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Someone (well, something) who doesn't violate you because he can't, not because he wouldn't, is not a good example.
Like, Thomas Edison didn't sell me out using his light bulb. Not because he was a good person, because he physically couldn't. If he were alive today he absolutely would.
No, it won‘t. What this does is helping you take action and fight against it, knowing you are not alone. It really gives you moral support when seeing clippy on other youtube videos making you feel there are many of you who do not tolerate the bullshit.
So using a Microsoft product to fight against corporate’s greed like Microsoft. Just use libre office or any alternative instead of “changing picture” on ads platforms.
And to continue my reply to your other comment, using libre office or an alternative won't have that rallying cry effect, since you're doing it on your own.
It sounds dumb but many people won't do what they believe is right if they're alone and if the alternative is easier.
Try to forget about the weird mascot choice. It's just a rallying cry.
I also don't really get why the clippy and he probably could have picked a better avatar for people to use.
The point is (I think) that people who know what it's about will feel the support of all these strangers sharing their view, and people who don't know might look it up and get sensibilized to the cause.
Just trying to help you understand the logic since you're having a hard time. Starting to think you're not trying at all... Remember understanding and agreeing aren't the same thing.
Yep, not just there. I don't know if it's going to change anything fundamental but I agree with the sentiment and if nothing else, it's a statement of solidarity with other people who might feel like everybody around them is giving in to the slopshittification.
I don't know what being American or otherwise has to do with it btw.
The video is monetized, and by having some ppl change their pfp to clippy and then linking to his video - I mean congrats to Mr. Rossmann for the big $$$
I've only seen one other video of his, and I have to agree with you. He — at least in that video I saw — talked like an angry manosphere podcaster and it's not something that I enjoy. It's too bad because I think his message was pretty good. It was about digital cameras requiring apps for it to function and how that's bullshit.
The only thing LLMy about their comment is the emdashes - nothing abiut the rest of the structure or word choice says LLM to me. Neither does anything in their post history (again, aside from the use of emdashes).
I've interacted with k0e3 in the past, they're no LLM. Even then, a quick profile check shows it. But you didn't check it, right? Of course you didn't, it's easier to vomit assumptions and re-eat your own vomit, right?
And the comment's "tone" isn't even remotely close to typical LLM output dammit. LLMs avoid words like "bullshit", contracting "it is not" into "it's not" (instead of "it isn't"), or writing in first person. The only thing resembling LLM output is the em dash usage—but there are a thousand potential reasons for that.
(inb4 assumer claims I'm also an LLM because I just used an em dash and listed three items.)
Wtf? I've been using emdashes since I was a kid ever since, you know, my teacher taught me how to fucking use them. Sorry about not being an idiot, I guess.
He became famous for fixing computers, mostly Apple products, while complaining about how bad Apple Genius bars were, and how unfair Apple's business practices are. I can respect that, and it was good that someone was speaking up about it.
You'd expect someone like that to be pro-regulation, anti-monopoly, pro-union, etc. But, it does seem like his motivation is more libertarian, and that's what makes me worry.
Crazy thing is he also uploads to Odysee and paid to develop grayjay, I'm not even subscribed to his youtube channel and thanks to him I'm moving as many subs off the platform as possible. Quite a few creators upload all their shit to other platforms.
also if you're watching someone who advocates for adblockers without using one yourself that's on you.
He barely makes money off of these videos (negligible) and encourages all his users to use adblockers.
Given his target audience I'm sure he's at the lower end of the money paid per view. Also he could've taken a sponsorship on anyone of his hundreds of videos but he has not so far, so not really big $$$
Liking to hear himself rant is not a quality in my book..
I don't like the way he speaks but he's all (I should say mostly, I don't watch all of his videos) about consumer rights which ... How can you not like that?
Sure his delivery method is not for everyone but listen through his salt-coated style and you'll find he brings up many important points.
I'm from the USA and I have no idea what you're talking about. What's the context here, what is adopting a corporate marketing image as my profile picture supposed to accomplish?
It would require writing a wall of text, trying to convey the content of his +16min video series using my weak English. Doesn't seem the best approach imo. Also since I've pointed the source of the trend you can use a search engine to find an article or something.
On the other hand, seeing this symbol more and more on other random videos outside that bubble does give a very nice sense of "I am not alone". It does more for users to find eachother than it does damage to big corpos.
But choice of the symbol itself is questionable.. Why use a big tech symbol to protest big tech? -__- And not just any big tech, but super evil 90s monopolistic giant Microsoft
There's a nice cartoon in this thread we're clippy is if he could have, he would have harvest all your data.
Come on. Changing an avatar picture has never achieved anything. On top of that, changing to a corporate mascot to fight corporate greed….give me a break. There are better actions to take like being on fediverse instead of Reddit or other social media platforms or using libre office. I get the rant but an avatar change doesn’t mean anything.
It's mostly idiots who want to be part of something and some that "don't like" what is happening and "want" change but put in the least possible amount of effort pathetically to attempt to cause a change, and this only when someone popular suggests.
They never really want to stop using the product. It's like drug addicts trying to make drugs less addicting by "protesting" against the very thing they use (and will keep using) literally everyday.
Personally, I have more of a "I'm not alone" feeling when I actively leave services that I disagree with and through word of mouth find alternatives where I can talk to people who seem to have the same base values I do. Even if we disagree on other things.
It's the laziness of this initiative that drives me up a wall. People want change but they don't want to work for or sacrifice anything for it.
we can argue about the choice of symbol until the world ends. the symbol is just a thing people can recognise and rally around.
the first step of any movement is to gather people. then do something. so yes, changing a picture is lazy, but it is a virtual rally point. he talks about next steps in another video: odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/yo…
Good on him that he's actually planning on doing something more than just have ppl change their avatar. Maybe he should have put that in the original video instead of getting mad that people are calling him out for slacktivism.
Also, I have not argued the choice of symbol at any point. I don't care what image people put as their profile pic. What I was arguing was that it is weak to change your profile pic for a cause if you then keep using the products you're protesting against.
If he and the people joining his movement actually manage to make positive change, then I'm all for it. It just wasn't clear in his first video that he had ambitions to actively have laws changed. It sounded like he wanted people to change their pics that that would somehow make everybody rebel against their corporate overlords. If he didn't want people to think that was his movement, he should have elaborated in the same video instead of playing coy and splitting it up into two videos where he gets to call the critics of his movement apathetic idiots.
Good luck to him and those who join the movement. I hope they manage to make some changes.
sometimes you don't have to (or can't) have a full plan A-Z. Sometimes you just have to start somewhere - usually with gathering ppl. euromaidan is a great example of that.
but yes, louis could have put more concrete plans in his first video. as he has them. on the other hand he probably throws many things and sees what sticks. i guess that is what you have to do, if you try to change legislation against corpos with much more everything than you.
