So I have been using mint on my other pics with little issue. Wanted to try something different. Got pop all setup, it does work pretty well and is fun (other than God awful pop shop) but I keep gettung an issue that seems to be totally unique to me.
No Nvidia.
Amd fx 8320 (yes. Its shit but was free) 12 gb ram Radeon ellesmere xfx rx580
My issue. After varying times of usage. Either running vms, gaming. Browsing web, doesn't matter, ill get pink diagonal squares across the screen, full freeze up, kicked to the login screen, and then I am not able to log in at all until I hard shutdown.
I just put a bunch of stuff on this pc and would rather not have to switch back to mint. I am thinking it's maybe my graphics card driver but I am unsure how to see. I do have the correct popos for my hardware.
I know there is logs but im unsure where.
Edit: ofc amd drivers should be native so that shouldn't be my issue.
Edit for anyone who may see in the future: I fixed the issue temporarily by throttling down the wattage allowance to my gpu, using LACT. I will need to get a higher power PSU in the future. Thanks all!
The graphics glitching could just be from a kernel bail of some sort. List some specs of your machine, that would be helpful.
Another thing: what's your PSU wattage?
Edit: checked, and your CPU can draw 125W, while the GPU can draw up to 250W, so if you don't have at least a 400W PSU, you could have some problems. Maybe consider under locking just a tad, or locking the GPU at a lower clock to prevent big power draws. That might help. Would hurt to check the temp on that GPU as well.
I would ask for a healthy margin above 100%, especially if you're bringing an older PSU. There are a ton of variables for determining what is needed, but if your TDP on those 2 items is pushing 400W, we should be aiming for 500+ with an 80 Plus certification.
This definitely plays like a failing PSU to me as I experienced similar issues when mine started dropping on one of the 12V rails with similar hardware (fx8350, r9 290) several years ago.
Huh, well the fact that you're just logged out suggests that the DE either encounters an unrecoverable error, or the system runs out of resources and has to kill some userspace processes to free them up and your DE just happens to be one of the things it kills, which can leave it in an unrecoverable state.
The pink squares do suggest a gpu-related problem however, it's possible that your gpu is either overheating or doesn't get enough power from the power supply. What gpu temperatures and ram usage are you seeing before the freeze? And what power supply are you using?
Not an answer to your question. Just some perspective. I've come to be more patient with FOSS. Perhaps it doesn't always work how I want, but unlike proprierary options, it belongs to me. Something to think about when something doesn't go your way.
I just put a bunch of stuff on this pc and would rather not have to switch back to mint.
If you move that stuff to a partition that’s different from where root lives, switching operating systems shouldn’t be a problem. You can just mount the data partition on your new OS, if the need arises.
If your distro ships with the tool inxi, you can dump a lot of data about your system with inxi -Fazy. Folks might be better able to help you then. The -z flag filters sensitive information.
That's a pretty neat tool. I'll definitely be using that for future troubleshooting.
My only, minor, gripe is that it shows kernel parameters which can contain the UUID of the LUKS partition containing your sysroot. This isn't a factor in most people's threat model, but it's worth pointing out.
Also before buying a PSU, make sure it's from a reliable brand, has at least 5 years warranty and then see what the smart people with equipment say about the specific model you're looking at. PSUCircuit is a good resource for this.
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I was using it with a 3070 just fine. Not necessarily sold on it, but so far so good.
I mean it's dead, (for now) because my CPU died to the fate of belonging to the wrong Intel generation.
Now after finding a lottery ticket I will buy a new board and CPU, and a new GPU next in priority (since it does still work, but I won't be buying Nvidia or Intel anymore.
Personally, unrelated to OP, I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I built a silent PC, with fanless heatsink. Couldn't find a source here for fanless power supply so bought a 750w that doesn't spin fan till 30% wattage use. PC uses 15w at idle and about 23w for normal computer stuff. 45w if I push it with video rendering or other workloads. 700w doing nothing 😀
Have any other distros been tried on this box and do the same issues present with them? I think the recommended PSU combined with an RX580 is 600W, so you might try swapping PSUs. Another option if you don't have a spare to test with is to undervolt the GPU. If it stabilizes at that point, it would suggest the PSU needs replacement. At least that way you wouldn't be dropping money on a hunch.
Another good indicator of that being GPU/PSU issues is the fact you mention not being able to get past the login screen. Both X11 and Wayland (especially Wayland) crank up the VRAM usage at that point due to compositors caching and whatnot
I've been running with an RX 580 on my desktop with Debian Testing for three years, and I've had no problems like this.
I'm running with a 750W power supply, so I'm inclined to agree that the the OP should pop open their PC case and check their wattage. Assuming this is an ATX box, it's probably just a matter of removing two screws and sliding off the side of the case and reading the wattage. If it's a reasonable wattage and it's still giving issues, then try the aforementioned undervolting.
So, running furmark gets me the pink squares and crash after about 3 minutes. Gets 60 fps the whole time and sits around 70C. I am thinking psu seems likely.
ofc amd drivers should be native so that shouldn't be my issue
I'm curious, what's an example of non-native drivers?
Driver bugs exist, it could definitely be a hole in someone's testing. I would assume the number of people running PopOS (and whatever build of mesa their release is on) with that specific GPU is pretty low. Maybe try the amdgpu-pro driver and see if the issues go away (or change, heh)? Not sure what the recommended way of installing it on PopOS/Ubuntu/Debian is.
Ah, I think you mean non-free or just non-open source.
Something being "native" means it's compiled for your specific hardware, ex. an x86-64 binary running on an x86-64 CPU. An example of non-native is an x86 binary being emulated on an ARM CPU, Java bytecode running on a JVM, or Python code running in an interpreter.
But your drivers are all definitely all running natively on your hardware.
Just to clarify, this almost certainly won't be better on Mint for several reasons. One, PopOS! and Mint are both based on Ubuntu, so they would likely run into a lot of the same issues. I also have an RX 580, and while I haven't used either of these distros on that machine, I have run Debian Testing for several years, and since both these distros descend from Debian, I have run similar package versions and would likely have known years ago if a major bug occurred for my GPU.
