Tuberville said on YellowHammer News’ “Longshore and McKnight” show Friday. “It just makes you sick to your stomach that people try to change history.”
Says the same racist that tries to whitewash slavery.
MICROSOFT WORKERS HOLD A SIT-IN INSIDE EXECUTIVES’ BUILDING, RE-ESTABLISH THE LIBERATED ZONE IN THE LATEST ESCALATION AGAINST MICROSOFT
REDMOND, WASHINGTON – Moments ago, current and former Microsoft workers have re-established the Liberated Zone by holding a sit-in inside Microsoft executives’ Building 34, renaming it to “Mai Ubeid Building” in honor of Mai Ubeid, a Palestinian software engineer who was killed in Gaza by an Israeli air strike. The latest sit-in is part of a series of ongoing protests and disruptions happening today to protest Microsoft’s active role in the genocide of Palestinians.
Right before the sit-in, the group deployed noisemakers – attached to balloons – directly into the atrium of Building 34. During the sit-in, the workers and former workers occupied the office of Brad Smith, the current Microsoft president, delivering notices that read: “The People’s Court Summons Bradford Lee Smith on Charges of Crimes Against Humanity.” In addition, workers unfurled and hung two banners in the space: one that declares a renaming of Building 34 to “Mai Ubeid Building,” and another that repeats the demands of the liberated zone to Microsoft: 1. Cut ties with Israel 2. Call for an End to the Genocide and Forced Starvation 3. Pay Reparations to the Palestinians 4. End the Discrimination Against Workers
The workers and former workers chanted: “BRAD SMITH YOU CAN’T HIDE, YOU’RE SUPPORTING GENOCIDE! BRAD SMITH YOU’RE A LIAR! YOU SET PALESTINE ON FIRE! FREE PALESTINE.”
While the sit-in is taking place inside Brad Smith’s office in Building 34 – which is now on lockdown – current and former Microsoft workers and community members are holding an outside rally featuring a group on bikes that deployed artwork across various Microsoft signs on campus. Rally participants distributed copies of the Liberated Zone declaration: “We will not be cogs in the Israeli genocidal machine: a call for a Worker Intifada.” During the rally program, workers revealed an 18-foot scroll stating the No Azure for Apartheid demands with signatories of over 2,000 workers who signed the petition during the past 15 months since the petition launch.
No Azure for Apartheid organizers Nisreen Jaradat and Ibtihal Aboussad gave speeches at the rally. During her speech, Aboussad said: “You continue to try to bury your head in the sand, so we are here today outside your blood-soaked thrones, to continue pulling your baby-killer necks out of your sand holes and continue to force you to confront your complicity, until you stop powering the murdering our people!”
The congressman's office tells Sludge the defense contractor stocks were bought by an independent manager and that he will no longer be buying individual corporate stocks.
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We’re excited to announce the new Framework Laptop 16, now with AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series processors and a graphics upgrade to NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070 Laptop GPU!
Linus (not lmg) invested in the company. It's not the same thing. And he doesn't "partially own" anything. Also, linus' pr image kinda stinks. Specially after the GN debacle. The dude is a narcissist prick.
It's a long story and you can look up their videos on yt. Basically Linus is a narcissist who can do no wrong and the work culture at LMG is pretty crappy. Not just due to the pressure and quality of the videos being bad due to the high volume (that's why they don't post as often now) but also one of their former employees (Madison) said that she suffered abuse while working there. None of the higher ups gave a crap or did anything about it.
And when GN responded to all the sniping over the months... LMG came out ahead. Rossman is a manipulative libertarian prick, but he really nailed it with Linus exhibiting all the signs of being a gaslighting abuser. And... it works.
Because the general consensus, outside of their subreddits (although even in GN's...) was that Steve was in the wrong for responding to all the "some people are out to get us" style sniping and should just let the "drama" drop. And then LMG immediately pivoted to "Dude, just let it go. We improved our practices and are better for it. Maybe you should too. Oh, and if anyone mentions Madison's name we'll sue the fuck out of them". And it worked.
If only because LMG is an order of magnitude larger (17M versus 2.5M subscribers) and most people likely never even heard GN's arguments on why not lying about your testing to support corporate sponsors/interests is bad. They instead just see some guy "whining" (and probably get fed a lot of sock puppets from the companies GN has burned bridges with...) and move on.
LMG is nowhere near as untouchable as they used to be. But they are still probably the single biggest influencer in the PC/"tech" space. And.... just look at this thread for the people who, with a straight face, are talking about how Framework will be their saviour from some nebulous threat.
LMG is nowhere near as untouchable as they used to be. But they are still probably the single biggest influencer in the PC/“tech” space.
Do you really think so? Afaik, no one goes to the for hw reviews. They basically just make generic content that gets views. When it comes to actual technical reviews, they pretty much suck.
just look at this thread for the people who, with a straight face, are talking about how Framework will be their saviour from some nebulous threat.
I also don't get why they're praising Framework so much. Don't get me wrong, the product seems good but it's waaaay too expensive imo.
Lies. Linus is a round 3 investor. That's all. The industry first part is THE FUCKING SWAPPABLE 5070. Why are we being so dense for a company that is so far the best chance we've had since IBM came up with the ThinkPad.
Define "millionaire with his own PR company and a history of using them for his own personal needs is a significant investor" whichever way makes you happy.
Mobile GPUs have already been a thing. They are generally soldered for structural purposes but that isn't a requirement of the tech and some of the htpc form factor devices that used mobile GPUs have had them as swappable. Also, the old framework 16 already had non-soldered GPUs?
It is just that this isn't an avenue that most system integrators care about. Because there is already a MUCH better solution in the form of external GPUs which... still sort of exist. The idea that you focus on power efficiency and convenience for the laptop and plug it into a dock/big ass box when you want more GPU power. And even THAT is mostly a novelty since onboard GPUs/APU systems/whatever are actually REALLY good these days and more than capable of driving what people generally want/need on a laptop display.
But either way: This is "an industry first" in the same sense that it was an "industry first" when I figured out where the fricking map of my motherboard was while building it. A very big accomplishment to solve a problem that bothers a lot of people (fuck the shorthand maps. Gimme the real one) but also only a "first" if you narrow things down massively. You know... like with PR.
a company that is so far the best chance we’ve had since IBM came up with the ThinkPad.
You... seriously should read what you post. Like... wow.
Okay. What do you think framework is going to be your savior in?
Because honestly? Framework is cool as hell. But most of what they are "innovating" are not soldering things and making people not realize they are still just using a usb c port and a shit ton of dongles. The former tending to have very little utility for end users but be INCREDIBLY useful for assembly line workers.
And, generally speaking, the people who are swapping out their GPUs every other year... aren't the kind of people who will care if they buy a new laptop or reuse their old one except for all the parts they wanted to replace or upgrade. Let alone heat concerns (which is why I would LOVE a benchmark of the different paths towards the same SKU in a framework).
Nvidia is really cagey about what the let vendors do with their gpus, they had one ~~hot~~ swappable concept years ago and it never went anywhere because they basically didn't allow them to do anything with it. So this actually making it I to a product is crazy
Edit: not hot swappable, just swappable, please turn your PC off first lmao
Afaik, the gpu is swappable, not hot-swappable and modular nvidia gpus are not a new thing. Older gaming laptops used to have the gpu as a daughter board.
