Rule to Protect Workers From Extreme Heat Advances Amid Rising Temperatures
As OSHA moves the rule ahead, labor advocacy groups say workers have waited too long for basic live-saving protections.
US | Appeals Court Overturns Murder and Kidnapping Conviction in Etan Patz Disappearance
The judges’ decision echoed ProPublica’s reporting from 2013 that raised questions about the veracity and legality of suspect Pedro Hernandez’s confessions in one of the most famous missing child cases in U.S. history.
Case file: ww3.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions…
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Activist Who Helped Film “No Other Land” Shot and Killed by Israeli Settler
Israeli violence in Masafer Yatta has intensified since the film won an Oscar.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/truthout.org…
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[Announcement] Second Boss Kill Event Winners
All of the prizes for the rerun of the Secrets of the Atlas Boss Kill Event have now been claimed for PC and Consoles.
Top 3 Placings - PC
Congratulations to the top 3 racers, who will each get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet, a Divination Card design, and a Unique Item design for the newest bosses: The Incarnation of Dread, The Incarnation of Neglect and The Incarnation of Fear!
- allexpleblord#4962
- artemzor#6678
- Goratha#2898
Top 10 Placings - PC
Congratulations to the rest of the top 10, who will also get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet as well as a Divination Card design!
- Zlage#2584
- Wyrm_GG#3008
- Quazicx#5244
- soul1027#7002
- Steelmage#5874
- CARNDARAK#3163
- Muximusic#1987
Bonus Prizes - PC
The following players were the first to slay the bosses listed below, allowing them to design a Unique Item for that boss:
- First Catarina Kill: soul1027#7002
- First Uber Uber Elder Kill: Wyrm_GG#3008
- First Uber Shaper Kill: Wyrm_GG#3008
- First Uber Sirus Kill: soul1027#7002
- First Uber Cortex Kill: soul1027#7002
Top 3 Placings - Xbox
Congratulations to the top 3 racers who will each get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet and a Divination Card design.
- LyricalChutoy33#8352
- F3arless3388#8523
- noturavgnoob711#8035
Top 10 Placings - Xbox
Congratulations to the rest of the top 10, who will also get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet.
- lilCazn#2883
- xFrekix#8809
- Fatalredemption#4808
- moku46#8131
- Hail 2the StoRm#8902
- X902133#8376
- TatamiKuo#8059
Top 3 Placings - PlayStation
Congratulations to the top 3 racers who will each get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet and a Divination Card design.
- JSnowder#9223
- FoxMA#9130
- SillySeraphim#9131
Top 10 Placings - PlayStation
Congratulations to the rest of the top 10, who will also get a Godslayer's Pride Amulet.
- XaIo93#9502
- codkill_11#9170
- CrazyToad-#9268
- Terrayn#9666
- Max_Planck#9538
- MikeO-SCFC#9969
- Ermi-96x#9042
Congratulations again to all winners of the second Secrets of the Atlas Boss Kill Event! We're in the process of distributing prizes now. If you earned a Unique Item design, please keep an eye on your Path of Exile inbox. Winners of Divination Card Designs should have already received tokens which you can check here. Godslayer's Pride Amulet will be awarded in the coming days.
You can continue to play your characters in the Event League until it ends, but if you're still in the mood for racing and... you're up for a bit of a challenge, make sure to check out Zizaran's Gauntlet event starting July 31st PDT.
Announcements - Second Boss Kill Event Winners - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
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Internal Documents Detail Hamas Proposals That Preceded Trump’s Belligerent Rant
Trump and Netanyahu threatened to launch even more violent “alternatives” to ceasefire negotiations as Hamas political leader blasts U.S.-Israeli “blackmail."
Archived version: archive.is/20250728034400/drop…
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Researchers quietly planned a test to dim sunlight. They wanted to ‘avoid scaring’ the public.
Hundreds of documents show how researchers failed to notify officials in California about a test of technology to block the sun’s rays — while they planned a much huger sequel.
Archived version: archive.is/20250728172625/poli…
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Huawei shows off AI computing system to rival Nvidia's top product
China's Huawei Technologies showed off an AI computing system on Saturday that one industry expert has said rivals Nvidia's most advanced offering, as the Chinese technology giant seeks to capture market share in the country's growing artificial intelligence sector.
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Another Google Pixel 6a catches fire after battery-nerfing update
Another Google Pixel 6a catches fire after battery-nerfing update
Google’s Battery Performance Program update was supposed to stop this.Ryan Whitwam (Ars Technica)
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UK Government responded to the "Repeal the Online Safety Act" Petition.
::: spoiler Long Response
I would like to thank all those who signed the petition. It is right that the regulatory regime for in scope online services takes a proportionate approach, balancing the protection of users from online harm with the ability for low-risk services to operate effectively and provide benefits to users.The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.
Proportionality is a core principle of the Act and is in-built into its duties. As regulator for the online safety regime, Ofcom must consider the size and risk level of different types and kinds of services when recommending steps providers can take to comply with requirements. Duties in the Communications Act 2003 require Ofcom to act with proportionality and target action only where it is needed.
Some duties apply to all user-to-user and search services in scope of the Act. This includes risk assessments, including determining if children are likely to access the service and, if so, assessing the risks of harm to children. While many services carry low risks of harm, the risk assessment duties are key to ensuring that risky services of all sizes do not slip through the net of regulation. For example, the Government is very concerned about small platforms that host harmful content, such as forums dedicated to encouraging suicide or self-harm. Exempting small services from the Act would mean that services like these forums would not be subject to the Act’s enforcement powers. Even forums that might seem harmless carry potential risks, such as where adults come into contact with child users.
Once providers have carried out their duties to conduct risk assessments, they must protect the users of their service from the identified risks of harm. Ofcom’s illegal content Codes of Practice set out recommended measures to help providers comply with these obligations, measures that are tailored in relation to both size and risk. If a provider’s risk assessment accurately determines that the risks faced by users are low across all harms, Ofcom’s Codes specify that they only need some basic measures, including:
- easy-to-find, understandable terms and conditions;
- a complaints tool that allows users to report illegal material when they see it, backed up by a process to deal with those complaints;
- the ability to review content and take it down if it is illegal (or breaches their terms of service);
- a specific individual responsible for compliance, who Ofcom can contact if needed.
Where a children's access assessment indicates a platform is likely to be accessed by children, a subsequent risk assessment must be conducted to identify measures for mitigating risks. Like the Codes of Practice on illegal content, Ofcom’s recently issued child safety Codes also tailor recommendations based on risk level. For example, highly effective age assurance is recommended for services likely accessed by children that do not already prohibit and remove harmful content such as pornography and suicide promotion. Providers of services likely to be accessed by UK children were required to complete their assessment, which Ofcom may request, by 24 July.
On 8 July, Ofcom’s CEO wrote to the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology noting Ofcom’s responsibility for regulating a wide range of highly diverse services, including those run by businesses, but also charities, community and voluntary groups, individuals, and many services that have not been regulated before.
The letter notes that the Act’s aim is not to penalise small, low-risk services trying to comply in good faith. Ofcom – and the Government – recognise that many small services are dynamic small businesses supporting innovation and offer significant value to their communities. Ofcom will take a sensible approach to enforcement with smaller services that present low risk to UK users, only taking action where it is proportionate and appropriate, and will focus on cases where the risk and impact of harm is highest.
Ofcom has developed an extensive programme of work designed to support a smoother journey to compliance, particularly for smaller firms. This has been underpinned by interviews, workshops and research with a diverse range of online services to ensure the tools meet the needs of different types of services. Ofcom’s letter notes its ‘guide for services’ guidance and tools hub, and its participation in events run by other organisations and networks including those for people running small services, as well as its commitment to review and improve materials and tools to help support services to create a safer life online.
The Government will continue to work with Ofcom towards the full implementation of the Online Safety Act 2023, including monitoring proportionate implementation.
Department for Science, Innovation and Technology
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Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
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Well we all saw that coming.
The parental and elderly voting bloc is very hard to ignore, and those groups tend to be less privacy conscious (as well as pro-anything "protect the children").
The only way it's getting repealed is if enough labour voters raise a fuss. Given Reform's messaging (i.e. repeal it) and how worried Labour are over Reform's polling, that is likely the only lever that'll work. However, that's a long game - one that will take years to play out.