As said by @Mordikan@kbin.earth below, I would be inclined to check the power supply, and maybe even make sure the PCIe card is properly seated.
Cranking my gpu wattage allowance shuts the pc down about instantly. Lowering it lets it run furmark for longer. I am guessing psu. Its a cheap cyberpower case that likely has the og crap psu
I didn’t even know there were still cases bundled with power supplies! But yes, in general, throughout the history of PC building, I’m pretty sure included power supplies in any brand tend to be very low wattage. The power supply probably isn’t even broken - I’m just guessing the PC’s was upgraded to an RX 580, and the RX 580 was more power hungry than the original graphics card and the power supply just wasn’t designed for it.
Just a tip - next time you build or upgrade a PC, use this tool to estimate what power supply you need; newegg.com/tools/power-supply-…
You can get a 700 watt PSU that should work in the $50-70 range, although honestly, it might be worth it to go a bit bigger so you can cannibalize it for a future build when the time comes - even the RX 580, which is newer than your CPU, is getting a bit old and I hope to replace it if I build a new PC in 2028.
Oh yeah, the cheap ones do, and this was just a second hand pc I got for 40 bucks to have for messing around with. The psu may not even be name brand as there's no labeling at all on it.
Right now, throttling the wattage allowable from the card has fixed it! I ended up using LACT for this, which works perfectly.
Yes im very behind in the pc world. My brain still thinks 4 gigs of ram is massive, ha. My main pc is another rx 580 with a little bit better fx proc and 16g ram, and it does an excellent job for everything I do. The proc is definitely a bottleneck though. Maybe ill go am5 next year
Luckily, I can probably live with using mine a few more years. Mine's an early AM4 system with a Ryzen 5 2600 in it. My CPU performance isn't a huge bottleneck (although I'd like a couple more cores for faster compilation).
Really, it's my graphics card. The 580's fine for some basic gaming, but it sort of got left in the dust with ROCm support - it's kind-of-sort-of supported, but not well enough for Blender to work with it.
I think the situation's improved with ROCm on consumer GPUs enough now that so long as I buy a newer card, I should be fine. Debian support's improved a lot as well - for many GPUs, it should just be a matter of sudo apt install hipcc now. However, Debian is still a few versions behind in experimental and doesn't support the latest AMD cards, but I suspect that getting it packaged was the hard part, and that once Trixie releases, Forky/Testing will catch up in a few months.
The AMD Radeon RX 480 / RX 580 'Polaris' graphics cards remain very popular on the Steam Survey and among enthusiasts/desktop users at large even though they are nearly a decade old
20+ years ago, Lindows had a great app store that let you create an "aisle" of your favorite apps so if/when you'd reinstall your OS, instead of searching and installing all your apps one-by-one, you'd just go to your aisle, click "install all" and boom.
For me that's the main benefit of using home-manager on nixos and other distros. You basically just make a list of packages, and install/update them through home-manager.
I mean, i feel obvious for saying this, but maybe others dont know: If we're just talking about apps, this is also a 1-liner in most package managers that you can even automate in a shell script
if we're talking more complex environments like a dev environment, mix of python packages, libraries, docker containers, etc obviously thats a lot of attention to manually save all of those details for later and something else should probably be used
Aren't most app configurations and settings saved in the user's .config folder? Again you have to know to look for this, but that should be most of your settings right?
For me the config management aspect of home-manager is mostly useless. It takes a lot more work to set it up, looks far uglier, and you need to maintain it because parameters change over time. Saving dotfiles in a repo, and symlinking them on install is simply easier.
The only two scenarios where it's actually useful is when you have slightly different configs for different devices, and when the program doesn't support dotfiles. A pretty cool example I've seen for the second one is managing Firefox customisations (settings, plugins, additional CSS), but I'm only disabling horizontal tabs so it's not worth it for me.
Sure, but then you need to maintain it. I don't know about you, but I never had the discipline to update it with every package install and uninstall. It's especially annoying when you have multiple devices.
Declarative package management doesn't have that issue since you're managing the packages by editing the list.
Besides that, the home-manager approach works on any distro (and os?), you get bleeding edge packages, you get a built in rollback system, and you can handle configs as well (but I mainly just symlink them anyways).
/facepalm moment for not thinking of that at the time
But it's lacking organisation and modularity. For example let's say you need programming packages on one device, gaming ones on another, and general ones on both. It's pretty easy to set it up with hm, and you can disable specific modules when you don't need them (for example you rarely need to use a certain language and supporting packages).
It's pretty fast, especially if you don't get into flakes right away. You basically just install nix with a one liner -> install home-manager through nix -> start adding packages to list.
Here's a comment I made when I was starting out with basic instructions. Do note I'm now using this command for updates instead (updates hm, package definitions, and the packages themselves)
For Arch you run pacman -Qe which lists all installed packages that were not installed as a dependency. I output that to a location via golang script which is monitored by the pCloud client for automatic backup along with a lot of other configs from $HOME/.config. I then have a systemd service that fires the script and a timer to kick off that service periodically.
On a related note, would you recommend restoring an entire home directory (including the dot files and all the dot directories) once I reinstall all the packages after a fresh install? Would it basically replicate my restored setup or would there be random issues that emerge? I'm thinking particular system settings related to kde/gnome settings, but others I might not be aware of.
For me, I tend to focus on specific directories I know I'd need data from (or that will just be a hassle to rewrite config for). I have a scripts folder that gets backed up, Books, .mozilla, etc. A lot of things I just know I won't need like .cache. That folder is 7GB and mostly just the cache from yay needing to be cleared out.
I don't backup my entire home directory because I'm worried ACLs may change or other little issues that will take more time than its worth to correct. That said, you could. You worried about something like that, you could pull the existing ACLs: find ~/ -type f -exec getfacl --absolute-names {} + > home_acls_backup.txt and then restore them: setfacl --restore=home_acls_backup.txt
I haven't really used KDE much, but I know it has a theme data in .local/share that you'd want (and probably the .cache folder as well). GNOME keeps theme data in .themes, .icons, .fonts. They might just be defaults, but if you have anything custom, you'd want those folders too.