The more impressive thing is that they managed to get the Nvidia upgrade to be backwards compatible with existing Framework 16 models.
That's the push I need to really, truly believe they're committed to the goal of upgradablity. Too many "modular" products have come out where the "upgraded" modules were only available if you bought the newest version of the base product.
In the next year or so, I'll probably be buying a new laptop, and this has convinced me that Framework is probably the way to go.
The only downside I have seen is that GSYNC will not work. The newer display supports it, put anyone upgrading an older Framework 16 with the new NVIDIA card will have to buy the screen upgrade as well if they need GSYNC.
Yeah, but the old display supports VRR via VESA Adaptive-Sync. Nvidia supports that as well, but not sure if their mobile GPUs don't for built-in displays?
If it is supported, I don't see any advantage of having Gsync vs. standard VRR.
If not that's a shame. Pretty wasteful having to buy the same display with different firmware just to get adaptive sync working.
I've been rocking a Framework 16 for about a year now and would happily recommend it. It's a bit more upfront, but I love knowing that I can fix or replace just about anything on it (pretty affordably too). It's just so refreshing to not have to worry about dumb shit like an obscure power adapter or port forcing my laptop into an early retirement.
It's not the lightest laptop I've ever had, but realistically not all that much different from my last gaming laptop. Now that I'm not a full time student anymore I could probably get away with one of the smaller models, but the form factor is pretty nice.
i’ve had a framework 13 from a time before there was any other type of framework, and it’s a great laptop honestly. ive yet to do big upgrades, but just being able to repair it myself is awesome. one time i dented the chassis around where the power button was. no worries, just changed the input cover and bam 5 minutes later it’s like new.
my only complaint is that the battery life is atrocious. i heard it’s better (but still not great) on newer models tho
I have two Intel frameworks, and they both suck in regards to battery life
Buuut, I just have a big power bank in my backpack. Gives me at least 1 full charge when I'm on the go. And at home I just have a lighter laptop due to smaller battery
The only thing that pisses me off about framework, is their abysmal software and communication in that regard. It's basically impossible to get them to acknowledge or fix problems in their firmware
Out of curiosity, what cpu? I had an i5-1135g7 laptop that I motherboard swapped with a Ryzen 7 5825U motherboard. The battery life on the i5 was atrocious. I got 2 hours out of it doing note taking. Maybe 3 when new and I had the full battery capacity to work with. After the motherboard swap, I got basically double the battery life in the same conditions.
(HP pavilion 15-eg050wm and then I put a 15-eh2085cl motherboard in it)
both get maybe 3 hours if I'm lucky. Although they are a couple years old now. Fresh battery got me maybe 4 when lucky.
I have a 25k power bank, so I can extend the runtime quite a bit. The "at least once" above is quite conservative. it's probably closer to 2. and that includes using it while charging.
I heard the ryzens are a lot better regarding power, so it doesn't surprise me that the runtime basically doubles
I'd recommend disabling boost and setting cooling to passive.
On windows, if you set maximum processor usage to 99% in advanced power plan settings, it will disable boost. You can set the cooling policy as well. Also repasting is probably beneficial. The more efficient your cooling system is, the less fan usage it will need and you'll get better battery life as a result.
That's what I noticed on the i5 laptop, it would kick on the fans doing basically nothing and would kill battery. When the fans were off, the estimates were higher. Also maybe disabling the P cores in both machines might be beneficial.
Mainly due to quite shoddy firmware code that controls the charging. Which causes wild battery flipping behavior even when using a powerful charger. It's a long known issue, and FW is annoyingly quiet on the problem. It's the reason I'm annoyed by their software issue communication handling
With AC connected and battery charge at the set threshold, the battery status as reported by the kernel often flips between charging and discharging, sometimes even within one or two seconds.
I have a 7840U with a 55HWr battery. I can squeeze out 7 hours. If I'm power using then 5-6 is typical. With the 63WHr battery, you'll get about 15% more time with it.
I've got an HX 370 one and aside the battery, the only other complaint is the screen, max brightness isn't much and I miss my previous laptop's touch screen
Yeah it pushed me to finally put in an order, got to wait till December now as I'm in the third batch.
I wanted to wait till we had proof thst the graphics card would be updatable and a better one would be available as their AMD card is a bit too lightweight for me.
I would rather it had been a better AMD card, I have a 7900 xtx in my desktop, but i will take what I can get at this point, especially as I know I can upgrade later.
That's it, every other gaming laptop is finished. Even though I have the older CPU I can get the newest GPUs now. Nobody can claim that right now. No other company is doing this.
The other laptops arent finished yet. Framework is super expensive , even compared to other gaming laptops. I think its worth it, but thats not the opinion of a lot of casual people. And had i not gotten one via my job, i would not have gotten a framework 16 because of the price
Well, the idea is that you can upgrade components without replacing everything, so the initial cost is higher but the long term cost is lower.
That said, they took their time. The 1st generation is old now. The Radeon dGPU is probably weaker or on a similar level than the new Ryzen iGPU. There is no Radeon dGPU upgrade path other than "just use the old one". They have a better upgrade cadence with the 13 inch model.
Oh i know, and i agree. Im in talks with my boss to maybe upgrade the mainboard pre-maturely to the latest. Im using the lower costs as an argument haha
Surely there will be a desktop case for the old mainboard, as with the case for the 13" mainboard. Then you can to a little yoink and have yourself a good desktop PC.
The yoink is not needed. We have a policy to get a new laptop every 4 years. After that the laptop is all ours once formatted on site ( to make sure no company or customer details get leaked ). This is how my brother got my old dell xps, which he really needed for his education Edit: apparently they are working on it, same with a case for the gpu to convert it into a e-gpu
They have to stay within the TDP. Their only option is something newer and ~100W (like the 5070).
And I'm pretty sure the 7000 series is going out of production anyway...
Also (while no 395 is disappointing), it is a totally different socket/platform, and the 395 has a much, much higher effective TDP, so it may not even work in the Framework 16 as its currently engineered. For instance, the cooling or PSU just may not be able to physically handle it. Or perhaps there's no space on the PCB.
I got one of the latest Framework 13 a couple months ago for work, and while I'm happy about the prospects of future repairability and upgradability down the line, it's not a great laptop given its pricepoint. The build is subpar, with the screen flexing a ton, the keyboard and trackpad are lacklustre and pretty uncomfortable, but the worst is the screen, it's dim, with poor colour reproduction and 3:2 is frankly not for me. And fractional scaling is a mess with XWayland, while it was much better on my 2019 XPS 13.
I love what Framework are pushing for and actually achieving, but tradeoffs are very much at play. I'm hoping for an OLED screen replacement in the near future though.
I really don't see it happening considering you would likely just be replacing the whole chassis. I see an OLED in the future, just not a swappable one.
The Display Kit features a 13.5-inch, 2256 x 1504 3:2 display with high pixel density for crisp visuals and enough real estate to effectively multitask.
I've yet to use an OLED monitor that didn't make text look shitty and I've used $1000+ OLED displays with high ratings.
Don't get me wrong, OLED colors and blacks are gorgeous. I love OLED.
