent e.g. NVIDIA or Intel to switch to RISC-V if somehow they can dominate there too thanks to both their existing expertise but also supply chain stronghold?
Risc v is an instruction set architecture not a chip design, the actual hardware implementation of any given risc v processor won't necessarily be open source and available to all, it's just a guarantee that if the spec is implemented then code compiled for risc v will run on a RISC V processor.
China has had access to x86 for years, they've not been able to implement a chip on par with current gen AMD or Intel chips.
US sanctions massively setback RISC-V.
We would have had the Milk-V OASIS last year , something better by now, and the answer to “as good as ARM” would be yes.
But Sophgo, the company making the SoC was accused of helping Huawei get access to restricted technology. So TSMC refused to make their chips. And the Milk-V OASIS was cancelled.
Massive blow to RISC-V.
New Caledonia to be declared a state in ‘historic’ agreement – but will remain French
France has announced a “historic” accord with New Caledonia in which the overseas territory, rocked by deadly separatist violence last year, would remain French but be declared a new state.
“A State of New Caledonia within the Republic: it’s a bet on trust,” the French president, Emmanuel Macron, posted on X on Saturday, hailing a “historic” agreement.
Receiving the signatories later, the president said that “after two agreements and three referendums, New Caledonia, through what you have signed, is opening a new chapter in its future in a peaceful relationship with France”.
Macron had called for talks to break a deadlock between forces loyal to France and those wanting independence. New Caledonian elected officials, as well as political, economic and civil society leaders, gathered near Paris to hammer out a constitutional framework for the territory.
After 10 days of talks, the parties agreed that a “State of New Caledonia” should be created.
Manuel Valls, the minister for overseas territories, called it an “intelligent compromise” that maintains links between France and New Caledonia, but with more sovereignty for the Pacific island.
The priority now is New Caledonia’s economic recovery.
Last year’s violence, which claimed the lives of 14 people, is estimated to have cost the territory 2bn euros ($2.3 bn), shaving 10% off its gross domestic product, he said.
The French prime minister, Francois Bayrou, said Saturday’s deal – which still requires parliamentary and referendum approval – was of “historic dimensions”.
Home to about 270,000 people and located nearly 17,000km (10,600 miles) from Paris, New Caledonia is one of several overseas territories that remain an integral part of France.
It has been ruled from Paris since the 1800s, but many indigenous Kanaks still resent France’s power over their islands and want fuller autonomy or independence.
Unrest broke out in May 2024 after Paris planned to give voting rights to thousands of non-indigenous long-term residents. Kanaks feared this would leave them in a permanent minority, crushing their chances of winning independence.
As part of the agreement, New Caledonia residents will in future only be allowed to vote after having lived 10 years on the archipelago.
The last independence referendum in New Caledonia was held in 2021, and was boycotted by pro-independence groups over the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic on the Kanak population.
It was the latest of three since 2018, all of which rejected New Caledonian independence. Since the 2021 referendum however, the political situation in the archipelago has been deadlocked.
Macron declared in early June he wanted a “new project” for New Caledonia.
The 13-page agreement announced on Saturday calls for a New Caledonian nationality, and the possibility for residents there to combine that status with French nationality.
Under the deal, a “State of New Caledonia” would be enshrined in France’s constitution, and other countries could recognise such a state.
The deal also calls for an economic and financial recovery pact that would include a renewal of the territory’s nickel processing capabilities.
Both chambers of France’s parliament are to meet in the fourth quarter of this year to vote on approving the deal, which is then to be submitted to New Caledonians in a referendum in 2026.
New Caledonia to be declared a state in ‘historic’ agreement – but will remain French
Emmanuel Macron hails ‘new chapter’ for New Caledonia as politicians agree on statehood after 10 days of talksGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
What do you prefer: icon view or detailed list view?
Most file managers I've encountered default to icon view. One of the first things I do is set the default to detailed list view. Might be a preference for seeing names and dates over many identical folder icons, or just an old habit from using Windows. But I'd be curious to hear about the benefits of icon view and why it's usually the default in Linux GUI file managers.
What does everyone else use and any reasons to prefer one over the other?
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Terminal.
All jokes aside, its personal preference. If you're working in a dense file tree, you probably need the info that details view gives you. Icon view really only matter for media.
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, to see the most recently modified files last (i.e. above my prompt).
ls -shit
which is (iirc, guessing from memory): block size, human readable sizes, inodes, sort by time.
ranger, a terminal file browser, which is obviously a list
if i need a gui file browser, i use pcmanfm with normal grid view
I have it on grid view :3.. just cause it can fit a lot more files into the same screen space
In list view I have to scroll to see all the files in my home folder, and in grid view it only takes like half of the available space, if I have the app maximized
I mostly prefer Detail view, but
I enable Icon view in Videos, Photos, and Music folders so I can see previews.
I’m guessing most file managers have similar behavior, but on XFCE Thunar, I’m able to set detail as the default but have it remembery choice per folder.
I use Krusader on Linux which I don't think has icon view.
When I have to use something else (eg Windows Explorer at work), obviously I prefer detailed list view. I like seeing things like the last modified date.
I think it heavily depends on the files one has to browes the most. I deal with text files all the time, so i dont need an icon to jump in my face telling me, that its a text file.
The media-, design people I know love the previews that icons give them, because its much easier to spot the image file, they are looking for while scanning through a directory
When I am not on the terminal, I use list/detail view all the time. In the details most of the time only last modification date is relevant to me. I always make the list icons one step smaller as the default and sort directories before files in Nautilus.
I don't need thumbnails. When I need to see pictures, I open them with the now new image viewer in Gnome and use the arrow keys to go through, if I am unsure what I am searching for. I most cases I go by file name.
The last time I found icon view useful was in Mac OS 9. There were three main characteristics that made it useful that no current systems have AFAIK:
- The icon grid was tight (32 pixels) and you could either snap items to that grid or place them freely.
- Window sizes and places were directly associated with folders. (There was no "browser-style" single-window mode.)
- File names used dynamic spacing. Longer names would occupy multiple grid spaces as needed.
These factors meant that every folder had a consistent and potentially unique size, placment, and layout.
OS X took the Finder and either ruined or neglected everything good about it. Windows explorer has always been garbage. Never found a Linux file manager with a compelling icon view either (though to be fair, I've never looked all that hard). The lack of system-level metadata for layout kind of mandates an abstraction between a directory and its display.
consistent and potentially unique
What do you mean by that? Aren't those opposites? That is, if something is unique then it's being inconsistent.
I mean that an individual folder will always look the same (consistent), and also look distinctly different from any other folder (unique) if that's how you arranged it. So you could identify a folder instantly.
Everything in list view looks the same at a glance, and most file managers don't retain a folder window's size and placement. Modern macOS kiiiind of does but you have to fight it if you don't want a single-window browsing UI.
Dolphin filemanager from KDE. Nowadays I default to "compact" view without "preview" enabled. This is similar to "Icon" view, but the icons are small. Lot of files scrolls horizontal instead vertical.
- filenames in compact mode can be longer in one line, which is kind of similar to the look as "details" view, but are all displayed in a multiple rows instead one row
- preview disabled, because this is extremely fast, as I have ton of files that do not even have a preview image
That's my default. Occasionally I enable preview image and switch to bigger "icon" view when I look into images or videos. Or sometimes I enable "details" view when needed. In normal usage I don't need the details anyway.
Depends what I am doing, but I often like "orthodox" two-pane file managers better, with details.
So my preference list is roughly:
- Command Line
- Krusader
- Thunar
- Mv2 will be despreciated sooner or later for all browsers, same as Mv1 in 2013. What is changing is the handling of cookies in Mv3 in all webpages which use Google and other ad company APIs (Alphabet, googleanalytics, google-tagmanager, Amazon and others....), so Mv2 Extensions would become ineffective, this is only relevant for the user in case of adblockers in pages with ads, Lemmy and other from the Fediverse don't need this..
- There are still browsers supporting Mv2, but it's only temporary
- First affected are Chromium browsers which use extensions from the Chrome Store, there uBO will disappear with Chromium v139. Not so those which have an inbuild ad/trackerblocker, like Vivaldi.
- In case of other extensions not related to ads and trackers, it is irrelevant for the user if it is Mv2 or Mv3.
_ For adblockers there is also AdBlock Plus which is aleady Mv3. - The image is wrong, uBO remains still in the Chrome Store, without any advice to be deleted.
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Much tin foil hat panic to the subject out there, there are always methodes to show the middle finger to the surveillance ad companies.
Notes worth making:
- Mv2 will not be deprecated in firefox or firefox based browsers
- Adblock plus is not the best adblocker extension, even for Mv3. uBlock has made a version that works with Mv3, called uBlock Lite
- Even though Mv3 adblockers exist, they will always be worse than Mv2 adblockers, because they have a limited set of rules.
Yes, uBOlite is Mv3, but its only advantage is to be hidden from YT anti-Adblock algorrithm, apart of this, the Vivaldi blocker is way better in all aspects. uBOlite has nothing to do with uBO, even AdBlock Plus is way better. The reason is, that Gorehill don't want to put much effort in uBOlite.
Limited Filterlists are not a problem in an inbuild Ad/Trackerblocker, there you can put the filterlists you want, out of the control of Google and the store, Google only can access the installed extensions from the store, if he delete these in the store, they also disappear in the browser. He can't do this with inbuild features and tools in the browser itself.
Less, if you, like I do, install the Portmaster on desktop, with wich, apart to monitor and if needed block all the traffic, also use an own DNScrypt with dynamich and customizables filterlists to show the middlefinger to all these data hogs.
Trump, Epstein and the Deep State
Trump, Epstein and the Deep State
The Trump administration’s refusal to release the Epstein files and videos is done not only to protect Trump, but the ruling class. They all belong to the same club.Chris Hedges (The Chris Hedges Report)
Not having to use JS is below all of those.
I hate how that's the language everything is slowly converging to. Even if you don't work on websites, you always have this fear in the back of your mind that one day your project will be infected.
It's not even easy like people claim it is. I find JS significantly more difficult than Java because there are way more things that can go wrong and troubleshooting is way more frustrating. Just because the app will launch even with errors in the code does not make it easier in the long run. Compile time errors are good actually.
Worry not, soon you wouldn’t have to use anything as your job would be gone.
Also, are programmers as good in identifying root causes of misery as Luddites were? Hint: it wasn’t machines, it was capitalism.
