Oggi, 29 luglio, 125 anni fa, nel parco di Monza l'uccisione del Re d'Italia Umberto I
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Il re era stato invitato alla cerimonia di chiusura della società di ginnastica Forti e Liberi in via Matteo da Campione: dopo essere arrivato in carrozza e aver assistito agli esercizi ginnici ed al discorso di premiazione del prof. Draghino, si avviò verso la carrozza alle 21:30 per tornare a Villa Reale. Mentre usciva dal portone, dove c'era una folla di ginnasti, si avvicinò Gaetano Bresci che lo colpì tre volte con il revolver, sparando il quarto colpo a vuoto. Il Re fu colpito sia al volto che alla gola.
I cavalli si imbizzarrirono e il re venne portato il prima possibile a Villa Reale, ma vi giunse esanime. Bresci venne circondato dai carabinieri, coi quali ebbe una colluttazione, strappò a uno di loro la divisa e infine venne catturato dal maresciallo dei carabinieri Locatelli in collaborazione con un pompiere e portato nella guardina della caserma dei carabinieri. Il re, affidato ai medici chirurghi Vincenzo Vercelli e Attilio Savio (quest'ultimo anche assessore comunale), venne da loro dichiarato morto alle 22:40.
Zelensky backtracks on law over anti-corruption bodies after protests
Zelensky backtracks on law over anti-corruption bodies after protests
The legislation sparked the largest anti-government protests since the start of the war.Laura Gozzi (BBC News)
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One in five children in Gaza City is malnourished, UN aid agency says
One in five children in Gaza City is malnourished, UN aid agency says
The UN agency for Palestinians says it has thousands of truckloads of supplies near Gaza which it wants to deliver.Aoife Walsh and Paulin Kola (BBC News)
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Among other problems that it causes, child malnutrition has lifelong impacts on the brain.
Remember this when Israelis do surprised Pikachu faces in 10-15 years when the next October 7th style atrocity happens and they ask like pearl clutching fuckfaces "why do they hate us?". THIS. THIS is why they will hate you deeply and viscerally for the rest of their lives. You literally used reinforcement learning to train them to profoundly hate you.
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And our legal system.
Ending borders is a noble ideal but it's not currently practical. People need many of the services their country provides, like healthcare, elderly care, pensions, unemployment assistance etc.
With no national boundaries, and no alternative system in place, society as we know it collapses.
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Non tangible things are still real. Families are real.
The creation of complex systems is uniquely human and is what allows development and progress.
Without these systems, laws and things including incorporatng non human entities has pros and cons. Development of healthcare and increasing longevity and increased food production, sanitation and reduction in hunger are a benefit. War and genocide are a problem. However, wars still happened before the introduction of borders. See Norse vikings, Roman empire creation etc.
However, wars still happened before the introduction of borders
The concept of borders did not exist yet but the earliest wars was definitely about territories control for accessing more natural resources . It's basically the same
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This implies that the resources the people of Nataruk had at the time were valuable and worth fighting for, whether it was water, dried meat or fish, gathered nuts or indeed women and children. This shows that two of the conditions associated with warfare among settled societies—control of territory and resources— were probably the same for these hunter-gatherers, and that we have underestimated their role in prehistory.
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Realities nonetheless.
Laws exist because we say they do. Society and people follow patterns because of these laws. Abolishing these laws and borders would lead to societal breakdown without an alternative system to replace them.
Families are also constructs, borne of genetic reproduction. however we now understand them to include marriage and adoption and blended families. All constructs. All legalized also.
The legal system also only exists because we wrote our thoughts down.
so does math. still nobody would argue that math is wrong or arbitrary because of that
There are and have been many different legal systems throughout the world and history. The one we’re familiar with is from the Romans - hence all the Latin legal terms - and was spread by colonialism.
It is nothing like math, which was discovered independently by various cultures around the world.
For more details read chapter 7 of David Graeber’s “Debt”
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well i guess law was originally derived from people's ambition towards power and society's need to still be organized. that's a universal phenomenon, even if you encountered an exotic animal species on another planet, i reckon.
that's what makes it more universal than you think.
a lot of details in our law are arbitrary, but so is math notation and even a lot of conventions that we use (consider 2π = 6.28 instead of π = 6.28). still, the core of the field is universal, i believe.
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Lol so I agree with you 100%. There is a strong case against the recognition of any states on that basis.
But, so long as we have a legal system that functions on the basis of this social construct, the idea that we should capriciously decide to recognize or not recognize various states doesn’t serve any practical purpose that I can see.
Especially when they, as a matter of fact, do exercise authority over a given territory.
Yes, as long as the people with guns say I must believe in states I will pretend to believe in states.
Like a toddler of the corn with an imaginary friend.
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I am not speaking of a “they”, but of a “what.”
israel is a group of invasive terrorists who, for almost a century now, or more depending on inclusion of zionism, have invaded a land that was already a nation on its own and already recognized by the world.
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Isn't a group a "they" and not a "what". Israel is a nation of people who sees themselves as Israeli. Entire generations are born there and consider that land their home. You can't be born a terrorist.
It's possible in the future to build some kinda secular Haifa Republic but this war has made that an incredibly utopian prospect.
It's not clear what position you advocate except the continuation of war.
so where was that logic when palestine was literally invaded by a group of europeans calling themselves zionists? or europeans claiming some sort of “british mandate”?
revert it to palestine. it’s what it was before our grandparents generation invaded.
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Did I give some indication that I disagree with that idea? Lol
I find that “recognition” is just a tool that powerful nations use to oppress less powerful polities. That’s why I am arguing against it.
There’s no contradiction between this argument and anarchism. As I said elsewhere in the thread, I don’t believe states should exist. But giving the US, China, and other imperial powers the right to decide which ones are acknowledged or dismissed is part of the problem.
The first part applies to... Most of the world outside of Europe?
The second part applies, to lesser degrees, to a large part of the world. Such as the USA.
What even is this argument. Israel's not a state? Well fucking great, so following that logic which state should we hold responsible for Israel's crimes then?
Europe's colonial past is a whole-ass subject but amongst all the potential ways to try to make up for it, "stop formally recognizing former colonies because we fucked it up too badly" is one of the worst takes I've heard.
state held responsible? PEOPLE, individuals, yes. People who are running that terrorist shitshow. Members of various places around the world. And yes. That includes a lot of people. Sanctions on a state never work. People need prison. for crimes against humanity.
Stop pretending it is ok that israel exist as a recognized nation; it is younger than some of the people still living there!
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So there are two interpretations I could make of your comment, one of which is more charitable than the other.
- You are using the Chinese and Israeli playbook of weaponizing statehood recognition as a value judgement. That is profoundly problematic, both on a practical and a philosophical level. De-humanization should not be a tool we have to use on our enemies. Our moral high ground should speak for itself.
- Your are dog-whistling for the genocide and/or deportation of all Israelis. In which case our conversation is done here.
To be clear, Israel is committing genocide and every single member of its government and of the IDF should be tried at The Hague. But laws and international order exist for a reason, and trying to circumvent them like this is a very bad look that Israel has been rightfully criticized for for decades.
where do I mention a people should not exist? never.
the state itself was created by a group knowing full well they would need genocide to make their state. they call it, these days, “mowing the lawn.” the criminals need prison and the working class people who just want peace deserve it. in Palestine.
the tricky part of these convos is not conflating the nation state, israel with the Jewish people. Or zionism with the Jewish people. Or the state israel with the followers of Israel.
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So no Israel, just Palestine? That would leave Israelis a majority population in Palestine. Do you expect Israelis to magically not outvote the Palestinians, or are you proposing an autocracy or an apartheid system stripping Israelis of their voting rights?
I would also strongly suggest you do some reading on the factors leading up to the Rwandan genocide. A "just" peace isn't enough; after generations of life under apartheid, there are no easy or quick paths to lasting peace. I won't commit the hubris of pretending I have a definitive solution, and I think it's important to underline that as outsiders to the conflict, the best we can do is offer to safeguard peace. That's what the Two-State Solution was meant to do, that's what arms sanctions are meant to do, that's what the threat of economic retaliation would be meant to do (granted each with their own significant shortcomings). Denying the practical existence of either Israel or Palestine is antithetical to building a path towards lasting peace and a meaningful international effort towards safeguarding said peace.
For a practical example, assuming a peace treaty ever gets signed, sending UN Blue Helmets would be diplomatically easier if all parties involved recognized Palestine and Israel as sovereign states. Even if that all seems like a moot point right now what when neither Israel nor most Western nations are actually looking forward to peace.
In this context? Someone who is currently on the good side of the current apartheid system in Israel/Palestine.
Don't play dumb with me, you know full well what I meant. If you have a point, make it.
those folk are Palestinian. that’s my entire point.
yes apartheid exists. shooting for a two state solution codifies this apartheid. that is wrong.
it needs to be completely reverted and the folks physically doing the genocide given the proper sentences.
it’s simple:
the criminals doing a genocide go to prison.
the nation state gets dissolved.
one state is left, palestine.
stop being so thick about this. the nation of israel should not exist. that does not mean the people who follow israel. you know the difference.
And I want a unicorn for Christmas.
Look, right now I don't even have a good reason to hope that Israel will be stopped before they finish their genocide. But step 1 is to get a permanent ceasefire in place. Whatever fantasies we might have beyond that is a moot point. But recognizing both parties as sovereign would go some way towards facilitating the terms and enforcement of that ceasefire.
yeah. it might. but it’s never ever worked out in the history of man when one party is doing a genocide. it took a few million russians to stop a famous genocidal ass in the 20th century.
the key here is that we cannot enable this behavior by acknowledging it as any kind of “ok.”
The second part applies, to lesser degrees, to a large part of the world. Such as the USA.
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Why? Do you actually believe states have rights?
States are invented, lines are drawn on maps and people are divided by elites, it's silly to insist that a genocidal ethno state should simple continue to exist because it already exists.
We don't want a two state solution, we want one state where everyone is treated equally regardless of religion.