Even my Samsung Pro whatever latest laptop with an OLED display...the text just looks off. Which was disappointing because my Samsung phone text is fine.
LG C2/3/4, also gross looking text.
Alienware OLED $750+ monitor? Text was bad.
I love OLED but I've yet to find one that works for productivity.
Aren't phone screens AMOLED? I'm definitely not an expert, but I thought it was a variation of OLED, which would explain why text looks better.
That being said, I also have an OLED Steam Deck and I can read text on it just fine if the scaling is set correctly in the game or just browsing the web normally in desktop mode.
Almost all OLED displays use a different pixel layout than traditional LCD displays. And sub pixel font rendering is designed for the standard LCD layout. Depending on your OS you may be able to configure the font rendering to look better on most OLEDs. But some people are just more sensitive to this as a problem.
PWM dimming turns pixels on and off to make them darker. So for 50% of the brightness, it's off 50% of the time. Higher end panels flicker much faster which helps mitigate perceived flicker. I think 500hz and above is preferred.
For DC dimming is just using voltage to control the darkness with no flickering involved.
Yep, text is definitely not handled well on most OLED monitors (or TVs) because of their pixel substructure. It's usually been better on Linux for me and I essentially don't notice it anymore, but I also haven't used Windows in years so I can't compare.
I use an LG nanocell TV as an pc monitor and the fonts didn’t look good until I set the HDMI input type to PC. And ofcourse you need to play around with the font rendering tools like ClearType in Windows.
There is no Thinkpad as repairable as the framework and if they are (they're not) the price is out of reach for individuals since the p51 with LPCAMM2 targets enterprise costumers.
Your brain is wrong on this one. Follow your heart
I'd say it depends on your needs and budget Framework has a higher build Quality and a bit loser prices but if this isn't a Problem for you, go for it. Great repairability and replacebility is awesome!
My experience with Framework is exactly one unit, but I would disagree with this. The Thinkpads I've used all felt more plastic-y and less sturdy than my Framework. The keyboard did feel cheaper until I wore the powdery texture off of the keycaps (took about a week), at which point it felt amazing.
My experience is a Framework 16 I dont personally own, however I do have a T440p and build quality simply seems superior. I vastly prefer a durable and hard plastic above a thin mental sheet that bends.
After getting a used thinkpad and being really surprised by the build quality and keyboard that's the route I've decided to stick with over buying new laptops.
I’d prefer an AMD 9000 series because I refuse to support Nvidia, but the upgradability is still an amazing achievement. I’m glad to see Framework delivering.
Out of curiosity, why do you refuse to support Nvidia? AMD isn't some saint, they're a shitty corporation just like Nvidia. They got lucky when Jim Keller saved their asses with the Ryzen architecture in the mid-2010s. They haven't really innovated a god damn thing since then and it shows.
Edit: I get it, I get it, Nvidia is a much shittier company and I agree. I was pretty drunk last night before bed, please pardon the shots fired
Besides what was mentioned below, it's not about making competitive products but about Nvidia being an absolute asshole since the 2000s and they got even worse ever since the crypto and AI craze started. AMD and Nvidia are both corporations but they are not even playing the same game when it comes to being anti-competitive.
That list is far from exhaustive. There's so much more about Nvidia that you should remember vividly if you were a PC gamer in the 2000s and 2010s with an AMD GPU, like:
When they pushed developers to use an unecessary amount of tesselation because they knew tesselation performed worse on AMD
When they pushed their Gameworks framework which heavily gimped AMD GPUs
When they pushed their PhysX framework which automatically offloaded to CPU on AMD GPUs
When they disabled their GPUs in their driver when they detected an AMD GPU is also present in the system
When they were cheating in benchmarks by adding optimizations specific to those benchmarks
When they shipped an incomplete Vulkan implementation but claimed they are compliant
Nvidia has been gimping gaming performance and visuals since forever for both AMD GPUs and even their own customers and we haven't even gotten to DLSS and raytracing yet.
I refuse to buy anything Nvidia until they stop abusing their market position at every chance they get.
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Most people don't need them. The gaming and workstation laptop market is smaller than ever. The integrated graphics has been "good enough" for a while now.
High end gaming laptops needed desktop GPUs anyway, because at least for nVidia, once you get past the **60 range, the mobile version starts getting very small jumps in performance compared to the desktop.
At some point it's cheaper to get a gaming desktop and a cheap laptop lol
Their website still lists RX 7000M & S series, but I don't know of a single *other *laptop brand that currently offers them. There is certainly is no hint of a 9000 series mobile GPU, which is a shame. I probably won't buy another laptop until AMD is back in the mobile GPU game. Not that they're perfect, but they are significantly less evil than NVidia.
They've had AMD for a few years now. No Intel one, but they do sell empty GPU module shells, so maybe someone could cut down a desktop Intel card to fit in one?
Nowhere in the press release they claim to be an industry first on swappable mobile GPU, and the title imply that the "industry first" is to have a swappable RTX5070M, which may be correct, especially depending on your definition of "swappable".
Apparently there's some open source designs for a sim card module already. Idk if Framework is planning on making their own though. github.com/Zokhoi/framework-ce…
So I'm going to be skeptical here. I had an older 9xx MSI laptop that was touted as replaceable and "upgradable" GPU for the next generation at the time.
That ended up as a big ol' whoops, because replacement screwed with thermals and found that you couldn't actually upgrade because of all kinds of reasons and resulted in a class action suit.
Framework has been pretty consistent on upgradability. You can even put the newest MOBOs/CPUs in the oldest laptops since they kept the formfactor identical. They sell such mobos on their website.
GPUs a bit of a different monster since there no such thing as a standard socket, you're bound by the manufacturer spec for pin in/out.
And that was the case with MSI laptop and Nvidia partnership when Nvidia went full Darth Vader and changed the terms of the deal.
I mean more power to them if they can actually deliver actual modules that can be upgraded and if I can actually see a generation or two of this actually working, I'll be on board but once bitten, can't fool me again for the time being.
The standard is PCI-e, and it is interchangeable. This is the second dedicated video card you can get in a Framework laptop, and they can be swapped out with each other. The other video card is even an AMD Radeon.
Again, that's great if they can continue to update and release their GPU module to work with additional and future gpus. I'll believe it when I see it be updated with the next generation of gpus because just like it said on their press release, others have tried it and failed.
This is the next generation GPU. The Radeon is a last generation model that you have been able to buy for awhile now. What you are asking for currently exists and is something you can buy on their website right now and upgrade your older laptop:
Upgrade your laptop's graphics for exceptional gaming and creative performance. Equipped with NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070 at up to 100W TGP, 8GB of GDDR7 memory, and a USB-C port with DisplayPort Alt Mode and charging support.
Ah, I see. Well cool, that's actually pretty neat then, reasonably, at least in terms of today's ridiculous GPU market, price. Maybe they will be the ones to break the curse then and I can have a laptop that can actually treat like a desktop.
OK I’m a bit confused. I have a Framework 16” that I bought earlier this year, without the GPU extension bay. I don’t care that much about the expansion bay as without it, the laptop is already huge. I have an eGPU to play on when I need it.
What upgrade options does this announcement offer to me?
