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[Discussion] Flatpaks, ram/disk usage and compression


I have 91 flatpaks, and it is my primary way of getting apps. But the (not very shared) dependencies have been bothering me lately.

I was primarily drawn in because Gnome Software has a cool UI and because I wanted the magic of one-click installs. I heard a lot of things about Flatpak and gave it a try.

I have a relatively small 72GB BTRFS root partition with zstd:1 (lowest) enabled. I think disk compression helps with the Flatpak dependency mess, as I only have 60% disk usage currently.

Idk how much extra RAM my flatpaks use, but I don't want 4 versions of the same dependency taking up space in my RAM. Thought about enabling zram to compensate for this. As different versions of the same library in RAM are easy to compress.

I don't think this compression mentality I instinctively adopted is healthy. Make stuff reliable in expense of storage/ram -> compress storage/ram in expense of proc. power

Another thing is slow Flatpak downloads. I have a gigabit connection, and Arch mirrors generally work around 30MB/s with WiFi. Flatpak, on the other hand, hits at max. 5MB/s with its "CDN"

Overall, even though it's kind of ugly, I absolutely love the "don't think about it" mentality of flatpaks. It just works most of the time. I simply use the system package manager for programs that heavily interact with the system (like IDEs, management stuff, and so on)

I am interested in hearing your opinions.

in reply to yogurtwrong

As someone who worked OS security after working build/release on Unix and Linux, don't use flatpaks. The modicum of comfort you gain in brainless installs you lose far more in validation of package contents.

And brainless installs on Linux (yum install) is about the same via synaptic/etc. You're not missing much.

in reply to yogurtwrong

If you have redundant runtimes then you have to push app developers to update their runtime. This problem will not go away by switching to native packages unless native packages and flatpak versions are not in sync.

in reply to jackeroni

I disagree with some of the panels but support the overall message.

UN is a tool of imperialism to subjugate planet

in reply to Samsuma

Namely the first two. The premise of R2P or "responsibility to protect" has been heavily promoted and one of the major arguments for it was "the UN did nothing to stop genocide in Rawanda". Of course when R2P was applied it was to justify completely destroying Libya in service of US empire.

In truth, in Rawanda, the most heinous crimes were carried out by the RPF led by US puppet Paul Kagame on behalf of US interests.

The same issue in Sudan today is the US-israel-UAE arming RSF militants to throw the country into a perpetual civilian war. This is in line with the decades long zionist-American plot to fracture Sudan.

In Myanmar, again, the imperialists are heavily invested in propagating lies to justify various types of intervention in the name of human rights but really to expand their empire.

People dont just wake up one day and decide to exterminate their neighbors. Such genocidal campaigns are precipitated by imperialist schemes. And in cases when multi-lateral "human rights" interventions occur it has always turned out worse rather than better.

The world doesnt need more UN intervention it needs death to America.

in reply to AlHouthi4President

I had thought and interpreted that the UN or US flag being used in the first panel wouldn't have made a difference but then I remembered someone could absolutely try to diminish the US's (and really the collective West's) role in perpetually balkanizing and destabilizing the Global South by dispersing the blame equally to each member state of the UN (both-sidesing/all-sidesing/whatever-the-fuck-it's-called)..

Thanks for the sources, I've learned a lot more new material from this than I care to admit..

in reply to Samsuma

There is an interesting relevant history. Regarding the UN resolution 678 which justified the imperialist destruction and genocide of Iraq in the 90's, the US pressured all members on the security council to support it. Even non-permanent members.

With America's place in the world, not to mention Mr. Bush's political future, riding on the outcome of the gulf crisis, the Administration never hesitated to let other nations know that their support for this resolution was vital to Washington, which would remember its friends, and its foes. Minutes after the Yemeni elegate joined the Cubans in voting against the resolution at the Security Council on Thursday, a senior American diplomat was instructed to tell him: "That was the most expensive no vote you ever cast" -- meaning it would result in an end to America's more than $70 million in foreign aid to Yemen.


Thankfully the US has much less leverage against Russia and China today compared to 35 years ago but I think its readily apparent that the UN "peacekeepers" are generally just used as cudgels on behalf of US-led NATO domination. Examples from Haiti to Lebanon to Mali

I would much prefer a UN that is utterly powerless than one that is used to justify genocidal sanctions on Iraq or Iran for instance.