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- These people, probably
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Russian here; good fucking luck banning VPNs
First, they evolve very rapidly and are able to evade even the most sensitive detection methods Russia and China are using
Second, people in power never want to apply the same restrictions to themselves, so, ironically, they themselves are often VPN users and as such they undermine themselves
"Benefit"
This word you keep using. I do not think it means what you think it means
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For example, the Government is very
concerned about small platforms that host
harmful content, such as forums dedicated to
encouraging suicide or self-harm.
So they've identified a problem with this type of content, and the answer is to put it behind an age wall. So is it a-ok for anyone over 18 to be encouraged to self harm or commit suicide according to the government?
Even forums that might seem harmless carry potential risks, such as where adults come into contact with child users.
Wait until the government finds out they're gonna have to age-restrict playing outside. What a genuine bone-dead stupid take.
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Dead Kennedys - Kinky sex makes the world go round
Even better are the moans from the PM
Dead Kennedys - Kinky Sex Makes the World Go 'Round Lyrics | Lyrics.com
Kinky Sex Makes the World Go 'Round Lyrics by Dead Kennedys from the Give Me Convenience or Give Me Death album- including song video, artist biography, translations and more: Greetings:This is the Secretary of War at the State Department Of the Un…www.lyrics.com
When the regime ignores petitions by the public for the redress of grievances, you petition harder.
Demonstrations, Public Disobedience, Mischief, Sabotage, Terrorism.
Censorship always expands and encroaches on things important to the public. Obscenity and indecency protections eventually turn into queer erasure. Security concerns are always followed by carve-outs of civil rights.
Hit hard early.
Simple Sabotage Field Manual by United States. Office of Strategic Services
Free kindle book and epub digitized and proofread by volunteers.Project Gutenberg
I'm surprised their response wasn't, "you're all on the side of predators; it's as simple as that".
theguardian.com/politics/2025/…
Peter Kyle says Nigel Farage is on side of ‘people like Jimmy Savile’ in online safety row
Technology secretary doubles down after Reform UK pledges to scrap Online Safety Act if it wins powerJamie Grierson (The Guardian)
The TL;DR of it is "we're not repealing it, get fucked."
The technology minister said on Sky News that if you was to repeal the act, you're on the side of Jimmy Savile.
That's where we are in all this, support this or you're a nonce.
if you was to repeal the act, you’re on the side of Jimmy Savile.
flipping through my Big Book of Politicians and Celebrities appearing beside Jimmy Savile
Do they really want to go there?
That’s where we are in all this, support this or you’re a nonce.
That's been the Tory approach to politics for decades. No surprise New Labour has adopted it, since they seem keen on all their other platforms.
🦶🏻💥🔫
Remember this moment when Nigel Farage sweeps to power in 2028 on a wave of youth votes, brings back the porn and sells the NHS.
Time to start a global strategy to stop reliance on government and corporate equipment, to switch to open source, no intellectual property, decentralized infrastructure.
The key weakpoint to our entire global society is reliance on outside forces that can influence and manipulate us.
Anyone who's played plague.inc knows already what to do. Once people have their own food, energy, shelter, and software, they will not be pleased to let them be taken unjustly by a conquering force, creating a natural buffer.
You literally don't have to do anything illegal, you can easily go under the radar for quite a while.
UK Government responded to the "Repeal the Online Safety Act" Petition.
::: spoiler Long Response
I would like to thank all those who signed the petition. It is right that the regulatory regime for in scope online services takes a proportionate approach, balancing the protection of users from online harm with the ability for low-risk services to operate effectively and provide benefits to users.The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible to enable UK users to benefit from its protections.
Proportionality is a core principle of the Act and is in-built into its duties. As regulator for the online safety regime, Ofcom must consider the size and risk level of different types and kinds of services when recommending steps providers can take to comply with requirements. Duties in the Communications Act 2003 require Ofcom to act with proportionality and target action only where it is needed.
Some duties apply to all user-to-user and search services in scope of the Act. This includes risk assessments, including determining if children are likely to access the service and, if so, assessing the risks of harm to children. While many services carry low risks of harm, the risk assessment duties are key to ensuring that risky services of all sizes do not slip through the net of regulation. For example, the Government is very concerned about small platforms that host harmful content, such as forums dedicated to encouraging suicide or self-harm. Exempting small services from the Act would mean that services like these forums would not be subject to the Act’s enforcement powers. Even forums that might seem harmless carry potential risks, such as where adults come into contact with child users.
Once providers have carried out their duties to conduct risk assessments, they must protect the users of their service from the identified risks of harm. Ofcom’s illegal content Codes of Practice set out recommended measures to help providers comply with these obligations, measures that are tailored in relation to both size and risk. If a provider’s risk assessment accurately determines that the risks faced by users are low across all harms, Ofcom’s Codes specify that they only need some basic measures, including:
- easy-to-find, understandable terms and conditions;
- a complaints tool that allows users to report illegal material when they see it, backed up by a process to deal with those complaints;
- the ability to review content and take it down if it is illegal (or breaches their terms of service);
- a specific individual responsible for compliance, who Ofcom can contact if needed.
Where a children's access assessment indicates a platform is likely to be accessed by children, a subsequent risk assessment must be conducted to identify measures for mitigating risks. Like the Codes of Practice on illegal content, Ofcom’s recently issued child safety Codes also tailor recommendations based on risk level. For example, highly effective age assurance is recommended for services likely accessed by children that do not already prohibit and remove harmful content such as pornography and suicide promotion. Providers of services likely to be accessed by UK children were required to complete their assessment, which Ofcom may request, by 24 July.
On 8 July, Ofcom’s CEO wrote to the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology noting Ofcom’s responsibility for regulating a wide range of highly diverse services, including those run by businesses, but also charities, community and voluntary groups, individuals, and many services that have not been regulated before.
The letter notes that the Act’s aim is not to penalise small, low-risk services trying to comply in good faith. Ofcom – and the Government – recognise that many small services are dynamic small businesses supporting innovation and offer significant value to their communities. Ofcom will take a sensible approach to enforcement with smaller services that present low risk to UK users, only taking action where it is proportionate and appropriate, and will focus on cases where the risk and impact of harm is highest.
Ofcom has developed an extensive programme of work designed to support a smoother journey to compliance, particularly for smaller firms. This has been underpinned by interviews, workshops and research with a diverse range of online services to ensure the tools meet the needs of different types of services. Ofcom’s letter notes its ‘guide for services’ guidance and tools hub, and its participation in events run by other organisations and networks including those for people running small services, as well as its commitment to review and improve materials and tools to help support services to create a safer life online.
The Government will continue to work with Ofcom towards the full implementation of the Online Safety Act 2023, including monitoring proportionate implementation.
Department for Science, Innovation and Technology
:::
Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
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Mastercard and Visa face backlash after hundreds of adult games removed from online stores Steam and Itch.io
Mastercard and Visa face backlash after hundreds of adult games removed from online stores Steam and Itch.io
Payment platforms demand services remove NSFW content after open letter from Australian anti-porn group Collective Shout, triggering accusations of censorshipJosh Taylor (The Guardian)
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Feels like we're going back to the 90s/00s "Christian parents against video games" moral panic era. But this time, they're being appeased more heavily.
I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.
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Ugh... This shit again....
The fucking Bible is FULL OF FUCKING HATE. Hate for women, hate for blacks, hate for gays, hate for the "other".
I'm really sick of people trotting out two lines from that book of fairytales and doing a pikachu face "how could people read this and be evil?!?"
Easily, because the Bible is filled with vile shit. Because it's made up bullshit that let's you argue every side of every point because it's a amalgam of garbage written by idiots with the occasional line of wisdom sprinkled in.
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Remember that Discover is self-banked (unlike Visa/Mastercard that banks sign up with). This means that every credit line needs to be backed by... well ... A bank.
Bigger banks mean more credit opportunities, better interest rates (etc. etc). Deeper credit lines.
How hard can you throw?
Amex gift cards. Cashapp uses Block(Square) for their payment processing, which is easier to use because you can transfer funds to that from your bank.
You can in Japan apparently. They have a system where you can go to convenience store and pay by scanning a code
You can also sorta use zelle, but the technical integration is not great. It's a very manual process as it is
Ultimately, the problem is we let two companies dominate commerce itself. We just need to let the governmet do payment processing, and require compatibility
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They had to leave empty-handed.
Discover and Diners Club merged a few years ago btw. Discover also has an alliance with JCB.
So Discover network is actually really, really big.
In Italy, there's a debit card circuit called PagoBancomat.
Italy also has a digital-only payment system called Satispay. Denmark and Finland have MobilePay (which is way better than Satispay). Sweden has Swish.
Your country may have something similar, look it up. And then you can always pay with PayPal by connecting your bank account directly, with no cards involved (at least in Europe).