Thank you for your reply, this is helpful to know.
That's what I currently do as well, I just backup particular .config subfolders and other directories. I'll probably continue to avoid just raw transferring an entire home directory on a new install.
One other thing I didn't mention is it depends on the backup tool you use. Not all of them are filesystem aware. What that means is if you have hardlinks present those will not be preserved.
That can be important to remember as it will bork things down the road with the restoring. If you aren't familiar with linking: Hard links point to actual data (think of it like a pointer in C). Soft links (symbolic) point to file path.
This is how I do it. I'll see something and think 'hmm, interesting' and completely forget any of the details but I'll remember vaguely that something exists then I can search for it.
Language models are pretty good at solving the 'I think I remember something that does this specific thing but don't know where to look' kinds of problems (don't just blindly run LLM generated commands, kids). Then once you have a lead, traditional searching is much easier.
If you can't remember what to reinstall, was it really that important? Packages are so quick and easy to install that I just install them the first time I try to use them and find them missing.
I think you are right when it comes to re-installation of the packages themselves. What's more annoying for me is re-applying all of the little tweaks and configurations for all of the ones that I actually do want or need.
I'm not advocating for anything, but if I remember correctly, flatpaks are typically installed in user home directory. If that's the case, then it's just a matter of copying a directory and installing flatpak. I might be wrong though.
NixOS has a config file, you backup that file, you can duplicate your system with it.
OpenSUSE has an AutoYast system where you can build a config for the next install.
OpenSUSE microOS has ignition and combustion files to replicate a system from scratch. For those that don't like hand typing a config file there is this web based tool to write out a file based on selections opensuse.github.io/fuel-igniti…
You're correct. All packages installed via dpkg/apt are on that list. What isn't included are appimages, flatpacks, snaps and other non-dpkg software if you happen to have any.
instead of searching and installing all your apps one-by-one
And... that takes what, a good all 5 minutes?
Honestly unless you either re-install an OS frequently (which is a weird thing to do on a day-to-day system) or plan to go offline for a long period of time I bet you'd spend more time finding a "solution" then not doing so manually.
I'm not you but when I install a fresh OS (maybe once every couple of years, at most!) on my desktop (not counting other devices, handheld, servers, etc) I install
Firefox (if it's not already by default, if it's ESR then I might get a different update mechanism)
...well honestly that's it!
Then yes as I start to work I add KDEnlive, OBS, Blender, Cura, OpenSCAD, etc.
My point being that I can't imagine a moment when, as you start the OS you actually need all the other software at the same time. You usually need one, then another, e.g. Inkscape to edit a PDF document you just received, then you pass the extract image to e.g. LibreOffice Writer.
So... not having everything from the start is IMHO a good moment to consider what you actually need, keep things lean.
TL;DR: there are technical solutions but on a desktop connected to the Internet it's not worth it.
PS: I do personally keep my bash history or my ~/bin/ and ~/Apps/~ directories across installations (because I do keep~` on a dedicated partition) with some AppImages in but honestly I don't rely on these.
Surprised nobody said this yet, but I use ansible. I also use it to have the same install on multiple machines independently (something that doesn't work by just having a dedicated home partition).
But it's a bit of maintenance to keep modifying my dotfiles, certainly not as easy as your old apps aisle.
In APK based systems (Alpine, Chimera, Adelie) there is /etc/apk/world
It is a list of all the packages you have explicitly installed. When you add and remove from this list (all apk does), the system solves for dependencies and makes sure you have the right packages installed.
You could bring up a new system by updating this file.
As the world watches Gaza starve, Republicans in Congress quietly advanced a new ban on funding a United Nations agency that delivers food aid to Palestinians.
The GOP-dominated House Appropriations Committee last week voted to bar financial support for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East, long the main hub of aid distribution in Gaza. If passed by Congress, the ban would reinforce a financial blockade on UNRWA that began last year as Israel subjected the agency to an intense pressure campaign.
Congress first banned funding for UNRWA in March 2024 as Israel pushed allegations that the agency’s employees were involved in the October 7, 2023, attacks. Democratic President Joe Biden had already paused funding for the agency.
The $46 billion bill would slash funding for many foreign aid programs and ban funding for UNRWA, while handing Israel $3.3 billion to buy more American arms.
As Gaza Starves, Republicans Take Aim at Another Lifeline. Almost No One Noticed.
As the world watches Gaza starve, Republicans in Congress quietly advanced a new ban on funding a United Nations agency that delivers food aid to Palestinians.
The GOP-dominated House Appropriations Committee last week voted to bar financial support for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East, long the main hub of aid distribution in Gaza. If passed by Congress, the ban would reinforce a financial blockade on UNRWA that began last year as Israel subjected the agency to an intense pressure campaign.
Congress first banned funding for UNRWA in March 2024 as Israel pushed allegations that the agency’s employees were involved in the October 7, 2023, attacks. Democratic President Joe Biden had already paused funding for the agency.
The $46 billion bill would slash funding for many foreign aid programs and ban funding for UNRWA, while handing Israel $3.3 billion to buy more American arms.
As the world watches Gaza starve, Republicans in Congress quietly advanced a new ban on funding a United Nations agency that delivers food aid to Palestinians.
The GOP-dominated House Appropriations Committee last week voted to bar financial support for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East, long the main hub of aid distribution in Gaza. If passed by Congress, the ban would reinforce a financial blockade on UNRWA that began last year as Israel subjected the agency to an intense pressure campaign.
Congress first banned funding for UNRWA in March 2024 as Israel pushed allegations that the agency’s employees were involved in the October 7, 2023, attacks. Democratic President Joe Biden had already paused funding for the agency.
The $46 billion bill would slash funding for many foreign aid programs and ban funding for UNRWA, while handing Israel $3.3 billion to buy more American arms.
As Gaza Starves, Republicans Take Aim at Another Lifeline. Almost No One Noticed.
As the world watches Gaza starve, Republicans in Congress quietly advanced a new ban on funding a United Nations agency that delivers food aid to Palestinians.
