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Pebble Time 2* Design Reveal

It's real and it's magnificent

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FireWire400

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I'm actually glad I ordered the 2 Duo, not at all fond of this new design.

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Death_Equity

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There is a round version, but it isn't in production.

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FireWire400

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I actually like the rectangular design they had before

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Sagan_Wept

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I think it looks sexy, but to each their own. I still don't think I'll upgrade till pebble 3

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AliasVortex

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The blue/ silver is very striking, I'm excited!

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Bradley Martin - Interviewing A Gym Bro In Gaza, the truth about Gaza.

- YouTube

Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.

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#Palestine

China's green energy boom could spell the end of the fossil fuel age

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ABC News provides the latest news and headlines in Australia and around the world.

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Avid Amoeba

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Informative & fortunate.

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Cancer scientist Feng Gensheng leaves US for China as Trump cuts funding

Feng, whose work focuses on liver cancer and immunotherapy, will lead research institute at Shenzhen Bay Laboratory after 40 years abroad.

^{Shi Huang (South China Morning Post)}

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Are these two rar files malware? (virustotal results)

Does anyone know if these two files are considered malware?
I see a lot of things in the behavior tab that seem suspicious (but then again, I have no idea, and am relatively new/dumb).

Here are the images of the virustotal results I am referring to:

Also, I did see there was an noticeable slowness to my pc after I extracted the rar files (I was in a VM).

Thank you.

#piracy

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frongt

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Unlikely for the rar file itself. The exe seems a little suspicious, so I would scan that file individually. Hard to say without unpacking and examining it.

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Yourname942

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Should I have scanned the extracted folders rather than the rar file itself? (even though it shows network communications and mitre signatures?)

I ran an antivirus outside the VM and nothing was detected luckily. (I had already extracted the rar files, but just scanned the rar itself)

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MangoPenguin

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No it's fine, clearly it did extract the rar file and run everything.

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frongt

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Yes, scan the potential malware directly (exe, dll files). Not all scanners support extracting archives.

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Treasure

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TLDR: I can't say for 100% sure, but there are multiple reasons to believe that this is malware.

Long version: I'm seeing multiple suspicious things here.

The IPs being connected to are part of some hoster and have some abuse reports: abuseipdb.com/check-block/217.…
The domain being resolved is qcloud[.]com, which belongs to Tencent Cloud and definitely not Microsoft.
Other domains in memory like counter-strike[.]com[.]ua are very new and definitely sound fishy.
A standalone version of 7zip is being run and extracts the created rar file with the password "infected". Real alarm bells here.
A lot of the registry actions look like anti-debugging, which does not sound like something an Illustrator Plugin would do.

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MangoPenguin

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There are some suspicious things going on like the qcloud and counter-strike domains, as well as the 7zip extract being run.

I would probably get rid of it.

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Yourname942

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I installed 7zip if that made it appear (not sure if it is the case though) Yeah I may have to just pay for subscriptions with money I can't afford :S

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MangoPenguin

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I suppose you can probably do most things without the plugins too, just more time intensive

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CrackedLinuxISO

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Malware or not, remember to update WinRAR

arstechnica.com/security/2025/…

High-severity WinRAR 0-day exploited for weeks by 2 groups

Exploits allow for persistent backdooring when targets open booby-trapped archive.

^{Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)}

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What people think the USA is vs. what it actually is

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Apytele

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Look somebody had to stop Japan from starting up unit 731 and The Rape of Nanjing again.

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Yeah, those were the Red Army and Chinese communists.

Kiev downplays Putin-Trump summit

The two leaders can’t make any deals on Ukraine without it, Vladimir Zelensky has claimed

^RT

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White House to host UFC fight night on 4 July

The fight is set to be part of a series of events commemorating the 250th anniversary of the founding of the United States.

^{Christal Hayes and Jake Lapham (BBC News)}

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A corporate recruiter in Toronto who spent 3 weeks convinced by ChatGPT that he was essentially Tony Stark from Iron Man, agreed to share his transcript after breaking free of the delusion.

archive.ph/NFqWK

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/08/technology/ai-chatbots-delusions-chatgpt.html

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OneXPlayer Super X: New AMD Strix Halo gaming handheld teased with convertible design

The OneXPlayer Super X has been officially teased. Sticking with a similar design to the other X-series devices, it's a convertible gaming handheld but with the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395, which brings the powerful Radeon 8060S iGPU.

^{Abid Ahsan Shanto (Notebookcheck)}

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Are distros really different or is it more about preference?

I've been working and testing to switch my main PC (used for work like audio recording, music, and general multimedia) and have been playing with Ubuntu Studio on my laptop. Loving it so far but I keep seeing people talk about CachyOS, Bazzite, or the new Debian Trixie.

I'm having trouble finding what's really different about all these distros aside from how they look or slight changes in how they do things (I know Ubuntu Studio has a low latency kernel which seems important for what I need to do). Is there a big difference? Like, if I go with Ubuntu Studio am I gonna end up wiping everything and installing CachyOS or Bazzite or something in a month because it's better? Or are all these distros basically the same thing with a different look and feel and as long as I choose one that gets regular updates, it doesn't matter fundamentally?

I'm trying to grasp the Linux concept but being a Windows user my whole life I'm struggling to 'get it'. Instead of trying to understand in the contex of Windows or Mac, is a better comparison Apple/Android? Like iPhones would be similar to both Mac and Windows (you don't get to choose much) and Android would be Linux (I know it's built on it haha) and it's really just a bunch of different options to do the same thing?

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Kongar

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I’ve said it here before and I’ll continue to say it. All the Linux nerds (myself included) have strong opinions when it comes to distros or x vs Wayland, or flatpak vs repositories, blah blah blah.

But in the end - none of it matters. You could randomly eliminate all options except for one distro - and we’d happily pick that over windows. The trick is that you could make any distro like any other - it’s just that the distro did all the work for you. So pick the one that matches how you want to use your pc.

Maybe the only thing that’s not changeable is the philosophy behind the distro. Debian - older stuff for stability. Arch - bleeding edge rolling release. Fedora somewhere in the middle. You get the idea.

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tyler

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For me it mattered. The majority of distros I tested have had audio or graphical issues (or both). Only bazzite and cachyos have worked straight out of the box.

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relaymoth

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For me, Bluefin as been the only flawless distro.

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tyler

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Yeah and that’s the problem. It does matter which distro and as a result the experience for a noob is horrendous.

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edel

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"Debian - older stuff for stability. Arch - bleeding edge rolling release. Fedora somewhere in the middle." Very true. I would add that then there are a bunch of others that fill the gaps in between. For instance, Ubuntu makes Debian easier and Mint makes Ubuntu more open and TuxedoOS makes Debian/Ubuntu far more up-to-date. Then, CachyOS makes Arch more easy and gamable while Manjaro tries to make Arch more stable. Fedora is a perfect blend but those those that have a beef against Redhat/IBM (USA), OpenSUSE is a perfect blend too of the philosophies of Debian and Arch.

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seralth

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Arch is also just becoming the standard gaming option.

A lot of gaming communities that are migrating over are flowing to the aur for their community tools.

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mnemonicmonkeys

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A lot of gaming communities that are migrating over are flowing to the aur for their community tools.

Wasn't there malware found in the AUR just last week?

For Linux newbs, AUR is the Arch User Repository where anyone can post packages and scripts. It's highly recommended to NOT trust anything on there due to the risk of malware. If you don't use Arch and stick to your distro's application manager you don't have to worry about it

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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I think Fedora KDE is very refined but I stick to Ubuntu bases as there are some little known programs that I use that only have .deb packages unfortunately

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LeFantome

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Have you heard of Distrobox?

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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I've heard the name but don't know what it is. Some program to run other distros packages?

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tyler

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Replying cause I want to know too

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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It appears to be a way of running containers in the terminal with the specific intent to have a certain distro image installed, run a program, and give it permission to interact with your system's home directory with an easy to launch icon.
It looks pretty darn handy, I'm going to give it a try this weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDt4O6UPRw

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MyNameIsRichard

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Some are very different to each other, Arch and Debian where the former is at the bleeding edge of software and the later is the most conservative distro out there. Some are very similar, Ubuntu and Kubuntu where they are the same distro with a different desktop environment and default software.

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Mark

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Distros within the same "family" (e.g. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint) are mostly the same with only small differences between them, while the different families have wildly different approaches to various things.

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floo

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It has been my experience that there is no “best distro“. It’s just a matter of which distro is best for you. there are distros geared for beginners, distros geared for media professionals, distros aimed at software developers,… And it all takes the experience of trying it out to see what works best for you in particular.

While all distro’s have the same underlying components, so to speak, different distro’s, are typically developed with different use cases in mind.

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The main difference has traditionally been the package manager and update schedule, though a distro might offer several options for the second one.

Relatively recently we got another differentiating feature with immutable distros, where updates don't happen with a package manager but often by downloading or building a complete new image with the newer versions.

Other than that distros mainly set the defaults for you, but you can always change that to work or look like another distro with enough effort.

Basically, don't worry about it and use what works for you

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just_another_person

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Ignore anyone claiming there is some massive performance difference between any distros. That's some misinformed bullshit.

The main things you need to understand are the layers:

1) Kernel
2) Libraries
3) Package Manager
4) UserSpace

The Kernel layer will be largely transparent for you as a beginner. If you want bleeding edge stuff, install a "Rolling Release" distro that updates this layer much more frequently than "LTS (long term support)" releases will, as their function is to remain stable for longer periods of time.

Libraries will also be transparent to you as a new user, and even as experts, we rarely need to mess with this layer unless building something specific, which you will not need to worry about. Do not let the Chaff start talking some bullshit about how you to prefer this or that in distros blah blah ...you're a new user. Ignore that noise.

Package Manager: something to consider as you will be interacting with this. RPM, Apt/Deb and pacman are the big three, and all are very mature and stable. They all perform similar basic functions, just in different ways. You'll have a preference in time, but any of them work well. It's not a huge thing you need to worry about, but you'll surely like one over another in time.

UserSpace: where all the fun stuff is. Stick with a distro that has a large community. The biggest choice in how you will interact with your machine as a desktop user is here in that you want to choose a Desktop Environment, or DE. Gnome and KDE are the big two in this arena, but there are many: Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate...etc. Id suggest starting with Gnome if you like a clean MacOS type interface, or KDE if you really like the more verbose sort of Windows experience. Both are fine choices, and you won't have problems with either. Again, ignore everyone telling you one is better than the other...they are not. It's a preference. Try them both, and go with one. You can easily swap later if you want, no big deal.