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No, I’d rather see them abolished. But they do exist, and allowing the US or Europe to decide which ones are acknowledged is a big problem in today’s world.
People who exercise their own autonomy should have that autonomy acknowledged. Full stop. Pretending it doesn’t exist is harmful, even if that autonomy is being used to hurt people.
Of course we can. We can stop funding them financially and militarily, we can stop doing business with them, and we can refuse their citizens travel, until they stop genocide and end apartheid.
You're pretending like this isn't common place already, it's just unfathomable that it can happen to Israel for some reason?
That has nothing to do with "stop recognizing them as a country" and the west loses more by not allowing citizens travel (because people wouldn't be able to go to holy sites, it works both way).
And man, the EU can't even properly sanction Russia, do you really think they care about the middle east at all? Specially when not even the countries around care about Palestina.
Pretending it doesn’t exist is harmful, even if that autonomy is being used to hurt people.
What? What is this "pretending"? What do you think we're talking about? And what makes pretending Israel isn't a state, if that's what you understood being said, harmful?
I’d rather see them abolished
That's what we're talking about. Let's abolish Israel, and create a new state for all the people, historically we'd call that Palestine, but I'm okay with coming up with a new name.
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But does that mean they'll recognize the genocide?
It's like saying they'll recognize the house but won't acknowledge that it's on fire.
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It's just gaslighting and fooling people.
Palestinians already has the right to defense based on UN general assembly 37/43, un general assembly resolution 2625 and Article 1(4) of the Geneva Protocol I. Even
If you read the official document written to Traitor and Israeli asset Abbass you will see that it talk about right to Israel to live in security but not for Palestinians, they ask to demilitarize all Palestine without any security guarantees and a vow to stop the occupation .
We all know that the USA will never allow Palestine to be recognized anyway. Even it does, countries don't have to wait for Palestine to be recognized to do their obligation and sanctions Israel state wide and stop any military collaboration since they signed genocide and Geneva conventions
The USA and Israel will always try to stop any aid and support to reach Palestinians
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Macron and the Recognition of a Palestinian State: The Stated Position and Its Prospects
Policy Brief – Progress Center for PoliciesIntroduction:French President Emmanuel Macron’s recent statements about the potential recognition of a Palestinian state have triggered widespread reactions, with many questioning the seriousness and feasibicapadmin (Progress Center For Policies)
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Well ideally for Israel, we all just forget this whole ordeal once they get the genocide done.
Their entire play is:
whoops, we did it again,
we played with your hearts
Got lost in the game
but bro trust me, this time for real:
never again
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I think the guy above you is asking what is Macron recognising as "Palestine". As in does he recognise Palestine as a state under attack by Israel for example, and in recognising Palestine, does he also say that Israel is unlawfully occupying their territory.
Or what exactly does Macron say Palestine's legitimate government is. Hamas? Fatah? The Knesset?
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I am not saying they can't do more, or that they are not culpable.
I am saying that this is Macron inching away from the genocidal chorus towards the side trying to do something. I am not even saying he's actually going to take that side, just that maybe he will.
I am saying that this is Macron inching away from the genocidal chorus towards the side trying to do something
Congrats you got fooled, that's exactly what Israel and macron want you to believe
THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC
Paris, July 24, 2025
Mr. President,
By letter dated June 9, 2025, you informed France and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia of the will of the Palestinian Authority to put an end to the war in Gaza with a view to achieving just and lasting peace in the region, while strongly reaffirming its support for the implementation of the two-state solution. You condemned the terrorist attacks of October 7, 2023, and called for the immediate release of hostages held by Hamas, advocated the disarmament of Hamas, and its withdrawal from the governance of Gaza. You highlighted the commitment of the Palestinian Authority to fully assume its responsibilities in all Palestinian territories, including Gaza, to undergo deep reforms, and to organize presidential and legislative elections in 2026 in order to strengthen its legitimacy and authority over the future Palestinian State, which you emphasized should not be militarized.
I commend these courageous commitments and, in return, I inform you of France's mobilization in favor of the implementation of the two-state solution, with Israel and Palestine living side by side in peace and security. This solution constitutes the only path that can respond to the legitimate aspirations of Israelis as well as Palestinians. We must now achieve it as quickly as possible.
Civilian populations have paid an unbearable price during the terrorist attacks of October 7 by Hamas and during the war pursued by Israel in Gaza. At the same time, the prospect of a negotiated solution to the conflict in the Middle East seems to be receding. I do not accept this.
His Excellency Mr. Mahmoud ABBAS
President of the Palestinian Authority
No condemnation of Israel occupation , blaming everything on Hamas and asking demilitarization without providing zero security guarantees, yet you think macron is genuine about recognizing Palestine and about Palestinians living in peace
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France want to make you believe that they are on Palestinians side while there was always siding with Israel.
How recognizing Palestine in exchange of Palestinians disarming themselves before occupation end going to help Palestinians? Don't you realize that Israel still believe in Jewish supremacy over Palestinians . Monsters like Daniella Weiss are expressing really loudly what is the Zionists end game which is control on whole Palestine. They are lying about wanting a two state solution.
France should impose state wise sanctions on Israel just like they did with Iran and Russia and end all military cooperation's. The rest of the west too.
You don't need to flood a comment thread with the same copy/pasta over and over.
Keeping this one as the original, removing the others.
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At the next UN assembly. It says right there in the article.
Basically France now recognises the State of Palestine, and will make it official at the UN assembly.
Recognising the state of Palestine in over a month doesn't change the urgency to let aid reach Palestinians. Of course work on that front must be done as well, and sooner than September.
I just don't understand your point. How does officially recognising the statehood of Palestine now or in a month affect the current starvation crisis?
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This is part of that process. France is sort of saying that they are willing to put boots on the ground to stop this, without saying exactly that.
Because being a member state of the UN comes with perks, like the ability to request UN peace keepers.
It's still important to recognise Palestine as a state. And it doesn't delay any other action.
It seems to me that the progress you see is not the progress you want, so you consider it pointless. But the truth is, it's still progress, and it doesn't take away from the other priorities you mention.
So, once again, I don't understand your point.
Well none because they are not taking any other action...
I am not against the French recognizing Palestine as a State, I am against them (and the rest of the world) doing nothing about the immediate urgency that is the genocide Israel is actively conducting. Why is this so hard to understand?
Picture this: your house is on fire NOW, your son/daughter/dog/cat is trapped inside... nobody comes to help and then you hear the Mayor saying they will increase the Fire Fighter's budget in the next fiscal year.
I am certain you would not be against the budget increase but that really does nothing about your immediate and urgent need, does it?
Well considering your very first comment was asking "when" this was going to happen:
Picture this: your house is on fire NOW, your son/daughter/dog/cat is trapped inside... nobody comes to help and then you hear the Mayor saying they will increase the Fire Fighter's budget
And you respond by saying "When will you increase the budget?" Instead of saying what you actually need, then get upset when people respond to the question you actually asked instead of the statement you had in your head.
And again, the mayor announcing an increase in the fire fighter's budget does not slow down help for your home.
I just don’t understand your point. How does officially recognising the statehood of Palestine now or in a month affect the current starvation crisis?
That's the point, it doesn't... condemning Israel publicly, temporarily breaking economic relationship with Israel and/or urging other to so the same would (for example)
My point is this is likely just empty talk... Imagine the major of your town saying they will increase the Fire Fighters budget in the next fiscal year as a response to your house being on fire RIGHT NOW.... do you get it now?
They didn't do it, he just said they will.
They are trying to cover their assess from the accountability of being complicit with the genocide the whole time, they are counting on people like you to let them get away with it.
What does recognize Palestinian state mean? They'll give us what's left of the rubble in Gaza and the few ghettos they allow us to call the Palestinian territory in the West Bank?
Is there anything proposed that will actually give Palestinians any semblance of justice?
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"French are cowards" trope
Yeah I hate that one. France being great and the French being a bunch of legends aside, the French army is the most successful in all of history to the best of my knowledge. That one "recent" blip aside.
You have to hand it to the Germans though... The oul blitzkrieg was a game changer. No shade on the French. Maybe a little for not reinforcing the Ardennes route but sure look, hindsight is 20/20 and all that.
That one “recent” blip aside.
Even then, France held out for more days than many other WW2 countries who don't get accused of cowardice for it.
Yeah in the face of it they were pragmatic. Given the circumstances, after the initial outmanoeuvre I've never seen anyone criticise what they did with a meaningful alternative and they ate shit to get the Brits back across the channel so they could fight another day.
Vive la France! 🇫🇷
Except they paid to United States, not France.
government of the United States funded the acquisition of Haiti's treasury in 1911,[10] and in 1922, the rest of Haiti's debt was moved to be paid to American investors.[11] The New York Times states that it took until 1947 for Haiti to finally pay off all the associated interest to the National City Bank of New York (now Citibank).
Are you challenged? How do you think this happened? Haiti revolution and slavery is literally part of napoleonic wars that I mentioned, but you started saying I don't know history. How do you seemingly know stuff about Haiti, yet don't know this? Countries usually don't see something that happened a century or two ago relevant to modern times
Please, read the wiki link you sent me, but obviously failed to read it yourself, especially the part about who owned the debt after +-1900 (forgot the year, but Haiti's debt was transferred to be paid to US, not France).
Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.
Edit: major major reforms should take place of course, and Israel should dismantle apartheid and pay reparations, while Lebanon should dismantle the sectarian dysfunction of their government, but as a long term horizon this region needs the wildly successful EU model of peaceful pacification more than any other region in the world.
I know, the EU was also supposed to be the solution to the Cyprus occupation, and that didn't work either.
I'm not saying that the EU itself is the solution, but that the horizon of the EU, or at least something similar (a MEU?) could play that stabilizing role.
Membership requires that candidate country has achieved stability of institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights, respect for and protection of minorities, […].
Yeah, that's not going to happen.
