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Microsoft AI chief says it’s ‘dangerous’ to study AI consciousness: People will start to believe in the AIs as conscious entities that they’ll advocate for AI rights, model welfare and AI citizenship


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36120089


Microsoft AI chief says it’s ‘dangerous’ to study AI consciousness: People will start to believe in the AIs as conscious entities that they’ll advocate for AI rights, model welfare and AI citizenship




Microsoft AI chief says it’s ‘dangerous’ to study AI consciousness: People will start to believe in the AIs as conscious entities that they’ll advocate for AI rights, model welfare and AI citizenship


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36120089


Microsoft AI chief says it’s ‘dangerous’ to study AI consciousness: People will start to believe in the AIs as conscious entities that they’ll advocate for AI rights, model welfare and AI citizenship


#ai_


Top 50 news websites in the US in July: BBC drops five places as paywall introduced; Most report traffic declines.


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36116640

Source Press Gazette.



Top 50 news websites in the US in July: BBC drops five places as paywall introduced; Most report traffic declines.


Source Press Gazette.


in reply to Pro

I dropped NYT a while back and switched to APNews. Ive been pretty happy with them. I see that they are dropping readership too. Any reason why?
in reply to Pro

I don't even visit news sites, just about every major site has an rss. I simpy load my reader, refresh it and read the news without any annoyances.


FTC Warns Companies(Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Discord, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, X and more) Against Censoring or Weakening the Data Security of Americans at the Behest of Foreign Powers


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36118899

Republished here under Public Domain.

Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew N. Ferguson sent letters today to more than a dozen prominent technology companies reminding them of their obligations to protect the privacy and data security of American consumers despite pressure from foreign governments to weaken such protections. He also warned them that censoring Americans at the behest of foreign powers might violate the law.

The letters were sent to companies that provide cloud computing, data security, social media, messaging apps and other services and include: Akamai, Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Cloudflare, Discord, GoDaddy, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, Slack and X.

The letters noted that companies might feel pressured to censor and weaken data security protections for Americans in response to the laws, demands, or expected demands of foreign powers. These laws include the European Union’s Digital Services Act and the United Kingdom’s Online Safety Act, which incentivize tech companies to censor worldwide speech, and the UK’s Investigatory Powers Act, which can require companies to weaken their encryption measures to enable UK law enforcement to access data stored by users.

“I am concerned that these actions by foreign powers to impose censorship and weaken end-to-end encryption will erode Americans’ freedoms and subject them to myriad harms, such as surveillance by foreign governments and an increased risk of identity theft and fraud,” Chairman Ferguson wrote.

The letter noted that as companies consider how to comply with foreign laws and demands, they are still required to comply with the FTC Act’s prohibition against unfair and deceptive practices in the marketplace. For example, if a company promises consumers that it encrypts or secures online communications but then adopts weaker security in response to demands from a foreign government, such an action could be considered a deceptive practice under the FTC Act, the letter noted.

The FTC has brought dozens of cases over the past two decades against companies that have failed to keep their promises to consumers to deploy reasonable safeguards to protect consumer data.



FTC Warns Companies(Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Discord, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, X and more) Against Censoring or Weakening the Data Security of Americans at the Behest of Foreign Powers


Republished here under Public Domain.

Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew N. Ferguson sent letters today to more than a dozen prominent technology companies reminding them of their obligations to protect the privacy and data security of American consumers despite pressure from foreign governments to weaken such protections. He also warned them that censoring Americans at the behest of foreign powers might violate the law.

The letters were sent to companies that provide cloud computing, data security, social media, messaging apps and other services and include: Akamai, Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Cloudflare, Discord, GoDaddy, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, Slack and X.

The letters noted that companies might feel pressured to censor and weaken data security protections for Americans in response to the laws, demands, or expected demands of foreign powers. These laws include the European Union’s Digital Services Act and the United Kingdom’s Online Safety Act, which incentivize tech companies to censor worldwide speech, and the UK’s Investigatory Powers Act, which can require companies to weaken their encryption measures to enable UK law enforcement to access data stored by users.

“I am concerned that these actions by foreign powers to impose censorship and weaken end-to-end encryption will erode Americans’ freedoms and subject them to myriad harms, such as surveillance by foreign governments and an increased risk of identity theft and fraud,” Chairman Ferguson wrote.

The letter noted that as companies consider how to comply with foreign laws and demands, they are still required to comply with the FTC Act’s prohibition against unfair and deceptive practices in the marketplace. For example, if a company promises consumers that it encrypts or secures online communications but then adopts weaker security in response to demands from a foreign government, such an action could be considered a deceptive practice under the FTC Act, the letter noted.

