UK Government responded to the "Repeal the Online Safety Act" Petition.
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I would like to thank all those who signed the petition. It is right that the regulatory regime for in scope online services takes a proportionate approach, balancing the protection of users from online harm with the ability for low-risk services to operate effectively and provide benefits to users.The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.
Proportionality is a core principle of the Act and is in-built into its duties. As regulator for the online safety regime, Ofcom must consider the size and risk level of different types and kinds of services when recommending steps providers can take to comply with requirements. Duties in the Communications Act 2003 require Ofcom to act with proportionality and target action only where it is needed.
Some duties apply to all user-to-user and search services in scope of the Act. This includes risk assessments, including determining if children are likely to access the service and, if so, assessing the risks of harm to children. While many services carry low risks of harm, the risk assessment duties are key to ensuring that risky services of all sizes do not slip through the net of regulation. For example, the Government is very concerned about small platforms that host harmful content, such as forums dedicated to encouraging suicide or self-harm. Exempting small services from the Act would mean that services like these forums would not be subject to the Act’s enforcement powers. Even forums that might seem harmless carry potential risks, such as where adults come into contact with child users.
Once providers have carried out their duties to conduct risk assessments, they must protect the users of their service from the identified risks of harm. Ofcom’s illegal content Codes of Practice set out recommended measures to help providers comply with these obligations, measures that are tailored in relation to both size and risk. If a provider’s risk assessment accurately determines that the risks faced by users are low across all harms, Ofcom’s Codes specify that they only need some basic measures, including:
- easy-to-find, understandable terms and conditions;
- a complaints tool that allows users to report illegal material when they see it, backed up by a process to deal with those complaints;
- the ability to review content and take it down if it is illegal (or breaches their terms of service);
- a specific individual responsible for compliance, who Ofcom can contact if needed.
Where a children's access assessment indicates a platform is likely to be accessed by children, a subsequent risk assessment must be conducted to identify measures for mitigating risks. Like the Codes of Practice on illegal content, Ofcom’s recently issued child safety Codes also tailor recommendations based on risk level. For example, highly effective age assurance is recommended for services likely accessed by children that do not already prohibit and remove harmful content such as pornography and suicide promotion. Providers of services likely to be accessed by UK children were required to complete their assessment, which Ofcom may request, by 24 July.
On 8 July, Ofcom’s CEO wrote to the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology noting Ofcom’s responsibility for regulating a wide range of highly diverse services, including those run by businesses, but also charities, community and voluntary groups, individuals, and many services that have not been regulated before.
The letter notes that the Act’s aim is not to penalise small, low-risk services trying to comply in good faith. Ofcom – and the Government – recognise that many small services are dynamic small businesses supporting innovation and offer significant value to their communities. Ofcom will take a sensible approach to enforcement with smaller services that present low risk to UK users, only taking action where it is proportionate and appropriate, and will focus on cases where the risk and impact of harm is highest.
Ofcom has developed an extensive programme of work designed to support a smoother journey to compliance, particularly for smaller firms. This has been underpinned by interviews, workshops and research with a diverse range of online services to ensure the tools meet the needs of different types of services. Ofcom’s letter notes its ‘guide for services’ guidance and tools hub, and its participation in events run by other organisations and networks including those for people running small services, as well as its commitment to review and improve materials and tools to help support services to create a safer life online.
The Government will continue to work with Ofcom towards the full implementation of the Online Safety Act 2023, including monitoring proportionate implementation.
Department for Science, Innovation and Technology
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Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
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Mastercard and Visa face backlash after hundreds of adult games removed from online stores Steam and Itch.io
Mastercard and Visa face backlash after hundreds of adult games removed from online stores Steam and Itch.io
Payment platforms demand services remove NSFW content after open letter from Australian anti-porn group Collective Shout, triggering accusations of censorshipJosh Taylor (The Guardian)
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To explore AI bias, researchers pose a question: How do you imagine a tree?
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Are people actually complying with Age Verification laws?
Are there people really whipping out their ID prior to scrolling Reddit or masturbating?
This Is a joke right? Pretend VPNs don't exist. How are citizens in these areas responding and navigating these laws in Texas or the UK?
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Poll: Which abandoned Android phone features do you miss the most?
Poll: Which abandoned Android phone features do you miss? - Android Authority
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Just Banning Minors From Social Media Is Not Protecting Them
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A Judge’s Conflict of Interest Over Jeffrey Epstein Documents
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Records Show Trump DOJ Forced to Drop Cases Against LA Protesters Due to Federal Agents' Lies
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Ha, good one. They prefer to blame everyone else.
The DNC, the New York Times reported, will “mostly steer clear of the decisions made by the Biden-turned-Harris campaign and will focus more heavily instead on actions taken by allied groups.”
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Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
Cheat Sheet Source
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Anti-Censorship Cheat Sheet
Copied from Bluesky, thought y'all might find this handy in the midst of all the NSFW stuff happening on itch.io and Steam. More info here: https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/Pop Shop Packs (itch.io)
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I don’t blame them but I also don’t see this as activism, I doubt anyone really spending the time on this cares about possible future censorship that others who are not them may face, they just want to buy their porn.
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This is not about the porn. If you think about it for more than 3 seconds it becomes obvious how this is about the power finance institutions have over morals and society and how religious groups leverage moral panics as a way to weasel in harm and destroy minorities by associating immorality with marginalized groups. Just like pro-life anti choice has nothing to do with saving children, but is about hurting women and controlling their uteruses. Terfism has nothing to do with feminism but is about hurting trans people. Drug wars weren't about protecting the youth but about destroying the rights of Hispanic and black communities. And a long list of etcéteras.
This is about defending fundamental rights that will get trampled under the guise of moral and religious righteousness. It's about power and control. Porn is just the scapegoat. Several LGBTQ+ games were also hit, many which didn't even have anything to do with sex, just because of this incident. That's how it begins and it was completely intentional, the cruelty is the point.
I just hope people continue to fight even after this one thing is resolved. Otherwise it will happen again because that’s how capitalism works
oh I see so you've decided what's going on and are now angry about that.
I'm sorry that your story version of me is letting you down. I'm not really sure what I can do about it though.
~~I've never bought a porn game nor ever played one, but I just think it's stupid that such large companies fold to a lobby organization and start moderating the sale of products.~~
~~Christian fundamentalist activists are persistent and organized, and it's effective. I think it's bad how a small minority is able to dictate the lives of other people and I like how people get riled up because I hope it will remind the people in charge of those large corporations that catering to extremists is a bad decision.~~
~~TLDR: Idgaf about the games, I just hate it when religious zealots dictate the lives of others.~~
EDIT: I might have been wrong about "Collective Shout" and didn't look into it enough before forming an opinion.
EDIT 2: Yeah, I don't think "Incest Daughters BDSM" deserves saving. They seem to be primarily targeting rape and incest games, and I can definitely understand that you want to see rape games gone from if you're an organisation like this. Article
However, I still don't know how accurate their own article is, I might check out more sources/perspectives when I have time.
There's a solid argument that most of the porn games are some form of sexual abuse. You could argue that adults should be allowed to commit fake sexual abuse but its still likely not a positive for those who consume it.
Its interesting noone here has argued for porn games, just against censorship.
Right. Most of us don't care about the porn, which is why we're not arguing for it. Most of us just don't like credit card companies being allowed to dictate what we do and don't buy.
Plus, I'm guessing anybody with an incest fetish probably understands that isn't something to go shouting to the world if they want their position to be taken seriously.
Why? Because you don't like them?
It's a perfect example, because there's nothing even close to pornographic in that game. The only possible reason would be because there's a lesbian android couple that runs off together (if you let them).
This isn't about porn games. They removed Detroit: Become Human.
If you think this will stop at porn games, then you're a fool.
Detroit: Become Human on Steam
Detroit: Become Human puts the destiny of both mankind and androids in your hands, taking you to a near future where machines have become more intelligent than humans.store.steampowered.com
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Seems like it would be a good place to start. You'd need to write the bit in order to send the output to a voip service and receive the input from the same service.
If you could get that going in a container you could spawn a bunch of them on VPSs (finding ones that have the hardware to run local AI would probably be expensive, probably better to use a hosting service if you're going to scale this).
I'm sure there are more conversation agent frameworks that people have built (it's a pretty simple loop to create), but if you wanted to get started this isn't bad.
GitHub - vndee/local-talking-llm: A talking LLM that runs on your own computer without needing the internet.
A talking LLM that runs on your own computer without needing the internet. - vndee/local-talking-llmGitHub
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I can't say for sure.
