DC man arrested after he’s accused of throwing sandwich at federal officer and calling him a ‘fascist’
‘Why are you here? I don’t want you in my city!’ the man is accused of telling the officer
adhocfungus likes this.
South Korean Supreme Court dismisses US composer's 'Baby Shark' copyright claim
South Korea’s Supreme Court has rejected a 30 million won ($21,600) damage claim by an American composer who accused a South Korean kids content company of plagiarizing his version of “Baby Shark,” ending a six-year legal battle over the globally popular tune known for its catchy “doo doo doo doo doo doo” hook
South Korean Supreme Court dismisses US composer's 'Baby Shark' copyright claim
South Korea’s Supreme Court has rejected a 30 million won ($21,600) damage claim by an American composer who accused a South Korean kids content company of plagiarizing his version of “Baby Shark,” ending a six-year legal battle over the globally pop…Via AP news wire (The Independent)
Wyoming and South Dakota Age Verification Laws Could Include Huge Parts of the Internet
By omitting the "one-third" provision that most other states with age verification laws have adopted, Wyoming and South Dakota are placing the burden of verifying users' ages on all sorts of websites, far beyond porn.
Wyoming and South Dakota Age Verification Laws Could Include Huge Parts of the Internet
Last month, age verification laws went into effect in Wyoming and South Dakota, requiring sites hosting “material that is harmful to minors” to verify visitors are over 18 years old. These would normally just be two more states joining the nearly 30 that have so far ceded ground to a years-long campaign for enforcing invasive, ineffective methods of keeping kids away from porn online.But these two states’ laws leave out an important condition: Unlike the laws passed in other states, they don’t state that this applies only to sites with “33.3 percent” or one-third “harmful” material. That could mean Wyoming and South Dakota would require a huge number of sites to use age verification because they host any material they deem harmful to minors, not just porn sites.
Louisiana became the first state to pass an age verification law in the US in January 2023, and since then, most states have either copied or modeled their laws on Louisiana’s—including in Arizona, Missouri, and Ohio, where these laws will be enacted within the coming weeks. And most have included the “one-third” clause, which would theoretically limit the age verification burden to adult sites. But dropping that provision, as Wyoming and South Dakota have done, opens a huge swath of sites to the burden of verifying the ages of visitors in those states.
Louisiana’s law states:
“Any commercial entity that knowingly and intentionally publishes or distributes material harmful to minors on the internet from a website that contains a substantial portion of such material shall be held liable if the entity fails to perform reasonable age verification methods to verify the age of individuals attempting to access the material.”
A “substantial portion” is 33.3 percent or more material on a site that’s “harmful to minors,” the law says.
The same organizations that have lobbied for age verification laws that apply to porn sites have also spent years targeting social media platforms like Reddit and X, as well as streaming services like Netflix, for hosting adult content they deem “sexploitation.” While these sites and platforms do host adult content, age-gating the entire internet only pushes adult consumers and children alike into less-regulated, more exploitative spaces and situations, while everyone just uses VPNs to get around gates.
Florida Sues Huge Porn Sites Including XVideos and Bang Bros Over Age Verification Law
The lawsuit alleges XVideos, Bang Bros, XNXX, Girls Gone Wild and TrafficFactory are in violation of Florida’s law that requires adult platforms to verify visitors are over 18.404 MediaSamantha Cole
Adult industry advocacy group the Free Speech Coalition issued an alert about Wyoming and South Dakota’s dropping of the one-third or “substantial” requirement on Tuesday, writing that this could “create civil and criminal liability for social media platforms such as X, Reddit and Discord, retailers such as Amazon and Barnes & Noble, streaming platforms such as Netflix and Rumble,” and any other platform that simply allowed material these states consider “harmful to minors” but doesn’t age-verify. “Under these new laws, a platform with any amount of material ‘harmful to minors,’ is required to verify the age of all visitors using the site. Operators of platforms that fail to do so may be subject to civil suits or even arrest,” they wrote.I asked Wyoming Representative Martha Lawley, the lead sponsor of the state's bill, if the omission was on purpose and why. "I did not include the '33% or 1/3 rule' in my Age Verification Bill because it creates an almost impossible burden on a victim pursuing a lawsuit for violations of the law. It is more difficult than many might understand to prove percentage of an internet site that qualifies as “pornographic or material harmful to minor'" Lawley wrote in an email. "This was a provision that the porn industry lobbied heavily to be included. In Wyoming, we resisted those efforts. The second issue I had with these types of provisions is that they created some potential U.S. Constitutional concerns. These Constitutional concerns were actually brought up by several U.S. Supreme Court justices during the oral argument in the Texas Age Verification case. So, in short the 1/3 limitation places an undue burden on victims and creates potential U.S. Constitutional concerns."
I asked South Dakota Representative and sponsor of that state's bill Bethany Soye the same question. "We intentionally used the standard of 'regular course of trade or business' instead of 1/3. The 1/3 standard leaves many questions open. How is the amount measured? Is it number of images, minutes of video, number of separate webpages, pixels, etc. During oral argument, a Justice (Alito if I remember correctly) asked the attorney what percentage of porn was on his client’s websites. The attorney couldn’t give him an answer, instead he mentioned the other things on the websites like articles on sexual health and how to be an activist against these laws," Soye told me in an email. "The 1/3 standard also calls into question the government’s compelling interest in protecting kids from porn. Are we saying that 33% is harmful to minors but a website with 30% is not? We chose regular course of business because it is focused on the purpose of the business/website, not an arbitrary number. If you look into the history of the bill, 33% was a totally random number put in the first bill passed in Louisiana. Other states have just been copying it since then. We hope that our standard becomes the norm for state laws moving forward."
Kansas Is About to Pass the Most Extreme Age Verification Law Yet
The bill would make sites with more than 25 percent adult content liable to fines, and lumps homosexuality into “sexual conduct.”404 MediaSamantha Cole
A version of what could be the future of the internet in the US is already playing out in the UK. Last month, the UK enacted the Online Safety Act, which forces platforms to verify the ages of everyone who tries to access certain kinds of content deemed harmful to children. So far, this has included (but isn’t limited to) Discord, popular communities on Reddit, social media sites like Bluesky, and certain content on Spotify.
playlist.megaphone.fm?p=TBIEA2…
On Monday, a judge dismissed a case brought by the Wikimedia Foundation that argued the over-broadness of the new UK rules would “undermine the privacy and safety of Wikipedia’s volunteer contributors, expose the encyclopedia to manipulation and vandalism, and divert essential resources from protecting people and improving Wikipedia, one of the world’s most trusted and widely used digital public goods,” Wikimedia Foundation wrote. “For example, the Foundation would be required to verify the identity of many Wikipedia contributors, undermining the privacy that is central to keeping Wikipedia volunteers safe.”"As we're seeing in the UK with the Online Safety Act, laws designed to protect the children from ‘harmful material’ online quickly metastasize and begin capturing nearly all users and all sites in surveillance and censorship schemes,” Mike Stabile, director of public policy at the Free Speech Coalition, told me in an email following the alert. “These laws give the government legal power to threaten platform owners into censoring or removing fairly innocuous content — healthcare information, mainstream films, memes, political speech — while decimating privacy protections for adults. Porn was only ever a Trojan horse for advancing these laws. Now, unfortunately, we're starting to see what we warned was inside all along."
Updated 8/13 2:35 p.m. EST with comment from Rep. Lawley.
Updated 8/13 3:35 p.m. EST with comment from Rep. Soye.
Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regulations – Wikimedia Foundation
UPDATE: On Monday, 11 August, the High Court of Justice dismissed the Wikimedia Foundation’s challenge to the UK’s Online Safety Act (OSA) Categorisation Regulations.Wikimedia Foundation
The Online Safety Act isn't just about age verification – end-to-end encryption is also at risk
Mandatory scanning of our private chats might be coming next
LinkedIn Joins Meta and YouTube in Abandoning Policies Designed to Counter Anti-Trans Hate
GLAAD Social Media Safety Program's Jenni Olson says it is deeply concerning to see LinkedIn remove a policy protecting transgender and nonbinary people.
LinkedIn Joins Meta and YouTube in Abandoning Policies Designed to Counter Anti-Trans Hate
GLAAD Social Media Safety Program's Jenni Olson says it is deeply concerning to see LinkedIn remove a policy protecting transgender and nonbinary people.Jenni Olson (Tech Policy Press)
White House confirms it's still figuring out the legality of the revenue-sharing Nvidia and AMD deal for China GPU sales — 'The legality of it, the mechanics of it, is still being ironed out'
President Trump wants a 15% cut on Nvidia's and AMD's export-controlled China sales — but will the courts allow him?
Microsoft's Windows lead says the next version of Windows will be "more ambient, pervasive, and multi-modal" as AI redefines the desktop interface
In a new video, Microsoft CVP and Windows boss Pavan Davuluri has teased that the future of Windows will consist of a truly ambient and multi-modal experience made possible by AI that will redefine our usage of computers.
Germany rejects US censorship claims in human rights report
The report itself has been accused of political bias, with the US softening criticism of Israel and El Salvador. Germany rejected the report saying it has "a very high level of freedom of expression."
Archived version: archive.is/newest/dw.com/en/ge…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
US | Torture Victim’s Landmark Hacking Lawsuit Against Spyware Maker Can Proceed, Judge Rules
PORTLAND, OR – Saudi human rights activist Loujain Alhathloul’s groundbreaking lawsuit concerning spying software that enabled her imprisonment and torture can advance, a federal judge ruled in an opinion unsealed Tuesday.