Thanks for the sources, I’ve learned a lot more new material from this than I care to admit


Always glad to share when I have time. We are all always learning new things together 🫡

in reply to jackeroni

"United" Nations: Western nations united in exploiting everyone else.


Is Tor browser on Mullvad DNS a bad idea?


Newb:
I set secure DNS to Mullvad DNS.
Since I can't afford a VPN, I do my web searches on Tor browser.
in reply to unicornBro

No. It's fine.

Tor uses its own DNS system to my recollection. It's true there is DNS as part of fingerprinting and DNS leaks are a concern for VPNs (see for example dnsleaktest.com/) but Tor is not vulnerable to this and it's more a problem of you're using a VPN to appear to be in NYC but your DNS shows Phoenix so that's a big discrepancy that raises the uniqueness of your fingerprint on a VPN and even lets threat actors guesstimate where you actually are. As I said though this is not an issue on Tor.

So understand that the DNS from Mullvad will only affect other programs not Tor. It will prevent say your ISP's DNS from seeing your video games calling their domains that way. Your ISP can still see you're connecting to infrastructure for as an example Genshin Impact when you launch the game because they can see where your traffic is flowing and the IP addresses as well as traffic patterns, ports, etc. It somewhat limits the data and visibility they get but there is something called SNI snooping as well as of course the fact they know the IP addresses where your connections go. So it's perhaps better than nothing but understand the limits of it as they still have a lot of visibility though they shouldn't be able to see your web searches regardless just that you're accessing google or bing or duckduckgo as those sites use HTTPS.

in reply to unicornBro

More context please. Where did you set the DNS? Smartphone, desktop? In browser or on system settings?

Assuming the following: You set the general DNS on your AOSP based smartphone to Mullvad and use Tor bowser simultaneously.

This is perfectly fine as Tor browser uses its own DNS. They won't interfere.

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in reply to n7gifmdn

The power creep in the MCU is already bonkers. We can't go and add him. We don't have any villains to challenge the Super.


Epstein scandal broadens as trove of letters from famous figures published


The letters, written to Epstein by a number of high-profile individuals, were reportedly compiled as a birthday gift for Epstein’s 63rd birthday in 2016.

In one letter, former prime minister of Israel Ehud Barak and his wife wrote “there is no limit to your curiosity.”

“You are like a closed book to many of them but you know everything about everyone,” they wrote, describing Epstein as “A COLLECTOR OF PEOPLE”. They continued: “May you enjoy long and healthy life and may all of us, your friends, enjoy your table for many more years to come.”

#USA


Epstein scandal broadens as trove of letters from famous figures published


The letters, written to Epstein by a number of high-profile individuals, were reportedly compiled as a birthday gift for Epstein’s 63rd birthday in 2016.

In one letter, former prime minister of Israel Ehud Barak and his wife wrote “there is no limit to your curiosity.”

“You are like a closed book to many of them but you know everything about everyone,” they wrote, describing Epstein as “A COLLECTOR OF PEOPLE”. They continued: “May you enjoy long and healthy life and may all of us, your friends, enjoy your table for many more years to come.”

in reply to FarraigePlaisteaċ

"What was known about Jeffrey Epstein was that he had been convicted of a crime and had served his sentence," Chomsky told the Journal about his meetings. "According to U.S. laws and norms, that yields a clean slate."


For a propaganda expert that's an incredibly bad comeback from Chomsky.

in reply to cub Gucci

Epstein: Hey Chomsky, can you help me manufacture some consent?
in reply to bigfondue

If they can't consent there's no need to manufacture it ( ͡° ل͜ ͡°)

in reply to jackeroni

Also people forgot how the war started because of NATO (we admitted to it)
in reply to jackeroni

I think people hate Russia too much to care about the "particulars"



Domain names for catch all email aliases


I'm looking into getting some domains for email, so I don't need to use the same few addresses for everything. In doing this, the domain name itself becomes the identity, but it's also entirely arbitrary.

What is a good method to choose domain names so that they look more or less normal? Catch all addresses can of course be detected in SMTP, but the idea is just to not look suspicious. Would anyone be comfortable sharing the constructions they use? (though not the domains themselves, for obvious reasons) Should I use subdomains for the things that can safely be correlated, (as spam defense) or is it better to only use different mailboxes on one domain?

in reply to spinning_disk_engineer

Something you can remember...