After the first one, it has become much harder to get core samples.
Hell, internet chemist here, I can say with certainty that they is chemicals...
Unless you're a family with a free energy being background?
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There's always a gap between "Someone should do something about this" and "I should do something about this".
Once that line gets crossed, plans like OP's post start.
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But how can I be expected to sign the SKG petition, while people in West Sahara live under Morocco’s unjust occupation?
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SKG is privileged western bullshit. It is a way to distract from real issues while feeling like you had an impact on something.
I just happen to have the foresight to know that 20 years from now it will sound stupid to brag that I helped change some obscure game development process for a tiny bit more convenience.
This is all absurd and a waste of time, but whatever makes people feel useful I guess.
World peace, end hunger are not entertaining as "How to get an A from your professor - sorority/fraternity party edition" (coming to iOS and Android).
You have underestimated the power of porn games.
Getting downvoted for wanting people to advocate for better living conditions, way to go .world!
Edit: Sorry for wanting people to advocate for better things, glad to know that's too much to ask.
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It's amazing that you posted this after having a fairly good explanation as to why it's not a good idea to conflate too many things together.
If you string too many things to a cause you dilute all of them. Especially because MasterCard and Visa have nothing to do with what's happening in Palestine so linking the two causes together just weakens both of them.
.world is full of children who dont understand time yet. They think everything is final, and you just need to judge a thing once. They compile lists of who is out and who is in, and make memes appropriately. They kick out anyone who doesnt fit their group.
If someone can point out the difference between middle school and .world, I'd love to hear it because I can't think of one.
I think the people using the biggest whataboutism argument I've ever seen are the ones acting like middle schoolers, but that's just me.
Feel free to make a new post listing senators' contact information, walking people through calling their senators about those issues, and giving them a rough script or an idea of what to say. That would be a hell of a lot more productive than all the whining and complaining y'all are doing in this post.
They won't, since they only want to nag and feel superior for caring "real issues".
All consumer rights aren't real issues but we still have them, SKG just wants the law to act on the companies clearly breaking it.
Those tactics are literally working this very minute. What tactics would you rather see?
Wait! Don't reply here, go make a post about it! I promise that will be more effective than continuing what you're doing here.
Because Visa and MasterCard might actually change their minds. They are a business and they don't want this shit if it becomes more annoying to deal with gamers than it is to deal with random whiny Australians they'll reverse their decision.
Trump on the other hand is made of his mind and that's the end of it. Obviously you should still continue to complain because it's hilarious how upset he gets about it, but that list is never seeing the light of day until he's out of office, one way or another.
I'd just like to point out that you seem opposed to activists bombarding a company to change its policy, but are fighting this by gathering activists to bombard a company to change its policy.
What's changing here?
Wait what?
Are you sure you responded to the right comment because I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm not opposed to bombarding any company.
Well considering GOP reps are getting 500:1 call ratio on the Epstein files people DO care this much.
It’s possible to care about multiple things at once.
Here's the summarized version:
Be Polite.
Act as if you only understand 'the effects', have a nebulous notion of 'the cause'.
Act like you know little other than this, and insist they explain it to you like you are a five year old.
Waste as much of their time as possible, without becoming hotheaded, instead become sad-confused.
"I'm not so much angry, as I am disappointed" type of vibe / energy.
And if possible, be genuinely kind to the low level, actual people you talk to, they literally do not make the rules.
This is what spammers, scammers, identity thieves, 'pig-butcherers', credit collections do.
It absolutely works.
Lol I'm on the visa line with Visa now, they have a prepared statement about this.
They are trying to say they only ever block purchases unless it's illegal.
They explicitly said they DO NOT moderate purchases unless it is illegal multiple times. I kept challenging her and saying it's not illegal, yet they moderate, but she told me she can only read the prepared statement and repeated it multiple times. She then told me I would have to email them to "share my perspective" and then hung up on me.
That is true, these are perspectives. Nobody knows the truth, only a projection if it upon their world.
It's just that by that they are claiming that it's their perspective which decides what will happen.
In other words, they are saying "so whatcha gonna do".
Corporations lie blatantly all the fucking time.
Its just that they lie in ways that usually are not able to be legally defined as some kind of a legally actionable version of a lie.
They are usually more worried with ever having outwardly admitting something that they could be sued over, than they are with any kind of human to human sense of accountability or believability.
Every, single, thing they are mass releasing or designing as an official stance has gone through some kind of legal team, or a team under a legal team that follow's guidelines from a legal team.
This is just how megacorps work.
They are not people, they are a sociopathic machine, operated by people who very much tend to be sociopaths.
Do you support incest and rape video games being globally banned from sale? I mean, I can kind of get it, its fucked up porn.
But I don't like the idea of fictional smut, even if of particularly morally questionable type of porn, gets globally banned (as long as its just fictional obviously).
What people jork their peanits/flick their bean to as long as no one was actually harmed in its production is none of my or your business.
Obviously, there is also the chilling effect of letting this censorship slide and the anti-democratic nature of payment processors being the ones enforcing this. But I suspect those are unconvincing to you and you are happy this stuff is harder to get now. Am I wrong?
When you buy a game, doesn't matter the platform, you pay for it with a credit card. The credit card companies are holding the game platform hostage, saying either they start censoring what games they sell or they lose the ability to process any credit cards for any games at all.
That is essentially holding a gun to their heads, if they can't process credit cards they can't bring in any money and they might as well just close shop and go home because their business is finished.
You can boycott steam or itch or whatever else, but they all use the same credit card processing systems- Visa, MasterCard, Discover, etc. if they start applying these policies to all game retailers, it will simply become impossible to buy any vaguely pornographic game. Period. Anywhere.
Thus, boycotting steam or itch is counterproductive. They are victims just as much as the consumers. They have no desire to ban these games, they were happily selling these games a week ago. But when they are being told 'ban a bunch of low volume games or you cease to exist as a company' that is what they do.
Thus, this phone call campaign. It is focusing on the credit card companies, the ones who are actually applying this pressure to game companies.
It is telling them we do not want them dictating what people are and are not allowed to spend money on. We do not want them to enforce morality. And if they got the impression we did, it's because a small minority made a couple of phone calls.
The idea is if 1,000 people call in and complain about the porn game, and 100,000 people call in and complain about the censorship, hopefully they will get the message.
Here's a list of MasterCard's toll-free phone numbers in various countries: mastercard.fi/content/dam/publ…
And here's the same for Visa: visa.fi/content/dam/VCOM/downl…
And the content of that file, in case that they might remove that link:
Mastercard Global Service™
Local Toll-Free Telephone Numbers
- American Samoa 1-1-800-307-7309
- Japan 00531-11-3886
- Anguilla 1-800-307-7309
- Korea, Republic of 0079-811-887-0823
- Antigua and Barbuda 1-800-307-7309
- Liechtenstein 0800-89-7092
- Argentina 0800-555-0507
- Luxembourg 800-2-4533
- Australia 1800-120-113
- Malaysia 1-800-804594
- Austria 0800-07-06-138
- Mexico 001-800-307-7309
- Bahamas 1-800-307-7309
- Monaco 0-800-90-1387
- Bahrain 8000-0087
- Montserrat 1-800-307-7309
- Barbados 1-800-307-7309
- Netherlands 0800-022-5821
- Belgium 0800-1-5096
- New Zealand 800-441-671
- Bermuda 1-800-307-7309
- Norway 800-12697
- Bolivia 800-10-0172
- Panama 001-800-307-7309
- Bonaire 001-800-307-7309
- Peru 0800-77-476
- Brazil 0800-891-3294
- Philippines 1-800-1-111-0061
- Cambodia 800-881-001 then 877-288-3891*
- Poland 0-0800-111-1211
- Canada 1-800-307-7309
- Portugal 800-8-11-272
- Cayman Islands 1-800-307-7309
- Puerto Rico 1-800-307-7309
- Chile 1230-020-2012
- The Russia 8-800-555-02-69
- China 10-800-110-7309**
- Saba 1-800-307-7309
- China 2 10-800-711-7309***
- St. Eustatius 1-800-307-7309
- Colombia 01-800-912-1303
- St. Maarten 1-800-307-7309
- Costa Rica 0-800-011-0184
- St. Kitts-Nevis 1-800-307-7309
- Curacao 001-800-307-7309
- Saipan (N. Marianas) 1-800-307-7309
- Cyprus 080-90569
- San Marino 800-870-866
- Czech Republic 800-142-494
- Saudi Arabia 800-844-9457
- Denmark 8001-6098
- Singapore 800-1100-113
- Dominica 1-800-307-7309
- South Africa 0800-990418
- Dominican Republic 1-800-307-7309
- Spain 900-822-756
- Finland 08001-156234
- Sweden 020-791-324
- France 0-800-90-1387
- Switzerland 0800-897-092
- Germany 0800-071-3542
- Taiwan 00801-10-3400
- Greece 00-800-11-887-0303
- Thailand 001-800-11-887-0663
- Grenada 1-800-307-7309
- Trinidad and Tobago 1-800-307-7309
- Guam 1-800-307-7309
- Turkey 00-800-13-887-0903
- Guatemala 1-800-999-1480
- Turks and Caicos 01-800-307-7309
- Hong Kong 800-966677
- United Arab Emirates 800-0444-3895
- Hungary 06800-12517
- United Kingdom 0800-96-4767
- India 000-800-100-1087
- United States 1-800-307-7309
- Indonesia 001803-1-887-0623
- Vatican City State 800-870-866
- Ireland 1-800-55-7378
- Venezuela 0800-1-002902
- Israel 180-941-8873
- Vietnam 120-11576
- Italy 800-870-866
- Virgin Islands, 1-800-307-7309
- Jamaica 0800-307-7309
- Virgin Islands, U.S. 1-800-307-7309
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Google Assistant Is Basically on Life Support and Things Just Got Worse
Google Assistant Is Basically on Life Support and Things Just Got Worse
Lots of Google Home users say they can't even turn their lights on or off right now.James Pero (Gizmodo)
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So Google half baked a product, pushed it to the public whether they wanted it or not, and now it's giving up on it replacing it with another half baked product nobody asked for...
