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Liberals parroting liberal media: Churchill was a hero!

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Some actual Churchill quotes. This is who repeatedly gets voted the "Greatest Briton" by the British people.

"It is, thank heaven, difficult if not impossible for the modern European to fully appreciate the force which fanaticism exercises among an ignorant, warlike and Oriental population. Several generations have elapsed since the nations of the West have drawn the sword in religious controversy, and the evil memories of the gloomy past have soon faded in the strong, clear light of Rationalism and human sympathy. Indeed it is evident that Christianity, however degraded and distorted by cruelty and intolerance, must always exert a modifying influence on men's passions, and protect them from the more violent forms of fanatical fever, as we are protected from smallpox by vaccination."
"I think we shall have to take the Chinese in hand and regulate them. I believe that as civilized nations become more powerful they will get more ruthless, and the time will come when the world will impatiently bear the existence of great barbaric nations who may at any time arm themselves and menace civilized nations. I believe in the ultimate partition of China — I mean ultimate. I hope we shall not have to do it in our day. The Aryan stock is bound to triumph."
"I propose that 100,000 degenerate Britons should be forcibly sterilized and others put in labour camps to halt the decline of the British race."
"I think a curse should rest on me — because I love this war. I know it's smashing and shattering the lives of thousands every moment — and yet — I can't help it — I enjoy every second of it."
"One might as well legalise sodomy as recognise the Bolsheviks."
"I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas. I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes."
"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others."
"One may dislike Hitler's system and yet admire his patriotic achievement. If our country were defeated, I hope we should find a champion as indomitable to restore our courage and lead us back to our place among the nations."
"I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."
"I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion."

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Churchill voted greatest Briton

War-time leader Winston Churchill is voted the greatest Briton of all time, following a nationwide BBC poll.

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“There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution, by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews, it is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others.”

almost indistinguishable from Hitler

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Grok, is this true?

NATO member criticizes West over Ukraine/Gaza geopolitical ‘menu’

Countries criticizing Russia are often “very quiet” on Israel’s military campaign in the Gaza, Norwegian FM Espen Barth Eide has said

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Adding Text to Your Ebitengine Game

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Kremlin declares Russia ‘immune to sanctions’

Kremlin points to Russian ‘immunity’ from sanctions

The Russian economy has withstood years of pressure over the Ukraine crisis, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov has said

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Adding Text to Your Ebitengine Game

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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.

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This video complements the text tutorial at trevors-tutorials.com/0006-add…

Trevors-Tutorials.com is where you can find free programming tutorials. The focus is on Go and Ebitengine game development. Watch the for more info.

The Go Programming Language

Go is an open source programming language that makes it simple to build secure, scalable systems.

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UK Users Need to Post Selfie or Photo ID to View Reddit's r/IsraelCrimes, r/UkraineWarFootage

“If visibility of r/IsraelCrimes is being restricted under the Online Safety Act, it’s only because the state fears accountability,” moderators say.

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#censorship

Building Blocks of Life in Deep Space Could Mean Life Extends Further Than Once Thought

Learn more about the prebiotic molecules who's origins come from deep space.

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The Cycle

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slowmorella

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how about killing time while making the vertical line on the bottom left line up with the lines of the arrows above it, you monster.

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Researchers Are Resurrecting Billion-Dollar Disaster Tool Trump Killed | Nonprofit Climate Central has hired the scientist behind a key database of costly weather disasters to rebuild it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-05/researchers-will-rebuild-billion-dollar-disaster-tool-trump-killed?accessToken=eyJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiIsInR5cCI6IkpXVCJ9.eyJzb3VyY2UiOiJTdWJzY3JpYmVyR2lmdGVkQXJ0aWNsZSIsImlhdCI6MTc1NDQyNTg4MywiZXhwIjoxNzU1MDMwNjgzLCJhcnRpY2xlSWQiOiJUMEpGTUlHUEZIUVYwMCIsImJjb25uZWN0SWQiOiJDODQyRERFMUM0RDI0OUVDQUQ5REU4NDhDQkZGNUNBOCJ9.CDk1aZjICe2hCJYiHAfS3iEtz6WQ7sq_1lYbPglqphg

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Volodymyr Zelenskiy Needs to Rescue His Own Presidency

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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-07-28/ukraine-s-volodymyr-zelenskiy-needs-to-rescue-his-own-presidency

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folaht

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Why do US media companies find it obligatory to call the Special Military Operation a "full invasion"?

A) There's never been a plan to invade the Western half of the country.
B) they never do so with Israël's invasion of Palestine, NATO's invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan,
which ARE a full invasion.

Do they get paid by the CIA for this?

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vfreire85

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this article has the stench of sunken costs.

Trump imposes 25% tariff on India plus ‘penalty’ over ties to Russia

US president calls Delhi a friend but criticises policies such as buying arms and energy from Russia amid Ukraine war

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The foreign ministers of 15 countries are ready to recognize Palestine at the UN General Assembly

The foreign ministers of 15 countries have supported the consideration of the possibility of recognizing Palestine. This is stated in their joint statement, which was released by the French Foreign Ministry.

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Arthur Besse via Space, the final frontier

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'A City on Mars' is a reality check for anyone dreaming about life on the Red Planet

It wasn't until maybe a year before we were done writing — and we wrote for four years — that we decided this book is actually about why space settlements aren't coming soon.