Catch alls are most useful when you are away and you need to give an email out. If you can't remember the domain that becomes a pain.

in reply to spinning_disk_engineer

I’m looking into getting some domains for email, so I don’t need to use the same few addresses for everything.


Getting a custom domain for email is smart. It’s a necessary step given how data is treated these days. The domain becomes your identifier, but it's essentially arbitrary. I switched from sharing a single email address (which predictably led to breaches and spam) to creating dedicated emails for each service. Now, when an account gets compromised, I just redirect that email to oblivion. It’s a clean break, and a strangely revealing look at how online identities get resold and repurposed. Worth considering.

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in reply to Doubledee [comrade/them]

That’s one interpretation I guess. Even if it was unintentional by Rowling, I thought it was a perfect example of how neoliberalism sets the stage for a fascist takeover. People who shit on the books just come across as contrarians to me. Must hate popular thing so people know how enlightened I am.
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in reply to djsaskdja

It's literally in the book. Harry becomes a wizard CIA agent. They still have slaves at the end. The book ends with Harry wondering if his chattel slave will bring him food. They don't help the muggles, they don't rectify the injustice of their tiered society.

I think the anti fascist angle is a nice thing to get from it but it's not really supported by the text. Riddle is ontologically evil for no reason, he's bad Dumbledore. Dumbledore controls the entire society and can act with impunity. I don't even think all this stuff is intentional. It's just not that deep.

in reply to Doubledee [comrade/them]

Yeah, okay, but none of that is actually real. At least the books are good about addressing actual social issues, like POC representation with such fleshed out characters as Cho Chang and Kingsley Shacklebolt.
in reply to Doubledee [comrade/them]

I’ll have to re-read that last chapter I guess. I never really cared for the epilogue anyway. It seemed like bad fan fiction compared to the rest of the series. For the most part the core part of the books aren’t that bad. I agree that it’s not really that deep though. It’s fiction for babies. I just get annoyed with the circlejerk of people piling on it 15 years after the fact. Almost as bad as the people who are still completely obsessed with it. Just let people live lol.
in reply to djsaskdja

For sure, there's an unhealthy internet thing of just hating stuff, I hope it's obvious I'm not doing that. I actually think the books for younger kids are overall better and a lot of the worst stuff could have been avoided if she just stuck to writing fun mysteries for children. She was pretty good at snarky irreverent kid stuff.

The biggest fans in my life hate the epilogue too, so you're in good company there.



Announcement video of Deepmind Genie 3


Pro doesn't like this.



German club backs out of signing Israel striker after fan backlash


Bundesliga 2 side Fortuna Dusseldorf has pulled out of signing Israel striker Shon Weissman in response to fan anger about his social media posts on the Gaza war, German tabloid Bild has reported.

Fan furore erupted online on Monday when news emerged that Weissman was on the cusp of joining Dusseldorf from Spanish side Granada FC.

Bild reported that Weissman called for Israel to “wipe Gaza off the map” and to “drop 200 tons of bombs on it”.

The 29-year-old had also liked posts saying “there are no innocents [in Gaza], they don’t need to be warned”.



German club backs out of signing Israel striker after fan backlash


Bundesliga 2 side Fortuna Dusseldorf has pulled out of signing Israel striker Shon Weissman in response to fan anger about his social media posts on the Gaza war, German tabloid Bild has reported.

Fan furore erupted online on Monday when news emerged that Weissman was on the cusp of joining Dusseldorf from Spanish side Granada FC.

Bild reported that Weissman called for Israel to “wipe Gaza off the map” and to “drop 200 tons of bombs on it”.