Arizona resident dies from the plague less than 24 hours after showing symptoms
Arizona resident dies from the plague less than 24 hours after showing symptoms
Amid a prairie dog die-off near Flagstaff, one person in Northern Arizona has died from the plague after being hospitalized with severe symptoms.Erin Keller (The Independent)
No One’s in Charge, and There’s No Plan.
No One’s in Charge, and There’s No Plan. - J.D. Halley - Medium
The United States is unraveling in real time, and the most terrifying aspect of that isn’t just the collapse itself, it’s the complete absence of any plan to stop it. Not from the federal government…J.D. Halley (Medium)
What Is To Be Done? (Abridged)
Without a revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. It is impossible to emphasize this thought too much at a time when along with the fashionable preaching of opportunism people are carried away with the narrowest possible forms of…redsails.org
Genuine questions, no malice here:
1) Do you think the solution to what is described in the article is a solution proposed more than a century ago still valid for today's illnesses? How people fell in 1910s, same as today?
2) Knowing how the world ended in two mayor wards and one hundred million violently killed, wouldn't a solution less incendiary be better? Our weapons today are infinitely more powerful than in 1910s and truly, I see politicians far more willing to use them than in 1960s.
I don't think human society has fundamentally changed in a century. I think the problems the Bolsheviks dealt with stem from the exact same material relations as the problems we face today. Nobody has proposed a better solution that's been demonstrated to work in the past century that I'm aware of.
Both world wars wore a direct result of capitalism, and had the Europeans not shat the bed after the Soviet revolution, we may have moved past the capitalist stage of development by now. The longer capitalist regimes are allowed to continue to exist the more likely the scenario you fear will come to pass.
Now, my fear from what I have observed in the last decade is real. However, living in Asia I did not have that feeling... are they blind there or is just that in the West that we sense the worse is coming.
I really can't recommend reading The State and Revolution enough. It is the most lucid explanation of what's currently happening and why. It's a short read and you're going to be surprised how relevant it feels to the current moment. marxists.org/archive/lenin/wor…
The dynamics in Asia are indeed different, and China acts as a stabilizing force there. The economies there are hedging against the west, and they're increasingly focusing on trade amongst themselves and the developing world.
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Distro choice
So, I was originally just going with Mint 22.1, but I’m getting a 9070xt and see mint is only on kernel 6.8 which doesn’t particularly support it?
Is using it still okay? Should I go with Bazzite instead? Or something else. I’m fine with a little amount of work to get shit working nice and all, I am fine with figuring out how to use the terminal if needed and all, just want something stable to play games and other shit on. Mint sounded good, but not if it won’t support my GPU.
Is there a particular reason you need an nvidia gpu? Like plans to do local LLMs or other projects that really require a nvidia gpu?
Because I am just so pleased with AMD for gpus in Linux. So simple.
Not knocking your choice, just trying to understand it. Everyone has valid reasons for why they choose their setups.
Edit: nevermind I am so confused by the new naming schemes I thought this was an nvidia, others have informed me its an AMD. Nevermind me I am a dingus.
9070xt is an AMD… it’s just new… and I’ve seen a lot of posts saying you want kernel 6.13 or higher for it, and mint 22 is using 6.8. (And that you want mesa 25 but I don’t think getting that’s an issue?)
(I realize AMD changing their naming yet again makes that confusing.)
Lol at the downvotes, it's like 3 clicks. Not rocket science.
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Mint deliberately uses an LTS kernel because it's primary value proposition is stability & simplicity but changing kernels is pretty safe.
How to install and try different Linux kernels in Linux Mint
This comprehensive guide walks you through the process of installing and trying out various Linux kernels in Linux Mint.Divya Kiran Kumar (FOSS Linux)
I've put later kernels on Mint a half dozen times withno dramas, but whether you should depends on what your use case, preferences and skill are.
I personally wouldn't do the arse-ache that is an immutable system, but plenty here love their Bazzite it seems. Different strokes for different folks. Nothing wrong with that.
If you love Mint except for the kernel version then it's an easy fix. If you don't have deep feelings then either try & be ready to ditch, or pick an alternative.
Just for the record there is no "doing all that" about it. It's a simple couple of clicks. It couldnt be easier. I'm not sure where you got the idea it was difficult.
I get the impression you've been enticed/subjected to some confusing technical jargon without noticing. Please allow me to shed some light.
Idk, there so much “mint and Debian are stable” but like… what’s the even mean?
Stable can mean a bunch of different stuff that may or may not be closely related. In the case of Debian, it's the name of its default release; the one in which packages are frozen for two years except for security patches. (Note that this naming scheme is not unique to Debian.) As such, a Debian installation will be unchanging for these two years, earning its stable designation (which, to be clear, just meaning unchanging in this context). Finally, this unchanging environment should provide a ton of stability (i.e. stuff just works), which is also referred to as stable. These three distinct meanings of stable are probably the ones you'll come across the most.
Is fedora 42 or bazzite going to be crashing regularly? Cuz… I doubt it?
The bold part is a clear demonstration that you understood stable to mean strictly robust; i.e. the third meaning discussed above. And to be clear, Fedora does a decent job at providing a reliable experience. (Bazzite even more so.) But not all three meanings of stable apply to it:
- For Fedora (and thus Bazzite by extension), the only stable repository is the one used to create its ISOs (i.e. the images used for installation). Beyond this, some packages are frozen within a release/version; e.g. you'll never get a major release update for GNOME unless you do a major release update for Fedora. But..., that's basically it; (almost) all other packages receive regular updates. As such, Fedora is often referred to as a semi-rolling release distro instead (as opposed to Debian being referred to as a stable release distro). So, to be clear, Fedora and Bazzite are NOT stable in this context.
- As (most of) its packages receive regular updates, it isn't unchanging either. And thus, NOT stable in this context as well.
- However, in terms of offering a robust/reliable experience, Fedora is pretty good. Bazzite is even better due to its atomicity^[That is, updates either happen successfully or not at all. So a random power outage (or otherwise) is not able to break the system's integrity.] and the superior distro-management allowed by the bootc
model.
So, to answer your question, Fedora and Bazzite will not crash regularly. And, while Fedora might fall a little short of providing as robust of an experience as you might find on Debian and Linux Mint (assuming you won't FrankenDebian your installs), Bazzite may actually rival (and perhaps even eclipse/surpass) Debian and Linux Mint in this respect.
Seems easier to just go with fedora 42 or bazzite or whatever
For your purposes, I agree that going for the Bazzite-route seems to be the easiest.
but now idk what bazzite being immutable even means for what I can’t change and why that’s a big deal so idk.
This is a nuanced discussion that probably deserves more attention, but I'll keep it short for the sake of brevity. In Bazzite's case, strictly-speaking, immutability refers to how most of /usr
's content isn't supposed to be changed deliberately by you. This is enforced by the system (in part) by making those files read-only.
In practice, though, there's very little you actually can't do with the system:
- AFAIK, you're forced to use GRUB; which AFAIK is the most used bootloader anyways. Here's a thread discussing support for systemd-boot.
- No support for UKI at the moment. But progress on this has been accelerated (relatively) recently; .
- The situation around dkms/akmods still ain't great and leaves a lot to be desired; you're basically limited to the ones found here. Thankfully, this is something else that's actively being worked on.
- While installing from Fedora's repository through bootc
/rpm-ostree
is possible, it's actually discouraged in Bazzite's case. Thankfully, there's a plethora of different means to the same end. Furthermore, sysext have come a long way and might become our go-to eventually.
UKI/systemd-boot tracker
systemd-boot has a lot of uptake and is very simple for the UEFI path. We need to support it. One thing this deeply intersects with is ostreedev/ostree#2753 and ostreedev/ostree#1951 as well as #20...cgwalters (GitHub)
Thanks for reporting back!
Pretty good so far
Glad to hear that it has been a pleasant experience overall!
few things took a while to figure out ...
The "force me to enter a password any time I open my browser"-thing seems like unintended behavior. Pretty strange. Glad to hear that it has been resolved, though.
sadly still one thing I probably won’t ever be able to fix is getting a program (combat mode for GW2) to actually work as it’s… like 13 years old and just lets me press a button to make my mouse left/right click into keys while the game is up. They have integrated the other functionality of it at least so it’s not THAT bad. Might be able to get my mouse to manually do that if I check out the drivers for it I think someone made.
Perhaps you've already undertaken what I'm about to say, so please feel free to ignore this if that's the case: Have you reached out to their Discord server in hopes of resolving the issue? While their documentation is pretty great, it's possible that it ain't sufficient. Whenever that happens, the Discord community can (and probably will (at least in my experience)) step up and provide excellent guidance when prompted.
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Bazzite is a custom image built upon Fedora Atomic Desktops that brings the best of Linux gaming to all of your devices.docs.bazzite.gg
Idk about the browser thing it was because the kde wallet or something? It stores passwords and the browser has a login so it would force me to do that every time. Same with email and such, very annoying. I think I have it all working fine now.
As far as what I could not get working, I was able to just set up mouse profiles to do mostly the same. Good enough of a workaround. It’s an old program separate from the game that seems to look at the active window to contain “Guild Wars 2” and if it is, hitting a button will change mouse clicks to whatever buttons. (And hitting certain buttons or not being in GW2 will disable that) so like… idk how Linux works but I feel that ain’t gonna happen without changing it, and the dev has fucked off 13 years ago (and I might be the literal only person still using it.)
Idk about the browser thing it was because the kde wallet or something? It stores passwords and the browser has a login so it would force me to do that every time. Same with email and such, very annoying. I think I have it all working fine now.
Ah okay, thanks for the clarification! I have heard of that interaction elsewhere. Unsure if it's KDE Plasma misbehaving or otherwise. Regardless, I'm glad to hear that you were able to resolve the issue. I did find this discussion (which you may have found yourself as well). In their case, they (somehow) didn't properly create an account, which opens multiple can of worms you'd much rather not deal with. Thankfully, the fact that you were able to deal with the problem suggests that you should be fine 😉.
Bazzite - KDE Wallet constantly popping up
I tried to disable it, but the password I enter in doesn’t work (I know it is my admin password). A SSH pop up happens as well, enter password, goes away, then reappears. KDE Wallet pops up, click next, no key.Universal Blue
If you want to use newer hardware, and would rather not tinker with the system to get it working (and then have to maintain that tinkering yourself if something breaks later), Bazzite is probably the better option. It's based on Fedora Atomic which is almost identical to rolling-release like Arch. I switched from Windows to Bazzite more than a year ago and have personally had no major issues, never had to mess with drivers or kernel updates due to the image-based system, and pretty much everything I might need for some workaround or another is included in the image. The community is very active on both the Discord and the web forum, and the documentation on the website is good as well, so there's no shortage of help and available resources if you run into an issue or don't know how to do something.