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I really don't understand the obsession with Mars to be honest. The Moon seems like the obvious choice for building a permanent outpost. It's much closer, so if anything happens then there's at least the possibility of sending help. It doesn't have atmosphere meaning that you don't have to deal with problems like dust storms. It also has far lower gravity so it would be possible to build infrastructure like space elevators, and lack of atmosphere makes high speed maglev trains possible.

While living on the surface would be problematic due to radiation and dust, it would be possible to build large underground habitats. It might even be possible to find lava tubes and simply pressurize them. There wouldn't be any actual reason to go outside. We already know there is water and all sorts of minerals on the moon as well, so it would be possible for the outpost to be largely self sufficient.

If industry was bootstrapped and a space elevator built, which can be done with current technology, then it would be possible to send effectively unlimited amount of stuff into orbit from there. You could build large space habitats, and space ships designed to stay in orbit that just dock with the elevator. This would pave the way to making deep space missions of the kind we could only dream of now.

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Defeated On Battlefield Kiev Responds With Terror

Nazi Regime gonna Nazi

https://southfront.press/defeated-on-battlefield-kyiv-responds-with-terror/https://southfront.press/defeated-on-battlefield-kyiv-responds-with-terror/

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Russian Troops Push into Kupyansk as Northern Encirclement Tightens

Following intense fighting on the northern frontlines, Russian forces have reached the northern outskirts of Kupyansk, marking a significant breakthro...

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Trump announces 25% tariff on India and unspecified penalties for buying Russian oil

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-russia-india-9e388a55583e7007149819c52f0fd71b

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Chainweasel

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It still won't get us to stop talking about the Trumpstein files.

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OK, not to be runde or anything, but why is your banner AI generated

In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn't been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art.
Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness.
Wouldn't it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)?
I would love to hear your thoughts!

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with the tech itself. Your issue is with capitalist relations and the way this technology is used under capitalism. Focus on what the actual problem is. dialecticaldispatches.substack…

A Marxist Perspective On AI

AI has become as a deeply polarizing issue on the left, with many people having concerns regarding its reliance on unauthorized training data, displacement of workers, lack of creativity, and environmental costs.

^{Dialectical Dispatches}

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teagrrl

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I read your link. I think my main issue is the framing as though AI is just a new tool that people are afraid of similar to the introduction of the camera.

Even outside of capitalist exploitation, AI generated art suffers from an inherent creative limitation. It's a derivative and subtractive tool. It can only remix what already exists. It lacks intention and human experience that make art meaningful. The creative process isn't just about the final image. There's choices, mistakes, revisions, and personal investment, etc. No amount of super long and super specific prompts can do this.

This is why a crude MS Paint drawing or a hastily made meme can resonate more than a "flawless" AI generated piece. Statistical approximation can't imbue a piece with lived experience or subvert expectations with purpose. It is creative sterility.

I can see some applications of AI generation for the more mundane aspects of creation, like the actions panel in Photoshop. But I think framing creative folks' objections as an act of self preservation as though we are afraid of technology is a bit of a strawman and reductive of the reality of the situation. Although there are definitely artists that react this way, I admit.

It is true that new tools reshape art. The comparison to photography or Photoshop is flawed. Those tools still require direct engagement with the creative process. In the link you provided the argument is made for a pro-AI stance using the argument that the photographer composes a shot and manipulating light. In contrast to AI which automates the creative act itself. That's where their argument falls apart.

As for democratization goes the issue isn't accessibility (plenty of free, nonexploitative tools already exist for beginners) and that is something that could be improved. AI doesn’t teach someone to draw, operate a camera, paint, reiterate, conceptualize, and develop artistic judgment. It lets them skip those steps entirely resulting in outputs that are aesthetically polished and creatively hollow. True democratization would mean empowering people to create.

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Even outside of capitalist exploitation, AI generated art suffers from an inherent creative limitation. It’s a derivative and subtractive tool. It can only remix what already exists.

There's little evidence that this is fundamentally different from how our own minds work. We are influenced by our environment, and experiences. The art we create is a product of our material conditions. If you look at art from different eras you can clearly see that it's grounded in the material reality people live in. Furthermore, an artist can train the AI on their own style, as the video linked in the article shows with a concrete use case. That allows the artists to automate the mechanical work of producing the style they've come up with.

It lacks intention and human experience that make art meaningful.

That's what makes it a tool. A paintbrush or an app like Krita also lacks intention. It's the human using the tool that has the idea that they want to convey, and they use the tool to do that. We see this already happening a lot with memes being generated using AI tools. A few examples here. It's a case of people coming up with ideas and then using AI to visualize them so they can share them with others.

This is why a crude MS Paint drawing or a hastily made meme can resonate more than a “flawless” AI generated piece.

If we're just talking about pressing a button and getting an image sure. However, the actual tools like ComfyUI have complex workflows where the artist has a lot of direction over every detail that's being generated. Personally, I don't see how it's fundamentally different from using a 3D modelling tool like Blender or a movie director guiding actors in execution of the script.

I can see some applications of AI generation for the more mundane aspects of creation, like the actions panel in Photoshop.

Right, I think that's how these tools will be used professionally. However, there are also plenty of people who aren't professionals, and don't have artistic talent. These people now have a tool to flesh out an idea in their heads which they wouldn't have been able to do previously. I see this as a net positive. The examples above show how this can be a powerful tool for agitation, satire, and political commentary.