The 29-year-old had also liked posts saying “there are no innocents [in Gaza], they don’t need to be warned”.



in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Hope she don't succeed, she's a really disgusting political slimeball, even for the low local standards.
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openSUSE Leap 16.0 Enters RC Phase With New Installer, Xfce On Wayland Option


The openSUSE Leap 16.0 release is going to be among the first Linux distributions delivering an Xfce desktop experience atop Wayland as one of its offered desktop options. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 16.0 packages have seen a lot of work recently for those interested in running Xfce on Wayland albeit in an experimental state.
in reply to Karna

I remember wanting to try opensuse. I got to the installer and just noped out. I needed to manually partition things and it was so depressing to figure out. I have very little patience so I just scrapped that idea.
in reply to DonutsRMeh

Every time I reinstall, it takes me a while to remember how I did it last time.
in reply to DonutsRMeh

I think OpenSUSE, at least, has changed/improved the installer since the last time I used it. It remains to be seen whether it'll be easier to handle my existing partitions or just more arcane, since I'll have no previous experience, even vague memories.
in reply to swelter_spark

I'm traumatized by their installer. lol. I think fedora's new installer is fantastic. I can't wait for Bazzite to use it, too.
in reply to DonutsRMeh

I really liked Peppermint's installer, back when I used it. I think it was Calamares then? It handled existing partitions well, and was easy to understand.
in reply to swelter_spark

They are going to change the installer app real soon. Probably will make installing easier. Only the partitions part wasn't clear while installing but I managed.



Kalamazoo Linux Users Group


Tonight in #kalamazoo is the weekly Kalamazoo #Linux Users Group. I have been going again lately. It is a nice old group that has been holding on for more than 10 years by the one and only Lynden Kirk.
If you happen to be in #swmi, #westmi, #battlecreek come out and join us.

So it is tuesday nights at 6pm(18 for the rest of the world) at
Kzoo Makers
1102 E. Michigan Ave.
Kalamazoo, MI 49048



From Gaza: A Student’s Story of Loss, Resilience, and Hope


cross-posted from: hexbear.net/post/5757723

My name is Soliman — a young man and student from Gaza, carrying a burden far heavier than my age. Between my studies and the hardships of life, I try to be the backbone of my family in the most difficult of times.

We once had a small farm — olive and citrus trees, and a greenhouse where we planted not just crops, but dreams.

That farm was our only source of income, and more than that, it was a place full of memories, of hope, and of the laughter that once made life a little easier.

But in a single moment, everything was gone.

A fire reduced our years of effort to ashes.

We lost our source of living, our stability — and with it, a part of our souls.

Now, despite the pain, I’m trying to start over. I’m doing everything I can to keep my family standing, to find even the smallest light of hope that might restore our strength, dignity, and sense of humanity.

On top of all this, I’m also struggling with serious health issues.

I suffer from a urinary tract infection caused by the lack of access to clean drinking water.

Here in Gaza, we’re forced to drink water mixed with sand and other contaminants — there’s simply no other choice.

It’s affecting my health badly, and I need treatment I can’t afford in these conditions.

I’m sharing my story with honesty and hope, praying it reaches a kind heart — someone who can help, or even just share it with others who might be able to.

If you’re able to support us in any way, here’s my GoFundMe link:

❤️ gofund.me/da782c66

Every share, every kind word, and every small donation could be a lifeline for us.

From the bottom of my heart, thank you for taking a moment to read my story.

in reply to Soliman_ayman [none/use name]

I’ve seen this kid posted all over the Fediverse. Do we know if his story is real? A sad story, a photo of a young man and his sister, and a GoFundMe link seem like decent ingredients for a scam, but I don’t know enough about this person to say one way or another.
in reply to WeirdGoesPro

I completely understand your doubt — the world is full of scams, and it’s your right to question things.

But my story is real, and unfortunately, what my family and I are living through in Gaza is beyond words.

The photo is real, the account is real, and the GoFundMe link was created by a friend in Germany because I’m unable to create one from Gaza.

All I ask is for you to consider sharing it if possible — or even just a prayer.

Thank you for your compassion, even if you’re still unsure.

in reply to Soliman_ayman [none/use name]

Thank you for replying, and I’m sorry that bad actors on the internet make people like me have to be a little suspicious of posts like this.

Have you considered providing photographic proof that you are the person in the picture, such as providing a photo of you holding a piece of paper that says “Hello Lemmy” with the current date and time on it? Things like that are usually typical when you are proving your identity in a post like this because it allows people to analyze it for signs of photo manipulation. With nothing but a few photos of you in Gaza, it is impossible to tell if it is really you or if someone has stolen those photos and is impersonating you for money.