Unironically, admitting Israel, Palestine and Lebanon into the European Union might actually be the solution to this whole fucking clusterfuck.
Only if the EU disarms Israel and restores the '47 border in the process, then prosecute the IDF leadership for war crimes.
Otherwise, you might as well suggest we admit Ukraine and Russia to the EU to settle that fight as well.
In France, they repressed palestinian strike, canceled meeting and media defended Israel, he told us he won't arrest Netanyahu, despiste the CPI decision. There is so many things wrong.
Even if he does it, i don't trust him, he could act long before.
Tea isn’t doing enough for users after breach, not that the users seem to care
- Tea, a dating safety app for women, is the subject of an incredibly alarming data breach.
- Tens of thousands of images submitted by users, including selfies, have been ripped from a Tea server and were posted to 4chan before being removed.
- Despite claiming that the breach only affected users who registered before February 2024, it has now come to light that hackers could read DMs between users as recently as a few weeks ago.
No business wants to shout from the rooftops that it has been breached and that the data their users entrusted them with may be circulating on the internet. It’s bad for public relations and destroys trust. However, just because it feels bad doesn’t mean that the custodians of this data can just sweep a breach under the rug.
Case in point is Tea. Tea is a dating safety app where women can share information about their previous partners in a bid to help other women who may encounter these men in the wild. Tea takes the Facebook groups and cobbled-together websites of old and puts a modern, more easily accessible twist on the practice.
Last week, however, the platform was the subject of a breach.
“We discovered unauthorised access to an archived data system,” Tea wrote in a post on its Instagram page.
“This archived system stored about 72 000 user-submitted images including approximately 13 000 images of selfies and selfies including photo identification submitted during account verification. These photos can in now way be linked to posts within Tea,” the developer wrote.
The company claimed that users who signed up for Tea after February 2024 were safe and that no email addresses or phone number were compromised. However, that’s ignoring the thousands of users who now have their data exposed. Worse still, that data system Tea mentions was posted to 4chan before it was eventually removed.
While photos can’t be linked to accounts, that’s besides the point because even just having one’s ID photo in the data dump could be incredibly dangerous for women.
And to make matters worse, somehow there has been a second incident.
As reported by [404 Media, a security researcher has discovered that it was possible for hackers to access messages between users as recently as last week. This flies in the face of Tea’s statement that no current user data is in danger. As the publication puts it, “it was trivial for 404 Media to find the real world identities of some users given the nature of their messages.”
All this while Tea continues to downplay how serious this is for its users.
Even the developer’s reasoning for why the data was breached is weak as it gets.
“During our early stages of development some legacy content was not migrated into our new fortified system. An unauthorized actor accessed our identifier link where data was stored before February 24, 2024. As we grew our community, we migrated to a more robust and secure solution which has rendered that any new users from February 2024 until now were not connected to the images involved in this incident,” Tea writes in an FAQ.
Excuse us, but what? There was an unsecured database just left somewhere in its system since last year, and Tea did nothing about it. That doesn’t sound like “dating safety tools that protect women” as the app proclaims on its website.
This should be grounds for a business-ending fine because, for the users, there is frankly nothing they can do. Their photos, possibly their messages, and more are now compromise,d and while the database containing that info was removed from 4chan, it could now be just about anywhere.
However, Tea’s social media posts about this breach are awash with users who are begging for Tea to accept their application to join the platform. One user even told the platform, “we don’t care about the leak” which is mighty concerning. There are some who are calling for Tea to rebuild and return with a safer app for the users, but the most vocal commenters simply want access.
What’s next for Tea? We honestly don’t know. A breach like this should be the end for a company, but it seems that Tea’s popularity has outweighed the danger of this incident and will likely grow as time marches on because, despite its security failings, there is a demand for this sort of thing.
A Second Tea Breach Reveals Users’ DMs About Abortions and Cheating
The more than one million messages obtained by 404 Media are as recent as last week, discuss incredibly sensitive topics, and make it trivial to unmask some anonymous Tea users.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
The Australian government recalls Google Pixel 6a
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'Fair Use' Prevails as Library of Congress Wins DMCA Anti-Circumvention Battle
Medical device associations behind a lawsuit challenging a Library of Congress exemption to the DMCA's anti-circumvention provisions, have failed to have the exemption ruled illegal. Motions for summary judgment from both sides went in favor of the defendants after a district court judge found that the exemption, granted for the maintenance and repair of medical devices, permits a non-infringing, transformative fair use.
'Fair Use' Prevails as Library of Congress Wins DMCA Anti-Circumvention Battle * TorrentFreak
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Hungary bans Irish rap group Kneecap from entering ahead of festival performance
The POV presented in the article is one POV in Hungary, the country is divided on the issue but mostly does not care beyond a small minority.
People cite the band shouting "Up Hamas, up Hezbollah" on as justification for the ban.
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I've never listened to them, but they're one of my favorite bands.
Edit: Just had a listen. Fuck yeah.
In the face of creeping, walking, and runaway fascism, they're Punk as fuck.
They're putting it on the line and not backing down.
Their conviction reminds me of Pussy Riot.
Current outgoing Orbán govt is sucking Bibi's dick, the incoming govt is not going to be any better on this issue, the best you can expect is ignorance from them I imagine.
Ironically, in Hungary the only party in open opposition of Israel is the further-than-Orbán far-right, because they hate Jews and kinda like traditionalist Turks for some reason.
the incoming govt
You got some inside knowledge on Magyar and how his Gvment is expected to be for Hungarians?
He is not taking stances on a lot of issues on purpose, he's fighting against a propaganda machine that makes Fox look like an amateur. It was able to destroy a previous challenger because he said "Hungary must implement the joint decision of NATO. So, if NATO decides to support Ukraine with weapons, of course [Hungary] will support it."
He seems to be economically progressive while culturally conservative and strongly euro-atlanticist. He refused to lean into progressive culture war issues, his stance was basically "we will restore the right of assembly that should guarantee people being free to do Pride, but I'm not going to go to it, or support Pride specifically". On the other hand, he is proposing wealth taxes, very strong anti-corruption measures, more funding for education and healthcare, support for small businesses, stronger worker's rights and unions, a right to data privacy from both corps and the government, a focus on train transit and other stuff like this for example.
About Israel vs. Palestine, he might support Israel just because that is the traditional Western stance, but I expect he will just abstain from votes there, or rather support whatever the EU consensus is.
Hungary is in a weird place with the Gaza genocide because Budapest has a very large Jewish population compared to a lot of other places, and they have an outsized influence on Hungarian politics as they are traditionally overrepresented in the cultural elite. And as I hear from people there, every Jewish family has the "idiotic bigoted uncle, that would be the weird conspiracy theorist Nazi in a non-Jewish family, but in Jewish family, they will be hardcore Zionists or straight-up settlers. This then makes the Gaza issue complicated and hard to take a side on for most of these people."
Tnx for your elaborate reaction.
I hope a new Gvment can (slowly) help Hungary in a more " democratic" direction.
Concerning the Jewish families in Budapest, I imagine that similar constituent pressures might be found in several countries. Doesn't help finding a solution, nor does it attribute to take a clear stance against Bibi as a country.
Though Netanyahu should be send to the ICJ in The Hague, but ofc Israel, USA and others don't recognise the court.
Though Netanyahu should be send to the ICJ in The Hague, but ofc Israel, USA and others don’t recognise the court.
Neither does Hungary since a month ago by the way
a right to data privacy from both corps and the government
how? are they bringing back non-digital bus passes as an option? like it was before lázár outlawed it
Mostly a general distrust towards the government. There was that time when they harvested everyone's email addresses for the vaccines, then blasted propaganda on them if you remember.
But I also think DÁP is kinda okay, except there was no reason on having Ügyfélkapu+ then, changing the system twice in as many years. It's mostly a promise to get voters from Mi Hazánk, and I agree with the basic premise even though I am not a lunatic.
CEARTA
“Is cuma liom sa foc faoi aon gharda!”
(I don’t give a fuck about any cop)
I’ve been listening to these guys for years, and thanks to the Streisand effect, Bob Vylan is now in my playlist too. Death death to the IDF
Anti-Hungarian hate graffiti and arson in Ukraine: A coordinated false flag operation involving the Orbán Cabinet?
I know it's not the best source, but all the relevant news from outlets that are not outright Russian disinfo are only in Hungarian.
These are trusted, well read and researched articles in Hungarian if you want to check:
hu.euronews.com/2025/07/19/a-h…
telex.hu/kulfold/2025/07/20/uk…
Letartóztatták a kárpátaljai templomrongálással gyanúsított férfit
Óvadék ellenében azonban szabadlábra helyezhetik. Gyűlöletkeltés és szándékos rongálás gyanúja miatt indult nyomozás ellene.Cseke Balázs (Telex)
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UK police hold pro-Palestine protester, 80, for almost 27 hours and search house
UK police hold pro-Palestine protester, 80, for almost 27 hours and search house
Marianne Sorrell, a retired teacher from Somerset, says she is ‘very traumatised’ after arrest at Cardiff rallyHaroon Siddique (The Guardian)
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Britain was never liberal.
The very same people harping about "gay rights" would also be writing scatting opinion articles against something or other they believe was a moral perversion (for example, men who used sex dolls) with not the least bit self-awareness about how those articles were very much like those that used to be written against homosexuality, just with a different group being targeted.
The middle class in that place is big on doing what is fashionable and makes them look good socially (keeping up with appearances) which means certain minorities which are now fashionable to support get a lot of loud, performative support, but those actions are seldom driven by actual Principles about Freedom (quite the contrary, the place is big on people "knowing their place" and has a ton of laws meant to silence and push-back on those who are loudly contrarians outside a few "permitted" domains).
Having lived in a couple of places in Europe, including Britain and The Netherlands, in my opinion Britain is actually unusually conservative for an European country.
Well, it's American-style "liberal": hard neoliberal with some of performative (rather than principled) moral liberalism.