I’m dissatisfied with: - the webcam - screen colors / brightness - key stability on the keyboard (the keys are a bit wobbly) - speaker sound quality (I’m not expecting the best, but something better than what it shipped with)
They are announcing a new webcam, will it be backwards compatible ?
Otherwise I’m really happy with it, I absolutely love the modular I/O, being able to swap which side the audio jack is is amazing. happy to support this endeavor of repairability
So I went back to the blog post. They are shipping the Framework 13" webcam in this updated 16" version. The part was already available for me to upgrade!
We’re now using the 2nd Gen Webcam that we first introduced last year on Framework Laptop 13.
The module comes pre-installed on Framework Laptop 13 (Intel Core Ultra Series 1) and the new Ryzen 7040 Series configurations with the 2.8k display. It’s also compatible with all of our existing Framework Laptop 13 and Framework Laptop 16 models [...]
We’re excited to announce the new Framework Laptop 16, now with AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series processors and a graphics upgrade to NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070 Laptop GPU!
for laptops, either get last or even further generation 8 core cpu and 5070/4070, or be happy with AI 300 series igpu. Buy more memory instead. You might one day want local AI/LLMs.
The "protection of children" has been the cited reason for a lot of controversial laws and measures recently. A common response is that parents should use parental controls to manage that on their own instead of relying on the government to do it to everyone. I found this article interesting since it touched on how the existing tools aren't that good, and addressing that problem might be a better thing to focus on
Authors:
Sara M. Grimes | Wolfe Chair in Scientific and Technological Literacy and Professor, McGill University
Riley McNair | PhD Student in Information Studies, University of Toronto
The "protection of children" has been the cited reason for a lot of controversial laws and measures recently. A common response is that parents should use parental controls to manage that on their own instead of relying on the government to do it to everyone. I found this article interesting since it touched on how the existing tools aren't that good, and addressing that problem might be a better thing to focus on
Authors:
Sara M. Grimes | Wolfe Chair in Scientific and Technological Literacy and Professor, McGill University
Riley McNair | PhD Student in Information Studies, University of Toronto
A perfect example I get shot down on here a lot is to make browser-level protections. It seems so obvious to me that the browser, an app that is local to the PC, could verify your age (via ID, credit card, something) for no one specific website. That then would authorize you to access mature areas of the internet, and there could be a checkable library within the browser that websites could use to validate this.
Us being linux nerds here know that there would be ways to circumvent this, but it would be a hell of a great jumping off point vs the current which is "give your ID to each website they totally won't hand it over to the gov". The fact that none of those options were seriously considered and they went right for censorship shows exactly what their true motivations are.
force binary choices that don’t align with household rules or with children’s maturity levels.
This has been my main experience with "parental controls". As soon as they are turned on, I lose any ability to manage the experiences available to my children. So, in areas where I see them as mature enough to handle something, the only way I can allow them access to that experience is to completely bypass the controls. In many ecosystems, if I judge that one of my children could handle a game and the online risks associated with it, I can't simply allow that game. Instead, I need to maintain a full adult account for them to use. You also run into a lot of situations where the reason a game is banned from children is unclear or done in an obvious "better safe than sorry" knee-jerk reaction. Ultimately, parental controls end up being far more frustrating than empowering. I'd rather just have something that just says, "this game/movie/etc your kid is asking for is restricted based on reasons X, Y and Z. Do you want to allow it?" Log my response and go with it. Like damned near any choice in software settings, quit trying to out-think me on what I want, give me a choice and respect that choice.
How about not letting children near screens? Yeah, let's be looked at as the Amish kid that got transfered, but this genuinely feels like the right choice. Maybe allow something like Wikipedia/encyclopedia in someway.
The "protection of children" has been the cited reason for a lot of controversial laws and measures recently. A common response is that parents should use parental controls to manage that on their own instead of relying on the government to do it to everyone. I found this article interesting since it touched on how the existing tools aren't that good, and addressing that problem might be a better thing to focus on
Authors:
Sara M. Grimes | Wolfe Chair in Scientific and Technological Literacy and Professor, McGill University
Riley McNair | PhD Student in Information Studies, University of Toronto
We’re excited to announce the new Framework Laptop 16, now with AMD Ryzen™ AI 300 Series processors and a graphics upgrade to NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070 Laptop GPU!
What's industry first about it, exactly? The specific brands don't come to mind but there have been some niche laptop manufacturers with GPU slots for at least a decade.
Just a heavy mash with some chocolate malt and crystal, brittish yeast BRT101 (RIP Alzymologist Oy, but I still have the Library). Takes time to mature, couple weeks after bottling it still asks for more bottle aging (hopefully few years) but already nice and mellow. Dangerously drinkable, for its ABV.
It's naturally carbonated with teaspoon of sugar (not really yet), OG 1100 FG 1036 (at bottling). Thus about 9%. This beer survived heat wave (we should have bottled it sooner but it was so hard to do anything). It tastes super malty, balanced with powerful bitterness. Most of hop smell comes from lightish dry hopping. Like creamy bread.
Very pretty by the eyes, no doubt the taste buds would agree! With the chocolate and crystal this appears very similar to what I'll probably be making next with your Lager Malty. Might stray from the plan though, as the lemon balm is still alive so I could also re-run the previous recipe with proper boutique yeast 😀
May I ask how much malt per volume? Still haven't got means to take the gravity on my stuff so I'm curious.
Utilization could be better, but that's zen approach we are trying - literally only large kitchen kettles and colander, I'll make a post about this idea later. It works, but not so good on heavy stuff. But then fancy equipment doesn't work with this well either (actually often worse). Heavy mashes are not so simple.
10 kg into 15 L, that's a malt-head's dream brew 😀
I'm at the initial dreaming state of building a 'kuurna', the preferred sahti mashing process. That would be the way to optimise utilisation. I already have a stainless steel piece that would probably work as a base. No use building it though, no room in the house to set up the process or really even store it...
Simple climate prediction models can outperform deep-learning approaches when predicting future temperature changes, but deep learning has potential for estimating more complex variables like rainfall, according to an MIT study.
When tools like DALL·E and Stable Diffusion began creating images from text, researchers asked: Could the same approach generate clinically accurate chest X-rays?
#ESETResearch has discovered the first known AI-powered ransomware, which we named #PromptLock. The PromptLock malware uses the gpt-oss:20b model from OpenAI locally via the Ollama API to generate malicious Lua scripts on the fly, which it then executes. PromptLock leverages Lua scripts generated from hard-coded prompts to enumerate the local filesystem, inspect target files, exfiltrate selected data, and perform encryption. These Lua scripts are cross-platform compatible, functioning on #Windows, #Linux, and #macOS. Based on the detected user files, the malware may exfiltrate data, encrypt it, or potentially destroy it. Although the destruction functionality appears to be not yet implemented. #Bitcoin address used in the prompt appears to belong to Bitcoin creator en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_… For its file encryption mechanism, the PromptLock ransomware utilizes the SPECK 128-bit encryption algorithm. Although multiple indicators suggest the sample is a proof-of-concept (PoC) or work-in-progress rather than fully operational malware deployed in the wild, we believe it is our responsibility to inform the cybersecurity community about such developments. The PromptLock ransomware is written in #Golang, and we have identified both Windows and Linux variants uploaded to VirusTotal. IoCs: 🚨 Filecoder.PromptLock.A 📄 24BF7B72F54AA5B93C6681B4F69E579A47D7C102 AD223FE2BB4563446AEE5227357BBFDC8ADA3797 BB8FB75285BCD151132A3287F2786D4D91DA58B8 F3F4C40C344695388E10CBF29DDB18EF3B61F7EF 639DBC9B365096D6347142FCAE64725BD9F73270 161CDCDB46FB8A348AEC609A86FF5823752065D2
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Tuesday that customs duty revenues from President Donald Trump's tariffs may top $500 billion a year, with a substantial jump from July to August and likely a bigger jump in September.