Those tools still require direct engagement with the creative process

So do tools like ComfyUI, if you look at the workflow, it very much resembles these tools.

the argument that the photographer composes a shot and manipulating light. In contrast to AI which automates the creative act itself

I do photography and I disagree here. The photographer looks at the scene, they do not create the scene themselves. The skill of the photographer is in noticing interesting patterns of light, objects, and composition in the scene that are aesthetically appealing. It's the skill of being able to curate visually interesting imagery. Similarly, what the AI does is generate the scene, and what the human does is curate the content that's generated based on their aesthetic.

AI doesn’t teach someone to draw, operate a camera, paint, reiterate, conceptualize, and develop artistic judgment. It lets them skip those steps entirely resulting in outputs that are aesthetically polished and creatively hollow. True democratization would mean empowering people to create.

Again, AI is a tool and it doesn't magically remove the need for people to develop an aesthetic, to learn about lighting, composition, and so on. However, you're also mixing in mechanical skills like operating the camera which have little to do with actual art. These tools very much do empower people to create, but to create something interesting still takes skill.

Workflow - ComfyUI

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teagrrl

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It honestly just seems like you want AI to be a stand in for creative thinking and intention rather than it actually enabling creative processes. Your examples you provide don't teach those skills. Everyone has ideas. I have ideas of being a master painter creating incredible paintings, I can visually imagine them in my head, AI can shit out something that somewhat resembles that I want. It can train on my own style of [insert medium]. But I am always at the mercy of the output of that tool. It would not be a problem if it were a normal tool like a camera or paintbrush. But when you use a thought limiting tool like AI it gives you limited results in return. It is always going to be chained to the whatever that particular AI has trained on. Artists develop a style over years, it changes from day to day, year to year, AI cannot evolve, yet an artist's style does just through repetition of creation. AI creates the predictive average of existing works.

I think the biggest thing here is that AI is a limited tool from the ground up rather than enabling creativity. You can't train AI to develop a new concept or a new idea, that's reserved to humans alone. It's that human intangibility that's yet to be achieved via AI and until sentience is achieved you're never going to get that from a limited tool like AI. If sentience is achieved, you'd have to recognize its humanity and at that point prompts are no longer needed, it can create its own work.

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It honestly just seems like you want AI to be a stand in for creative thinking and intention rather than it actually enabling creative processes.

I think was pretty clear in what I actually said. I think AI is a tool that automates the mechanical aspect of producing art. In fact, I repeatedly stated that I think the intention and creative thinking comes from the human user of the tool. I even specifically said that the tool does not replace the need for artistic ability.

Everyone has ideas. I have ideas of being a master painter creating incredible paintings, I can visually imagine them in my head, AI can shit out something that somewhat resembles that I want.

This is just gatekeeping. You're basically saying that only people who have the technical skills should be allowed to turn ideas in their heads into content that can be shared with others, and tough luck for everyone else.

But I am always at the mercy of the output of that tool. It would not be a problem if it were a normal tool like a camera or paintbrush.

That's completely false, you're either misunderstanding how these tools work currently or intentionally misrepresenting how they work. I urge you to actually spend the time to learn how a tool like ComfyUI works and what it is capable of.

It is always going to be chained to the whatever that particular AI has trained on.

What it's trained on is literally millions of images in every style imaginable, and what it is able to do is to blend these styles. The person using the tool can absolutely create a unique style. Furthermore, as I've already noted, and you've ignored, the artist can train the tool on their own style.

AI cannot evolve, yet an artist’s style does just through repetition of creation.

Yes, AI can evolve the same way artist evolves by being trained on more styles. Take a look at LoRA approach as one example of how easily new styles can be adapted to existing models.

I think the biggest thing here is that AI is a limited tool from the ground up rather than enabling creativity.

With all due respect, I think that you simply haven't spent the time how the tool actually works and what it is capable of.

It’s that human intangibility that’s yet to be achieved via AI and until sentience is achieved you’re never going to get that from a limited tool like AI

Replace AI in that sentence with paint brush and it will make just as much sense.

If sentience is achieved, you’d have to recognize its humanity and at that point prompts are no longer needed, it can create its own work.

You're once again ignoring my core point which is that AI is a tool and it is not meant to replace the human. It is meant to be used by people who have sentience and a critical eye for the specific imagery they're aiming to produce.

Lora models and how to use them with Stable Diffusion (by ThinkDiffusion) | Civitai

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jsomae

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Wouldn’t it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner

I hate it when AI is used to replace the work an artist would have been paid for. But uh, this is a random open-source forum; there's no funding for artists to make banners. Rejecting AI art -- which was voted for by the community -- just seems like baseless virtue signalling. No artist is going to get paid if we remove it.

But like if you want to commission an artist with your own money, by all means go ahead. You'll still most likely need another community vote to approve it though.

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SanguinePar

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That doesn't change that real artists who made real art will have had their work used without permission or payment to help generate the banner. I'm with OP.

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jsomae

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If I drew something myself, those artists would also not be paid. I can understand a deontological argument against using AI trained on people's art, but for me, the utilitarian argument is much stronger -- don't use AI if it puts an artist out of work.

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SanguinePar

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Yeah, but if you drew it yourself then they wouldn't expect to be paid. Unless you plagiarised them to the degree that would trigger a copyright claim, they would (at worst) just see it as a job that they could have had, but didn't. Nothing of theirs was directly used, and at least something original of theirs was created. Whereas AI images are wholly based on other work and include no original ideas at all.