It's definitely not Liberal in the sense of taking a principled stance for people's freedom, as made painfully obvious by what they're doing against anti-Genocide protestors.
I would even say they're more towards the Authoritarian side than the Liberal one.
Lobbyists spend very little money to catch political ears. Look into it! I have. Stunning that a major company can drop $20,000 in pocket change and get in their pants.
AIPIC has got extra juice! Since WWII, being branded an anti-Semite is political poison. They don't have to spend much money, just tell the pol, "Do as I say or we go scorched Earth on your happy ass!" Works. FFS, we have video and images of Israel actively committing genocide, murdering woman and children and people trying to get food. And what are the headlines? "$group warns of genocide!" "$group warns of mass starvation!" You mean shit that's already happening YESTERDAY?!
Try saying anything negative, in any way, in any venue, use the word Jew. You will be excoriated and banned. Notice how every single post here makes certain to make the distinction between "Jew" and "Zionist"? I mean, it's true, preaching to the choir guys, but the eggshell fire-walking is kinda nuts. And Jews don't seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.
Not being snarky, I'm actually afraid to use the word, anywhere. That's how deep the insanity goes. Watch me catch a ban for saying I'm uncomfortable using "Jew", in any context. Watch 12 people explain that Jews are not necessarily Zionists. I GET that. But someone will comment!
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For context, I'm a 54yo atheist and had always supported Israel. Poor underdogs! Nah. Now Israel is the Third Reich, and fuck them, all of their supporters.
Sickening how we have to repeat history every time our grandparents die out.
And Jews don’t seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.
Maybe I'm the commenter you're looking for, but this seems like an overgeneralization. I have several Jewish friends who are under no illusions about Israel, and who are quite clear about how Netanyahu and his ilk are consciously and cynically fueling antisemitism, not least by throwing around accusations if it against anyone who criticizes the genocide they are perpetrating. So saying "Jews don't seem to have [any] clue" feels heavy-handed.
Labour had to defend themselves against anti-semitism claims for years (usually from extremely low level Muslim councillors), so now they're going the other way entirely. And Tories aren't going to get in the way of that, because they fucking love cruelty.
But the next prime minister of the UK is going to be the one who promises to bring back all the free porn, so we don't have to ask for permission to have a wank to take our mind off everything.
Because liberalism is a hypocritical ideology.
The USA built itself off genocide and colonialism and has spent the last three centuries expanding its empire to every continent (and has long-since been an attack dog for Israel).
France endorsed liberty, equality, and fraternity at home and horrors abroad in Haiti and Algeria.
To the credit of the Liberal Party, they were much less imperialist than the Whigs they derived from or Tories. This is not to say that they were truly opposed to imperialism. Cecil Rhodes was a Liberal.
In all of these cases, the colonial adventures did not occur despite liberalism but were justified by it. We must bring enlightened civilization to the savages, you see. Locke and Mill, two foundational British figures of liberalism, were both supporters of colonialism.
So would a lot of people, and there was a chance of that with Jeremy Corbyn until the right-wingers in Labour stabbed him in the back with the help of the Tories and all of the media. They are terrified of workers figuring out where their real interests lie.
Interesting to read yesterday that Corbyn is forming a new party. It's a big mountain to climb and he's no spring chicken, but if it's done right the UK could once again have a party true to Labour's original principles.
The Labour Party is just a mainstream party from a system with First Past The Post (where power is pretty much a doupoly) which was captured and the ideology of those who captured it isn't even left of center.
Remember that not that long ago they were purging Leftwingers in that party.
They're Neoliberals so far to the Right that they're actively supporting a foreign ethno-Fascist regime committing a Genocide along ethnic lines now entering a Holocaust phase, and do so using authoritarian measures against the population of their own country, all of this whilst wearing a Labour Party suit.
I lived in Britain for over a decade until a little after the Leave Referendum and kept track of British politics for a while after that, and this surprises me not one bit after the style and nature of the coup against Jeremy Corbyn done by the very people now in Government there.
Trump says he won't 'destroy' Musk's companies by taking away subsidies
Trump says he won't 'destroy' Musk's companies by taking away subsidies
President Donald Trump denied claims that he wants to wreck Elon Musk's companies and their work with the U.S. government.Lora Kolodny (CNBC)
A useful tool that helps you find people to follow on Mastodon by looking up your "follows' follows".
Followgraph for Mastodon
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Surprising no one, new research says AI Overviews cause massive drop in search clicks
Surprising no one, new research says AI Overviews cause massive drop in search clicks
The Pew Research Center analysis shows how hard AI is hitting web traffic.Ryan Whitwam (Ars Technica)
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As intended.
First they're going to collapse the ad model by eliminating most clicks.
Then they're going to put all of the information they've been scraping from the now-bankrupt websites behind paywalls.
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Joke's on them, I've already been working on that for decades. *pats ublock* This baby can bankrupt so many websites and I always hoped it could collapse the ad model completely.
In all seriousness, it's becoming increasingly clear that we're eventually going to have to build a new, free internet out of the wreckage of this one once the corporations are done with it. Technically it's already there, nascent but ever so slowly growing and taking root, hiding in plain sight. Like the so-called dark web of tor, it already exists in parallel to the existing structures of the internet. Call it the deep web, the indie web, nostalgia web, unsearchable web, I've heard countless terms and most of them aren't terribly accurate, but the web doesn't need ads and google search to exist, it never did. It just needs humans, which despite the best efforts of big tech many of us still are, communicating directly with one another and documenting our billions of lifetimes of diverse collective experiences and knowledge.
We are the wealth of information in the internet. Corporations don't own it. We are it.
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What kind of revisionist bullshit is this?
Like, it's almost always safe to write off anyone using "normies" but do you think 2002 was like in movies/TV?
"The net" wasn't some secret thing, kids had been using it in school for over a decade.
I can't tell if you weren't born then or already 50 years old...
But wherever you're getting your opinions on 2002 internet, it wasn't first hand
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But it was the beginning of what would come. After 2009 it went downhill fast.
Punch the Monkey, Shake the Tree, Bonzi Buddy, flash animation, sites that only worked in IE, etc, etc.
You're right, anyone who thinks 2002 was some golden age of the internet clearly wasn't there.
It’s just nostalgia applied to the internet. Some people call it Eternal September. Everyone prefers what the internet was when they first discovered it and hate what it’s become since then. I remember the internet from 1996 most fondly. Many prefer it from the 80s or earlier 90s. This is no different from other media: music, TV, movies.
Of course this is separate from the real issue which is the consolidation and silo-ification of the modern web.
Very much yes.
I have this great visual image of the corporate web, marked by neon signs and billboards and holographic ads, populated entirely by bots talking to each other while the humans sneak away, giggling and shushing each other.
I see your ublock and raise you Pihole.
The internet has always had ads, some of the most obnoxious were those mid to late 90s banner ads with sound. I’ll never forget loading a random page and my speakers screaming: Helllllloooooooooo.
As intended.
Yes. The secret to telling what a search engine wants you to do is whatever is on top of the search results.
You and I might scour the results to find the exact best results, but most people simply look at the very first thing they're presented with and call it a day.
When I saw all of the search engines putting AI answers first, I knew they were intentionally trying to stop people from clicking through.
I'm not sure I fully understand the play here. Like, what's the grand vision? Fewer click-throughs == less ad impressions, no? They just want you to see the AdWords ads only? I'm not sure it's a fully-baked idea. I'm not convinced they can really create a moat around all information on the web
Would welcome any additional insights
Google probably wants to keep you on google.com, where they have ads. By doing the AI stuff, you never click through to someone else's page. They get 100% of the interactions and can sell all the clicks.
It's monopoly stuff. They should be stopped, with whatever box of liberty is needed.
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It's to keep you on Google as long as possible. Google doesn't care about ad impressions off-site. Look at it this way:
You search for something and AI surfaces full answers to you at the top. Now, Google can "alter the deal" in the near-future where "sponsored AI results" come into play and are incorporated into The Answer. THAT is the gold mine. Right now (and forever) it's been about being on the first page of results and now it's about being the first result "above the fold" so people don't even need to scroll. This is going to change to be the "AI answer" so your website / product / service is mixed into the answer. Pay-for-play just like everything else.
This method will rapidly train users to just search, view AI results, then click through those paid results or move onto something else. Those AI incporated impressions will make Google money and the possible click-through from the AI answer will yield more money.
Companies are already working to optimize so AIs will recommend their products and services when people ask things like "I'm going on vacation to the mountains for a week. What gear would you recommend?"
Search results are shit now.
Our only hope is this opens the door to some competitor, who'll provide actually useful search results. I know that would be very expensive to start.
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For the longest time I didn't understand why people were saying Google search had gone to shit. Worked for me! Now it cancerous.
I can search for a YouTube video I know well, nada unless I go directly to YT. Google can't even find shit in their own space!
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European Search Perspective
Promoting digital pluralism, data security, and sustainability through a European Web Index.www.eu-searchperspective.com
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If you aren't paying, you're the product.
What sucks is that I can't unbundle their AI shit from my subscription
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Crazy how good it is, right?
Google enshittified so gradually, we never even noticed.
This study isn't about total clicks, or a drop in traffic to Google caused by people not liking the ai overview. It's about for each Google search that was executed, how often did someone click on a link. Without ai it was 15% and with ai it is 8%. So if anything its proving the customers like the ai overviews and believe they are getting enough from them to answer their query.
Sure there are probably a couple people who see the overview at the top and hate ai so much they leave Google without clicking anything, but those people will probably only do that once or twice before they stop using Google entirely or disable the feature, and thus wouldn't count much in the data about ai overview searches.
Some websites now are really shit. Won't load unless you allow JavaScript from 15 different domains, cookie consent, terrible privacy etc.
If I want to know things like what 10 kmpl in mpg, I often use DDG snippets.
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I'm reading comments on arstechnica and seeing people mad at... what exactly?
The reason I go to web search is to answer my questions. Now it's given to me at once, without need to go anywhere.