Lastly: don't go off and use Bl00pyGameRzX or whatever random distro the loudest asshole in a thread is telling you to use. Again, you're a new user, you need simple, stable, and a huge community to reference if you have issues.

I suggest Fedora for new users now after Ubuntu shat the bed and soiled their crown. After getting comfortable with things, maybe look into what the difference is between Fedora and Cachy, and if that's of any use to you. If not, whatever, just keep using what you like. Distro hopping is for aimless people who don't know what they're looking for, or how to identify. Use what YOU like, and keep using it as long as you like it. Ignore the hype machine telling you otherwise. That's the point.

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Mordikan

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One correction to this:

The Arch package manager is Pacman, not AUR. AUR is the Arch User Repository and is definitely not stable 😀

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just_another_person

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Whoops, was in a flow. Good catch.

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caseyweederman

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...kinda wanna try Bl00pyGameRzX now

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NewNewAugustEast

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Ubuntu has always been that bad though. Always.

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just_another_person

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Not at all. It was fine for new users. It was the mostly popular distribution for years for a reason.

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NewNewAugustEast

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Because people recommended it.

There were better options. It crashed or broke all the time. Still does.

It would never be a recommendation for new users from me. I tried every version since 4, so I am not new to its shittyness.

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just_another_person

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Ran thousands of servers on it for years without a hiccup. No idea what you were doing wrong there, but that's not my experience.

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NewNewAugustEast

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I suppose I should have clarified: Ubuntu desktop. I don't really have a problem with Ubuntu server, although why bother when you can just use Debian. Did you choose it for the newer packages?

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just_another_person

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Ubuntu has specific toolchain stacks that make imaging and packaging easier when you're running continuously deployed stacks that change frequently.

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seralth

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General rule of thumb for new users.

Doesn't like to tinker and non gamer. Fedora

Likes to thinker and non gamer endeavour

Doesn't like to tinker and gamer bazzite

Likes to tinker and gamer cachy

Arch at this point is no more unstable or prone to breaking then mint or any other distro barring like Debian. Cachy and endeavour with kde6 basically have solved the arch isn't for new users problem coming from Windows.

So really you just need to ask yourself. Do you want your defaults to include gaming utilities or do you want to have to install them yourself. If your going to game you can save yourself hours as a new user with bazzite or cachy since they come out of the box with a button for "I want to install all the gaming stuff" and your good to go.

If you don't game and just do basic work then you can go with fedora which will provide a great curated experience that basically just leaves you with a standard and reliable work PC.

Or endeavour which will drop you off right at the point of everything works, is reliable and ready for you to start learning. Even if you choose to never fiddle with anything, you still end up with a system that supports the widest possible amount of hardware and has one of the best user manuals of any distro family.

Seriously for as much as people claim you need a big community for refence material. Between cachy and arches wiki, you have a better source of information than any other option. It's absurd how useful it is.

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just_another_person

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Y'all really need to get off the Bazzite thing for new users.

Fedora for gaming is great and has zero issues.

Bazzite is no better than any other distro in this respect EXCEPT that it's immutable, and going to be a NIGHTMARE for somebody not yet familiar with how things work in a Linux system. It's edge cases upon edge cases, and the assumption by people pushing this idiocy is that they'll never need to know how a normal functioning Linux system works if they like it, which is an ignorant supposition.

Stop pushing this narrative to new users, you're just making it harder on them.

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JeremyHuntQW12

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You mean opaque.

And you will definitely find out about libraries if you attempt to install anything.

Some packages will install in your home directory, others, for no apparent reason will spread themselves around the system in the area only available in administration mode. Good luck finding where it all went. The only way I can find is to look at the path in Synaptic, most package managers won't record it.

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just_another_person

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This...I don't understand what this is.

No distro managed by a package manager would be dropping files all over the place as you're suggesting, not would it require you to interact with or even know which libraries you have installed because it's all automatically handled by said package manager.

If you're installing out of band packages, you're talking about a different thing, and that's the package maintainer's fault, not the distro and their maintainers.

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mnemonicmonkeys

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Great comment. Makes me wish that Lemmy allowed comments to be pinned

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bubbalouie

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Grass is greener...Linux is a kernel with tools attached that distributions play with and present as they would as a distribution. Packaging (program management) is different throughout with all the distros loving their 'tool', or, methodology. Some distros present helpful scripts to get a thing done, or, look a way, or, whatever, and some do not.

Windows tells you, here, you can use this or do this and cannot do this or use that. Linux tells you to simply have at it and makes it all available for you to use or not to use. Windows sits you at the kiddie table whereas Linux gives you materials and tools.

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Ŝan

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Þe biggest difference is going to be in þe package manager. And even þen, it can be furþer generalized into rolling vs point releases. Software tends to be þe same, once installed.

Notable differences from þe common selection:

Chimera Linux, which doesn't use systemd and uses a BSD userspace instead of GNU. Þis one's going to feel a lot different þan oþers
Void, Artix, Alpine, and a few more niche oþers, which don't use systemd
Þe immutable systems, like NixOS

Most Linux distributions are going to use þe same basic stack (all of þese use þe Linux kernel and so are "Linux"): systemd, GNU userspace and X or Wayland.

Distributions have some package manager, some default set-up, and selection of themes and desktop backgrounds þat give þem þeir flavor; but beyond þe package manager, init system (and in þe case of systemd, a whole bunch of oþer subsystems), and userspace, it's all superficial and common across distributions and can be swapped or installed on most distributions - often wiþout even a reboot. Þe userspace and init are not impossible to swap out for someþing else, but are generally quite hard (and harder for systemd) to replace, as is þe package manager.

Þe main decision, þen IMHO for new users is to decide wheþer þey want a rolling or point release (or an immutable distribution), and almost always for new users þe answer is "point release" since maintenance is usually lower, giving folks time to get used to Linux before facing þem wiþ some breaking software upgrade. NixOS has a notoriously comparatively high learning curve, as does GUIX; oþer immutable distros maybe not so, but none have yet achieved notoriety, and þe smaller þe community, þe less help you'll find online. Þis usually means some descendent of Redhat or Debian, like Mint, which is why even people who don't use Mint þemselves end up recommending it as a starter.

Chimera Linux

^{Chimera Linux}

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Hemingways_Shotgun

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In terms of how you interact with it day to day, no. And that's because the Distro in that sense matters less than the desktop environment. Since DEs are fundamentally distro agnostic, most distros give a person the option for multiple choices in that regard, so it doesn't really matter if you're using Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, etc.... what matters from a usage perspective is if you're using KDE, or Gnome, or XFCE, etc...

Under the hood there's a lot of differences in how each one chooses to do things, but I wouldn't call one of them better or worse than any other and for the most part can be ignored.

My advice would be narrow it down to one choice; and that's your package manager. That's really where most of the difference lies. Find the one that you find easiest to use (Apt, Pacman/Pamac, DNF, Zypper) and that's where you land until you're comfortable.

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cRazi_man

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Noob opinion: they're all the same, you're just choosing from the minor differences in the quirks one has over another and it would be easy enough to work around those if you were motivated to.

The real difference is the DE, how quickly updates are pushed, good GUI on a package manager and if it is immutable or not.

For noobs like me it also helps if it has a lot of users so I can find forum posts about my specific problem. Vetrans keep saying that online documentation is enough, but I wouldn't even know where to start with applying generic instructions to my installation (e.g. how is a wiki going to be able to tell me that my low framerates in Street Fighter 6 are because of split lock protections on my CPU). How would I diagnose the problem to know where to look? This is the major appeal of Debian based systems.

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pogodem0n

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A Linux distribution is just the Linux kernel distributed with various other pieces of software that make it usable. Often times, there are multiple software projects that aim achieve the same goal by going in different paths. These are packaged together by the distro maintainers who mostly do this out of passion.

Different distros prioritize different aspects of the software they package and they do this in different ways. To make the best choice for you, it is best to try and understand what each distro aims to do. Here are a few examples out my head:
- Debian is a traditional distribution that aims to keep the system stable for a few years. They do backport security patches, but slow rollout of feature updates is a deal-breaker for some people (like me).
- CachyOS (based on Arch Linux) compiles it's packages utilizing newest CPU instructions which may lead to slight performance gain on newer hardware. They also ship some kernel patches optimizing it for gaming use cases.
- Bazzite is based on an atomic/immutable version of Fedora. The aim here is to provide a system that makes it very hard for users to mess it up, using containerization technologies. It also means that installing packages in the traditional way is not very feasible or recommended. You are supposed to install packages without root access and using technologies like flatpak. It also includes some gaming specific kernel patches similar to CachyOS, but not as many.

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NewNewAugustEast

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Ubuntu is broken, or will be broken. It has been that way since the beginning.

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Jack_Burton

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Really? I thought Ubuntu was one of the main distros?

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NewNewAugustEast

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Sure, but it is just Debian with their crap bolted on.

The last two times I installed Ubuntu somewhat recently, it was broken at the install. I fixed it, but it shouldn't be that way. The hardware was nothing exotic or interesting either.

It has always been troublesome.

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HakunaHafada

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

If you haven't noticed yet, the Linux community gets pretty divisive about distros. For what it's worth, my friend swears by Ubuntu. Personally, I use Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu, and my issues are pretty infrequent or troublesome.

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Admetus

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Ultimately my choice of distro came down to what packages are available under the package managers.

I found a couple of packages only under the AUR so I go Arch.

But what I want from Linux, and what makes it Linux to me is the DE. So I could use Fedora Gnome or EndeavourOS gnome and just go with whichever is best for my use case.

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brucethemoose

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

As you see, there are 1000 different opinions, heh.

My take is it’s about user patterns.

Every distro has different maintenance expectations, different tolerance for bugs and keeping stuff up to date and working. That’s the flavor difference: it’s all the same packages just served to you a different way.

As an example, Arch Linux has an expectation for the user to pay attention to maintenance. Read their excellent wiki. Update frequently, and pay attention to errors and warnings when you do. There is one version of Python, so update your stuff to work with out. The “reward” for being so hands on is stuff getting automatically fixed quickly.

CachyOS is just a preconfigured version of this, with presets and experimental features tailored for gaming. But it’s largely not divergent from the underlying Arch system: you could switch from an arch install to CachyOS packages with zero fuss.

Contrast with Ubuntu. It is meant to be more “hands off” with staged and delayed updates. There are many versions of Python present in the same system, so old stuff works without changes. But the consequence is you may have to live with certain problems you run into, or risk breaking your system trying to fix them.