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You haven't explained how it would be different in any way. Human artists learn by emulating other artists, and vast majority of art is derivative in nature. Unless a specific style is specified by the user input, AI images are also not plagiarised to the degree that would trigger a copyright claim. The only actual difference here is in the fact that the process is automated and a machine is producing the image instead of a human drawing it by hand.

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rumba

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Real artists use uncited reference art all the time. That person that drew a picture of Catherine the Great for a video game certainly didn't list the artist of the source art they were looking at when they drew it. No royalties went to that source artist. People stopped buying reference art books for the most part when Google image search became a thing.

A hell, a lot of professional graphic artists right now use AI for inspiration.

This isn't to say that the problem isn't real and a lot of artists stand to lose their livelihood over it, but nobody's paying someone to draw a banner for this forum. The best you're going to get is some artist doing out of the goodness of their heart when they could be spending their time and effort on a paying job.

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SanguinePar

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Real artists may be influenced, but they still put something of themselves into what they make. AI only borrows from others, it creates nothing.

I realise no-one is paying someone to make a banner for this forum, it would need to be someone choosing to do it because they want there to be a banner. But the real artists whose work was used by the AI to make the banner had no choice in the matter, let alone any chance of recompense.

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rumba

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So what's the solution for this board, they should just put up a black image? Should they start a crowdfunding to pay an artist?

It's a really bothers an artist enough they could make a banner for the board and ask them to swap out the AI. But, they'll have to make something that more people like than the AI.

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supersquirrel

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But, they’ll have to make something that more people like than the AI.

No, it does not have to be better than the AI image to be preferable.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

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Speak for yourself.

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patatas

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The banner could be anything or nothing at all, and as long as it isn't AI generated, I would like it better

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I, on the other hand, would not.

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patatas

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Perhaps we should ask ChatGPT what to do about this?

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or perhaps you could stop perseverating

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patatas

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ • 1 mese fa • •

Not sure where I'm doing that - have been having some pretty interesting conversations with others tbh. My point is that you wouldn't outsource that decision to ChatGPT, so why is the creation of a banner image outsourced to one of these inherently dehumanizing systems?

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dialecticaldispatches.substack…

A Marxist Perspective On AI

AI has become as a deeply polarizing issue on the left, with many people having concerns regarding its reliance on unauthorized training data, displacement of workers, lack of creativity, and environmental costs.

^{Dialectical Dispatches}

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patatas

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Will read your link, but when I saw the phrase "democratising creativity" I rolled my eyes hard and then grabbed this for you from my bookmarks. But I'll read the rest anyway

aeon.co/essays/can-computers-t…

Edit: yeah so that piece starts out by saying how art is about the development of what I'm taking to be a sort of 'curatorial' ability, but ends up arguing that as long as the slop machines are nominally controlled by workers, that it's fine actually. I couldn't disagree more.

Elsewhere in a discussion with another user here, I attempted to bring up Ursula Franklin's distinction between holistic and prescriptive technologies. AI is, to me, exemplary of a prescriptive process, in that its entire function is to destroy opportunities for decision-making by the user. The piece you linked admits this is the goal:

"What distinguishes it is its capacity to automate aspects of cognitive and creative tasks such as writing, coding, and illustration that were once considered uniquely human."

I reject this as being worthwhile. The output of those human pursuits can be mimicked by this technology, but, because (as the link I posted makes clear) these systems do not think or understand, they cannot be said to perform those tasks any more than a camera can be said to be painting a picture.

And despite this piece arguing that the people using these processes are merely incorporating a 'tool' into their work, and that AI will open up avenues for incredible new modes of creativity, I struggle to think of an example where the message some GenAI output conveyed was anything other than "I do not really give a shit about the quality of the output".

These days our online environment suffers constantly from this stream of "good enough, I guess, who cares" stuff that insults the viewer by presuming they just want to see some sort of image at the top of a page, and don't care about anything beyond this crass consumptive requirement.

The banner image in question is a great example of this. The overall aesthetic is stereotypical of GenAI images, which supports the notion that control of the process was more or less ceded to the system (or, alternately, that these systems provide few opportunities for directing the process). There are bizarre glitches that the person writing the prompt couldn't be bothered to fix, the composition is directionless, the question-marks have a jarring crispness that clashes with the rest of the image, the tablets? signs? are made from some unknown material, perhaps the same indistinct stuff as the ground these critters are standing on.

It's all actively hostile to a sense of community, as it pretends that communication is something that can just as well be accomplished by a statistical process, because who cares about trying to create something from the heart?

These systems are an insult to human intelligence while also undermining it by automating our decision-making processes. I wrote an essay about this if you're interested, which I'll link here and sign off, because I don't want to be accused again of repeating myself unnecessarily: thedabbler.patatas.ca/pages/ai…

Can computers think? No. They can’t actually do anything | Aeon Essays

For all the promise and dangers of AI, computers plainly can’t think. To think is to resist – something no machine does

^{Alva Noë (Aeon Magazine)}

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Feel free to keep tilting at windmills I guess.

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RaivoKulli

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People are so dramatic over AI

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

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I feel like it's just perseveration at this point. This tech exists, it's not going away, people just have to learn to live with that.

