if you use GrapheneOS on a pixel device, is it something you'd recommend for a privacy worried user? How seamless is running it after install?
I own 2 bloated proprietary devices and don't use them for anything important, like banking or dealing with authorities. I also don't trust the manufactures not selling my data.
Id like to have a working device with no bloatware and completely degoogled. Ironically I'd have to buy something made by google to run GrapheneOS on it. Intended use would be to use as a camera, to run CoMaps on it, pkpass files with foss-wallet, reading epubs, making phone calls and running one aurora app.
I don't need the device to play games, watch movies, show off or to play loud music, but I'd like a jack port for my headphones (I assume google headphones would cease to work if I degoogle the device, nor would I want to spend more than necessary enriching that data grabber even more.
Is there a pixel device with a jack port?
Are batteries inside pixel devices glued to the frame or can they be easy to change?
My main OS is debian. How easy is to transfer data from GrapheneOS to debian and the other way round?
Overall if you run GrapheneOS on a pixel, how many years running it and what do you think about it?
BELLY OF THE BEAST: Doctors without debt: U.S. medical students graduate in Cuba [weekly newsletter]
This week we look at a solidarity group bringing essential medicines to vulnerable communities in Havana. Also:
- Doctors without debt: U.S. medical students graduate in Cuba
- Radio TV Martí dodges DOGE
- Tourism in Cuba down 300,000 so far this year
- Fidel and Che (un)benched in Mexico
- Cuba’s prime minister acknowledges “mistakes”
- Inflation has hurt Cuban pockets more than official figures suggest
- Solar-powered, Chinese-backed flip-flop factory in East Havana
- Former Cuban diplomat calls out U.S. envoy’s PR stunts
Dharmasthala cops under fire for wiping off 15 years of unidentified deaths records
The Belthangady Police in Karnataka’s Dakshina Kannada district have come under sharp criticism after admitting to destroying key records of unidentified death cases registered between 2000 and 2015 — a timeframe that overlaps almost entirely with the period during which a whistleblower has alleged mass burials took place in Dharmasthala, a temple town located within the same taluk.
The erasure of these records has triggered deep concern, as the whistleblower claims that between 1998 and 2014, he was forced to bury and cremate the bodies of women and minors, many of whom, he alleges, bore signs of sexual assault.
Dharmasthala cops under fire for wiping off 15 years of unidentified deaths records
Even as the mass burial investigation in Dharmasthala continues Belthangady Police admit to destroying years of unidentified death records raising serious concerns about accountability digitisation and public interestSagay Raj (India Today)
Larry Johnson: Russia Holds All the Cards in Ukrainian Conflict
Larry Johnson: Russia Holds All the Cards in Ukrainian Conflict
Russia is willing to negotiate but the West displays a lack of “genuine interest” in reaching a peaceful settlement in the Ukrainian conflict, former CIA officer Larry Johnson tells Sputnik while commenting on the latest remarks by Russian President …Sputnik International
First Australian-made rocket crashes shortly after lift-off
bbc.com/news/videos/cz93xzv3nj…
The first orbital rocket made and designed in Australia crashed 14 seconds after lift-off during its first test launch.
Videos show the Eris rocket, launched by Gilmour Space Technologies, lifting off the ground before losing momentum and crashing.
First Australian-made rocket crashes shortly after lift off
The company behind the country's first orbital rocket called the launch a 'giant leap' despite crashing after only 14 seconds.www.bbc.com
Dozens of countries scramble to cope with latest wave of Trump trade tariffs
Leaders of more than 60 countries have been plunged into a fresh race to secure trade deals with the US after Donald Trump unleashed global chaos with sweeping new tariff rates.
Trump’s latest blitz triggered a wave of market jitters and fears for jobs in some of the poorest countries, as tariff rates were signed off ranging from 50% to 10%.
There was a minor reprieve that opened the door to further negotiations, after the White House said the updated tariffs would take effect on 7 August, not on Friday, the deadline previously set by Trump.
The new rates, which Trump sees as benefiting US exporters, create uncertainty for dozens of countries, including longtime US allies. They have also raised fears of inflation in the US.
Rates were set at 25% for India’s US-bound exports, 20% for Taiwan and 30% for South Africa. Switzerland faces a rate of 39%. The deadline for a tariff deal with Mexico was extended by another 90 days.
Dozens of countries scramble to cope with latest wave of Trump trade tariffs
Markets tumble as US president unleashes global chaos with rates from 10- to 50% due to take effect next weekLisa O’Carroll (The Guardian)
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Trump orders two nuclear subs moved near Russia after Medvedev spat
US President Donald Trump said on Friday that he's ordering the repositioning of two US nuclear submarines close to Russia "based on the highly provocative statements" of the country's former president Dmitry Medvedev.