Seems par for the course for Google
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As has Siri.
It used to have all kinds of plugins, like Wolfram|Alpha, that let you do fun and silly things with it.
It's simply gone downhill ever since.
The new Apple intelligence siri is arguably even worse. I tried asking it what the date would be next Tuesday, all I got back was "I don't understand".
Unintelligent Siri managed to crack that one without fault.
I put them back up a few months ago and it sure seems worse to me. Always triggering on random conversations, or to dialog on TV. Anyway they are permanent residents of the closet now. They suck.
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IIRC it's supposed to be getting better rapidly, as it's an active focus of development for Home Assistant.
That said, I thought seemed like a good guide on how to set it up as of 8 months ago. (I'm not necessarily a fan of that guy's bombastic over-enthusiasm, but the info seems good.)
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It does! I have my bedroom one controlled through it and even showing up as a play target for Spotify Connect. I've got my speakers I was plugging into my phone to play music before, or into a Raspi briefly, plugged into the 3.5mm jack on that one.
My kitchen one I just leave as-is. I DID modify the ESPHome firmware on each, extending to add an OLED (I think) clock display that also shows remaining time for timers in numbers. I do really like the LED ring animation for timers built-in though, it's pretty slick!
I wish I could get Home Assistant working with my nest minis.
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Get an ESP32, a temperature sensor, and 4x relay board and build your own with esphome!
If you pull the instructions for your thermostat, the wiring guide should tell you what each wire is for (because you can't trust wire colors). From there it's just wiring up the relays properly, getting the config built in esphome, and setting up a generic thermostat.
It sounds kinda daunting, but it's really not super complex. The only gotchas too look out for are any of the relays that can't be on when another relay is on. There's a way to prevent that in esphome. I'm sure someone has made a guide on it by now. I would have made one if I had gotten my enclosure figured out before my 3D printer took a hiatus.
I bought a Honeywell Z-Wave thermostat because I have a more complicated HVAC setup than the typical American home. It was one of the few I could find that was compliant with a home automation protocol that didn't require something that announced its existence to the Internet. It's been solidly reliable, replacing my dead Nest thermostat.
The thermostat:
Cool, I've come across this before. I have been looking for a more open thermostat, preferably esp32 based, that I can have good local control over. I have started to do the board layout for one with some air quality sensors built in.
If you don't mind me asking whats more complicated about your hvac setup? Multistage? Heat pump? Multizone?
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I ended up picking up two of the Home Assistant Voice PE devices and I've been fairly happy with them. I even extended their firmware so I have a clock display on each with one being my bedroom alarm clock even. But even out of the box functionality, as long as you can either run faster-whisper on Home Assistant (or another box), or don't mind their lighter device-control-only route, is totally solid.
Plus music streaming to them (with an external speaker attached via the 3.5mm jack) is pretty good!
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As I understand it, Google mostly ships new stuff that they let die because it's one of the only ways to get a promotion at Google - to ship a product.
Once shipped, the newly promoted staff moves on to something else, and the business people take a look and see if the product actually makes any sense from a financial perspective, which is rarely the case.
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You got to love the author of that article. If you want the lights to turn off and on normally, maybe people should use light switches. Those aren't going to break due to software downgrades, those don't require Gemini or internet connections.
And I understand, there are rare situations when throwing the internet at your home appliances can make sense for solving niche problems. Those situations definitely exist, but for almost everyone almost all of the time, but it's pretty fucking easy to turn lights off and on.
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These just dont need to be online. 90% of the use I have seen is timers and lights, like a half step above hello world.
There is a market for voice assistants that are local.
I did see something recently about local LLMs and voice input layers. The post made it seem very Jarvis like, think it may have been the voice used or the name.
Knowing nothing about tech other than I want my privacy I am hoping it is feasible for the common man
There's a mode for voice control that is even friendly to a Raspi 4 or 5, but it's very simplistic in control, basically a super lightweight speech to text trained only on device names and aliases. Think the speech to text in late 2000s through early 2010s non-smart phones.
Small models for faster-whisper will run on even my little Dell Micro i5-6500T that I have Home Assistant running on, it's just a little bit slow, but it absolutely works and is usable speed! I run a larger model currently offloaded to my server, which has an RTX 2070 Super in it, but that's to make it perform more like how Google used to a long time ago, and it's unused power most of the time.
They're trying to make it as accessible as possible for sure. There's even options to use cloud STT and TTS (they even include it in the Home Assistant Cloud optional feature), but it's definitely cool as hell to be able to talk to an open-source-design speaker and get a reply and control any switches or lights or even my thermostat and robo vacuum without needing the Internet to work. As long as my Wi-Fi and HA box are up, I've got options!
It has several modes. The most basic is speech to text, pattern match, then implement. It also has text to speak for feedback. No actual AI in the loop.
It's also capable of tying to AI models in various ways. It's mainly intended for question answering. Either general, or about your data.
I personally don't trust a non-deterministic AI having direct control of my house, so the split is useful.
We have leak sensors in the basement brewery and sockets that help the hubs ADHD and anxiety (did i forget to turn X off? I shall check my phone), all running through a HA server. A mate has literally programmed in migraine protocols.
Automation ain't bad. Capitalism is what the haters are angry at. Wish they'd go shit on that instead of stupid commentary about laziness.
Long time google assistant user, but them putting Gemini in it is what I'm afraid of, not the solution.
This is yet another "google released a product, didn't know what to do with it, and made zero updates over the last decade, so now they're killing it." I don't think they've ever fixed the bugs that existed the first day I bought mine. The speaker is handy for casting to, but also cast is a shitty non-open protocol.
Kinda just agree with the "everything in this space sucks" unfortunately.
My how things have changed over the years! Why, when I was a young girl, we didn't have the internet. When we wanted to turn a light on, we had to write a letter to Ford Motor Co. (They were the tech of the day.) I'd write, "Dear Mr. Ford, please give us permission to turn on our light in the dining room." Of course then we'd have to find a stamp, then walk the letter down to the nearest post office. (That was faster than waiting for the mailman to pick it up from the neighborhood mail box.) Sure enough, 6 weeks later we'd receive a reply saying, "Fine, turn on the light in the dining room." The postman delivered mail in the morning, so we had to wait until dark to all gather around in the dining room and turn on the light with great ceremony.
We never understood why we needed to get permission from a company far away to turn on a light switch, but we were patriotic Americans, so we knew better than to question the process.
Enshitification...
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[Announcement] Path of Exile 2 Boss Rush Event at PAX West
The Path of Exile 2 Boss Rush Event is coming to PAX West on August 29! Kill as many bosses as you can in 20 minutes, and win some cool prizes.
Choose between 7 preconstructed character builds, one for each class, then see how many bosses you can kill. Before each boss are a few packs of monsters so you can test out your skills, before getting to the main event. Then throw yourself at the boss for as many attempts as it takes to bring it down.