And that is fair. If he's the type to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks before he goes into making more detailed plans, then cool. But him sitting and getting pissy about people who criticized him and calling them names is a very unselfaware move. Of he's a throw shit at the wall guy, he has to deal with the fact that people can't read his mind and that he will have to clarify like an adult and talk to his critics with respect. If he can't handle valid criticism to his poorly communicated video, he should probably change tactics and not be a throw shit at the wall guy anymore.
Again, I wish him the best of luck with his movement as he seems to have the drive to actually getting things done. I just don't respect his attitude about the criticism he received.
It's a good thing that's not what it's about then. It's about showing the size of the community, and knowing that there are other people like you that care, and thus you will be more likely to actually do something.
how so? I think it's absolutely perfect that what was once emblematic of corporate overreach into our lives would be welcomed as preferable to the current state of affairs. Clippy didn't want to sell your data to bounty hunters, he just wanted to help.
Clippy symbolizes the attachment our generation has to the old state of software: - you bought it? Then it runs offline for sure! - nothing runs on background, except if you turn it on (Yes I never turned on Windows default protection on Win xp or win 7 - You bought? You own it, you format it, you don't pay for subscription, and there is practically nothing stopping you from modifying it if you go hacker.
On top of that Clippy looks cute. Personally I'm not participating in the movement since I'm not American, but imo the choice does make sense. While I'm typing from Ubuntu, I only switched to Linux cuz I can't get back to the old state of win xp or win 7 that was perfect imo. While some are trying to convert people into Linux, others are trying to restore the corporate business to the old acceptable state. Neither will succeed alone, and in fact those companies are using resources of your country to produce this shit, so it makes sense that you demand it to not suck that hard.
That is nostalgia talking. Microsoft was evil at that time. I will rather that the tiktoker use his monetized video to talk about Linux. He is creating a false movement just for money and eye ball purpose. Be real.
He absolutely would have sold your data if there were any buyers for it. Microsoft was still a terrible company in the Clippy era, there just were fewer opportunities to be terrible in this particular way at the time.
hmm, I'm only starting a discussion to enjoy and farm karma tbh, but you surprised me. In my experience, only normie stuff, political propaganda (chad Trump, Putin or my country's governor) or women in little to no clothing constitute the whole of your recommendation if you don't use an account. Even on new phone, new sim card data.
Sure, I don't use the youtube algorithm. You could just use any alternative fronted like grayjay (unfortunately made by this guy above) or newpipe. Then you don't fall prey to the algorithm but rather have a feed based on your own subscriptions.
Louis should know better, and that makes me wonder about his intentions. I've supported him in the past but this just has me confused.
Edit: I'm not entirely sure this is malicious, but I think he knows that this goes against his own advice on how to start change, and is too stubborn to admit it.
Clippy already was a big step in the wrong direction from Microsoft, i'm not gonna celebrate mistakes of the past because they seem benign in comparison to todays mistakes.
Clippy wasnt a bad idea, especially in an era where computers were just becoming mainstream. But just like most microsoft's products, the poor implementation made it useless and annoying...
This comment section does not understand what Rossmann's trying to do. Obviously google, facebook etc. are not going to fall to the ground with tears in their eyes with this. It's more about building and organizing the community, to make them feel their not alone and something can and should be taken back. This is analogous to how 4chan making Trump their meme candidate helped him out a fair bit.
The real question is of course whether or not anyone is gonna do something past changing their profile pictures.
I give this trend a couple of months. Maximum a year and then a bunch of people will have clippy avatars and everything will go back to normal.
Something like Stop Killing Games was an initiative that only survived because one man dedicated a good portion of his life to get the issue brought before the eyes of actual politicians. Even before the pirate software drama, Ross had been talking about this issue for years and many people agreed, but nobody did anything except for Ross. Maybe the petition would have reached its goal without piratesoftware's initial meddling. Maybe it wouldn't. His subsequent sperging turned failure into success, but the issue is still in process to be reviewed and maybe it will be a win, maybe the lobbyists will shut it down. We don't know yet. But without Ross' stubbornness, nothing would be done.
Imagine if Ross had told gamers to change their profile pic to pacman to show game companies and consumers that "we dont agree with the companies' practices? That would be a total joke.
Yes I agree, doing absolutely nothing and getting fucked in the process is so much easier! /s Nobody expects this to do anything, it's about signaling to others that there are likeminded people who don't tolerate bullshit like "random corp bricks consumers devices" anymore.
Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn't do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn't. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.
You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it's not gonna change anything.
If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn't matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you're just gonna continue to use their products.
The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can't be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. "Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again".
Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?
Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.
I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.
Hey, don't you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s
Lol, did people do that? I only remember the black square for the blm movement, but I have also never really been on Twitter, so most of what I know about trends on that platform is what has been shared on other platforms.
I do really think that one of the things we have to do as collective, is something somewhat impossible but, We need to pick the things we really care about. Limit ourselves from the everything that we have been offered for so long and find what brings us joy specifically and start following and protecting that and doing it off the Internet, or at least the at large big players. Find artists in our spaces locally that make the comedy, or comics, or stories, the developers that make their own games and movies that dont outsource their work to others so that it no longer feels like art.
We can still have globalised sharing and our spaces can support that by raising up the best of the best naturally through communication and sharing but not just by being told it's gonna be big or given to us easily.
The only way out feels like we as a collective need to start putting work into cultivating and tending to our fandoms and we cant be as greedy as it will take more work. Im fine with us being an insatiable species craving for more cause its how we don't stop, and i want new artists and new creators and new spaces. But i think we cant be lazy about it anymore. And i think doubly so we cant think we can do all of it.
Problem is that the majority of people are not going to do any of that because it takes work and people either don't want to let go of comforts, they don't care enough or they don't have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.
It will probably only gain traction if it becomes the cool thing to do among young people and even then, it will most likely be a smaller number of young people who will bother doing all of this.
The rest will become really good at prompting their way through life because its easier, more comfortable and takes the least effort.
Yeah i mean that seems likely with how things are going but also things rarely go exactly to plan.
Im a realist so, i accept that it is entirely possible its gonna keep getting worse. I'm just also a sucker for optimism and maybe someday it will be better.
Probably not tomorrow or next year... Probably gonna be a lot more of this for a while.
Hold on to your optimism! We need people like you.
I consider myself a pessimistic optimist. Things probably aren't gonna happen the way we hoped, but we will adapt and make some lemonade with what we are given.
It's so rare that hyped movements go anywhere because the focus is always on the wrong things, but in the long term, if companies make it increasingly obnoxious to use their services, people will most likely silently make the move to open source through word of mouth. It isn't as sexy and bombastic as making clippy your avatar and doing armchair V for Vendetta protests, but it's through people's silent choices that change will gradually happen. Whether or not this change will be felt on a grand scale, I don't know. I also don't really care. I just believe that over time, more and more people will eventually turn their back on the big tech companies while the rest will stick around either out of indifference or ignorance and that is their right too.
Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn't.
Google+ was Google's attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn't to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don't have access to the full social graph that Meta does.
It wasn't a complete failure. Before Google+ Google's various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they're able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they'd been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There's so much interpersonal data they're missing out on.
how are there so many low iq comments about other mascot suggestions. rossman is doing something and he got traction. any people eternally caught in argument about details will never get the momentum to do anything. i used to not like clippy just like a lot of people, don't get me wrong, but just focus on the important core idea, and the large exposure that is unique for the current moment and finally gives a glimmer of hope.
Traction is indeed important. But people also get exhausted (how many folk were whinging about "first I needed to make my avatar a rainbow and now it needs to be black? Oh, you mean a black box. Whoopsie" back in 2020?). It is why "just do something, it doesn't matter what" is such a stupid fucking mentality because you waste the general good will towards pointless slacktivism and then people stop caring by the time you have an idea of how to utilize them.
Which... is where the Rossman comes in. I have a lot of issues with him as a human being but as an activist he is REALLY effective... for Right to Repair... for repair shops. But he has also made his career on convincing everyday people that he is fighting for them when he is really using them as ammunition for making sure his repair shop (that totally doesn't violate any labor laws...) can stay running because OBVIOUSLY this lobbyist movement to support activity that requires a full hotplate and high powered microscope is something that everyday consumers care about (sort of in the sense of having options, but at this scale the poison pill apple compliance is actually probably just as good, if not better, for consumers)
I haven't been able to even find a good explanation of what this is even supposed to accomplish. But, dime to a dollar, it is Rossman et al demonstrating how quickly he can mobilize The Internet as a negotiating tactic for whatever he and his lobbyist buddies are pushing on right now.
Im actually fine with "just do something" mentality.
Cause if every person did to the limit of what they are capable of things would still change.
For Rossman the limit of what he is capable of might be changing laws via his followers so he can keep his repair shop running. For others it might be legal efforts. For some it could be talking directly to their parents who are the wealthy overlords, and for some it might mean running themselves. And for some its just beinf oart of a chorus that shouts what they believe in. It has worked for religion for so long.
We are a numbers species. We arent as clever as we think and individuals actually rarely get anything singularly done themselves. But we cant stop at whats easy but what is within our reach. If everyone "did what they can" to make the world a better place, we just might have a shot at it.
And we only have power when we act in numbers towards a focused goal.
This is why we (should) have (more) Unions instead of just "Negotiate for yourself and everyone will benefit". And that, inherently, needs leaders who know how to work towards a shared purpose.
Everyone should work towards making the world a better place. But we also need to understand what we are actually working towards and what those "somethings" actually can accomplish.
It's easy to say we just need the unions and groups but we need to build them by people just starting.
We definitely need to pick people to lead us better and not lazily accept people saying they are the right person to lead simply because they are. It helps when we have a shared idea of what better is.
I didn't set my pfp to clippy mainly because I'm lazy and don't really comment on Youtube.
People complaining people are only doing this to follow a trend are completely right. BUT! some of those trend chasers might actually stop and think about the message, and might realized we're all being scammed by modern tech/software companies.
I ain't expecting some mass protest or anything, but it's at the very least a small handful more people giving a shit about their relationship with technology. As apposed to most who just throw their information and money at any sign-up page that asks.
It's hard to tell really, when even PewDiePie is making videos about DeGoogling and switching to foss and Linux. You know how influential he is among gen z (or gen Alpha, I'm not really sure).
I believe 'avatar' was generally changed to match Xbox and others using the term to describe full body digital expressions of the user, like the Xbox 360 avatars. I grew up knowing it as profile picture, but now I've changed my social messenger of choice to XMPP I'm seeing it referred to as an avatar again
PM->DM was a mix of making it more obvious that those were NOT private in the slightest and to better align with marketing ("send a Direct Message to the celebrity you are stalking!")
I am not sure when "pfp" took over but I've noticed over the past 3 or 4 months a LOT of random requests for a DM on discord of people asking where I got my pfp... which is literally a screenshot from a cartoon in the 00s. So I assume this is related to selling avatars to people on the game social networks?
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No, simply because I've never commented on youtube, so it'd be pretty useless, if not counterproductive. Giving even more information about my political/tech ethics to Alphabet doesn't seem smart nor useful in my position. Also, I don't even watch youtube videos on their website now. I usually use invidious instances or newpipe.
But I'm not against people doing it, especially if the ultimate goal is spreading awareness and building a community of people with privacy oriented ideas.
I'm on the same boat, except for the part about not using Youtube. Unfortunately I'm caught in that spiral where I watch every clickbait_y video about new programming language, new tech stack ...ect. Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ? My experience wasn't going that well, also Youtube is so good because of the bandwidth and you easily switch quality.
Are you able to watch every video normally with invidious and newpipe on Desktop (Linux/Windows) ?
In my experience, yes. For desktop usage you can use invidious from browser and freetube [https://freetubeapp.io/] as external client/software (but I've never used Freetube so I can't comment on that). Newpipe is android only and I HIGHLY recommend it if you have Android.
The problem with invidious instances is that sometimes they get pretty laggy because of server overloads (I guess? honestly idk). You also don't have your account tailored recommendation, but in my experience you can jump around a lot, especially if your main interest are programming videos.
Another method I use is downloading the videos I'm interested into using JDownloader 2, but that's pretty extreme and I relied on this to combat my "algorithm addiction". Got fed up by it months ago, so I put my favourite channels on a RSS feeds and downloaded only the videos I was truly interested into. Usually downloading videos require way less bandwidth than streaming.
I remember using Newpipe before my Android device got stolen, but back then I got recommended so much normie stuff, and comment were flooded with nsfw accounts (weird profile pictures)
If I remember correctly you can use ReVanced to login into your Youtube account and have an experience similar to Newpipe. You'd probably have better recommendations (the bot comments depends on the channel though). I've never looked into it, but it seems a popular choice.
Clippy is becoming a shared symbol. The idea it represents is that: we are not happy with the way companies lock us out of our own devices. We want to be allowed to do whatever we want with the hardware we bought. We want to be able to repair it. We want privacy when using it... Etc...
Kinda, but also that Clippy (real name Clippit, as it happens) was included as a feature that was genuinely intended to be helpful. Like, that's not to say it was successful, or appreciated, but that it came from a time when you could buy a product in the expectation that you'd own it, you could keep it and it'd work for you, not for someone else.
Nothing stands out very far regarding the negatives. I could speculate to a few things, though. He's not a Socialist. When the going got tough for him and his business he uprooted and moved out of NYC to Texas. I can't really think of anything else objectionable. I actually like him, though so I may be biased.