Bessent told a White House Cabinet meeting that his prior estimate of a $300 billion annual tariff collection rate was too low.
"We had a substantial jump from July to August, and I think we're going to see a bigger jump from August to September," Bessent said. "So I think we could be on our way well over half a trillion, maybe towards a trillion-dollar number. This administration, your administration, has made a meaningful dent in the budget deficit."
Tariff revenue would offset the deficit increases triggered by the Republicans' tax-cut and spending bill passed this year. CBO estimated this bill would widen the deficit by $3.4 trillion over the next decade.
Trump's tariffs drove July U.S. customs duty collections up by nearly $21 billion from the $7 billion collected in July 2024 and about even with the $20 billion increase registered in June. Significant increases in tariff rates for nearly all trading partners kicked in on August 7.
The U.S. Treasury reported on Monday that as of August 22, the government had collected $29.6 billion in combined customs and excise taxes so far during August, matching its total for the whole month of July. As of July 22, that combined figure stood at $7.8 billion, but customs duty collections can vary from day to day.
Bessent also noted that the Congressional Budget Office's upwardly revised estimate last week of federal revenue from Trump's tariffs, forecasting that it could reduce federal deficits by $4 trillion over 10 years. "And I would expect that that number could go up from here," Bessent added.
The latest CBO estimate marks an increase from June when it forecast that revenue from new tariffs would reduce deficits by $3 trillion over 10 years.
Louisiana has been losing a football field worth of land every half hour for the past several decades. Hurricanes makes this worse by throwing monstrous floating mats of vegetation inland thereby removing erosion protection.
We were on a swamp tour outside of New Orleans and the guide was showing us vast tracts of open water that had been vegetation before Katrina.
While the drones are armed, they use non-lethal or less-lethal weaponry, allowing them to distract, disorient, confront, degrade, and incapacitate shooters, according to the company. They carry pepper rounds and a glass breaker for quickly entering classrooms.
Despite not carrying lethal firepower, having 30 to 90 of these drones in schools has raised concerns. Beyond any potential technical issues, there's always the possibility they could make a shooting situation even worse or more complicated. There are question marks over the kind of training the operators receive, too. Then there's the storage safety aspect, as well as the potential of a drone colliding with a student or law enforcement as it zooms through corridors at 50mph.
We'll find out how successful the system is soon enough. Campus Guardian Angel aims to install the drones in the schools permanently in September and October, ahead of the fully operational live service starting in January.
I left the US and took my kids. We no longer have to deal with active shooter drills and school shootings are a national tragedy here, with about one per decade.
Have your cyberpunk drones and children terror drills, but make sure you can still have your guns!
10 bucks says a student is gonna slam a door too hard or light up in school or whatever, and one of these Child Skull Destroyers is gonna absolutely merc them.
Tim Walz, JB Pritzker, and Wes Moore are coming out swinging!
All this bad news of the country going to hell is so depressing and relentless. Let’s have a nice time: Governors giving Trump the what-for! And against the advice of consultants from their own party, even.
A leaked memo from David Shor’s Blue Rose Research shows research from a web panel testing 21 Democratic messages, and short version, what the panel “found” most effective to talk about was tariffs and Medicaid. Messages about the authoritarian takeover of Washington DC did not — they claimed — test well.
Should Democrats really take that advice? Because there’s what people say they want, and then there’s what they actually vote for. After all, in 2024 voters said that they cared about The Economy and the prices of The Groceries, and then they elected a guy who bankrupted six businesses, including two casinos, and was found liable for millions in fraud. That’s the guy you want to trust when The Groceries are the most important thing in the world to you?
And there’s also what’s actually important, even if it is painful to think about, which is losing our democracy, the rule of law, our human rights, the economy, our free speech, and everything else that makes America great. Talking points about Medicaid and the tariffs, while indeed important, seems beyond tone deaf at a time like this. But not everybody is taking the advice, thank goodness, so let’s enjoy some of the politicians who refuse!
First up, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz.
The Democrats held their three-day Democratic National Committee Summer Meeting in Minneapolis, and it was not without sturm und drang. The AP reports that DNC chair Ken Martin may be barely holding on: “[A]t least a couple of DNC members privately considered bringing a vote of no confidence against Martin this week in part because of the committee’s underwhelming fundraising.”
We know what might help with fundraising, and it is not pissing off your base and donors by being fucking weenuses. You know who wants Democrats to fight? Donors whose wallets are currently sewn the fuck shut.
The DNC had $14 million in the bank at the end of July, compared with the Republican National Committee’s $84 million. That’s pretty bad! Maybe they should consider changing direction!
But anyway, let’s go to the highlights of this ballbuster of a speech from MN Gov. and former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz:
“[T]he privilege of my lifetime was to stand beside someone we know was the most qualified and would have been a fantastic president in a President Harris. And look, we wouldn't wake up every day to a bunch of bullshit on TV and a bunch of nonsense. We would wake up to an adult with compassion and dignity and vision and leadership doing the work. Not a manchild crying about whatever's wrong with him. May his fat ankles find something today.”
“We're proud to be a diverse party. We are proud of the diversity of this country. We're not shying away from diversity as a strength and equity as a goal and inclusion being the air we breathe. That's what we should be doing. But what we have to be clear about is don't take the bait. It boggles my damn mind that in the midst of a military takeover our cities and the attempt to go into others, the flaunting of the rule of law, the cruelness and the unconstitutional nature of the way they're attacking our neighbors that the press finds the need to talk about, oh, there's a division in the Democratic Party. There's a division in my damn house and we're still married and things are good. That's life.”
Sounds like Tesla Full Self Driving. Yes the marketeers are making more concrete bogus promises because buyers have otherwise gotten skeptical. It's still best imho to treat the announcements as meaningless and wait to see reactors actually producing continuous power.
Molten thorium fission on the other hand does seem potentially useful on a large scale in a foreseeable timeframe.
For fusion? No idea. For thorium / molten salt (I mistakenly wrote molten thorium)? China has an experimental reactor operating right now, and they plan to build a lot of them:
Chinese scientists have refuelled an experimental thorium-fueled molten salt reactor continuously without shutting it down. The Chinese prototype reached full…
The free-market will never attempt to solve energy shortages using proven technology like Nuclear Reactors because they can make more money with fossil fuels. why would they care about an unproven tech that is "50 years" and a trillion dollars away?
I read about this earlier on Ars Technica. I was expecting a paywalled link. Was not expecting to find a mention of "No Longer Human." Ars didn't mention that. Or the chat logs. It was a long article but didn't go into the same depth.