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Ledger Crypto Wallet - Security for DeFi & Web3
Secure your crypto assets such as Bitcoin, Ethereum, XRP, Monero, and more. Give yourself peace of mind by knowing that your cryptocurrencies are safeLedger
How is an even more niche process that involves having to go to an exchange to buy crypto then safe guard it and it being a taxable event when buying goods with it in some countries a solution?
People are wanting a mainstream alternative that the companies that they buy from use, and if the companies don't care to use it then it doesn't matter for the average person.
Even people actually into crypto are less interested in spending it because it exposes their balance if they aren't using coin mixers or monero which can make them a target. Not to mention most just see it as stock they hope goes to the moon as opposed to going through the cumbersome process of buying for the purpose of spending it like a depreciating asset.
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Unfortunately crypto is already complicated as is. And as the other user said bitcoin isn't the best choice. Monero would be as close to the overall goal as it is possible.
Now using monero would be more anonymous than credit/debit cards making it a better option - but not many vendors support it, and cash is just simpler than any other option.
In Canada, I'd like to see Interac develop into one. Hopefully more prominence wouldn't ruin it
Edit:
Following several aborted merger attempts which were either blocked by the Competition Bureau or by some of the co-owners between 2008 and 2013, Interac and Acxsys were combined into a single for-profit organization, Interac Corporation, on 1 February 2018.
Never mind. It would be inevitable.
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Keep the pressure on.
Collective Shout got them to change their position and they're a small group. We are legion, as the kids say
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I'm not saying there is illegal content. Read my comment.
I'm saying the possibility of there being illegal content only exists if they allow the reintroduction of those titles. They'd need trust in the store moderation, in the lack of bad faith actors, in a lot of things.
And it would be an absolutely stupid business decision for them.
I am NOT condoning what they did, nor what they are doing. I am explaining, from their business perspective, why allowing potentially illegal content back on the platform is a non-argument and you cannot convince them otherwise.
I'm saying the possibility of there being illegal content only exists if they allow the reintroduction of those titles.
Again, no. If there were illegal content before then it's already breaking the rules. If you're breaking rules once, why would adding more rules change anything?
They'd need trust in the store moderation, in the lack of bad faith actors, in a lot of things.
What? Yeah, the store moderators have to enforce the rules. I don't know what this has to do with anything. Illegal or just banned, they have to be removed by the moderators. What difference does it make? This doesn't make any sense. Adding more rules doesn't magically remove the content. Moderators still have to do it. If they weren't doing it for illegal content, why would they do it for only banned but legal content?
The reason they did it is because they were pressured by a weird group who has a lot of influence. It wasn't because they were worried about illegal content, which is obvious because that's not the rule they applied. If the rule was "you're not allowed to sell illegal content" (which is obviously always true) then it'd be fine. Instead they made a rule for not allowing specific types of legal content.
You're not great at risk assessment, are you?
They have a risky move, which in 1/10000 cases leads to an illegal game being paid for through their payment platform.
And they have a safe move, where this never happens. Literally.
If the expected risk is positive in case 1, they will opt for case 2.
You must at least be able to understand this simple logic, right? If not, then I'm afraid this conversation is over because you're not even remotely trying to understand their logic, and you're just looking for a reason to be mad. Your irrationality makes me nauseous.
We are legion, as the kids say
God I'm old lmao
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Batman and Robin are a way better duo.
I mean, they actually try to do good and oppose nazis instead of be them.
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Maybe it’s just because I’m so focused on my own issues as a US citizen… But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful? Like, the RIAA and MPAA combined couldn’t get the United States government to make this much movement on “objectionable content” (piracy at the time, and also now, and all of the time between then and now), but even the crypto fascists of yesterday year couldn’t get this much traction. Probably because people like Frank Zappa and Fred Rogers came forth to criticize the ridiculousness and the consequences of such a position and search policies.
May 1, 1969: Fred Rogers testifies before the Senate Subcommittee on Communications
And 16 years later:
Frank Zappa at PMRC Senate Hearing on Rock Lyrics
STAND UP!!! FIGHT BACK!! Citizen complacency is the most powerful weapon the fascist have – – relying on that you will be paralyzed with fear and do nothing to stop them.
RISE UP! RESIST! REVOLT!!
And show us the fucking Epstein files already, you fucking rapist, con man, felon, pedo, traitor!
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They got together enough people to mass email, that is all it took.
Companies tend to multiply received responses to represent the total number of people who were to lazy to complain, so Visa and MasterCard saw 1,000 emails as 10,000,000 in their risk averse actions.
Now 4chan is pissed and have started their own mass email and phonecall campaign, so we shall see where this goes...
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Visa also have a fairly well documented history of kowtowing to Christian groups. The CEO of their Asian division is a right-wing religious fanatic who hates, well he's a religious fanatic so you know what he hates, but it's basically everything and everybody.
They don't like Japanese anime very much as well, probably because they think it's all pornography (anime does tend to have that bent, but it's not all pornography).
The thing is on their website they claim not to make moral judgements about purchasers, they claim to authorise anything that isn't actually illegal, so they should be totally fine with pornography and anime. If they are going to be right-wing religious fundamentalists at least they could be honest about it on their website.
Mass emailed didn’t exist in 1969 nor in 1985.
Wherever you went to school, those teachers should be shot.
Maybe read those two comments again, then read your response.
Your reading skills are not what you think they are.
I think you should take your own advice. Just because you lack the intelligence to understand my comment doesn’t mean I’m the one to blame.
Blocked for having shit for brains
But how the hell did some Australian Christofascist group get this powerful?
It's Australia, we only laugh when China does it, otherwise it must be good if we're doing it.
Want to have backdoors to chat apps, done, allow the siezure and forced unlocking of computers and phones at the border, done. Inter refigees in our own offshore concentrarion camps for decades until they suicide and make it illegal to report on, done. Regularly kill our first nations peoples amd have the jailed ? Done. We're a fucken' embarrassment!
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Yeah there doesn't seem to be any alternatives in my country other than cash which doesn't work for online purchases.
Apparently there is a complicated thing I can do where I have to go to the post office and then I can send money directly to a company. But that's really inconvenient (it's like a 30-second walk from my house, I'm not doing that) and I don't think steam accepts that payment method anyway. In fact I've never heard of anyone except that payment method so I don't really understand why it exists.
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What's even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters... if you don't want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don't let em?
...meanwhile, let's just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors' throats in the form of lootboxes.
And the reason sexual things had to be filtered was that they are harmful and skew kids' perception of healthy sexuality.
Gambling wasn't considered healthy even where and when marrying a toddler was normal. After all, a traumatized person with unhealthy sexuality does generally understand they are traumatized, a person taught that addiction is normal - not.
This group isn't interested in protecting children they're just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they're interested in children. Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.
It's a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.
Which I'm sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.
I laughed, then I cried :_(
People like them used to go after books, now games.
“ All dem queer books are hurtin our kids, makin em all gay and shit! “
Says the man standing in front of his trailer with a deep five o’clock shadow spanning his double chin, a permanently stained wife-beating tank top and a prominent beer gut, who has five scrawny & bruised kids, and a wife that bears an eerie resemblance to himself but can’t quite look anyone in the eye.
That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?
There's usually some on-paper benevolent veneer to wrap their hateful bullshit up with.
For example, they hate trans people, but they don't campaign on that out loud - they justify that hated under the guise of shit like protecting bathrooms.
But this is fucking Steam - access to that bathroom is already under lock and key behind an armed guard. They can't just pull the "think of the children!" card when the children already have a myriad of protections.
...or maybe they can, considering what just happened. We live in stupid times.
"[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»".
Surely that's going to solve the problem. There's absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s
When there are enough competing parties, the argument of "I live in country A and I don't care about B's special services reading my messages", where A and B are in a state of adversity, starts working.
By competing parties I mean not just A and B, but a plethora of snakes in that pit.
So - do it Elon. It's fine.
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That's their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?
The same way they always do: "WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!1111"
An alternative to PayPal, called WERO is currently in it's rollout process in Germany, Belgium and France. In October the next step will be activated, allowing payments in e-commerce. Later down the road, you'll be able to pay in real shops. Luxembourg and Netherlands are to join in next. More and more banks start to adopt WERO.
I urge everyone to use WERO as much as you can. It's flying a bit under the radar at the moment and this must be a success. Hopefully more EU members will join soon.
Sounds great, but as with so many of these projects, they sound overly complicated for the masses. Wero is already a thing and it's straight forward. Even that is too complicated for many people, but it's gaining traction at least.