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Cowbee [he/they]

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Right now, anti-AI rhetoric is taking the same unprincipled rhetoric that the Luddites pushed forward in attacking machinery. They identified a technology linked to their proletarianization and thus a huge source of their new misery, but the technology was not at fault. Capitalism was.

What generative AI is doing is making art less artisinal. The independent artists are under attack, and are being proletarianized. However, that does not mean AI itself is bad. Copyright, for example, is bad as well, but artists depend on it. The same reaction against AI was had against the camera for making things like portraits and still-lifes more accessible, but nowadays we would not think photography to be anything more than another tool.

The real problems with AI are its massive energy consumption, its over-application in areas where it actively harms production and usefulness, and its application under capitalism where artists are being punished while corporations are flourishing.

In this case, there's no profit to be had. People do not need to hire artists to make a banner for a niche online community. Hell, this could have been made using green energy. These are not the same instances that make AI harmful in capitalist society.

Correct analysis of how technologies are used, how they can be used in our interests vs the interests of capital, and correct identification of legitimate vs illegitimate use-cases are where we can succeed and learn from the mistakes our predecessors made. Correct identification of something linked to deteriorating conditions combined with misanalyzing the nature of how they are related means we come to incorrect conclusions, like when the Luddites initially started attacking machinery, rather than organizing against the capitalists.

Hand-created art as a medium of human expression will not go away. AI can't replace that. What it can do is make it easier to create images that don't necessarily need to have that purpose, as an expression of the human experience, like niche online forum banners or conveying a concept visually. Not all images need to be created in artisinal fashion, just like we don't need to hand-draw images of real life when a photo would do. Neither photos nor AI can replace art. Not to mention, but there is an art to photography as well, each human use of any given medium to express the human experience can be artisinal.

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It's worth noting that the argument regarding massive energy consumption is no longer true. Models perform better than ones that required a data centre to run just a year ago can already be run on a laptop today. Meanwhile, people are still finding lots of new ways to optimize them. There is little reason to think they're not going to continue getting more efficient for the foreseeable future.

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Fair point, but I do think that until we see more widespread adoption of renewables in the US and other heavy-polluters, energy use in general is a hot topic we are already beyond capacity for. There needs to be a real qualitative leap to green energy some point soon, and we can't just rely on the PRC to electrify the world if the US is intent on delaying that shift as much as possible.

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Oh I completely agree there.

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Are the UK and China Authoritarian?

I've often heard that China is authoritarian, particularly due to events like the suppression of student protests in Hong Kong. However, I'm curious about more recent examples. Conversely, I've been hearing about the UK's Online Safety Act being used to target Wikipedia editors and silence protests, which raises questions about authoritarian tendencies there as well. What specific examples do you have that demonstrate whether these countries are authoritarian or not?

#asklemmy

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The term authoritarianism is utterly meaningless because all governments rely on coercion to maintain their authority. The state is fundamentally an instrument that’s used by the ruling class to maintain its dominance. The whole notion that political systems can be neatly categorized into authoritarian or democratic binaries is deeply infantile.

The reality is that every government derives its authority from its monopoly on legal violence. The ability to enforce laws, suppress dissent, and maintain order is derived from control over police, military, and judicial systems. Whether a government is labelled authoritarian or democratic, the fundamental basis of its power lies here. Therefore, the only meaningful questions to ask are which class interests it represents, and to what extent can it be held accountable to them.

What ultimately matters is which class controls the institutions of state violence. In capitalist democracies, the government represent the interests of the economic elites who fund political campaigns, own media outlets, and control key industries. Western public lacks the mechanisms necessary to hold the government to account, and the ruling class is disconnected from the broader population. That’s precisely what’s driving political discontent all across western sphere today. Meanwhile, in so-called authoritarian regimes, the ruling party serves the working class as seen in countries like China, Cuba, or Vietnam. Hence why there is widespread public trust in these government and they enjoy broad support from the masses.

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The UK has multiple political parties and free democratic elections. Just because the current government passed a law you don't agree with doesn't mean the country is authoritarian.

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Imagine thinking that the number of parties have anything to do with how democratic a country is. 🤣

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US labor activist Chris Smalls assaulted by IDF during Gaza aid trip, group says

I would really like it if Chris Smalls ran for political office.

DRAFT CHRIS SMALLS 2026/2028

US labor activist Chris Smalls assaulted by IDF during Gaza aid trip, group says

Freedom Flotilla Coalition says Smalls was ‘choked and kicked’ after aid ship trying to reach Gaza was intercepted

^{Adria R Walker (The Guardian)}

#Palestine

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Apparently Israel singled him out and he was the only one so severely physically harmed.

Wonder why...

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They Saw Their Neighbors Taken Away by ICE. Then They Made a Plan.

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33893336

By Michelle Goldberg
July 30, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET

The widespread raids that have upended life in Los Angeles may soon spread to other cities, especially now that Republicans in Congress have increased ICE’s budget to $27.7 billion, up from about $8 billion. (That’s more than that of most militaries.) “We are a petri dish,” Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles told me. “They’re experimenting with us. If they come and make this stand in Los Angeles, then they can scare all the other cities, just like the universities have been scared, just like the legal firms have been scared.”
Yet if Los Angeles is a testing ground for mass deportation, it’s also a place to see how the resistance is evolving. Though there have been some big anti-Trump marches this year, many of those most horrified by this administration are looking for more immediate, tangible ways to thwart it. The movement against ICE in Los Angeles — one that is starting to take root, in different forms, in cities like New York — is part of a growing shift from symbolic protest to direct action.