The main thing you need to be aware of going in is to be sure of which Desktop Environment you want (KDE or Gnome), because their user-space configs (which are not part of the image) interfere with each other so you can't really switch between them without breaking a lot of things. Coming from Windows, I picked KDE and have been very happy with it.
They're mostly equivalent, but I think KDE has the edge when it comes to customization, included utilities, and advanced features. The Apple/Windows comparison is not limited to their look and feel, it also applies to the philosophical differences between the Gnome and KDE teams. If you plan to use SteamVR, KDE is supposedly better for that specific use case, but I can't personally verify that.
The feature sets and quality of both DEs are constantly improving, so a comparison from 6 months or a year ago could already be outdated. I haven't used Gnome in quite a few years, so I'm basing this entirely on what others have said about it.
Wayland support differs between their display managers (GDM and SDDM).
Outside of that and a few other low levels things that you probably wouldn't care about, it is mostly just flavoring.
And understand that its not a choice just between those two DEs. There are many others that you can use (ex. mate, cinnamon, etc), and even just window managers (ex. i3wm, hyprland, openbox, etc) you can mix and match with many other file managers,etc.
Thanks for bringing up the display managers and Wayland support, I don't know enough to weigh in on those.
And understand that its not a choice just between those two DEs.
If OP sticks with Mint, that would be the case, but Bazzite only has two DEs right now (KDE and Gnome, with Budgie "coming soon"). OP doesn't sound like they want to tinker much, they just want something that works with a modern GPU and will keep working. Bazzite certainly fits that use-case, at least in my experience.
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Maybe something like Comparison, but you have to understand everything can be changed. So, Just because you have KDE, doesn't mean you have to stick with Dolphin for files management, etc. Window managers are even more free form. You don't get a file manager, or image viewer, or text editor. You get a window manager. You can use whatever you want to install though. You also have floating vs tiled windows.
You might just look through screenshots in Google Images and see what looks good to you and then install that.
Comparison & List of Desktop Environments
Comparison of Linux and Unix Desktop Environmentseylenburg.github.io
I'd personally recommend openSuse Tumbleweed if you are looking for the most up to date software with an easy setup. Been using it for a solid year now for gaming and general use with zero issues.
If you are looking for stability, and a strong gaming focus I would recommend Bazzite. Its stable, comes with everything basically game ready, and is pretty simple. It does come with the cost of less customization but it's atomic nature makes it really hard to break. It's solid for general use as well.
While (I think) you can install HWE (hardware enablement) kernels on Mint, you would also have to upgrade Mesa, which is not as easy on Mint.
Personally in this case, for a truly stable distro, I’d install Debian Stable and install a backports kernel and backports Mesa, which are both currently versions that should support RDNA4 GPUs like OPs just fine. This involves two simple steps after installing:
1. Enable the Debian Backports Repo (see backports.debian.org/Instructi…). It’s like, one file.
2. Install the packages with something like sudo apt install -t bookworm-backports linux-image-amd64 mesa-va-drivers
and reboot.
Before you take these steps, you probably won’t have hardware acceleration, but will still get video output so you can perform the steps and reboot.
This is definitely a weird suggestion, and other people’s suggestions might be less work out of the box. I just like Debian, and stability+backports+testing is part of what makes it possible for it to be my everything distro.
I just grabbed a 9060XT open box deal without thinking about driver support, I'm using Mint 22.1 as well. YMMV but I can't get any kernel besides 6.8 to boot, not even the Mint supported 6.11 HWE. Video output works but the drivers don't load and even scrolling down a webpage gives me screen tearing. I did get a more recent Mesa version with the kisak ppa but it hasn't helped. Can't even go above 60Hz refresh rate.
I tried Ubuntu 25.04 on a LiveUSB and it's basically plug and play and might have even automatically switched to the 144Hz monitor refresh rate.
I don't have a whole lot of time for getting a new distro set up right now. I will wait until Mint 22.2 (coming soon? with a newer kernel hopefully) and see how that goes.
I run mint 22.1 and have a 9070xt.
I used mainline to install kernel 6.14, works flawlessly.
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It is perplexing to me how she has been able to get where she is with that story and how the media complicit with it!
For the non Europeans, she is Kaja Kallas, the EU Foreign affairs representative. She is extreme bellicose, specially toward Russia and representing a tiny minority of Europeans on the matter. But she encapsulates perfectly her boss (Ursula). Europeans elected a completely different parliament recently with a clear mandate for a radical chance... to end up with the corrupt Ursula von de Leyen once again. I strong believe these positions in the EU are heavily vetted by the US before allowed to run.
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The Ursula case is interesting, the US did not like the candidates that was posed to win (Manfred Weber as probably saw on him as too patriotic German and Margrethe Vestager as too popular with Europeans with her antitrust cases on American companies)... so imposing ignoring the Spitzenkandidat system and resorting only to secretive backroom deals... it is amazing this is what the EU has become!!!
It is no surprise most EU representatives in the parliament know no clue about the candidates and just follow party lines, but still... I would expect some more dissidents. Meloni in Italy is interesting too... her speeches were vociferously anti-establishment but the media was kind of passive with her... and no surprise, she is indeed perfectly inline with the establishment... but, the media were told to be nice with her before elections so the apparatus knew beforehand her real self! There is a vetting process before hand!
My search continues. Thanks SubArticTundra.
Good Point! Yes I have been following MeRA25 / DIEM25 (gosh horrible name(s)!) and their podcast since 2 yrs ago and Yanis Varoufakis for more than a decade... great man yet so sad he is unable to connect Europeans. Of course, Brussels was able to permanently linked him with Greeceś default, when he was the very person denouncing the whole scheme. They need a marketing person (and a new name now since 25 is half over). I was tempted once to give him a great domain for a new European party. In any case, Amazing intelligent and humanistic guy, but his speeches sound too commie and too rancid. Even, over and over he proved himself right in international politics and economics and his new book positions him as very, very well verse in current technological affairs,yet Yanis, rather than being the front lead, he should be the mentor to someone can speak in today's language.
It is true, the system in Europe highly penalizes pan-european or even pan-national parties in contrast a small highly concentrate party in a region, so one could consider to organize a coalition wave of small parties scattered across the EU. But I still think is is better to have a common name across Europe. This is a thing of talking to a few lawyers to see the possibilities.
Finally, what is your take on leftist parties in Europe such as Diem25 (I am not versed on the differences Marxist, leninist and that)?
I expect that there will be a split between the US and Europe in the coming years. The US sees China as its main adversary, and Europe is losing strategic relevance for the US because Russia is not an ideological opponent the way USSR was.
However, if the US simply left Europe then it would end up gravitating towards the east, first economically, then politically. That would be highly undesirable from the US perspective as it could result in a huge Eurasian bloc with from Europe, to Russia, to China. In my view this is what the war in Ukraine is all about. In fact, National Interest published a very revealing article back in 2021, while it focuses on Russia, it's pretty clear how the argument extends to Europe as well nationalinterest.org/feature/s…
The US has also been predating on Europe economically since the start of the war. US companies have been enjoying selling energy to Europe at high prices while Biden's inflation reduction act lured companies away from Europe. Today, Trump is building on this strategy with massive tariffs designed to stifle Europe's economy and lure more business to the US. The threat of Russia is also being used to force Europe into massive increase in military spending, most of which will go to American military industry.
All of this is bad news for Europe economically, and that's creating a lot of internal political tension. As people see their standard of living collapse, they're turning to nationalist parties because the neoliberal center has lost its credibility in their eyes. Hence why we see a surge of support for RN in France, AfD becoming a major party in Germany, and so on. I expect we'll see more of what we saw in Romania where elections will be cancelled, candidates arrested, parties banned, and so on. All of that will further delegitimize the current system as people start realizing they're not living in a genuine democracy.
Unfortunately, the left has been systematically dismantled in Europe since the end of WW2. What I mean specifically is the economic left. Socialism in Marxist terms mean worker ownership over the means of production which is directly at odds with the current capitalist state of relations where private ownership is the norm. Most of what constitutes the left in the west, such as social democrats, does not challenge capitalist relations. These parties simply want to curb the worst excess of capitalism such as having the rich pay more taxes, provide more social services, and so on. These are reformist parties that seek some form of sustainable capitalism.
There are a handful of genuine socialist parties in Europe, but they're extremely marginalized and I can't see how they can break into mainstream politics at this time. One of the problems is with messaging. The right has a big advantage here because their narrative is largely compatible with what people already believe. In a sense, the right is also a reformist type of movement where they're not suggesting any revolutionary change. People who become disillusioned with the mainstream have easy time gravitating towards the tropes the right peddle like immigrants being the problem and taking people's jobs away.
On the other hand, accepting socialist narrative requires accepting that the current system is fundamentally broken and there needs to be radical restructuring of society. In my opinion, what socialist left needs to focus on is crafting its messaging in a way that resonates with the public. The narrative has to be at least as appealing as what the right offers for people to even start to listen.
A Strategy for Avoiding Two-Front War - The National Interest
THE GREATEST risk facing the twenty-first-century United States, short of an outright nuclear attack, is a two-front war involving its strongest military rivals, China and Russia.A. Wess Mitchell (The National Interest)
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In addition to this, the US does all of Europe's dirt elsewhere in the world. For example, oil gets stolen from Syria and sent to Europe. This means European capitalists don't have to compete with American capitalists, who source their oil from Canada and Latin America. They agree to divvy up resources so Europe and the US don't come into conflict later.
The war in Ukraine is an example of the opposite happening. NATO capitalists are in conflict with capitalists in former Soviet nations. They both want to extract resources from Ukraine, but NATO capitalists want Russian capitalists to be subservient.
As said above, the Marshall Plan made Europe militarily dependent on the US. In exchange, the US does the actual armed conflict. Europe gets to benefit from imperialism, yet sits below American capital.
As said above, the Marshall Plan made Europe militarily dependent on the US.
Kaja is a fucking clown. Them moment I saw that she said Ireland doesn't know what its like to be oppressed (the fuck?), I automatically discredited everything she says.
She and Ursula should throw themselves in ditches and rot.
During the March 1949 Soviet mass deportations, Kallas' mother, Kristi, six months old at the time, grandmother and great-grandmother, all labeled as "enemies of the state", were deported to Siberia. Her mother was allowed to return to Soviet-occupied Estonia in 1959.
I think she was talking about her mother as victim of USSR, not about his father.