Case file: eff.org/files/2025/08/13/151_o…
Torture Victim’s Landmark Hacking Lawsuit Against Spyware Maker Can Proceed, Judge Rules
PORTLAND, OR – Saudi human rights activist Loujain Alhathloul’s groundbreaking lawsuit concerning spying software that enabled her imprisonment and torture can advance, a federal judge ruled in an opinion unsealed Tuesday. U.S.Electronic Frontier Foundation
Hybrid-electric STOL showcases flexibility in first public demo flights
Electra is building an aircraft that can take off and land using an airfield that's one-tenth the size of a standard runway. To demonstrate "blown lift" aero and hybrid-electric propulsion capabilities, the EL2 prototype has just nailed public test flights at Virginia Tech.
Hybrid-electric STOL showcases flexibility in first public demo flights
Electra is building an aircraft that can take off and land using an airfield that's one-tenth the size of a standard runway. To demonstrate "blown lift" aero and hybrid-electric propulsion capabilities, the EL2 prototype has just aced test flights.Paul Ridden (New Atlas)
International Medical Workers Decry Israel's 'Deliberate Assault' on Their Gaza Colleagues
"We refuse to be silent while our colleagues are starved and shot by Israel," whose "ongoing genocide and deepening siege have effectively destroyed the entire health system in Gaza."
Archived version: archive.is/newest/commondreams…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
IDF Brags of 'In-Depth Review' That Confirms Israel Is Starving Sick Children to Death
The IDF's "in-depth review" claims Palestinians dying of starvation in Gaza had preexisting conditions—and the military appears to believe that absolves it of blame.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/commondreams…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
IDF Brags of 'In-Depth Review' That Confirms Israel Is Starving Sick Children to Death
"Children dying first in a famine Israel caused by restricting food aid also had comorbidities and preexisting conditions," said one jourtnalist. "Of course they did. That is who dies first, as any child can tell you."julia-conley (Common Dreams)
US | Rights Group Pushes Delaware AG to Revoke Gaza Humanitarian Foundation's Corporate Charter
A Center for Constitutional Rights lawyer called on Kathy Jennings to "use her power to stop this dangerous entity that is masquerading as a charitable organization while furthering death and violence in Gaza."
Case file: ccrjustice.org/sites/default/f…
Report Warns of Anti-Family Pronatalist Movement's Growing Influence on Trump White House
The Trump administration's push for more children is not about family values, but about promoting racist, sexist, and anti-immigrant ideologies. Demand real pro-family policies that support all families.
Report Warns of Anti-Family Pronatalist Movement's Growing Influence on Trump White House
"Underneath shiny motherhood medals and promises of baby bonuses is a movement intent on elevating white supremacist ideology and forcing women out of the workplace," said one advocate.julia-conley (Common Dreams)
US | New York Attorney General James sues Zelle parent company, alleging it enabled fraud
New York Attorney General Letitia James sued the parent company of payments network Zelle, alleging it enabled fraud.
Case file: ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/…
Hundreds of Former Israeli Spies Are Working in Big Tech, Database Shows
A $25 billion deal is the latest acquisition to strengthen the link between the U.S. tech sector and Israeli intelligence.
geneva_convenience likes this.
Trump White House Says Military Occupation of Nation's Capital Set to Expand
One critic accused the president of "testing the limits of his power, hoping to intimidate other cities into submission to his every vengeful whim."
First antidote for carbon monoxide poisoning "cleans" blood in minutes
An engineered protein that acts like a molecular sponge has the potential to change how carbon monoxide poisoning is treated, chasing down CO molecules in the bloodstream and helping the body flush them out in just minutes, without the risk of short- or long-term health issues that come with the current frontline treatment, pure oxygen.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/newatlas.com…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
First antidote for carbon monoxide poisoning "cleans" blood in minutes
An engineered protein that acts like a molecular sponge can hunt down CO molecules in the bloodstream and safely flush them out of the body in just minutes, without the risk of short- or long-term organ damage that comes with current oxygen treatment…Bronwyn Thompson (New Atlas)
adhocfungus likes this.
We caught companies making it harder to delete your personal data online
We caught companies making it harder to delete your personal data online – The Markup
Dozens of companies are hiding how you can delete your personal data, The Markup and CalMatters found.themarkup.org
like this
Clear, Maeve, ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆, giantpaper e Rozaŭtuno like this.
like this
giantpaper likes this.
like this
giantpaper likes this.
My understanding is that they used the existing laws as a framework and then went a little above and beyond them. There is an org in the US that's is trying to get these sorts of laws passed in every state and they want to make sure they are all compatible with each other.
I think one of the big differences is that MN residents can request what data a business has and the have corrections made.
So no, the grass isn't all that greener on the other side.
Serviots Technology Pvt Ltd
Software Development Company | USA, UAE & India | Serviots
Serviots is a global custom software development company with offices in the UAE, USA & India. Connect with us to actualize your dream project with digital transformation.Serviots
As someone who's been on the web since the 90s I hate this.
The web was designed to be user agent agnostic. Desktop, phone, fridge, ai agents, curl, python script - whatever agent you are using shouldn't matter for access. That's the whole point of open internet, period.
There are thousands of alternatives to github pages that will host your content for free. Taking your static website to a different host literally takes 5 minutes. At the scale of Github or Netlify your 1gb/mo bandwidth blog website is a rounding error and well worth the potential conversion price. The ignorance in this thread is astounding.
You can "disagree" all you want but reality is that information hosting made huge gains in the past 20 years to the point where the only cost to share a blog these days is the domain name. Even if you don't want to feed the "free corporate machines" then you can easily host it for 5$/mo and if you can't afford that I don't know what to tell you.
like this
giantpaper, Clear, Rozaŭtuno, Oofnik, Maeve, adhocfungus, ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ e geneva_convenience like this.
Yes. It’s not clear if this was photoshopped or a bug that has been around for years, I believe related to GeForce NOW streaming. The two clients share some code, and GeForce NOW does have an age requirement.
Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
like this
giantpaper likes this.
Reminder that they already responded
The Government has no plans to repeal the Online Safety Act, and is working closely with Ofcom to implement the Act as quickly and effectively as possible
Wouldn't it be sick if y'all just responded on voting day?
Here's the pitch: Do you want to prevent horrible nonsense shit from happening? Do you like money? Are you okay with people in general? Fucking vote.
What will Labour do? Starmer's manifesto and election promises
The pledges made by the new prime minister as his Labour party claim a landslide victoryAmy Gibbons (The Telegraph)
I do not realize that, I'm not from there nor do I pay attention to their politics. This was more so a call to everyone everywhere to show up at whatever booth it may be and prevent shitty policies from being considered, let alone passed.
That said, I do appreciate the info, and moreso appreciate that you archived it and linked a paywall free version. That was thoughtful.
Yeah unfortunately one vote every 4 or 5 years is not enough granularity to weigh in on specific issues. Also, politicians lie about what they will do all the time.
Showing that a large amount of people are against an action, whether by petition or protest, is one of the tools we do have.
This particular piece of legislation has been in the works for two administrations of two different parties. We're kind of sick of both of them so I think many people will likely vote for a 3rd party the next time around. Possibly the more progressive splinter group of our 'left" party.
I hope you're right. But in my experience, every country ends up voting for 1 of the 2 largest parties because "that other party will not get even 5%" and the whole population ends up disregarding them. And this is by design.
Honestly, I pray that you're right and the UK people actually tells the main parties to fuck right off.
The game has been rigged.
Voting exists to stop you changing things.
It makes you believed you solved the problem
when you've actually accomplished nothing yet
The voting is game is lost before it began
with psychometric micro demographic targetting
they can convert money into votes with simple manipulation
it's just a matter of which money interest push more
on their preferred option
but neither of the two choices is on your side
None of the choices in democracy are working for you
Yes there are many choices, very similar degrees of ultimately the same thing. Same thing here in Canada.
Often it's the business elite party and the "business elite but pretending to care about the people's interest party" and that second one is also split so the straight up business elite party has a chance to win. Followed by series of do-nothing statistically insignificant, flavour-text parties just for the impression of diversity. It's all a little circus to give you the idea the population is in control while being completely out of the equation. It only really serves to dissipate their frustration and make them believe they've already done everything they could so we don't get guillotines in the streets.
Make no mistake Fukuyama is right, this IS the end of history, there will not be any democratically elected changes unless the powerful decide change is in their interest and will maintain or increase their power.
Nothing will change until the power is physically taken away from them and history restarts.
like this
giantpaper likes this.
like this
giantpaper likes this.
(and if anyone can find an article or screen grab of the following... Let me know, I can't find any references 🙁)
I remember a game / joke where you would rub the Commodore 64 gameport with a wet finger, and the faster you went, the nicer the on-screen lady became... 😉
It's in the name... can't access graphic content without ID, can we?
/s
On a more serious note, what about AMD graphics cards?
Second world doesn't mean axis powers, it represented the Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries.
Its a cold war term. The terms represent the two remaining superpowers after WW2.
1st world = The US and US aligned countries
2nd world = Soviet Union and Soviet aligned countries
3rd world = Non-aligned countries. Which just happened to be mostly under developed countries, which is why the term is now used for that. It didn't actually mean under developed at first. For example, Switzerland is technically a 3rd world country despite being rich and highly developed.