After you kill the boss, a portal will open up to the next arena, and the level of all subsequent bosses will increase. There are 15 bosses in all, we highly doubt you can kill them all!
Above the booth will be a live leaderboard featuring the top Exiles able to kill the most bosses in the shortest period of time.
If you're planning to visit the expo - in between playing the new content update for Path of Exile 2 launching the same weekend - make sure to check out our booth! All visitors will have the chance to earn Path of Exile 2 merchandise prizes depending on how many bosses you can kill.
- When - August 29 - September 1
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Tea app leak worsens with second database exposing user chats
The Tea app data breach has grown into an even larger leak, with the stolen data now shared on hacking forums and a second database discovered that allegedly contains 1.1 million private messages exchanged between the app's members.
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Women’s ‘red flag’ app Tea is a privacy nightmare
Women’s ‘red flag’ app Tea is a privacy nightmare
Selfies were hacked and posted on 4chan. Now, private messages were breached.Tanya Tianyi Chen (The Verge)
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it seems its an app that helps women flag potential dating candidates as being dangerous or red flags.
there is the potential for doxxing that comes with that, but I can absolutely understand its use and need when not abused in that manner.
i wonder if there's the potential for a different app with more encryption and a way to prevent doxxing and abuse.
There's definitely a use case, but there's an inherent power imbalance to these products that makes sure they will always be misused. The submitters are anonymous, and it's up to the person being reported on to prove the accusations are false.
Or, they're supposed to be anonymous.
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it’s up to the person being reported on to prove the accusations are false.
The person doesn't even know they're mentioned in the app.
Which is even worse, because unless someone tells them, they're blissfully unaware.
With most forms of Libel, at least the victim will see it in a timely manner.
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I have the solution. Nobody's gonna like it, everybody here is gonna scream at me about it, but I have the solution.
Stop dating strangers on the internet.
The entire personals site/dating app experiment we've been running for the last quarter century is obviously a categorical failure. Humans just don't work like this.
Things have gotten so much worse since I was in high school. When I was in high school, the community of girls available to me to ask out were pretty much all girls I'd known since we were 5. A lot of them, I didn't have to wonder about their character, their intentions, their capacity to do harm, I was there when all that was written. I remember how much of a bully Chelsea was in middle school, I remember how nice Ashley was to everyone, I remember how Justine seemed weirdly infatuated with me in the 4th grade. They'd all remember stuff about me and the other boys. We graduated high school, I never saw 80% of them ever again, and within 5 years that figure climbed to at least 95%. Four years of college with mostly abject strangers who you're weirdly fast to form and break deceptively deep bonds with, all of whom I've also lost track of, and then the adult world in which everyone including you is an NPC.
I happen to be the exact age where, I got out of college in 2007, I disappeared into work, like I went to the airport and I went home for two years. In 2009, I looked back up and everything had CHANGED. Instant messaging was on smart phones now, and you WERE NOT TO approach women in person, only through phone-based dating apps and you had BETTER FUCKING NOT already be acquainted.
Don't talk to women at the grocery store. Don't talk to women at the gym. Don't talk to women at the library. Don't talk to women at your work. Don't talk to women at their work. Don't talk to women at the coffee shop. Don't talk to women at the bar. Don't talk to women at the club. Don't talk to women. No woman, only app.
How do you meet more women? Oh that's categorically the wrong question because having the goal of meeting women in the first place is creepy. Stop wanting to meet women and instead organically decide you want to do things that women happen to like, and then accidentally meet women in the course of doing those things. You know, at those meetups that are always happening on a recurring basis, that aren't advertised to happen at a place and time and then no one shows up and the listing is never re-posted. Probably just install more apps.
It's been women driving this, men vastly prefer asking women out from within their social circle. The pressure to make the first move is still on men, and he'd rather ask out women he already thinks he might like. Women on the other hand vastly prefer to be cold approached by a charming stranger.
I think it's gone far enough when we've got women saying dumb shit like "Systematically doxxing and libeling men is a risk we're just going to have to take."
Good lord, please tell me you did not just use ted bundy to describe what you think women like in men?
also did you just lore dump to a complete stranger? we're having a casual conversation.
i never said anything as insane as "Systematically doxxing and libeling men is a risk we're just going to have to take". i said doxxing should be avoided, if you'd read any of my comments.
who is this long winded comment for, exactly?
please tell me you did not just use ted bundy to describe what you think women like in men?
I did, because he was. Two different ways.
- Bundy's modus operandi was to approach women in public as a handsome, charming stranger. I'm pretty sure women like handsome, charming strangers; the entire female dating strategy seems to be geared toward attracting handsome, charming strangers. Ted Bundy was able to attract dozens of victims like that. There's an inherent danger in attracting strangers, because sometimes strangers are psychopaths.
- Ted Bundy got a LOT of fan mail from women while he was in prison. Love letters, marriage proposals, nude photos. A shocking number of women saw his picture on the news alongside words like "murder trial" and "death sentence" and said "That's the man for me." He pulled some weird stunt to "get married" and he fathered a child from prison. This isn't unique to Ted Bundy, lots of mass murderers and serial killers have groupies, from Charles Manson to Dylan Klebold.
i said doxxing should be avoided, if you’d read any of my comments.
You came across as pretty lukewarm to me. "Yeah doxxing is a problem I guess." You can't have a Don't Date Him Girl website without doxxing. Doxxing is how they work.
skipped everything about ted bundy cause wtf you're obsessed, man. maybe join a bundy dating app?
also let me make it clear since you missed it last time (even though you quoted it). I think doxxing is bad and should be avoided. fuck's sake man. i am a commenter, not a politician. i read this stuff over breakfast. take it easy ffs.
not everything has to be a huge debate.
i wonder if there’s the potential for a different app with more encryption and a way to prevent doxxing and abuse.
Encryption, sure.
Preventing doxxing? I highly doubt it. But hey, it's women doing it so it's ok and anyone who criticizes that is an incel.
i wonder if there's the potential for a different app with more encryption and a way to prevent doxxing and abuse.
You would have to have everyone take a polygraph or something (not that they actually work but a lot of people don't know that so maybe it would prevent them from lying in the first place). There's no way to prevent people from lying for whatever reason they have and there's no way to detect whether or not the thing they have posted is truthful.
The truth is as much benefit as the app may have when used properly the risk of abuse is far too high for it to ever be workable.
If you have a smoke alarm in your house that occasionally explodes and sets your house on fire, but the rest of the time actually works as a fire alarm, then it's not a useful product, as even if the chance of it exploding was less than 1% it would still eventually blow up your house, whereas if you never installed the alarm there was every possibility your house will never catch fire. So game theory suggests that you are better off without it.
Same with this app, sure it might prevent you experiencing a bad date but there's every possibility that it will also cause you not to date somebody who's actually a nice person. You are far better off just making that judgement yourself as you always did. And to be clear given human nature, the likelihood of the "fire alarm exploding" is probably a lot higher than 1%
Yeah, the entire point of the app is that you go there and talk about the bad things a person has done.
That seems pretty hard to identify them without posting their image without their consent and discussing private details of their life so others can identify them. It is creepy as hell, at a minimum.
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off the top of my head, I don't know. i just feel the concept is intriguing and that the idea is a nice one.
just the abuse potential is far too high I suppose. but it would be nice to know if someone had stalked someone else, may have spoken or behaved in a violent manner, etc.
but I suppose at that point you might as well fingerprint and process any potential suitors lol. 😅
the sentiment is great, however.
I am going to say with even the downsides I think the idea is worth it.
My friend sucks to her creeps and maybe she could have saved herself from at least two abused cases.
Maybe like light system based around how often and how a users submits. This person submits a lot of negative responses red light.
This person submits rarely green light?
The problem is also how much data do we really want to keep? How little can we keep?
Meowmeowbeans social pressure where people will refuse to meet or associate with people who have not been vetted and verified by meowmeowbeans members. So people who want to meet meowmeowbeans users would have to join to get screened otherwise they can get lost.
Solves the issue of people who never signed up to the social media site having strangers uploading personal photos, videos, names, and stories to a profile page they never consented to. Which is reminiscent of doxing in its current state.
So meowmeowbeans certification among consenting members would be the better route to go and socially making those not in meowmeowbeans outcasts. At least there is choice now for people to not be part of the community driven database of people.
You could easily convince me that it was a brilliantly executed honeypot. It's just too damn poetic.
"It's a women's safety app" No it wasn't. This app was about women's safety as much as the recent payment processor porn game censorship bullshit was about child safety. This was about slandering men for fun because women love gossip. The app's name was "Tea."