Trump posted on his social media platform Truth Social that he had "ordered two Nuclear Submarines to be positioned in the appropriate regions, just in case these foolish and inflammatory statements are more than just that."
The president added, "Words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences, I hope this will not be one of those instances." The deployment comes after Medvedev warned Trump on Thursday to remember that Moscow had Soviet-era nuclear strike capabilities of last resort.
Trump orders two 'nuclear submarines' moved near Russia after Medvedev warning
In a social media post, Trump said the deployment was in response to threats from the country’s former President Dmitry Medvedev.Gavin Blackburn (Euronews.com)
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The president added, "Words are very important, and can often lead to unintended consequences..."
The president who rambles incoherently and whose staff have frequently posted Nazi dog whistles in his name says words are important.
Donald Trump to fire US labour statistics boss after weak jobs report
Trump said on his Truth Social platform on Friday that he had told his team to fire Erika McEntarfer, the Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, who was nominated by Joe Biden in 2023 and began her role in January 2024.
“I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY,” the president wrote.
“She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes,” Trump said, claiming without evidence that McEntarfer had massaged figures to help the former president.
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Donald Trump to fire US labour statistics boss after weak jobs report
Trump said on his Truth Social platform on Friday that he had told his team to fire Erika McEntarfer, the Commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, who was nominated by Joe Biden in 2023 and began her role in January 2024.
“I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY,” the president wrote.
“She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes,” Trump said, claiming without evidence that McEntarfer had massaged figures to help the former president.
New Russian Jet Drone Mimics Cruise Missile—and It’s Already Hitting Ukrainian Cities
New Russian Jet Drone Mimics Cruise Missile—and It’s Already Hitting Ukrainian Cities
Recent reports indicate Russia's intensified use of jet-powered drones, raising challenges for Ukrainian air defenses amid ongoing military operations.Vlad Litnarovych (UNITED24 Media)
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Back in the first world war anarchists were divided on what side to take, with Kropotkin among others signing on to a manifesto advocating for anarchists to support the allied victory over the central powers. There were anarchists opposed to the war who published a counter manifesto that still seems applicable today:
The misfortune of the peoples, who were nevertheless all deeply committed to peace, is that they trusted in the State with its scheming diplomats, in democracy and in the political parties (even the opposition parties, like the parliamentary socialists) to avert war. That trust was deliberately abused and continues to be abused when those in government, with the help of their whole press, persuade their respective peoples that this war is a war of liberation.
The Anarchist International: Anti-War Manifesto (1915)
Errico Malatesta: Between Peasants (1884)www.marxists.org
Games no longer launching with same gamescope command
Cross-posted from "Games no longer launching with same gamescope command" by @Blxter@lemmy.zip in !linux_gaming@lemmy.world
My normal command is
gamescope -f -W 2560 -H 1440 -r 144 --force-grab-cursor --mangoapp -- %command%
and games would work just fine. as of yesterday or so games would no longer launch no matter the game. If I remove gamescope it launches fine. I would Like to keep using gamescope but I did some research and apparently there used to be problems with NVIDIA and gamescope. I have used gamescope for many many games with no issues till now
I originally tried on my Endeavour OS install that I have been using for some time but then since I have been meaning to try out cachyos I then tried same thing there and it still does not work with gamescope. I have looked through the proton logs but if im being honest no idea what im looking for. Any help would be appreciated 😀
- GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080
- NVIDIA driver 575.64.05
- OS: CachyOS x86_64
Edit: pastebin for steam + games
pastebin.com/4Rs7mHhi
opening Mass effect
pastebin.com/0NuUr6qd
Russia-US substantive discussion of Ukrainian issues yields results — Lavrov
Russia-US substantive discussion of Ukrainian issues yields results — Lavrov
"It is thanks to President Donald Trump's insistence that the Kiev regime agreed to our proposal to resume the Istanbul talks," the Russian foreign minister saidTASS
It's said that every sign exists because multiple people were too stupid for it to remain absent.
So exactly how many people tried to eat the pizza without opening the box first?
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So exactly how many people tried to eat the pizza without opening the box first?
Probably just one, but they sued the pizzeria afterwards about it.
IMF raises China’s GDP outlook more than any other economy after strong first-half data
IMF raises China’s GDP outlook more than any other economy after strong first-half data
While trade shock could be less severe than initially feared, evidence is mounting that it is hurting the global economy, IMF’s chief economist says.Xinyi Wu (South China Morning Post)
Kamala Harris says she doesn’t plan to return to ‘broken’ system of US politics
Kamala Harris has said that she currently has no desire to re-enter “the system” of American politics because it is “broken”.