The GOP-dominated House Appropriations Committee last week voted to bar financial support for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East, long the main hub of aid distribution in Gaza. If passed by Congress, the ban would reinforce a financial blockade on UNRWA that began last year as Israel subjected the agency to an intense pressure campaign.
Congress first banned funding for UNRWA in March 2024 as Israel pushed allegations that the agency’s employees were involved in the October 7, 2023, attacks. Democratic President Joe Biden had already paused funding for the agency.
The $46 billion bill would slash funding for many foreign aid programs and ban funding for UNRWA, while handing Israel $3.3 billion to buy more American arms.
Hello everyone! I have been de-googling my life for a few years. I don't have official YouTube clients anymore. At this point I use PipePipe, a fork from New Pipe to watch videos.
But as a Spotify and YouTube Music replacement, I am currently using Outer Tune.
My problem is that with or without Proton VPN usage I get errors again and again. despite closing the app, switching off the VPN etc. At this point it's impossible for me use Outer Tune any longer.
What are you using?
claryfication:
on the long run im looking to build a offline media vault. but for the moment. i want to use a Spotifiy alternative, where there are suggastions... for new music that i like.
i tried Rimusic a while ago can't say why i find't like it anymore.
i love making playlist offline with it and PipePipe is a dream but its not right for me for music
I buy music from Amazon music, hd tracks or band camp it's all drm free and put it on my server behind a subsonic based server . That'll give you the closest to a streaming service. Otherwise just sync music on your phone old school.
Let me add that my favourite albums / artists will usually be bought on vinyl records as well for some neat displays and to throw some support their way.
1 physical purchase is worth a million streams (I imagine compared to spotify anyway)
I have had some issues with OuterTune (expected for this type of app) but not to the extent you're describing. The current version works for me. Have you tried other open source YoiTube Music clients too? There are loads out there.
I’ve done this for decades. While everyone else switched to streaming music, I keep my entire collection on my phone. It’s only 40GB, but it makes up the majority of my music listening, with streaming radio supplementing it to find new stuff… which I then purchase and download if I like it.
If you have a NextCloud instance with NextCloud Music app installed you can use its Ampache or Subsonic API implementation with a client in your devices (I recommend Ampache as the implementation is a literal server clone).
If not, as other people suggested Funkwhale.
If you still depend on YT Music, there is RiMusic as a client but prolly will give you errors too after some time if your network is denylisted.
Could you please elaborate on your last sentence? What do you mean with "errors [...] after some time if your network is denylisted"? I am using RiMusic and I indeed run into weird errors where the music stops in the middle.
Not sure why nobody mentioned it yet, but I switched to Metrolist a while back when RiMusic/ViMusic stopped working. Never had to look back and never had issues so far.
For real? ViMusic is archived since October '24... same goes for RiMusic which was archived.... yesterday? Ok, I wasn't even aware of that - last I knew was that it became a local-only client when the dev gave up fighting against the constant api changes on youtube side.
Anyhow, glad it somehow still works for you - it's been a great app.
I use Musify from F-droid for what your describing.
To be honest though I only really listen to my offline collection and radio/internet radio for discovering new music.
Check out The Indie Beat. It's an internet radio station playing music from artists on the Fediverse, like Radio Free Fedi used to. All my favourite discoveries from the last couple of years have been by or via Fedi artists.
If that YSK post about Deezer's main shareholder CEO wouldn't have come out, then I would have suggested that, since that's what me and my friends are using in the family plan after being disappointed with Tidal as a Spotify alternative.
Buy music and then upload it to your phone. Thats what I do. You can get 10-15 albums for the cost of 1 year of YouTube Music. You could have 30 albums in just 2 years. Music that won't go away increase in price, and the Apps you can use to play them won't show you ads even after you pay for your music
As the world watches Gaza starve, Republicans in Congress quietly advanced a new ban on funding a United Nations agency that delivers food aid to Palestinians.
The GOP-dominated House Appropriations Committee last week voted to bar financial support for the U.N. Relief and Works Agency for Palestinian Refugees in the Near East, long the main hub of aid distribution in Gaza. If passed by Congress, the ban would reinforce a financial blockade on UNRWA that began last year as Israel subjected the agency to an intense pressure campaign.
Congress first banned funding for UNRWA in March 2024 as Israel pushed allegations that the agency’s employees were involved in the October 7, 2023, attacks. Democratic President Joe Biden had already paused funding for the agency.
The $46 billion bill would slash funding for many foreign aid programs and ban funding for UNRWA, while handing Israel $3.3 billion to buy more American arms.
Blackstone CEO and billionaire Stephen Schwarzman has been a key player in the worsening global housing affordability crisis. Activists want to rein him in.
What are you talking about? I can see my headline might be confusing, meant to be a play on words, as he has a shady past, but the Blackrock employees were hit and injured, so it did have to do with Blackstone.
The WSJ reports that a Blackstone employee was shot in the lobby.
The WSJ says several Blackstone employees needed hospital treatment.
Fair enough. I wasn't criticizing your title at all, I was more confused that the article made it seem like Blackstone was the target, but halfway through they mentioned that the NFL was the target
While I don't support mass shootings in general, if someone is so far off the deep end that they're going to throw their life away in an act of random violence, I at least hope they choose targets like Blackstone instead of a random elementary school. At least they're smiting someone who deserves it, for once. The country would be a lot better off if we had several hundred corporate shootings and zero school shootings each year. No shooting period would be better. But if you're going to go on a rampage, at least go after evil people first.
Thanks for the extended info. I agree about the shootings. I never understood why lone gun"men" always chose schools and Walmart parking lots. If you are crazy and want to go down guns-blazing, why not aim for the real evils of this world, the ones causing so much pain for no other reason but greed, the oligarchs and their ilk?
NEW YORK (PIX11) — Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner was identified as one of the victims killed in the mass shooting at 345 Park Ave. on Monday, according to a spokesperson for the company.
LePatner was the Global Head of Core+ Real Estate and the Chief Executive Officer of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust (BREIT), according to Blackstone’s website.
According to her LinkedIn profile, LePatner spent more than a decade at the company after previously working for Goldman Sachs.