Not a single woman who signed up for this app stopped to think, "Here's a brand new app, just came out, has no track record, no reputation. I don't know who runs this. I don't know how they secure their database. I know what they're asking, they want a picture of my government-issued ID. We've spent the last two decades reading news headlines of the pattern "tech company was hacked, 2.2 million users compromised including emails, home addresses and SSNs" on a weekly basis. There hasn't been a week gone by since Dubya was president that hasn't happened."
The women who uploaded pictures of their IDs to some app really had their own safety in mind. Turns out you can short circuit that whole process with hilarious ease if you say things like "women only" and "slander your exes."
I don't think I could have constructed a better example as to why all the recent "prove your identity" shit is comprehensively retarded.
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Change the target to any other group and the outrage would be 100-10000 fold bigger.
Try it out, instead of Women rating men, try subbing in various minority groups or races.
Bonus points for the most offensive combinations.....
e.g. Russians rating Ukrainians in your area....it can get pretty bad...I can think of many worse combos.
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Interesting analogy. You realize you have it backwards, right? Women are the Ukrainians on this scenario.
I think the key reason this was seen as not being terribly offensive was the fact that women are disproportionately more likely than men to be on the receiving end of tons of different negative consequences when dating, thus to a degree justifying them having more of a safe space where their comfort and safety is prioritized.
However I think a lot of people are also recognizing now that such an app has lots of downsides that come as a result of that kind of structure, like false allegations being given too much legitimacy, high amounts of sensitive data storage, negative interactions being blown out of proportion, etc. I also think that this is yet another signature case of "private market solution to systemic problem" that only kind of addresses the symptoms, but not the actual causes of these issues that are rooted more in our societal standards and expectations of the genders, upbringing, depictions in media, etc.
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I was making the point, that despite the fact that this is mildly ok. The test for anything that gives one group power over another, is to switch the groups.
If it's still reasonable, than it is probably OK to keep it. If however it seems wrong after the switch, the bar to keep the power imbalance should be very high.
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That's a very superficial test that deliberately omits the social and historical context that makes sense of these categories. You can't just insert one party for another in statements about a relationship where one side has more power and privilege than the other, and look at your feelings about the result to evaluate the statements. White people have historically mistreated everyone else and robbed them of freedom and power. Men have historically abused women. To say "let's swap the words and see how we feel then" is not a reasonable way of evaluating statements about the relationships between these groups.
What this article says about the importance of entrenched power structures in racism also holds true about the relations between men and women:
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Reverse racism is a myth that ignores systemic power dynamics. Explore why racial prejudice towards white people isn't true racism.Alberta Civil Liberties Research Centre (ACLRC)
You can, and do.
It helps set the bar, it is a tool for determining how to assess what level of imbalance is reasonable.
It's not the only tool, nor an I arguing for it to be.
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I’m always reminded of the fact that women on dating sites rate 80% of the men as below average….
And the dating advisors who have written numerous articles about how women don’t really know or aren’t really honest with themselves about what they are looking for in a partner….
That was ONE OKCupid survey from years ago, and it also showed that women were more likely than men to message people they didn't rate as attractive.
In reality, women and men rate male facial attractiveness about the same. datepsychology.com/can-women-i…
Can Women Identify An Average Face? - Date Psychology
People often confuse average with "neither attractive nor unattractive," but an average face may also be unattractive. How well can people identify the average?https://datepsychology.com/author/alexander/#author (Date Psychology)
Stats depend on perception. Where a woman reports abuse, a man often spends an evening drinking or something similar. Not reporting abuse.
Expectations of men are too somewhat cruel. You should be grenadier-tall (or gorilla-wide, point being, you should look fit), with facial features like those of Kianu Reeves, with voice like that of Orlando Bloom, confident like some CEO, honorable like a samurai from some movie, yet able to override that honor at her whim and do any atrocity to make the world better for her. Like some picture of 1930s' propaganda.
If you don't deliver, then she silently pities herself and silently looks down at you for that. But God forbid you seem like that picture in some regard and then inevitably turn out to be more human, that deceit she won't forgive.
It was a problem a century ago that women were mostly right-wing and chauvinist and traditionalist. Most of that has been undone, but not how women in average see gender relations.
OK, so about the app - I won't be surprised if it was an intentional honeypot, honestly, to expose those who will use it. And it's a bad idea, there's no way to verify anonymous accusations, which means it's a tool for defamation of any man, and a way to discredit things of the kind written there at the same time.
I agree. High standards and common ideas of "right" are generally present among people insecure and easily gaslighted.
Such as those that would use this app. Point?
Nothing about gender wars here.
Just because Facebook is shit, doesn't make this any better.
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I'm sorry but I'll just say it out right: new feminists are the absolute worst
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality where possible. Where isn't equality possible? Well I'd like to conceive a child, but the plumbing isn't exactly useful for that. That sort of thing. Beyond that, were all the same, and IDGAF about your skin color, sexual preferences or whatever. I live by live and Let live, don't be an asshole, it's not that hard to be respectful
New feminists though are the ones coming up with ideas like this website. On the surface, anyone could say that it's not a bad thing to have a place for women to talk about how to protect themselves. In reality though, it's a place where men, innocent or not, get doxxed and made to be rapists.
There are some subs here on Lemmy as well that were very sad to see this shitshow of a website go, lamenting the fact that now they need a different place to dex people. Try not to tell them that doxxing is bad, it gets you banned.
Tea was storing its users’ sensitive information on Firebase, a Google-owned backend cloud storage and computing service.
Every time. With startups, it's always an unsecured Firebase or S3 bucket.
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A lot of people have speculated that.
According to their statement their code was written in Feb/2024 and predates "vibe coding"
Official statement from Tea on their data leak
Tea is a dating safety app for women that lets them share notes about potential dates. The other day it was subject to a truly egregious data leak caused by …Simon Willison’s Weblog
What intrigue me is this:
I'm confident vibe coding was not to blame in this particular case,
So they used vibe coding, they are only saying that they think/hope that it is not the cause of the break (and maybe also of the second one)
And if vvibe coding is not caused then they are even more incompetent.
It's a little more complex than that. If you want the app on the user device to be able to dump data directly into your online database, you have to give it access in some way. Encrypting the transmission doesn't do much if every app installation contains access credentials that can be extracted or sniffed.
Obviously there are ways around this too, but it's not just "use TLS".
Encrypting the transmission doesn't do much if every app installation contains access credentials that can be extracted or sniffed.
Encrypt the credentials then? Or OAUTH pipeline, perhaps? Automated temporary private key generation for each upload (that sounds unrealistic, to be fair)? Can credentialing be used for intermediary storage that encrypts the data on that server and then decrypted on the database host?
Clearly my utter "noobishness" is showing, but at least it's triggering a slight urge to casually peruse modern WebSec production workflows. I am a DNN researcher. Thus, I am far removed from customer-facing production environments, and it shows.
Any recommendations on literature or articles on how engineers solve these problems in a "best practices" way that you can recommend? I suppose I could just look it up, but I thought I'd ask.
Edit: I don't know why I'm down-voted. My questions were sincere.
You've got the right ideas. Noone should ever be storing any password in plaintext. It should always be hashed and only the hash stored. That's like WEBDEV99 (remedial course, not even 101).
Really. Despite your stated "noobishness", you basically landed in the territory of best practices right of the bat.
If you're looking for a good source of best practices, the CIS benchmarks are great. cisecurity.org/
CIS Center for Internet Security
CIS is a forward-thinking nonprofit that harnesses the power of a global IT community to safeguard public and private organizations against cyber threats.Center for Internet Security
Brother, I need the "remedial" lessons since I self-host a lot of my experimental DNN solutions on a GPU cluster served via CasaOS/Ubuntu-Server LTS.
I've followed basic tutorials about nginx, end-to-end encryption, and DNS, but I need more knowledge and training about the theory behind modern security best practices. I think I'm doing okay but I have this ever-present anxiety that I've overlooked something and my ass (i.e., sensitive data) is really just hanging out in the wind.
Thank you for your recommendation.
Wouldn't some sort of proxy in between the bucket and the client app solve this problem? I feel like you could even set up an endpoint on your backend that manages the upload. In other words, why is it necessary for the client app to connect directly with the bucket?
Maybe I'm not understanding the gist of the problem
SSL is not the tool you need in this case, although you should obviously already be running exclusively on encrypted traffic.
The problem here is one of access rights - you should not make files default-available for anyone that can figure out the file name to the particular file in the bucket. At the very least, you need to be using signed URLs with a reasonably short expiration, and default all other access to be blocked.