Is it sometimes hallucinating? Of course it is, but have you really 100% trusted information on the Internet before anyways? I haven't.
You say that ads driven websites are going to stop receiving money. But have you really liked ads driven websites? The same ones whose main incentive is to keep you on the website as long as possible or, in fact, wasting as much your time as possible to sell it to ad companies? The ones that were really worth visiting already changed their business model.
If I want an answer to a question(say what internal temp do I need to cook chicken too), then I can easily get it without scrolling through a bunch of ads and articles about cooking chicken.
I wouldn’t say it was designed with that in mind
In a sense it very much was. Al Gore as a young congressperson was shown the military version (Arpanet) and then pushed a series of bills that expanded this to the civilian world and created what became knows as the Internet. His explicit goal was to create an "Information Superhighway" that would allow for the free exchange of - wait for it - information. This phrase (popularized by Gore but probably not originated by him) was so well-known in the '90s that it became a standard joke format: "{fill in the blank} Superhighway" was sure to get a laugh.
Incidentally, during the 2000 presidential election cycle, Gore gave an interview where he said he "took the initiative in creating the Internet", which was a perfectly true and reasonable statement for him to make. In fact, all he was doing was emphasizing an achievement that he was already well-known for. Months later, Bush advisor Karl Rove found this quote and mangled it into the "Al Gore claims he invented the Internet!" bullshit that so many people still think was real.
I see that google increase number of search ads, likely because people just stop scrolling and clicking entirely
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
Trump made the admission during a speech to launch his new AI Action PlanStephen Warwick (Tom's Hardware)
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"No, no, no, I like Pringles, Pringles are amazing, Pringles are great. Everybody here at the Oval Office loves Pringles, we can't get enough of'em."
Edit: on second thought... maybe you're right, Lay's come in bags, doubt those paragons of stupidity ever managed to figure out how the can works...
Took me a second more then I care to admit.
Here I am thinking what does Lay's have to do with chips, made of silicon.
Has the Nvidia CEO sent swathes of innocent people into concentration camps?
And man, Trump's not even the most evil in his administration. That arguably goes to Stephen Miller.
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This is a clickbait headline from Tom’s, as that’s not how the speech was worded. Per their own cherry picked quotes
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.
The context being he had never really heard of Nvidia before they got so high profile, like most of the US population.
Tom's does this all the time; they’re notorious for it in the PC Hardware news community.
Yes Trump is an idiot and his speeches are stupid, but can we please not have ragebait stretching it even more?
I’m sorry to keep bringing this up and getting so sour, but I feel like Lemmy's information hygiene is deteriorating, and we're happily upvoting it away. Big community mods need to put their foots down and put up basic soft rules, like:
- Link the original source (in this case the NBC video), link the place you found it in the description if you wish.
- Check the Wikipedia perennial news table (which, to be fair, Tom's isn’t in yet): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi…
- Try to avoid ragebait
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To PC gamers and hardware nerds. Not to the average person or the high levels of US politics.
As I often say, Lemmy skews really techy, but most people don’t know anything about this stuff.
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Not sure why you're being down voted. If you never built your own PC, you would have had zero reason to know who Nvidia was.
And most people buy pre built machines. Most of those have probably been laptops for the last 10-15 years, so not even the chance to upgrade. They just but the latest things with the biggest numbers and assume it will handle their needs.
Nobody but computer nerds had heard of NVIDIA back then. Go outside right now and snatch 10 neighbors or strangers, ask them if they know anything about the company.
I can only think of 3 people on my block who have heard of them. Me (35 years of IT), young neighbor (works county IT), young neighbor (PC gamer). Bet not another soul on the whole block would have a clue.
As my favorite YouTuber Paul Harrell (RIP) always said:
"Everything I'm saying today are my conclusions and my opinions. My opinions are based on my education, my training, my experience. Different people have different experiences so they have different opinions. I make no claim that my opinion has its origin in the mind of greatness. And if someone does tell you that their opinion has such origins, you should be very incredulous."
I had a few people come to me asking when Nvidia starting surfacing in investor/finance land. And one for AI work.
EDIT: Also, I'm bookmarking that quote, thanks.
I think it was a couple of years ago, I made a reply on a thread where people were accusing the average Reddit user of being a bot or a shill (rightly so) - anyway, my position was that Lemmy is already being infected by similar.
Oh man did people get salty; but I swear it's only been getting worse.
I’m not accusing anyone here of being a bot or shill.
But I think information hygiene is super, super important, lest the Fediverse meet the same fate as the rest of the internet.
Oh for sure!
It doesn't take very many who participate in bad faith, though, before information hygiene, as you put it, starts going by the wayside.
But, my apologies if it sounded like I was trying to hijack your message; was not my intent! Whether it's bad actors or just people giving in to emotional reactions instead of reasoning out the argument, it is for sure important to be careful of misinformation. I'm sure a distressing amount is spread quite unintentionally.
No worries, I got the idea (and was a tad blunt clarifying). And yeah, for sure.
To expand on my perspective, I’ve encountered genuinely curious comments about link sourcing, questionable but popular sites and such. It reminds me there are young folks or newcomers still learning those concepts and “characters” of the internet, and I mean that with no intended condescension to anyone.
I have a bad habit of being condescending myself, I appreciate the reminder.
Some time back I saw a blog post where the author was making the claim that the only possible way to deprogram someone who had been radicalized starts with compassion. Real, honest compassion for the person; which can be hard with the hateful ideals that are spread so freely these days! But he is right. Without compassion, whoever you are trying to communicate with has no honest reason to listen.
Anyway, thank you again for sharing your perspective!
THANK YOU. I've said many times, lemmy will upvote anything they believe to be true without a second thought. Then we turn around and make fun of gullible Boomers on FaceBook.
Around 1999 I learned to fact check if a headline or meme sounded crazy. Still applies today y'all!
Yeah. To be fair, everyone’s gotta slowly learn that.
But I think it’s fair for communities/mods to lay down posting standards, unless it’s like an explicit shitposting community.
On the backend, Twitter must use some kind of (pre-LLM) language model to aggregate the sentiment of comments? I've never used Twitter before; how is it generated? Do mods post it or something?
Lemmy could theoretically do that, but it'd either have to hit an API, host it with their server resources, or lean on potentially power-tripping/busy human mods to do it.
Well, ML is kinda toxic right now, and even a hint of "let's draft community notes with a language model" is going to be shot down by the huge fediverse anti-AI community. So I think that's, unfortunately, a non-starter.
And again, mods purely doing it would be problematic.
It seems like a great idea to me, but I'm just not sure how it would be implemented.
I mean I realize we're talking about a moron here but grammar is important:
"I've never heard of them" vs "I had never heard of them"
So no, not clickbait.
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia?' I've never heard of it before.
The journalist pretty clearly put the quotation marks in the wrong place. It should be this:
Trump continued, "I said, 'Who the hell is he? What's his name?' 'His name is Jensen Huang, Nvidia, ' I said, 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before.'
He's quoting himself, in the past, saying "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He's not saying that he hasn't heard of NVIDIA in the present moment. The context makes that clear, because in the next paragraph he describes how he got to know Jensen Huang and learn about NVIDIA. But the journalist closed the quote too early, making it a bit nonsensical. On this rare occasion, Trump was not being 100% incoherent.
Here's the actual video source, skipped to the relevant context:
And if you don't want that, a clip of the auto transcript I ripped from YouTube:
...And a very special thanks to some of the top industry leaders including somebody that's amazing. I said, "Look, we'll break this guy up." This is before I learned the facts of life. I said, "We'll break them up." They said, "No, sir. It's very hard." I said, "Why?" I said, "What percentages of the market does he have?" I said, "He has 100%." I said, "Who the hell is he? What's his name?" His name is Jensen Wong. Nvidia. I said, "What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before." He said, "You don't want to know about it, sir." I figured we could go in and we could sort of break them up a little bit, get them a little competition. And I found out it's not easy in that business. I said, "Supposing we put the greatest minds together. They work hand in hand for a couple of years." He said, "No, it would take at least 10 years to catch him if he ran Nvidia totally incompetently from now on." So, I said, "All right, let's go on to the next one." And then I got to know Jensen, and now I see why. Jensen, will you stand up? What a job. What a job you've done, man. Great. It's a great He's a great guy, too. Lisa...
Trump's clearly referencing learning about Nvidia in the past, and getting to know Jensen. He's telling a story about pondering breaking up Nvidia and putting together a government chip development effort before he learned the finer details on what they do. Tom's headline, on the other hand:
President Trump threatened to break up Nvidia, didn't even know what it was — 'What the hell is Nvidia? I've never heard of it before'
Is worded to imply Trump 'threatened' Nvidia blindly, or that he didn't know who Nvidia is during or just before the speech, cherry picking a quote with no context. It's technically plausibly deniable.
Call it what you want, but that is classic tabloid journalism from Tom's.
The headline contradicts what Trump was saying. It sort of contradicts their own article.
nothing Trump says really has any meaning.
This is reductive. Why report on anything he says then? But for the sake of argument let's go with that.
When he says something happened “in the past”, it could mean it happened at literally any time previously, it could mean he expects it to happen soon and as such is an inevitability so he just says it already happened
So how do you go from that to concluding:
othing from that “context” makes me any less likely to believe he found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage
You're not making any sense. You're saying "nothing Trump says really has any meaning," effectively refuting his whole quote, while somehow holding up the conclusion that he "found out what Nvidia was minutes before taking the stage" with, per your own standards you just emphasized, zero evidence, out of thin air.
So which is it? Is his whole quote invalid?
He talks about learning about Nvidia in the past, and mentions talking about breaking it up. That doesn't sound like a business man talking about getting involved in the company, or competing against it, that sounds like a politician wanting to address a very strong company. Trump has only been a politician for the past 9 years. So Trump just found out about the largest chip designer in the world 9 years ago... That seems absurd to me.
100%.
Frequently Lemmy left users appear as deluded as Trump supporters with their foaming at the mouth support for anything and everything anti Trump.