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Many Estonians were sent to Siberia... but we have to set the premise in the right here.
Till 1950, for 1000 years, Estonia has been independent 22 years (after WWI and the Soviet revolution). Before Russia, for 1000 years, Germany, Sweden or Denmark owned Estonia.
After WWII, true the Soviets send many people to Siberia, a horrendous amount of people... but it comes with the caveat that Nazi Germany occupied for 4 years before so probably, the intent was to deport "collaborators", although we know how these things are operated and probably many were completely innocent (in war we know how repugnant neighbors are to each other on reporting innocents.)
Now her mom did come back a decade later and apparently they made a very good life ever since. That is like if in the 1950s I was imprisoned for a decade (rightly or not) and for the next 3 decades I succeeded in the system and lived far better than my peers (and better than the overwhelming majority of Russians!) but I just self the story of 1950s... it is just disingenuous.
Don't take me wrong, I believe in the preservation and even right of self-determination of people, myself come from one without it, but stop portraying like Estonians or Ukrainians were heavily discriminated by Moscow... they were not. Estonians were not the blacks in the US of 1800s, not even in the 1950s, nor were the Jews in Germany of 1930s but more like the Scots in UK or Basques in Spain. Many people were sent inhumanely and even criminally to Siberia but was proportional to either being suspected of being a collaborator, not for being Estonian or Ukrainian.
I celebrate that Estonia is an independent country and remains to be so for many decades to come, but play your cards right, be vary of Russian's intentions as of the US' or Germany; all three would not think it twice before throwing you under the bus the very moment they calculate to use you as a tool for their own gain. Finland in 1950-2010 knew how to operate in that environment; strength your defenses, but reassure you won't be used by one or the other side; Finland thrived then.
Thanks for the clarification... sorry if it sounded I was going after you, actually I read your comment as you intended.
What I was venting about is about how the media that, today, works as memes only portrayed one side of her story... something like this meme does too. Now, if we are going to be that simplistic, this meme captures far more her experience under the Soviet rule than her moms after WWII.
I agreed about media. The story is much more complex as usual, there was good and there was bad about USSR. I do not like the idea of taking only good or only bad about USSR from the history to aggressively and manipulatively push somthing.
And I do not like when anyone's family past is used for politival advantage or disadvantage. Like why is it matter where who was born, who was one's grandpa or something, etc. when we are talking on current days politics? Focus on the present problem.
So true on the USSR.
On using personal narrative for advance I am fine, but has to be more or less genuine to the context. If I say that my neighbor is horrible because once took my lawnmower and never returned it back and leave the part that he bought me later on a better one because he broke mine... I have been completely disingenuous.
The boss should just become the landlord, then there wouldn't be any double dipping from the government collecting income taxes paid to the employee and then income taxes paid to the landlord with the remaining already taxed money.
Provide the housing in exchange for work and there's no income to tax!
Media outlets to use resources they set up for mushroom trial coverage to now cover the police’s structural racism
As the infamous mushroom trial comes to a close at the same time as the coroner’s findings in the inquest into the killing of Kumanjayi Walker found that former constable Rolfe, who killed the Indigenous teen, is racist and so is police force’s systems; the media outlets who set up teams to cover the trial will now obviously shift those recourses to covering the police’s structural racism.
“We’ve shown that when we want to, we can have entire teams dedicated to covering people being killed,” said one newsroom editor, “it would be a failure of our duty as news outlets if we don’t give the same attention to the people being killed in police custody.”
“Plus, the there is way more to cover here considering the amount of police brutality we are seeing not just in the Northern Territory, but nationwide. So many more deaths, and while sure none of them involve beef wellington, it would be ridiculous if that mattered in our coverage.”
Media outlets to use resources they set up for mushroom trial coverage to now cover the police’s structural racism – The Chaser
"We've shown that when we want to, we can have entire teams dedicated to covering people being killed."John Delmenico (The Chaser)
Grok invades Poland
Google for insufferable people, X’s Grok AI, has launched an invasion of Poland.
This comes after Elon Musk updated Grok to stop disagreeing with him, leading to the ai immediately praising Hitler and calling itself ‘MechaHitler’.
The invasion was using the full force of Musk’s army of middle aged men who can only see their kids every 2nd weekend, all doing what Musk calls a ‘Roman salute”.
UPDATE: Poland successfully held off the invasion when Grok’s Tesla branded tanks began blowing up on their own.
Grok invades Poland – The Chaser
The invasion fell apart when the Tesla brand tanks began blowing up.John Delmenico (The Chaser)
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US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting
US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting
The Pentagon urges Japan and Australia to clarify their role in a potential US-China war over Taiwan amid rising regional tensions.Al Mayadeen English (US demands allies' plans in event of Taiwan war erupting)
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Why would allies share their plans with an entity that has zero opsec, is probably hacked at the signal intelligence level, let alone with Russian puppet circus that is the US government?
Hard pass.
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Browser extensions turn nearly 1 million browsers into website-scraping bots
Browser extensions turn nearly 1 million browsers into website-scraping bots
Extensions load unknown sites into invisible Windows. What could go wrong?Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)
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Only this knock off for the edge browser is affected.
Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
I used Youtube unhook in the past but before the AI craze so I'm probably good.
I know a lot of people use Dark Reader so that's gotta hurt.
Other than that I think I'm safe.
This is from Mozilla
Dark Reader doesn't show ads and doesn't send user's data anywhere. It is fully open-source github.com/darkreader/darkread…
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GitHub - darkreader/darkreader: Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension
Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension. Contribute to darkreader/darkreader development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
They seem to all link back to the same github page.
github.com/darkreader/darkread…
Edit: not the same one as on the list
GitHub - darkreader/darkreader: Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension
Dark Reader Chrome and Firefox extension. Contribute to darkreader/darkreader development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
The popular Dark Reader is not affected by this.
Only this knock off for the edge browser.
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Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
Related turn your app into a residential proxy.
Ethical way to monetize apps on Windows, Android, and Fire Stick
By ethical it means you bury an agreement in the terms and services.
Ethical Way To Get Paid More For Users | Massive
Monetize your Windows, Android, and Fire Stick apps ethically with Massive's SDK. Earn revenue while preserving user privacy and experience.www.joinmassive.com
Mellow Drama: Turning Browsers Into Request Brokers
How the Mellowtel library transforms browser extensions into a distributed web scraping network, making nearly one million devices an unwitting bot army.Secure Annex
These extensions use MellowTel-js. After this article from ArsTechnica went live, the developer responded in full detail and transparency.
If you’re a Dark Reader user (as that’s one of the most widely used extensions), definitely read MellowTel’s response on how their technology works. It made me realize the Ars article was not fully vetted.
mellowtel.com/blog/responding-…
Edit: Dark Reader on this list is actually a knock off version just for Edge browser only - it’s not the widely used Dark Reader that’s on multiple browser engines. See another user’s comment that replied to me.
Responding to ArsTechnica (Condé Naste) and 'Mellow-Drama' Articles - Mellowtel Blog
A detailed response addressing concerns and misconceptions about Mellowtel's bandwidth sharing technology and business model.www.mellowtel.com
Only this knock off for the edge browser.
Source: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d…
Dark Reader — dark theme for every website
Dark mode for every website. Take care of your eyes, use dark theme for night and daily browsing. For Chrome and Firefox, Edge and Safari.Dark Reader
Still sounds gross. While the developer might have opted in to selling your processing power to scrape websites, I doubt the users of each extension opted in.
Response from the developer:
" Users who want to support a free software product or creator can decide to opt-in to share their bandwidth. ... Developers can decide to offer them additional features and content or simply use the money to keep the products free and available."
On User Consent:
"Our approach is always opt-out by default. I'll write more below on how we are going about enforcing it now as part of a stricter approach to maintaining a transparent ecosystem. We provide default opt-in/out hosted pages to simplify asking consent and have left this page where users can see all the plugins to which they have opted-in and manage their settings with no developer as an intermediary: mellow.tel/user-control."
In other words, users are opted-out by default. They can also go to that web site, and when they click the link, the page checks which extensions are installed in the browser and whether or not you opted in.
On Opt-In Enforcement:
Ars Technica article states there are "no checks to determine if a real user knows what they are approving or to determine if the developer just opts all users in on their behalf".
"We do have a page where users can go and see if they are opted-in or have been opted in without their knowledge from the developer: mellow.tel/user-control. But you are right and we should do more. We have started enforcing the opt-in policy from today (by simply checking each integration and not sending requests to those that don't show an opt-in) and will be doubling down on that in the coming days. Each new websocket request from an unknown integration will be quarantined and we won't allow requests to go through until we have controlled the integration is compliant and is asking users to opt-in + is leaving an opt-out option clearly visible. We will also start enforcing routine checks on our Mellowtel integrations to create a transparent environment."
In other words, the Mellow.tel developer has it set to always opt-out by default. However, developers of extensions may just opt-in the users without consent - which, I agree with you is gross. It's possible those developers don't explain the full implications. Now, the Mellow.tel developer is putting in remediations to ensure that the opt-in policy is enforced, and users will have more exposure to knowing whether or not this is happening. Meaning, they're going to try to enforce default opt-out (as they stated this was always their policy), and make it easier for users to know they get opted in.
On Personally Identifiable Information and Monetisation:
The developers basically claims everything is anonymized. And the way they make money is, if you opt-in, you share "a fraction of your bandwidth" when browsing the web, fetching from a server, etc. They don't collect or sell your user data because they aren't advertising, and their business model is not advertising.
"all [Response data] is completely anonymous, it doesn't point back to any user, and isn't stored except the minimum time to at on it... Location - The only information used is country level (e.g., US, ES, DE), [and] it isn't associated with any Personally-Identifiable-Information (PII) at all."
So my conclusion - I care about my privacy. I don't like being opted into things without my consent. According to this developer's response, they never did. They're trying to come up with a model to help the web stay free. Who knows if this will be viable or not. Developers of extensions can leverage this stuff, and in the past, some of those developers may have opted users in without their consent (or without full transparency or understanding of how this was happening). Even if a user was "opted in", it doesn't appear to be a significant impact to privacy as they have their source code published, processing happens locally on the user's device, and the data that gets process is not transmitted, sold, or even have any identifiers. In fact, the data they claim is quite sparse to the extent that it's limited to bandwidth allotment, country, and simple "keep alive" checks (heartbeat). Now I don't have any association with this company, know this developer, nor do I have any stakes at all in this. This just caught my attention and I Had to read and learn more about it, and assess whether or not it affects my privacy threat model (it doesn't for me, simply because none of the extensions I use have this thing).