As I mentioned in other comments, I am a noob when it comes to web-sec; please forgive what may be dumb questions.
Is it really just permission rights "over-exposure" issue? Or does one need to also encrypt and then decrypt the data itself that must be sent to a database?
Also, if you have time, recommend any links to web/cloud/SaaS security best practices "for dummies"?
My hey we’re probably using Firestore as their database without authenticating their api calls to firebase functions. Basically leaving their api endpoints open to the public Internet.
They could have connected service account and used some kind of auth handshake between that and generate a temporary login token based on user credentials and the service account oauth credentials to access the api. but they probably just had everything set to unauthenticated
I get doing that in Dev for testing before launch, but in production? that’s insane.
Like it has to either be a junior developer playing the role of lead or some serious lack of web dev fundamentals haha
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It was defamation the entire time just because somebody made it an app rather than a Facebook group doesn't make any difference. It was always a crap thing to do.
Of course Tea took it to an entirely new level of stupid.
Considering even the mere accusation can ruin someone's life? Yes.
The problem isn't women don't deserve to be safe, the problem is we cannot just give people powerful weapons with no oversight or burden of proof to be deployed simply because a date didn't go well.
Facebook or App, the danger is too great
Wow just two days ago I see a post about how Lemmy is dominated by men and how that could become a problem, and today I see a comment section where all the incels come out of the woodwork.
"waaa somebody wants to solve a problem that has never affected me I'm the victim"
"omg what if people talk behind my back they might find out I'm an asshole? literally 1984"
"wadabout if this app was racist?!? checkmate"
I'm not saying this app is good or bad (I can definitely see the problems) but if an article about cybersecurity gets posted and this is our first reaction, makes me lose hope in Lemmy.
Edit: Responses have made very good points and I think I was off, thanks guys. I still think some of the early comments I encountered were rather reactionary
“waaa somebody wants to solve a problem that has never affected me I’m the victim”
Everyone has the problem that they'd want to discuss others behind their back. It's not accepted because it doesn't work to any good end.
“omg what if people talk behind my back they might find out I’m an asshole? literally 1984”
You won't find out anything from this. People sometimes lie, especially in such situations.
but if an article about cybersecurity gets posted and this is our first reaction, makes me lose hope in Lemmy.
Human adequacy is a big part of cybersecurity.
i mean...an app directly copying a black mirror episode (but almost exclusively targeting a specific demographic) does ring some very, VERY loud alarm bells...
like, this is literally the plot of nosedive.
it's a social credit system.
and none of the people even know they HAVE a score, so it's somehow even worse than the fictional scenario.
this will, absolutely, hurt innocents and it will do so by design.
"fuck them innocents!"...just because they happen to be men?
how is that anything other than misandrist?
how is that defensible?
how is doxxing, mass libel, and targeted harassment a solution to sexism and rape culture?
I'd be really interested in hearing anything about how this is supposed to help women, because i struggle to see how sowing massive, unearned distrust between men and women is going to make anyone any safer...
I'm really, REALLY glad that the GDPR would nuke this sort of nonsense from orbit...uploading pictures of strangers, for the explicit purpose of gossiping about them behind their backs, spreading awful rumors?
what. the. actual. fuck. is wrong with you people?
and i don't mean women, or men: i mean americans and their total disregard for privacy and digital safety. what the hell...
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You make a valid point, this platform absolutely shits on anyone without technical knowledge, just look at the hundred or so smug replies telling you what flavor of Linux they run if you mention a problem with Windows. So, no surprise everyone is focusing on that, and not the human aspect here.
Having said that, there is a power imbalance to this that I really don't like, the accuser gets to hide behind a veil of anonymity, and the accused has their name published, and is forced to defend themselves.
So, no surprise everyone is focusing on that, and not the human aspect here.
This is a technology community and the article is specifically about a security breach that exposed massive amounts of sensitive user data.
It's an antisocial surveillance system for antisocial people, and creates a(n even more) antagonistic relationship between men and women.
Dating apps have been a disaster for dating, and this is perhaps the worst among them.
Citation of course needed with that one.
The only people who will be listed on the app are people who are either deserving they've been on there or people who don't deserve to be on there but some woman in their lives has decided to inact some vengeance justified or otherwise.
It can be both.
So many problems are caused because society assumes cisgender women are always victims and anything that looks like a man if you look at it long enough is an abuser.
I feel that the app filled a need of women we should not ignore. But the app, both this specific app and also the overall concept, is just too rife with downsides to be workable.
So we, as men and as society need to reevaluate why women feel the need for such an app, and reinvest in the criminal justice system to hold victimizers more accountable.
It’s okay to call this app and similar Facebook groups unacceptable. But that’s not enough, we must also call for stronger protections for victims of criminal behavior.
It would be interesting to see something similar that required accusations to be backed up with evidence. Police reports, court proceedings and results, news articles etc.
It would also be a lot safer, legally speaking, for the service provider.
Something like Megan’s law but for domestic violence. I’m still not thrilled with the potential for abuse, but at least it wouldn’t be hearsay.
I’m sure the police unions would object, for obvious reasons.
The criminal justice system... At this point any more investment is just a waste.
That said, we're being shortsighted. The criminal justice system is far too corrupted and easy to pervert. It has way too many levers the powerful can exploit to get away with almost anything. The powerful want it that way, so the government wants it that way, and so thats the way it is. We need to burn it ALL down. And relying on naive public satiating actions like useless protest, or the belief that this can be all be fixed though voting, when shit is this far-gone, is counterproductive.
I think of the "bad" dates I would want to be able to warn other women of that didn't rise to the level of calling the cops. The guy who ordered triple the food and drinks I did and skipped out on the bill. The guy who flat out lied about multiple things and then got irate when I politely excused myself from the date. The MAGA weirdo who went on an unhinged rant about how I needed to submit to him because God said so. I imagine some men have comparable experiences with some anti-social women. The experiences coming to mind were not illegal, but were absolutely things I want to spare my fellow humans from.
I would prefer the dating apps themselves have some mechanism for disincentivizing anti-social behaviors. It would have to be more than a simple 5-star rating.
I wonder how it would work IRL to offer the ability to write a few sentences in response to prompts about a date. The written review is not published as-is, but is used in grouping of many reviews to give a summary about a person. Like the summary product reviews on Amazon now. "Bill's dates found he was prompt and polite. Some dates expressed discomfort at some of his political views" and "Bob's dates warn he is often late and is quick to use foul language to describe women. Multiple dates report no intention to communicate with Bob further". "Ben's dates report he has skipped out on the bill repeatedly, and sends unsolicited dick pics. Multiple dates have blocked him".
The group summary gives a buffer so the person reviewed doesn't know which specific date said what. And ensures the summary doesn't include negative comments about a person unless multiple dates of theirs independently report similar experiences.
Of course a bad actor could ditch their dating profile and start fresh any time they build up enough negative reviews to make their summary look bad. And of course the reviews and the summaries would have to be secured tighter than "Tea" is.
The experiences coming to mind were not illegal, but were absolutely things I want to spare my fellow humans from.
What about a guy who had a panic attack in the very beginning and couldn't stop talking about his deceased dad, then about aunts and uncles, then about the dog, then about architecture, then didn't get the hint because of all the shaking, got petrified when hinted at an alcohol element in the continuation of the meeting and in the end didn't even understand a very direct hints at "only silence can save this" and having at least a sleepover?.. Who only became kinda normal after taking a sedative next morning, still shaking.
Just describing one negative experience I have provided in the past, and that while yeah, it wasn't too cool - maybe lifelong shame is not what I deserve for that ...
(Yes, I know that girl was a hero)
The group summary gives a buffer so the person reviewed doesn’t know which specific date said what. And ensures the summary doesn’t include negative comments about a person unless multiple dates of theirs independently report similar experiences.
That can't be done without somehow verifying identities of all the people involved. Unless the review app is the same as the dating app. Then there are various technical variants, like some cryptographic connection between the reviewed person's identity, the token representing one date, and a temporary identity for the reviewer, used to sign the review message. Something like that.
But that only for the entity doing the summary, which will have to be trusted with the original reviews. And that "buffer" will remove any kind of verification, unless it's something egghead-smart like a smart contract forming the review on every client, which means every client can also see the original reviews. So I dunno.
Of course a bad actor could ditch their dating profile and start fresh any time they build up enough negative reviews to make their summary look bad. And of course the reviews and the summaries would have to be secured tighter than “Tea” is.