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Peter Link

2025-07-30 12:59:56

They Saw Their Neighbors Taken Away by ICE. Then They Made a Plan.

By Michelle Goldberg
July 30, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET
The widespread raids that have upended life in Los Angeles may soon spread to other cities, especially now that Republicans in Congress have increased ICE’s budget to $27.7 billion, up from about $8 billion. (That’s more than that of most militaries.) “We are a petri dish,” Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles told me. “They’re experimenting with us. If they come and make this stand in Los Angeles, then they can scare all the other cities, just like the universities have been scared, just like the legal firms have been scared.”
Yet if Los Angeles is a testing ground for mass deportation, it’s also a place to see how the resistance is evolving. Though there have been some big anti-Trump marches this year, many of those most horrified by this administration are looking for more immediate, tangible ways to thwart it. The movement against ICE in Los Angeles — one that is starting to take root, in different forms, in cities like New York — is part of a growing shift from symbolic protest to direct action.

archive.ph/91twe

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/30/opinion/ice-immigration-protest-resistance.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU8.UpOG.sxZOVrT_AdPs

#politics

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They Saw Their Neighbors Taken Away by ICE. Then They Made a Plan.

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/33893336

By Michelle Goldberg
July 30, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET

The widespread raids that have upended life in Los Angeles may soon spread to other cities, especially now that Republicans in Congress have increased ICE’s budget to $27.7 billion, up from about $8 billion. (That’s more than that of most militaries.) “We are a petri dish,” Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles told me. “They’re experimenting with us. If they come and make this stand in Los Angeles, then they can scare all the other cities, just like the universities have been scared, just like the legal firms have been scared.”
Yet if Los Angeles is a testing ground for mass deportation, it’s also a place to see how the resistance is evolving. Though there have been some big anti-Trump marches this year, many of those most horrified by this administration are looking for more immediate, tangible ways to thwart it. The movement against ICE in Los Angeles — one that is starting to take root, in different forms, in cities like New York — is part of a growing shift from symbolic protest to direct action.

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Peter Link

2025-07-30 12:59:56

They Saw Their Neighbors Taken Away by ICE. Then They Made a Plan.

By Michelle Goldberg
July 30, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET
The widespread raids that have upended life in Los Angeles may soon spread to other cities, especially now that Republicans in Congress have increased ICE’s budget to $27.7 billion, up from about $8 billion. (That’s more than that of most militaries.) “We are a petri dish,” Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles told me. “They’re experimenting with us. If they come and make this stand in Los Angeles, then they can scare all the other cities, just like the universities have been scared, just like the legal firms have been scared.”
Yet if Los Angeles is a testing ground for mass deportation, it’s also a place to see how the resistance is evolving. Though there have been some big anti-Trump marches this year, many of those most horrified by this administration are looking for more immediate, tangible ways to thwart it. The movement against ICE in Los Angeles — one that is starting to take root, in different forms, in cities like New York — is part of a growing shift from symbolic protest to direct action.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/30/opinion/ice-immigration-protest-resistance.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU8.UpOG.sxZOVrT_AdPs

#USA

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They Saw Their Neighbors Taken Away by ICE. Then They Made a Plan.

By Michelle Goldberg
July 30, 2025, 5:01 a.m. ET

The widespread raids that have upended life in Los Angeles may soon spread to other cities, especially now that Republicans in Congress have increased ICE’s budget to $27.7 billion, up from about $8 billion. (That’s more than that of most militaries.) “We are a petri dish,” Mayor Karen Bass of Los Angeles told me. “They’re experimenting with us. If they come and make this stand in Los Angeles, then they can scare all the other cities, just like the universities have been scared, just like the legal firms have been scared.”
Yet if Los Angeles is a testing ground for mass deportation, it’s also a place to see how the resistance is evolving. Though there have been some big anti-Trump marches this year, many of those most horrified by this administration are looking for more immediate, tangible ways to thwart it. The movement against ICE in Los Angeles — one that is starting to take root, in different forms, in cities like New York — is part of a growing shift from symbolic protest to direct action.

archive.ph/91twe

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/30/opinion/ice-immigration-protest-resistance.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU8.UpOG.sxZOVrT_AdPs

#USA

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US wakes up from REM sleep but China’s rare earth grip tightens

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US wakes up from REM sleep but China’s rare earth grip tightens

Despite efforts to build domestic capacity, the US is turning to China for critical rare earth minerals — essential for electric vehicles, electronics, and national defence — as part of a new trade framework.

^{Djoomart Otorbaev (TRT Global)}

#Worldnews

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ via Palestine

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An independent public inquiry into UK involvement in Israeli military operations in Gaza

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2025-06-04/debates/30BC4F6C-5B9E-4BA4-AD5C-E03DD2384251/Gaza(IndependentPublicInquiry)

#Palestine

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Mounting Pressure in the Tintina Fault Could Mean Dangerous Earthquakes

Learn about the Tintina fault, which has been stirring for thousands of years and may hit the Yukon Territory with a major earthquake in the future.

^{Jack Knudson (Discover Magazine)}

#science

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Radioactive wasps found at South Carolina nuclear facility

https://www.wyff4.com/article/radioactive-wasps-found-south-carolina-nuclear-facility/65545710

#USA

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Cosmic Horror

#funny

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twikz via Privacy

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twikz
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Samsung → iPhone: Need Your De-Google Tips

Note: I prefer Apple over Google and I’m not ready to go full privacy-hardened, I want to find a balance between convenience and privacy protection.