For the positives, he's helped drive a lot of the Right to Repair legislation in this country as he's reported a lot of discussions he's had with real legislators. He runs a website for mac product repair as a reference that also operates as a non-profit. He runs a daytime business repairing mac products that employs several other people. Generally he posts a lot to keep people up to date increasingly as an electronics-oriented influencer, but he used to post mac repair videos almost exclusively and he talked about having to navigate Apple's influence on regulating the second-hand market. He has also given platform to a number of other mac & electronic repair people.
To me he seems to talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk when it comes to Right to Repair, but like I said, I might be biased.
Overall what he promotes/fights for are good things. But in short what I don't like about him is: - he believes to be the morals authority - the standards he is advocating for don't apply to him (for example fighting for open source just to release an app which isn't open source)
I've seen this posted before, so it's definitely been discussed on Lemmy before. Reading the comments back then is much like reading the comments here, Clippy does not really seem fit as a corporation fighting symbol and frankly changing your pfp will most likely have no impact to Youtubes management. Why not simply go for a Reddit blackout kind of protest where everyone switches all their videos to unlisted or blocking monetization on their videos (if that is possible)? That will surely get the attention of Youtube.
Well the whole reddit thing was just a bunch of volunteer mods. On the other hand, many YouTubers make a career out of the platform. Considering their livelihoods are at stake, and the vast number of YouTubers you would need to get on board to make google actually care? Organizing such a thing would be anything but simple.
I think the Reddit blackout did a lot, just not everything. I'm here on Lemmy because of it. Granted I'm still on Reddit as well, and Mastodon, and Xitter...
Just keep plugging along, and every little bit helps.
The goal is to show each other we are many. He explained it in another video, the clippy movement actually had an impact. This is simply the first step for organising as a group around a shared idea: using a common symbol. It doesn't matter what the symbol is, as long as we recognize each other using it.
From the same business geniuses that though that having you pay a fee to be allowed to pick a seat next to your other family members in an airplane was a good idea...
Y know this comment section-and every other i see when this vid comes up- is a perfect illustration of why the left always loses. We would rather criticize everything/anything than DO anything. Who fucking CARES if they care, if the notice, if it matters or affects anything??? Who fucking CARES who/what the mascot is??? The message is something im reasonably sure 99.99 percent of usernames in this particular commie off brand reddit corner of the internet AGREE WITH. Yet. We sit here shouting at each other and arguing over each fucking comment, nuance and semantic instead of doing even the tiniest, most trivial resistance... this more than anything is why the left is so useless and despicable, as a movement. Theyre too busy shooting each other in the feet to notice the race is already over. MORONS.
There's a lesson I learnt from playing team games: If your teammate makes a bad call that you disagree with, you should still follow them 100%. Going all-in on a questionable decision is almost always better than second guessing each other.
I think it applies here, and it's why right wingers and religions are so effective. They don't care if their arguments are flawed or their leader is a rapist, they're jumping into that fight every time.
Not an online gamer, but I heard a similar sentiment from a boss about 20 years ago. He told me "if you make a mistake one time, I got your back, but we'll speak in private and I'll counsel you. Make the mistake again, I'll let my pen do the talking. Make it a third time, you're off the team."
It escalates quickly, but his management style helped us learn from the mistakes. Sometimes the second time happened. But everyone was willing to go to war with this guy. I mean, proverbially. This was also a guy who would bring his grill to work and cook for everyone one weekend a month. Companies that say you're family, big red flag. A boss who walks the walk as well as talks the talk? Huge green flag.
actually I recognize this one more. I only know about clippy from retro computing videos, but I remember this dog and that sorcerer clearly when searching stuff (now that I mention it, Windows' search sucks nonetheless)
I genuinely do think it's a great way to bring people together and give people a sense of common purpose, like a rallying cry or something. Sure the symbol might not be perfect, but it's better than nothing!
Those businesses give no flying fucks about signals you're angry; they only care about money. So unless you use the Clippy avatars to mobilise people and to hurt those businesses' revenues, it'll do nothing.
(For YouTube, this means to stop or at least reduce platform usage. After all its revenue comes from ads.)
Terribile fu l’esperienza, per diversi secoli, degli equipaggi che intendevano spostarsi con le proprie imbarcazioni negli spazi tra i diversi continenti, particolarmente se necessitavano di oltrepassare le propaggini meridionali della Terra del Fuoc…
What kinds of political content thrive on TikTok during an election year? Our analysis of 51,680 political videos from the 2024 U.S. presidential cycle reveals that toxic and partisan content consistently attracts more user engagement—despite ongoing moderation efforts. Posts about immigration and election fraud, in particular, draw high levels of toxicity and attention. While Republican-leaning videos tend to reach more viewers, Democratic-leaning ones generate more active interactions like comments and shares. As TikTok becomes an important news source for many young voters, these patterns raise questions about how algorithmic curation might amplify divisive narratives and reshape political discourse.
This study offers one of the first empirical examinations of how partisanship, political toxicity, and topical focus—such as immigration, racism, and election fraud—shaped user engagement with TikTok videos during the 2024 U.S. presidential election.
The analysis was drawn from 51,680 political videos on TikTok, using models adjusted for feed ranking, user behavior (author, music, posting time), and platform engagement metrics.
The majority of videos analyzed (77%) were explicitly partisan and were associated with approximately twice the engagement of nonpartisan content. Republican-leaning videos received more views, while Democratic-leaning ones showed more interactions—measured by total likes, comments, and shares.
Toxic videos were associated with 2.3% more interactions. Partisan content also tended to show higher engagement, with Democratic-leaning toxic videos linked to even higher interactions.
Racism, antisemitism, and election fraud were among the most toxic topics, with toxicity defined as rude or disrespectful language. Toxic videos on elections (+1.3%) and immigration (+3.5%) received higher engagement.
Toxicity and engagement levels changed after major political events. Following Trump’s conviction, videos with severe toxicity and sexual attacks saw an approximate 2% surge in interactions.
Captions alone were weak predictors of partisanship and toxicity, but transcripts of the audio from the videos improved alignment with manual labels (68.2%) and had significantly more (56.2%) toxic content. These results highlight the limitations of surface-level text features and the need for multimodal analysis in political content detection.
What I really don't get is that there are in fact models that you can feed a document too and they will directly copy/paste quote relevant parts of that document in their reply complete with a little reference to the correct page. Basically a smarter ctrl-F function that can take sentences as input.
When that exists why is google using the probabilistic shit in their search?
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Intel Corporation today announced an agreement with the Trump Administration to support the continued expansion of American technology and manufacturing leadership. Under terms of the agreement, the United States government will make an $8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock, reflecting the confidence the Administration has in Intel to advance key national priorities and the critically important role the company plays in expanding the domestic semiconductor industry.