Fedora is somewhere in between, with the addition of an emphasis on free software. And a consequence of that is, for instance, no first party support for Nvidia. Bazzite builds on top of that by expensively modifying it into a stable platform for gaming, but you’re also dependent on a relatively small group of maintainers.

So I guess one question is how involved with your computer do you want to be?

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chromodynamic

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

The main differences are:

package management (how you install new programs)
release model (fixed vs rolling)
default desktop environments (the GUI / look and feel)

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frongt

in reply to chromodynamic • 1 mese fa • •

Yup. Until you get into stuff like immutable distros, because that's a whole different animal.

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Semperverus

in reply to chromodynamic • 1 mese fa • •

Workflows are different, configuration files can be different, and package names (not just management) can be different.

Additionally, release cadence (how fast you get new stuff, even when considering fixed releases), stability, performance (how were the packages compiled), and custom patches that aren't part of the original code (*shakes fist angrily at Manjaro*)

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seralth

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa • •

If you don't like Manjaro for that then your going to hate steamOS. Lol

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Semperverus

in reply to seralth • 4 settimane fa • •

I don't like how the manjaro team does it specifically. A lot of the time i've seen packages break in Manjaro that work fine in Arch, then Manjaro users come into Arch forums acting like its an Arch problem when it isn't.

Also, their driver install helper causes more problems than it solves, which was especially highlighted in the transition to open source official nvidia drivers. Couldn't install the open source ones for the longest time, and couldn't install the right ones from the repo with pacman directly. Caused some major issues for a friend I was helping.

Helped him switch to proper Arch and all the issues went away.

Valve on the other hand puts extreme effort into maintaining stability. I use it regularly and have zero issues, though I use it as-is out of the box.

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LeFantome

in reply to chromodynamic • 1 mese fa • •

Agreed.

Though if you get off the beaten path, you get things like system supervisor, system compiler, C library, and core utils.

But most Linux distros are systemd, GCC, Glibc, and GNU utils. Which brings us back to your list.

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pyssla

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

I wanted to write a long-ass comment until I remembered the existence of the following excellent guide: lemmy.ml/post/18268622 . Please give it a read 😉.

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pineapple

in reply to pyssla • 4 settimane fa • •

That guide is so awesome! Thanks for showing me.

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Dessalines

in reply to pyssla • 4 settimane fa • •

I've stickied that to this community.

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Xatolos

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

It's the difference between Windows 11, Windows 11 Pro, Windows 11 for Enterprise, and Windows Server 2025.

There are differences, but not dramatic differences. Some are just better tuned to certain users than others.

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pineapple

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

I don’t think there is really too much difference either. Mainly the package manager is the main difference I guess. There are a lot of other differences but if you don’t really care about it then it doesn’t really matter.

The desktop environment makes a much bigger difference than the distro.

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Ulu-Mulu-no-die

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

First thing to consider is they all use the same Desktop Environments.

Unlike Windows, in Linux the "graphic" is completely separated from the operating system, any DE can be uses on any distro, so trying different distros that come with the same DE, might make you think there's very little difference (at first look).

Second, almost all distros are derivatives, that contributes to make them feel similar. The original ones are just a bunch: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, SuSe, Arch, Gentoo, everything else is based either on one of those or on another derivative, if your curious you can have a look at this graph: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lin…
So for example, if you take Ubuntu and Mint, they might look similar because Mint is based on Ubuntu.

If you want to see the real differences, you need to look at the original ones, the core differences are: the way software is packaged and managed, and the "philosophy" behind the way the system is overall administered, maintained and released.

Derivatives add differences to the user experience, they main reason they're created is someone is not completely happy with the way a distro does things and they create one the meets their needs, for example, Debian is improved dramatically on the user experience lately, but many years ago was quite arduous to setup and use for non-experts, so Ubuntu was born.

Now to answer you question

as long as I choose one that gets regular updates, it doesn’t matter fundamentally?

It does matter, tho it's not as much world-changing as some people seem to think (especially when it comes to gaming).

The most important things are support for your hardware and easy of administration/use. Most distros will recognize and setup your hardware out of the box, but some might require tinkering or extra steps. Some distros automate almost everything so the user doesn't need to think about it, others require more knowledge and more manual intervention, you have a much finer control of your system this way at the expense of some user friendliness, it's up to you to decide what you prefer.

Then it comes the Desktop Environment, different DEs do things differently, which one to choose is totally personal preference.

As for software, unless you go after some niche obscure distro, you shouldn't have problems finding it in the distro repositories. For edge cases you can always use Flatpaks or AppImages.

File:Linux Distribution Timeline.svg - Wikipedia

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teawrecks

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

The better comparison is that distros are the operating systems (like "windows", "macos", and "android"), while "linux" is the kernel under the hood that end users likely never interact with (like "NT", "XNU", and..."linux").

A distro represents an intended user experience. If you want a distro that has an intended user experience that is similar to windows, go with Mint or OpenSUSE. If your desired experience is like the SteamDeck, install bazzite (with an AMD GPU ideally). If that's all you care to know, then that's all you need to know; go use your new system how you would any other.

But if you want to dig deeper, yeah, the fact that all the distros are based on linux (and more importantly, are posix compatible) means that a lot of the software is portable across distros. But that doesn't mean your experience on all distros will be the same. Different distros organize their filesystems differently, they might ship with different versions of core utilities based on the stability testing they've done, and they likely offer varying means of installing and managing new packages.

The tl;dr is, go use one distro, and then later try doing the same stuff in a different distro, and inevitably at some point you'll go "oh, this didn't work exactly how I expected because the other distro I'm used to handles this differently". That's the difference.

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Lettuce eat lettuce

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

You're on the right track. Linux technically refers to the kernel, the low-level core of the operating system that everything else interacts with and is built on top of. Distros are just collections of components that have been standardized by some group or company.

Linux Mint is heavily customized Ubuntu with a different DE and all of Connonical's stuff removed. Nobara is a gaming-focused distro built on Fedora with a bunch of kernel modifications and pre-installed software to help games run better. CatchyOS is just Arch but with a really friendly installer that allows less advanced users to still enjoy many of the heavy customizations and cutting-edge software of Arch, etc etc.

Think of it like an engine. You can use the same engine in a bunch of different vehicles. You can also make modifications to the engine itself, but it will still essentially be the same engine.

The #1 rule for new Linux users, especially ones who aren't interested in becoming power users or tinkering with their OS, is if you're happy with your distro, stick with it.

There's no objective "correct" distro. The best distro for you is the distro that works and you feel comfortable with.

Lots of new users become worried that they are missing out on some major improvement in their experience of Linux or feel like they picked the "wrong" distro because some random user dissed it. Don't pay attention to that, if your distro does everything you need it to do and you enjoy using it, there's no reason to go looking for something better.

Now of course, there's nothing wrong with checking out other distros, and if you are somebody who likes to tinker with your setup and doesn't mind risking breaking things sometimes, then by all means, distro hop away. Almost all distros have a "live boot" option, which allows you to test the OS off of a flash drive without having to install it on your computer. It's a great way to quickly get the look and feel for a new distro without having to commit.

And of course, there are tons of Linux YouTubers who do reviews of distros, so you can watch those to also get an idea of the different options out there.

Because of the nature of FOSS and the linux ecosystem, you can make most distros look and feel just like any other, so that's always an option too.

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Jack_Burton

in reply to Lettuce eat lettuce • 4 settimane fa • •

This helps a lot, thank you. I've been feeling overwhelmed about making sure I pick the best distro and there's a lot of info bombardment. Additionally, I love this stuff so I know in a couple months there's a good chance I'll want to use another distro and I don't want to wipe everything again haha.

I use my PC for work, freelance audio production, voiceover, music, etc. I've been testing Ubuntu Studio on my laptop and it seems to be going ok so far (learning curve and lack of software aside) but I keep seeing people shoot down Ubuntu. Everyone seems to be talking about Bazzite and CachyOS but honestly I'm getting the impression they don't use Linux for much more than just gaming.

It all feels a little gate-keepy in ways and I got overwhelmed haha. Think I'll just keep chipping away with Ubuntu Studio and see if it'll do the trick for my main PC. Thanks again.

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Lettuce eat lettuce

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

I used Ubuntu Studio many years ago when I was going through an electronica phase lol. It worked fine for me.

Don't sweat it, there will always be the hot new distros on the block. Right now it's Bazzite, CatchyOS, and NixOS, back in the day there was Garuda, Arco Linux, Bunsen, MX Linux, and a ton of others. Some are still around, some are long gone. Doesn't mean they are bad distros, many of them are/were great, but don't choose a distro just because everybody is talking about it.

Plus, as you get more experience with Linux, the differences matter less and less. There are only a handful of package managers, and unless you have some very specific technical requirements, they all do the same thing and work the same way.

"apt install firefox" becomes "yum install firefox", or "pacman -S firefox" it's all pretty much the same under the hood.

And if you use KDE Plasma on different distros, the Discover store works the same across distros, same with any other GUI package installer.

If you keep getting better and get into home lab building or just have several different computers, you might end up using a bunch or distros at the same time on different machines.

Right now across all my physical computers and virtual machines in my home lab, I currently have 9 different distros installed on various machines. Different distros for different purposes.

My general #JustWorks laptops and VMs use Linux Mint, my hardcore gaming rig uses Nobara, my test junker laptops run Debian 13, Void Linux, and Arch for testing random software and messing around. For my Docker containers, I run Debian 12 as the base, for my Minecraft server, Ubuntu Server, my Steam Deck is SteamOS which is just Valve's heavily modified spin of Arch, and my main lab's Type-1 hypervisor is XCP-ng, which is basically Fedora under the hood.

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daggermoon

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

Just pick something with KDE Plasma and you'll be fine. Cachy, Debian, and Bazzite are all good.

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Green Wizard

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

IMO distros are just "how little work do I need to do before I get this to work the way I like?" You can make any distro work practically the same if you want it to.

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j_anthemion

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

IMO, coming from the systems administration side of Linux, the most significant difference was package management and availability.

RedHat and clones were very conservative and focused on services like web, database, etc. With IBM purchasing RHEL, many switched to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is also favored by devs because the packages were more up to date.

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biocoder.ronin

in reply to j_anthemion • 4 settimane fa • •

Hi, request for comment: how do you feel about GNU guix? Is this the future of package management we wanted?

I've used RedHat and Ubuntu and Arch primarily because of the package ecosystem, and security is definitely major concern for most sysadmins (I am not one).