Assuming that you are the man in the photo, I do want to say how horrible I feel about the genocide happening in your country. Nobody deserves that, and most of the world sees the crimes happening against your people, even if those in power are too cowardly to do anything.

in reply to WeirdGoesPro

The way that gofundme page is worded and coupled with Soliman's llm-like writing style... I still wouldn't trust it. This reeks of scam. Unless they can really produce the pictures you mentioned.
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in reply to Doctor MoodMood

OP did seemingly attempt to send me a photo, but it would not load. I don’t know what to think. I’ve chosen to assume good faith, but I also am not in a position to donate to the GoFundMe. They did say that they posted proof photos to Reddit previously, so if anybody wants to go back into that hellhole to find out, the answer might be there.
in reply to SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]

That’s helpful, thanks. I’m glad to hear that this person is real and people are helping.
in reply to WeirdGoesPro

Np thanks for understanding, we get a lot of people from Gaza on hexbear reaching out for help and I've chatted with a few of them over the course of the war.


Multiplayer TicTacToe made with nbbcljs and DataStar



in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

I'm sure this is the first of a long list of necessary public sector cuts that we're going to see. Not necessary because the program or the cause aren't justifiable. Necessary because a) we have a budget problem that existed well before the current tariff and soveriegnty crisis, and b) this government is about to commit to a whole bunch of new spending on infrastructure and national defence. We can't have it all and still reasonably pay for it. Hell, we may still not be able to pay for it.

But that said, consider priorities: Is women and gender equality better served by this program, or by having a safe, secure, and prosperous nation? Look south to consider the alternative.

I'd love to see WAGE stick around. Hell, I'd like to see it expanded. In the meantime, Canadians, especially the menfolk, can commit to equality each and every day to rightfully improve the conditions of women.

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ doesn't like this.

in reply to sugarfoot00

LMFAO the cuts are to facilitate 5% NATO spending, that's not how you make a safe and prosperous nation. This neoliberal carnie is going to rip up the fundamental social contract to fund militarism. Anybody who thinks this is going to be for the benefit of Canadians is naive beyond belief.


US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’


As two masked men dragged her into an unmarked SUV, Andrea Velez tried to focus on details she might later remember – one man’s red shirt, the car’s leather seats, a black backpack inside.

At 9.20am on 24 June in downtown Los Angeles, the 32-year-old was heading into work at a footwear company when the men in gator masks jumped out of their car and started chasing vendors and other people on the street, she recalled. As people fled, Velez froze and held on to her bag.

Suddenly, she recalled, one of the men slammed her to the ground and placed her into his car. The men had “Police” vests, but otherwise were in plainclothes and didn’t identify themselves. She didn’t know why they had taken her.

The men, it turned out, were Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) deportation officers. They were looking to question people about “whether they were lawfully present” in the US, an agent later wrote. Velez is a US citizen who grew up in downtown, not far from the incident.

“They just came out ready to attack anyone,” said Velez, in her first interview since her arrest. “I thought they were kidnapping me.”

A day after her arrest, the Department of Justice charged Velez with assaulting an officer, which could carry a 20-year sentence. The claim was shocking to Velez, who is 4ft 11in and said she had not laid hands on anyone.

#USA


US citizens jailed in LA Ice raids speak out: ‘They came ready to attack’


As two masked men dragged her into an unmarked SUV, Andrea Velez tried to focus on details she might later remember – one man’s red shirt, the car’s leather seats, a black backpack inside.

At 9.20am on 24 June in downtown Los Angeles, the 32-year-old was heading into work at a footwear company when the men in gator masks jumped out of their car and started chasing vendors and other people on the street, she recalled. As people fled, Velez froze and held on to her bag.

Suddenly, she recalled, one of the men slammed her to the ground and placed her into his car. The men had “Police” vests, but otherwise were in plainclothes and didn’t identify themselves. She didn’t know why they had taken her.

The men, it turned out, were Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) deportation officers. They were looking to question people about “whether they were lawfully present” in the US, an agent later wrote. Velez is a US citizen who grew up in downtown, not far from the incident.

“They just came out ready to attack anyone,” said Velez, in her first interview since her arrest. “I thought they were kidnapping me.”

A day after her arrest, the Department of Justice charged Velez with assaulting an officer, which could carry a 20-year sentence. The claim was shocking to Velez, who is 4ft 11in and said she had not laid hands on anyone.