So I'm moving from Samsung to iPhone soon, mainly because I despise Google.
Want to cut Google out as much as possible while I'm at it.

What I'm planning so far:

Mailbox.org instead of Gmail
DuckDuckGo for search, would prefer something even better
Safari with all the privacy stuff turned on

Where I'm stuck:

What about YouTube? Just use the web version?
Google Drive alternatives that actually work well?
Best way to store photos that aren't big greedy corps?

Questions:
- Any must-have privacy apps once I get the iPhone?

Settings I should change immediately out of the box?
Services I'm forgetting that are probably feeding Google my data?

#privacy

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unfinished | 🇵🇸

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I like Grayjay for YouTube and also other video platforms

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twikz

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My prefered is Youtubed Revanced

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ via Share Funny Videos, Images, Memes, Quotes and more

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Dog's mind vs cat's mind

#funny

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Tsunami waves hit Hawaii after massive earthquake strikes Russia

Millions return home as tsunami warnings lifted: Live updates

Tsunami warnings in Hawaii, parts of California and Japan downgraded

^{Alisha Rahaman Sarkar (The Independent)}

#USA

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India and Israel meet to deepen military ties in sign of solidarity amid Gaza atrocities

India and Israeli military officials have pledged to deepen and strengthen military ties even as images of Israel's engineered starvation of Palestinians continue to send shockwaves around the world.

^{Azad Essa (Middle East Eye)}

#Worldnews

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Samsuma

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alt headline: KKKrakers cosplaying as indigenous and the most subservient, most parasocial Uncle Toms (that refuse to shake off their past shackles) shake hands over their shared visceral passion for genocide on Muslims and Arabs.

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Devolution

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Get it right. Indians are “pick mes”, not Uncle Toms. Uncle Tom is a special classification solely for traitors like Candace Owens and Clarence Thomas.

And as for the Israeli Jews, they literally cannot defend themselves now when the racists come out and say Jews are running everything and use that to attack them.

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Total credit card debt having just hit a record $1.1 trillion, up $363B since 2021. That's $7.3B a month. Buy Now, Pay Later schemes, projected at $117B this year, aren’t even counted.

Consumer Loans: Credit Cards and Other Revolving Plans, All Commercial Banks

^{fred.stlouisfed.org}

#USA

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limer

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This is an indicator of people becoming poorer

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

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Exactly, people are going into debt cause wages aren't keeping up with inflation.

Karna via Linux

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Euphonica is a Rust-Powered MPD Client Heavy on Bling

Euphonica is a new Rust-based MPD frontend for Linux desktops, with 'bling' as a key feature. I showcase its design, features, and current development status.

^{Joey Sneddon (OMG! Ubuntu!)}

#linux

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perhapssex

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I love mpd, I was a longtime ncmpcpp user, the only thing I didn't like was no synced lyrics, then I discovered rmpc and it's game over, totally customizable, fast and has all the features to compete even with gui clients

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Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago staff role

On Tuesday, a reporter asked Trump: “The workers that were taken from you – were some of them young women?”

Trump replied: “The answer is yes, they were. People that worked in the spa.”

Another reporter then asked Trump if one of the people he was referring to was Giuffre, one of Epstein’s most prominent accusers who said in a lawsuit that she was hired away from the Mar-a-Lago spa by Epstein’s accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell in 2000, when she was 16.

Giuffre, who died this year, alleged in her complaint that she was first abused by Epstein and Maxwell together, and then “lent out to other powerful men”, including Prince Andrew.

“I think she worked at the spa,” Trump replied. “I think so. I think that was one of the people, yeah. He stole her. And by the way, she had no complaints about us, as you know. None whatsoever.”

Trump says Epstein ‘stole’ Virginia Giuffre from Mar-a-Lago staff role

President says pair fell out because Epstein poached staffers, including Epstein accuser who died in April

^{Robert Mackey (The Guardian)}

#USA

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Tsunami updates live: waves of 1m above tide level seen in California; Hawaii evacuation order lifted

Tsunami waves of 1.6 ft above tide level observed in Arena Cove, California - US Weather Service

Tsunami waves of 1.6 ft (0.5 metres) above tide level have been observed in Arena Cove in the US state of California, the US National Weather Service has said.

It said that the tsunami warning remains in effect for the coastal areas of California from Cape Mendocino, California, to the Oregon/California border.

Easter and Galápagos Islands evacuate coastal areas as warnings rattle Pacific – as it happened

This blog is now closed

^{Helen Livingstone (The Guardian)}

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YouTube most popular first TV destination for children, Ofcom finds

Children are now heading to YouTube from the moment they turn on the television, in the latest sign of the video platform’s migration from the laptop to the living room.

YouTube is the most popular first TV destination for generation Alpha, according to a comprehensive survey of the UK’s viewing habits by Ofcom, the communications regulator.

One in five young TV viewers aged from four to 15 turned straight to the platform last year. The survey showed Netflix close behind. While BBC One was in the top five first destinations, children were just as likely to choose BBC iPlayer.

YouTube most popular first TV destination for children, Ofcom finds

One in five young viewers go to platform first when they turn on TV, as older people also watch more of its content

^{Michael Savage (The Guardian)}

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EU fails to agree Israeli suspension from research fund over Gaza

A European Commission proposal to deny Israel partial access to the EU's €95 billion Horizon Europe research fund failed to garner the necessary qualified majority support when EU ambassadors met in Brussels on Tuesday to discuss the issue.