Chris Smalls, the former Amazon Labor Union president who led the first successful U.S. union drive at Amazon's Staten Island warehouse in 2022, was violently detained by Israeli forces on July 26-27, 2025, while participating in a Gaza aid mission
"When he reached the Israeli prison, U.S. human rights defender Chris Smalls was physically assaulted by seven uniformed individuals," the Freedom Flotilla Coalition announced. "They choked him and kicked him in the legs, leaving visible signs of violence on his neck and back"
Smalls was aboard the Handala, an aid ship attempting to break Israel's blockade of Gaza, when Israeli Defense Forces seized the vessel and detained its crew. As the only Black person among the 20 detained activists, Smalls faced notably harsher treatment
The U.S. government failed to contact any of the seven American citizens aboard, while other countries like France, Spain and Italy reached out to their detained nationals. According to Palestinian American attorney Huwaida Arraf, who was released due to her Israeli citizenship, the activists refused deportation and began a hunger strike
"I'm thinking of Chris Smalls. And about how, because he's Black, no Greta Thunberg, no celebrity, no darling of the liberal class, he might not make it out alive," wrote author Camonghne Felix
While smaller unions condemned Smalls's detention, the Teamsters union remained silent despite having recently affiliated with the Amazon Labor Union.
On Monday, details emerged that not only was Smalls detained, but he was physically beaten by the IDF. He was the only Black member of the Freedom Flotilla on the Handala.
The fourth estate is now no longer the fourth estate. It has been overtaken by greed and capitalism. The real stories are here, where people who are willing to think for themselves live.
Bourgeois media is means of communication (usually news media) that is owned, controlled, or otherwise serves the interests of the bourgeois class. Bourgeois media...
"I'm thinking of Chris Smalls. And about how, because he's Black, no Greta Thunberg, no celebrity, no darling of the liberal class, he might not make it out alive," wrote author Camonghne Felix
However, his international union leader, Teamsters union President Sean O'Brien, has stayed silent on the detention of Smalls, who founded the Amazon Labor Union, which is now an affiliate of the Teamsters. Instead, the Teamsters President Sean O'Brien took to social media to advertise his upcoming interview with fascist commentator Vivek Ramaswamy and his 3 million right-wing followers.
NEW YORK (PIX11) — Blackstone executive Wesley LePatner was identified as one of the victims killed in the mass shooting at 345 Park Ave. on Monday, according to a spokesperson for the company.
LePatner was the Global Head of Core+ Real Estate and the Chief Executive Officer of Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust (BREIT), according to Blackstone’s website.
According to her LinkedIn profile, LePatner spent more than a decade at the company after previously working for Goldman Sachs.
The Russian military has intensified offensive operations across several key sectors of the Ukrainian front, achieving tactical breakthroughs that thr...
Russia launched one of its deadliest night assaults on Ukraine for months in the early hours of Tuesday, the day after Donald Trump said he was setting a new deadline of “10 or 12 days” for Russia to make progress towards ending the war or face new sanctions.
A series of Russian strikes across the country killed at least 25 people, Ukrainian officials said, including a 23-year-old pregnant woman and more than a dozen prison inmates. About 100 people were injured across the country.
Okay I'll start. I did a quick search and found this one:
To criticize the people's shortcomings is necessary, . . . but in doing so we must truly take the stand of the people and speak out of whole-hearted eagerness to protect and educate them. To treat comrades like enemies is to go over to the stand of the enemy.
We stand for active ideological struggle because it is the weapon for ensuring unity within the Party and the revolutionary organizations in the interest of our fight. Every Communist and revolutionary should take up this weapon.
But liberalism rejects ideological struggle and stands for unprincipled peace, thus giving rise to a decadent, Philistine attitude and bringing about political degeneration in certain units and individuals in the Party and the revolutionary organizations.
Liberalism manifests itself in various ways.
To let things slide for the sake of peace and friendship when a person has clearly gone wrong, and refrain from principled argument because he is an old acquaintance, a fellow townsman, a schoolmate, a close friend, a loved one, an old colleague or old subordinate. Or to touch on the matter lightly instead of going into it thoroughly, so as to keep on good terms. The result is that both the organization and the individual are harmed. This is one type of liberalism.
To indulge in irresponsible criticism in private instead of actively putting forward one's suggestions to the organization. To say nothing to people to their faces but to gossip behind their backs, or to say nothing at a meeting but to gossip afterwards. To show no regard at all for the principles of collective life but to follow one's own inclination. This is a second type.
To let things drift if they do not affect one personally; to say as little as possible while knowing perfectly well what is wrong, to be worldly wise and play safe and seek only to avoid blame. This is a third type.
Not to obey orders but to give pride of place to one's own opinions. To demand special consideration from the organization but to reject its discipline. This is a fourth type.
To indulge in personal attacks, pick quarrels, vent personal spite or seek revenge instead of entering into an argument and struggling against incorrect views for the sake of unity or progress or getting the work done properly. This is a fifth type.
To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type.
To be among the masses and fail to conduct propaganda and agitation or speak at meetings or conduct investigations and inquiries among them, and instead to be indifferent to them and show no concern for their well-being, forgetting that one is a Communist and behaving as if one were an ordinary non-Communist. This is a seventh type.
To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.
To work half-heartedly without a definite plan or direction; to work perfunctorily and muddle along--"So long as one remains a monk, one goes on tolling the bell." This is a ninth type.
To regard oneself as having rendered great service to the revolution, to pride oneself on being a veteran, to disdain minor assignments while being quite unequal to major tasks, to be slipshod in work and slack in study. This is a tenth type.
To be aware of one's own mistakes and yet make no attempt to correct them, taking a liberal attitude towards oneself. This is an eleventh type.
We could name more. But these eleven are the principal types.
They are all manifestations of liberalism.
Liberalism is extremely harmful in a revolutionary collective. It is a corrosive which eats away unity, undermines cohesion, causes apathy and creates dissension. It robs the revolutionary ranks of compact organization and strict discipline, prevents policies from being carried through and alienates the Party organizations from the masses which the Party leads. It is an extremely bad tendency.
Liberalism stems from petty-bourgeois selfishness, it places personal interests first and the interests of the revolution second, and this gives rise to ideological, political and organizational liberalism.