Exclusive: UK pushed Arab states to condemn Hamas in UN conference statement


A UN conference in New York last week, attended by more than 100 countries and co-chaired by France and Saudi Arabia, aimed to advance momentum for a two-state solution.

Numerous diplomatic sources told MEE the UK was pivotal in pushing for these demands to be included in the statement, as well as the inclusion of strong language condemning the Hamas attack on Israel on 7 October 2023.

It was described as "both historic and unprecedented" by French Foreign Minister Jean-Noel Barrot.

He hailed that for "the first time" Arab and Middle Eastern countries "condemn Hamas, condemn 7 October, call for its disarmament, call for its exclusion from any form of participation in the governance of Palestine, and clearly express their intention to maintain normalised relations with Israel in the future and to join Israel and the future state of Palestine in a regional organisation".

in reply to geneva_convenience

Jordan and Egypt are now arresting citizens and beating them for sharing pro resistance sentiment of any kind. They most recently beat a kid from a big Jordanian tribe so bad they popped his left eye and he lost sight. His mom made a plea to public opinion describing what happened and calling for justice, she was forced to delete it and silenced, which only made it spread more. Civil war is coming to more than just the US, the puppet states are gonna collapse with it as well.
in reply to 3abas

Nice. Syria has recently fell in the hands of Israel. If the current Western client states want to rise up now is a pretty good time to do so.

in reply to bubblybubbles

Kim Jong Un, Kim Jong Deux, Kim Jong Trois, Kim Jong Quatre, Kim Jong Cinq...the Pentateuch!


From Gaza: A Student’s Story of Loss, Resilience, and Hope


My name is Soliman a young man and student from Gaza carrying a burden far heavier than my age. Between my studies and the hardships of life I try to be the backbone of my family in the most difficult of times

We once had a small farm with olive and citrus trees and a greenhouse where we planted not just crops but dreams

That farm was our only source of income and more than that it was a place full of memories of hope and of the laughter that once made life a little easier

But in a single moment everything was gone

A fire reduced our years of effort to ashes

We lost our source of living our stability and with it a part of our souls

Now despite the pain I’m trying to start over. I’m doing everything I can to keep my family standing to find even the smallest light of hope that might restore our strength dignity and sense of humanity

I share these words with honesty and hope hoping they reach a kind heart someone who can help or even simply share my story with others who might be able to

If you’re able to support us in any way here is the link to our GoFundMe campaign

👉 gofund.me/da782c66

Every share every kind word every small donation could be a lifeline for us

From the bottom of my heart thank you for taking a moment to read my story



Israel is ‘on the precipice of defeat’ in Gaza, ex-officials say — as Netanyahu believes only military victory can free hostages


Nineteen former Israeli military, intelligence and police chiefs warned that the Jewish state is “on the precipice of defeat” in Gaza, calling for an end to the war to save the hostages.

The retired Israeli leaders, including former prime minister and IDF chief Ehud Barak, said in a video released Sunday that Israel has accumulated too many losses in Gaza with no clear end in sight, with the officials accusing Netanyahu of keeping the war alive for the sole purpose of preserving the fragile right-wing coalition that controls his government.

“We are on the precipice of defeat,” said former Mossad director Tamir Pardo, referencing the mass backlash against Israel over the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.






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Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34201505

Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.




Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.



https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/04/moderate-democrats-israel-support-tone-ritchie-torres-00491554



Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34201505

Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.




Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.



https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/04/moderate-democrats-israel-support-tone-ritchie-torres-00491554

#USA


Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34201505

Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.




Moderate Democrats change their tone on Israel


Ritchie Torres is threading a needle after emphatic defense of Israel for most of the war.

from Politico
08/04/2025 05:55 AM EDT

[It's disgusting how feeble and late this is, but it is an indication of how popular sentiment continues to shift against Israel. 👍 ]

In recent days, a majority of Democratic senators voted for a resolution to bar the sale of assault rifles to Israeli police, a marked change in the party since the start of the military conflict. Their unprecedented rebuke comes as polling shows slipping support for Israel among Democratic voters, signaling the prolonged war has potentially caused permanent damage to the country’s relationship with the Democratic Party.



https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/04/moderate-democrats-israel-support-tone-ritchie-torres-00491554

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