The government’s equity stake will be funded by the remaining $5.7 billion in grants previously awarded, but not yet paid, to Intel under the U.S. CHIPS and Science Act and $3.2 billion awarded to the company as part of the Secure Enclave program. Intel will continue to deliver on its Secure Enclave obligations and reaffirmed its commitment to delivering trusted and secure semiconductors to the U.S. Department of Defense. The $8.9 billion investment is in addition to the $2.2 billion in CHIPS grants Intel has received to date, making for a total investment of $11.1 billion.
It is my Great Honor to report that the United States of America now fully owns and controls 10% of INTEL, a Great American Company that has an even more incredible future.
Nearly 70 percent of popular Japanese smartphone games have introduced external payment systems for items and services to avoid hefty commission fees from U.S. tech giants Google LLC and Apple Inc., a Kyodo News tally showed.
“There is literally no other intervention in our field that impacts burnout to this extent,” says Rebecca Mishuris, chief medical information officer at Mass General Brigham.
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Ahead of the DNC's summer meeting, Our Revolution delivered a petition urging the ban of dark money in presidential primaries. Will the DNC prioritize voters over billionaire donors? #BanDarkMoney
"For those of us focused on progressive social change," says the board chair of Our Revolution, secretive spending by corporations and the ultra-rich "has blocked candidates committed to our entire agenda including workers' rights, Gaza ceasefire…
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Cory Doctorow’s new book is an insightful diagnosis of how Big Tech is making every app and website worse—even if his solutions leave something to be desired.
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In the early hours of the morning on 16 February, US citizen Zaher Ibrahim, his wife and two of his children were asleep in their home in the occupied West Bank.
They woke to loud banging and shouting outside.
eli non mi sembra che sia possibile operare una ricerca per istanza, ma potresti provare a vedere cosa succede scrivendo il dominio nella casella di ricerca
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Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free from custody and en route to Maryland, where he will await trial with his family. His lawyers argue he is facing a "vindictive" prosecution by the Justice Department.
Unless the Trump administration chooses to renew the compensation program former nuclear weapons employees who are hoping to receive assistance with their medical payments will no longer have the opportunity.
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in reply to lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII • • •Someone (well, something) who doesn't violate you because he can't, not because he wouldn't, is not a good example.
Like, Thomas Edison didn't sell me out using his light bulb. Not because he was a good person, because he physically couldn't. If he were alive today he absolutely would.
lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII
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in reply to safesyrup • • •MacAnus
in reply to cyrano • • •And to continue my reply to your other comment, using libre office or an alternative won't have that rallying cry effect, since you're doing it on your own.
It sounds dumb but many people won't do what they believe is right if they're alone and if the alternative is easier.
safesyrup
in reply to cyrano • • •MacAnus
in reply to cyrano • • •Try to forget about the weird mascot choice. It's just a rallying cry.
I also don't really get why the clippy and he probably could have picked a better avatar for people to use.
The point is (I think) that people who know what it's about will feel the support of all these strangers sharing their view, and people who don't know might look it up and get sensibilized to the cause.
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metaStatic
in reply to zaknenou • • •We don't discuss companies screwing us here but us screwing companies.
I think the clippy movement is cute so yes I'm wearing the mask, just let me know when we're blowing up parliament.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Well, go ahead. Discuss it. I don't know what it is.
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Lumidaub
in reply to zaknenou • • •Yep, not just there. I don't know if it's going to change anything fundamental but I agree with the sentiment and if nothing else, it's a statement of solidarity with other people who might feel like everybody around them is giving in to the slopshittification.
I don't know what being American or otherwise has to do with it btw.
Fizz
in reply to zaknenou • • •I'm not changing my PFP to a Microsoft product in hopes Microsoft stops fucking people. Slackativism is cringe.
I just move away to freedom respecting tech and talk about it with the people around me.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •It is very silly.
The video is monetized, and by having some ppl change their pfp to clippy and then linking to his video - I mean congrats to Mr. Rossmann for the big $$$
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in reply to k0e3 • • •I agree with what you’re saying but you REALLY 100% write like an LLM
Edit: you are an LLM which is worse
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in reply to Rai • • •I've interacted with k0e3 in the past, they're no LLM. Even then, a quick profile check shows it. But you didn't check it, right? Of course you didn't, it's easier to vomit assumptions and re-eat your own vomit, right?
And the comment's "tone" isn't even remotely close to typical LLM output dammit. LLMs avoid words like "bullshit", contracting "it is not" into "it's not" (instead of "it isn't"), or writing in first person. The only thing resembling LLM output is the em dash usage—but there are a thousand potential reasons for that.
(inb4 assumer claims I'm also an LLM because I just used an em dash and listed three items.)
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in reply to k0e3 • • •He became famous for fixing computers, mostly Apple products, while complaining about how bad Apple Genius bars were, and how unfair Apple's business practices are. I can respect that, and it was good that someone was speaking up about it.
You'd expect someone like that to be pro-regulation, anti-monopoly, pro-union, etc. But, it does seem like his motivation is more libertarian, and that's what makes me worry.
metaStatic
in reply to generaldenmark • • •Crazy thing is he also uploads to Odysee and paid to develop grayjay, I'm not even subscribed to his youtube channel and thanks to him I'm moving as many subs off the platform as possible. Quite a few creators upload all their shit to other platforms.
also if you're watching someone who advocates for adblockers without using one yourself that's on you.
nooneescapesthelaw
in reply to generaldenmark • • •He barely makes money off of these videos (negligible) and encourages all his users to use adblockers.
Given his target audience I'm sure he's at the lower end of the money paid per view. Also he could've taken a sponsorship on anyone of his hundreds of videos but he has not so far, so not really big $$$
Banzai51
in reply to generaldenmark • • •masterspace
in reply to zaknenou • • •Rai
in reply to masterspace • • •What, saying popular opinions out loud?!
I don’t like him
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MacAnus
in reply to masterspace • • •Liking to hear himself rant is not a quality in my book..
I don't like the way he speaks but he's all (I should say mostly, I don't watch all of his videos) about consumer rights which ...
How can you not like that?
Sure his delivery method is not for everyone but listen through his salt-coated style and you'll find he brings up many important points.
E: corrected autocorrect
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klangcola
in reply to Chozo • • •On the other hand, seeing this symbol more and more on other random videos outside that bubble does give a very nice sense of "I am not alone". It does more for users to find eachother than it does damage to big corpos.
But choice of the symbol itself is questionable.. Why use a big tech symbol to protest big tech? -__-
And not just any big tech, but super evil 90s monopolistic giant Microsoft
There's a nice cartoon in this thread we're clippy is if he could have, he would have harvest all your data.
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cyrano
in reply to klangcola • • •There are better actions to take like being on fediverse instead of Reddit or other social media platforms or using libre office.