So, I've read "No Longer Human." A more recent translation is called "A Shameful Life" and that's a bit more apt, I think, but doesn't have the same ring. It's about a guy who feels less and less like a person, like what he does and feels doesn't matter. It's a wild book, about a double suicide, and the author later killed himself much the same way. There have been several adaptations — none of them very good. None of them quite captured the book. I wonder if it's just unfilmable. Anyway, it's a shame that it's being referenced here, because it's good literature worth considering, and I hate to see it maligned in much the same way as the Doom game was following the Columbine massacre. Relevant or not (guns in that case, suicide in this case), it's a shame art gets associated with tragedy simply by association.
Perhaps the same could be said of AI technology, and it has been. But certainly AI needs better safeguards. According to Ars, when the guy started asking about suicide, ChatGPT said it could not help him — unless he specified he was talking about fictional characters. So he did that (Ars constantly refers to it as a "jailbreak") for a while, and then I guess (and they guess as well) that ChatGPT just assumed that context and stopped requiring him to specify that.
Even blenders have safeguards though, if the pitcher isn't installed most won't work. I don't think it's insane to require some sort of safety with LLMs.
I think the metaphor is finetuning a LLM for ‘safety’ is like trying to engineer the blades to be “finger safe”, when the better approach would be to guard against fingers getting inside an active blender.
Finetuning LLMs to be safe is just not going to work, but building stricter usage structures around them will. Like tools.
This kinda goes against Altman's assertion that they’re magic crystal balls (in progress), which would pop his bubble he’s holding up. But in the weeds of LLM land, you see a lot more people calling for less censoring, and more sensible and narrow usage.
A blender with glass blades that frequently shatter when at full speed or when cutting hard food. It also has no lid and is marketed as a bath toy.
It's up to the user to think for themselves and not use it as a bath toy. And to use safety goggles. And check the food for glass shards before each bite.
What a surprise, the empathy-free text generator makes things worse when people expect it to output empathy. My condolences to the kid's family and I hope he's in a better place, but this sort of thing is going to happen more and more until people realize that AI chatbots only seem human-like because the human brain is so good at empathy that it projects emotions and agency onto anything, even a literal cowpile with googly eyes on top.
AI isn't "good enough to fool us" . We're just stupid enough to be fooled even by something as moronic as AI. What we emphasize in such a statement makes all the difference in how we handle this tech.
Yeah, article said he had talked for months about hanging himself. Any human friend would have done their best to save him. Being proactive about making him feel better, working through his problems with him, and/or notifying his parents or a school teacher.
Meanwhile the chat bot just encouraged him to seek help himself. Which isn't bad, but when someone is suicidal, particularly when they keep bringing it up, is clearly not enough.
I feel really bad for anyone treating chatbots as friends. They are basically guaranteed to get screwed over by the bot. And furthermore, they aren't learning how to connect with humans, humans who might become a lifelong friend, or teach one the skills to befriend a future lifelong friend.
A 2020 lawsuit filed by publishers at the High Court in Delhi targeted the infamous shadow library, Sci-Hub. The aim was to have the site blocked by ISPs, which triggered a strong response from academics, scientists, teachers and students, who argued that free access to knowledge is vital in India. Close to five years later, the Court has sided with the publishers. Sci-Hub's founder informed them via email that the results of blocking may be disappointing.
Democratic National Committee members on Tuesday clashed over how to address Israel's actions in the war in Gaza, prompting the party chair to withdraw a resolution on the matter and move to instead address concerns brought by a younger faction agita…
Few industries have been hit by AI as hard as translation. Rates are plummeting. Work is drying up. Translators are considering abandoning the field, or bankruptcy. These are their stories.
I'm a simultaneous interpreter, and it's a bloodbath out there. Partially because anyone who needs a translator or an interpreter by default is unable to verify the accuracy of the translation/interpretation - they can only tell if it's smooth, believable, and such. And, AIs are great at being believable even when they make shit up...
I tested a few local models to see how complete and recent their training data is. I want to use it to see if company A at xyz address is the same as Company B at xyz.1 address. I asked them for recent events and found a lot of gaps. So I asked for the roster of the 1992 dream team. Very mixed results. Open AIs model got 11/12 players correct but absolutely insisted that Christian Laettner was not the 12th player. I went back and forth with it to see if I could get it to accept my knowledge as is. It wouldn’t. I’m terrified about what happens when these AI bots have the ability to update Wikipedia in order to make the facts match their incomplete training data.
You don't have to be very good at a language to know when a translation is horrible. I'm not very good at spanish and I can do better than machine translations.
My company thankfully still employs simultaneous interpreters for meetings and has one translator on staff. I think, at least in part, because of how bad translation tools can be from EN <> JA.
I believe this will pass. Sooner or later, the AI companies will have to stop losing money and adjust their pricing. And then it'll turn out that using AI for everything gets you worse results than humans, at the same cost. And that will be that. I hope I can hang on until then.
I think the AI bubble is really close to poping. If they can't make a profit on it in the next 2 years (maybe sooner with how badly the economy is about to start doing) VC money will dry up and then they will have to up prices dramatically.
There's a lot of factors I could get into but it seems like they are going to have to start pricing AI use at the very least cost soon.
What most people managing translations don't get is that they are essentially using the tools that translators use, but skipping the value adding step.
I've been doing translation as a side gig for years. Lately I've been doing some translations for an NGO that deals with addiction management, of which I'm part.
The materials have a lot of nuances, and need the translator to understand them, to properly convey the concepts.
The usual process for translation is to feed the original to a machine language translation software, and then work with both versions side by side, in a translation management software, tools that make editing and proofing faster and easier by a human, to achieve the best result.
Last time, someone in the organization, mono lingual, decided to do a handbook translation with ChatGPT, or something like that. They then gave the result to a colleague and me.
The resulting translation was exactly what we expected.
A problem was that some bilingual people were shown the results, and reported that the results were amazing, without realizing that they were commenting on the wow factor, not on the accuracy of the result, especially because they had not done a critical side by side comparison.
My colleague and I did the editing work, were paid less, but the end result was the usual translation quality.
The commissioning person at the org boasted that AI translation was great, obviating our work, to get their brownie points.
TLDR: translation has used machine translation as a first step for a long time, with results edited and polished by humans. Ignorant decision makers are skipping that crucial step, getting sub-par results, oblivious to the fact.
I've always thought a BASIC international language would be great. I mean, there's already international sign language, and Arabic numerals are pretty universal. Doesn't need to be poetic, or intense. Just "Me want this, I need this" type of structure. Maybe a modified version of Latin, with all gender neutral variants.
I know someone who was a translator between two (less widely spoken) languages, and some specifics I recall from our conversations about work: - Sometimes the translations use many technical terms, and getting those wrong (trusting LLMs) is not an option. (This was for some patents IIRC) - Some terms simply do not exist in another language, and it could be up to the translator to invent a term to define and carry the information across. (This was for some government digital service, and the term was similar to "digital queue") - Tone and nuances are very difficult to translate. Phrasing can have implications and connotations. (Simplest example: "i am afraid" does not imply fear, it's an established politeness phrase) Neutral in one language could be viewed as hostile in another, too. (And with politicians being petty, could have consequences)
None of those would be addressed with LLMs. Small training set for language (and language being similar to a few others) is an issue. Anything technical or non-existing would be prone to hallucinations. And tone is difficult enough to convey through text to begin with, let alone with LLM translation.