The actual Nvidia driver settings window or all the gamer crap build on top of it that demands you make an account?
Don’t get me wrong, this law is awful but also just deinstall that piece of bloat, good old Nvidia control panel is all you need and works entirely offline without account or did something chance since i left windows?
You'd have the same issue with this on Linux, no? It isn't OS-specific.
EDIT: I meant in general. Software on Linux is also subject to the UKs temper tantrum laws, same as on Windows. The Nvidia driver is just an example, you can also just download the driver on Windows without needing their companion app.
There's a learning curve, sure.
There was one for Windows too, but most people don't remember the hundreds of hours of learning that they've done to become competent users of Windows.
Just jump in, don't dual boot. Having no option of giving up and booting Windows makes you motivated to learn how to use Linux.
There's a community of people who will help (while also sometimes being insufferable assholes) and the skills you learn will be more durable. You're not going to see Linux 11 come along and mandate that you buy a new computer or anything.
Oh I've loved it so far. And you're right on the "what you learn is more useful". Like I'd done a fair amount of hobby/work prototype stuff on rasbian, and eventually went "man, it'd be great if this but more horsepower" and wound up Debian.
Anyway, my point is despite doing a fair amount of coding, and circuit level electronics including troubleshooting comms and all the fun things like race conditions that go into that, I had zero idea how a computer was actually arranged. Troubleshooting Debian helped me with that and is infinitely transferable as opposed to being a tip and trick with windows.
But my original comment was just about Nvidia cards. I've had some I just slot in and they work, and some I have to spend an afternoon troubleshooting. Still reinforces your point though, troubleshooting it the first time was how I learned how things actually get displayed.
There's a project working on making CUDA work on all (read: AMD) graphics cards. It's alpha-level, but the progress makes it look promising.
tomshardware.com/software/a-pr…
e: Tom's Hardware links are half the size of the article 😂
You don't need Linux, you just need to get the driver from Nvidia's website.
If they can't figure this out, they really don't belong on Linux.
Ryan: "A one stop shop consumer experience. You're chatting with your friends, you're talking about the latest music, about the election; all of it is happening in our virtual driver manager"
Philus: "Did the police sort the issue?"
Ryan: "Yes"
the people get exactly the government they deserve.
You are extremely naive about "democracy"
You are taking the fake choices at face value
This is not democracy
Voting once in a while is not democracy, it's not even politics
Look at the rotating cast of 100 or so loser leading just about every democracy, do you really believe that the current leaders really are these despicable, reprehensible, deceptive and bootlicking politicians are the best people among hundreds of millions of people ?
Of course not, what a crazy idea, and you want to blame the victim about it ? The victim which are US ??? How dare you !
Every country has their own version of first past the post, electoral college and all kinds of rules that ensure that even if they can't apparently influence politics, the politics have nevertheless NEVER left the hands of the power elites. The people who have always owned everything and will always own everything. You might be feeling some protest and the desire to point to some "rags to riches" story to rebut me, but no you know just as well as I do that these exception are far and few in between and they don't save the system.
The system designed to perpetuate the concentration of power into fewer and fewer hands, as much as possible, stopping just short of monopoly and kings unless we stopped looking.
Face it, our democracy is rotten bull shit ! It's NOT OUR FAULT, it was rigged from the start by GOD DAMNED SLAVE OWNERS !!!!!!
So stop repeating the thought terminating platitudes like "the people get exactly the government they deserve", "it's the worst system, except for all the others", "western liberal democracy is the end of history".
This was and always been fake no matter how much the elites want us to believe it.
Democracy was fake then, it is fake NOW and that is not even taking into account just how incredibly WORSE it is getting in recent years. Not only were the elites content with assassination of dissenters of anything that would champion any kind of change everywhere on Earth, from Martin Luther King to an endless series of political activists but now we have even worse and more deadly than assassinations going on.
Here are just a few of the new technology that ensure your old fake democracy will never EVER amount to anything and you will scientifically never matter to any kind of policy. (even though it was scientifically proven a decade ago that the people's preference have no effect on congess' policies)
The new nails in the airtight, steel reinforced concrete coffin of democracy are
1. Behavioral Microtargeting
Data-driven psychological manipulation that hijacks emotions to steer voter behavior without their awareness.
2. Algorithmic Information Control
Algorithms decide what people see and believe, shaping political reality to favor power.
3. Surveillance-Based Targeting
Every movement, message, and purchase is tracked and fed into systems designed to pre-empt resistance.
4. Neuromarketing & Biometric Influence
Ads and messages are engineered to exploit subconscious emotional and physiological responses.
5. Digital ID & Programmable Money
Financial and identity systems can be weaponized to reward obedience and punish dissent instantly.
6. Rigged Electoral Architecture
Voting systems and rules ensure only establishment-friendly candidates ever make it to power.
7. Deplatforming & Soft Censorship
Unapproved voices are quietly erased, throttled, or discredited before they can gain traction.
8. Algorithmic Bureaucracy (AI Governance)
Opaque algorithms control critical life decisions with no transparency or accountability.
9. Weaponized Legalism ("Lawfare")
Laws are selectively enforced to crush dissent while protecting the powerful.
10. Manufactured Hopelessness
The system convinces people that resistance is pointless, ensuring compliance without force.
We are totally boned, we should all go piss on the tomb of Edward Bernays and Ivy Lee in mourning because our democracy is NEVER COMING BACK
I remember in 2019 my workplace was doing large guest lectures from experts teaching how to work with millennials entering the workplace. The teacher early on tried to emphasize that most millennials at that point were late 20s up to almost 40 so everyone's been working with them for a good amount of time now and the crowd was not interested in that.
Just venting about their teenage children who were gen z but wasn't a term used much for a couple more years. Just as entertaining were old millennials in denial and certain they were gen x. Not as entertaining were old gen z that thought they were millennials but learned they were actually gen z and it was a moment of shrug shoulder and pretty much being like, "neat." Like thinking your astrological sign or zodiac animal was one thing your whole life but was off by one.
Similar to like 2021/2022 when I started hearing about how terrible gen z workers out of college were because of growing up on tiktok. Gen z in the workforce at that time grew up on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram, and Snapchat. Twitter was genz and millennials tertiary social media. When TikTok came out they had been working for years already or just about to finish undergrad college. 2021/2022 gen z who had the brain rot got that well before TikTok became popular
"They're" is a contraction of "they are"
"Their" is possessive
"There" is a directed place
"The problem with the MTV generation is they are kids" wouldn't make any sense
There's always going to be exceptions among those with a more natural tech based interest, but it used to be that everyone was exposed to using a desktop and not something that someone had to individually go out of their way to learn.
This article all day way from back in 2021 showed professors having to rethink how to teach the basics, since now skills that were expected to be known were starting to not be common knowledge.
Gradually, Garland came to the same realization that many of her fellow educators have reached in the past four years: the concept of file folders and directories, essential to previous generations’ understanding of computers, is gibberish to many modern students.
theverge.com/22684730/students…
So yeah people who are more interested in PC gaming, streaming, and even pirating are more likely to find resources to be self taught. But, the regular people who are increasingly growing up only using phones as their computing device aren't doing the same until forced to.
File not found
Modern college students aren’t organizing their files into folders and directories, forcing some professors to rethink the way they teach programming.Monica Chin (The Verge)
Yep. I feel like a failure of a father. I was talking to my 12 year old about some website and she was all "what app is that?"
It's not an app, it's a website.
But there's no website app.
You use a web browser? Like Firefox?
What's a a web bowser? Is Firefox a new furry?
I'd probably be the same if it wasn't for video games. Wanting to build my own PC was what educated me the most about computers and how they work and learning basic desktop usage. Especially getting into Skyrim and Minecraft mods. There whether someone wants to or not they will have to know basic folder structure and where things are saved and located.
But, without a self driven reason to dive further beyond mobile devices it doesn't seem like schools are teaching people computer basics anymore. So not something learned by everyone by just every day life.
Up until now, we've been hiding it in wikis and books, where we know nobody will look. 😂
There are some user friendly distributions, but even they will be uncomfortable and frustrating to use when you're new.
Having to relearn how to use a computer is daunting for people. It's a lot easier to just touch an app and have the instant gratification.
The point of all of these apps and services is to get people dependent on them so that they're unwilling to leave because the alternative requires effort. I don't know that Linux, as a whole, can ever be that user friendly. But, eventually some people will be tired of being squeezed for cash and spyed on just to save a few weeks of reading and learning.
in a friendly manner
Emphasis on “friendly” because there’s a big “RTFM” issue on some Linux communities. Sure, it can be annoying getting the same questions constantly. But the “RTFM” response is condescending and artificially inflates the barrier to entry. People shouldn’t be expected to read, understand, and remember 200 pages of dense documentation just to learn how to update their graphics drivers. If someone is learning how to drive, telling them “read the owner’s manual for your car” is just toxic. Sure the owners manual will have lots of useful info, but that doesn’t actually help the person who is trying to get started.
At the very least, point them in the right direction. You can say “RTFM” while still being helpful. Oh, you want to know how to do something specific via CLI? Cool, here’s a link to that specific section, which explains what the command you need does. As it currently stands, a lot of the most crucial info for newcomers is buried in obscure wiki articles and books. And longtime Linux users treat the struggle like a rite of passage. But not everyone is interested in that; They just want to ditch Windows because they can’t install Win11, and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.
I do agree with a lot of what you're saying.