On Thursday night the Democratic party’s defeated presidential nominee, who replaced Joe Biden late in the 2024 campaign after he dropped his re-election bid, gave her first interview since losing the election to Donald Trump, talking to Stephen Colbert on The Late Show.
After she announced she will not run for the governorship of California just a day earlier, Harris told the TV show that it was about something more “basic” than whether she wanted to run for something else instead – with the subtext being whether she will attempt a White House run again in 2028.
Kamala Harris says she doesn’t plan to return to ‘broken’ system of US politics
Former vice-president talked to Colbert in first interview since election, after declining bid for California governorEd Pilkington (The Guardian)
DSA used the phrase knowing very well what it means and knowing what they support
Bruh...
You keep saying DSA, when it's a very very small chapter for the "Twin cities" which is a single metro area.
I don't know if I'm doing a poor job of explaining the difference between the two or what.
But you are taking:
Phrase used by extremists
And insisting it means:
Only extremists ever say this
I'm sorry I can't help you with this, I legitimately thought that last reply had a chance tho.
Stop resisting
[happy character pointing at a painting of a french resistance fighter holding a molotov cocktail]
Freedom fighters!
Those people were heroes for fighting against oppression
[angry character shoving their smartphone in our face with a picture of a palestinian holding a rock]
Evil terrorists!
Those people are monsters for fighting against oppression
Here another helpful solution for people who want to evaluate and compare different Linux distributions: GNOME Boxes, a software to easily create virtual machines
.... virtual machines where you only have to select which accompanying image of Arch / Tumbleweed / Ubuntu / Fedora you want to try.
In addition, the combination of a very stable base system (say, Debian or SuSE Leap) with a fast-moving, bleeading edge virtualized system (say, SuSE Tumbleweed, Arch or Guix) on top can be surprisingly useful. And because small virtual machines, when not running, are nothing else than files on your computer, you can have many versions of them, alter things, try stuff out, then delete it and go back to the tidy original state.
Boxes – Apps for GNOME
Virtualization made simple – Select an operating system and let Boxes download and install it for you in a virtual machine. Features: Download freely available operating systemsAutomatically install CentOS Str...apps.gnome.org
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Russia's Jet Powered Shahed Kamikaze Drone Is A Big Problem For Ukraine
Russia's Jet Powered Shahed Kamikaze Drone Is A Big Problem For Ukraine
The altitude and speed at which the drones fly makes them far more difficult to shoot down, requiring increasingly scarce higher-performance SAMs.Howard Altman (The War Zone)
US employers slash hiring as Trump advances a punishing trade agenda
WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. hiring is slowing sharply as President Donald Trump’s erratic and radical trade policies paralyze businesses and raise doubts about the outlook for the world’s largest economy.
U.S. employers added just 73,000 jobs last month, the Labor Department reported Friday, well short of the 115,000 expected.
Worse, revisions shaved a stunning 258,000 jobs off May and June payrolls. And the unemployment rate ticked higher to 4.2% as Americans dropped out of the labor force and the ranks of the unemployed rose by 221,000.
Banned for reporting antisemitism
A user on lemmy.world/c/aboringdystopia stated that Jews should be ashamed of themselves for the actions of Israel.
I rhetorically responded "Why?" and reported the antisemitic comment.
Reporting them was deemed "Trolling" by the moderator, who believes there is nothing wrong with shaming all Jews for the actions of Israel because some Jews state they are ashamed of it themselves.
I explained the moderator why the comment was antisemitic. In a twist of events, they then permabanned me, deleted all my posts from the comunity and told me I would feel more at home at .ml.
PTB, BPR, and even worse than that: censorious enforcement of groupthink (for banning you).
BUT: others are correct to point out that it was wrong of you to report antisemitism in this particular case. The comment in question was certainly a bit iffy, but in a lawyerly sense it's on the right side of the line.
After thinking the comment through I've not been able to come to any conclusion except it implying that Jews should feel ashamed for the actions of Israel.
A commenter below tried to explain it to me by comparing it to Germans in Nazi Germany... which that basically proves my point of them believing that Jews are responsible for the actions of Israe, by comparing Jews to Germans in Nazi Germany instead of Israelis/Zionists..
Even the people who tried to debunk it inadvertedly ended up proving my point.
Google has just two weeks to begin cracking open Android, it admits in emergency filing
Google has just two weeks to begin cracking open Android, it admits in emergency filing
Google is fighting back against Epic’s big win that could change the Play Store forever.Sean Hollister (The Verge)
American Nurse Who Tried to Save “No Other Land” Activist Was Detained and Deported by Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34010316
Sanya Mansoor
August 1 2025, 12:06 p.m.