The FTC has brought dozens of cases over the past two decades against companies that have failed to keep their promises to consumers to deploy reasonable safeguards to protect consumer data.


in reply to Pro

reminding them of their obligations to protect the privacy and data security of American consumers despite pressure from foreign governments to weaken such protections


Yeah, but that mostly goes the other way around. If it comes to privacy, Europe isn't the best but the US is a laughing stock.

Yeah, europe yet again is trying to get this law to break encryption but don't act as if the US hasn't been trying the same since forever



Kremlin-Backed Messaging App Max to Come Pre-Installed on Devices Starting Next Month


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36118716

::: spoiler Context
Wikipedia.
Max (stylized in all uppercase; Russian: Макс, [ˈmaks] MAKS) is a Russian messenger released by VK in 2025. As of July 2025, it is in beta-testing stage. By analogy with the Chinese platform WeChat, a universal mobile application ("superapp") is being developed on the basis of Max, which allows, in addition to using the functions of the messenger, to also receive electronic Gosuslugi, verify identity through a digital ID, use a strengthened electronic signature, and also make payments.
:::

Russia’s new state-backed messaging app Max will come pre-installed on all devices sold in the country starting on Sept. 1, the government announced Thursday.




Kremlin-Backed Messaging App Max to Come Pre-Installed on Devices Starting Next Month


::: spoiler Context
Wikipedia.

Max (stylized in all uppercase; Russian: Макс, [ˈmaks] MAKS) is a Russian messenger released by VK in 2025. As of July 2025, it is in beta-testing stage. By analogy with the Chinese platform WeChat, a universal mobile application ("superapp") is being developed on the basis of Max, which allows, in addition to using the functions of the messenger, to also receive electronic Gosuslugi, verify identity through a digital ID, use a strengthened electronic signature, and also make payments.
:::

Russia’s new state-backed messaging app Max will come pre-installed on all devices sold in the country starting on Sept. 1, the government announced Thursday.



in reply to Pro

FYI, there isn't much difference between this and mandatory encryption backdoors. Both are fundamentally authoritarian... So when your gov's push for encryption backdoors, they are a domestic enemy en par with Putin and all other dictatorships.
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in reply to Pro

ah, so this is the real reason why hbo rebranded

!/s!<


French streamers' broadcasted death prompts outcry while authorities investigate possible abuse


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36118454

Raphael Graven, 46, died on Monday during a days-long broadcast on the streaming platform Kick




French streamers' broadcasted death prompts outcry while authorities investigate possible abuse


Raphael Graven, 46, died on Monday during a days-long broadcast on the streaming platform Kick



in reply to 0x0

Whether or not that's a defense depends on the details of the French legal system. In most countries, there are rights you're not allowed to sign away. No idea whether security of the person is one of those rights in France.
in reply to nyan

Not disagreeing, but if it was, the killers won a lawsuit and the killed won a Darwin Award.
in reply to 0x0

It does not change anything in terms of crime in France.
in reply to gauchercontrariant

Not disagreeing, but if it was, the killers won a lawsuit and the killed won a Darwin Award.


Burner Phone 101


Burner Phone 101 Workshop Presentation Slides.

Hosted by the Brooklyn Public Library, this Burner Phone 101 workshop introduced participants to phone-related risk modeling, privacy-protective smartphone practices, the full spectrum of burner phone options, and when to leave phones behind entirely.
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is it possible to pirate Microsoft Flight Simulator? (PLEASE read before commenting)


so I thought it wouldn't be available because it needs connection to MS servers I think? anyway, I was looking at the sites on the megathread and MS flight simulator is available on several websites, like fitgirl repacks, steamrip etc (I assume that's the 2020 version but there is a 2024 one as well on gamebounty). so now I'm actually curious, has anyone tried it? does it work well?
in reply to ShadowCat

The Fitgirl Repack is the 2020 version. There is a portable version released by Digitalzone (Archive size 9.49GB, based on the online-fix.me p2p release), which works online, but still needs a microsoft account according to release notes (so a burner account is preferable). Haven't tried it, but the Digitalzone portables i did try in the past all worked well so i expect the same here.
in reply to A Wild Mimic appears!

I've never heard of digitalzone, and I can't find it on the megathread either. can you tell me more ? or where I can find it
in reply to ShadowCat

If you want to play airplane simulation and you want to really fly and enjoy flying then I still recommend you to buy the X-plane 12, because it is much closer to flying than the FS.
x-plane.com/
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Japan city drafts ordinance to cap smartphone use at 2 hours per day


A central Japan city said Thursday it will seek to pass an ordinance recommending all residents limit smartphone use to two hours a day outside of work and school amid concerns over the impact of excessive technology exposure, though there will be no penalties proposed.