Linux has historically been a space for tech people and so the default assumption is that the user is competent (jokes aside...) and capable of understanding technical writing.
So, naturally, if a person asks a question which is answered in the documentation then they're reminded that the answers exist already in the expected places and asking other people to do your own research for you rude.
The Linux demographic is shifting and we need to adjust, but cultural norms change slowly.
and they’re looking for friendly alternatives.
I think that this is part of the trap that keeps people stuck in the spyware/enshittification market.
Technology is complicated.
Try to imagine, from a technical point of view, how complex it is to run a service like Netflix. There are a lot of highly trained people designing, managing and maintaining the various systems to run the service that lets a user touch a picture on their phone screen to see a movie.
The user has an easy, friendly experience but that's only because Netflix handles all of the complexity. This seems like a good deal initially. I mean, ~~$10~~ ~~$12~~ ~~$15~~ $19.99/mo is a good price to pay to not have to know how to do all of that.
But, now the user is completely dependent on service providers to stand between them and the complexity of technology so they never have a chance to learn because they never see how anything works.
This Faustian bargain is what lets these companies continue to spy on people and jack up the price of services while offering less service. Where are the users going to go?
Linux and the open source community offer a different bargain. You have to learn how to do things for yourself, but now you have actual meaningful choices about how you use technology and a community of people who are trying to solve the same problems as you.
Sure, it isn't as easy. But easy isn't free, and I'm tired of paying what they want to charge.
My literal job consists of helping other (generally much less technically savvy) representatives provide support to our end users, and it being their literal job to provide "tech" help to users is still not enough of an incentive for 80+% of them to learn anything beyond basic computing. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth just to get a fucking click path or screenshot of what's actually happening.
Now expand that out to now I am not getting paid to help people and those asking for help are often VERY entitled that they deserve to have their hand held through the entire process. It's frustrating and often thankless.
There's an older manual for how to ask a "hacker" for technical help that I think is so spot on for setting proper expectations: catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-quest…
I have been offering 1:1 chats on signal to anyone who wants help switching to Linux.
Asking questions in forums and social media is intimidating. I despise the snobbery that often represents this community. I just want to help people regain some control over their digital lives.
I would be interested. So far I can't say that I have ever been helped on social media or dedicated forums when it comes to Linux. It went mostly like this:
Me: "I have problem X. How can I solve it or at least get closer to a solution?"
Answer: "Lol, you idiot, you don't even know how to do that!"
Me: "No, I don't know. That's why I'm asking. So what do I have to do? Edit a certain script? Get a certain program?"
Answer: "Grow a brain you noob!"
(Rinse and repeat)
Alternative answer, rarely: (Crickets)
I came to two conclusions because of this. First: The Linux community has the highest density of trolls of all communities. By far. Second: None of those people actually knew the answer to any of my questions, otherwise narcissism would have kicked in at least once and made someone slip a solution, just to brag with their knowledge and skills. Which means that the Linux community is also the least tech-savvy community as well. By far. So if someone actually knows something about Linux, they can't be found in any Linux-dedicated place. At all.
Everything I learned about Linux to this day is based on trial-and-error. But I don't have the time anymore to do that and it's in general too time-consuming to reinstall distros over and over again because I went too far when trying something new. Currently I'm using Mint to browse the internet or do office tasks. But I would like to do more, like running certain Windows programs like DAWs with low latency. Or raising the polling rate of USB mice above 10 Hz (as in ten - that's not a typo). Fortunately, copying or moving more than 1 GB to or from USB sticks without crashing the entire machine (no matter if NTFS or ExFAT) was solved last year, probably because of a kernel update. Well, it's a work-in-progress-project, I know that Linux is more of a beta version of an OS and it's free, I'm not complaining about such issues. I'm experimenting, having a look what can be done.
I'm okay with things actually not being possible. I would never complain about ReactOS not running modern Windows programs either. But I'm tired of Linux trolls claiming all kinds of stuff without ever providing any description, tutorial or evidence. And I'm tired of them insulting me because I don't know something they obviously don't know either. It's ridiculous. So yeah, I'm still interested in talking to a single person who might actually know something and who is not part of "that Linux community".
Or raising the polling rate of USB mice above 10 Hz (as in ten - that's not a typo).
I don't know the answer, but I'm interested, what do you use that for?
Fortunately, copying or moving more than 1 GB to or from USB sticks without crashing the entire machine (no matter if NTFS or ExFAT) was solved last year, probably because of a kernel update.
I believe it has a lot to do with the default amount of dirty memory. dirty memory is mostly the write cache, which is unnecessary to have a lot of, as that does not improve anything after a certain point, but at best it can mislead you to believe that a copy opetation started with 200 MB/s and that it finished when it actually did not yet.
web.archive.org/web/2022082811…
kernel.org/doc/html/latest/adm…
you can fix these limits with sysctl files. they are loaded on boot on typical systemd systems. suggestions are in the manjaro post, relevant for any desktop linux system.
maybe it's worth to set these up even if you are good for now. It's good to hear a kernel change could have fixed it though. maybe they have finally revised the defaults, they wanted to do that for a few years now..
Decrease dirty bytes for more reliable USB transfer
I had an issue where transferring files to (not sure if same happens to from) USB drives would hang, and often not complete. The transfer/completion rates were also falsely reported.Manjaro Linux Forum
As a millennial, it, too, is insane.
Which begs the question: who thinks this is a needed thing and a good idea? Who is pushing this agenda?
somebody in another post a few days ago suggested that this was about gaining control of the media narrative by gradually locking down parts of the internet. The idea being that today it's adult content but tomorrow its about disagreeable narratives on YouTube, TikTok, and other secondary sources of Information.
-I'd think it were a stretch of the imagination but it was shown that the motives for trying to ban TikTok (in the U.S.) were the narratives shared on the platform about Israel's ongoing genocide.
Personally, I don't know.
From en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_G… :
The Lost Generation was the demographic cohort that reached early adulthood during World War I, and preceded the Greatest Generation. The social generation is generally defined as people born from 1883 to 1900, coming of age in either the 1900s or the 1910s, and were the first generation to mature in the 20th century. The term is also particularly used to refer to a group of American expatriate writers living in Paris during the 1920s.[1][2][3] Gertrude Stein is credited with coining the term, and it was subsequently popularized by Ernest Hemingway, who used it in the epigraph for his 1926 novel The Sun Also Rises: "You are all a lost generation."[4][5] "Lost" in this context refers to the "disoriented, wandering, directionless" spirit of many of the war's survivors in the early interwar period.
[6]In the wake of the Industrial Revolution, Western members of the Lost Generation grew up in societies that were more literate, consumerist, and media-saturated than ever before, but which also tended to maintain strictly conservative social values. Young men of the cohort were mobilized on a mass scale for World War I, a conflict that was often seen as the defining moment of their age group's lifespan. Young women also contributed to and were affected by the war, and in its aftermath gained greater freedoms politically and in other areas of life. The Lost Generation was also heavily vulnerable to the Spanish flu pandemic and became the driving force behind many cultural changes, particularly in major cities during what became known as the Roaring Twenties.
Later in their midlife, they experienced the economic effects of the Great Depression and often saw their own sons leave for the battlefields of World War II. In the developed world, they tended to reach retirement and average life expectancy during the decades after the conflict, but some significantly outlived the norm. The Lost Generation became completely ancestral when the last surviving person who was known to have been born in the Lost Generation or during the 19th century, Nabi Tajima, died in 2018 at age 117.[7]
Because when you were born correlates with your cultural experiences and therefore your behaviors. Not always, bit broadly. And if you try to define groupings for those years, you can see clearly defined generations, that were really clear with the baby boomers, who were the American children of American soldiers coming back from world war 2, and then their resultant children, generation y/the "millennials", named thusly for coming of age around the time of the millennium.
Like sure, it's all social constructs. But, so is language.
Baby boomers generally got some of the biggest economical booms in history, along with the population "boom" of their births. But that was only if you were able, white, cisgender, heterosexual, and male. The civil rights movements of the 50s, 60s, and onwards were both possible but also necessary because of the empowerment of those demographics.
But also, because of that general success, a lot of baby boomers (cishet white men) took on the behavioral traits of being largely pieces of shit. Not all, just like "not all men". But, it's enough of a pattern of entitlement and sexism and repression and psychosocial behavioral resultant of lead poisoning, that that's what the baby boomer generation is kind've seen as, now, regardless if any individual does or doesn't fit any of those things.
And so, we can largely group and label the generation and attach it to a current age group and try to predict or explain behavior.
Unfortunately, this is also discrimination in many cases where it isn't true. Personally, I try to avoid profiling entirely because the habit is gross. But, I would be lying if I said I didn't clearly see a solid pattern. I know, that they're just people like the rest of us, and if we were in their shoes, we would entirely end up just like them. But then that again brings it to it being generational, and not just age.
You think I like being reminded and disappointed when people end up fitting their negative stereotypes? You think it's easy to try to be a good person against my own upbringing? It's not. But we have to try. And working to understand is a big part of that. More people need to ask "why", and, I know you were asking rhetorically, but you were close enough that I think it deserves recognition. So, good on you for that.
Whatever the millennial generation ends up being known for, I'm curious. But until then, we can't give up trying to make ourselves, the world, and each other better. Because once you give up.... Well... We can never give up.
"Why not?" Etc etc.
You can just use the manual search tool on nvidia to find your driver. My understanding is the 9 & 10 series support is going to end soon.