Is guix going to be the future? Thanks

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JamBandFan1996

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

From a new users perspective, a lot of the main ones will probably feel very similar and the main difference you'd notice is stability and compatibility. Don't overwhelm yourself with choices, just choose a easy to use, high user base, well supported distro to start on (Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint) and if you don't like it move to something else later

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Jack_Burton

in reply to JamBandFan1996 • 4 settimane fa • •

Appreciate it. I've decided to stick with Ubuntu Studio as long as I can duplicate my workflow before I make the switch. Think I got into my own head and indecision took over haha.

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JTskulk

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

These days the things that really differentiate distros are: installer, default desktop environment, packaging, packages.

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Squizzy

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

As someone completely new and stupid it feels like the desktop environment is the only difference I will ever notice. I was just about to move to bazzite and poke around until I realised the example and what I was picturing were just gnome.

At least I know im stupid.

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thedeadwalking4242

in reply to Squizzy • 4 settimane fa • •

There are some major differences starting to stir. I.E atomic distros Nixos and guix. But beyond that it’s all package manager differences. Some less popular OSs will have different init systems but that’s really about it

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Bronstein_Tardigrade

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

Been using Linux for 20+ years, and I've found it is the Desktop Environment that matters the most to me. It is the part with which I have daily contact. I have a PC running Debian, another running Fedora, a laptop with openSUSE, all with the same DE. My wife runs PCLOS with a different DE on her laptop, so I instantly revert to the CL rather than spend time searching for stuff.

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Jason

in reply to Bronstein_Tardigrade • 4 settimane fa • •

I'm in the same boat as OP. I just don't understand why one distro over another. I guess the next questions would be - what made you choose Debian for one PC and Fedora for the other? Do you find that openSUSE works better on a laptop than other distros? If the experience is the same, why not have them all the same distro? Do you just choose a distro on a whim? Roll a dice? Flip a coin?

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Bronstein_Tardigrade

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My Fedora PC was 8 years old so the wife bought me a new box for my birthday. I loaded Debian on a whim and now I'm too lazy to switch to Fedora. The laptop has always been my experimental machine where I try different distros. The wife first started her Linux journey with PCLOS/KDE and sees no reason to switch.

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Wren

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

Really they all work the same as long as they're based on the same OS. I've done a lot of distro hopping and the only real difference I've seen is the desktop environment, package managers(sometimes), and pre-installed applications.

Even then, all of these can be changed. I would suggest picking a distro that best suits your needs by default and then add what you need from there.

I personally have been really happy with Linux Mint.

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Debian +openbox is Mighty

This is not a tutorial. This is a way.

Debian +OpenBox is (a) the way. My system is a lenovo p53s laptop; nvidia remains unused because I only play Nexuiz, if I do. Yesterday I had a couple minutes so I downloaded a new trixie netinstaller iso and burn'd it to a usb stick, to which I booted into immediately, for the installing.

You can simply hold the enter key down and proceed through the installer and be magically booted into debian, if you like. Don't do that, though, that's crazy, and, I'm lying. Change these: networking, partitions, software. Networking is no big deal to mess with, or not, I use ethernet, so, I use a static local IP, therefore I don't allow the installer to auto-negotiate anything. Only occasionally do I use wifi, I act accordingly when I need it. Let it auto if you like, it's cool.

Root is allowed, absolutely.

I have a separate /home partition and I like it that way - do the same, smile later when it hits you. I have an nvme drive and I use ext4, with discard and noatime, for the root partition and xfs for /home, with noatime. ANd when the installer gets to (tasksel) the software part of the show, I uncheck everything other than typical system stuff, near the bottom. Do the same.

Installing debian is simple, clean, and fast. Upon rebooting there is nothing but a prompt if you do it this way, which, is the correct way. Let's build-up the sexy real quick.

I log in as root and install sudo and aptitude, which I have not added to kevin, for reasons. Then, still as root, I: visudo, and add my user beneath the existing root user down the file:

me ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL

Then I log out of root and in as me to run the kevin bash script which installs the stuff I need to maintain penultimate level boredom. I run it like: sudo kevin.sh - Here's the guts to kevin, probably with some redundancy:

#!/bin/bash

# check root

[ "$(id -u)" -ne 0 ] && { echo "Must run as root" 1>&2; exit 1; }

# Install packages

echo -e "\e[1mInstalling packages...\e[0m"

[ "$(find /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin -mtime 0 2>/dev/null)" ] || apt-get update

apt-get -y install xorg openbox lxpanel thunar thunar-archive-plugin intel-microcode claws-mail polkitd xinit intel-media-va-driver-non-free va-driver-all

apt-get -y install curl feh bat lsd diodon nvtop unclutter numlockx wget whois mesa-utils mesa-va-drivers mpg123 alsa-utils ffmpeg bc jq libnotify-bin mc lshw lsof ncal ncdu inxi psmisc s-tui sed cpufetch dfc sysstat tar unzip zip x11-xserver-utils htop apt-utils at upower pwgen usbutils vnstat xpdf oxygencursors gpicview jpegoptim libimage-exiftool-perl

apt-get -y install tango-icon-theme keepassxc dbus-x11 lxappearance obsession scrot gvfs-backends arandr menu menu-xdg pnmixer bogofilter bleachbit gifsicle

apt-get -y install geany geany-plugins claws-mail-bogofilter lynx alacritty claws-mail-fancy-plugin claws-mail-pgpmime claws-mail-tools claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-vcalendar-plugin

apt-get -y install rsync fastfetch cpufetch cbatticon xscreensaver gpicview xscreensaver-gl xscreensaver-gl-extra fd-find libxml2-utils starship pulseaudio

apt-get -y install meld mintstick ips seahorse tldr mpv net-tools neverputt gnome-characters gparted pkexec xclip gsimplecal

apt-get -y install hwinfo iftop imagemagick acpi lm-sensors python3-pexpect pwgen s-tui sensible-utils catfish iotop pithos

apt-get -y install xdg-user-dirs-gtk xdg-utils xdotool unzip usbutils util-linux vym yelp zenity zip silversearcher-ag galternatives

apt-get -y install planner libreoffice libreoffice-gtk3 xfce4-screenshooter smartmontools gimp obsidian-icon-theme orage gmrun synaptic yad zim bashtop grc duf

I have a smoke as kevin does its thing. I arrive back at the prompt, system installed.

I do more:

sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-file-manager x-file-manager /usr/bin/thunar 210

sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-text-editor x-text-editor /usr/bin/subl 210

sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator x-terminal-emulator /usr/bin/alacritty 210

I might use kitty instead, which is usual

sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata

I have saved stuff:

sudo cp -R .local/share/fonts/* /usr/share/fonts/

sudo cp -R .local/share/themes/* /usr/share/themes/

sudo cp -R .local/share/icons/Dracula/ /usr/share/icons/

curl -s 'https://liquorix.net/install-liquorix.sh' | sudo bash

echo "vm.dirty_background_ratio=20" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf

echo "vm.dirty_ratio=60" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf

I might change swappiness, too

put the following in /etc/fstab:

tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

tmpfs /var/spool tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults,noatime,mode=1777 0 0

I like the following 3 proggys so:

sublime text:

wget -qO - https://download.sublimetext.com/sublimehq-pub.gpg | sudo tee /etc/apt/keyrings/sublimehq-pub.asc > /dev/null

echo -e 'Types: deb\nURIs: https://download.sublimetext.com//nSuites: apt/stable/\nSigned-By: /etc/apt/keyrings/sublimehq-pub.asc' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sublime-text.sources

Then, update and install sublime.

firefox:

wget -q https://packages.mozilla.org/apt/repo-signing-key.gpg -O- | sudo tee /etc/apt/keyrings/packages.mozilla.org.asc > /dev/null

echo "deb [signed-by=/etc/apt/keyrings/packages.mozilla.org.asc] https://packages.mozilla.org/apt mozilla main" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla.list > /dev/null

update, install firefox

phoenix:

echo 'deb https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/celenity/Debian_12/ /' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:celenity.list

wget -O- https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:celenity/Debian_12/Release.key 2>/dev/null | gpg --dearmor | sudo tee /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/home_celenity.gpg > /dev/null

update, install phoenix

I add:

eval "$(starship init bash)"

to root .bashrc, for the pretty.

I install loginfetch from marcov's script, sans physlock:

script is here, unmodified.

I remove the following after installing the sexy: exim*, xdg-desktop-portal, and xdg-desktop-portal-gtk

I modify /etc/default/grub thusly:

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet mitigations=off"

You may want to leave grub alone.

randomly, when I log into a gui, I: sudo lxappearance and choose to make root apps comply.

I have a wicked: ~/.bashrc and also: ~/.bash_aliases, ~/.bash_functions. My: ~/.config/openbox rc.xml and menu.xml are fully tweaked and wicked, my ~/bin dir is full of handy scripts; I want for nothing. Firefox opens in ~ a second with win+b, which is the slowest app to open. I maintain: starship, kitty, et al. config files. I back stuff up to a usb stick with a handy rsync alias.

This has been my desktop for ~ 20 years - completely reliable and functional top'd with kill-me-now boring.

debian-openbox/script_loginfetch/install.sh at master · leomarcov/debian-openbox

Script to install a full Openbox environment on Debian - leomarcov/debian-openbox

^GitHub

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ehyuman

in reply to bubbalouie • 4 settimane fa • •

who fears hackers if you hack yourself

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youmaynotknow

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Shit, and I just finished my quarterly distro-hop run last weekend. Now I have to take this for a spin 🤣🤣

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EnteAuth (and a bunch of other FOSS) take Microsoft's "free" money

cross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/51040952

I'm moving away from using products by big tech and I recently started using EnteAuth for 2FA. Today I got an email from them saying that they received money as part of GitHub's secure open source fund. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I do not like this at all. Microsoft is not altruistic I don't care what anyone says. There has to be an ulterior motive for this. With even the recent news that github won't be so independent anymore and they're getting folded into the Microsoft umbrella this has me worried. But let's be real github was never independent just look at copilot being forced down everyone's throat. That's why I personally stopped using it.

According to the fund

Throughout this program, each project receives $10,000 USD via GitHub Sponsors (which breaks down to $6,000 USD during the sprint and $2,000 USD at 6- and 12-month security check-ins). Projects are also invited to a new security focused community, and office hours with the GitHub Security Lab, that they can take advantage of during the full 12 months. They also receive security resources to immediately implement in their project and Azure credits for cloud infrastructure.