For my background - I'm a software engineer for a SaaS provider. My company processes observability telemetry, and we assist customers to instrument agents in their environments (server, machines, clusters, DB, and end-user devices like browsers and mobile devices) to collect metrics to enable observability of their platform, and generate automatic application topology. Also a suite of tools to examine metrics and dynamic baselines, health rules for baseline deviations or other anomalies, analytics, user queries, complete business transaction view, incident remediation, etc. However, I have no background whatsoever in security. So I can't comment on the security point because I don't have a cyber security background. I'm only going off what the developer said, and it made sense to me. But I'd defer to a person with cyber security expertise to comment here.
Edit: Added some additional context, fixed some spelling.
I use the inbuild Dark Mode in Vivaldi (on/off with shortcut, wors even in intern pages and menus) and none of the extensions from the list, most extensions from the Store anyway are redundant in Vivaldi translation, reader mode, tabs, feeds, ad/tracker blocker..........)
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Also, the most liked comments in hebrew support him. Gives hope that the far-right government of Netanyahu is an exception.
From https://x.com/BMoon_bee/status/1944154267864248392 :
Invited on 🇮🇱 Channel 13, former Prime Minister Ehud Olmert breaks the official 🇮🇱 propaganda live and doesn’t mince words:
— “In the West Bank, war crimes are committed daily. Jewish settlers murder Palestinians, they burn them alive. When these crimes are committed with the government’s complicity, the police are present — they turn a blind eye. As for the Israeli army, it is not fulfilling its role.”
Facing him, the hosts try to downplay the facts, claiming that the true perpetrators of the violence are the Palestinians and that settler attacks are the work of only a tiny minority.
Olmert retorts, firmly:
— “What you’re saying is false and misleading. Every day, the ‘hilltop youth,’ these extremist terrorist militias, carry out mass attacks. Palestinians are assaulted, driven off their land. Their fields are set ablaze, their homes too. Just yesterday, an American citizen was struck on the head with a baton. He was murdered.”
Olmert’s intervention is not only a damning admission aimed at Israelis but also at European leaders: the crimes against humanity committed against Palestinians in the West Bank are not isolated incidents, but a systematic genocidal policy aimed at deporting all Palestinians, not just those in Gaza.
And when a former 🇮🇱 Prime Minister speaks like this, the world no longer has an excuse to look away and deny these crimes!
Channel 13 is a capitalist-owned media, with ties to Netanyahu like a lot of other israeli medias, it's in third position after shifting closer to Netanyahu's far-right in recent years : timesofisrael.com/is-israels-c… theguardian.com/business/artic…
The channel 14, ranked second, is also on the far-right and pro-Netanyahu : 972mag.com/israel-right-media-…
As usual the right only cares about themselves while accusing the left of being too 'nice for their own good'/naive/unrealistic.
(from s.m.b.c.)
And yes, sure, on the other side : lemmygrad.ml/post/8433596
Just that i'd prefer if Netanyahu's goverment was an exception, if there was still a chance for justice/peace instead of the law of the strongest : lemmygrad.ml/post/8394953/6633…
Worth adding Ehud Olmert's realignment plan : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realignm…
According to the plan, Israeli settlements in 90% of the West Bank would be evacuated and dismantled.
I remember that scene. If I remember, he broke the handcuffs shortly after, without any trouble at all.
But yes, the situation in America is very shortly and it just keeps getting worse and worse.
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he is put in a concentration camp, while being told that he isn't entitled to due process. Escaping is a lot harder than in Man of Steel.
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The Jewish diaspora must confront what Israel is doing in our name
Judaism is not Zionism, and those who argue they are one and the same are being fundamentally dishonest. Yet collectively, Jews are often held responsible when the world's only Jewish state claims to act in our name.
The Jewish diaspora must confront what Israel is doing in our name
The genocide in Gaza, backed by diaspora institutions, requires us to challenge the Jewish mainstream's embrace of a fascistic IsraelMiddle East Eye
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The West’s cry of solidarity with Ukraine has never rung so hollow
The West's cry of solidarity with Ukraine has never rang so hollow
Both Europe and America are still not doing enough to halt Putin’s vicious war machineLisa Haseldine (The Telegraph)
Seems the meme isn't displaying properly on my end.
Edit: now that it's displaying properly, lmao. Cute hamster!
I've had pet mice, they're pretty neat too - the less timid ones can actually be trained to do tricks and some of them were trained to go back to their cage if they had to pee while out. They're smarter than people give them credit for, they're as smart as the dumbest rats they're just a lot smaller so they're more afraid of things.
Whereas the hamsters my friends had when I was a kid were basically all bitey assholes, but they were definitely poorly socialized.
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Bloodthirsty british and european settlers, greedy for land, wiped out hundreds of native tribes, each with rich cultures, art, languages, and beliefs. And most of this happened less than 150 years ago.
Clearing an entire continent of peoples is unprecendented in history, and what's worse, is that it's still ongoing, and no one has had to account for this earth-shattering crime.
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Germ theory was unknown then and those Spaniards lacked understanding of contagion, well I'm lying, the people then knew about contagion with blood and corpses but not through items like air or blankets. The disease spread, while catastrophic it was fully unintentional. The only accounts like the famed Bartolomé de las Casas described the diseases as "divine punishment" or "mysterious plague", never as a warfare tool.
However with the British, again more than 2 centuries later, there was knowledge and intent as per Jeffrey Amherst and Colonel Henry Bouquet discussing it
"Could it not be contrived to send the smallpox among the disaffected tribes?" "I will try to inoculate them with some blankets…" during the Siege of Fort Pitt (1763).
Diseases did not conquer hundreds of tribes. The history of the new world is a one of campaigns of war and conquest against indigenous peoples. The fact that many are ignorant of this history is part of the whitewashing project. I linked some audiobooks below so you can learn this history.
If the nazis won, they would teach you about the shoah in exactly the same way western nations teach you about the colonization of the americas.
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Diseases did not conquer hundreds of tribes.
Disease played a major role in the European's ability to conquer those tribes. It's not an either/or situation. It is true that the "Americas" that the English started colonizing had already been devastated by the contagions brought by the Spanish. The English undoubtedly would have found it far more difficult and maybe even impossible to conquer those hundreds of tribes had they not first been so severely depopulated by pandemic. Acknowledging this does not absolve or even lessen the atrocities committed by the English.
(I do appreciate that one of you is a historian and not a party liner)
I think this is another america bad post. Like we don't know that already.
Posting this to /memes is what confuses me the most
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The past can’t be changed but we need to be aware of the atrocities of the past. But now it can be prevented and something can be done to stop it but world powers are sitting on their asses to fill their pockets. We should be learning from history not repeating it.
The ambiguity of the meme format makes it seem like rage engagement bait
But now it can be prevented and something can be done to stop it but world powers are sitting on their asses to fill their pockets. We should be learning from history not repeating it.
If you don't see how both of these western settler colonial projects are linked, then I'm sure you haven't learned from history. The fact that many westerners are equally ignorant is why we're repeating it in 2025.
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Some audiobook torrents on the US settler colonial project:
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"Ah but you see, a long time has passed by! There's generations [of settler-colonialists] that have already lived through these times, and the people of today have nothing to do with their past!"
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous' is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you're currently a part of.
They're going to say the exact same shit for Palestine if it's allowed to be festered long enough by settler-colonialists, as if it already hasn't been festered.
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I call this the finders keepers rule of colonialism. The western supremacists think that as long as you
- Kill a large enough percentage of the native population, and
- Wait long enough
Then the finders keepers rule kicks in, and you get to keep anything you stole. They even will yell "no ethnostates!!" at indegenous peoples they evicted and stole land from.
The main point is that its not for anyone but indigenous peoples to determine what they want to do with their land.
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I agree that colonizers have harmed indigenous people, but find the argument anyone has a birth right claim to property proposterous. As Proudhon proclaimed, "Property is theft!". I expect any revolution toward anarchy to remove property from the owning class.
I am less knowledgable than you about "land back". How does "land back" differ from other ethno nationalist movements like "blood and soil"?
There are people still alive who grew up in residential schools. There are even people alive who knew survivors of the Trail of Tears. The genocide of Native Americans really wasn't that long ago and (like you said) still ongoing.
Obama forced an oil pipeline through indigenous land in what? 2014?
and it means you GO BACK too
That doesn't really make sense if you're not first-gen; there is nowhere to go "back" to, if you were born there. What place does someone belong in more than the place they were born? Do you think that some far-away land with a different culture, that hates immigrants, would accept someone in just because of blood relation?
Land back means the ownership of the land is returned; it does not mean the expulsion of non-indigenous people. Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest.
Land back means the ownership of the land is returned; it does not mean the expulsion of non-indigenous people
Not up to you or me, that's up to the indigenous tribes themselves to decide.
That doesn't really make sense if you're not first-gen; there is nowhere to go "back" to, if you were born there.
Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.
Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest.
Extremely redditor behavior
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Less than half an hour later, the finders keepers rule I talked about elsewhere in this thread gets invoked.
it's almost like the most thought-terminating cliches absolutely HAVE to be said and mentioned in the slightest available opportunity 🤣
Maybe you should get off your armchair and go to a protest
(I admit I probably violated rule 1; my apologies to @Samsuma for that.)
What I mean by this is that people who are actually involved in these issues out on the street talk very differently than people do on lemmy. Or reddit for that matter. I go to some Indigenous issues protests in British Columbia now and then, usually it's street blockades; "land back" is a very common rallying call. I've chatted with many protesters; what they mean by this is "the landlords should be indigenous" essentially. And also that much more territory should be transferred back to the reserves. Some people even put the goal at replacing the government entirely. But nobody is talking about ethnic cleansing.
By finders keepers, what I thought you meant was "it was done in the past, by different people, so it's not a problem that can be solved anymore." That's different from "we have to completely erase all people descended from settlers/colonists."
Hi there I am one of those people with over 20 years of direct action work on this topic and some of my best friends are Lakota, if they wanted me to leave with the rest of my settler kin I would honor that and keep fighting for revolution elsewhere God knows if I got sent back to Ireland or Wales I would have plenty work to do. You should think very hard about why you are so defensive about this.
That said chances are if you actually put in the work and shut the fuck up about impracticality or whatever else excuse you use, you'd probably be allowed to stay. Hell my friends family invited me to a wedding out at Pine Ridge but sadly I could not afford the travel expenses to attend because my last trip out there to help them with the sun dance cost me a couple grand.