After Israeli settler Yinon Levi allegedly shot and killed Hathaleen on Monday in Umm al-Khair, a village in the occupied West Bank, the critical care nurse gave Hathaleen four rounds of CPR. She cradled his head in her hands, checking his pulse and whispering “You’re OK,” as he bled out, the nurse told The Intercept. The medical worker asked not to be named because they fear for their safety. Hathaleen was then taken away in an ambulance, where he died before reaching the hospital.About 20 feet away, and minutes before Hathaleen was shot, another Israeli settler in an excavator tried to destroy the village’s main water pipe, according to media reports. A local man named Ahmad, Awdah’s cousin, was struck in the head with the excavator’s arm and nearly knocked unconscious after he tried to stop the driver.
Turning to Ahmad after Hathaleen was taken away, the nurse administered a neurological exam; he was severely concussed with diminished mental function before he too was taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
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American Nurse Who Tried to Save “No Other Land” Activist Was Detained and Deported by Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34010316
Sanya Mansoor
August 1 2025, 12:06 p.m.
After Israeli settler Yinon Levi allegedly shot and killed Hathaleen on Monday in Umm al-Khair, a village in the occupied West Bank, the critical care nurse gave Hathaleen four rounds of CPR. She cradled his head in her hands, checking his pulse and whispering “You’re OK,” as he bled out, the nurse told The Intercept. The medical worker asked not to be named because they fear for their safety. Hathaleen was then taken away in an ambulance, where he died before reaching the hospital.About 20 feet away, and minutes before Hathaleen was shot, another Israeli settler in an excavator tried to destroy the village’s main water pipe, according to media reports. A local man named Ahmad, Awdah’s cousin, was struck in the head with the excavator’s arm and nearly knocked unconscious after he tried to stop the driver.
Turning to Ahmad after Hathaleen was taken away, the nurse administered a neurological exam; he was severely concussed with diminished mental function before he too was taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
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American Nurse Who Tried to Save “No Other Land” Activist Was Detained and Deported by Israel
Sanya Mansoor
August 1 2025, 12:06 p.m.
After Israeli settler Yinon Levi allegedly shot and killed Hathaleen on Monday in Umm al-Khair, a village in the occupied West Bank, the critical care nurse gave Hathaleen four rounds of CPR. She cradled his head in her hands, checking his pulse and whispering “You’re OK,” as he bled out, the nurse told The Intercept. The medical worker asked not to be named because they fear for their safety. Hathaleen was then taken away in an ambulance, where he died before reaching the hospital.About 20 feet away, and minutes before Hathaleen was shot, another Israeli settler in an excavator tried to destroy the village’s main water pipe, according to media reports. A local man named Ahmad, Awdah’s cousin, was struck in the head with the excavator’s arm and nearly knocked unconscious after he tried to stop the driver.
Turning to Ahmad after Hathaleen was taken away, the nurse administered a neurological exam; he was severely concussed with diminished mental function before he too was taken to the hospital in an ambulance.
American Nurse Who Tried to Save “No Other Land” Activist Was Detained and Deported by Israel
Americans on the scene who tried to help Palestinians said Israel authorities detained, deported them — all as settler attackers roamed free.Sanya Mansoor (The Intercept)
The Killing of Awdah Hathaleen by a West Bank Settler
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34010282
Carolina Pedrazzi
Aug 01, 2025
On Thursday, more than seventy women from Umm al-Kheir—ranging from teenagers to the elderly—launched an open-ended hunger strike until Hathaleen’s body is returned by the Israeli police. The hunger strike is also in protest of the ongoing detention of several residents of the village, including Hathaleen’s brothers and cousins, following his murder.Hathaleen’s killing was just the latest violent attack on the Palestinian community in Masafer Yatta, a string of villages and hamlets in the south Hebron hills. For years, residents of Masafer Yatta have faced repeated attacks, expulsion orders, home demolitions, property destruction, harassment, arrests, and killings by Israeli soldiers and settlers. Their struggle to preserve their homes and land was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary, No Other Land, which Hathaleen helped make.
Hathaleen’s killing on Monday shone yet another spotlight on the wanton violence Palestinians face on a daily basis from Israeli settlers and soldiers, who operate with blanket impunity—both in Masafer Yatta, in particular, and the occupied West Bank, in general. Over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli soldiers and settlers in the West Bank since October 7, 2023.