When you run the installer you have a choice to install their app or not.
Download The Latest Official NVIDIA Drivers
Download the latest official NVIDIA drivers to enhance your PC gaming experience and run apps faster.NVIDIA
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
All of these people are future linux enjoyers, they just don't know it yet.
The trend has accelerated this year, corpos are data mining and they want to court proof data against you.
It has been at least 10 years coming but it is now very clear for what they are going for here.
Between Israeli genocide and pedos within the power structure, the anti resime sentiment is growing too strong and it seems for once, fake news can't change the narrative.
We are heading into the future where we won't be able to criticize genocide or pedophiles.
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
any phone that aint grapheneOS, aint worth using imho
however, i doubt grapheneos team will be able to bring a phone to market. looks like US and EU will outlaw them anyway here soon.
Something like possession of in sanctioned device either related to terrorism or child abuze.
They will start light but it will have a cooling effect where only the brave will still do it and they will die off eventually.
GitHub - NVIDIA/nvidia-settings: NVIDIA driver control panel
NVIDIA driver control panel. Contribute to NVIDIA/nvidia-settings development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
Labour hasn’t been anywhere near the left since Tory Blair became leader
Well, there was that brief bright moment with Corbyn. But then he got the Julius Caeser treatment for siding with the Radical Islamist Extremism of the anti-genocide movement.
now they are hostile to the working class and the poor
Okay, but have you considered all the new AI they are helping create.
You can download the Nvidia driver directly from their website
People who care about privacy wouldn’t use the Nvidia app. (And wouldn’t be on Windows)
You are in violation of the Community Guidelines due to not marking the comment "NSFW".
Of course we are not going to tell you why, but you get 1 strike.
/s
No it is not. Dont be a fucking ridiculous idiot.
Nvidia app is DEI woke. Gotta protect the kids.
gamingonlinux.com/2025/08/nvid…
Looks like they are working on it.
NVIDIA are working on a "general optimization" for VKD3D / DirectX12 games on Linux
For a while now Linux users with NVIDIA GPUs have been reporting performance issues with DirectX12 titles using VKD3D, but a fix may finally be coming.Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
Running a 3060, no issues I can tell.
YMMV obviously: There was some driver fuckery I had to sort out because I'm stupid (curious and clueless is a dangerous mix), and I might not be running the most demanding games or programs (Jedi: Survivor might be one of the heavier ones? I have no idea)
I also might have lower standards: I'm playing 1080p 60fps and generally don't notice FPS issues unless it drops below ~45, because I grew up using to an old-as-fuck laptop to play Skyrim at 20fps (unless there were too many spells flying around and it dropped to 5-10).
Still, the consensus seems to be that AMD is better for Linux, and I'm coming around too.
If there are Linux applications that aren't complete janky shit, I'll switch.
I need a multitrack DAW recorder that understands older and newer audio interfaces and a good multi-camera video editor.
from the evil NVIDIA app?!\
\
serious talk tho the overreach was unsurprising
The funniest thing about proprietary nvidia drivers on linux is that they're still easier to install than using the GeForce app lmao.
dnf install akmod-nvidia
No sign in to a fat game launcher ad ridden app to upgrade your GPU driver
Chinese firm to be banned for stealing Samsung's OLED tech
Samsung fires another legal torpedo against its main Chinese rival
BOE is one of China's biggest display manufacturers and it's also fast becoming a serious competitor to Samsung Display globally. Even Apple has been buying OLED panels from BOE, most recently for its new iPhone SE.Asif Iqbal Shaik (SamMobile)
adhocfungus likes this.
I would believe when people think about the word ignorant they think about MAGA and those people seem pretty damn miserable.
Sure some would even say they're happy but their actions certainly don't look like someone that is anything close to happy.
I'd argue people who lack critical thinking skills are more likely to be scared and/or angry than they are to be happy.
They're told that people like immigrants, the LGBT community, the poor etc are trying to take valuable resources away and force their culture/agenda. That these groups are dangerous, inferior, and deserve harsher treatment.
They're told that we need to give up personal liberties in the name of security. That sites requiring ID to confirm your age is a good thing to protect the children.
They're told that climate change is a hoax created by liberals to take away their right to use gas cars and funnel money into renewable energy.
I'm sure there are other talking points but I got tired just thinking about it.
It's all equally exhausting if you ask me.
all this is true, and i want to add they're also told that there are people that can fix things for them if they just believe in them and give them whatever they need to return to the "good old days"; in the united states; this is always a republican leader.
i think that this gives them hope for a brighter future and this hope makes them seem happier than others. they're fooled into having faith that things will eventually get better, so long as they keep showing up to vote for their "protector" (and they VERY MUCH reliably do) or else someone else with take charge who will then let those evil lgbt, poor, immigrants, etc. destroy the country. in the united states this someone else is always a democratic leader.
liberals have to find their own source of hope and; in the united states; most place it upon a democratic leader, but liberals see their leader less as a protector and more like a stop-gap or as someone who is a lesser evil. it doesn't matter than the democratic leader is virtually the same as the republican leader, it only matters that they're more socially progressive than the republican leader; even if only by a hair.
this means that the regressive policies that both the democratic and republican leaders share invariably bites a person in the ass where it either reinforces a conservative's faith in a protector or it disillusions a liberal. the liberal then, either rebuilds their broken sense of hope and invests it again into a new democratic leader or checks out of the system to become either a doomer and/or a non-voter.
I think if you lack critical thinking skills but have all your material needs met, have a non alienating job that is satisfying, and aren't constantly seeking answers for why your life sucks (that the media loves to provide in the form of lies), you're probably going to be pretty happy.
I guess my point is that it's not necessarily the lack of critical thinking alone. It's the combination of that with people's material circumstances.
Basically I'm just describing that I see it through a lense of dialectical materialism.
It's why I want racist or homophobic idiots to also have free universal healthcare, education, and a fulfilling job. Because I don't think you can solely "educate" away the conditions that lead people to look for answers to their poor conditions. Answers that Twitter Nazis and media outlets are happy to fill with xenophobia and bigotry.
White working class people definitely still have privileges and advantages. But you can't educate away their feelings of "well, my parents owned a house at 19 and lived off a single salary. I'm driving for Uber and have 3 roommates". And the bigotries are there to offer them reasons for why it's not their own failure and (most importantly) why it's not the failures of capitalism.
Canadians steer clear of US as travel from north falls for seventh month
Numbers of return road and air trips continue to fall after trade policy row and threats to annex country
Archived version: archive.is/20250812215254/theg…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Air Canada says it will begin cancelling flights ahead of possible weekend strike
CUPE gave airline 72-hour strike notice after 2 sides reached 'impasse' in talks
Lithuania to give children drone training to counter Russia threat
Government aims to teach 22,000 people, including children as young as eight, how to build and operate drones
Archived version: archive.is/20250813141132/theg…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Switzerland expands sanctions against Russian oil exports, aligning with EU
Switzerland extended its sanctions lists to align with the EU's 18th package against Russia, specifically targeting Moscow's largest budget revenue source – oil exports, the Swiss government said.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/kyivindepend…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Canada’s cannabis industry contributes more than $76 billion to Canada’s GDP, generates nearly 100,000 jobs annually
The cannabis industry contributed $76.5 billion to Canada’s gross domestic product (GDP) and $23.1 billion to Ontario’s GDP between legalization in 2018 and 2024, according to a new report from the Ontario Cannabis Store (OCS) and Deloitte.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/stratcann.co…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
adhocfungus likes this.
US and Russia suggest ‘West Bank-style occupation of Ukraine’
Russia would have both economic and military control of the occupied parts of Ukraine under the proposal
Archived version: archive.is/newest/independent.…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
US warships patrol South China Sea after two Chinese ships collide
USS Higgins and USS Cincinnati sailed near Scarborough Shoal after Chinese tried to drive away Philippine vessel
Archived version: archive.is/20250813211101/theg…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Finland | Minister: "Burkas and niqabs are not suitable for school"
A debate is erupting around Islamic face coverings in Finland's educational institutions.
Archived version: archive.is/20250813123725/yle.…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
like this
copymyjalopy e adhocfungus like this.
'A disaster': Russia’s Africa Corps suffers its first defeat in Mali
At least three Russian fighters died when a convoy of the Russian paramilitary group Africa Corps was caught in a jihadist ambush on August 1 near Ténenkou in the Mopti region of Mali. Members of the jihadist group JNIM filmed grisly footage of the dead Africa Corps combatants. They are the first images of deceased Russian soldiers to have emerged from the region since Africa Corps took over from the private Russian group Wagner in Mali in June.
Archived version: archive.is/20250813212042/fran…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Sony Closes All Operations in Russia After 18 Years, Ending PlayStation, Music, and Film Presence
Sony has officially dissolved its subsidiary in Russia, concluding 18 years of operations amid ongoing international sanctions and significant market changes.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/united24medi…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
adhocfungus likes this.
Trump to offer Putin 'minerals' deal in exchange for ceasefire in Ukraine, media reports
US President Donald Trump plans to offer Russian President Vladimir Putin access to rare earth minerals in order to incentivize him to end the war in Ukraine, The Telegraph informs.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/newsukraine.…
Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
Trump to offer Putin 'minerals' deal in exchange for ceasefire in Ukraine, media reports
US President Donald Trump plans to offer Russian President Vladimir Putin access to rare earth minerals in order to incentivize him to end the war in Ukraine, The Telegraph informs.RBC-Ukraine
Trump shrugs off suspected Russian hack of U.S. federal courts: 'Are you surprised?'