It's like hating Trump is a personality trait now, it's fucking sad.
I mean, I don't have a problem with hating Trump being a personality trait.
explain why I should like him, he represents everything I despise and is making my country somehow am even bigger laughing stock of the world. Now I obviously know this is a problem with American elites...far beyond trump but he's effectively the CEO of the country and as such would be the person to blame.Just as they like to say Biden this Obama that Clinton this other thing...not that any of it matters anyways because obviously one single person doesn't control much anyways as people should know
I mean I think he's a character and fun to watch sometimes, but that's about it.
don't really know how you can make Trump look worse than he already does with his hateful vile words and disgraceful record.
he's brought a new level of corruption to an already corrupt office, which I find quite astounding
I can't see how anyone would be like, 'why are people so quickly anti trump'
if you ask me-- noone with braincells and good intentions should be supporting him (or the Dems for that matter)! but certainly not an administration that is actively covering up one of the greatest child trafficking rings in modern history.
sorry for the rant but I just truley do not get this take 😭
I'd be more shocked if I came to lemmy and it read like r/conservatives
Because that's exactly what Trump supporters do: don't think critically, just blindly, loyally assume the opposition must always be incorrect.
It's not about supporting him or not, it has nothing to do with that. It's about seeing through objectively false posts (often posted for money, attention, or simply from gut feelings) and people cheering them on, which is exactly what has empowered Trump and given his supporters something to point to painting them as victims of lies.
You should set aside any thought about Trump and look at the material first. That's critical thinking, in a nutshell.
Or you can play the engagement hate game that got that man into office.
Whenever a company has reached a critical size or control of the market that it is no longer incentived to serve the interests of its customers and starts serving its shareholder's instead, it should be broken up. This is the only way you will see actual innovation and positive growth again.
Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Nvidia, Meta are only a few in a long list that are long overdue to be broken up.
That being said, Trump is more believably saying that to scare them into giving him a bride. He just pulled his head out of his ass just enough to hear about a "new" company with deep pockets and smelled the money.
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This is the guy who, as president, literally asked "who knew health care was so complicated". And more recently, he thought he could waltz in any stop the fighting in the Middle East just by telling Israel and Palestine to get along, then threw a hissy fit when that didn't work.
How anyone takes this man seriously or thinks he's anything but a complete moron is beyond me. Not knowing what the fuck he's doing is literally his only move.
some people on this thread need to understand that two things can be true,
the headline can be misleading yea
but
it can also not really matter
in other words, I'm the grand totality of all the actually harmful things he has said and actions he is doing... this feels like a nothing burger to me lollll. So people think he can just wear his little fingers and Nvidia magically breaks up? even if he goes after th administratively, it's not like Nvidia would just roll over 😭it's just absurd to even take this seriously in the first place imo. idk I think it's funny people are debating about what he actually said when it doesn't really matter, dudes going senile and Nvidia is gigantic corporation that can defend itself and also fuck it I wouldn't mind if they got broken up tbh. people will find whatever to argue about
Good.
Now tell nvidia they can continue if they play nice with linux and use it as a bribe. And then call Adobe...
For 1st Time, Fires Are Biggest Threat to Forests’ Climate-Fighting Superpower
Forests play a major role pulling planet-warming carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. As the world heats up, some forests are becoming emitters in their own right.
Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Polish Train Maker Is Suing the Hackers Who Exposed Its Anti-Repair Tricks
Newag, maker of Polish trains, is suing ethical hackers who exposed its anti-repair software, threatening independent repair and consumer rights.Charlie Sorrel (iFixit)
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I am looking forward to their next update:
Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains
We've all been there: the trains you're servicing for a customer suddenly brick themselves and the manufacturer claims that's because you...media.ccc.de
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Malicious design is putting it mildly. This is fraud with a bit of blackmail sprinkled in. They bricked perfectly functioning trains that their customers already had paid for, because another workshop was chosen for servicing them after the warranty period of the train ended. Then they charged over 20k € to unlock trains they deliberately locked before. The unlocking itself took them 10 minutes.
In a just world the Newag CEOs would go to jail for this, but sadly we all know this won't happen.
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fraud
Sabotage. Property made unusable. Passengers were literally stranded in the middle of a journey.
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Yeah, this has a criminal component of endangering train traffic and putting hundreds of lives at risk.
This is not merely fraud or property damage. This should be seen in the context of attempted homicide.
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This very article.
And one batch of the 45WE EMU (electric multiple unit, the kind of train that doesn’t have a separate engine up front to pull the passenger cars), would switch off automatically when passing through the Mińsk Mazowiecki railway station. Trains full of passengers were left stranded.
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I was just thinking this. I imagine that there is only a few hundred train operators in the world, so they can all be reached easily, and would pay attention to the Polish rail operator.
Simply explain the whole ordeal and bullshittery, and let them know what will happen to them.
It's unlikely that Newag would get another sale. They are fucking with mainly state operator, who have a LOT of time and resources.
If I were the Polish operator, I would have found a new hobby.
Newag [train maker] claims that the Dragon Sector [whitehat hacker] team endangered passengers’ safety by modifying the software without proper experience. But Newag then turns right around and claims that Dragon Sector did not modify the software at all. They point out that EU law only allows reverse engineering of software in order to fix bugs. And if Dragon Sector did not actually modify the software, it cannot have fixed any bugs, in which case their reverse-engineering must be illegal.
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But the security researchers did not have time to write a patch yet
This is not true. They never intended, and said would never try to make any modifications to the train software, because it would be very illegal, you can't make modifications to the trains without the train having to go through recertification again and they have no credentials to be making any modifications to trains.
They only analysed a copy of the software, and found secret undocumented unlock codes that could just be typed in at the cabin without having to modify anything.
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#capitalism at its #worst (AGAIN)
2022, members of #DragonSector were called by a train repair shop Serwis Pojazdów Szynowych (#SPS) work out why #trains refusing to run. Digging into the code revealed a #software trap that would disable trains if they were anywhere near a #repair facility that wasn’t run by the manufacturer, Newag. But Newag used a pretty inaccurate way to determine when the trains were in a rival repair shop, which led to some unexpected consequences. #right2repair
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They are not illegal heroes, they are pentesters and were paid by train company SPS who were using these trains.
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They had a talk at CCC 2 years ago, and last one too I think. It's pretty funny.
Breaking "DRM" in Polish trains
We've all been there: the trains you're servicing for a customer suddenly brick themselves and the manufacturer claims that's because you...media.ccc.de
CCC was collecting some money for them last year, not sure if this is still active ccc.de/en/updates/2024/das-ist…
Edit: looks like they were past the goal they had then but if this goes on maybe 30k € won't be enough, hopefully someone sets something new up
CCC | They have not been trained for this
Der Chaos Computer Club ist eine galaktische Gemeinschaft von Lebewesen für Informationsfreiheit und Technikfolgenabschätzung.www.ccc.de
When corporation does crime and has the balls to sue the victims
EU companies are learning well from the US!
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After a bit of digging it looks like Newag has had a steady supply of government contracts:
25.01.2023 - 10,7 billion PLN (2,5bn EUR) for EMUs
24.07.2024 - Newag CEO mentions current contracts with PKP Intercity total 9bn PLN (2bn EUR)
21.11.2024 - 7,7bn PLN (1,8bn EUR) for hybrid MUs
23.06.2025 - most recent one I could find, 270 million PLN, EMUs for a local railway
Stock is up 260% since June 2022
In Poland we don't negotiate with corporate terrorists, we throw money at them. 🙃
Duża umowa Newagu z PKP Intercity. Kurs bije rekordy
Newag zawarł z PKP Intercity umowę na dostawę i utrzymanie dwunapędowych zespołów trakcyjnych o wartości ponad 2,7 mld zł - poinformował Newag w komunikacie. Kurs Newagu przed godz. 13:00 rośnie o ponad 3 proc. i osiąga historyczne maksima.Jacek Misztal (Bankier.pl)
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You are literally looking at a company trying to prevent competition by doing crime, being caught and trying to use law against those who caught it.
Capitalism is that thing where competition is considered a virtue in the first place.
It's the general modus of today, exposing corruption is illegal and extremism, fixing intentional sabotage is illegal and against IP law, catching pedophiles is illegal and a stalking attack on respected people like Sourgay Brin and Mark Suckerberg. Bypassing censorship is illegal and making tools for criminals. Bypassing propaganda is illegal and inciting to violence. Laughing at unsubstantiated demands is illegal and a challenge to elected or other authority.
It's slowly drifting to the point where "illegal" is trying to make sense in what's allowed and what's not, and "legal" is having approval from power.
A mafia world.
It's obvious that they are different. In the old understanding of things, you sometimes have to do illegal stuff when it's moral. Enemies have to be fought, laws have to be broken before changed. At the same time laws were perceived as something specific and precise.
Now there's some weird perception that all laws have an inertia of moral virtue because of being descended from popular will or something like that. At the same time it's a fuzzy, almost mystical, entity and asking "why the hell should I do that" from authority is like attacking that entity. In the old understanding of things it wasn't. So laws have become fuzzy, and it has become a small sacrilege to question them.
Which is what always happens, a thing perceived strictly and literally will always run into contradictions resolved outside it, and such a resolution is a normal process. Like with segregation.
And if you make an outside resolution absolutely impossible, the thing will become fuzzy.
"The sheep are made to be sheared". Each day, critical thinking fades a little more, leading people into a spiral of submission that has never been as swift and humiliating.
BBC News and news agencies warn journalists in Gaza at risk of starvation
"We once again urge the Israeli authorities to allow journalists in and out of Gaza. It is essential that adequate food supplies reach the people there."
In a separate joint statement, Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), Save the Children and Oxfam, said their colleagues and the people they serve were "wasting away".
But Israel, which controls the entry of supplies into Gaza, has accused the charities of "serving the propaganda of Hamas".