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The Killing of Awdah Hathaleen by a West Bank Settler
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34010282
Carolina Pedrazzi
Aug 01, 2025
On Thursday, more than seventy women from Umm al-Kheir—ranging from teenagers to the elderly—launched an open-ended hunger strike until Hathaleen’s body is returned by the Israeli police. The hunger strike is also in protest of the ongoing detention of several residents of the village, including Hathaleen’s brothers and cousins, following his murder.Hathaleen’s killing was just the latest violent attack on the Palestinian community in Masafer Yatta, a string of villages and hamlets in the south Hebron hills. For years, residents of Masafer Yatta have faced repeated attacks, expulsion orders, home demolitions, property destruction, harassment, arrests, and killings by Israeli soldiers and settlers. Their struggle to preserve their homes and land was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary, No Other Land, which Hathaleen helped make.
Hathaleen’s killing on Monday shone yet another spotlight on the wanton violence Palestinians face on a daily basis from Israeli settlers and soldiers, who operate with blanket impunity—both in Masafer Yatta, in particular, and the occupied West Bank, in general. Over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli soldiers and settlers in the West Bank since October 7, 2023.
The Killing of Awdah Hathaleen by a West Bank Settler
Carolina Pedrazzi
Aug 01, 2025
On Thursday, more than seventy women from Umm al-Kheir—ranging from teenagers to the elderly—launched an open-ended hunger strike until Hathaleen’s body is returned by the Israeli police. The hunger strike is also in protest of the ongoing detention of several residents of the village, including Hathaleen’s brothers and cousins, following his murder.Hathaleen’s killing was just the latest violent attack on the Palestinian community in Masafer Yatta, a string of villages and hamlets in the south Hebron hills. For years, residents of Masafer Yatta have faced repeated attacks, expulsion orders, home demolitions, property destruction, harassment, arrests, and killings by Israeli soldiers and settlers. Their struggle to preserve their homes and land was the subject of the Oscar-winning documentary, No Other Land, which Hathaleen helped make.
Hathaleen’s killing on Monday shone yet another spotlight on the wanton violence Palestinians face on a daily basis from Israeli settlers and soldiers, who operate with blanket impunity—both in Masafer Yatta, in particular, and the occupied West Bank, in general. Over 1,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli soldiers and settlers in the West Bank since October 7, 2023.
The Killing of Awdah Hathaleen by a West Bank Settler
Israeli authorities are refusing to release the body of the beloved Palestinian activist while the Israeli settler who shot him walks free.Carolina Pedrazzi (Drop Site News)
US intelligence uses Microsoft Exchange zero-day vulnerabilities to attack Chinese military-industrial enterprise's email servers
US intelligence uses Microsoft Exchange zero-day vulnerabilities to attack Chinese military-industrial enterprise's email servers: report
The Cyber Security Association of China on Friday released details of two cases related to frequent cyberattacks and espionage by US intelligence agencies targeting China's key industries, issuing security alerts for critical sectors.www.globaltimes.cn
It's just insane how big of a dropped ball non-Western software development seems to be. If they're not going to write and use their own software for everything, then don't even bother using software! Even some outdated insecure system developed in the 80s would be better than using the latest US software for any kind of infrastructure.
I get why it's still an issue, because it's really hard to make an entire country of 1.4+ billion people all get on the same page about best practices on anything. Imagine getting American software developers to adopt stringent security practices. The last company I worked at we were still adopting TLS transport within the company VPN. So if there is a current push in the US to adopt modern security "hygiene" (security standards that the US created), then I can imagine how much harder it is for other countries. And there are a lot of things required to use the latest stuff. You have to have a good software development and release process so you can stay on top of security fixes. And that requires its own infrastructure. And that infrastructure requires its own infrastructure. And managing security-related stuff is a pain in the butt.
I often feel like server software is just a mistake in general and running software on devices other than personal computers should be kept to a minimum. Which is the opposite of how the software industry has developed. But maybe in the future, there will be some kind of acknowledgement and transition to more "local-first" software. Even free software enthusiasts fall into that trap because their expertise comes from the industry they work in which is all server-centric.
Email, for example, should be replaced with something more similar to Signal messaging system. More end-to-end encryption, etc. and most servers should act as simple routers or always-online caches of data in transit.
Servers are such a liability and the whole ecosystem is so messy and complicated. At least with desktop/phone programs it's a bit easier to reason about their security (in some ways).
Chinese uses Microsoft in their military??????????????????????
EDIT: It was a military-adjacent business, now that I read it more closely. Still really sloppy to use closed-source software developed by the only country that could threaten their military (without using nuclear weapons).
Putin questions legality of Ukrainian government
Putin questions legality of Ukrainian government
Vladimir Zelensky’s rule is unconstitutional, Putin said while meeting with his Belarusian counterpartRT
Leaflet
in reply to merompetehla • • •None that are still supported by GrapheneOS. But you can buy a USB-C to 3.5mm jack dongle.
Pretty easy, either by cable or using an app like LocalSend (they have an apk on their Github).