The ordinance drafted by the city of Toyoake in Aichi Prefecture is likely to be the first such municipal regulation in Japan that targets a limit on the use of smartphones and other electronic devices, according to the city. If passed by the local assembly, the ordinance will come into effect on Oct. 1.



FTC Warns Companies(Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Discord, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, X and more) Against Censoring or Weakening the Data Security of Americans at the Behest of Foreign Powers


Republished here under Public Domain.

Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew N. Ferguson sent letters today to more than a dozen prominent technology companies reminding them of their obligations to protect the privacy and data security of American consumers despite pressure from foreign governments to weaken such protections. He also warned them that censoring Americans at the behest of foreign powers might violate the law.

The letters were sent to companies that provide cloud computing, data security, social media, messaging apps and other services and include: Akamai, Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Cloudflare, Discord, GoDaddy, Meta, Microsoft, Signal, Snap, Slack and X.

The letters noted that companies might feel pressured to censor and weaken data security protections for Americans in response to the laws, demands, or expected demands of foreign powers. These laws include the European Union’s Digital Services Act and the United Kingdom’s Online Safety Act, which incentivize tech companies to censor worldwide speech, and the UK’s Investigatory Powers Act, which can require companies to weaken their encryption measures to enable UK law enforcement to access data stored by users.

“I am concerned that these actions by foreign powers to impose censorship and weaken end-to-end encryption will erode Americans’ freedoms and subject them to myriad harms, such as surveillance by foreign governments and an increased risk of identity theft and fraud,” Chairman Ferguson wrote.

The letter noted that as companies consider how to comply with foreign laws and demands, they are still required to comply with the FTC Act’s prohibition against unfair and deceptive practices in the marketplace. For example, if a company promises consumers that it encrypts or secures online communications but then adopts weaker security in response to demands from a foreign government, such an action could be considered a deceptive practice under the FTC Act, the letter noted.

The FTC has brought dozens of cases over the past two decades against companies that have failed to keep their promises to consumers to deploy reasonable safeguards to protect consumer data.

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Kremlin-Backed Messaging App Max to Come Pre-Installed on Devices Starting Next Month


::: spoiler Context
Wikipedia.

Max (stylized in all uppercase; Russian: Макс, [ˈmaks] MAKS) is a Russian messenger released by VK in 2025. As of July 2025, it is in beta-testing stage. By analogy with the Chinese platform WeChat, a universal mobile application ("superapp") is being developed on the basis of Max, which allows, in addition to using the functions of the messenger, to also receive electronic Gosuslugi, verify identity through a digital ID, use a strengthened electronic signature, and also make payments.
:::

Russia’s new state-backed messaging app Max will come pre-installed on all devices sold in the country starting on Sept. 1, the government announced Thursday.




Top 50 news websites in the US in July: BBC drops five places as paywall introduced; Most report traffic declines.


Source Press Gazette.
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Wired, Business Insider, Index on Censorship magazine and more outlets got tricked into publishing AI-Generated, fabricated articles that feature people who do not seem to exist.


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36112633


Wired, Business Insider, Index on Censorship magazine and more outlets got tricked into publishing AI-Generated, fabricated articles that feature people who do not seem to exist.












No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36109840

Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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New Jersey Monitor is part of States Newsroom, a nonprofit news network supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. New Jersey Monitor maintains editorial independence. Contact Editor Terrence T. McDonald for questions: info@newjerseymonitor.com.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36109840

Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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New Jersey Monitor is part of States Newsroom, a nonprofit news network supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. New Jersey Monitor maintains editorial independence. Contact Editor Terrence T. McDonald for questions: info@newjerseymonitor.com.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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New Jersey Monitor is part of States Newsroom, a nonprofit news network supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. New Jersey Monitor maintains editorial independence. Contact Editor Terrence T. McDonald for questions: info@newjerseymonitor.com.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36109840

Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

GET THE MORNING HEADLINES.SUBSCRIBE

New Jersey Monitor is part of States Newsroom, a nonprofit news network supported by grants and a coalition of donors as a 501c(3) public charity. New Jersey Monitor maintains editorial independence. Contact Editor Terrence T. McDonald for questions: info@newjerseymonitor.com.

Creative Commons license CC BY-NC-ND 4.0.