Those sponsors include

Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, American Express, Chainguard, Datadog, Herodevs, Kraken, Mayfield, Microsoft, Shopify, Stripe, Superbloom, Vercel, Zerodha, 1Password

Projects that are part of this even include nodejs, nvm, log4j, JUnit, and Matplotlib. Taking cybersecurity seriously is great but this just seems like a way to sucker them into their ecosystem to get them dependent on their products. Like I said maybe I'm being paranoid but I wouldn't be surprise when Microsoft suddenly buys these projects and we lose what made them so great.

Securing the supply chain at scale: Starting with 71 important open source projects - The GitHub Blog

Learn how the GitHub Secure Open Source Fund helped 71 open source projects significantly improve their security posture.

^{Kevin Crosby (The GitHub Blog)}

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just_another_person

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You may as well just stop using computers all together, bud 🤣

I don't mean to ruin your world view, but there are no ways to run anything you want to run by focusing on "altruistic companies", however you may subjectively define that.

Look, you're focusing on the wrong thing here. Maybe you didn't know this, but the massive majority of FOSS projects get funded by companies - either for consulting, feature bounties, IC development - and is a main driving force for the ecosystem.

Many in this ecosystem would even tell you that every single project is massively UNDERfunded by said companies, and they should kick in more to help keep these projects secure and in good standing. They make billions and billions of dollars off people's work, and it surely seems they should kick some of that back to the projects.

Whatever Microsoft's involvement is here, it's not going to be changing the direction of any of the projects mentioned. If for some reason something untoward starts happening with any project: boom, fork and new community. It's that simple.

In short, these people getting funding for their work is a good thing. If you take issue with who is providing that money, you're going to be digging a deep, deep hole in your research, and if you're running down the dep chain, you'll find out that all of the things you use have some funding by companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, IBM, Red Hat, Amazon, Alibaba, Halliburton, Qualcomm...I could keep going on and on.

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WhyJiffie

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but there are no ways to run anything you want to run by focusing on "altruistic companies", however you may subjectively define that.

I think you misunderstood OP. their complaint is not that these projects should search an altruistic donor... but that Microsoft is suspicious in doing this, because arguably they rarely have good intentions.

Whatever Microsoft's involvement is here, it's not going to be changing the direction of any of the projects mentioned.

let's hope so

If for some reason something untoward starts happening with any project: boom, fork and new community. It's that simple.

easier said than done.

In short, these people getting funding for their work is a good thing.

I think OP (and me too) is worried about the terms. like, can these projects abandon github without repercussions? can they start using another code forge in parallel?

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just_another_person

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Uhhh, repercussions like what? They're getting small amounts of money for specific work. Up front. What repurcussions could there be for project moving to Gitlab, for instance?

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WhyJiffie

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Uhhh, repercussions like what?

sudden closure of donated azure services without prior notification and time to move off.

having to pay back some of the money.

the project planning with the promised donations as a given (they don't get all of it upfront, but as they get the most of it it's actually fair) and microsoft either using it as leverage or just carelessly terminating the contract to save money.

in extreme case banning the project from microsoft owned services, including github.

any of that in decreasing order of probability if implementation is different from expected (like not baking in specific security tools to the project) and the parties cannot agree on a solution.

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WhyJiffie

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Uhhh, repercussions like what?

sudden closure of donated azure services without prior notification and time to move off.

having to pay back some of the money.

in extreme case banning the project from microsoft owned services, including github.

any of that in decreasing order of probability if implementation is different from expected (like not baking in specific security tools to the project) and the parties cannot agree on a solution.

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just_another_person

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They're payments for work services.

You listen to Joe Rogan, don't you...

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WhyJiffie

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oh and I must also live in texas, right?

I wouldn't even recognize their voice or face.

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kennedy

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yes exactly, my problem is not the money. I don't expect these project to always be free and I support those I can, sponsorship is good. These giant tech firms have used free projects all the time to make money without providing any support so its fine that they're supporting them. My problem is that I do not trust Microsoft at all.

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orclev

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In terms of the open source community Microsoft has been significantly less sketchy than usual for about a decade now. For those of us that are old enough to remember the halloween files it's hard to let go of that paranoia, particularly with the sketchy shit MS has been doing with their proprietary stuff lately, but near as I can tell they've been above board on their open source stuff.

I wouldn't go so far as to say blindly trust them at this point, but I wouldn't just assume with no evidence at all that there has to be something nefarious going on either.

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kennedy

in reply to orclev • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I've never heard of the Halloween files I just looked it up and that's just so crazy. I don't know what's going on behind closed doors in their c-suite but I wouldn't be surprised if this fund is a way to get their hands into open source projects. Like you said there's no explicit proof so it's best to be cautious.

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Cris

in reply to kennedy • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Whether it's good or bad is not determined by the fact that it's corporate money, but how that money impacts development, the devil's in the details, not just in a company donating lots of money.

Open source in general is very dependent on corporate sponsors. The linux kernel wouldn't exist had companies not invested in it.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess the potential pitfalls here, so I will be cautious but not paranoid, and continue to pay attention to discussions on how FOSS projects are run 🤷‍♂️

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New Zealand woman and six-year-old son detained for three weeks by Ice in US enduring ‘terrifying’ ordeal

A New Zealand woman who is being held at a US immigration centre with her six-year-old son after they were detained crossing the Canada-US border, is being wrongly “treated like a criminal”, according to her friend and advocate.

Sarah Shaw, 33, a New Zealander who has lived in Washington state for just over three years, dropped her two eldest children to Vancouver airport on 24 July, so they could take a direct flight back to New Zealand for a holiday with their grandparents.

When Shaw attempted to re-enter the US, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) detained her and her youngest son, in what was a “terrifying” ordeal, said Victoria Besancon, Shaw’s friend who is helping to raise money for her legal fight.

“Sarah thought she was being kidnapped,” she said. “They didn’t really explain anything to her at first, they just kind of quietly took her and her son and immediately put them in like an unmarked white van.”

New Zealand woman and six-year-old son detained for three weeks by Ice in US enduring ‘terrifying’ ordeal

Sarah Shaw, who has a US visa and lives in Washington state, was detained after attempting to re-enter US from Canada

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Sarah Shaw, who has a US visa and lives in Washington state, was detained after attempting to re-enter US from Canada

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Surrey police pose as joggers to catch men harassing women out exercising

Eighteen people have been arrested after a police force sent out female undercover officers posing as joggers to catch men harassing women while they are out exercising.

A pilot operation from Surrey police deployed female officers in running gear during rush hour to expose how often women are harassed. The pilot has resulted in 18 arrests for offences such as harassment, sexual assault and theft.

Surrey police pose as joggers to catch men harassing women out exercising

Undercover female officers deployed in pilot scheme to tackle catcalling, resulting in 18 arrests

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Lithuania to give children drone training to counter Russia threat

Children in Lithuania are to be taught how to build and operate drones as part of the small Baltic country’s efforts to build capacity to deal with any future threat from Russia.

In a joint initiative by the defence and education ministries, the government said on Tuesday it hoped to teach more than 22,000 people, including schoolchildren, drone skills as part of an attempt to “expand civil resistance training”.

The programme would be adapted to different age groups, with third- and fourth-grade students of between eight and 10 years old learning to build and pilot simple drones, the government said. Secondary school students will design and manufacture drone parts and learn how to build and fly advanced drones.

Lithuania to give children drone training to counter Russia threat

Government aims to teach 22,000 people, including children as young as eight, how to build and operate drones

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The Western media is complicit in Israel’s murder of Palestinian journalist Anas al-Sharif

I still remember the day Shireen Abu Akleh was martyred. My mother called me crying. She had grown up watching Shireen, who was an invited guest into her home every day while she lived in Palestine. I remember when my mom called me after Israel dropped their first bomb in Gaza, the same tears, a different type of violence. And yesterday, my mom called me again to talk about Anas. Anas al-Sharif’s voice was one I’ve come to intimately know over the last two years, and one we will never hear again. Because, like the almost 300 journalists in Gaza that Israel has killed, Anas represented the truth. And truth is a threat to Israel.

For 22 months, the international community has watched Israel systematically murder journalists and called it acceptable losses in a just war. Nearly 300 media workers have been killed, the deadliest conflict for journalists in recorded history. Yet the world’s response has been to write strongly worded letters while shipping more weapons. Where are the sanctions that followed Russia’s invasion? Where are the war crimes tribunals that prosecuted Rwandan generals? Where is the global media solidarity that should transcend borders and politics? Apparently that only exists when the victims are not Palestinian.

Under Article 79 of Additional Protocol I to the Geneva Conventions, journalists are explicitly protected as civilians in armed conflict zones. Intentionally directing attacks against civilians, including journalists, constitutes a war crime under the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and amounts to grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions. The law is clear. The crime is obvious. But, Israel has transformed every Palestinian journalist into a “legitimate target” by simply calling them terrorists first.

The Western media is complicit in Israel’s murder of Palestinian journalist Anas al-Sharif

Israel murdered Anas al-Sharif and his colleagues because genocide can only proceed without witnesses. Western media outlets have failed to condemn the systematic murder of Palestinian journalists, and in the process have become accomplices.

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The Western media is complicit in Israel’s murder of Palestinian journalist Anas al-Sharif

Israel murdered Anas al-Sharif and his colleagues because genocide can only proceed without witnesses. Western media outlets have failed to condemn the systematic murder of Palestinian journalists, and in the process have become accomplices.

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The Western media is complicit in Israel’s murder of Palestinian journalist Anas al-Sharif

Israel murdered Anas al-Sharif and his colleagues because genocide can only proceed without witnesses. Western media outlets have failed to condemn the systematic murder of Palestinian journalists, and in the process have become accomplices.

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themeatbridge

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It's probably better to be more specific than "The Western Media." Remaining generic makes it easier to handwave the criticism and point fingers elsewhere. Sympathetic voices inside of Western media nod along and think "Yes, not me, but others."

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It's all one giant conglomerate. There are barely any non-government ran Western media.

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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34601933

Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT

She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT
She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says
Francesca Albanese, UN special rapporteur for the occupied territories, calls for practical actions and warns against distracting ‘attention from where it should be: the genocide’
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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

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Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT

She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT
She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says
Francesca Albanese, UN special rapporteur for the occupied territories, calls for practical actions and warns against distracting ‘attention from where it should be: the genocide’
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Those countries be like see we support a palestinian state but yoy know hamas is the problem not the occupation so we need to continue to support the so called isrsel right to defend itself, keep doing military and economical cooperation

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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT

She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Francesca Albanese, UN special rapporteur for the occupied territories, calls for practical actions and warns against distracting ‘attention from where it should be: the genocide’

^{Alice Speri (The Guardian)}

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Germany: ING Bank to introduce Wero this month

Bezahldienst: Bezahlen in Echtzeit: ING führt Paypal-Konkurrent Wero ein

Frankfurt/Main - Der noch junge europäische Paypal-Konkurrent Wero bekommt weitere Unterstützung: Europas größte Direktbank ING will den Bezahldienst

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"I support it only if it's open source" should be a more common viewpoint

What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?