Haven't used it in a while. I think it was cool, but was definitely more of a hassle than regular Android. The default apps are pretty barebones and feel old. Though I do still dream about replacing my iPhone with a device with GrapheneOS.
Dr. Wesker
in reply to merompetehla • • •Pixel 5a 5G was the last Pixel that had an audio jack. I held onto mine forever, until Graphene stopped support for the model.
I upgraded to the 7a, and then bit the bullet and bought a separate DAP for music.
The biggest adjustment to using Graphene is often just having to finding open-source app solutions that don't require Google Play, assuming you don't want to run the sandbox. I found the process cathartic, personally.
GlenRambo
in reply to Dr. Wesker • • •If I'm running mostly f-droid apps, and play services is not installed (e.g. I cant run YT-Revanced as it needs gapps).
Then does that mean I should be able to move over to graphine without much issue?
What abkut the one or two apps uninstall throguh Aurora store, woild they work?
Dr. Wesker
in reply to GlenRambo • • •It'd likely be quite painless in your case, then.
Aurora store logged in anonymously works for me, for the couple apps I have no other choice on.
Chewy
in reply to merompetehla • • •Current Pixels sadly no longer have a headphone jack.
The Pixel 8as battery can be replaced through the back side, but the 8 & 8 Pro battery can only be replaced by removing the screen first. Idk about Pixel 9/10(a/Pro).
GrapheneOS is like any other Android for things like data transfer. Plug in via USB or your preferred wireless protocol.
SidewaysHighways
in reply to merompetehla • • •pixel is meh
GrapheneOS is fucking amazing
Peasley
in reply to SidewaysHighways • • •nagaram
in reply to merompetehla • • •I'm a week into using GrapheneOS and its been great. It is a little restrictive in that I seem to have to explicitly allow apps to run and apps like my Bank app or Spotify don't work.
However, most apps are just Web Apps at this point and I've noticed very little difference in the use of the app versus the pinned browser version.
I'm also trying to curb a phone addiction so Graphene + Lemmy + Mastodon + Jellyfin is all I'm using on this thing.
I'm using my Pixel Buds. They work just as well. Remember, its just a Bluetooth device just without all the QOL stuff like voice control.
I recommend trying it. Graphene OS install also has instruction ions to revert if you change your mind. And it's pretty easy. Maybe a touch harder than installing Linux generally, but if your dailying Debian, you're fine.
IcyToes
in reply to nagaram • • •Spotify works for me.
I do online banking through the browser if I need it.
nagaram
in reply to IcyToes • • •IcyToes
in reply to nagaram • • •Fair. I've considered the same myself.
I don't pay Spotify though. £10 a month is 12 albums per year at least. Can buy full catalogue. For cycling new music I ain't fully sold on when driving is fine though.
typhoon
in reply to nagaram • • •Novaling
in reply to typhoon • • •It really just depends on luck. You can check the GitHub list of banking apps reported to work or not. My credit card banking app (Discover) works but not my debit card bank (Navy Federal), and PayPal has a stroke and hates me. I tried using exploit compatibility mode.
According to some new reports, there might be hope to get other apps working, but overall it's not "plug and play" for all banking apps.
PayPal - Send, Shop, Manage
qcasey (GitHub)hellmo_luciferrari
in reply to merompetehla • • •I have used GrapheneOS on and off for 3 years or so.
I used to be on LineageOS with root. I did that so I could run a firewall, and have complete control over every aspect of my OS.
I tried GrapheneOS before they had ability for android auto. But lacking that, caused me to switch.
While my ultimate goal is to ditch big tech, Google, Microsoft, apple, etc I have to compromise a bit for some functionality.
That being said, having sandboxed Google Play has helped. Something I didn't have on LineageOS.
Getting data to and from Debian won't be an issue. Plug it in, and copy files to and from. Ezpz.
I use Arch BTW. And have had zero issues. So Linux compatability isn't an issue.
As far as getting a Pixel with a headphone jack, that
May be an issue. Security updates and software updates for a model with one may be an issue.
I have had GrapheneOS on a Pixel 7 Pro, and now an 8 Pro.
As much as I hate Google, I do like pixels. The 7 pro was miles better than my 8 pro.
I want to add, without Google play, you can still use Accrescent and Obtainium. While Accrescent is good, it has few apps. Obtanium you can pull from GitHub, F-Droid, Gitlab, and more and will check for updates.
I use both.
Ulrich
in reply to merompetehla • • •Absolutely
They'll work perfectly.
No.
They are glued, like all modern devices.
Very easy with KDEConnect/GSConnect.