Honestly things like this should work like some hybrid of Briar and Freenet. Just entrusting it to a centralized service is as stupid as using Facebook. And in this specific case Briar model is kinda fine - if you synchronize with everyone using the application. You don't need to have the reviews from everyone about everyone, just about people roaming the same general area.
Billionaire Peter Thiel backing first privately developed US uranium enrichment facility in Paducah
A California-based company with ties to billionaire investor and Trump ally Peter Thiel announced plans Friday to build America’s first U.S.-owned, privately developed facility to enrich uranium in far western Kentucky.In an email sent to WKMS, General Matter said that the company intends to make a “historic investment in American nuclear infrastructure” by restoring a shuttered facility in Paducah. The gaseous diffusion plant in McCracken County, which ceased operations in 2013, was built by the U.S. government in the 1950s to bolster national defense efforts – and later to generate fuel for nuclear power plants.
Oh wow, good to see California and Kentucky working so closely together these days on so many important things.
Massie, Khanna hammer Republican leadership for thwarting Epstein transparency push
It just goes to show that no matter who you are, Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal, we can all come together over as ~~recipients of Thiel money~~ Americans.
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Why do all y'all jump to nukes with this story!? He clearly wants more power for his AI schemes. No conspiracy, the motivation is simple.
U235 enrichment:
Power plant: 3-5%.
Weapons grade: 90%+
Even a bugfuck administration like Trump's isn't going to allow private enterprise to produce weapons-grade fissile material without serious fucking oversight and total control over every step. Why would any government give up their most powerful weapons?
On top of that, it takes hella tech to assemble a thermonuclear weapon. Every government that has a solid intelligence apparatus tracks the tools, scientists and materials involved. An atom bomb is not a hydrogen bomb, not by an order of magnitude, and you can't exactly hide the means for rolling your own Little Boy.
Not trying to bag on you OP, just feel like I'm taking crazy pills when we think a billionaire could get access to nukes.
Ever read Clancy's The Sum of all Fears? Even having obfuscated some facts, building a nuke is simply impossible without every intelligence agency on Earth knowing about it.
Terrorists dropping a "fizzle" on the Super Bowl required many narrative acrobatics. 1,532 things had to go wrong for them to slip that through. And it still fizzled.
Are we still talking about nuclear?
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Martyr for what? You have to deeply stand for something very popular (amongst a group of people with beliefs) that is very unpopular with another group. Of all the people in the world, Peter is not running the risc of becoming a martyr - dead or alive.
I see this mistake as a comment more and more often. I'm not saying anything on him remaining alive or not; that's a completely different set of questions.
I just mean victimhood is usually the go to for far right assholes, and all assholes really. Especially the ultra wealthy ones who have the money and influence to spin the truth into whatever they want. Like you leave them no choice but to be even more evil the next time.
I could totally see whoever comes in his footsteps saying some shit like, "You saw what they did to Thiel. I had to crack down early on to protect myself."
Thiel is all-in an AI. AI requires monstrous amounts of power. Nothing to see here.
I can't stop these animals from pursuing AI, but I'm happy they're going all out for nuclear power. Anything but fossil fuels is a win in my book.
You Went to a Drag Show—Now the State of Florida Wants Your Name
You Went to a Drag Show—Now the State of Florida Wants Your Name
If you thought going to a Pride event or drag show was just another night out, think again. If you were in Florida, it might land your name in a government database.Electronic Frontier Foundation
The age-gated internet is here: Goodbye, online anonymity.
The end of online anonymity? Age checks spread worldwide.
The age-verification rule isn't aimed solely at sex sites, but at any digital entity where racy content or other "harmful" speech could be found.Elizabeth Nolan Brown (Reason.com)
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in reply to themachinestops • • •Feels like we're going back to the 90s/00s "Christian parents against video games" moral panic era. But this time, they're being appeased more heavily.
I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.
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in reply to Echo Dot • • •Ugh... This shit again....
The fucking Bible is FULL OF FUCKING HATE. Hate for women, hate for blacks, hate for gays, hate for the "other".
I'm really sick of people trotting out two lines from that book of fairytales and doing a pikachu face "how could people read this and be evil?!?"
Easily, because the Bible is filled with vile shit. Because it's made up bullshit that let's you argue every side of every point because it's a amalgam of garbage written by idiots with the occasional line of wisdom sprinkled in.
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in reply to kungen • • •Remember that Discover is self-banked (unlike Visa/Mastercard that banks sign up with). This means that every credit line needs to be backed by... well ... A bank.
Bigger banks mean more credit opportunities, better interest rates (etc. etc). Deeper credit lines.
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in reply to arararagi • • •How hard can you throw?
Amex gift cards. Cashapp uses Block(Square) for their payment processing, which is easier to use because you can transfer funds to that from your bank.
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in reply to arararagi • • •You can in Japan apparently. They have a system where you can go to convenience store and pay by scanning a code
You can also sorta use zelle, but the technical integration is not great. It's a very manual process as it is
Ultimately, the problem is we let two companies dominate commerce itself. We just need to let the governmet do payment processing, and require compatibility
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in reply to dohpaz42 • • •Discover and Diners Club merged a few years ago btw. Discover also has an alliance with JCB.
So Discover network is actually really, really big.
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in reply to xep • • •In Italy, there's a debit card circuit called PagoBancomat.
Italy also has a digital-only payment system called Satispay. Denmark and Finland have MobilePay (which is way better than Satispay). Sweden has Swish.
Your country may have something similar, look it up. And then you can always pay with PayPal by connecting your bank account directly, with no cards involved (at least in Europe).
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in reply to Lyra_Lycan • • •How is an even more niche process that involves having to go to an exchange to buy crypto then safe guard it and it being a taxable event when buying goods with it in some countries a solution?
People are wanting a mainstream alternative that the companies that they buy from use, and if the companies don't care to use it then it doesn't matter for the average person.
Even people actually into crypto are less interested in spending it because it exposes their balance if they aren't using coin mixers or monero which can make them a target. Not to mention most just see it as stock they hope goes to the moon as opposed to going through the cumbersome process of buying for the purpose of spending it like a depreciating asset.
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in reply to Lyra_Lycan • • •Unfortunately crypto is already complicated as is. And as the other user said bitcoin isn't the best choice. Monero would be as close to the overall goal as it is possible.
Now using monero would be more anonymous than credit/debit cards making it a better option - but not many vendors support it, and cash is just simpler than any other option.
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in reply to xep • • •In Canada, I'd like to see Interac develop into one. Hopefully more prominence wouldn't ruin it
Edit:
Never mind. It would be inevitable.
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in reply to themachinestops • • •Keep the pressure on.
Collective Shout got them to change their position and they're a small group. We are legion, as the kids say
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in reply to Cethin • • •I'm not saying there is illegal content. Read my comment.
I'm saying the possibility of there being illegal content only exists if they allow the reintroduction of those titles. They'd need trust in the store moderation, in the lack of bad faith actors, in a lot of things.
And it would be an absolutely stupid business decision for them.
I am NOT condoning what they did, nor what they are doing. I am explaining, from their business perspective, why allowing potentially illegal content back on the platform is a non-argument and you cannot convince them otherwise.
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in reply to reactionality • • •Again, no. If there were illegal content before then it's already breaking the rules. If you're breaking rules once, why would adding more rules change anything?
What? Yeah, the store moderators have to enforce the rules. I don't know what this has to do with anything. Illegal or just banned, they have to be removed by the moderators. What difference does it make? This doesn't make any sense. Adding more rules doesn't magically remove the content. Moderators still have to do it. If they weren't doing it for illegal content, why would they do it for only banned but legal content?
The reason they did it is because they were pressured by a weird group who has a lot of influence. It wasn't because they were worried about illegal content, which is obvious because that's not the rule they applied. If the rule was "you're not allowed to sell illegal content" (which is obviously always true) then it'd be fine. Instead they made a rule for not allowing specific types of legal content.
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in reply to Cethin • • •You're not great at risk assessment, are you?
They have a risky move, which in 1/10000 cases leads to an illegal game being paid for through their payment platform.
And they have a safe move, where this never happens. Literally.
If the expected risk is positive in case 1, they will opt for case 2.
You must at least be able to understand this simple logic, right? If not, then I'm afraid this conversation is over because you're not even remotely trying to understand their logic, and you're just looking for a reason to be mad. Your irrationality makes me nauseous.
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in reply to Telorand • • •Batman and Robin are a way better duo.
I mean, they actually try to do good and oppose nazis instead of be them.