Anywho, I'm rooting for both!
shiiiit I wouldn't count on that anymore. With the age verification and ID stuff they would honestly at this point probably make it worse.
I used to be an advocate for European alternatives for US based tech companies but now? no way, started self hosting everything. it sucks.
Do you mean digital euro?
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This would be the only thing that could break visa mastercard duopol. Hopefully 2028
Parola filtrata: nsfw
While Collective Shout solely targeted games it said violated policies held by payment platforms, Itch.io's move to temporarily remove all NSFW content resulted in games with LGBTQ+ themes being removed.One petition signer who is a member of the LGBTQ+ community said they were concerned that banning sexual-based games would be the start of cracking down on LGBTQ+ content.
There it is.
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Yeah but Jesus definitely preached love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and also, ew gay people not in my back yard.
I'm pretty confident on two of those anyway
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I'm sorry, but that is just a blatant misunderstanding of how economics work. It wouldn't combat blatant consumerism, it would literally destroy the economy. Not to be replaced by something better, but just destroy it. There would be no reason to invest in literally anything, including people, no reason to repair your house or feed the poor, because the money it would cost, would be worth more tomorrow.
Why would I buy a car, or bike, or proper nutritional food, if I could save that money for tomorrow, and buy more? Only tomorrow it's the same thing, so I'll live like shit until the next day, then the next day, and then the next....
The only people who would have any quality of life, would be the rich cunts. They'd live like the do now, because they don't actually need more money.
Deflation is never a good thing, I'm saying this as a socialist.
They're not misunderstanding; you're using Keynesian economics. "The economy" as described today is rich people's wealth, not the wellbeing of the poor.
If people saved instead of building up credit scores, it would be much easier to strike. We don't need to be forced to invest somehow or become even poorer (which is what actually happened). You'll repair your house because you need a house and buy food because you need food. You're more likely to participate in mutual aid with savings than with credit.
I would be for a state owned chain, does not have to be completely decentralized, it's just good tech that can make the payment processors of today obselete.
Basically require each bank to run nodes, while letting the central bank of the country hold the keys to mint new coins.
I mean one could also have verifying nodes run independent.
The tech is there, doesn't have to mean use anarchy moneys, it just means an overhaul of our ways of transferring value around.
“The internet has no borders. Women and girls everywhere are impacted by male violence against women and misogyny in general which we believed these games perpetuated,” she said.
Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!
everything you don’t like
On issues like these, conservatives will discover the magic of actual reasons. It's only "things you don't like" when we're talking about banning hate speech or something.
Governments and some religious nutjobs.
They only pretend to care about children. It is about power and control. Always has been, always will.
"Face backlash" = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.
They don't care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.
How much electricity do data centers use, and can they run on renewables?
- Data centers need a constant source of electricity. Data centers often run on solar and wind from the grid, but the intermittency of solar and wind means that it’s difficult to power data centers using these renewables alone.
- When data centers aren’t connected to the grid today, they’re often powered by diesel generators. However, a growing number of data centers are relying on solar and wind systems backed up by battery storage.
- Exact figures on data center electricity usage are difficult to find, because the tech companies who operate data centers don’t tend to release detailed statistics.
- The numbers we do have suggest that data centers consume about 1.5% of global electricity, and that this number is rapidly rising. It’s expected to reach 3 to 6% by 2030.
- However, data centers tend to be concentrated in particular places, like Virginia and Ireland. In these locations, they may account for a significantly higher proportion of a particular region’s electricity.
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To explore AI bias, researchers pose a question: How do you imagine a tree?
To explore AI bias, researchers pose a question: How do you imagine a tree?
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Are people actually complying with Age Verification laws?
Are there people really whipping out their ID prior to scrolling Reddit or masturbating?
This Is a joke right? Pretend VPNs don't exist. How are citizens in these areas responding and navigating these laws in Texas or the UK?
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Poll: Which abandoned Android phone features do you miss the most?
Poll: Which abandoned Android phone features do you miss? - Android Authority
While our phones have gotten more advanced, many compromises had to made along the way. Which one was the most difficult for you to forget?Tushar Mehta (Android Authority)
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Ha, good one. They prefer to blame everyone else.
The DNC, the New York Times reported, will “mostly steer clear of the decisions made by the Biden-turned-Harris campaign and will focus more heavily instead on actions taken by allied groups.”
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Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
Cheat Sheet Source
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- Second Thread.
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Anti-Censorship Cheat Sheet
Copied from Bluesky, thought y'all might find this handy in the midst of all the NSFW stuff happening on itch.io and Steam. More info here: https://stop-paypros.neocities.org/Pop Shop Packs (itch.io)
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I don’t blame them but I also don’t see this as activism, I doubt anyone really spending the time on this cares about possible future censorship that others who are not them may face, they just want to buy their porn.
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This is not about the porn. If you think about it for more than 3 seconds it becomes obvious how this is about the power finance institutions have over morals and society and how religious groups leverage moral panics as a way to weasel in harm and destroy minorities by associating immorality with marginalized groups. Just like pro-life anti choice has nothing to do with saving children, but is about hurting women and controlling their uteruses. Terfism has nothing to do with feminism but is about hurting trans people. Drug wars weren't about protecting the youth but about destroying the rights of Hispanic and black communities. And a long list of etcéteras.
This is about defending fundamental rights that will get trampled under the guise of moral and religious righteousness. It's about power and control. Porn is just the scapegoat. Several LGBTQ+ games were also hit, many which didn't even have anything to do with sex, just because of this incident. That's how it begins and it was completely intentional, the cruelty is the point.
I just hope people continue to fight even after this one thing is resolved. Otherwise it will happen again because that’s how capitalism works
oh I see so you've decided what's going on and are now angry about that.
I'm sorry that your story version of me is letting you down. I'm not really sure what I can do about it though.
~~I've never bought a porn game nor ever played one, but I just think it's stupid that such large companies fold to a lobby organization and start moderating the sale of products.~~
~~Christian fundamentalist activists are persistent and organized, and it's effective. I think it's bad how a small minority is able to dictate the lives of other people and I like how people get riled up because I hope it will remind the people in charge of those large corporations that catering to extremists is a bad decision.~~
~~TLDR: Idgaf about the games, I just hate it when religious zealots dictate the lives of others.~~
EDIT: I might have been wrong about "Collective Shout" and didn't look into it enough before forming an opinion.
EDIT 2: Yeah, I don't think "Incest Daughters BDSM" deserves saving. They seem to be primarily targeting rape and incest games, and I can definitely understand that you want to see rape games gone from if you're an organisation like this. Article
However, I still don't know how accurate their own article is, I might check out more sources/perspectives when I have time.
There's a solid argument that most of the porn games are some form of sexual abuse. You could argue that adults should be allowed to commit fake sexual abuse but its still likely not a positive for those who consume it.
Its interesting noone here has argued for porn games, just against censorship.
Right. Most of us don't care about the porn, which is why we're not arguing for it. Most of us just don't like credit card companies being allowed to dictate what we do and don't buy.
Plus, I'm guessing anybody with an incest fetish probably understands that isn't something to go shouting to the world if they want their position to be taken seriously.
Why? Because you don't like them?
It's a perfect example, because there's nothing even close to pornographic in that game. The only possible reason would be because there's a lesbian android couple that runs off together (if you let them).
This isn't about porn games. They removed Detroit: Become Human.
If you think this will stop at porn games, then you're a fool.
Detroit: Become Human on Steam
Detroit: Become Human puts the destiny of both mankind and androids in your hands, taking you to a near future where machines have become more intelligent than humans.store.steampowered.com
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Seems like it would be a good place to start. You'd need to write the bit in order to send the output to a voip service and receive the input from the same service.
If you could get that going in a container you could spawn a bunch of them on VPSs (finding ones that have the hardware to run local AI would probably be expensive, probably better to use a hosting service if you're going to scale this).
I'm sure there are more conversation agent frameworks that people have built (it's a pretty simple loop to create), but if you wanted to get started this isn't bad.
GitHub - vndee/local-talking-llm: A talking LLM that runs on your own computer without needing the internet.
A talking LLM that runs on your own computer without needing the internet. - vndee/local-talking-llmGitHub
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I can't say for sure.
After the first one, it has become much harder to get core samples.
Hell, internet chemist here, I can say with certainty that they is chemicals...
Unless you're a family with a free energy being background?
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There's always a gap between "Someone should do something about this" and "I should do something about this".
Once that line gets crossed, plans like OP's post start.