I get the rant but an avatar change doesn’t mean anything.
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asudox
in reply to cyrano • • •It's mostly idiots who want to be part of something and some that "don't like" what is happening and "want" change but put in the least possible amount of effort pathetically to attempt to cause a change, and this only when someone popular suggests.
They never really want to stop using the product. It's like drug addicts trying to make drugs less addicting by "protesting" against the very thing they use (and will keep using) literally everyday.
Nangijala
in reply to klangcola • • •Personally, I have more of a "I'm not alone" feeling when I actively leave services that I disagree with and through word of mouth find alternatives where I can talk to people who seem to have the same base values I do. Even if we disagree on other things.
It's the laziness of this initiative that drives me up a wall. People want change but they don't want to work for or sacrifice anything for it.
cyrano
in reply to Nangijala • • •ToxicWaste
in reply to Nangijala • • •we can argue about the choice of symbol until the world ends. the symbol is just a thing people can recognise and rally around.
the first step of any movement is to gather people. then do something. so yes, changing a picture is lazy, but it is a virtual rally point. he talks about next steps in another video: odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/yo…
You Changed Your Profile to Clippy: Now What? 📎📎📎
OdyseeNangijala
in reply to ToxicWaste • • •Good on him that he's actually planning on doing something more than just have ppl change their avatar. Maybe he should have put that in the original video instead of getting mad that people are calling him out for slacktivism.
Also, I have not argued the choice of symbol at any point. I don't care what image people put as their profile pic. What I was arguing was that it is weak to change your profile pic for a cause if you then keep using the products you're protesting against.
If he and the people joining his movement actually manage to make positive change, then I'm all for it. It just wasn't clear in his first video that he had ambitions to actively have laws changed. It sounded like he wanted people to change their pics that that would somehow make everybody rebel against their corporate overlords. If he didn't want people to think that was his movement, he should have elaborated in the same video instead of playing coy and splitting it up into two videos where he gets to call the critics of his movement apathetic idiots.
Good luck to him and those who join the movement. I hope they manage to make some changes.
ToxicWaste
in reply to Nangijala • • •sometimes you don't have to (or can't) have a full plan A-Z. Sometimes you just have to start somewhere - usually with gathering ppl. euromaidan is a great example of that.
but yes, louis could have put more concrete plans in his first video. as he has them. on the other hand he probably throws many things and sees what sticks. i guess that is what you have to do, if you try to change legislation against corpos with much more everything than you.
Nangijala
in reply to ToxicWaste • • •And that is fair. If he's the type to throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks before he goes into making more detailed plans, then cool. But him sitting and getting pissy about people who criticized him and calling them names is a very unselfaware move. Of he's a throw shit at the wall guy, he has to deal with the fact that people can't read his mind and that he will have to clarify like an adult and talk to his critics with respect. If he can't handle valid criticism to his poorly communicated video, he should probably change tactics and not be a throw shit at the wall guy anymore.
Again, I wish him the best of luck with his movement as he seems to have the drive to actually getting things done. I just don't respect his attitude about the criticism he received.
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in reply to cyrano • • •Clippy symbolizes the attachment our generation has to the old state of software:
- you bought it? Then it runs offline for sure!
- nothing runs on background, except if you turn it on (Yes I never turned on Windows default protection on Win xp or win 7
- You bought? You own it, you format it, you don't pay for subscription, and there is practically nothing stopping you from modifying it if you go hacker.
On top of that Clippy looks cute. Personally I'm not participating in the movement since I'm not American, but imo the choice does make sense.
While I'm typing from Ubuntu, I only switched to Linux cuz I can't get back to the old state of win xp or win 7 that was perfect imo. While some are trying to convert people into Linux, others are trying to restore the corporate business to the old acceptable state.
Neither will succeed alone, and in fact those companies are using resources of your country to produce this shit, so it makes sense that you demand it to not suck that hard.
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in reply to cyrano • • •Microsoft employee disrupts 50th anniversary and calls AI boss 'war profiteer' - Invidious
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in reply to zaknenou • • •No. Deleted my WhatsApp account though.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Let me blow your mind even more: I don't access the YouTube website at all, and therefore I never see their recommendations.
I use FreeTube.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Louis should know better, and that makes me wonder about his intentions. I've supported him in the past but this just has me confused.
Edit: I'm not entirely sure this is malicious, but I think he knows that this goes against his own advice on how to start change, and is too stubborn to admit it.
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in reply to spez • • •The real question is of course whether or not anyone is gonna do something past changing their profile pictures.
I give this trend a couple of months. Maximum a year and then a bunch of people will have clippy avatars and everything will go back to normal.
Something like Stop Killing Games was an initiative that only survived because one man dedicated a good portion of his life to get the issue brought before the eyes of actual politicians. Even before the pirate software drama, Ross had been talking about this issue for years and many people agreed, but nobody did anything except for Ross. Maybe the petition would have reached its goal without piratesoftware's initial meddling. Maybe it wouldn't. His subsequent sperging turned failure into success, but the issue is still in process to be reviewed and maybe it will be a win, maybe the lobbyists will shut it down. We don't know yet. But without Ross' stubbornness, nothing would be done.
Imagine if Ross had told gamers to change their profile pic to pacman to show game companies and consumers that "we dont agree with the companies' practices? That would be a total joke.
lmmarsano
in reply to spez • • •It won't?
Well, that clinches it: I'm out.
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in reply to Tempus Fugit • • •Nobody expects this to do anything, it's about signaling to others that there are likeminded people who don't tolerate bullshit like "random corp bricks consumers devices" anymore.
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Nangijala
in reply to zaknenou • • •Pff. This reminds me of the This Is Bob protest against the forced Google+ accounts that were the beginning of youtube enshittification. It didn't do shit. Anyone who wants a profile on youtube nowadays has a Google account. Google+ may have failed but the intent and mission behind it didn't. Google has total control over anyone who wants to use YouTube now.
You can set clippy as your profile pic and feel like you have done something, but it's not gonna change anything.
If people want to actually do something, they should abandon these predatory services and go open source or maybe become anti tech as much as possible. It doesn't matter whether or not you signal to the Zuckerburgers on top how you feel if you're just gonna continue to use their products.
The only thing that would scare them would be the numbers plummeting if they saw a mass exodus from their platforms and services and people actively began looking for alternatives. But most people can't be fucked to do that because they are too enmeshed with these services that it is easier to stay. But putting clippy as your profile pic is super easy and costs you nothing so yay. You get to feel like you did something without actually sacrificing anything to make change and the Zuckerburgers will look at you and shrug. "Ah, the peasants are blowing off some steam again".
Sorry for being so negative, but this is honestly so fucking weak. I may have missed something, but when has slacktivism ever changed the minds of these companies?