No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


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Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36109840

Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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in reply to infjarchninja

Just watch out for the emergence of a charismatic person who "others" people like immigrants, homeless folks, poor people, disabled folks, or people different races/religion. I am in the US and it is scary here. I would leave but am trapped, and honestly Canada and the EU are not looking much better despite their constant judgements.
in reply to ScoffingLizard

Hey ScoffingLizard

I think it is already here:

The anti-immigrant right wing fascists have been out in force in my area.

They have been having get togethers in my local high street. Big muscles, shaven heads, tattoos, anabolic steroid body building users, standing with their legs apart to intimidate those walking past them, wankers. They have serious male identity issues.

I went out for a drive this morning down to my local river for a long walk.

All the mini roundabouts in my local area, there are about 10 of them on the way to the river, have been painted red with the George Cross.

I remember the skinheads from the Mid 70's. Gangs of short haired boys, with Doc marten boots and Ben Sherman shirts, travelling around in cars, beating up anyone with a black or brown skin.

I knew quite a few of them and I always thought they were wankers, Absolutely useless on a "one on one" fist fight, but in gang they would attack any single male. Brave bastards they were.

The most frustrating thing of all is that they considered themselves pure bloods. Pure blood english. There is no such thing. simple minded wankers.

They have not even thought about our history, with everyone in Europe invading and occupying us at one time or other. The Romans, The Vikings, The Normans, the Jutes and Anglo-Saxons etc etc, they were not english. Pure bloods they say.

This Reminds me of your ICE teams over there.

You can see the similarities in Nineteen Eighty-Four:

Each state is self-supporting and self-enclosed: emigration and immigration are forbidden, as are international trade and the learning of foreign languages

Sounds familiar doesnt it.



No phone passcode privacy expectation in police station, New Jersey appeals court rules


Photo by Sora Shimazaki

by Nikita Biryukov, New Jersey Monitor
August 19, 2025

Police did not act improperly when an officer gained access to the phone of an individual detained for kidnapping, sex assault, and other serious charges after watching the man enter his cellphone passcode and committing it to memory, a New Jersey appeals court ruled Tuesday.

Tyrone Ellison, who was arrested and convicted after kidnapping a minor with substance abuse issues from a Newark hospital, had no reasonable expectation of privacy when he unlocked his phone while in police custody and under the supervision of a detective, the court ruled.

“There was no violation of defendant’s Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination where defendant voluntarily requested his cell phone, was not compelled to provide the passcode and voluntarily entered the passcode in the officer’s presence,” the judges wrote.

Police could not leave Ellison unattended with his phone without risking him deleting evidence, the ruling adds.

The judges said prior case law that found an arrestee maintained a reasonable expectation of privacy when making a call from a police station without being told that call may be monitored or recorded does not apply to Ellison’s case.

Ellison, the judges wrote, was aware of the detective’s presence when entering his passcode, did not attempt to conceal his password, and was not stopped from concealing his passcode from police.

“There was no deception or trickery used to obtain defendant’s passcode. Nor did the police orchestrate the situation to induce defendant to reveal the passcode,” the court wrote.

In effect, Ellison’s expectation of privacy vanished when he chose to unlock his phone in the presence of police, the court found.

A divided New Jersey Supreme Court in 2020 ruled in Andrews v. New Jersey that while the Fifth Amendment presumptively protects individuals’ passcodes, they can be compelled to reveal them under the foregone conclusion exception to the amendment. That exception allows the compelled disclosure of documents and passcodes as long as authorities know they exist and the individual subject to the warrant knows and possesses them.

Tuesday’s ruling says another doctrine that allows authorities to use improperly obtained information if it would have inevitably come into their possession through proper channels would have allowed police to use the passcode even if it was initially obtained improperly.

Police obtained a communications data warrant to search the phone and could have obtained an order to compel Ellison to disclose his passcode, the judges wrote.

“Once the passcode was compelled, law enforcement would have been able to access the contents of the phone,” the judges wrote.

The New Jersey Office of the Public Defender represented Ellison. Alison Perrone, deputy of the office’s appellate section, called the ruling concerning and said her office will ask the New Jersey Supreme Court to review the case.

“The ability of law enforcement to observe and later use a person’s private phone passcode while in custody presents serious questions about constitutional rights in the digital era,” Perrone said in a statement.

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A new diamond- based magnetic field sensor could be used to better find tumours through tracing magnetic fluid injected in the body.


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Research.