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But how can I be expected to sign the SKG petition, while people in West Sahara live under Morocco’s unjust occupation?
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SKG is privileged western bullshit. It is a way to distract from real issues while feeling like you had an impact on something.
I just happen to have the foresight to know that 20 years from now it will sound stupid to brag that I helped change some obscure game development process for a tiny bit more convenience.
This is all absurd and a waste of time, but whatever makes people feel useful I guess.
World peace, end hunger are not entertaining as "How to get an A from your professor - sorority/fraternity party edition" (coming to iOS and Android).
You have underestimated the power of porn games.
Getting downvoted for wanting people to advocate for better living conditions, way to go .world!
Edit: Sorry for wanting people to advocate for better things, glad to know that's too much to ask.
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It's amazing that you posted this after having a fairly good explanation as to why it's not a good idea to conflate too many things together.
If you string too many things to a cause you dilute all of them. Especially because MasterCard and Visa have nothing to do with what's happening in Palestine so linking the two causes together just weakens both of them.
.world is full of children who dont understand time yet. They think everything is final, and you just need to judge a thing once. They compile lists of who is out and who is in, and make memes appropriately. They kick out anyone who doesnt fit their group.
If someone can point out the difference between middle school and .world, I'd love to hear it because I can't think of one.
I think the people using the biggest whataboutism argument I've ever seen are the ones acting like middle schoolers, but that's just me.
Feel free to make a new post listing senators' contact information, walking people through calling their senators about those issues, and giving them a rough script or an idea of what to say. That would be a hell of a lot more productive than all the whining and complaining y'all are doing in this post.
They won't, since they only want to nag and feel superior for caring "real issues".
All consumer rights aren't real issues but we still have them, SKG just wants the law to act on the companies clearly breaking it.
Those tactics are literally working this very minute. What tactics would you rather see?
Wait! Don't reply here, go make a post about it! I promise that will be more effective than continuing what you're doing here.
Because Visa and MasterCard might actually change their minds. They are a business and they don't want this shit if it becomes more annoying to deal with gamers than it is to deal with random whiny Australians they'll reverse their decision.
Trump on the other hand is made of his mind and that's the end of it. Obviously you should still continue to complain because it's hilarious how upset he gets about it, but that list is never seeing the light of day until he's out of office, one way or another.
I'd just like to point out that you seem opposed to activists bombarding a company to change its policy, but are fighting this by gathering activists to bombard a company to change its policy.
What's changing here?
Wait what?
Are you sure you responded to the right comment because I don't understand what you're talking about. I'm not opposed to bombarding any company.
Well considering GOP reps are getting 500:1 call ratio on the Epstein files people DO care this much.
It’s possible to care about multiple things at once.
Here's the summarized version:
Be Polite.
Act as if you only understand 'the effects', have a nebulous notion of 'the cause'.
Act like you know little other than this, and insist they explain it to you like you are a five year old.
Waste as much of their time as possible, without becoming hotheaded, instead become sad-confused.
"I'm not so much angry, as I am disappointed" type of vibe / energy.
And if possible, be genuinely kind to the low level, actual people you talk to, they literally do not make the rules.
This is what spammers, scammers, identity thieves, 'pig-butcherers', credit collections do.
It absolutely works.
Lol I'm on the visa line with Visa now, they have a prepared statement about this.
They are trying to say they only ever block purchases unless it's illegal.
They explicitly said they DO NOT moderate purchases unless it is illegal multiple times. I kept challenging her and saying it's not illegal, yet they moderate, but she told me she can only read the prepared statement and repeated it multiple times. She then told me I would have to email them to "share my perspective" and then hung up on me.
That is true, these are perspectives. Nobody knows the truth, only a projection if it upon their world.
It's just that by that they are claiming that it's their perspective which decides what will happen.
In other words, they are saying "so whatcha gonna do".
Corporations lie blatantly all the fucking time.
Its just that they lie in ways that usually are not able to be legally defined as some kind of a legally actionable version of a lie.
They are usually more worried with ever having outwardly admitting something that they could be sued over, than they are with any kind of human to human sense of accountability or believability.
Every, single, thing they are mass releasing or designing as an official stance has gone through some kind of legal team, or a team under a legal team that follow's guidelines from a legal team.
This is just how megacorps work.
They are not people, they are a sociopathic machine, operated by people who very much tend to be sociopaths.
Do you support incest and rape video games being globally banned from sale? I mean, I can kind of get it, its fucked up porn.
But I don't like the idea of fictional smut, even if of particularly morally questionable type of porn, gets globally banned (as long as its just fictional obviously).
What people jork their peanits/flick their bean to as long as no one was actually harmed in its production is none of my or your business.
Obviously, there is also the chilling effect of letting this censorship slide and the anti-democratic nature of payment processors being the ones enforcing this. But I suspect those are unconvincing to you and you are happy this stuff is harder to get now. Am I wrong?
When you buy a game, doesn't matter the platform, you pay for it with a credit card. The credit card companies are holding the game platform hostage, saying either they start censoring what games they sell or they lose the ability to process any credit cards for any games at all.
That is essentially holding a gun to their heads, if they can't process credit cards they can't bring in any money and they might as well just close shop and go home because their business is finished.
You can boycott steam or itch or whatever else, but they all use the same credit card processing systems- Visa, MasterCard, Discover, etc. if they start applying these policies to all game retailers, it will simply become impossible to buy any vaguely pornographic game. Period. Anywhere.
Thus, boycotting steam or itch is counterproductive. They are victims just as much as the consumers. They have no desire to ban these games, they were happily selling these games a week ago. But when they are being told 'ban a bunch of low volume games or you cease to exist as a company' that is what they do.
Thus, this phone call campaign. It is focusing on the credit card companies, the ones who are actually applying this pressure to game companies.
It is telling them we do not want them dictating what people are and are not allowed to spend money on. We do not want them to enforce morality. And if they got the impression we did, it's because a small minority made a couple of phone calls.
The idea is if 1,000 people call in and complain about the porn game, and 100,000 people call in and complain about the censorship, hopefully they will get the message.