I wonder what % of all translations are things like patents, legal paper and movies and what are simple localizations. Even in the more complex cases you can pass the entire text through AI first and then just proof read it and correct the errors.
LLM gets 95% of the translation done, but the 5% is likely every important and it takes longer to confirm it's correct than to do it from scratch anyway
How good is LLM training data for a language spoken by less than 10 million people? Keep in mind that most of those people are probably multilingual (i.e. categorizing which language is which by person is harder), and language itself is similar to its neighbors. And then, again, terms.
I've had to translate a whole bunch of letters from English to Finnish for my grandparents, and doing it using a translator saves a ton of time as I don't have to actually produce the text, I can just read both sides afterwards and as long as every sentence matches in meaning, I can move to the next one.
But I wouldn't trust it to actually be correct for the entire thing, because it never is, and if someone who doesn't understand one of the languages would do it they would never spot the mistakes either.
We've been working on improving On-Screen Keyboard support in computers, mobile devices and TVs as part of the We Care About Your Input - KDE Goals initiative.
Check out what has been done so far in Plasma Virtual Keyboard and tell us what you'd like to see next. 💻️📱📺️
We’re almost a year into the We Care About Your Input KDE Goal, and we’ve made great progress across various input fronts like improving support for graphics tablets and gesture configuration.
Yeah, Duolingo has been resting a bit too much on its past accomplishments and still high popularity lately. This feature is basically exactly what I would have expected them to offer me by now in return for the money I pay them each month. Unfortunately Google is not an alternative for me, but I already have switched some of my learning to LLM chats elsewhere. I am curious if Duolingo will be able to keep up again with the development in the long run...
IDK exactly what Duolingo is, but it sounds like this new product gives you practice with spoken conversations? I'm unexcited by the idea of doing that with a computer but still, spoken language learning is completely different from written language.
The best thing for spoken language acquisition from my perspective has simply been listening a lot to live human speakers of the language, in person. That means either take a class with a human instructor, or travel to wherever they use that language. It's ok to start with very limited ability. Bring a dictionary things will sink in over time.
Well, an AI is incredibly patient and you can toy around with the language freely without perhaps feeling embarrassed. That alone lowers the entry bar (especially for slightly awkward persons like myself...) considerably. On top of that AI is dirt cheap compared to a personal tutor or traveling around the world. So it would open effective language learning to a much broader audience than before, which undoubtedly is a good thing!
The Democratic National Committee on Tuesday voted down a resolution calling for a suspension of military aid to Israel in the midst of a famine in Gaza that is a direct result of Israel's near-total blockade on humanitarian aid.
Margaret DeReus, the executive director of IMEU Policy Project, was scathing in her denunciation of the DNC for voting down the resolution and directly called out the influence of pro-Israel groups that have spent millions to defeat progressives like former Rep. Cori Bush (D-Mo.), one of the first Democratic lawmakers to demand a ceasefire after Israel began its assault on Gaza in 2023.
Organizer Asra Nizami noted that "members acknowledged getting hundreds of calls and emails" about supporting the resolution, but voted it down nonetheless.
"This party keeps digging its own grave. And it's owned by AIPAC," said Nizami, referring to the pro-Israel American Israel Public Affairs Committee, which donated more than $24 million to Democratic candidates in 2024.
Listen, we can't just both sides this. You're either with the Democrats or you're having sex with Vladimir Putin. Do you want to be called a traitor by a guy on the Internet? Then quit repeating this far left America hating propaganda and VOTE
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in reply to etchinghillside • • •the title is sensationaliat, as the gpu part has been done before (mxm gpus)
the only industry first off the top of my head is the 240w usb c epr charger for a laptop
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in reply to Dudewitbow • • •Framework is partially owned by Linus Media Group.
They got their PR game on lock.
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in reply to bassomitron • • •NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to potustheplant • • •And when GN responded to all the sniping over the months... LMG came out ahead. Rossman is a manipulative libertarian prick, but he really nailed it with Linus exhibiting all the signs of being a gaslighting abuser. And... it works.
Because the general consensus, outside of their subreddits (although even in GN's...) was that Steve was in the wrong for responding to all the "some people are out to get us" style sniping and should just let the "drama" drop. And then LMG immediately pivoted to "Dude, just let it go. We improved our practices and are better for it. Maybe you should too. Oh, and if anyone mentions Madison's name we'll sue the fuck out of them". And it worked.
If only because LMG is an order of magnitude larger (17M versus 2.5M subscribers) and most people likely never even heard GN's arguments on why not lying about your testing to support corporate sponsors/interests is bad. They instead just see some guy "whining" (and probably get fed a lot of sock puppets from the companies GN has burned bridges with...) and move on.
LMG is nowhere near as untouchable as they used to be. But they are still probably the single biggest influencer in the PC/"tech" space. And.... just look at this thread for the people who, with a straight face, are talking about how Framework will be their saviour from some nebulous threat.
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in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •Do you really think so? Afaik, no one goes to the for hw reviews. They basically just make generic content that gets views. When it comes to actual technical reviews, they pretty much suck.
I also don't get why they're praising Framework so much. Don't get me wrong, the product seems good but it's waaaay too expensive imo.
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in reply to 3laws • • •Define "millionaire with his own PR company and a history of using them for his own personal needs is a significant investor" whichever way makes you happy.
Mobile GPUs have already been a thing. They are generally soldered for structural purposes but that isn't a requirement of the tech and some of the htpc form factor devices that used mobile GPUs have had them as swappable. Also, the old framework 16 already had non-soldered GPUs?
It is just that this isn't an avenue that most system integrators care about. Because there is already a MUCH better solution in the form of external GPUs which... still sort of exist. The idea that you focus on power efficiency and convenience for the laptop and plug it into a dock/big ass box when you want more GPU power. And even THAT is mostly a novelty since onboard GPUs/APU systems/whatever are actually REALLY good these days and more than capable of driving what people generally want/need on a laptop display.
But either way: This is "an industry first" in the same sense that it was an "industry first" when I figured out where the fricking map of my motherboard was while building it. A very big accomplishment to solve a problem that bothers a lot of people (fuck the shorthand maps. Gimme the real one) but also only a "first" if you narrow things down massively. You know... like with PR.
Because honestly? Framework is cool as hell. But most of what they are "innovating" are not soldering things and making people not realize they are still just using a usb c port and a shit ton of dongles. The former tending to have very little utility for end users but be INCREDIBLY useful for assembly line workers.
And, generally speaking, the people who are swapping out their GPUs every other year... aren't the kind of people who will care if they buy a new laptop or reuse their old one except for all the parts they wanted to replace or upgrade. Let alone heat concerns (which is why I would LOVE a benchmark of the different paths towards the same SKU in a framework).
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in reply to notthebees • • •hence why Mention the titles a bit sensationalist.
its using a gpu company that rarely does it, for the first time in awhile in a very specific way, as that's not the title of the thread that OP links.
the idea of a laptop dgpu isnt new
the idea of a removable laptop dgpu(mxm)
the idea of a removable nvidia laptop dgpu isnt new(same as above, also asus rog flow attachable gpus)
the idea of a slottable gpu isnt new (frameworks 7700s came before it)
its the combination of the above which is pigeonholing the definition hard enough that it really doesnt have any real merit.