"I support it only if it's open source" should be a more common viewpoint

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Endymion_Mallorn

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I love the thought, but it the thinking behind it is very utopian. It doesn't match the real world. In my experience, if a company can't make all of the profit from a thing they invest in, they simply won't invest. I wish that wasn't the case, but it's what I've seen. The C-Suite and management would rather make 100% profit from living in the dark ages compared to "just" 99% of the profit from pushing the world forward.

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Leon

in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

but it the thinking behind it is very utopian

I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Things don’t have to be realistic to be aspirational. It’s a bigger problem when people give up because improvement isn’t realistic or deemed necessary by comparison to some other factor.

Saw it a lot here. People would be all “sure our healthcare isn’t great but at least we’re not like the U.S.” as the rightwingers bit by bit enshittified the entire system.

A utopia is what we should aim for. What’s the point of anything less?

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Zorque

in reply to Leon • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

There's a difference between being realistic and being pessimistic. The latter expects any attempt to fail, while the former seeks an attainable path to a goal.

One can not attain that utopian vision without setting realistic goals. Setting your eyes on the end game without ever focusing on the path to get there is dooming yourself to failure.

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HarkMahlberg

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Fuck Vitalik Buterin.

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ClownsInSpace2

in reply to HarkMahlberg • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Damn, why?

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ThrowawayPermanente

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He's the founder of a major cryptocurrency project, Ethereum

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tabular

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Open source can refer to MIT licensed code/projects where it can be taken, modified and redistributed as proprietary software without giving back. You can't contribute without wondering if you're doing work for a mega corp.

I would be temped to argue that doesn't go far enough. If copyleft wasn't circumvented by AI I'd argue for that.

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Badabinski

in reply to tabular • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I think a new GPL needs to be created to account for this. Like, "any generative system using this as an input which can ever replicate this code base (even in part), must be bound to this license." People could then run overfitting analysis to see if they ever get their copyleft code out of the model. If they do, then they have grounds to sue. I'm fine with an LLM being trained on my code, but I want the four freedoms to be preserved if it is.

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MudMan

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Heh. It's a very software-centric view. Open source trivializes things that can run as software on readily available hardware, but if there's a linear relationship between cost of hardware/manufacture and results you aren't solving much of the gatekeeping. There's plenty of open source availability for a lot of stuff, from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts. The problem isn't the underlying reproduction rights.

I will say this, I don't care about what the author or anybody else "supports". If we should have learned something from the last decade or two is that "support" means jack shit.

I care about regulation. And just like I think education, transportation, medical patents, health care and other key resources should be fundamentally public by law, the same is true of other technologies.

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piefood

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"...from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts"

As someone that self-hosts those things, both professionally and personally, I'm gonna have to disagree. I wish more did, but there are plenty of self-hosters out there, they just don't get headlines.

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MudMan

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I self host those, too.

I am nobody in the scale of this conversation.

I think there's a business opportunity in simplifying self hosting into a commodity (have your people call my people, we'll talk), but nobody is taking advantage of it other than, say, Synology, and they are still way too complicated and mostly only concerned with selling you hard drives.

Apple and Google aren't going to invent the iNAS or the Servoor until they can find a path to datamining and revenue in those that beats hosting things themselves, and that time is probably never. So while everybody uses Gmail and Facetime and ChatGPT nobody selfhosts.

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LainTrain

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I agree.

Even more broadly, politically - copyleft in general is very unpopular with people, even amongst leftists and self-identified communists who you'd think would be all about that since y'know, good of the commons and the fact that communist states literally didn't give a fuck about copyright and the literature seeing it transparently as another government method of enforcing corporate power, especially apparent today when it comes to pharmaceuticals snd the fact that capitalism needs this intellectual property monopoly as an added incentive for R&D is an issue with capitalism's broken incentive structures, not cost in and of itself or science/technology.

Few people seem to understand the power of intellectual property, and various critics of corporate technology either omit mentioning or openly defend intellectual property, despite corporations having monopolies being the reason enshittification is such a phenomenon in the first place.

It seems like a lot of arguments about the role of technology in society instead boil down to more-stuffism vs. less-stuffism, usually based on emotionally charged preference for modern aesthetics or how much they believe the noble savage/appeal to nature fallacies.

When it comes to AI for instance, anyone reasonable can see that if it's open sourced for everyone to use then it's just a simple common good like a public library, use it (responsibly) and there's no issue.

Closed source private models in use by corporations suck up the environment (which belongs to everyone) and use the capital they steal from wage workers who actually produce the things they sell to give themselves leverage over said consumers/workers and other corporations, and this is not fair to the 99%.

Picture a world where AI is good enough to where it actually provides value to use it in a good chunk of jobs, and the best AI is corporate and closed source, and they just enshittified it and jacked up the prices, but if you want to get a job, you better know how to use it well. It would mean that corpo has an enormous power over your life now and you got little choice but to pony up, and they can raise prices whenever they want and snowball that capital into more and more.

I think the reason in this instance is that a lot of artists are bourgeoisie themselves and they understand that. They may be progressive as a personality trait/gimmick/style and talk about "empathy" but they understand the material reality of things.

They had the opportunities and the room for failure necessary to go into such a high risk field, and their ultimate form of commercial success is essentially using that privilege to create intellectual property they could make money from, hence the "concerns" over "style theft" and moralist fearmongering over vaguely defined concepts like "soulless", which is usually as arbitrary as "white" for racists (not implying equivalence here).

I find generally that a lot of the anti-AI viewpoints are simple self-serving veils of bourgeoisie who's capital is threatened, no different from the culture war fearmongering about vaping, a dying grasp of the tobacco companies of old threatened by shenzen gadget slop factories.

The material reality is that digital goods are effectively infinite, copying an image isn't a crime nevermind copying a style or some such, it is transparently absurd to imply otherwise.

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Other

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I generally agree with the first part of your post but I feel you have a weird hang up on artists. Most artist didn't go to school for art, most artists are simply self taught.

The bare minimum cost of being an artist is a pencil and paper. And although their way of combating it with appeals to copyright is regressive. It comes from a place of desperation because at the end of the day they are laborers. And I've come to find that many tech people tend to diminish artists as laborers.

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themeatbridge

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"I only eat food that's free."

I fully support open source software, but it's not feasible under the current economic system to expect everyone to exclusively contribute to open source projects.

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Semperverus

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You are allowed to charge money for open source.

Its the recipe that makes the food you're eating that would need to be publicly available and free to redistribute.

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Sckharshantallas

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You’re allowed, but as long as anyone else can do it for free, you can’t build a business model on selling it. At most you can sell something else (support, cloud compute, some solution that makes using it easier etc.).

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hperrin

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I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. What you said is true.

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NukeNPave

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Canonical seems to make some decent money off of their services.

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themeatbridge

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It's not a perfect metaphor.

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chunkystyles

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None are.

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CriticalMiss

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Technically, according to the GPLv3 you don’t need to make the source code publically available. If you sell software with binaries then their source code must be included with it. If you’re Red Hat you can also add an additional ToS to the website that states if you buy the software you can’t freely distribute the source code you download from the website or you will be sued to oblivion.

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Alex

in reply to CriticalMiss • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

You must make the source available to anyone you distributed the binaries to. Where in Red Hats TOS does it say they will sue you? As far as I understand it the reserve the right to terminate the service you are paying for. But your rights to source for the binaries provided are not affected.

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hperrin

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Yep, you sure are. You also can’t stop someone from forking it and giving it away for free. See: Red Hat Enterprise Linux and AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, etc.

Money in open source is one of the biggest hurdles to it becoming the norm. IMHO, governments should fund more open source projects and fund them at higher levels. We have art grants because art improves society, and we should have an equal or higher amount of open source grants because open source improves society too.

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sibachian

in reply to hperrin • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

many governments are currently trying to tear down art grants aren't they tho?

the majority keep voting for the people trying to break everything and get shocked when it breaks.

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Jean-luc Peak-hard

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Bitwarden and Cryptpad. Both open source and self hostable, yet I pay for both. paying for open source is possible.

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sibachian

in reply to Jean-luc Peak-hard • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

i stopped paying for cryptpad when they stopped building their own software and started peddling the utter garbage that is onlyoffice.

i asked them a few years ago if they are planning to build something new and they just said why build when there are things like onlyoffice already available.

sigh.

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Novaling

in reply to Jean-luc Peak-hard • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

He never said paying for open source projects is impossible, obviously we have the ability pay. It's the expecting EVERYONE to drop money on every FOSS project that's infeasible. That shit ads up.

It's the same issue that PeerTube has, people making free content with no ads, but they aren't guaranteed payment. I'm not about to pay $5 per month on Patreon for every creator that I like, cause that's just not sustainable.

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Phoenixz

in reply to themeatbridge • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I don't mind paying for software.

I want free as in freedom, not free as in beer. Though a free beer might not be the worst thing in the world

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themeatbridge

in reply to Phoenixz • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Sure, and I recognize that it's not a great metaphor. But I'm thinking about it from the developer side. Open Source software is not motivated by profits, and profit motivates a lot of developers. Some of the best software projects were actualized by a few committed individuals who were passionate about the purpose. But then you have Microsoft which tries to tie bonuses to lines of code, and ends up with bloated garbage because peoples is peoples.

Open source is good, in the same way free lunches for school children are good. The benefits are innumerable. But it's not feasible to expect every developer to commit to open source projects when their efforts might not be rewarded.

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HubertManne

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Its my way of thinking. From the ip perspective I can see peoples argument about profits and companies but for individuals you are likely to get your stuff stolen and used by companies. I mean look at ai training. So better to deny any company trying to claim your work is thiers. Added to that is the company technology that goes to the graveyard. Open source allows ones work to be immortal. Then from the user perspective we all know how controlling and privacy invasive proprietary software is.

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Cris

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How the world "should" respond to the thing we care about is an actively counter-productive thing to get hung up on.

Its much important how they do respond to it, and how we can reach those who don't connect with it

(And that doesn't just lecturing people and trying to brow beat them into caring about it, which seems like the default approach for a lot of foss folks 🥲 thats the opposite or reaching people, that's alienating them)

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hperrin

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I’m an open source developer who’s put thousands of hours of work into my open source projects.

Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining open source projects: $0
Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining closed source projects: idk exactly, but probably close to $1,000,000 (over ten years of working in big tech)

I get wanting to use open source software. I want to use open source software. I want to write open source software. I do write open source software. But please understand that I only do that because I enjoy it. I also need to pay the bills, and there’s not much money in writing open source software.

If you value an open source project, especially if it’s just a small development team that doesn’t sell anything, please donate to them.

Right now, I run an email service, port87.com/, and it is technically closed source. But it’s built on my open source projects, Svelte Material UI, Nymph.js, and Nephele. Probably about 70% of the code that makes up Port87 is open source, and if you use Port87, you’re helping me continue to develop those open source projects. So even if you don’t donate to open source projects, there are other ways to contribute. Support companies who support open source projects.

Port87

A new kind of email.

^port87.com

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Frezik

in reply to hperrin • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

This sort of thing can't really be done in capitalism at all. Open Source (as it was advanced by Eric S. Raymond and the Mozilla Project back in the late 90s) was always stuck in a capitalist way of thinking.

In a society where everyone has their basic needs met and people are expected to contribute what they can, writing FOSS can be your contribution.

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lustrum

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The early mobile phone apps conditioned people to expect things free.

I donate to any project, open or closed source if it's worth it.

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‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34601111

reprinted with an introduction by World-Outlook
August 11, 2025

“I read and translate testimonies of people who walk 7 kilometers each way in order lug a sack of flour weighing 30 kilos in this horrific heat. How can we even imagine that? The extreme heat is also playing a part.
“It’s terribly frightening because every time, you feel as if you’ve crossed another threshold from which it’s already impossible to return. For example, the erasure of #Gaza — there is no way back from that. What that means is, that even if the last soldier returns to Israel today and the Gaza Strip is opened to the world, we’re in a situation in which there is no way to exist in Gaza.”

Peter Link

2025-08-13 12:38:10

‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel

reprinted with an introduction by World-Outlook
August 11, 2025
“I read and translate testimonies of people who walk 7 kilometers each way in order lug a sack of flour weighing 30 kilos in this horrific heat. How can we even imagine that? The extreme heat is also playing a part.
“It’s terribly frightening because every time, you feel as if you’ve crossed another threshold from which it’s already impossible to return. For example, the erasure of #Gaza — there is no way back from that. What that means is, that even if the last soldier returns to Israel today and the Gaza Strip is opened to the world, we’re in a situation in which there is no way to exist in Gaza.”

‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel - World-Outlook
This was the lead article in the Israeli daily Haaretz on August 7, 2025. In an expansive interview this essay reports, Assaf David, provides a glimpse of the destructive impact on Israeli society today from Israel’s ongoing slaughter of Palestinians…
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#World

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givesomefucks

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And what everyone else means is the 1940s is still about 50 years too late...

It's started in the late 19th century, that means like the 1890s.

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jordanlund

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This has all the appearance of blogspam, they'te just regurgitating a legitimate news site.

If you can link to the orginal, that's allowed, this is not.

"The following was the lead article in the Israeli daily Haaretz on August 7, 2025"

Peter Link via Palestine

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‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/34601111

reprinted with an introduction by World-Outlook
August 11, 2025

“I read and translate testimonies of people who walk 7 kilometers each way in order lug a sack of flour weighing 30 kilos in this horrific heat. How can we even imagine that? The extreme heat is also playing a part.
“It’s terribly frightening because every time, you feel as if you’ve crossed another threshold from which it’s already impossible to return. For example, the erasure of #Gaza — there is no way back from that. What that means is, that even if the last soldier returns to Israel today and the Gaza Strip is opened to the world, we’re in a situation in which there is no way to exist in Gaza.”

Peter Link

2025-08-13 12:38:10

‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel

reprinted with an introduction by World-Outlook
August 11, 2025
“I read and translate testimonies of people who walk 7 kilometers each way in order lug a sack of flour weighing 30 kilos in this horrific heat. How can we even imagine that? The extreme heat is also playing a part.
“It’s terribly frightening because every time, you feel as if you’ve crossed another threshold from which it’s already impossible to return. For example, the erasure of #Gaza — there is no way back from that. What that means is, that even if the last soldier returns to Israel today and the Gaza Strip is opened to the world, we’re in a situation in which there is no way to exist in Gaza.”

‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel - World-Outlook
This was the lead article in the Israeli daily Haaretz on August 7, 2025. In an expansive interview this essay reports, Assaf David, provides a glimpse of the destructive impact on Israeli society today from Israel’s ongoing slaughter of Palestinians…
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#Palestine

Peter Link via World News

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Peter Link
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‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel

reprinted with an introduction by World-Outlook
August 11, 2025

“I read and translate testimonies of people who walk 7 kilometers each way in order lug a sack of flour weighing 30 kilos in this horrific heat. How can we even imagine that? The extreme heat is also playing a part.
“It’s terribly frightening because every time, you feel as if you’ve crossed another threshold from which it’s already impossible to return. For example, the erasure of #Gaza — there is no way back from that. What that means is, that even if the last soldier returns to Israel today and the Gaza Strip is opened to the world, we’re in a situation in which there is no way to exist in Gaza.”

‘Jewish Jihad’ Has Seized Control of Israel - World-Outlook

This was the lead article in the Israeli daily Haaretz on August 7, 2025. In an expansive interview this essay reports, Assaf David, provides a glimpse of the destructive impact on Israeli society today from Israel’s ongoing slaughter of Palestinians…

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How language is hiding the real internet from you

Most of the internet is out of your reach, but the barrier isn't just algorithms. In another language, the same platforms turn into to whole other worlds.

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Groundhoig via Privacy

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Dutch Signal Group

Today we started a Dutch group on Signal. Do you like to share your knowledge and experience with other Dutch speakers? Then join our group via the link: signal.group/#CjQKIBGAZH8kgzbC…

Signal Messenger Group

Follow this link to join a group on Signal Messenger.

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dysprosium

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Sounds like a scam

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foremanguy

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Look the OP has this account created 2 hours ago, and posted this right after, sure it is

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SMplayer...jitter? Slightly choppy framerate

Hi guys!
So...I have a beefy AMD PC, CPU AMD 7700, GPU 7800XT 16GB, 32GB RAM. Maybe not top of the line, but definitely capable of playing about any kind of video. Well...not with SMPlayer! I get a slightly choppy playback. Like, if the movie being played is 24.97FPS, it feels to be playing at...23FPS? It's hard to tell as there's no obvious proof of what I'm saying. It's usually ok on normal dialog scenes, but super noticeable when the the camera pans around. It can be very distracting.

But VLC on default settings plays the same file consistently better, no noticeable jitter. This applies to about any 1080p/4K file. Also not crazy bandwidth nor anything, a bit under 2GB for 1h worth of video on most TV shows.
SMPlayer uses video output driver - GPU, and in Performance, hardware decoding is set to Auto. I've toyed with several of these settings (vdpau, vulkan, wayland-copy...about anything available in the lists), to no avail. I have checked both with mplayer or mpv as multimedia engine (by default it's specified as 'other' and then the /usr/bin/mpv). Either option has differences, but still get the same...choppy playback. Any idea of what could be wrong? I have no clue on how to troubleshoot this.
I'm using NobaraLinux (Fedora 42, KDE plasma edition).

EDIT: It seems to be refresh rate. The videos are 24, or 24.97FPS, and that doesn't convert well to 60Hz. If depending on the video file I change the output to the TV to 24Hz or 50Hz (I don't have 25 nor 40Hz) then the playback seems perfectly smooth. My follow-up question would be, how can I do this automatically from SMPlayer? Is there a way it either adjusts the screen refresh rate, or interpolates the playback FPS to account for the existing refresh rate?

#linux

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anon5621

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U definitely not enabled hard acceleration in settings choose auto-safe in the list

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iturnedintoanewt

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As i said, it is enabled. I tested it and it runs fine. But it jitters. Even with acceleration off, this computer is more than capable of playing video off of the cpu and not dropping a single frame.

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geneva_convenience via Manufacturing Consent

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geneva_convenience
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After finding zero evidence of Hamas rape and a UN investigation absolving Hamas of using rape, Hamas is added to the UN rape list

This one is insane

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geneva_convenience via Palestine

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geneva_convenience
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Israeli controlled UN will add Hamas to blacklist of groups that commit sexual violence as weapon of war without any evidence

After the Dinah Project ~~revealed~~ falsified dozens of testimonies of rape, sexual assault and intentional mutilation on October 7 and against hostages, the UN secretary-general will add the terrorist organization to the list of perpetrators of sexual violence in wars; draft report to be presented to the Security Council also contains warning that Israel may be included on list

https://archive.is/sKiu0

#Palestine

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mrdown

in reply to geneva_convenience • 1 mese fa • •

Is israel or even the settlers orgs on the terrorist list?

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geneva_convenience

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There are a few companies on the UN blacklist. But these falsified rape allegations of which the UN and Israel have no evidence are primarily so that countries can smear smear Hamas and prevent organizations such as UNRWA from working with the government of Gaza to help Palestinians.

The UN is directly committing genocide with this designation

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kosherbacon79 via Linux

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Free select screenshot tool for Pop

Hi all. New to Linux, just installed Pop yesterday. I'm trying to find a screenshot tool which allows freeform selection, something which was built into Windows via snipping tool. I've tried Flameshot, Shutter, and a half dozen other programs but either I'm blind or none of them have this functionality.

Can anyone recommend a program that does that? Thanks!

Edit:

Clarification: I want to be able to draw a shape, say a circle instead of a rectangle, and have the screenshot only be of what I've circled. Snipping Tool in Windows had this functionality, you could select that instead of a rectangle or square it would be freeform. I wanted to know if there was any Linux equivalent, because I haven't been able to find one on my own.

#linux

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the_weez

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Try flameshot.
Flameshot.org

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jbrains

in reply to kosherbacon79 • 1 mese fa • •

I use Spectacle for taking screenshots and I've enjoyed using it for several years. After that, I'd crop it in any image editor that has a freehand selector tool. Gimp would be the first thing I tried, but I'm sure you could find something easily enough.

scottsdaleattic via Technology

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Attic Insulation Installers: What You Need to Know for a More Comfortable Home

If you’ve ever stepped into your attic and felt like you were walking into a furnace—or a freezer, depending on the season—you’re not alone. In a climate like Scottsdale’s, where temperatures often soar above 100°F in summer, your attic plays a huge role in determining your home's comfort and energy efficiency. That’s where professional attic insulation installers come in. Whether you're building a new home, upgrading an older one, or just looking to cut down those soaring energy bills, installing or updating your attic insulation is one of the smartest investments you can make.