BBC News and news agencies warn journalists in Gaza at risk of starvation
News organisations say local journalists are increasingly unable to feed themselves in Gaza, facing the same "dire circumstances as those they are covering".Amy Walker (BBC News)
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BBC News and three leading news agencies have expressed desperate concern for journalists in Gaza, who they say are increasingly unable to feed themselves and their families.
Did…did you read the first sentence in the article, or just the headline? Things are bad enough under Israel’s siege that news agencies are worried about journalists starving too.
But Israel, which controls the entry of supplies into Gaza, has accused the charities of “serving the propaganda of Hamas”.
when reality has an anti-IDF bias
Gaza: Negotiations between the US, Israel, and Qatar over a mega yacht on the Costa Smeralda
Gaza: US, Israeli, and Qatar negotiate megayacht deal on Costa Smeralda
In Sardinia, a truce meeting was held between US envoy Witkoff, Tel Aviv minister Dermer, and the Prime Minister of the Emirates, Al-Thani.Redazione (Unione Sarda English)
Germany Approves Deployment Of Two Taliban Diplomats To Berlin, Bonn as part of efforts to facilitate the deportation of Afghan nationals with criminal convictions
Germany Approves Deployment Of Two Taliban Diplomats To Berlin, Bonn
The German government has approved the deployment of two Taliban-appointed consular officers to Afghanistan’s diplomatic missions in Berlin and Bonn as part of efforts to facilitate the deportation of Afghan nationals with criminal convictions.Afghanistan International
India's illegal expulsions to Bangladesh target Muslims
India's illegal expulsions to Bangladesh target Muslims: HRW
A new Human Rights Watch report has found that hundreds of Bengali-speaking Muslims in India have been forced into neighboring Bangladesh. They told HRW that they feared for their lives if they did not comply.Mahima Kapoor (Deutsche Welle)
Governors Urge Japan Govt to Address Population Decline
Governors Urge Japan Govt to Address Population Decline
Aomori, July 23 (Jiji Press)--Japanese prefectural governors Wednesday urged the central government to give to…nippon.com
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Doesn't sound like they are:
Japan’s far-right populist Sanseito party was one of the biggest winners in the weekend’s upper house election, attracting many voters with its “Japanese First” platform that included calling for tougher restrictions on foreigners and the curtailment of gender equality and diversity policies.
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They're calling for effectively more immigration
That doesn't match with the recent election of hard anti-immigrant majority.
What I said was literally from the article. This is about an association of governors, not parliament.
Also, I'm assuming you're talking about Sanseito, which does not have a majority. The recent election just gave them more seats (which isn't great obviously, but is very different from them controlling parliament). Note that when I say "more seats," I mean it went from 1 to like 15 or something out of 250 or so.
Earth's population was meant to decline. Degrowth of a sort, because 8 billion is too many.
Why have children when their future is guarenteed to be fucked?
8 billion people isnt too many people if resources were used appropriately and we had less severe inequality. The real issue is that of the 8 billion people on earth, way too many of them are on the older side and no society has a good plan to deal with it. South Korea has been doing some interesting things with turning children’s infrastructure, like elementary schools and daycares, into daycare for aging seniors. Theres a lot of overlap in the need for physically safe environments and their recreational activities, so it makes sense. But its not a holistic solution
The world population is virtually guaranteed to cap out at about 10B people in 2050 or so before entering decline, and at that point virtually every country in the world will be dealing with the same issue Japan, South Korea, Italy, etc are dealing with right now. There wont be enough young people to care for the old people because the majority of countries are already seeing below replacement level births right now.
As much as people think overpopulation is an issue, we will never have to deal with that problem. The problem we will actually have to deal with is steep population decline, caused by periods in the past where some or almost all countries had birth levels well over necessary replacement levels
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I don't want my children or anyone elses to take care of me, or other old folks. No one should place that burden on our youth. When it's time, its time. I'm reminded of a friend who had to take leave off work because his dad was in a home and couldn't feed himself and they had insufficient staff to care for the old folks feedings and washings. What a disgusting way to live. I'll never be that burden on anyone.
I'll take care of myself and when I can't do that anymore I'll take care of myself. ಠ_ಠ
With any luck, society will learn sensible limits to eldercare.
Agreed with all that except that I think 8 billion is way too damned high. 73% of the animals on this planet have disappeared since I was was born, and back then we had "only" 3.7 billion people. I've seen radical declines in my local ecosystem in just the last 5 years. That's in a hood on the very edge of town, surrounded by rivers, creeks, woods and swamps.
People blame global warming, but that's very recent and only the tip of the iceberg. Human activity is directly killing everything.
Thats something i think of daily, and i have 2 kids.
It was a mistake, i am sorry for them, for their future.
We don't have too many people!
We have too many greedy and sociopathic people. We currently have the tech and knowledge to provide (of course not over night) for every human... While also protecting and restoring the environment. We don't have a space or resource problem. We have a economic system(s) and morality problem.
Yes, we do have too many. While we could provide for 8 billion, that many humans is destroying our ecosystems.
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World population has more than doubled in my lifetime. Society might be able to support 8 billion, the planet cannot.
No more tech hiring in India, Donald Trump tells Google, Microsoft and others to focus on Americans
No more tech hiring in India, Donald Trump tells Google, Microsoft and others to focus on Americans
US President Donald Trump has sent a strong message to big tech companies like Google and Microsoft asking them to stop hiring overseas including in countries like IndiaAnkita Garg (India Today)
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We won’t and please do not speak for us. We will however keep the “remote” bit thanks very much
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In addition, Trump expressed dislike for the term "artificial intelligence" itself, saying he preferred a name that better shows the intelligence and power of the technology. “It’s not artificial, it’s genius,” he said.
So, like he wanted to rename Gulf of Mexico, now he will sign a decree forcing everyone to use GI (Genius Intelligence) instead of AI (or A1 if you ask his entourage)
I think I recently saw Microsoft put a request for 3x h4b visas more than the number of engineers they fired in the most recent firing wave.
Pretty sure it was rubber stamped.
North Korea's Kim Urges Troops To Prepare 'For Real War'
North Korea's Kim Urges Troops To Prepare 'For Real War'
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has urged his military to be ready "for real war" as he observed a firing contest of artillery units, Pyongyang state media said Thursday.Barrons
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In other news water is wet.
Dont give fat kimmy more credit than he deserves.
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Trump’s hefty tariff on Brazil expected to push the country towards China
Trump’s hefty tariff on Brazil expected to push the country towards China
Chinese investments could play a crucial role in enabling Brazil to boost its industrial capacity and diversify economy.Eleonore Hughes (Al Jazeera)
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I mean Brasil will still get orders from the U.S., but it just tells the country to not depend on trade with the U.S. in the future because U.S. companies may not be able to afford to buy your products.
Edit: you guys know this is the entire point of Tarrifs right? To make it so your companies find other countries products are to expensive... So you find a way to make them cheaper in country. Just in this case they won't find them cheaper... So it will manipulate the amount sold from Brasil.. and hurt their economy unless they make trade deals elsewhere to sell any potential losses
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Understand, that Trump's NOT playing the Zero-Sum Game: he's playing the Negative-Sum Game, as mass-shooters are, too..
He isn't working towards future-generations' victory, rather, he's working to enforce that there IS NO US of A for anybody to be a citizen-of, after he's finished with it: he will go down in history as its last ruler..
Same as mass-shooters want glory/infamy, not long-life..
( & "journalism"'s stringing-along the false-framing that it's really otherwise, is just helping increase our body-count at the end of this decade, in treason against true Journalism's spirit )
The 5 culture-levels ( levels, not "stages", as stages are irreversable, like larval-caterpiller, but adult-giraffe, after their metamorphosis, you know? ), that are anchored on the 3 categories of Game, are:
5: Positive-Sum Game, aka Win-Win Alliance: "Living is self-inherently AWESOME!!"
4: mixed: "WE are great, THEY are not."
3: Zero-Sum Game, aka competitive-narcissism, which money-people presume that all players are playing: "I am great, others are not."
2: mixed, subject-to-narcissism's-rule: "MY life sucks."
1: Negative-Sum Game, mass-shooters, competitive-nihilism: "LIFE, ITSELF sucks, let's butcher it for importance/glory."
You can watch the simplified-condensed version here: ted.com/talks/david_logan_trib… & if you find that understanding the 5 cultures is important to you, because you want to decide which of the cultures you live-in, through the rest of your life, then I beg you to invest in understanding everything in their book, "Tribal Leadership" by Logan, King, & Fischer-Wright.
They didn't realize that the 5 culture-levels all hang on the 3 categories of game, I did, but with that key, it's even more important to be understanding this, as the US of A is now manufacturing a mass-enforced-conversion of people down to culture-level-2 & culture-level-1 ( homeless oft becomes culture-level-1 within 3 months, and I say that having experienced years of it: it DESTROYS you, inside ).
Immunize your life against that particular erosion-of-your-life, now, while you've still got good leverage, because they're working to enforce that we lose all our leverage, ASAP..
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EDIT: to make it explicit, what I'm saying..
IF you don't understand which of the 3 categories-of-Game a player is playing, THEN you aren't competent in understanding what their strategy is!!
ONCE you understand that the accelerationists, & the far-right, are not playing for long-rule, they are playing for power-while-destroying-everyone-else's-life, THEN you can understand what is, vs what isn't, Strategy, from their perspective, see?
Should have made that obvious, instead of only implying it, as it was sufficiently-obvious in my head, but .. you aren't me, & be happy about that, too.
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Tribal leadership
David Logan talks about the five kinds of tribes that humans naturally form -- in schools, workplaces, even the driver's license bureau. By understanding our shared tribal tendencies, we can help lead each other to become better individuals.www.ted.com
Australian women win right to sue Qatar Airways over invasive searches
Australian women win right to sue Qatar Airways over invasive searches
The women were strip-searched and invasively examined after a baby was found at Doha airport in 2020.Tiffanie Turnbull (BBC News)
Permit revoked for MAGA musician's concert at Parks Canada site, but show will go on
Parks Canada says a U.S. singer and rising star in the MAGA movement will not perform at a national historic site near Halifax after the federal agency revoked the organizer's permit, but the show is slated to go on at a new venue.