Here's a list of MasterCard's toll-free phone numbers in various countries: mastercard.fi/content/dam/publ…
And here's the same for Visa: visa.fi/content/dam/VCOM/downl…
And the content of that file, in case that they might remove that link:
Mastercard Global Service™
Local Toll-Free Telephone Numbers
- American Samoa 1-1-800-307-7309
- Japan 00531-11-3886
- Anguilla 1-800-307-7309
- Korea, Republic of 0079-811-887-0823
- Antigua and Barbuda 1-800-307-7309
- Liechtenstein 0800-89-7092
- Argentina 0800-555-0507
- Luxembourg 800-2-4533
- Australia 1800-120-113
- Malaysia 1-800-804594
- Austria 0800-07-06-138
- Mexico 001-800-307-7309
- Bahamas 1-800-307-7309
- Monaco 0-800-90-1387
- Bahrain 8000-0087
- Montserrat 1-800-307-7309
- Barbados 1-800-307-7309
- Netherlands 0800-022-5821
- Belgium 0800-1-5096
- New Zealand 800-441-671
- Bermuda 1-800-307-7309
- Norway 800-12697
- Bolivia 800-10-0172
- Panama 001-800-307-7309
- Bonaire 001-800-307-7309
- Peru 0800-77-476
- Brazil 0800-891-3294
- Philippines 1-800-1-111-0061
- Cambodia 800-881-001 then 877-288-3891*
- Poland 0-0800-111-1211
- Canada 1-800-307-7309
- Portugal 800-8-11-272
- Cayman Islands 1-800-307-7309
- Puerto Rico 1-800-307-7309
- Chile 1230-020-2012
- The Russia 8-800-555-02-69
- China 10-800-110-7309**
- Saba 1-800-307-7309
- China 2 10-800-711-7309***
- St. Eustatius 1-800-307-7309
- Colombia 01-800-912-1303
- St. Maarten 1-800-307-7309
- Costa Rica 0-800-011-0184
- St. Kitts-Nevis 1-800-307-7309
- Curacao 001-800-307-7309
- Saipan (N. Marianas) 1-800-307-7309
- Cyprus 080-90569
- San Marino 800-870-866
- Czech Republic 800-142-494
- Saudi Arabia 800-844-9457
- Denmark 8001-6098
- Singapore 800-1100-113
- Dominica 1-800-307-7309
- South Africa 0800-990418
- Dominican Republic 1-800-307-7309
- Spain 900-822-756
- Finland 08001-156234
- Sweden 020-791-324
- France 0-800-90-1387
- Switzerland 0800-897-092
- Germany 0800-071-3542
- Taiwan 00801-10-3400
- Greece 00-800-11-887-0303
- Thailand 001-800-11-887-0663
- Grenada 1-800-307-7309
- Trinidad and Tobago 1-800-307-7309
- Guam 1-800-307-7309
- Turkey 00-800-13-887-0903
- Guatemala 1-800-999-1480
- Turks and Caicos 01-800-307-7309
- Hong Kong 800-966677
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- United Kingdom 0800-96-4767
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- United States 1-800-307-7309
- Indonesia 001803-1-887-0623
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- Ireland 1-800-55-7378
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- Israel 180-941-8873
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- Argentina 0800-666-0171
- Aruba 800-1518
- Australia 1-800-125-440
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- Bahrain 800-006
- Barbados 1-800-847-2911
- Belgium 0800-1-8397
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- Bulgaria 00-800-0010Δ888-557-4446
- Cambodia 1-800-881-001Δ888-710-7783
- Canada 1-800-847-2911
- Cayman Islands 1-800-847-2911
- Chile 1230-020-2136
- Mainland China (South) 10-800-110-2911
- Mainland China (North) 10-800-711-2911
- Colombia 01-800-912-5713
- Costa Rica 0-800-011-0030
- Croatia 0-800-220-111Δ866-654-0125
- Curacao* 001-800-847-2911
- Czech Republic 800-142-121
- Denmark 80-010277
- Dominica 1-800-847-2911
- Dominican Republic 1-800-847-2911
- Ecuador 1-999-119 or 1-800-225-528Δ800-847-2911
- Egypt (Cairo only) 2510-0200Δ866-654-0128
- Egypt (outside Cairo) 02-2510-0200Δ866-654-0128
- El Salvador 800-6921
- Estonia 800-12001Δ800-406-9982
- Finland 0800-11-0057
- France 0800-90-1179
- Germany 0800-000-6510
- Gibraltar 8800-877-3745966
- Greece 00-800-11-638-0304
- Grenada 1-800-847-2911
- Guam 1-800-847-2911
- Guatemala 1-800-999-0115
- Guyana 159Δ1-855-477-1390
- Honduras 800-0123Δ800-847-2911
- Hong Kong 800-96-7025
- Hungary 06-800-17682
- India 000-800-100-1219
- Indonesia 001-803-1-933-6294
- Ireland, Republic of 1-800-55-8002
- Israel 1-80-941-1605
- Italy 800-819-014
- Jamaica 0-800-847-2911
- Japan 00531-11-1555
- Jordan 1-880-0000Δ888-557-4442
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- Latvia 8000-02288
- Lebanon 01-426-801Δ866-654-0130
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- Luxembourg 0800-2012
- Macedonia 0800-94288Δ888-557-4458
- Malaysia 1800-80-0159
- Mauritius 01-120Δ866-654-0165
- Mexico 001-800-847-2911
- Monaco 0800-90-1179
- Montserrat 1-800-847-2911
- Morocco 002-11-0011Δ866-654-0163
- Netherlands 0800-022-3110
- Nevis 1-800-847-2911
- New Zealand 0800-44-3019
- Norway 800-12052
- Panama 001-800-111-0016
- Paraguay 008-11-800Δ800-599-1137
- Perú 001-800-890-0623
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- Saint Eustatius* 1-800-847-2911
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- Saint Maarten* 1-800-847-2911
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- Saudi Arabia 1-800-10Δ866-654-0129
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- United Kingdom 0800-89-1725
- United States 1-800-847-2911
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France's warship builder Naval Group investigates 1TB data breach
France's state-owned defense firm Naval Group is investigating a cyberattack after 1TB of allegedly stolen data was leaked on a hacking forum.
Google Assistant Is Basically on Life Support and Things Just Got Worse
Google Assistant Is Basically on Life Support and Things Just Got Worse
Lots of Google Home users say they can't even turn their lights on or off right now.James Pero (Gizmodo)
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So Google half baked a product, pushed it to the public whether they wanted it or not, and now it's giving up on it replacing it with another half baked product nobody asked for...
Seems par for the course for Google
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As has Siri.
It used to have all kinds of plugins, like Wolfram|Alpha, that let you do fun and silly things with it.
It's simply gone downhill ever since.
The new Apple intelligence siri is arguably even worse. I tried asking it what the date would be next Tuesday, all I got back was "I don't understand".
Unintelligent Siri managed to crack that one without fault.
I put them back up a few months ago and it sure seems worse to me. Always triggering on random conversations, or to dialog on TV. Anyway they are permanent residents of the closet now. They suck.
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IIRC it's supposed to be getting better rapidly, as it's an active focus of development for Home Assistant.
That said, I thought seemed like a good guide on how to set it up as of 8 months ago. (I'm not necessarily a fan of that guy's bombastic over-enthusiasm, but the info seems good.)
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Home Assistant Voice Preview Edition
Bring choice to voice - the best way to get started with voiceHome Assistant
It does! I have my bedroom one controlled through it and even showing up as a play target for Spotify Connect. I've got my speakers I was plugging into my phone to play music before, or into a Raspi briefly, plugged into the 3.5mm jack on that one.
My kitchen one I just leave as-is. I DID modify the ESPHome firmware on each, extending to add an OLED (I think) clock display that also shows remaining time for timers in numbers. I do really like the LED ring animation for timers built-in though, it's pretty slick!
I wish I could get Home Assistant working with my nest minis.
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Get an ESP32, a temperature sensor, and 4x relay board and build your own with esphome!
If you pull the instructions for your thermostat, the wiring guide should tell you what each wire is for (because you can't trust wire colors). From there it's just wiring up the relays properly, getting the config built in esphome, and setting up a generic thermostat.
It sounds kinda daunting, but it's really not super complex. The only gotchas too look out for are any of the relays that can't be on when another relay is on. There's a way to prevent that in esphome. I'm sure someone has made a guide on it by now. I would have made one if I had gotten my enclosure figured out before my 3D printer took a hiatus.
I bought a Honeywell Z-Wave thermostat because I have a more complicated HVAC setup than the typical American home. It was one of the few I could find that was compliant with a home automation protocol that didn't require something that announced its existence to the Internet. It's been solidly reliable, replacing my dead Nest thermostat.
The thermostat:
Cool, I've come across this before. I have been looking for a more open thermostat, preferably esp32 based, that I can have good local control over. I have started to do the board layout for one with some air quality sensors built in.
If you don't mind me asking whats more complicated about your hvac setup? Multistage? Heat pump? Multizone?
TEMP-1 Temperature Sensor For Home Assistant | Apollo Automation
TEMP-1 is a ESP32 controller with a 1.5m waterproof flat temperature probe that can be used with your Home Assistant. Check the specs here.Apollo Automation
I ended up picking up two of the Home Assistant Voice PE devices and I've been fairly happy with them. I even extended their firmware so I have a clock display on each with one being my bedroom alarm clock even. But even out of the box functionality, as long as you can either run faster-whisper on Home Assistant (or another box), or don't mind their lighter device-control-only route, is totally solid.
Plus music streaming to them (with an external speaker attached via the 3.5mm jack) is pretty good!
GitHub - justLV/onju-voice: A hackable AI home assistant platform
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As I understand it, Google mostly ships new stuff that they let die because it's one of the only ways to get a promotion at Google - to ship a product.
Once shipped, the newly promoted staff moves on to something else, and the business people take a look and see if the product actually makes any sense from a financial perspective, which is rarely the case.
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You got to love the author of that article. If you want the lights to turn off and on normally, maybe people should use light switches. Those aren't going to break due to software downgrades, those don't require Gemini or internet connections.
And I understand, there are rare situations when throwing the internet at your home appliances can make sense for solving niche problems. Those situations definitely exist, but for almost everyone almost all of the time, but it's pretty fucking easy to turn lights off and on.
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These just dont need to be online. 90% of the use I have seen is timers and lights, like a half step above hello world.
There is a market for voice assistants that are local.
I did see something recently about local LLMs and voice input layers. The post made it seem very Jarvis like, think it may have been the voice used or the name.
Knowing nothing about tech other than I want my privacy I am hoping it is feasible for the common man
There's a mode for voice control that is even friendly to a Raspi 4 or 5, but it's very simplistic in control, basically a super lightweight speech to text trained only on device names and aliases. Think the speech to text in late 2000s through early 2010s non-smart phones.