The diamond sensor works by detecting magnetic tracer fluid (iron oxide nanoparticles) that is introduced into the patient during or before breast cancer surgery. The tracer fluid is injected into the tumour and then travels to the lymph nodes alongside metastasized cancer cells. A magnetic field sensor based on a diamond can then locate the tracer fluid and pinpoint the lymph nodes to be surgically removed to stop the cancer spread.

Its compact design is achieved by using a tiny diamond (0.5 mm3) and a small permanent magnet that is attached to the probe head. This eliminates the need for bulky electronics allowing for a handheld versatile tool.




A new diamond- based magnetic field sensor could be used to better find tumours through tracing magnetic fluid injected in the body.


Research.

The diamond sensor works by detecting magnetic tracer fluid (iron oxide nanoparticles) that is introduced into the patient during or before breast cancer surgery. The tracer fluid is injected into the tumour and then travels to the lymph nodes alongside metastasized cancer cells. A magnetic field sensor based on a diamond can then locate the tracer fluid and pinpoint the lymph nodes to be surgically removed to stop the cancer spread.

Its compact design is achieved by using a tiny diamond (0.5 mm3) and a small permanent magnet that is attached to the probe head. This eliminates the need for bulky electronics allowing for a handheld versatile tool.





The Vera Rubin Observatory is ready to revolutionize astronomy: To answer big cosmic questions, “you need something like Rubin. There is no competition.”


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The Vera Rubin Observatory is ready to revolutionize astronomy: To answer big cosmic questions, “you need something like Rubin. There is no competition.”




New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic


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New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic




New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic


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New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic




New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic


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New Threat Research Reveals AI crawlers make up almost 80% of AI bot traffic, Meta Leads AI Crawling As ChatGPT Dominates Real-Time Web Traffic


in reply to friend_of_satan

3 Indian tech workers in a trench coat.
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Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%


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Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%




Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%


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Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%




Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%


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Solar panels in space could cut Europe's renewable energy needs by 80%


in reply to Pro

Countries will do everything except build nuclear power plants ig.
in reply to TheWeirdo

Or make more use of renewables. Nuclear has never been cost-efficient, it's just that the costs have been buried in state subsidies to the industry and its supply chain.
in reply to phutatorius

Nuclear has never been cost-efficient, it's just that the costs have been buried in state subsidies to the industry and its supply chain.


A lie repeated again and again.

French Cour des Comptes has released a report, back in 2012, the costs of the french nuclear fleet, everything included: 121 billions of euros between 1960 and 2010.

2,4 billions a year. To provide decarbonized and reliable electricity for decades.

To put in perspective, Germany is more than a trillion of euros in for their Energiewende, or about 40 billions of euros a year for ~25 years, and they still have one of the costliest and dirtiest electricity or Europe, while still not being close to stop coal and having no plan to get out of gas.

And for more perspective, EDF had 118 billions of dollars of revenues in 2024, mostly coming from nuclear, and 11 billions of net results, including the payback of the interests of the debt that the french government imposed on EDF.

Anyone claiming nuclear has never been or can’t be profitable or cost-efficient is either uneducated or a liar.

When done right, nuclear is profitable as fuck, that's empirically proved.

in reply to Waryle

That might have been true in the past, but right now renewable energy is by far cheaper and faster to build than nuclear energy. (Just look into the final end user prices they produce)

As I believe you are German or at least can read it: here is something well written to read quellen.tv/energie#aber-frankr…

Also there is more to Germany having costly electricity than not building nuclear power plants as you make it to be.

in reply to Fyrak

but right now renewable energy is by far cheaper and faster to build than nuclear energy.


No. Building a solar or wind plant is cheaper and faster than building a nuclear plant, sure, but that's not what we're aiming for. The goal is to decarbonize electricity by phasing out fossils.

Replacing all fossil-based electricity production nationwide is quite cheap for nuclear when done right (e.g. France, planning for decades and multiple reactors at once, while actually politically supporting your industry, instead of throwing a project once in a while and letting it fight in courts by itself against NIMBY and anti-nuclears).

Replacing fossils with solar and wind power is science fiction. There is not a single country in the world that has decarbonized its electricity without significant decarbonized and controllable electricity capacities, or to name them: hydro or nuclear. Except that you just can't build hydro anywhere, and most countries' capacities are limited.

You can't claim that solar and wind are cheaper than nuclear, because solar and wind just can't do what nuclear can, and can at best be complementary to other controllable power sources.

in reply to Pro

lol, what an insane idea...
A physical cable back to Earth is impossible, otherwise we'd already have space elevators.
Any other wireless transmission would have all the same weather problems and energy losses, it would be WAY cheaper to just build more solar panels on the ground.