People who are liberals look upon the principles of Marxism as abstract dogma. They approve of Marxism, but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their liberalism by Marxism. These people have their Marxism, but they have their liberalism as well--they talk Marxism but practice liberalism; they apply Marxism to others but liberalism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.
Liberalism is a manifestation of opportunism and conflicts fundamentally with Marxism. It is negative and objectively has the effect of helping the enemy; that is why the enemy welcomes its preservation in our midst. Such being its nature, there should be no place for it in the ranks of the revolution.
We must use Marxism, which is positive in spirit, to overcome liberalism, which is negative. A Communist should have largeness of mind and he should be staunch and active, looking upon the interests of the revolution as his very life and subordinating his personal interests to those of the revolution; always and everywhere he should adhere to principle and wage a tireless struggle against all incorrect ideas and actions, so as to consolidate the collective life of the Party and strengthen the ties between the Party and the masses; he should be more concerned about the Party and the masses than about any private person, and more concerned about others than about himself. Only thus can he be considered a Communist.
All loyal, honest, active and upright Communists must unite to oppose the liberal tendencies shown by certain people among us, and set them on the right path. This is one of the tasks on our ideological front.
At a banquet, Chairman Mao entertained the Soviet delegation, and he asked an interesting question: "Should we be loyal to the red watch represented by communism?" So as a red believer, who wants to join my chili party? "
He once said: "It can be said that people who engage in revolution can basically eat spicy.
"If you don't eat chili peppers, you won't have a revolution."
In July 1936, Mao Zedong entertained the American journalist Edgar Snow in Yan'an. Of course, the dishes served were not without chili peppers. Mao Zedong was happy for a while, so he sang a Hunan folk song "Chili Pepper Song" for the guests
You can't be a revolutionary if you don't eat chilies.
Critical reading for every communist
(I am pretty sure 3 of these are different translations of the same quote but I loved all of them enough to include them)
You will ask, why is it that 15 years after Liberation, there are still many people who are moderates, and even some who are still rightists? (Audience laughter). It’s because thought work (思想工作) is just this difficult, it needs a period of time, and we can’t force them to wash their brains (不能强迫他们洗脑筋). (Audience laughter). We can only encourage them, we can only persuade them[.] (Mao 1964).
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The Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) is a global infrastructure development strategy adopted by the Chinese government in 2013 to invest in nearly 70 countries and...
Now crunch the numbers but tally the death toll of every coup USAID helps get going, every land and agricultural reform that doesn't get off the ground because USAID threatens to pull out, all the deaths from having to obey asinine IP laws with regards to medicine that is priced to gouge US patients, let alone global south ones (again with USAID threatening to pull out)
At this point I don't consider gringos collateral. It's your fucking country doing stuff like Operation Phoenix, Gladio, Condor, and countless other black ops and coups and the systematic starvation of the global south, and y'all only care about what they'll do for you, in the singular.
I'm sorry for the children in the US and the immigrants/indigenous, the rest of y'all have had plenty of time to straighten things out and it's always this "vote blue you fuckin traitorous pleb" shit. I see friends in the PSL working their ass off and getting chewed out by the DNC primary revolutionaries. I don't think it's unreasonable to resent y'all giving us Monopoly money (that you can only spend in the ~~company store~~ US treasury) in exchange for making all your shit and growing most of your food at gunpoint while you argue about whether Bezos should get all of it or if you should take some from him.
I'm sorry for the children in the US and the immigrants/indigenous, the rest of y'all have had plenty of time to straighten things out
That's the thing though. The MIC hawks that do all the evil shit will be just fine, they've got money and connections. Most of their supporters will be fine for a good while, they're the right color. The collateral damage is primarily going to be the children, the working class, the immigrants getting sent off to camps.
The people most responsible for the evil done by this country will be the last ones to suffer, if they're not long dead by the time "find out" comes home to roost. The bulk of the suffering will be the people who hate it as much as you.
That's why it's better to join a good org like PSL, so that the working class can actually take charge, rather than walk hand in hand into barbarism. We need to learn from what's worked in the past to create a better future for all of us, and that starts with proper theory and practice. I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list just for my own use when I try to agitate and educate others. I think that would be a good place for you to start if you haven't started reading theory yet.
Returning to the beginning of this thread, the DNC and GOP are both relatively the same when it comes to foreign policy. They already are close to the same domestically, but they are near identical for the global south, because the US Empire is the world's imperialist hegemon. The working class needs to work towards decolonization, anti-imperialism, and socialism, and it can only do so through its own party, not bourgeois parties. We must be practical, simply trying to work with the tools the empire wants us to will never work.
Imperialism is the highest stage of the capitalist mode of production, in which monopolies and cartels become the prevalent economic force of society. Lenin synthesized...
It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook
Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!
Section I: Getting Started
What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?
Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous speech.
Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism
By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!
Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.
Section III: Political Economy
That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.
Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.
Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.
Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?
If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.
Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.
Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity
The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.
Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.
De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.
Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.
Section VI: Putting it into Practice!
It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!
Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.
Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!
With your new understanding and knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, here is a mini What is to be Done? of your own to follow, and take with you as practical advice.
Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to us to protect ourselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it.
Read theory. Don't think that you are done now! Just because you have the basics, doesn't mean you know more than you do. If you have not investigated a subject, don't speak on it! Don't speak nonsense, but listen!
Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground, let nobody be forgotten or left behind. There is strength in numbers, when one marginalized group is targeted, many more are sure to follow.
Be industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well.
Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. Liberals will not save us, we must save each other.
Be persistent. If you feel like a single water droplet against a mountain, think of canyons and valleys. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
"Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent."
Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) is a national organization of revolutionaries fighting for socialism in the United States. Our home is in the working class.
This is a species associated with myths and legends. In many European languages, the Nightjar is known as the ‘goatsucker,’ with the genus name Caprimulgus deriving from the Latin for ‘milker of goats’.
Humans and great potoos have had limited direct interaction due to the bird’s secretive and nocturnal nature. In some cultures, its eerie vocalizations have led to its association with death or bad luck. However, more recently, birdwatchers and ecotourists have become fascinated by the great potoo, appreciating its unique characteristics and mysterious behavior.