Small models for faster-whisper will run on even my little Dell Micro i5-6500T that I have Home Assistant running on, it's just a little bit slow, but it absolutely works and is usable speed! I run a larger model currently offloaded to my server, which has an RTX 2070 Super in it, but that's to make it perform more like how Google used to a long time ago, and it's unused power most of the time.
They're trying to make it as accessible as possible for sure. There's even options to use cloud STT and TTS (they even include it in the Home Assistant Cloud optional feature), but it's definitely cool as hell to be able to talk to an open-source-design speaker and get a reply and control any switches or lights or even my thermostat and robo vacuum without needing the Internet to work. As long as my Wi-Fi and HA box are up, I've got options!
It has several modes. The most basic is speech to text, pattern match, then implement. It also has text to speak for feedback. No actual AI in the loop.
It's also capable of tying to AI models in various ways. It's mainly intended for question answering. Either general, or about your data.
I personally don't trust a non-deterministic AI having direct control of my house, so the split is useful.
We have leak sensors in the basement brewery and sockets that help the hubs ADHD and anxiety (did i forget to turn X off? I shall check my phone), all running through a HA server. A mate has literally programmed in migraine protocols.
Automation ain't bad. Capitalism is what the haters are angry at. Wish they'd go shit on that instead of stupid commentary about laziness.
You can get socket extensions where the bulb goes into it and then each extension is connected to a wall mount remote switch. No wifi needed and then you have a wall switch for each bulb.
Doesn't fit into every light fixture though depends on the design.
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Long time google assistant user, but them putting Gemini in it is what I'm afraid of, not the solution.
This is yet another "google released a product, didn't know what to do with it, and made zero updates over the last decade, so now they're killing it." I don't think they've ever fixed the bugs that existed the first day I bought mine. The speaker is handy for casting to, but also cast is a shitty non-open protocol.
Kinda just agree with the "everything in this space sucks" unfortunately.
My how things have changed over the years! Why, when I was a young girl, we didn't have the internet. When we wanted to turn a light on, we had to write a letter to Ford Motor Co. (They were the tech of the day.) I'd write, "Dear Mr. Ford, please give us permission to turn on our light in the dining room." Of course then we'd have to find a stamp, then walk the letter down to the nearest post office. (That was faster than waiting for the mailman to pick it up from the neighborhood mail box.) Sure enough, 6 weeks later we'd receive a reply saying, "Fine, turn on the light in the dining room." The postman delivered mail in the morning, so we had to wait until dark to all gather around in the dining room and turn on the light with great ceremony.
We never understood why we needed to get permission from a company far away to turn on a light switch, but we were patriotic Americans, so we knew better than to question the process.
Enshitification...
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[Announcement] Path of Exile 2 Boss Rush Event at PAX West
The Path of Exile 2 Boss Rush Event is coming to PAX West on August 29! Kill as many bosses as you can in 20 minutes, and win some cool prizes.
Choose between 7 preconstructed character builds, one for each class, then see how many bosses you can kill. Before each boss are a few packs of monsters so you can test out your skills, before getting to the main event. Then throw yourself at the boss for as many attempts as it takes to bring it down.
After you kill the boss, a portal will open up to the next arena, and the level of all subsequent bosses will increase. There are 15 bosses in all, we highly doubt you can kill them all!
Above the booth will be a live leaderboard featuring the top Exiles able to kill the most bosses in the shortest period of time.
If you're planning to visit the expo - in between playing the new content update for Path of Exile 2 launching the same weekend - make sure to check out our booth! All visitors will have the chance to earn Path of Exile 2 merchandise prizes depending on how many bosses you can kill.
- When - August 29 - September 1
- Where - Booth#2309
Good luck, Exiles!
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in reply to solrize • • •Well that's just great.
Here's the website to see if your PIxel6a is an "impacted device". Mine isn't, not sure why... zero transparency on this.
support.google.com/pixelphone?…
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in reply to rc__buggy • • •Thanks for the link. I put my phone's info in and it told me I'm eligible. But the color of the phone was completely wrong.
I'm done with Pixels. The first one was amazing. But the quality has been going gradually downhill for both the main series and the A series phones.
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in reply to 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 • • •I love how they just make things worse indiscriminately now. Like you'd expect that if a company turns evil, they make things worse for profit, but google often doesn't even care about that and makes everything worse randomly.
The clearest example I have is the maps app, which used to let you tap once to clear the search and directions bars off the screen. They removed that in one update for absolutely no fucking reason, so now a third+ of the screen is blocked at all times. If that space displayed ads or something at least I'd get that they were making an app shittier for profit, but nowadays more often than not everything just seems to be shitty because they don't give a fuck anymore.
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in reply to sem • • •Apparently they design phones that'll last just over a year before self-igniting.
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in reply to cabbage • • •MurrayL
in reply to cabbage • • •Does 400 charge cycles really amount to just over a year of use for most people? I’m assuming one cycle means a full power cycle, not just a top up.
For reference (and I understand it’s a bit apples to oranges) I’ve had my iPhone 15 since Dec 2023 and charge it every night and it’s currently showing 125 charge cycles.
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in reply to sem • • •Oh well they were forced to acknowledge a problem that needed a fix and what they did was they asked Gemini how do we fix this which Gemini had zero problems at all, not even an inconvenience, in giving them it's fix so that's what they went with without a single further thought employed in the matter
They really liked it when the response started with it's super easy
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in reply to Blue_Morpho • • •I want a fairphone 4 with either e/OS or Ubuntu touch. It's still a little out of my price range though.
I would love to run grapheneOS on my phone, but I'm not willing to pay Google to not use Android.
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in reply to 18107 • • •Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC / X3 • Ubuntu Touch • Linux Phone
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in reply to qweertz (they/she) • • •And then you indirectly pay google as you fund the people who buy google phones every time a new one comes out.
Yes it is the best way to buy a google phone, but you are still supporting google in most cases.
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in reply to 18107 • • •You can donate to GrapheneOS and I highly doubt that the hardware of the Fairphone is open
e/OS is a joke btw
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in reply to Resonosity • • •Of course: discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134…
Edit: this one as well grapheneos.org/faq#device-supp…
Devices lacking standard privacy/security patches and protections aren't private - GrapheneOS Discussion Forum
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in reply to ramenshaman • • •Yo, from one type 1 to another, get yourself some xdrip to replace the dexcom app, its miles ahead and more configurable.
github.com/NightscoutFoundatio…
And depending on which omnipod you got, and how technical you are, check out AndroidAPS if you want an open source closed-loop solution.
androidaps.readthedocs.io/en/l…
If you got the omnipod dash you can use it directly with AndroidAPS via Bluetooth.
I use both of these with dexcom G6 and an accu-chek Bluetooth insulin pump, and its amazing vs the commercial solutions.
GitHub - NightscoutFoundation/xDrip: Nightscout version of xDrip+
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in reply to paper_moon • • •Sometimes in the darkness of the internet where all our worst sides come out and I get trampled by the evil of governments, corporations, and people in general...a small beam of light shines through illuminating the beauty of this world.
Today, your comment is that beam of light. You didn't mean it to be, but sometimes little things have bigger impacts. Thank you. Have a great day.
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in reply to solrize • • •I just got rid of my Pixel 6a because it had one of the bad batteries. Tip to anyone taking advantage of the trade in rebate, DO NOT get the $150 Google Store credit and be like me thinking you can use it on the Google Fi Store to purchase a new Pixel. The $150 store credit is only towards the purchase of a Pixel phone via the Google Store. Take the $100 cash rebate option instead because it tells you once you choose either option, you cannot change it.
My hope was to get the Pixel 9a on my account for $249 (activation discount) on my account and then use the $150 store credit... nope.
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in reply to PagPag • • •It's all well and good being oh so principled like you're making yourself out to be, but phones are expensive, and the above user is being completely rational for wanting to settle on a Pixel 9a for $250, especially when the other OEMs have plenty of their own problems.
Get off your moral high horse.
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in reply to Zarxrax • • •I too don't understand why you would be responsible for THEM breaking the screen.
Imagine your mechanic breaks a part while changing your oil then says you're responsible for the cost of it.
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in reply to Peppycito • • •If the carmaker has a recall on the airbags, and the dealer breaks the instrument cluster in the process of replacing the airbag assembly, you're goddamn right I'm not paying for the instrument cluster. I don't care if the car is ten years old. It's a recall, which means it's bad design and always was. That is 100% on the mechanic, the manufacturer, and the engineer that designed the instrument cluster to break if the airbag is replaced.