Christian rocker Sean Feucht was scheduled to play a concert on Wednesday night at the York Redoubt National Historic Site, a fortification constructed in 1793 to help protect the port city.
Feucht, who unsuccessfully ran for U.S. Congress as a Republican in 2020, is also a missionary and an author who has spoken out against the 2SLGBTQ+ community, abortion rights and critical race theory on his website.
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Currently living in Canada. Can confirm Canadians absolutely hate MAGA/Trump and are energized against it.
(Except for Alberta, we don't talk about them)
World's smallest-known snake found under rocks in Barbados after nearly 20 years
World's smallest-known snake found under rocks in Barbados after nearly 20 years
Some scientists worried that maybe the Barbados threadsnake had become extinct before it was rediscovered in March.CBS News
Did you just assume my gender?
But no, I don't give a fuck about punching down on that guy. He deserves it. Believe me.
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15% tariffs
...is currently just a rumor. Everything is in a state of flux. And still, an agreement with Trump is just a piece of (toilet) paper, as he has proven repeatedly. So, let's see how and if that all plays out.
Also, if things get worse with the current pollling in mind, he'll probably lose the Congress. Either in Nov 2026, or maybe even before if he also loses some of his Rep. backing during the next months.
This is not about the number, it's about slowing tu ngs down to stabilize other options.
Ten workers killed battling wildfires in Turkey
Ten workers killed battling wildfires in Turkey
Forestry workers and rescuers were trapped by fire following a change in the wind direction.Seher Asaf (BBC News)
Twelve killed in Thailand-Cambodia military clashes on disputed border
Twelve killed in Thailand-Cambodia border clashes
The fighting marks an escalation of a century-old conflict between the two South East Asian neighbours.Jonathan Head (BBC News)
India court pauses acquittal of 12 men in Mumbai train bombings case
Mumbai train bombings: India court pauses acquittal of 12 men convicted in the case
The Bombay High Court had freed the men on Monday, saying the prosecution had failed to prove its case.BBC News
Saudi Arabia accused of banning women’s rights activists from leaving the country
Saudi Arabia accused of banning women’s rights activists from leaving the country
Former political prisoners face lengthy travel restrictions to stop them speaking out, says human rights organisationTom Levitt (The Guardian)
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Passenger plane with 49 people onboard crashes in Russia’s far east
48 dead after Soviet-era passenger plane crashes in Russia’s far east
Wreckage of Angara Airlines flight found on mountainside not far from its destination of TyndaPjotr Sauer (The Guardian)
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Yeah and every time, nationalist turbo-libs like you will be there to voice your utter apathy for the deaths of innocent civilians because they are flying over land controlled by monsters with a different flag than the monsters who control your country, a flag whose subjects your country has told you to hate.
Nationalism is a fucking mind virus.
Something in the ballpark of 90 % of those civilians support the war of genocide in some form. Some 30 % are against the war, but most of those are angry about how Ukraine was invaded: They would have wanted it done in a much less bloody fashion.
You talk with Russians, and they keep telling you how "you must look at both sides of the situation", in other words trying to defend the genocide their country is doing its best to commit. So, of course at least 5 %, possibly almost 10 % of Russian civilians are innocent, but out of the 44 adults that died, that is statistically about 2 to 4 people in the whole plane, plus the five children. Are we supposed to be very very horrified that 9 innocent people died in a plane crash?
In the other hand, the Russia is doing its Human Safari attacks against civilians, hunting them down with drones for fun. And they are targeting mainly civilian homes in their terror attacks with drones and missiles. If the death of those 7 innocent civilians and 40 guilty civilians (because of course, every death is always a sad thing – always to at least some extent!) helps end the war earlier and that saves the lives of 200 innocent civilians in Ukraine (being attacked by the army most of the plane's passengers were happily supporting), then as a net result that crash has then saved lives of a bit over 150 people. And yes, I prefer 49 dying over 200 dying, absolutely! Especially if those 200 are innocent and about 42 out of those 49 are not. Even if we were to assume somehow all of the 49 were innocent (HOW?! What are the chances for that?!), the balance would still make sense.
And then: They chose to enter a plane, fully aware of the existence of very severe safety problems in Russian aviation. A Ukrainian living in their own home and getting killed there hasn't really chosen their death as a victim of a terror attack. But someone willingly choosing to use the airplane under the current circumstances has made a completely free decision. They could have taken a train or a bus, but they preferred the risk in order to save time. First they decided not to do anything against Putin, in order to have a comfortable and safe life, then they decided to enter a deathtrap.
Nope. Not terribly sad. Not even for any of the approximately four innocent adults on the flight, because they chose the flight. I am sad for the 5 children, though. But even their deaths easily hasten the end of the war enough to save lives of 20 other children, which does diminish (but doesn't remove!) my sadness. It's 5 absolutely innocent people who didn't know of the risks and even if they did, could not do anything to mitigate them, and that's always sad. But 5 innocent children dying unfairly is something that happens more often than once per decade.
This war must end. It will only end when Russians get fed up with it. Everything that pushes them that way is more good than bad.
Please elaborate what in my text gave you such an impression.
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Are we supposed to be very very horrified that 9 innocent people died in a plane crash?
Yes oh my God some of them were children
So, of course at least 5 %, possibly almost 10 % of Russian civilians are innocent, but out of the 44 adults that died, that is statistically about 2 to 4 people in the whole plane, plus the five children.
Of course the statistically average Russian isn't completely blameless for supporting the Russia-Ukraine war, but that doesn't mean they deserve to die in a plane crash!
Like the entire argument you're making and the fact that you're making it to argue against what I previously is what gave me the impression that your empathy is conditioned on where someone comes from.
I see you simply skimmed through my comment and commented without actually reading it.
Yes oh my god some of them were children
As I said in my comment, that is a horrible thing. Please read the comment and then reply again. It is ridiculed that you just randomly accuse people of being heartless without bothering to read what they actually think about the matter.
Also, you can be sad without being very very horrified. Those children were brought to death by their own parents. Why would that not feel bad?
that doesn't mean they deserve to die in a plane crash!
True. I completely agree with you regarding this. As I wrote in that comment. Please, just read it. If somebody is robbing a bank and gets shot in the process, that is a bad thing, because it's a dead human. A bank robber does not deserve death, because nobody deserves death. But, I won't expressly explain that I'm very sad about a robber dying, because the robbery does decrease my sadness. And even if the robber also kills their own child during the robbery, it of course makes me angry at that horrible parent, and sad about a child dying, but it doesn't make me actively write that I'm angry and sad. Because there are other thingsore relevant about the event.
Arguing against a really bad argument does not make the arguer's "empathy is conditioned on where somebody comes from."
If you now read my comment, you will notice that I'm saying my empathy is conditioned on what somebody has done. (And, to clarify: absolutely regardless of where they are from! It tells a lot about you that you even end up assuming it might be because of where that someone is from! That looks a lot like projecting.)
Furthermore: how have you successfully managed to completely skip the connection to the extreme suffering in Ukrainian homes? Based on you apparently projecting there, it's hard to not notice how you're voicing your compete apathy to the death and suffering of innocent civilians in the terror attacks the Russia is now committing on an almost hourly basis.
This is sad, but this is also an direct consequence from Putins attack war.
Sanctions to Russia hurts lot of their ability to get spareparts they need for repairing planes.
Blood from these deaths are on Putins hands.
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Nick cave è un Grande musicista, questo va detto subito, ad onor del vero. Va detto soprattutto come riparo da pareri contrastanti e come salvaguardia di un "patrimonio" musicale tra i più interessanti degli ultimi trent'anni... Lerggi e ascolta...
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Push The Sky Away (2013)
Nick cave è un Grande musicista, questo va detto subito, ad onor del vero. Va detto soprattutto come riparo da pareri contrastanti e come salvaguardia di un “patrimonio” musicale tra i più interessanti degli ultimi trent'anni. Bisogna ricordare infatti che il nostro Nick, tra “Boys Next Door”, “Bad Seeds”, “Grinderman”, “Warren Ellis” e alcune colonne sonore, ha inciso ventisei dischi, quasi uno all'anno, mica... artesuono.blogspot.com/2014/10…
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Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Push The Sky Away (2013)
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Big Pharma is increasingly reliant on Chinese biotech advances
AstraZeneca, Pfizer and other multinational drug companies have spent a record amount on medicines developed by Chinese biotechs this yearAstraZeneca has signed the most licensing deals with Chinese biotechs, at least $13.6bn of licensing deals with five companies so far this year
US pharmaceutical companies AbbVie, Merck, Pfizer and Regeneron also signed multibillion-dollar licensing deals in the first half of 2025.
Pfizer signed the biggest Chinese licensing deal this year, a $6bn agreement with 3Sbio to develop a cancer drug
All this [pharmaceutical] money has gone into China because China has invested in their industry while the US government has not,” Axelsen said.
PBS and NPR are generally unbiased, independent of government propaganda and provide key benefits to US democracy
PBS and NPR are generally unbiased, independent of government propaganda and provide key benefits to US democracy
Studies link public broadcasting to higher voter turnout, better factual knowledge and lower susceptibility to extremist rhetoric. Those contributions to democracy may be diminished by Congress’ cuts.The Conversation
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in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Poor bastard: there IS active, & onging, Russian interference in EVERYthing in Ukraine, & he's got his hands tied in many ways, while Russia doesn't have rule-of-civil-rights law, at all..
Yes, Justice must be independent ( as that protestor's sign states, in English, in the image above ), but when you've got the world's greatest machiavellian having their tentacles in all your institutions, how do you make it independent of THEIR molestation, too, when they're already operating outside of the law?
Poor bastard..
this war's grinding on him, grinding on his values & his frame-of-reference, both, it seems..
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