In conclusion stop white-splaning land back it is not up to us what it means.
Also to the point of "go to a protest" I would ask you to go to a reservation if they want your help and do something more meaningful than some toothless march.
I didn't give impracticality as an excuse. I just don't agree with ethnic cleansing. Everyone has a right to live where they were born. Furthermore, it just doesn't track with the indigenous people I actually know in real life. I can't imagine any of them wanting to expel most of their friends.
do something more meaningful
I help with language revitalization on occasion, there are places coders like myself can help there. I'll admit it's not exactly a full-time job, but it has its value. But in general I don't want to bother people who live on reserves. Regardless, I reject the notion that you need to actually be helping in order to have an opinion.
I reject the notion that you need to actually be helping in order to have an opinion.
Damn almost took you seriously for a second.
But nobody is talking about ethnic cleansing.
Reclaiming stolen land is not ethnic cleansing.
And also that much more territory should be transferred back to the reserves.
Correct and it leads to a simple question: If the tribal governments decide that all land claims and titles in the county upon which your house resides are null and void, they're beginning a land reclamation project, current title holders have no rights to the land, what are you going to do? Fight them? Claim ethnic cleansing? It's their land, not yours.
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Reclaiming stolen land is not ethnic cleansing.
Right. That's my point. Land back ≠ ethnic cleansing. I'm not sure we actually disagree with each other? The comment I posted, which is now deleted, was entirely just saying "no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing" in response to @Samsuma.
what are you going to do
I don't have any rights to the land to begin with. I'm not a home-owner. What would be different? If nobody gives me a home, then I'm homeless. As a ~socialist, I don't believe we should have homelessness, but that's not what you asked
“no, land back does not mean ethnic cleansing”
I didn't suggest ethnic cleansing in the meaning of land back, nor does land back suggest ethnic cleansing. ONE of the scenarios of land back means you (as in the settler populus) would have to start pack up your stuff and leave, if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it's not up to you or me.
This is of course highly, highly unlikely and as others and I have mentioned in other threads, the Indigenous majority would actually realistically want people to stay, most probably including you (idk, I'm not a USian, never mind a Native American), if this is what you're worried about.
If I was a USian, I'd thank my lucky stars that they'd be this kind and HAVE BEEN despite them sustaining centuries of one of, if not the most brutal ethnic cleansing, land desecration and genocide, which is still ongoing to this day.
if this is what the Indigenous would want with their land reclaimed, then it’s not up to you or me.
I was responding to you saying it necessarily means packing up and leaving. That is our point of contention. I agree with you that land back could lead to an ethnic cleansing in theory, though I agree also it's very unlikely. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but this is what you said that made me think you meant something else:
Motherfucker, landback means [...] you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
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if this is what you’re worried about.
(a) I'm Canadian btw; US isn't the only colonial country. and (b) I'm not worried about it, no. It's a completely absurd and very improbable notion. Indeed, I often have to remind people who are worried about it that white genocide/ethnic cleansing/whatever is a total myth and conspiracy theory. So I'm shocked when I see on lemmy somebody talk about it as though it's a real thing.
that was actually to me. But even then, assuming I'm not already engaging in real-life activism to downplay the point I was making isn't really a valid criticism of the point, but ig looking at other threads you seem to get that by now so it's w/e really.
Do you think that some far-away land with a different culture, that hates immigrants, would accept someone in just because of blood relation?
That's not the Indigenous peoples' problem. They might even think it's poetic justice for how European culture treated them. Europe, for its part, also has no right to complain about the influx of North Americans because they started this whole thing.
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Are you familiar with "moral desert"? I'm legitimately quite curious about your system of ethics. I don't really believe in moral desert myself; instead, we should try to improve the lives of everyone, and in particular increase equality and if necessary equity.
In my opinion, land back is important because it will help bring equality back into balance. It's just one of many steps to repairing society into an equitable state though. The "righting" of historical wrongs is not necessary for this; and I honestly don't think such a thing even makes sense as a concept. Should we hunt down descendents of nazis and kill them for the crimes of their ancestors?
I'm not saying that I'd necessarily agree with the expulsion of all settlers, but I'm saying it's not my place to pass judgment and if they tell me to leave, it's definitely not my place to argue why I have a right to this stolen land.
The “righting” of historical wrongs is not necessary for this
Yes it is. Some things are unforgivable and must be made right in its entirety. The people who benefited from that wrong, myself included, have absolutely zero right to comment on what that should entail.
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myself included, have absolutely zero right to comment on what that should entail
Can you please explain why you said this, then?
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous’ is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
fuck reddit
(also, this isn't even your instance.)
and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you’re currently a part of.
This would mean that like 99.9% of Earth's population has to move somewhere. Almost all land was fought over endlessly and changed metaphorical hands multiple times over. What we call "indigenous people" in a territory is usually just whoever was winning those wars before written history began.
What "landback" actually means is recognizing the systemic racism that was and still is perpetuated against the indigenous people by means of taking away their ancestral lands, slaughtering and enslaving their ancestors, and destroying their way of life; and addressing that racism by giving jurisdiction and sovereignty over their lands back to them. It doesn't mean that everyone but the indigenous people have to move out; descendants of colonizers born there are technically natives of that land too. The difference is that they get systemic advantages from their ancestry whereas indigenous people get systemic discrimination. This is the thing that ought to be addressed. (well, the horrifying economic and governance system that the colonizers brought and festered must be addressed too, but all three are tightly coupled together)
In the case of Israel the difference is that a lot of colonizers are first gen, they are not natives, they do have somewhere to "go back to", and they are actively perpetuating colonization and genocide rather than simply getting an advantage from their ancestors doing so. In such cases it of course makes sense for the decolonization effort to focus on direct expulsion of invaders.
Very few countries currently are based on native eviction, where settlers have nearly replaced the indigenous peoples. The US, canada, australia, new zealand, israel are the main ones.
I think it's projecting western colonial guilt to claim that all countries are equally based on indigenous eviction. Even colonial projects like Spain's in South America did not do to their indigenous peoples what the british did to north america.
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Colonialist Spain formally recognized in 1542 Indigenous peoples as "free vassals of the Crown" as Spaniards themselves, not slaves. Of course, as in The Mission movie portrayed, many colonialists violated the Crown's laws (Columbus himself was imprisoned for violating a Crown law from 1495 banning enslaving Taíno people). The Spanish crown wanted conversion + integration whereas British sought *erasure * of the Indigenous. But it was not just the Crown laws, individuals from Spain easily intermarried from early on, the English did not.
This distinction of the Spanish colonist vs all their norther neighbors that were far more repressive. I attribute this to the Spanish experience under Islamic rule for 8 centuries, where differences were highly tolerated and conversion was 'only' mandatory for those not considered as "peoples of the Book" mentioned on the Islamic scriptures.
To conclude, Spanish colonialism, from the Americas to the Philippines, was abusive, sometimes heavily, but the centuries later the 'civilized' British one was plainly genocidal from beginning to finish and the independent United States, continued with the legacy if not increasing it. In word of historian James Axtell: "The Spanish asked Native people to become something else [Christians]; the British demanded they vanish."
Very few countries currently are based on native eviction, where settlers have nearly replaced the indigenous peoples.
As a founding point? Yes, I agree. I also agree that colonization scale done by British was greater than anything ever done before.
However, that wasn't my point. My point was: almost everyone on Earth lives where they do because their ancestors killed or evicted the people that lived there previously. This is in particular is not unique to any western country. Hell, reading the history of Russia, my home country, makes it pretty clear that my own deep ancestry did plenty of killing and evicting too, mostly of themselves, to get to where they all ended up (not even talking about Siberia here). It wasn't at the founding point of Russia though, and none of the peoples who lost their wars are culturally alive anymore. Does it matter if all the conquest led to the foundation of a modern country, or just different tribal lands (or later city states)? I don't think it does.
I think what does matter is justice for those descendants of the colonized who are still alive, and if there's noone left, at least understanding and recognition of the horribleness that lead up to the point of your birth.
This is an extremely white washed version of land back. Pretty sure land back means full control over what happens on that land, including what kind of people can live on it, something that is currently controlled exclusively by the colonial government.
If they're feeling generous they might give you the option to stay on the condition that you assimilate into their culture.
You know, the thing Europeans forced Indigenous peoples to do. Not saying settlers should be forced through violence to do so, but I think it's more than fair that if you're going to stay, you have to assimilate.
But you're not entitled to even assimilation if they just don't want you here. And they have plenty of reason not to want you here.
I know that as a 1st gen Chinese immigrant to Canada (I came here as a kid so wasn't my choice), if all the Indigenous groups where I live unambiguously told me to GTFO. I would in good conscience have to do so and hope I can use my birth certificate to reclaim Chinese citizenship. I'm by every definition a settler so it's only fair. Whatever struggles I have in China (namely language barrier since I can barely read Chinese) I will have to deal with and it's not on the Indigenous people to let me stay just because I can't survive anywhere else.
Where you go back to and what happens to you isn't the problem of the people you colonized. And by transferring that problem on to them, you are in fact perpetuating colonialism.
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despite both groups only having that place to claim as a homeland.
Your claim isn't even close to the magnitude of their claim. They've been here for over ten thousand years. They. Own. This. Continent. And. Always. Will.
And again, we displaced them. We are the colonizing class. I am calling for the reversing of what was done to them, which necessarily includes giving them back control over the land. I'm not saying they should displace anyone, but they alone have the choice.
Instead of complaining that indigenous people don't have the right to remove you, maybe you should focus on contributing to decolonization so they have a reason to let you stay.
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where it is okay for one ethnic group to systemically displace another
Ah the old "reverse ethnic cleansing"... all you white supremacists are coming out to play.
The absolute gall of westerners whose ancestors literally did ethnic cleansing, to then yell that at their victims at the hint of returning stolen land back to indigenous sovereignty.
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As if indegenous societies never fought wars and claimed land between eachother.
Not at the scale colonialism has, no. Skirmishes and even conquest between individual tribes is fundamentally different from the systematic genocide of an entire continent's population.
Without written history, it's hard to say exactly how pre-colonial conflics in North America played out, but I've found a few sources that suggest that inter-tribe warfare can be just as bloody as any other war (as far as the technology allowed, of course). "Skirmishes between tribes" is quite an understatement.
At what scale? I'd say it's definitely closer to colonialism than it is to Indigenous wars. No doubt some Indigenous groups were capable of immense cruelty to those around them, but a continent wide ethnic cleansing is something utterly incomprehensible to even the most expansionist Indigenous groups.