They can fuck right off with that shit
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in reply to Tangent5280 • • •Samsung locks the bootloader, even for carrier unlocked versions traight from samsung's website. (At least for those sold in the US, not sure about other places)
If you don't intend to use a custom RON like Lineage OS, you wouldn't notice a difference. But if you do, then it might be a dealbreaker. As for the Xcover series in particularx the specs are worse for the amount you're paying. Camera is worse, SoC is slower, assuming if you are conparing the price of a brand new mainstream S or A series phones to a brand new Xcover series. But if you don't care about worse specs for the swappable battery, then sure, go ahead. I personally wouldn't get the Xcover series, doesn't seem like a good deal, the screen is LCD and I'm way too used to OLED/AMOLED of the more mainstream phones.
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in reply to solrize • • •The EU will require all smartphones to have replaceable batteries by 2027
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in reply to Kaiserschmarrn • • •That's for "easily replaceable" batteries, not necessarily swappable, as in pop off the cover and insert new battery.
The new Fairphone 6, for example, requires a screw driver to open up the phone, and that would meet the legal requirements of the EU law.
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in reply to shortwavesurfer • • •DefederateLemmyMl
in reply to surewhynotlem • • •The battery of my Pixel 6 started to bloat and leak last week. I contacted support. After a bit of back and forth where they asked me to provide proof of purchase and pictures of the phone, they sent me a brand new Pixel 6 and told me to just recycle the old one.
I reported the issue on Tuesday, received the new phone on Friday. That's not bad support for a 4 year old device that's long out of warranty. I fully expected them to tell me to go F my self.
sudoer777
in reply to DefederateLemmyMl • • •Zaphod
in reply to solrize • • •SirSamuel
in reply to Zaphod • • •Old? I have a 7a and i just bought it from Google…
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Two years ago.
Shit. I guess that is old in phone years
Next you'll be saying people born in the eighties are old
Tempus Fugit
in reply to Zaphod • • •Armand1
in reply to solrize • • •like this
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D_C
in reply to Armand1 • • •I think, but 100% on this, that not all 6a's were affected.
Patch it to the latest update. If you get a notification about your battery then it's probably fucked.
forrgott
in reply to D_C • • •zephiriz
in reply to solrize • • •zephiriz
in reply to zephiriz • • •pHr34kY
in reply to zephiriz • • •YouthHearted
in reply to pHr34kY • • •pHr34kY
in reply to YouthHearted • • •Oh, was it $452? They didn't email a confirmation and I forgot to screenshot it.
Can someone screenshot it? That would be great.
SuperCub
in reply to zephiriz • • •zephiriz
in reply to SuperCub • • •Electricd
in reply to solrize • • •dudesss
in reply to Electricd • • •Electricd
in reply to dudesss • • •dudesss
in reply to Electricd • • •People in this thread mentions setting the phone to only charge to 80%, it will hell extend battery life.
Settings -> Battery -> Charging Optimization
Electricd
in reply to dudesss • • •dudesss
in reply to Electricd • • •SpiceDealer
in reply to solrize • • •Lka1988
in reply to SpiceDealer • • •spookedintownsville
in reply to solrize • • •ThePowerOfGeek
in reply to spookedintownsville • • •I put my IMEI in and it said I was eligible. But then it gets stuck in an infinite loop of support links with no option out (at least when I selected to get a replacement battery). Edit: I got free of the loop, but the nearest place to take my phone into to get the battery replaced is 100 miles away!
I think I'm just going to get a new phone and move on. Not a Pixel though. Fuck this noise. My wife had a Pixel 5a and the motherboard fried itself after a couple of years. Google sent her a Pixel 6a replacement about 2 months later (long after we'd found her a non-Pixel replacement). So I upgraded to that replacement for in a 4a. But now this battery/fire bullshit? I'm done with their shitty products and their shitty support!
SheeEttin
in reply to spookedintownsville • • •spookedintownsville
in reply to SheeEttin • • •shaggyb
in reply to solrize • • •I have owned 3 pixels.
5a - bricked randomly
8 - screen failed within 6 months
6a - stuck in a bootloop, gave up on fixing it just before the battery issue made headlines
I gave them a fair shake. Never again.
PraiseTheSoup
in reply to shaggyb • • •Before the pixel existed I owned a Google Nexus ~~5~~ 4 which was manufactured by LG and to date that was the worst phone I've ever owned. I guess my point is it doesn't matter who is manufacturing the hardware; if Google is involved it's gonna be junk.
Edit: it was a 4 not a 5 but either way it was such an awful experience I've never bought another piece of Google hardware since
MBech
in reply to PraiseTheSoup • • •PraiseTheSoup
in reply to MBech • • •MBech
in reply to PraiseTheSoup • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to PraiseTheSoup • • •I had a Nexus 5 (also LG) and it was the best I'd had for years. Ran lineageOS on it (maybe it was CyanogenMod still I can't remember) but that thing was the shit.
I left it on top of my car once and ended up destroying it. Swapped the modem into an EU model (the modem and GPS module survived, all other components failed) and had basically a brand new phone afterwards.
ragas
in reply to PraiseTheSoup • • •The Nexus 4 was a great phone in my opinion.
Had it rooted and everything for about 6 years.
Lka1988
in reply to PraiseTheSoup • • •tamal3
in reply to Lka1988 • • •SheeEttin
in reply to shaggyb • • •The 8 had known screen issues, and they were fixed even out of warranty. After six months it would have been within warranty, so you definitely should have been able to get that fixed. I know, I had to have mine replaced too.
I've had a 4, 6, and 8. No issues. But I know that if I do have hardware issues, Google will address them like these screen and battery issues.
shaggyb
in reply to SheeEttin • • •During which time I have no phone.
Not acceptable. Bought something else.
SheeEttin
in reply to shaggyb • • •shaggyb
in reply to SheeEttin • • •Cool. I'm not going to do that another three times when I can spend less money on phones that don't break.
Not to mention Google doesn't do stores where I live.
kadu
in reply to SheeEttin • • •A "Google Store" doesn't even exist in my country lol
WalterLego
in reply to shaggyb • • •mesa
in reply to solrize • • •Honestly, I got the 6a because it was going to be supported for a long time compared to other phones. This rubs me the wrong way.
nouben
in reply to mesa • • •That took me about a week to get my money.
Got a fairphone now instead 😎
Vinstaal0
in reply to mesa • • •Considering it is a Google phone their long term support is still crap compared to things like Fairphone or even iPhone.
But it sucks that this happens and I hope they contact you for a trade in. Rules are also changing so all phones need to have a minimum lifespan of 5 years or so
kadu
in reply to Vinstaal0 • • •At least it beats Samsung, I'm not buying any product from them ever again
Vinstaal0
in reply to kadu • • •daw
in reply to solrize • • •Oh shit I didn't hear about the 6a also being fucked.
I lost my 4a to their shenanigans, couldn't get it repaired and have now a Xcover 6 pro which I bought refurbished.
Best modern phone: swappable battery, headphone jack, long software support, micro sd
solrize
in reply to daw • • •daw
in reply to solrize • • •ipkpjersi
in reply to solrize • • •Xatolos
in reply to ipkpjersi • • •support.google.com/pixelphone/…
ipkpjersi
in reply to Xatolos • • •moseschrute
in reply to solrize • • •dudesss
in reply to solrize • • •I got an extra 30% battery life after switching to GrapheneOS. I'm guessing whatever is saving my battery, would also bring down the load on the system.
I did notice my phone heats up much less after switching to GrapheneOS.
mastod0n
in reply to dudesss • • •pHr34kY
in reply to dudesss • • •I've been runnnng GrapheneOS with charge capped at 80%. Phone has not emulated thermite.
I haven't found any discussion about the battery issues at GrapheneOS yet.
tamal3
in reply to pHr34kY • • •CeeBee_Eh
in reply to tamal3 • • •stellargmite
in reply to CeeBee_Eh • • •Croquette
in reply to stellargmite • • •adavis
in reply to stellargmite • • •pHr34kY
in reply to CeeBee_Eh • • •Yep. It's the capacity.
Anyone can cap the charging speed by using a garbage $2 700mA charger from 2008.
mazzilius_marsti
in reply to dudesss • • •InternetCitizen2
in reply to mazzilius_marsti • • •dudesss
in reply to mazzilius_marsti • • •I have no recommendations for versions. Depends in your case.
Although I'll mention that some people don't like that Pixel by default doesn't include the bottom menu on the screen, and uses other swiping features on the screen to do the same thing.
However in your system settings you can change the UI to gave the navigation menu at the bottom of the screen similar to Samsung.
Capricorn_Geriatric
in reply to solrize • • •