Discover the great potoo, a cryptic bird known for its camouflage, unique behavior, and fascinating diet in the tropical forests of Central and South America.
The first direct flight from Moscow to Pyongyang landed on July 29, 2025, marking a historic milestone in Russia–North Korea relations and opening a new chapter in bilateral connectivity
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Wow, that was awesome, broke her down to the real issues. She is an "ex"-CIA who has cloaked herself in mid-western, 'just a local state senator' but cornered, she exposed herself as THE PROBLEM. Genocide-first politician, support the industrial complex. And lets not mush words, you never really leave the CIA.
They tried and failed many times. The most recent of which was Obama's pivot to Asia, whose main goal was isolating China from it's neighbors. That failed completely, so it's just western chauvinist media coping now.
Cuba received donated equipment from China to install photovoltaic solar parks in several provinces, aiming to alleviate the energy crisis and reduce fuel consumption amidst ongoing blackouts.
Any Cuba understanders here? My understanding is one of the main issues for Cuba is fuel embargoes to power their country. Can renewables solve this for them?
That's my understanding as well. If China can help Cuba deploy solar at scale then their main problem goes away. Incidentally, this is true for the rest of the world as well. Aside from saving the environment, switching to solar means that countries are no longer tied to oil trade and that further lessens the grip of the empire.
Yes, agree, they will make it worse, especially by years end (just in time for the holidays.) However, this was going on during Biden's reign. It is a uni-party issue.
Sometimes the stupid blindsides you. Even though you've come to expect every day to be a parade of new and worse shit. Sometimes it catches you unaware. That's what this post did to me today.
Im not sure if this goes here like a major amount of my posts. Im looking for a alternative to youtube for beginners who just want to be apart of the community in a old school youtube perspective but not too old that it feels outdated. I sadly created a movie recap just to see how hard it was, it took me almost 2 hours just to slice and remove parts of the movie only to get a copyright warning by youtube. I mostly just blame my newbie editing skills, but is there a alternative to youtube that allows me to post videos youtube dosent want me to?
If you want to see my horrible cliche recap here it is. Be warned its not great and it has one of those text to speech voiceovers and such. I feel like i worked hard but at the same time i may have made slop. (please dont steal)
Not so bad but not compatible with all instances. What I noticed in the past, is campaigns against peertube to avoid people from using it, something quite strange (actually disgusting) but a sign that it's probably considered a "dangerous" platform for the established ones
It was created by youtubers to try and gain independence from youtube, it's ~~cooperatively~~ owned by the creators. It is mostly the same as those creators youtube content but with no ads and less ad friendly parts added in, occasionally a creator will put out some passion project that wouldn't work on an ad supported platform. It skews edutainment and video essay type stuff, contrapoints, strange parts, tom scott, philosophy tube and Not Just Bikes are a few that are involved. Quite a lot of content overall but most of it available on youtube.
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So far i haven't come across something better than odysee. It has a community, but like most alternatives for larger platforms, the userbase is smaller, and often times i'll also find some unhinged conspiratorial comments on there that are kinda off putting to me lol.
If having a community is a requirement for OP, then I'd say Odysee kinda sucks because it's full of National Socialists. Though I primary go there for watching videos, so a few nose emoji spammers don't bother me.
I also dislike that it shows recommendations/related videos. That's an anti-feature of YouTube for me, so I don't want it on Odysee either. That can be fixed by using a desktop app without recommendations like github.com/trizen/lbry-viewer (not sure if that's the correct one, I haven't installed it yet on my current system.)
Russia’s Foreign Intelligence Service has alleged that top Western officials are plotting to replace Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky with former military commander Valerii Zaluzhnyi, signaling a major shift in the geopolitical strategy for Ukr…
Valerii Zaluzhnyi, current Ambassador of Ukraine to the United Kingdom, and President Volodymyr Zelenskyy enjoy the highest levels of public trust among Ukrainians, followed closely by Kyrylo Budanov, Head of Defence Intelligence of Ukraine.
Former National Security Council director Thomas Graham has called on Russia to declare victory in Ukraine, arguing in The National Interest that prolonging the war would only weaken Moscow’s global standing
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Capitalism uses science in the same way religion does. It cherry picks the parts of science that it thinks helps its case and everything else is blasphemy.
It's kind of like how the Catholic church now believes in "evolution" but God was the one putting commands into the game engine console to make things evolve, and that the ability for living things to evolve at all is in fact proof of intelligent design.
Reddy Kilowatt is a cartoon character that served as a corporate spokesman for electricity generation in the United States and other countries for nearly one hundred years. Currently, the Reddy Kilowatt trademark is owned by Xcel Energy.
Come on kiddos, the secret key to enter my playland is a fork! Stick it in the special keyhole in your walls, they're low to the floor because they're meant for kids!
A liberal is someone who supports every social movement except the current one and opposes every war except the current one. I know you know this, but i suspect there will be commenters who need to see it.
just_another_person
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •If that doesn't reveal anything, maybe try to get your hands on a dirt cheap alternate GPU. Memory and GPU would also be my two possible suspects.
Also GPU driver I guess but I feel like you wouldn't be alone with the issue then.
just_another_person
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •The graphics glitching could just be from a kernel bail of some sort. List some specs of your machine, that would be helpful.
Another thing: what's your PSU wattage?
Edit: checked, and your CPU can draw 125W, while the GPU can draw up to 250W, so if you don't have at least a 400W PSU, you could have some problems. Maybe consider under locking just a tad, or locking the GPU at a lower clock to prevent big power draws. That might help. Would hurt to check the temp on that GPU as well.
Botzo
in reply to just_another_person • • •I would ask for a healthy margin above 100%, especially if you're bringing an older PSU. There are a ton of variables for determining what is needed, but if your TDP on those 2 items is pushing 400W, we should be aiming for 500+ with an 80 Plus certification.
This definitely plays like a failing PSU to me as I experienced similar issues when mine started dropping on one of the 12V rails with similar hardware (fx8350, r9 290) several years ago.