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outhouseperilous
in reply to Nangijala • • •Only one thing you can do to these bloated lizard-ass fuckers sipping boy-blood and soaking in little girl pussy on the most otherwise beautiful land in the world as the paranoiac securitization gradually creeps out from them building seemingly spontaneous bunker complexes everywhere they step will ever dissuade any of them from literally anything.
I do of course mean voting. You should vote for them.
pezhore
in reply to Nangijala • • •Hey, don't you remember how changing your Twitter profile picture to have a green overlay encouraged the Arab Spring to bring lasting democracy all over the Middle East?!? /s
Nangijala
in reply to pezhore • • •Krauerking
in reply to Nangijala • • •I do really think that one of the things we have to do as collective, is something somewhat impossible but,
We need to pick the things we really care about. Limit ourselves from the everything that we have been offered for so long and find what brings us joy specifically and start following and protecting that and doing it off the Internet, or at least the at large big players.
Find artists in our spaces locally that make the comedy, or comics, or stories, the developers that make their own games and movies that dont outsource their work to others so that it no longer feels like art.
We can still have globalised sharing and our spaces can support that by raising up the best of the best naturally through communication and sharing but not just by being told it's gonna be big or given to us easily.
The only way out feels like we as a collective need to start putting work into cultivating and tending to our fandoms and we cant be as greedy as it will take more work. Im fine with us being an insatiable species craving for more cause its how we don't stop, and i want new artists and new creators and new spaces. But i think we cant be lazy about it anymore. And i think doubly so we cant think we can do all of it.
Nangijala
in reply to Krauerking • • •Problem is that the majority of people are not going to do any of that because it takes work and people either don't want to let go of comforts, they don't care enough or they don't have the energy to be digital activists after they have finished a day of work.
It will probably only gain traction if it becomes the cool thing to do among young people and even then, it will most likely be a smaller number of young people who will bother doing all of this.
The rest will become really good at prompting their way through life because its easier, more comfortable and takes the least effort.
Chahk
in reply to Nangijala • • •Good news! With the rate corporations are laying off and firing workers, pretty soon they will have plenty of time for activism.
/S
Krauerking
in reply to Nangijala • • •Yeah i mean that seems likely with how things are going but also things rarely go exactly to plan.
Im a realist so, i accept that it is entirely possible its gonna keep getting worse. I'm just also a sucker for optimism and maybe someday it will be better.
Probably not tomorrow or next year... Probably gonna be a lot more of this for a while.
Nangijala
in reply to Krauerking • • •Hold on to your optimism! We need people like you.
I consider myself a pessimistic optimist. Things probably aren't gonna happen the way we hoped, but we will adapt and make some lemonade with what we are given.
It's so rare that hyped movements go anywhere because the focus is always on the wrong things, but in the long term, if companies make it increasingly obnoxious to use their services, people will most likely silently make the move to open source through word of mouth. It isn't as sexy and bombastic as making clippy your avatar and doing armchair V for Vendetta protests, but it's through people's silent choices that change will gradually happen. Whether or not this change will be felt on a grand scale, I don't know. I also don't really care. I just believe that over time, more and more people will eventually turn their back on the big tech companies while the rest will stick around either out of indifference or ignorance and that is their right too.
merc
in reply to Nangijala • • •Google+ was Google's attempt to take on Facebook with its own social product. It definitely failed, and the intent and mission failed too. That isn't to say that they have no social data, but they definitely don't have access to the full social graph that Meta does.
It wasn't a complete failure. Before Google+ Google's various products were all siloed. Your data in gmail was in a different silo from you data from search, which was different from your data from Google Reader, etc. As part of the Google+ push, Google put out an EULA that basically said that it could share data from any google product you used with any other google product you used and it was one big unified account now. Thanks to that, they're able to target their ads based on much more data. But, they still wish they'd been able to get a Facebook competitor up and running so they could see more clearly who your friends and family were. There's so much interpersonal data they're missing out on.
SitD
in reply to zaknenou • • •NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to SitD • • •The issue is what this even accomplishes.
Traction is indeed important. But people also get exhausted (how many folk were whinging about "first I needed to make my avatar a rainbow and now it needs to be black? Oh, you mean a black box. Whoopsie" back in 2020?). It is why "just do something, it doesn't matter what" is such a stupid fucking mentality because you waste the general good will towards pointless slacktivism and then people stop caring by the time you have an idea of how to utilize them.
Which... is where the Rossman comes in. I have a lot of issues with him as a human being but as an activist he is REALLY effective... for Right to Repair... for repair shops. But he has also made his career on convincing everyday people that he is fighting for them when he is really using them as ammunition for making sure his repair shop (that totally doesn't violate any labor laws...) can stay running because OBVIOUSLY this lobbyist movement to support activity that requires a full hotplate and high powered microscope is something that everyday consumers care about (sort of in the sense of having options, but at this scale the poison pill apple compliance is actually probably just as good, if not better, for consumers)
I haven't been able to even find a good explanation of what this is even supposed to accomplish. But, dime to a dollar, it is Rossman et al demonstrating how quickly he can mobilize The Internet as a negotiating tactic for whatever he and his lobbyist buddies are pushing on right now.
Krauerking
in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •Im actually fine with "just do something" mentality.
Cause if every person did to the limit of what they are capable of things would still change.
For Rossman the limit of what he is capable of might be changing laws via his followers so he can keep his repair shop running. For others it might be legal efforts. For some it could be talking directly to their parents who are the wealthy overlords, and for some it might mean running themselves. And for some its just beinf oart of a chorus that shouts what they believe in.
It has worked for religion for so long.
We are a numbers species. We arent as clever as we think and individuals actually rarely get anything singularly done themselves. But we cant stop at whats easy but what is within our reach.
If everyone "did what they can" to make the world a better place, we just might have a shot at it.
NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to Krauerking • • •And we only have power when we act in numbers towards a focused goal.
This is why we (should) have (more) Unions instead of just "Negotiate for yourself and everyone will benefit". And that, inherently, needs leaders who know how to work towards a shared purpose.
Everyone should work towards making the world a better place. But we also need to understand what we are actually working towards and what those "somethings" actually can accomplish.
Krauerking
in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •Yeah. Agreed but chicken or the egg right?
It's easy to say we just need the unions and groups but we need to build them by people just starting.
We definitely need to pick people to lead us better and not lazily accept people saying they are the right person to lead simply because they are.
It helps when we have a shared idea of what better is.
probable_possum
in reply to zaknenou • • •So that I will get ads for office products?
zaknenou
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in reply to zaknenou • • •oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]
in reply to zaknenou • • •That would require having a YouTube/Google account, so no
BussyGyatt
in reply to zaknenou • • •HouseWolf
in reply to zaknenou • • •Okay two things.