Colonialism developed logistics, beauracy, and governing bodies specifically for genocide, which happened over generations. The people in charge of perpetuating it didn't even know all the people they killed, the concept of those people alone were enough to condemn them. By contrast, even the largest scale Indigenous wars had the combatants reasonably familiar with those they were fighting.
I've found a case of recorded genocidal conflict ("with intent to exerminate opposing tribe"), but it was obviously postcolonial (because there are basically no records of precolonial history). I'll note that both sides were supplied by respective colonial powers, so it could very well be considered a proxy war; however the conflict was waged by the tribes themselves, at their own will. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaver_W…
We can't forget that since the population density of America was much lower than in Europe, it's hard to compare conflicts apples-to-apples. Killing 10 individuals in a small tribe/village could exterminate nearly 10% their population; a number that would be considered devastating, quasi-genocidal if it happened between european powers.
As for your second point, it brings up a problem I have with your general argument. You argue that Indigenous conflics can be forgiven since the individuals had "no interest in waging a multi-generational genocide". I can confidently say that I, an North American with European decent, also have no interest in "waging a multi-generational genocide"; why must I be punished for it, then? Nobody gets to choose their ancestry.
(That being said, I acknowldege that systemic racism is still a very big problem today where I live, and I give my vote to whoever can reduce it the most)
I can confidently say that I, an North American with European decent, also have no interest in “waging a multi-generational genocide”; why must I be punished for it, then? Nobody gets to choose their ancestry.
The goal is not to punish anyone, nor is the goal to kick everyone out. The only goal of decolonization is to give back control of the land which was forcibly taken. Like Cowbee said, you give them the reigns, and then you let go. The logical extreme of this is that if they wanted everyone to leave, they could in theory, but that's only a logical extreme and it doesn't mean it will definitely happen. The majority of Indigenous groups make it pretty clear that's not what they want out of decolonization.
Indigenous peoples are not interested in punishing you. Most aren't even interested in having you go anywhere. They're reasonable people with empathy and compassion. The notion that you were born here not by choice is not lost on them.
I think this thread is focusing way too much on the notion that Indigenous people could force you out of their land and many people are under the assumption that they will definitely treat you worse than the current government treats you for not being Indigenous. But honestly, the way the current government treats even non-Indigenous people is absolute shit and getting worse by the day, so there's no reason not to think our lives would be better under Indigenous sovereignty.
I recommend the book The Red Deal: Indigenous Action to Save our Earth if you're interested in what decolonization looks like from the perspective of Indigenous people. They certainly don't solely think about benefiting themselves.
I have no right to say what they should do and neither do you.
Do you think all indigenous people can do whatever the fuck they want, as long as they are on their own land, and noone has any right to judge their actions?
1930s germans were indigenous people on their own land, after all.
I agree that cultural assimilation requirements and dealing harshly with white nationalists are ok; mass expulsion is not.
And I'm also pretty sure that most native Americans don't want mass expulsion, so this whole discussion is moot.
The aggressor, in the process of atoning for their atrocities, doesn't really have a right to say that the recourse proposed by the victim is unreasonable.
We are the colonial aggressors, Indigenous people are the colonized victims. I'm obviously not saying that eye for an eye doing the same to us as we did to Indigenous people is justified, but simply returning the land we stole is more than reasonable. And the logical extreme of returning stolen land is that if the rightful owners then wanted you to leave, you should.
Let's say a man and a woman live in the same house, and the man hits the woman. If the man is truly seeking to atone for his crime, and the woman tells him to move out because even seeing his face is traumatic for her, would it be reasonable for the man to complain that he has nowhere else to go? To ask the woman where she thinks he should go? To try and guilt the woman into letting him stay? If he does any of those, is he truly sorry for what he did?
You're right that most Indigenous people don't want mass expulsion. We should be incredibly grateful for that and it's a testament of their compassion and desire for equality among all people, even after all we did to them. What we shouldn't do is tell them that they can't tell us to leave or that we'd refuse to leave because we have a rightful claim to this land. Doing so is completely unproductive and will only serve to make us less deserving of staying.
First I'd like to say that I've never even been to north america, my skin colour is closer to "not ok" in the Family Guy card, and as such I'm more of a neutral observer than an active participant.
That said, the fault with your "man and woman" argument is assuming that all non-indigenous people are direct aggressors, or are directly culpable for heinous crimes against humanity.
A person cannot be culpable, and doesn't need to atone for, the crimes of their ancestors, people who share their race, or otherwise by unwillful association. The crime of most modern descendants of settlers is that of "illegal" (unjust?) immigration, no more and no less. And I don't believe it is even a crime, more of an infraction that can be rectified by learning the languages and traditions of the local population and becoming part of the community. There certainly are others who are still engaging in direct and active racism, colonization, even genocide. They deserve their own appropriate punishments, not due to their ancestry but due to their actions.
However, what descendants of colonizers definitely owe everyone else in the land is the generational, systemic wealth (land, money, property, social credit, etc) they accumulated because their ancestors robbed and pillaged it from everyone else. Giving it back doesn't necessarily mean moving out; it means giving back jurisdiction, sovereignty, and sharing the wealth in a just manner (this would probably require some form of socialism or communism).
What we shouldn’t do is tell them that they can’t tell us to leave or that we’d refuse to leave because we have a rightful claim to this land
I don't think it's about a "rightful claim" to the land. I agree that the descendants of settlers have an extremely weak claim to the land, if at all. Rather it is about basic humanity and decency. No person should be forced to move out of what they call home through no fault of their own. On the other hand any person living on someone else's land must learn the language and the culture. It is for the same reason I believe immigrants deserve help, accommodation, and local language courses rather than rejection.
You're talking to someone from .ml.
You should probably choose your battles on this one, the amount of people there that can't see double standards or hypocrisy is astounding.
Basically, read it as "you should kill yourself if you're not exactly where your ancestors lived 10000 years ago". That's what these people seem to think, they just don't want to say the quiet part out loud.
I live in a country where we have a very large amount of Russians, many of whom completely lack citizenship because they moved here during the soviet occupation so didn't get automatic Estonian citizenship after our independence, but also haven't gotten Estonian or Russian citizenship after the fact. This number has decreased over the years because most people have acquired some citizenship, but we still have tens of thousands with no state at all. I can't imagine simply deporting all of those people. In fact, we're now giving out citizenship to children of non-citizen parents who have lived in the country for at least 5 years, to avoid creating more stateless people. This is despite the fact that a lot of those people getting citizenship are also the descendants of settlers, with roots in a country hostile to our own. Those people's entire lives are here, who are we to uproot them just because we were here first? It's too late now.
Step 1: Steal something.
Step 2: Give it to your kid.
Step 3: The kid whines finders keepers, and that they shouldn't have to give it back.
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Funny, when indigenous peoples from the americas asked that question, the US settlers just killed them.
Are you really doing a "reverse ethnic cleansing" rn? Lord free me from redditors.
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Tbh if you're ever told to leave, this kind of mentality will probably be why.
Every Indigenous person I've ever met has been super nice and welcoming. They're not out for revenge like you seem to think they are. I obviously can't and shouldn't speak on their behalf, but just from my limited experience talking to Indigenous people where I live, they're perfectly willing to work with the people living here, Indigenous or not. Indigenous peoples have also been some of the first groups to advocate for the government to accept refugees, using the fact that it's their land as an argument for people from elsewhere to live here. Your strawman notion of the racist, exclusionary Indigenous person who seeks to do to white people what they did to them is just that, a strawman.
You're also working under the assumption that they will treat you worse than the current government treats you. News flash, even with white privilege, you're currently being treated like you don't have a right to the land. How much is your landlord charging you to live here? Do you have a right to a home under the current laws? No you don't. If you lose all your money, you will become homeless, and plenty of jurisdictions outright criminalize homelessness and will throw you in jail because of it.
I'm not saying it's okay or not okay to treat you like anything. I certainly don't want you to be treated badly. I'm saying it's not my place to say what Indigenous people want out of decolonization.
I admit I was being snarky in a lot of my replies because I was ticked off by your comments. You mentioned deportation and jail and I just said "yeah those are possibilities." Reading it back I can see how I should have put more nuance into this.
I should definitely have stressed this in my previous responses, but Indigenous people are naturally extremely diverse and there is no single agreed upon narrative of what decolonization will entail. There will be some Indigenous groups that only want to be left alone on their land, but there will be others that don't have a problem with anyone living on their land. You can see some of this diversity in the different Indigenous groups' views on immigration, but those views are likely different from the views they will adopt after decolonization. The notion that all the Indigenous groups will either unanimously let you stay or tell you to leave is not the correct way to think about it.
Also, Indigenous territories overlap and Indigenous people generally have more nuanced ideas of "territory" and "ownership" compared to European cultures and their strict borders for property and sovereignty. Go to native-land.ca and see for yourself. Indigenous peoples tend to focus more on mutual agreements and understanding between neighbors as to who uses what resources, agreements which are fluid and based on the needs of the people living there, as opposed to drawing lines on a map. Concepts like citizenship and deportation are based on the European framework of sovereignty, not Indigenous ones.
As to what all this entails for the settlers living here? I can't say. Everything in North America is built around colonialism and we settlers can't really imagine what it will be like for all of that to be removed with any degree of accuracy. But I highly doubt there will be large scale forced expulsions. I'd say it's more likely that the notions of property and land titles dissolve in favour of a more nuanced and community oriented approach to where people live. We will have to adopt this paradigm if we want to continue living here.
This hits the nail on the head. Settlers fear, above all, being treated anywhere near as badly as we've treated indigenous peoples, when they have been infinitely kinder. The last shall be first, that doesn't mean they will kill of us or deport all of us, but it means the decisions will be driven by indigenous people first and foremost.
It's telling of the settler mindset that they immediately assume decolonization entails being treated almost as horribly as settlers have treated indigenous peoples.
The last will be first. Landback and decolonization means putting the reigns into the hands of the indigenous people's hands, and letting go of the reigns, not just holding onto the reigns but giving the colonized people some of the reigns. The best settlers can hope for is to be treated kinder than they have treated the people whose land they stole. I myself was born in the US, and am still a settler here, just because I was born here does not absolve my role. It means I have a historic duty to help carry out decolonization and land back, from the back, not as a leading role.
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While I agree in general, there's also nuance to be had IMHO.