President Donald Trump said that he "could" bring up the hack during his upcoming meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska.
Samsung Defeats BOE In Landmark OLED Trade Secrets Case, Securing 15-Year U.S. Market Ban And Reinforcing Its Leadership In Display Technology
Samsung Display wins a landmark legal battle against China's BOE and blacks its OLED products from the U.S. market for 15 years
Samsung Defeats BOE In Landmark OLED Trade Secrets Case, Securing 15-Year U.S. Market Ban And Reinforcin…
Samsung Display wins a landmark legal battle against China's BOE and blacks its OLED products from the U.S. market for 15 yearsWccftech
copymyjalopy likes this.
Can't we do anything as google is killing AOSP and custom ROMS
It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.
Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse.
I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.
Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions.
Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.
Google is slowly making GMS very important to run.
The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.
Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).
If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.
like this
Rozaŭtuno e adhocfungus like this.
tHeSe qUeStIoNs
It was one question, and it's a relevant one. If you are worried about Google cutting support for Google Maps on AOSP, the solution is not to double down on the Google ecosystem. There's not going to be some magical perfect replacement for Google Maps out of nowhere, the only way its competitors improve is if people use them.
If you don't want to, that's fine, just don't start crying when Google pulls support out from under you.
There's many navigation apps that have traffic, like Magic Earth which 100% runs without GMS.
For review you can use gmaps wv or TripAdvisor.
Here We Go has traffic and TripAdvisor integration, but I'm not sure whether it runs without GMS.
I can't speak to any other countries, but in the states, Magic Earth has been great for me. Been using it for over two years now, several different regions of the USA. It's not as good as Google Maps, but it's plenty good enough for my needs.
Navigation and routing is solid, traffic data is acceptable, and the dashcam feature is awesome.
It's easier and nicer. But it's also shitty because of what you mentioned.
The thing is, that's how it's going to stay unless people stop using it. You can get this info you mentioned somewhere else, or simply don't need it, as I said, yes it's harder and less nice to live without it, but it's not like you can't live without live traffic data or whatever. Start using CoMaps, contribute to open street map, leave reviews on other review aggregators, etc etc
What is a good alternative that actually does navigation and searches on places as well as gmaps? I've been using OsmAnd and it's absolutely dogshit compared to it. Even the navigation, the arguably most important part, is pretty bad.
Edit: actually spent some time looking again, and CoMaps does this quite well. This is replacing OsmAnd+ for me.
comaps
The main code repository of CoMaps, a community-led fork of Organic Maps. Reinforced with commitment to transparency, privacy and being not-for-profit.Codeberg.org
if you don’t know the specific address of a place you’re pretty much SOoL
Look the address up and put it into the map app...problem solved.
I'm not expecting perfect matches, but what is considered basic proper functionality. Expecting a navigation app that is not just on par (or even worse) with a 25 year old TomTom is really not setting the bar high or expecting too much IMO.
And I do still use inferior apps to avoid big tech, but the constant shortcomings (some minor, some major) is extremely annoying, so yeah I'm venting some of that.
Co maps is mostly garbage for places. Is missing my Wegmans for fucks sake 🤣
Just a heads up for your continued testing.
CoMaps uses OpenStreetMap data, which is populated by the public, so you can fix your problem easily yourself by submitting the data you need that's missing.
You can do this right from inside CoMaps, but also StreetComplete is another great app option for doing so.
I've done this for missing stuff in my area, my edits got verified and accepted very quickly. It's much nicer than waiting for Google to maybe update their shit when it's wrong.
rooting your phone gives you ability to fake a lot of the requirements to make stubborn apps run.
Rooting also completely breaks the ability to run some apps with no recourse for spoofing the fact that it's a rooted device.
[GUIDE] 🛡️ How to Pass Strong Integrity on Android (Step-by-Step Guide)
This tutorial will help you successfully pass Basic, Device, and Strong Integrity checks in both Legacy and New Play Integrity responses. Make sure to follow each step carefully. 🔧 Step 1...Rajarshi Khatua (XDA Forums)
Banking is easily accessible thru a web browser
Until your bank 2nd factor requires google play services and all the banks in your country have the same requirement.
Yeah, that's my case as well with my main bank. So I have a separate phone that remains off until I need it (and some other crappy apps for electricity, customs and other stuff). Otherwise I'm still rocking my trusty Pixel 8 Pro running on GrapheneOS from day 1. Now, it is highly likely that, from Pixel 10 and in GrapheneOS won't be able to keep developing (I certainly hope I'm wrong), so I'm thinking on switching my 8 Pro for a 9Pro XL and keep it until GrapheneOS lands and agreement with an OEM to launch their own devices.
I guess all we can do is wait and see what happens in a month or so.
I am with you on this!
Need to buy a VPN? check F-Droid first. Need any other utility? check F-Droid first, I am ready to suck up a lot of inconvenience with the apps that aren't polished (Most of the time they are superior). Feeling generous? donate and help make the world a better place.
I sucked up a lot of inconvenience using Linux for last 2 decades or so, so I am well prepared.
LINux on MOBile
LINMOB.net is a blog about LINux on MOBile devices. With the PinePhone (Pro) and Librem 5 shipping it is back to report on GNU+Linux on mobile devices.LINux on MOBile
It'll be awhile. They've been in a development state since the launch of the original pinephone in 2020. And even the pinephone is going to be unavailable in two years as pine64 is ceasing sales on it. Not trying to crap on devs. I bought two pinephones (Braveheart & Mobian bundle). Tested multiple distros and excitedly followed their progress for years. I never had a reliable working phone in that four year span. IMO SailfishOS and Post Market OS are the two most usable mobile distros. SailfishOS now requires an ongoing subscription to use which I don't like.
liliputing.com/pinephone-pro-l…
PinePhone Pro Linux smartphone has been discontinued, but the original PinePhone is still available - Liliputing
PinePhone Pro Linux smartphone has been discontinued, but the original PinePhone is still availableBrad Linder (Liliputing)
Sailfish only needs a subscription to get updates, you can use it without a sub.
I use danctnix on my pinephone, which is basically arch. It does the basics, that's about it. What's missing is more convenient apps. Most of the stuff is catered to desktop.
Of all the OSes I tried, I liked ubports the best, but it was not updated and not all hardware worked iirc, and suffered the same problem of apps. At least arch gets updated constantly.
Linux based phones have been in development for more than a decade now. I had a Neo Freerunner from OpenMoko in 2008… it kinda worked, but it was not good enough for a daily driver.
What we have now is much better, but there’s still some ways to go before I'm able to ditch my non-linuxy smartphone.
the problem is that google is capable of slurping all of your data and your phone becomes an enhanced avenue for access; the linux phones are the solution to this.
i'm convinced that the "it just works" mantra is the reason why google or apple or microsoft is able to do this sort of asshattery and i can understand why people would want something that simply works.
however, the trade off for this mantra is that you're giving yourself over to a corporation that not only doesn' t have your best interest at heart but has proven will happily sell your control for a penny.
i can also understand why someone wouldn't think that any of this matters and; if you're lucky; it won't matter all, but for the rest of us unlucky sob's (and the people who don't want to put their faith in luck), linux phones matter.
They're actively trying to solve:
- e-waste and making devices last longer (contributing upstream)
- escaping data harvesting and surveillance
- offer an alternative to the mobile duopoly
I'm baffled that they even bother, given how much people complain about it not being good enough. But I'm glad they do, and I think it's awesome.
They're not a multi-billion dollar company. If you don't like it, then don't use it. That's your choice.
But please stop talking nonsense about them not addressing real problems. Because they are. And they deserve credit for that. Not whining about the imperfections of a work in progress.
Who wants to run scaled down desktop apps on their phone
I believe the UI of most apps could be made to work well with phone display sizes and resolutions.
and who wants a terminal on a phone either?
Well, I do! It's great when you want to connect, do or automate something there isn't an app for. For now I sometimes run Termux on Android. Among smartphone users in general I'm probably an edge case, but among Linux users, I must say, using a terminal on the phone doesn't seem that crazy to me.
What stops anyone from making new GUIs, maybe even a new framework for doing that, optimised for touchscreens rather than keyboard and mouse?
Maybe I'm just unknowledgeable, but to me that idea doesn't sound very far-fetched.
I have used postmarketOS, and I thought the interface (Plasma Mobile) was OK, but could use some improvements. How long ago did you use it?
Edit: Now that I think about it, I think the last time I tried the Pinephone it was using Manjaro, not postmarketOS. I have used that before though, but you may want to give it another try as it is vastly improved IMO. That being said, the Pinephone itself still kinda sucks from a hardware perspective.
As per my 30min research, GrapheneOS depends heavily on pixel internals, but I will highjack one of the mastodon posts maybe somebody will spoonfeed me the definitive answer.
I live in a very low cost area, hopefully I will manage to get a nameless phone to run GrapheneOS or LineageOS at low cost, forward most of the income to the open source projects.
It might be too naive but I am giving it a shot.
Thank you! GrapheneOS isn't an option then, I will wait for their phone.
I guess I could still shoot my shot with LineageOS.