80 PLUS certification specifications and ratings | CLEAResult
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Huh, well the fact that you're just logged out suggests that the DE either encounters an unrecoverable error, or the system runs out of resources and has to kill some userspace processes to free them up and your DE just happens to be one of the things it kills, which can leave it in an unrecoverable state.
The pink squares do suggest a gpu-related problem however, it's possible that your gpu is either overheating or doesn't get enough power from the power supply. What gpu temperatures and ram usage are you seeing before the freeze? And what power supply are you using?
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •If you move that stuff to a partition that’s different from where root lives, switching operating systems shouldn’t be a problem. You can just mount the data partition on your new OS, if the need arises.
bridgeenjoyer
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •inxi, you can dump a lot of data about your system withinxi -Fazy. Folks might be better able to help you then. The-zflag filters sensitive information.FauxLiving
in reply to bleistift2 • • •That's a pretty neat tool. I'll definitely be using that for future troubleshooting.
My only, minor, gripe is that it shows kernel parameters which can contain the UUID of the LUKS partition containing your sysroot. This isn't a factor in most people's threat model, but it's worth pointing out.
jinx
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •I was using it with a 3070 just fine. Not necessarily sold on it, but so far so good.
I mean it's dead, (for now) because my CPU died to the fate of belonging to the wrong Intel generation.
Now after finding a lottery ticket I will buy a new board and CPU, and a new GPU next in priority (since it does still work, but I won't be buying Nvidia or Intel anymore.
BCsven
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Have any other distros been tried on this box and do the same issues present with them?
I think the recommended PSU combined with an RX580 is 600W, so you might try swapping PSUs.
Another option if you don't have a spare to test with is to undervolt the GPU.
If it stabilizes at that point, it would suggest the PSU needs replacement. At least that way you wouldn't be dropping money on a hunch.
Another good indicator of that being GPU/PSU issues is the fact you mention not being able to get past the login screen.
Both X11 and Wayland (especially Wayland) crank up the VRAM usage at that point due to compositors caching and whatnot
data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to Mordikan • • •I've been running with an RX 580 on my desktop with Debian Testing for three years, and I've had no problems like this.
I'm running with a 750W power supply, so I'm inclined to agree that the the OP should pop open their PC case and check their wattage. Assuming this is an ATX box, it's probably just a matter of removing two screws and sliding off the side of the case and reading the wattage. If it's a reasonable wattage and it's still giving issues, then try the aforementioned undervolting.
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •I'm curious, what's an example of non-native drivers?
Driver bugs exist, it could definitely be a hole in someone's testing. I would assume the number of people running PopOS (and whatever build of mesa their release is on) with that specific GPU is pretty low. Maybe try the amdgpu-pro driver and see if the issues go away (or change, heh)? Not sure what the recommended way of installing it on PopOS/Ubuntu/Debian is.
bridgeenjoyer
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Ah, I think you mean non-free or just non-open source.
Something being "native" means it's compiled for your specific hardware, ex. an x86-64 binary running on an x86-64 CPU. An example of non-native is an x86 binary being emulated on an ARM CPU, Java bytecode running on a JVM, or Python code running in an interpreter.
But your drivers are all definitely all running natively on your hardware.
bridgeenjoyer
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Just to clarify, this almost certainly won't be better on Mint for several reasons. One, PopOS! and Mint are both based on Ubuntu, so they would likely run into a lot of the same issues. I also have an RX 580, and while I haven't used either of these distros on that machine, I have run Debian Testing for several years, and since both these distros descend from Debian, I have run similar package versions and would likely have known years ago if a major bug occurred for my GPU.
As said by @Mordikan@kbin.earth below, I would be inclined to check the power supply, and maybe even make sure the PCIe card is properly seated.
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in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •I didn’t even know there were still cases bundled with power supplies! But yes, in general, throughout the history of PC building, I’m pretty sure included power supplies in any brand tend to be very low wattage. The power supply probably isn’t even broken - I’m just guessing the PC’s was upgraded to an RX 580, and the RX 580 was more power hungry than the original graphics card and the power supply just wasn’t designed for it.
Just a tip - next time you build or upgrade a PC, use this tool to estimate what power supply you need; newegg.com/tools/power-supply-…
You can get a 700 watt PSU that should work in the $50-70 range, although honestly, it might be worth it to go a bit bigger so you can cannibalize it for a future build when the time comes - even the RX 580, which is newer than your CPU, is getting a bit old and I hope to replace it if I build a new PC in 2028.
bridgeenjoyer
in reply to data1701d (He/Him) • • •Oh yeah, the cheap ones do, and this was just a second hand pc I got for 40 bucks to have for messing around with. The psu may not even be name brand as there's no labeling at all on it.
Right now, throttling the wattage allowable from the card has fixed it! I ended up using LACT for this, which works perfectly.
Yes im very behind in the pc world. My brain still thinks 4 gigs of ram is massive, ha. My main pc is another rx 580 with a little bit better fx proc and 16g ram, and it does an excellent job for everything I do. The proc is definitely a bottleneck though. Maybe ill go am5 next year
data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Luckily, I can probably live with using mine a few more years. Mine's an early AM4 system with a Ryzen 5 2600 in it. My CPU performance isn't a huge bottleneck (although I'd like a couple more cores for faster compilation).
Really, it's my graphics card. The 580's fine for some basic gaming, but it sort of got left in the dust with ROCm support - it's kind-of-sort-of supported, but not well enough for Blender to work with it.
I think the situation's improved with ROCm on consumer GPUs enough now that so long as I buy a newer card, I should be fine. Debian support's improved a lot as well - for many GPUs, it should just be a matter of
sudo apt install hipccnow. However, Debian is still a few versions behind in experimental and doesn't support the latest AMD cards, but I suspect that getting it packaged was the hard part, and that once Trixie releases, Forky/Testing will catch up in a few months.data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to bridgeenjoyer • • •Unrelated thing - just found out something funny.
Apparently, Torvalds himself uses a 580.
phoronix.com/news/Radeon-RX-59…
Linus Torvalds Continues Using A Radeon RX 580 Graphics Card, Back On An Intel Laptop
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