Both Germany and Italy said they needed more time and would let the EU know if they come to a different position in the coming weeks, according to two sources familiar.

The Netherlands, Ireland, France, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Portugal, Malta and Spain all supported the Commission's plan with several saying they would also push the EU for stronger sanctions, potentially in trade, the sources said.

The Commission's motion to suspend Israel's participation in Horizon is in response to an EU report finding the country had breached human rights obligations in the EU-Israel Association Agreement.

EU fails to agree Israeli suspension from research fund over Gaza

EU member states could not rally the support necessary to suspend Israel from the Horizon Europe fund in response to the war in Gaza. The proposal needed a qualified majority of member states to pass it.

^{Shona Murray (Euronews.com)}

#europe

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EU fails to agree Israeli suspension from research fund over Gaza

Both Germany and Italy said they needed more time and would let the EU know if they come to a different position in the coming weeks, according to two sources familiar.

The Commission's motion to suspend Israel's participation in Horizon is in response to an EU report finding the country had breached human rights obligations in the EU-Israel Association Agreement.

EU fails to agree Israeli suspension from research fund over Gaza

EU member states could not rally the support necessary to suspend Israel from the Horizon Europe fund in response to the war in Gaza. The proposal needed a qualified majority of member states to pass it.

^{Shona Murray (Euronews.com)}

#Worldnews

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atk007

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Yeah EU (specifically Germany) is hell bent on allowing Israel to continue it's Genocide, at least to a level that allows them to ease their Holocaust guilt.

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geneva_convenience

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"The Palestinians need to die for our sins" - Germans.

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Samsuma

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The Germans have never felt a shred of guilt over the Holocaust and Lebensraum. They only made up justifications, like their "guilt pride" stuff, as they moved along to fund, aid, abett and get directly involved in the 80+ years settler-colony over Indigenous people.

Once they and their European contemporaries were happy with their white-to-juden population ratio, they simply transferred over their internal policy to foreign policy.

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kreskin

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Disagreements over Zionist war crimes are tearing the entire world apart.

geneva_convenience via Progressive Politics

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Bob Vylan calls out the media spin

#progressivepolitics

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qarbone

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It feels morbid to say but I think it's because the genocide is almost complete, so now they can just claim "they were a moment too late." So they can feign morality without having to attempt to enact it.

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geneva_convenience

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Might also be because they feel their credibility was dropping too low.

TheGuardian is a great example of a newspaper which did a complete 180 from spewing every Israeli propaganda possible, going as far as using their reputation to back up Israeli lies, to suddenly questioning Israeli claims a few months ago and quoting Palestinians and human rights organizations.

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Liberals: its ok as long as the west does it! 😁

#memes

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bodaciousFern

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Calling out Western Imperialism is fair game, but I find it hard to believe that the Ukranian "Occupying Nazi Regime" is of any power or relevance when their openly Jewish president A.) won the election with 73% of the vote and B.) remains alive and well despite a neighboring superpower country actively trying to kill him for over 3 years

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cpo

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True both. Idolizing the "denazification" by OP is just not logical. I think a couple of years after the "three day op" this excuses has worn out already.

OP is just another Russian peasant trying to make a bucket or two.

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freagle

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You think somehow being Jewish means you're not a Nazi? You should really read history.

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ComradeSharkfucker

in reply to jackeroni • 1 mese fa • •

Man, you and I both know Russia is not there to kill Nazis. Yeah there are Nazis in Ukraine but this is not a materialist understanding of the conflict and you know it. Ukrainian Nazis did not pose an existential threat to Russia. Russia attacked Ukraine because it saw NATO expansion in the region as a threat. It labeled this as a redline numerous times. The Nazi thing is convenient but liberals don't even like fighting nazis. You aren't going to convince anyone of anything like this. Why agitate in this way? What is the point?

I see your posts often and they have always perplexed me. Why use RT as a source on this conflict? Yeah it shows the other side of the war but just like western news on this issue it too is an arm of propaganda. I just can't see you changing any minds or naturally fostering a materialist understanding in this manner

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jackeroni

in reply to ComradeSharkfucker • 1 mese fa • •

You can have multiple reasons. NATO = Nazi Adolf Terrorist Obersturmfuhrer, a nazi regime supporting the expansion of a nazi organization. End result is the same, dead nazis

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TheBeege

in reply to jackeroni • 1 mese fa • •

You really think people will buy this nonsense? You can make any acronym mean anything.

Focus on the nazis and authoritarians in your own damn country.

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freagle

in reply to TheBeege • 1 mese fa • •

The Nazis in the US were here before WW2. After WW2, the US grabbed a bunch of German Nazis, in collaboration with the Vatican, and saved their lives by distributing them all over the world, including many in the US, giving them new identities, jobs in industry and government, and generally protecting them from justice while integrating them into the empire.

But NATO? When NATO was formed it was staffed top to bottom with Nazi officers. Just look up all the generals in early NATO and look at their positions before NATO. NATO was run by Nazis at the request of the US. And then they planned, approved, and executed Operation Gladio wherein NATO connected with every single Nazi collaborator group in Europe that helped the Third Reich and organized them, trained them, armed them, and helped them avoid detection.

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