About 4 years. I like everything about it. The only thing I don't like is that it can't solve problems inherent in Google's monopoly. So some Google Play apps will not work and notifications won't work without Google's proprietary Google Play Services or one of the super rare apps that support unifiedpush. The vast majority of developers don't publish their apps outside of the Play Store, and almost none of them support anything other than Google's FCM for notifications. Google Pay simply won't work at all.
caseyweederman
in reply to Ulrich • • •JustEnoughDucks
in reply to caseyweederman • • •It is
However, for file transfer, LocalSend is a smoother UX and supports almost any device for transfer. It won me over from KDE connect because I can transfer things with different phones, friends' comuters when they are here, work computer in rare cases with a portable install and no need to bond anything.
Peasley
in reply to merompetehla • • •About 2 years for me. It's a better experience than vanilla Android except that tap to pay doesnt work.
Other than that one downside it's been nothing but an improvement. so much more control over what apps can access, and what Google services to use (if any). Google services are treated like any other app, and can therefore be easily sandboxed.
If you have a compatible device i highly recommend GrapheneOS. I'm pretty unhappy with the build quality and camera on my Pixel (7 Pro), but that was all the same on Android.
I really wish GrapheneOS supported another brand of device. Pixels are way overpriced for how cheaply put together they are, but i'd rather have a meh phone with real security than a nice one with just security theater
It works great with Linux for me, i expect Debian will have no issues
bigfondue
in reply to Peasley • • •yoevli
in reply to merompetehla • • •It's overall a pretty good experience, but there's occasional weirdness you may run into. For instance, up until a month or two ago I was encountering a bug that caused my phone to basically slow to a crawl after running Android Auto for 20 minutes or so, with a reboot being the only solution. This happened once while I was driving somewhere unfamiliar and it took about 5 minutes to start back up due to app optimization (which, incidentally, I don't remember being a thing on other Android flavors after 2018 or so) so it turned into a whole adventure.
There's also a fairly persistent issue I've run into where GrapheneOS starts very aggressively killing background apps, like as soon as another app gains focus. Not sure what that's about but I haven't really encountered it on other Android versions to the same extent, so I'm inclined to think it's GOS-specific.
extremeboredom
in reply to yoevli • • •yoevli
in reply to extremeboredom • • •communism
in reply to merompetehla • • •(you may want to post this to !privacy@lemmy.ml or a similar community... I suppose GOS uses the Linux kernel technically but I think this community is for desktop Linux lol)
GOS is really nice. It's very seamless and user-friendly, whilst still being very unbloated and minimal. You still have everything you'd expect to have on a phone but the environment is nicely minimal and lets you only install the software you want.
I've been using GOS as my exclusive mobile OS for many years, never had any technical problems with it.
You can use bluetooth headphones or usb-c headphones. Including the bluetooth headphones google sells. Afaik they are still just bluetooth headphones.
Easy: wiki.archlinux.org/title/Media…
Media Transfer Protocol - ArchWiki
wiki.archlinux.orgmitrosus
in reply to communism • • •Novaling
in reply to mitrosus • • •GrapheneOS usage guide
GrapheneOSmitrosus
in reply to Novaling • • •Thanks for reply. Camera is the only issue for me.
So you are saying gos camera is already good enough but I can download "pixel camera" app to get all the features of stock pixel camera? Including magic eraser, unblur etc?
Btw, I get your suggestion on disabling WiFi. I'd like to do that for some apps in stock as well. But there seems to be option only to disabled mobile data usage, not WiFi. Does GOS give me option to disable any internet access for any app?
Help would be appreciated 👍
Novaling
in reply to mitrosus • • •Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's how it works, I think I downloaded it once just to try the camera-translate feature.
Yup, %100 sure about that one. You'd have to root your phone on stock to be able to disable Wifi for an app, but GOS lets you do it easily with a simple permission toggle. I do this for Gboard, as I like using it but don't want Google to be in my business.
mitrosus
in reply to Novaling • • •Novaling
in reply to mitrosus • • •Do note, RCS can be a bit of a bitch (might have to disconnect your old phone from your number, read the RCS forum thread if you have issues), some banking apps don't work (really just depends), and you can no longer use Google Wallet/Tap-to-pay (but maybe that's a privacy positive). These are the only major issues that might hold you back.
Otherwise, use GOS installer on their website (use a Chromium browser! FF breaks it) for the easiest ROM of your life.
mitrosus
in reply to Novaling • • •Did not even know what RCS is. I would bother the least with this "service".
And I am aware of the banking apps, this is one reason why I don't use their "apps". Internet banking in web browser is the way.
And my country is so aloof from the civilisation that wallet/tap whatever are not even allowed. Blissfully ignorant.