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in reply to themachinestops • • •Maybe it’s just because I’m so focused on my own issues as a US citizen… But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful? Like, the RIAA and MPAA combined couldn’t get the United States government to make this much movement on “objectionable content” (piracy at the time, and also now, and all of the time between then and now), but even the crypto fascists of yesterday year couldn’t get this much traction. Probably because people like Frank Zappa and Fred Rogers came forth to criticize the ridiculousness and the consequences of such a position and search policies.
May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
And 16 years later:
Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics
STAND UP!!! FIGHT BACK!! Citizen complacency is the most powerful weapon the fascist have – – relying on that you will be paralyzed with fear and do nothing to stop them.
RISE UP! RESIST! REVOLT!!
And show us the fucking Epstein files already, you fucking rapist, con man, felon, pedo, traitor!
- YouTube
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Death_Equity
in reply to floo • • •They got together enough people to mass email, that is all it took.
Companies tend to multiply received responses to represent the total number of people who were to lazy to complain, so Visa and MasterCard saw 1,000 emails as 10,000,000 in their risk averse actions.
Now 4chan is pissed and have started their own mass email and phonecall campaign, so we shall see where this goes...
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in reply to Death_Equity • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Death_Equity • • •Visa also have a fairly well documented history of kowtowing to Christian groups. The CEO of their Asian division is a right-wing religious fanatic who hates, well he's a religious fanatic so you know what he hates, but it's basically everything and everybody.
They don't like Japanese anime very much as well, probably because they think it's all pornography (anime does tend to have that bent, but it's not all pornography).
The thing is on their website they claim not to make moral judgements about purchasers, they claim to authorise anything that isn't actually illegal, so they should be totally fine with pornography and anime. If they are going to be right-wing religious fundamentalists at least they could be honest about it on their website.
floo
in reply to Death_Equity • • •Mass emailed didn’t exist in 1969 nor in 1985.
Wherever you went to school, those teachers should be shot.
lowleekun
in reply to floo • • •Maybe read those two comments again, then read your response.
Your reading skills are not what you think they are.
floo
in reply to lowleekun • • •I think you should take your own advice. Just because you lack the intelligence to understand my comment doesn’t mean I’m the one to blame.
Blocked for having shit for brains
lowleekun
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in reply to Confused_Emus • • •I’m sorry to hear of your troubles.
Do you need a hug?
Hanrahan
in reply to floo • • •It's Australia, we only laugh when China does it, otherwise it must be good if we're doing it.
Want to have backdoors to chat apps, done, allow the siezure and forced unlocking of computers and phones at the border, done. Inter refigees in our own offshore concentrarion camps for decades until they suicide and make it illegal to report on, done. Regularly kill our first nations peoples amd have the jailed ? Done. We're a fucken' embarrassment!
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in reply to danc4498 • • •Yeah there doesn't seem to be any alternatives in my country other than cash which doesn't work for online purchases.
Apparently there is a complicated thing I can do where I have to go to the post office and then I can send money directly to a company. But that's really inconvenient (it's like a 30-second walk from my house, I'm not doing that) and I don't think steam accepts that payment method anyway. In fact I've never heard of anyone except that payment method so I don't really understand why it exists.
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in reply to themachinestops • • •What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?
...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.
rottingleaf
in reply to Sterile_Technique • • •And the reason sexual things had to be filtered was that they are harmful and skew kids' perception of healthy sexuality.
Gambling wasn't considered healthy even where and when marrying a toddler was normal. After all, a traumatized person with unhealthy sexuality does generally understand they are traumatized, a person taught that addiction is normal - not.
Echo Dot
in reply to Sterile_Technique • • •This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.
It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.
tequinhu
in reply to Echo Dot • • •I laughed, then I cried :_(
themachinestops
in reply to Echo Dot • • •People like them used to go after books, now games.
bannedbooks.library.cmu.edu/al…
Aldous Huxley, “Brave New World” – The Banned Books Project
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in reply to themachinestops • • •“ All dem queer books are hurtin our kids, makin em all gay and shit! “
Says the man standing in front of his trailer with a deep five o’clock shadow spanning his double chin, a permanently stained wife-beating tank top and a prominent beer gut, who has five scrawny & bruised kids, and a wife that bears an eerie resemblance to himself but can’t quite look anyone in the eye.
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Unknown parent • • •That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?
There's usually some on-paper benevolent veneer to wrap their hateful bullshit up with.
For example, they hate trans people, but they don't campaign on that out loud - they justify that hated under the guise of shit like protecting bathrooms.
But this is fucking Steam - access to that bathroom is already under lock and key behind an armed guard. They can't just pull the "think of the children!" card when the children already have a myriad of protections.
...or maybe they can, considering what just happened. We live in stupid times.
Beero
in reply to Sterile_Technique • • •Opisek
in reply to themachinestops • • •"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".
Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s
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in reply to Echo Dot • • •rottingleaf
in reply to Opisek • • •When there are enough competing parties, the argument of "I live in country A and I don't care about B's special services reading my messages", where A and B are in a state of adversity, starts working.
By competing parties I mean not just A and B, but a plethora of snakes in that pit.
So - do it Elon. It's fine.
explodicle
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in reply to Sterile_Technique • • •The same way they always do: "WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!1111"
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in reply to themachinestops • • •Ibuthyr
in reply to Grizzlyboy • • •An alternative to PayPal, called WERO is currently in it's rollout process in Germany, Belgium and France. In October the next step will be activated, allowing payments in e-commerce. Later down the road, you'll be able to pay in real shops. Luxembourg and Netherlands are to join in next. More and more banks start to adopt WERO.
I urge everyone to use WERO as much as you can. It's flying a bit under the radar at the moment and this must be a success. Hopefully more EU members will join soon.
Domi
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in reply to Domi • • •Sounds great, but as with so many of these projects, they sound overly complicated for the masses. Wero is already a thing and it's straight forward. Even that is too complicated for many people, but it's gaining traction at least.
Anywho, I'm rooting for both!
katy ✨
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in reply to Grizzlyboy • • •shiiiit I wouldn't count on that anymore. With the age verification and ID stuff they would honestly at this point probably make it worse.
I used to be an advocate for European alternatives for US based tech companies but now? no way, started self hosting everything. it sucks.
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in reply to Grizzlyboy • • •Do you mean digital euro?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digita…
This would be the only thing that could break visa mastercard duopol. Hopefully 2028
project of the European Central Bank (ECB), for the possible introduction of a digital currency
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in reply to themachinestops • • •There it is.
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Unknown parent • • •Yeah but Jesus definitely preached love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and also, ew gay people not in my back yard.
I'm pretty confident on two of those anyway
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in reply to MBech • • •MBech
in reply to SufferingSteve • • •I'm sorry, but that is just a blatant misunderstanding of how economics work. It wouldn't combat blatant consumerism, it would literally destroy the economy. Not to be replaced by something better, but just destroy it. There would be no reason to invest in literally anything, including people, no reason to repair your house or feed the poor, because the money it would cost, would be worth more tomorrow.
Why would I buy a car, or bike, or proper nutritional food, if I could save that money for tomorrow, and buy more? Only tomorrow it's the same thing, so I'll live like shit until the next day, then the next day, and then the next....
The only people who would have any quality of life, would be the rich cunts. They'd live like the do now, because they don't actually need more money.
Deflation is never a good thing, I'm saying this as a socialist.
explodicle
in reply to MBech • • •They're not misunderstanding; you're using Keynesian economics. "The economy" as described today is rich people's wealth, not the wellbeing of the poor.
If people saved instead of building up credit scores, it would be much easier to strike. We don't need to be forced to invest somehow or become even poorer (which is what actually happened). You'll repair your house because you need a house and buy food because you need food. You're more likely to participate in mutual aid with savings than with credit.
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in reply to Auli • • •I would be for a state owned chain, does not have to be completely decentralized, it's just good tech that can make the payment processors of today obselete.
Basically require each bank to run nodes, while letting the central bank of the country hold the keys to mint new coins.
I mean one could also have verifying nodes run independent.
The tech is there, doesn't have to mean use anarchy moneys, it just means an overhaul of our ways of transferring value around.
explodicle
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in reply to themachinestops • • •Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!
explodicle
Unknown parent • • •On issues like these, conservatives will discover the magic of actual reasons. It's only "things you don't like" when we're talking about banning hate speech or something.
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in reply to CorruptCheesecake • • •Governments and some religious nutjobs.
They only pretend to care about children. It is about power and control. Always has been, always will.
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in reply to themachinestops • • •"Face backlash" = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.
They don't care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.
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