In this post, we’ll cover everything you need to know about attic insulation installation, from why it matters to how to choose the right installer in the Scottsdale area.

Why Is Attic Insulation So Important?
Attic insulation acts as a thermal barrier between your home and the outside environment. In the intense Arizona heat, proper insulation prevents the sun’s radiant heat from penetrating your living spaces. During the cooler months, it works in reverse—keeping the heat inside where it belongs.

Here’s how attic insulation benefits your home:

Lower energy bills – By reducing the amount of heat entering in summer and escaping in winter, your HVAC system doesn’t have to work as hard.

Improved indoor comfort – No more drastic temperature swings between rooms or floors.

Extended HVAC lifespan – Less strain on your heating and cooling systems means fewer repairs and a longer operational life.

Environmental benefits – Reduced energy use means a smaller carbon footprint.

Types of Attic Insulation
Before diving into the installation process, it’s helpful to understand the types of attic insulation available:

Blown-In (Loose-Fill) Insulation
This is one of the most common types for attics. It’s made of fiberglass or cellulose and is ideal for irregular or hard-to-reach areas. It's fast to install and great for topping off existing insulation.
Batt (Roll) Insulation
Typically made from fiberglass, batt insulation comes in pre-cut panels. It works well in attics with standard joist spacing and few obstructions.
Spray Foam Insulation
This option offers superior thermal performance and air sealing but tends to be more expensive. It's especially useful if your attic is prone to air leaks or moisture problems.

Why Hire Professional Attic Insulation Installers?
You might be tempted to tackle attic insulation as a DIY project, but here’s why working with professionals—like our team at Scottsdale Attic Insulation—makes a big difference:

Accurate Assessment
A certified installer will assess your current insulation, check for air leaks, and identify moisture issues before recommending a tailored solution.
Proper Installation
Even the best insulation materials won’t perform well if they’re improperly installed. Professionals ensure coverage is consistent and complete, avoiding gaps that reduce effectiveness.
Safety First
Working in an attic can be dangerous. Trained installers have the equipment and experience to avoid injury, electrical hazards, and exposure to insulation materials.
Building Code Compliance
Insulation requirements vary by region. A licensed installer ensures your home meets Scottsdale’s building and energy codes, which is especially important if you plan to sell your home in the future.

What to Expect During the Installation Process
At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we make the process as smooth and transparent as possible. Here’s what typically happens:

Inspection & Evaluation – We start with a thorough inspection of your attic to evaluate current insulation levels, ventilation, and potential problem areas.

Custom Recommendations – Based on your home’s specific needs, we recommend the best insulation type and R-value (thermal resistance).

Prepping the Space – We seal any air leaks, repair damage, and ensure the attic is clean and safe for installation.

Insulation Installation – Whether it’s blown-in fiberglass or spray foam, our team installs your new insulation with precision and care.

Final Inspection – After installation, we double-check everything to ensure maximum performance and customer satisfaction.

Questions to Ask Your Attic Insulation Installer
Choosing the right contractor matters. Here are a few questions to ask before hiring someone:

Are you licensed and insured?

What type of insulation do you recommend for my home, and why?

How long will the installation take?

What R-value do you suggest?

Do you offer any warranties or guarantees?

Why Choose Scottsdale Attic Insulation?
We’re a local team that understands the unique challenges of insulating homes in the Sonoran Desert climate. Our focus is on high-quality materials, expert installation, and honest service. When you work with us, you're not just improving your home's comfort—you’re investing in long-term energy savings and peace of mind.

Ready to Make Your Home More Efficient?
If you’ve been noticing higher utility bills, hot or cold spots in your home, or if it’s just been a while since your attic insulation was evaluated, now’s the perfect time to schedule an inspection. At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we’re here to help with friendly, professional service every step of the way.

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Need top attic insulation installers in Scottsdale? Our expert team offers efficient, cost-effective insulation solutions to enhance energy savings and comfort.

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Blown In Insulation: Everything You Need to Know for a More Comfortable Home

If you’re a homeowner in Scottsdale or the surrounding areas, you probably already know how critical proper insulation is to maintaining comfort and reducing energy bills. But if your attic insulation is outdated, compressed, or simply insufficient for our intense Arizona climate, your home could be losing a lot of energy—and money. One of the best solutions to upgrade your home's energy efficiency is blown in insulation.

In this article, we’ll break down everything you need to know about blown in insulation, from how it works and what materials are used, to its many benefits and why it's such a smart investment for Scottsdale homes.

What Is Blown In Insulation?
Blown in insulation—also known as loose-fill insulation—is a type of insulation made from small particles of material that are blown into place using specialized equipment. This allows the insulation to fill cavities and cover irregular spaces more completely than traditional batts or rolls.

There are two main types commonly used in attics:

Cellulose – Made from recycled paper products treated with fire retardants.

Fiberglass – Made from spun glass fibers and also treated for fire safety.

Both types are highly effective at creating a thermal barrier that helps keep indoor temperatures stable all year round.

How Is It Installed?
The process is quick, clean, and minimally invasive—making it a favorite among homeowners and insulation pros alike.

Assessment: A professional will inspect your attic to determine how much insulation is needed and identify any issues like leaks, pests, or inadequate ventilation.

Preparation: If existing insulation is damaged or needs to be removed, that step comes first.

Installation: A blowing machine is used to distribute the loose-fill material evenly across the attic floor, filling every nook and cranny.

Finishing Touches: The insulation is leveled to a consistent depth to ensure optimal performance.

For most standard-size homes, the entire process can often be completed in just a few hours.

Why Scottsdale Homes Need Blown In Insulation
Arizona’s climate poses unique challenges—especially the extreme summer heat. Blown in insulation can significantly improve your home’s ability to withstand these temperatures. Here’s how:

Improved Energy Efficiency: A well-insulated attic can lower your cooling bills by up to 20%. Blown in insulation helps create a strong thermal barrier that keeps your AC from working overtime.

Year-Round Comfort: While summers get all the attention, Scottsdale can also see chilly desert nights in the winter. Blown in insulation helps regulate indoor temperatures in all seasons.

Moisture and Mold Resistance: When properly installed, blown in insulation can also help reduce the risk of moisture buildup—especially with cellulose, which is treated to resist mold and pests.

Environmentally Friendly: Cellulose is made from recycled materials, and fiberglass has a relatively low environmental footprint. Both options contribute to greener living.

The Benefits of Blown In Over Other Insulation Types
You might be wondering how blown in insulation compares to traditional batt or spray foam insulation. Here's a quick breakdown:

Feature Blown In Insulation Batt Insulation Spray Foam
Coverage Excellent – fills gaps completely Good – may leave gaps Excellent
Installation Speed Fast Moderate Slower
Cost Affordable Affordable Higher
Sound Dampening Great Moderate Good
Best Use Attics, retrofits Walls, new construction Sealing air leaks

For many Scottsdale homeowners, blown in insulation offers the best combination of performance, affordability, and ease of installation—especially for upgrading attics.

How Long Does It Last?
When professionally installed and maintained, blown in insulation can last 20 to 30 years or more. It doesn't settle as quickly as many people assume, especially modern fiberglass versions, and remains effective for decades. Regular inspections can help ensure it maintains its depth and effectiveness over time.

When Should You Consider Upgrading?
If you’re experiencing any of the following, it might be time to upgrade your attic insulation:

High energy bills, especially in summer

Uneven indoor temperatures

Drafts or hot spots in the home

Old or damaged insulation

Preparing to sell your home and want to improve energy ratings

Upgrading to blown in insulation is not only practical but also one of the most cost-effective ways to boost your home’s energy efficiency and resale value.

Why Work With Scottsdale Attic Insulation?
At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we specialize in helping local homeowners stay cool in the summer, warm in the winter, and save money all year round. Our experienced technicians use high-quality materials and state-of-the-art equipment to ensure your blown in insulation is installed perfectly the first time.

We understand the unique needs of homes in the Scottsdale area and take pride in providing honest, friendly service with results you can feel.

Final Thoughts
Blown in insulation is a simple yet powerful upgrade that offers immediate and long-term benefits for homeowners in Scottsdale. Whether you’re dealing with rising energy costs, uneven temperatures, or just want to make your home more eco-friendly, blown in insulation is a smart, effective solution.

Ready to improve your home’s comfort and efficiency? Contact Scottsdale Attic Insulation today for a free consultation and find out how blown in insulation can make a big difference in your home.

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US and EU backed re-education camps and mass genocide. Nothing to see here.

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24 countries, including Canada, call for 'urgent action' to halt starvation in Gaza

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ShinkanTrain

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We've ignored and tacitly (outwardly) supported this long enough! It's time to do something ineffective

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essebi via Musica Agorà

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Billy Bragg - Tooth & Nail (2013)

Come già in parte è avvenuto con Mr. Love and Justice, anche in Tooth and Nai, Billy Bragg abbandona il suo "essere" cantautore militante politico e sociale in favore di un suono e quindi di un risultato molto più riflessivo e intimo... Leggi e ascolta...

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Billy Bragg - Tooth & Nail (2013)

Come già in parte è avvenuto con Mr. Love and Justice, anche in Tooth and Nai, Billy Bragg abbandona il suo “essere” cantautore militante politico e sociale in favore di un suono e quindi di un risultato molto più riflessivo e intimo. E' evidente che in questi cinque anni di silenzio ha maturato esperienze personali, uno sguardo, un vissuto e un riequilibrio interiore che probabilmente negli anni passati aveva lasciato in stand-by. Una sfera “bragghiana” mi si passi il termine, non nuova quindi ma sicuramente più profonda e matura. Lo si sente subito fin dai primi brani a cominciare dalla voce che, come non mai, raggiunge vertici di espressione notevoli... artesuono.blogspot.com/2014/10…
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di Silvano Bottaro Come già in parte è avvenuto con Mr. Love and Justice, anche in Tooth and Nai, Billy Bragg abbandona il suo "es...
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Centralscrutinizer

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@musica era un po' che volevo lanciare questo suggerimento: gli album che pubblichi sono tutti interessanti, ma non riesco a starti dietro! 😅 Hai pensato di trasformare un album al giorno in un album a settimana? Ascoltare ed apprezzare certi lavori necessità tempo.. Almeno uno ogni 3 gg 🙏

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