If you wanted to talk to the Graphene folks the best spot seems to be their matrix rooms rather than masto.
matrix.to/#/#general:grapheneo…
Matrix - Decentralised and secure communication
You're invited to talk on Matrix. If you don't already have a client this link will help you pick one, and join the conversation. If you already have one, this link will help you join the conversationmatrix.to
The GrapheneOs team is quite particular about hardware.
I would gladly purchase a phone that came preloaded with LineageOS.
"Better than we have now." often wins over waiting for perfection.
I only use Lineage and have done so for years without any problems since CyanogenMod 10.1.
Do remember that it is the choice of the developers to use google services and nothing to do with google.
When you say "Le Chat", do you mean Mistral AI assistant/chatbot? Its probably stopped working since GPT‑5.
Currently it is not possible to run "Le Chat" ai on a phone without google,
Again its the devopers choice. They could develop a non-google Le Chat.
who on earth needs a chatbot on a phone?
I have never have any problems finding open source alternative apps.
MAPS: Comaps, Organic Maps and MagicEarth, all provide Turn by Turn navigation
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turn-by-…
I dont use any Banking Apps. Why do you need a banking app? I login to my bank in the comfort and safety of my home.
Lineage:
If you must use google try E/OS. It Uses MicroG and works very well.
microG is a FLOSS implementation of Google play services
With a web browser and user agent spoofing, that's basically how it works. I don't want any Facebook/Meta apps on my phone, so I use a desktop Google Chrome rule for all Meta URLs in my browser and user the web versions. Mobile is slowly taking over, but most things have a web version.
Unfortunately, that doesn't work for everything. The Quest 3 requires an Android or iOS device to set up. At least an old cell phone on a throwaway Google account works for most of these, since they don't need to be used often.
Hike, Bike, Drive Offline Navigate with Privacy
Discover more of your journey -www.comaps.app
Powered by the community
CoMaps is quite nice.
There are also still companies selling navigation devices that mount in a car windshield, assuming the car doesn't already have one built in.
Pro tip - those navigation devices also often have an accident camera that records if it feels an impact - which is a good idea anyway.
Wow, supports Android Auto too!
Edit: Says it supports Android Auto, to be clear - not tested by me, and issue(s) reported below.
I was using it in a restricted profile with only proprietary apps (like banking apps).
Comaps is a fork of organic maps so it should work too.
I'm not sure what the point of the post is? Is it to share frustration? Searching for a solution? Sorry, I may be not good at inferring this, but I don't get it.
IF you are in solution-finding mode, then there are a few things that you can do.
- You can use those banks that work without google. I've found 2 in the Netherlands, for example. One of them stopped working a while ago, I've wrote about that to their support and had to discontinue, withdrawing all my funds using a Dutch procedure for full withdrawal from a bank. After half a year or so I've noticed they've fixed it and work without google again. I've returned as well (it's convenient for me to have 2 banks). I'm sure as hell banks watch for their usage statistics and wouldn't like seeing people leave their bank if it can be fixed with a simple reversal of whatever the dev team did lately.
- You could try Linux phones such as PinePhone to see which use cases can it already cover. 30%? 70%? 90%? You'll know what to even wait for in the Linux landscape to be able to switch. You'll get a bit of power or mental control if you acquire this knowledge.
- Funnily, you can expect some good news coming from all those fights between US and China, because that makes a LOT of devices ship without google services. And some people in your county (I assume it's not China, otherwise you wouldn't have these problems) may have phones bought there, so you won't be alone when pushing for such changes.
Dutch banks working without google are: BUNQ and ASN Bank (EDIT: and Triodos).
BUNQ has the built-in QR scanning functionality broken (the one for iDEAL, if you're living in NL you know), but that's acceptable because it works to scan the QR in Binary Eye, which in turn opens the bunq app and the payment can be made easily.
ASN just works, all features that I've tried I think. (This one is only in Dutch though.)
Banks that I've tried few years ago and they didn't work: ING, ABN AMRO, Rabonbank, Tridos, possibly few others that I forgot.
Also, lately I've started using some of those "international" ones, not so focused on NL. I've found that Wise (pure web, haven't even tried their app) and Revolut (app) seem to work well on my de-googlified phone. Hope that helps!
EDIT: re-worded the first line of my message to be indexable by search engines, because that may be useful for future readers.
Thanks for the useful feedback.
Wise requires me to use the app as 2FA in order to log into their web interface. How do you log in without the app?
You can use andOTP if you want a FOSS app on Android. If you're a hardcore no-Android-at-all user (or considering), you can use KeePassXC on the desktop. This kind of defeats the purpose of 2FA, but on the other hand people with KeePassXC tend to have strong passwords due to ease of their maintenance, so you don't need 2FA as much to begin with.
TL&DR; use andOTP on Android or KeePassXC on Linux Desktop.
What puzzled me was that I had no option to input a TOTP. The website would only send me a notification through the Wise app to allow the login.
I have just discovered that the waiting screen on the website had a small, clickable text 'Did not receive a notification?' that leads to other options, including TOTP. That's so much better!
Thank you, I would never have discovered this if you had not said that this was possible.
And shoutout to @vas for actually telling banks and presumably other institutions that they need to be platform neutral or lose their custom. That's my preferred way out of this mess. Goog luck ungoogling, everyone
Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).
I doubt they will put any pressure. EU decided to rely on GMS for their upcoming Digital ID app. While they claim they want to switch to open source alternatives of big tech services, they designed their app so that it forces EU citizens to either comply with Google's ToS, or Apple's.
Related discussion:
github.com/eu-digital-identity…
Do not add Google Play Integrity integration
In the README, the following is listed: App and device verification based on Google Play Integrity API and Apple App Attestation I would like to strongly urge to abandon this plan. Requiring a depe...TheLastProject (GitHub)
Well spotted, my bad!
The link the new discussion is here: github.com/eu-digital-identity…
Do not add Google Play Integrity integration · eu-digital-identity-wallet av-doc-technical-specification · Discussion #19
In the README, the following is listed: App and device verification based on Google Play Integrity API and Apple App Attestation I would like to strongly urge to abandon this plan. Requiring a depe...GitHub
Damn we are stupid in the EU!
What do we want: digital sovereignty
When do we want it: ehrm.. Well.. We have some things in pipeline and it is really hard...
They know that NSA is directly spying on us and they don't care
Keep in mind GMS does not need to run as a system app. On GrapheneOS it does not.
At least for me only about 15% of my apps need GMS and I only run GMS in my private space which most of the time I lock.
So yes I do not like needing GMS but it is not so doom and gloom.
Does what work? If you mean GMS sandboxing, that is ROM specific. Up to what the ROM supplier does.
Why would one need another ROM. GrapheneOS is one of the best. So is Google hardware in terms of lifetime cost, capability, and security. What other supplier gives 7 year support?
Generally with android it is best to choose the ROM and then the best hardware for it anyway. The best ROMs often have limited hardware support. There are not that many reasonable ROMs anyway. Nor are there many hardware choices that aupport most ROMs fully.
Yeah, this is a problem. I attempted to switch to GrapheneOS just a month ago and had to roll back to stock Android. One of my banking apps worked, but 3 others didn't. My 2FA app didn't work. I stopped receiving important texts as they were previously RCS and that refused to validate no matter what I did.
Google has made it extremely hard to degoogle.
There is always a trade-off with privacy and security. It's totally okay to decide you prefer convenience over privacy.
If you wanted to give it another shot:
- You could use a different 2FA app - I know Bitwarden works well
- You can use a soft phone SMS, bonus that you can send and receive from a computer
That was why I wanted to move to GrapheneOS, I could selectively use Google services or apps for convenience while still being more secure than stock Android. I'll have to plan my next attempt out instead of Yolo and adapt, lol.
I do plan to migrate to a new 2FA, but Authy made that hard by getting rid of their desktop app so you can't port and have to go to each service and manually sign up a new app one by one. I tend to boycott services when they get that anticonsumer/anticompetitive out of principle.
My work 2FA is physical token based, it is my personal 2FA that causing me problems. Email and text authentication is insecure enough that I try and use a software authenticator whenever possible.
Great point about the work phone. I don't want a work phone as I don't have any desire to be reachable 24/7 outside of the rotating week I'm on call, but if I was expected to have email and Teams and everything on my phone I would definitely require one. Thankfully my work texts are all for team updates, heads up about issues, scheduling matters, etc, but I still consider those to be important while not riding to a separate work phone
Convenience and security probably.
The website version of a lot of banks require you login (each time) with a customer numer and then random letters from your password and or pin, which takes forever so I never bother unless I need the website.
Im (more) paranoid whenever I use a sensitive website. Quadruple checking the domain name, am i on https (even tho i use no-http and have a password manager). It's a bit more relaxing using an app.
Theres probably some security downsides (other than user error), but a modern banking site shouldn't suffer much since they invest heavily in locking down their shtuff.
Google has made it extremely hard to degoogle.
Just remember that there are no nice reasons why they are working this hard to keep your phone captive.
We can argue about how bad it will get, but there's only worse things coming from this effort.
Oh, totally, which is why I am working towards as much decoupling as possible. I plan to replace my Nest gear with Ubiquity for cameras and stuff as I can afford it, and eventually set up my own offline automation server. This can only end badly for consumers.
The collusion between services like Authy and Google indicates this to me, but it's also effective and means I have to pivot in slower degrees. I am encountering similar issues moving to Linux from Windows, so this is a full Silicone Valley issue.