I didn't set my pfp to clippy mainly because I'm lazy and don't really comment on Youtube.
People complaining people are only doing this to follow a trend are completely right. BUT! some of those trend chasers might actually stop and think about the message, and might realized we're all being scammed by modern tech/software companies.
I ain't expecting some mass protest or anything, but it's at the very least a small handful more people giving a shit about their relationship with technology. As apposed to most who just throw their information and money at any sign-up page that asks.
zaknenou
in reply to HouseWolf • • •It's hard to tell really, when even PewDiePie is making videos about DeGoogling and switching to foss and Linux. You know how influential he is among gen z (or gen Alpha, I'm not really sure).
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in reply to Mugmoor • • •PM->DM was a mix of making it more obvious that those were NOT private in the slightest and to better align with marketing ("send a Direct Message to the celebrity you are stalking!")
I am not sure when "pfp" took over but I've noticed over the past 3 or 4 months a LOT of random requests for a DM on discord of people asking where I got my pfp... which is literally a screenshot from a cartoon in the 00s. So I assume this is related to selling avatars to people on the game social networks?
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Facebook reveals news feed experiment to control emotions
Robert Booth (The Guardian)Tm12
in reply to Lyra_Lycan • • •This was surfaced in Sarah Wynn-Williams’ book.
Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads
Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads
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in reply to zaknenou • • •No, simply because I've never commented on youtube, so it'd be pretty useless, if not counterproductive. Giving even more information about my political/tech ethics to Alphabet doesn't seem smart nor useful in my position. Also, I don't even watch youtube videos on their website now. I usually use invidious instances or newpipe.
But I'm not against people doing it, especially if the ultimate goal is spreading awareness and building a community of people with privacy oriented ideas.
zaknenou
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in reply to zaknenou • • •ganamasawa
in reply to zaknenou • • •In my experience, yes. For desktop usage you can use invidious from browser and freetube [https://freetubeapp.io/] as external client/software (but I've never used Freetube so I can't comment on that). Newpipe is android only and I HIGHLY recommend it if you have Android.
The problem with invidious instances is that sometimes they get pretty laggy because of server overloads (I guess? honestly idk). You also don't have your account tailored recommendation, but in my experience you can jump around a lot, especially if your main interest are programming videos.
Another method I use is downloading the videos I'm interested into using JDownloader 2, but that's pretty extreme and I relied on this to combat my "algorithm addiction". Got fed up by it months ago, so I put my favourite channels on a RSS feeds and downloaded only the videos I was truly interested into. Usually downloading videos require way less bandwidth than streaming.
(edited for spelling errors, eh)
FreeTube - The Private YouTube Client
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in reply to ganamasawa • • •Parola filtrata: nsfw
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Venia Silente
in reply to zaknenou • • •I don't work here.
TimewornTraveler
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in reply to TimewornTraveler • • •lazy copy of my comment in another thread:
here, the video which started all: odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/ch…
and where he goes a bit more into detail and talks about many of the points seen in this thread: odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/yo…
Change your profile picture to clippy. I'm serious
OdyseeBlueBaggy
in reply to zaknenou • • •xeroxguts
in reply to BlueBaggy • • •NauticalNoodle
in reply to xeroxguts • • •Nothing stands out very far regarding the negatives. I could speculate to a few things, though. He's not a Socialist. When the going got tough for him and his business he uprooted and moved out of NYC to Texas. I can't really think of anything else objectionable. I actually like him, though so I may be biased.
For the positives, he's helped drive a lot of the Right to Repair legislation in this country as he's reported a lot of discussions he's had with real legislators. He runs a website for mac product repair as a reference that also operates as a non-profit. He runs a daytime business repairing mac products that employs several other people. Generally he posts a lot to keep people up to date increasingly as an electronics-oriented influencer, but he used to post mac repair videos almost exclusively and he talked about having to navigate Apple's influence on regulating the second-hand market. He has also given platform to a number of other mac & electronic repair people.
To me he seems to talk-the-talk and walk-the-walk when it comes to Right to Repair, but like I said, I might be biased.
BlueBaggy
in reply to xeroxguts • • •- he believes to be the morals authority
- the standards he is advocating for don't apply to him (for example fighting for open source just to release an app which isn't open source)
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in reply to Ethanol • • •Well the whole reddit thing was just a bunch of volunteer mods. On the other hand, many YouTubers make a career out of the platform. Considering their livelihoods are at stake, and the vast number of YouTubers you would need to get on board to make google actually care? Organizing such a thing would be anything but simple.
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Randomgal
in reply to Nelots • • •Also the Reddit blackout did nothing. So I'm not why that's your reference point. Charging pfp would achieve exactly the same. Nothing.
Americans love their nothing burger demonstrations.
Grimpen
in reply to Randomgal • • •I think the Reddit blackout did a lot, just not everything. I'm here on Lemmy because of it. Granted I'm still on Reddit as well, and Mastodon, and Xitter...
Just keep plugging along, and every little bit helps.
Megaman_EXE
in reply to Randomgal • • •BlueMagma
in reply to Ethanol • • •This is simply the first step for organising as a group around a shared idea: using a common symbol.
It doesn't matter what the symbol is, as long as we recognize each other using it.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Profligate_Parasite
in reply to zaknenou • • •GiveOver
in reply to Profligate_Parasite • • •There's a lesson I learnt from playing team games: If your teammate makes a bad call that you disagree with, you should still follow them 100%. Going all-in on a questionable decision is almost always better than second guessing each other.
I think it applies here, and it's why right wingers and religions are so effective. They don't care if their arguments are flawed or their leader is a rapist, they're jumping into that fight every time.
cerebralhawks
in reply to GiveOver • • •Not an online gamer, but I heard a similar sentiment from a boss about 20 years ago. He told me "if you make a mistake one time, I got your back, but we'll speak in private and I'll counsel you. Make the mistake again, I'll let my pen do the talking. Make it a third time, you're off the team."
It escalates quickly, but his management style helped us learn from the mistakes. Sometimes the second time happened. But everyone was willing to go to war with this guy. I mean, proverbially. This was also a guy who would bring his grill to work and cook for everyone one weekend a month. Companies that say you're family, big red flag. A boss who walks the walk as well as talks the talk? Huge green flag.
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in reply to zaknenou • • •Changing your profile picture to Clippy to me seems the same as boomers posting "I DO NOT GIVE PERMISSION TO FACEBOOK".
Just delete your account and stop using it.
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Lvxferre [he/him]
in reply to zaknenou • • •Those businesses give no flying fucks about signals you're angry; they only care about money. So unless you use the Clippy avatars to mobilise people and to hurt those businesses' revenues, it'll do nothing.
(For YouTube, this means to stop or at least reduce platform usage. After all its revenue comes from ads.)
Where's that mobilisation? *cricket noises*
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