Novaling
in reply to mitrosus • • •Cool on not needing the others 👍
But RCS is a standard and recommended to use, for both QoL, but also security. SMS is less secure and means chats with family aren't E2EE. So unless you use some sort of other communication method like the Signal app, WhatsApp (w/ E2EE enabled), Threema, Matrix, etc. your chats aren't secure. Privacy is a whole separate question, and depends on your provider (i.e. Whatsapp is owned by Meta, which is the worst company for privacy.)
Please use RCS, or some form of E2EE
RCS messaging: What is it and how does it compare to iMessage?
Robert Triggs (Android Authority)mitrosus
in reply to Novaling • • •ozymandias117
in reply to mitrosus • • •You can get them off Aurora Store if you don't want to install Google Services.
Yes, GOS adds the ability to completely disable network access to apps.
For magic eraser, that's a separate app from Google.
Pixel Camera does night mode, editing tools are in Google Photos
mitrosus
in reply to ozymandias117 • • •communism
in reply to mitrosus • • •Verax
in reply to merompetehla • • •Cognitive0780
in reply to Verax • • •Melmi
in reply to Verax • • •rumba
in reply to Melmi • • •Most run now, but it's pretty clear it's a matter of time till they won't.
Google is pushing hard for integrity check. They're about two steps away from stopping modified YouTube apps.
nfreak
in reply to merompetehla • • •I switched to it this past winter, same time I moved from Windows to CachyOS on my desktop, and I haven't looked back on either device since.
Debloats the hell out of the thing, and personally I love how deeply documented everything is. Reasons and justifications are given for every design decision, but it's also not an extremely opinionated ecosystem - if you need a google app or w/e for any reason, the option is there. there are some limitations like the integrity API dogshit, but for the most part, it's a near flawless experience.
WhosMansIsThis
in reply to merompetehla • • •Arondeus
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in reply to merompetehla • • •hankthetankie [none/use name]
in reply to merompetehla • • •I have done a lot of pixel repairs and GOS installations . Pixels are glued shut. It is repairable but it is quite sure to say that the screen will break if removed , it's kind of like removing two eggshells glued together. Requires a lot of patience and luck to do it without breaking it.
Once in it's not harder than any other phone. That said my own has a a 40 euro case to avoid the issues of repairs, I recommend that. Screens are 100 + euros nowadays. So repairs is rarely worth it. Depends on the price you can get the parts for it.
Batteries can be replaced but takes some work and hot air gun to remove glue.
For GOS yeah that's what you want it's the best. And I do everything from debian distros.
Don't use aurora. Instead install GOS implementation of google play on a separate user profile if needed. The user profiles are a lot better sandboxed than regular user profiles and the gapp implementation better than aurora. And most things work without it also.
GOS gets more support than regular pixels but are recommended to not trust after pixel official updates end. For the new ones it's 7 years. Usually GOS gets a year extra of minor updates. Check the FAQ and device support on grapheneos.org/faq
I use mine for nearly everything. And there are either FOSS apps from FDroid (and additional repos) or just use the mobile website for non Foss stuff like banking. There are a few exceptions , like Whatsapp that I need but it have fewer permissions and no access to contacts ( there's a Foss app as helper for that as well) . Your headphones will work fine.
GrapheneOS Frequently Asked Questions
GrapheneOSScrath
in reply to merompetehla • • •Works great for me on my pixel 7 but you have to be aware that you loose some stuff too unfortunately.
Not all banking apps work and payment using your phone is completely out.
If you care about it, the health stuff also isn't available
CosmicSurgeon
in reply to merompetehla • • •I have been running GOS for 5 years now on my pixel 4a. Planning to snag a new 9a during black friday sales. Hardware is fine, but I want security updates.
I run my banking through vanadium browser with non-foss 2fa app in a separate profile.
Facebook messenger works, but whatsapp nevers works properly for me. Trying to migrate friends and family to signal.
I mostly use LocalSend to transfer files between my computer and phone. Photos and folders are synced with my synology nas.
Summary: I'm happy with GOS, great battery life and no distracting ad-bloated apps. Can run most apps with google play in separated profiles.
LOLseas
in reply to merompetehla • • •Debian and GOS user here. Worth noting, if you cable the phone to your Debian system, on the phone you must explicitly tell GOS to use the phone in MTP File Transfer mode, if you wanna transfer files. Starting with Android 6, upon cabling a phone to a USB port on a system, the default behavior is just to charge the phone's battery.
Love GOS, but my bank app won't work with it.
Also, 3.5mm audio jacks on phones are phasing out. So I bought an Onix Alpha DAC to use my hi-fi Sennheiser headphones (3.5mm cable) to USB-C. I'm into hi-fi audio, so a DAC for me was a must.
someacnt
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in reply to c1a5s1c • • •monovergent 🛠️
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