With respect to 2FA, if you want to be more ready for any future next time, you could migrate to an open-source TOTP app. E.g. andOTP. I use this one, it's fine. The underlying standards don't change in decades, so you can choose any compatible client and be without trouble for years and years. And it may be good to do in any case, googlified phone or not. Good apps also tend to provide password-protected backups.
I have no knowledge about RCS though, never used it so can't tell. Otherwise GrapheneOS user for ~2 years, before that LineageOS, before that CopperheadOS for another few years.
One of my banking apps worked, but 3 others didn't.
Same issue, I just did web browser instead
My 2FA app didn't work.
I suggest just exporting and using a different 2FA app, especially an open source one like Aegis
I stopped receiving important texts as they were previously RCS and that refused to validate no matter what
RCS on GrapheneOS is very finicky and requires using AppOps to enable READ_DEVICE_IDENTIFIERS
, and you have to let carrier services and google messages have more permissions to work. You also might have to deregister your previous phone to use the number (i.e. my old iPhone still had my number in the settings, had to remove it). There's a very long GrapheneOS thread about it, but the link should be the solution.
I suggest just exporting and using a different 2FA app, especially an open source one like Aegis
Authy dropped their desktop app and killed the ability to export. I will have to start from scratch, but I definitely plan to.
I spent a week with that discussion your linked plus several other posts, I just couldn't get it working. I might have better luck next time I try it though.
Yeah, I got fucked by Authy too and did it the hard way last year.
The RCS forum post was very tedious and I came back a few months later cause RCS broke, but it's been good for almost a year now so I think I got it. Some extra details to note are your carrier, deregistring old phones, verifying app permissions, and just waiting a week or so.
I totally understand your frustration though, as I went through it 😅
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
GMS apps work fine. The only ones that don't work are ones that act invasively enough to notice they are sandboxed and disable themselves.
Mostly bank apps. Which is irritating, since they all have mobile friendly websites that work fine without needing to know my location and everything else about my phone.
That's a pretty good description of what GrapheneOS does with the sandboxed Google services.
I have found that the only apps that don't work well with Samdboxed Google services are ones that work hard to invasively probe their runtime environment.
Thwy usually fall into these three categories:
- Bank apps that do it "for my safety". Nevermind that a website version exists for attackers to target without the same (dubious, invasive) "protections".
- Streaming apps that do it "because this paid subscriber might be some kind of dark web pirate and we need to protect our content from being uploaded to the dark web one more time."
- Apps whose developers are shitty at writing code for memory management. But GrapheneOS has good options to allow these to run, anyway.
like this
☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆ likes this.
EU won't be too friendly either given the nature of their recent identification app. You should still write to your legislators, but they're a mostly tech-illiterate bunch, so expect it to be a low ROI activity.
Really do consider donating to projects like GrapheneOS. The GrapheneOS team are a very passionate and clever group, and I'd like to think that they can at least give us something to work with, even if Google completely cuts the cord. Hopefully they can also secure an additional revenue stream once they release their own phone.
If it really does all fall through and there's no deGoogled way to run Android apps, I'll keep a separate phone, preferably with a removable battery, with regular Android just to host the proprietary apps. Treat it as a work phone, i.e. power off when not needed, don't connect to my main home network, don't do anything that doesn't need to be done on it. Proprietary apps only make up a small fraction of my mobile workflow, so everything else stays on another phone that respects my privacy.
they're a mostly tech-illiterate bunch
Y'all keep saying this.... These people are not stupid, they are corrupt. Start calling spade a spade. You are giving them something to hide behind jfc.
It is only slightly on topic, but I'd like to give a hateful shout out to Ticketmaster/Live Nation's new "mobile only" ticketed events that require you to have an iPhone or fully Google blessed Android phone. They do not allow you to use a QR code or printed ticket anymore, only their app with a constantly changing bare code or Google wallet (unsure of the IOS experience).
I am going to a concert this weekend and I either have to dig up some old phone that can work with this app or sell my tickets.
like this
HeerlijkeDrop likes this.
Someone recently crack their shit code. Can use offline app after extract secret once. Will link once find.
Edit: conduition.io/coding/ticketmas… app (javascript) github.com/conduition/ticketgi…
Reverse Engineering TicketMaster's Rotating Barcodes (SafeTix)
"Screenshots won't get you in", but Chrome DevTools will.Conduition
How do I use Mobile Entry tickets?
When your event is Mobile only, or you selected Mobile Entry at checkout, you’ll only be able to access your tickets on your phone. Tickets can’t be printed from your account or get emailed to you....Ticketmaster Help
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
I've been quietly boycotting them for over 13 years now, shortly after online scalpers started having their field day with their sites. It sucks not being able to go to any major shows but I have made myself compromise by going to small local shows only and it hasn't been that bad.
Everyone votes with their wallets, so as long as people keep paying, they'll keep making us jump through more and more hoops.
Of the largest android sellers, only samsung requires gplay. Xiaomi, vivo, oppo, realme, honor, are all chinese companies that require non-bundled google play for their domestic (and maybe other countries?) releases. Google can't alienate these sellers, and if they did, all of these companies would create their own AOSP fork (or just switch to HarmonyOS)
I recently bought a xiaomi android tablet that doesn't have google play services luckily.
Android phone manufacturer market share (Aug 2025)
The most up-to-date data about the phone manufacturersAppBrain
If the goal is too swap one parasite for another, this is a valid strategy BUT
Custom ROM is the only proper solution, ideally GrapheneOS, if you actually care about security and privacy.
I use Shelter to enable the work profile. It permits to copy apps between standard and work profile. So it is possible to have google services (with an account set I mean) in the work profile.
Apps like for Banks can't be copied though. But most of the others can.
Shelter | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Isolate and run multiple instances of apps using Work Profilesf-droid.org
Maps?
Use OsmAnd and MagicEarth?
I've been doping it for years now. Works fine.
Run as many open source apps as you can is about the best option. Also, OSMAND does provide turn-by-turn directions.
What it does not do well is street addresses, so at times you may find that you have to use the GPS coordinates of the place you are going to in order to get directions.
It's never had any trouble with street addresses for me. It's using open street map so if there are addresses that aren't right you can submit changes.
Where it has trouble for me is on long trips over great distances. If you ask it to route a 6-hour trip to another state through a couple of metropolitan areas It has a pretty good chance of sending you a non-optimal route.
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
The normie is the battle ground.
They need better info and they need to be hurt by corpos for change to heppen.
Uk age verification should see a bump in freedom enjoyer ranks
Normie is not an insult or derogatory. It just means "normal person", who is usually not very tech savy.
Most Normies don't care about privacy. They know, accept and are ok with their data being collected and sold in "free" services.
It's different for every one, but for me it would mean, I can't use Microsoft authenticator, so I can't do my job anymore, as it is required to access my mail, teams, files, logging worked hours, etc etc.
I can't use any of my bank apps anymore, I can't use my phone anymore for paying in a store or checking in public transportation.
And many more apps that would stop working.
Tell your employer to provide you a corpo phone.
You shouldn't be using personal device for anything related to your job imho
like this
sunzu2 likes this.
You have accurately identified a major part of the problem. Many people are unwilling to change their habits, or don't have the patience to learn new tools.
The other element though is time, many people don't have the time to stop and learn. Especially when a problem like privacy is a lot less immediate than hunger or healthcare.
If they really had interest in stopping you they could definitely stop you. That's the direction they're heading with all of these apps that are doing the integrity check. It's just a matter of time that it'll take for them to do it gradually enough not to make everything backward compatible explode.
Microg and stuff like that are probably on their way out within the next few generations.
When postmarket finally manages to reverse engineer the modems and the voice and support something with a half decent camera I'll readily leave the ecosystem.
ITT: no one has any idea.
hint: class war
Mainline linux on mobile is solving this problem as we speak: postmarketos.org/
I expect a full collapse of the Google Android behemoth about the same time we get Half Life 3.
postmarketOS // real Linux distribution for phones
Aiming for a 10 year life-cycle for smartphonespostmarketOS
Realistically, change your approach to how you use your phone.
A majority of apps are not actually apps. They are a web app packaged in an apk so they can get elevated permissions and more data. Dont download apps, instead just install them from your browser as the web app they are. This is far more secure and far less invasive as generally a web app is containerized, at least thats my understanding in regards to firefox.
Instead of google maps, explore the world of open source navigation apps. Osmand has worked great for me, and tends to provide better info so im not panic merging at the last second. Theres a lot of them out there, and google maps has stagnated for so long that many of them are caught up in features. While its not open source, ive sesn a lot of people praise Magic Earth as well.
Buy phones on the premise of being allowed to use a custom rom. As much as i dont want a pixel because it is google, graphene os is battle tested and much more secure than stock android. But theres also lineage OS, eOS, and a few others out there.
If you need google play services, containerize it. I keep all apps i dont want having special permissions on a work profile. Funnily, i also keep my work apps on that profile, so if google wants my works data then they can handle the lawsuit if something bad happens lol.
I think a lot of people have forgotten that phones are tiny computers. The only real difference is the cell network, but we already have devices that can use those networks that arent phones, so it isnt an exclusive feature to phones. Android can be forked, but also we can emulate android on linux and there are already linux phones out there. If we grow the linux space for phones, then we effectively lose nothing of value while gaining increased freedom. For now, change how you use your phone, and only download apps if you have no other choice.
TheBigRoomXXL
in reply to learnbyexample • • •Assume an AWS profile from SSO with a single command and autocomplete
Gistlike this
eltheanine likes this.