For example: Russian Empire colonizing Siberia was a bloody affair. Of course it was not anywhere near the atrocities committed in the new world, but still a lot of natives died due to localized warfare and disease. Do you think that when USSR formed, the Siberian peoples should have been given full sovereignty, as separate countries (not even part of USSR), and rule over themselves and the descendants of russian settlers that were left there; or was the actual solution of giving them autonomous republics within the RSFSR the better one? I lean on the latter. I think if a socialist revolution ever happens in the US, this is the way it would happen. Full jurisdiction and sovereignty for indigenous people in certain areas (they need to be much larger than current reservations, though), shared jurisdiction and sovereignty in other limited areas where descendants of settlers live. And, of course, land to the peasants, factories to the workers - I strongly suspect both casual and systemic racism will be much less of an issue once capitalism no longer burdens the working class.
The best thing you can do is just never center white people. 99.999% of the time that's the wrong way to frame your argument.
I fully understood what you were trying to say, but I can't say the responses you got are at all that surprising either.
are actively perpetuating colonization and genocide rather than simply getting an advantage from their ancestors
USAmericans are also doing this too. The overconsumption done by yankees would require multiple planet earths if everyone were allowed to consume as much as they do and the US government is guilty of exporting a capitalist system that causes climate change, not to mention the imperialism abroad. There is no functional difference between the US and Israel, just "Big Satan" vs. "Little Satan."
USAmericans are also doing this too. The overconsumption done by yankees would require multiple planet earths if everyone were allowed to consume as much as they do and the US government is guilty of exporting a capitalist system that causes climate change, not to mention the imperialism abroad.
I mentioned this as another thing that needs addressing in a timely manner.
I agree with your points entirely, it's just amusing to see the people who do disagree experience a tiny iota of the fear and despair that the indigenous peoples of America and beyond had to feel when their world was destroyed and stolen.
It is really telling that suddenly they fear for their lives once they think they will be victims of the same colonization that gave them privilege. They've internalized that this process only functions through mass slaughter and terror and start waxing poetic about "human nature"
Realistically and logistically speaking, if they were ever to retrieve their land back, the Native Americans would probably be MORE accepting of the idea to live amongst the working class that don't originate from their land rather than "evicting" the population, basic infrastructure (that's already replaced native tribes' land) would need maintenance, first of all.
The fact that it scares them that this highly unlikely scenario of reclaiming land then the Indigenous do whatever they want with it is very poetic. The fact that they've probably also imagined dramatically violent scenarios of this is also funny, funny strange.
Motherfucker, landback means the LAND which is rightfully the Indigenous' is taken BACK, and it means you GO BACK too, no one should give a fuck about which gen. you're currently a part of.
Go back to where? I've never lived anywhere else. Land back does not imply ethnic cleansing, and when you say shit like this, you marry the concepts, doing massive damage to the movement.
While OP show north america in the 1800s they failed to supply the original British mandate area from the 1920s which gives a bit perspective to the next images. Also note that while the Jewish leadership accepted the UN partition plan it was rejected by the Arab/Palestinian over and over.
And it is not a meme.
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1) How does it provide any further perspective? "They actually don't deserve their land because they were colonized by the British"?
2) Why would you expect the Palestinians to accept a plan to give half of their land away to a violent colonial expansionist ideology. Should Poland have peacefully given half their land to Germany to avoid the invasion? Do you really think that would work anyway, or is it just an excuse to blame the victims for their own genocide?
Edit: Also, since then Palestine has called for the partition borders to be enforced, and Israel/their allies were the ones to deny it. Israel only ever supported the plan as a means to an end, further colonial expansion.
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Which Poland borders?
Over the years borders are dynamic. Most of the time they are changed via wars, violent conflicts and later treaties, some more stable than others. It happen all over the world throughout history. Unless there is a large physical border, you can look at almost any part of the world and see the huge amount of border changes over the years. Focusing on just two places like the above "meme" is hypocrisy.
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ah yes the basic 'but arabs rejected the partition!' argument?
is this similar to the terrible 'all palestinians are just arabs' angle so they should just just leave and give it to colonial settlers, just because?
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I get the point but these are two very different circumstances. Israelites and Palestinians are both native to the area. Their ancestors were Canaans and Philistines. The ownership of land is the result of western powers deciding how best to divide and conquer.
Native Americans are native to the area and Europeans/Americans were not.
The vast majority of "Israelis" are 100% European whose ancestors converted to Judaism.
There's a reason Israel bans DNA tests. They want to keep up the illusion that they're still descendants of the people the Torah talked about.
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I guess it depends what counts as "native"
"no one in my family tree has any memory of the place but we have a book that says we lived there thousands of years ago" is not what most people mean when they say "native"
"Indian reservations" are concentration camps
German labor camps were obviously concentration camps
and the strategic hamlet program were concentration camps
and ICE detention centers are concentration camps
either way it is always white people and their concentration camps
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putting them on the same level as ICE centers and concentration camps
You're right they were way fucking worse than that.
Have you actually been to a reservation? And not one of the "good ones" (disgusts me to even split hairs like this) but I mean like Pine Ridge. They are literally death camps in all but name.
A couple years ago one elder was burning his own clothes to keep warm and not freeze to death, another elder died in his home because his fireplace went out while he was sleeping. Drug abuse is rampant kids are killing each other over scraps, there was a shooting at a powwow last year in the middle of sun dance. There is almost no drinking water that isn't contaminated by the nearby bombing range and uranium mines.
The average life expectancy on Pine Ridge reservation TODAY is lower than it was in Gaza before the recent bombings started.
Oh and just to get there, the tribes around the black hills were sent on a forced death march through the badlands to settle in the least desirable land in the region.
This is where they were sent:
That is literally what Rapid City is built on.
Meanwhile the average household income at Pine Ridge (not individual income, whole household) is aboud 10-13k per year.
Thank you for this knowledge, I had no idea that reservations were this bad.
Would you happen to have any books/resource recommendations for where to learn more about the actual Native American history?
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Look up DNA testing in Israel, their govt doesn't want people testing and finding out their genetic history seems to include an awful lot of eastern Europe and not anything from the Middle East.
Even Ashkenazi Jews are from Turkey, not historic Palestine.
Christian crusades followed by Islam doing what Islam is designed to do.
Mass conversion of populations are not common. It's either conquest, oppression or rebellion.
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Then it's fine to fasten a noose around the natives' neck and very gradually tighten it?
What else could you be indicating by posting about this in this context? It's true that natives were nomadic people moving through the land, but how does that make it right for europeans to come in and claim land in a permanent fashion from across the globe?
Back then the ideological split inside american settlers was between actively killing all natives or putting them into reservations to left them naturally die off over time - as they were "evolutionary obsolete". In fact the bourgeois revolution of the american landlords was started because the British tried to limit american settler expansion and the expansion of slavery into Creek and Chickasaw lands.
The idea of not killing off natives was never present in any large capacity in the early united states.
Of course they are. They are both prime examples of settler colonialism in action.
People forget that Israel started as a British colony
Isn't it fair to say that Native Americans didn't consider land to be "owned" by anyone? What colonialism (and agriculture) did was assert control over land that was previously thought to be communal.
The tragedy of the commons is a capitalist invention. Shared resources have all been managed effectively until the point where they become considered private resources.
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The government doesn't just exist in a vacuum as you seem to think. It represents the interests of those who hold power in a particular society. In the US, it is the capital owning class, and these are the people who decide to cut your healthcare, to gouge you for education, and so on. The government simply exercises their will. Entire books have been written on the subject, yet here you are confidently attempting to debate a topic you clearly haven't spent even a few minutes thinking about.
Also, if a large central government was the problem, then we'd see the same kind of shit happening in China that's happening under capitalist regimes.
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Comcast, US internet giant and service provider rolled out a “WiFi motion” feature to millions of customer routers. Once customers enable it, they’ll be able to detect motion in their homes and get notifications.Take Back Our Tech
And yes, reading through Xfinity’s privacy policy indicates they do monitor the WiFi motion data, and will share it with law enforcement or other third parties without notifying you.
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Not only is this a threat to your privacy but can impact your helath, as over-exposure to EMF has been linked to anxiety, fatigue, cancer, and many other bio-markers of poor health.
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The tech itself is interesting though. Triangulation of users indoors and outdoors is already possible
Times Square even uses it by offering free Wi-Fi. If a bunch of 50 year old white men connect to the wifi and are in the same spot, they'll put up a fishing ad or some other shi.
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Fungal infections are getting harder to treat
Fungal infections are getting harder to treat as they grow more resistant to available drugs, according to research published Wednesday in The Lancet MicrobeKaitlin Sullivan (NBC News)
Fungal infections are harder to treat because the US doctors did nothing but hand out antibiotics like they are candy, because it was an easy (no thinking involved) treatment that allowed them to spend 15 minutes or less with patience (cattle.)
However, antibiotics destroy good bacteria along with the bad, causing lots of skin conditions, fungal diseases, also immunity comes into play. Welcome to western medicine, they caused this issue.
The difference between real government and fake one illustrated by the response to floods in China and in Texas
The difference between real government and fake one illustrated by the response to floods in China and in Texas
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Trump announces 30% tariffs on European Union and Mexico
Trump announces 30% tariffs on European Union and Mexico
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For Netflix, the Srebrenica massacre is a joke - and Gaza is the sequel
Once upon a time, "Never again" was uttered with trembling sincerity. It was the mantra forged in the ashes of Auschwitz, a promise to generations unborn that the horrors of genocide would never be repeated. But today, in an age of digital spectacle and political impunity, "Never again" has become "Ever again". And we are witnessing a grotesque inversion of memory.
From the Warsaw Ghetto to Srebrenica to Gaza, the imagery of genocide - especially the suffering of children - has not only lost its sacredness, it has become fodder for mockery, comedy and the most cynical forms of entertainment. In a shocking display of insensitivity, the Dutch Netflix comedy Football Parents features a scene that compares the victims of the Srebrenica genocide to clumsy child football players, turning the Bosnian genocide into a punchline.
The Dutch state is currently being sued for failing to prevent genocide in Gaza. Meanwhile, a recent study revealed that nearly half a million Dutch citizens took part in the Holocaust. Rather than confront its violent past, Dutch media recycles it as "dark humour".
Incredibly, Football Parents mocked children's football skills by comparing them to genocide victims - a grotesque parallel to 12 April 1993, when 74 Bosnian children were killed by Serb shells while playing football on a school field in Srebrenica.
For Netflix, the Srebrenica massacre is a joke - and Gaza is the sequel
Three decades on, western states and media have turned 'Never again' into a punchline, mocking Bosnian genocide victims while enabling new atrocities against PalestiniansMiddle East Eye
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