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in reply to etchinghillside • • •Nvidia is really cagey about what the let vendors do with their gpus, they had one ~~hot~~ swappable concept years ago and it never went anywhere because they basically didn't allow them to do anything with it. So this actually making it I to a product is crazy
Edit: not hot swappable, just swappable, please turn your PC off first lmao
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in reply to Pro • • •The more impressive thing is that they managed to get the Nvidia upgrade to be backwards compatible with existing Framework 16 models.
That's the push I need to really, truly believe they're committed to the goal of upgradablity. Too many "modular" products have come out where the "upgraded" modules were only available if you bought the newest version of the base product.
In the next year or so, I'll probably be buying a new laptop, and this has convinced me that Framework is probably the way to go.
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in reply to halcyoncmdr • • •Yeah, but the old display supports VRR via VESA Adaptive-Sync. Nvidia supports that as well, but not sure if their mobile GPUs don't for built-in displays?
If it is supported, I don't see any advantage of having Gsync vs. standard VRR.
If not that's a shame. Pretty wasteful having to buy the same display with different firmware just to get adaptive sync working.
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in reply to chiliedogg • • •I've been rocking a Framework 16 for about a year now and would happily recommend it. It's a bit more upfront, but I love knowing that I can fix or replace just about anything on it (pretty affordably too). It's just so refreshing to not have to worry about dumb shit like an obscure power adapter or port forcing my laptop into an early retirement.
It's not the lightest laptop I've ever had, but realistically not all that much different from my last gaming laptop. Now that I'm not a full time student anymore I could probably get away with one of the smaller models, but the form factor is pretty nice.
Overall, no major complaints!
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in reply to chiliedogg • • •i’ve had a framework 13 from a time before there was any other type of framework, and it’s a great laptop honestly. ive yet to do big upgrades, but just being able to repair it myself is awesome. one time i dented the chassis around where the power button was. no worries, just changed the input cover and bam 5 minutes later it’s like new.
my only complaint is that the battery life is atrocious. i heard it’s better (but still not great) on newer models tho
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in reply to Chloé 🥕 • • •I have two Intel frameworks, and they both suck in regards to battery life
Buuut, I just have a big power bank in my backpack. Gives me at least 1 full charge when I'm on the go. And at home I just have a lighter laptop due to smaller battery
The only thing that pisses me off about framework, is their abysmal software and communication in that regard. It's basically impossible to get them to acknowledge or fix problems in their firmware
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in reply to SkaveRat • • •Out of curiosity, what cpu? I had an i5-1135g7 laptop that I motherboard swapped with a Ryzen 7 5825U motherboard. The battery life on the i5 was atrocious. I got 2 hours out of it doing note taking. Maybe 3 when new and I had the full battery capacity to work with. After the motherboard swap, I got basically double the battery life in the same conditions.
(HP pavilion 15-eg050wm and then I put a 15-eh2085cl motherboard in it)
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in reply to notthebees • • •i5-1340P and i7-1260P
Both FW13
both get maybe 3 hours if I'm lucky. Although they are a couple years old now. Fresh battery got me maybe 4 when lucky.
I have a 25k power bank, so I can extend the runtime quite a bit. The "at least once" above is quite conservative. it's probably closer to 2. and that includes using it while charging.
I heard the ryzens are a lot better regarding power, so it doesn't surprise me that the runtime basically doubles
notthebees
in reply to SkaveRat • • •I'd recommend disabling boost and setting cooling to passive.
On windows, if you set maximum processor usage to 99% in advanced power plan settings, it will disable boost. You can set the cooling policy as well. Also repasting is probably beneficial. The more efficient your cooling system is, the less fan usage it will need and you'll get better battery life as a result.
That's what I noticed on the i5 laptop, it would kick on the fans doing basically nothing and would kill battery. When the fans were off, the estimates were higher. Also maybe disabling the P cores in both machines might be beneficial.
SkaveRat
in reply to notthebees • • •yup, I already have boosting disabled.
Mainly due to quite shoddy firmware code that controls the charging. Which causes wild battery flipping behavior even when using a powerful charger. It's a long known issue, and FW is annoyingly quiet on the problem. It's the reason I'm annoyed by their software issue communication handling
[TRACKING] Battery flipping between charging and discharging / Draws from battery even on AC
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in reply to SkaveRat • • •randombullet
in reply to Chloé 🥕 • • •Chloé 🥕
in reply to randombullet • • •yea, that’s what i meant when talking about newer gens being better
i have a i5-1240P (with 55WHr battery) and im lucky to get 5 hours while on power saver reading PDFs
SeeFerns
in reply to Chloé 🥕 • • •I have a newer gen 13 and yeah battery life is mediocre. I love literally everything else about it though so it’s ok.
I can’t remember the last time I wasn’t near an outlet though tbh.
Damage
in reply to SeeFerns • • •tankplanker
in reply to chiliedogg • • •Yeah it pushed me to finally put in an order, got to wait till December now as I'm in the third batch.
I wanted to wait till we had proof thst the graphics card would be updatable and a better one would be available as their AMD card is a bit too lightweight for me.
I would rather it had been a better AMD card, I have a 7900 xtx in my desktop, but i will take what I can get at this point, especially as I know I can upgrade later.
iopq
in reply to Pro • • •DacoTaco
in reply to iopq • • •I think its worth it, but thats not the opinion of a lot of casual people.
And had i not gotten one via my job, i would not have gotten a framework 16 because of the price
woelkchen
in reply to DacoTaco • • •Well, the idea is that you can upgrade components without replacing everything, so the initial cost is higher but the long term cost is lower.
That said, they took their time. The 1st generation is old now. The Radeon dGPU is probably weaker or on a similar level than the new Ryzen iGPU. There is no Radeon dGPU upgrade path other than "just use the old one". They have a better upgrade cadence with the 13 inch model.
DacoTaco
in reply to woelkchen • • •woelkchen
in reply to DacoTaco • • •DacoTaco
in reply to woelkchen • • •Edit: apparently they are working on it, same with a case for the gpu to convert it into a e-gpu
iopq
in reply to woelkchen • • •woelkchen
in reply to iopq • • •What are you talking about? Of course there is newer hardware than a Radeon RX 7700. The 7900 specifically.
The CPU also has no Ryzen 395 option either which Framework source for their unmodular desktop PC.
brucethemoose
in reply to woelkchen • • •They have to stay within the TDP. Their only option is something newer and ~100W (like the 5070).
And I'm pretty sure the 7000 series is going out of production anyway...
Also (while no 395 is disappointing), it is a totally different socket/platform, and the 395 has a much, much higher effective TDP, so it may not even work in the Framework 16 as its currently engineered. For instance, the cooling or PSU just may not be able to physically handle it. Or perhaps there's no space on the PCB.
woelkchen
in reply to brucethemoose • • •A new power brick is needed anyway. That's why FW now has a much more powerful one as well.
The 395 obviously would throttle if heat or power become a problem.
If GPD can put the 395 in a handheld, Framework can put it in a 16" chassis.
iopq
in reply to woelkchen • • •ObsidianZed
in reply to Pro • • •*caresses screen*
some day...
ErableEreinte
in reply to Pro • • •And still no OLED screen... why Framework, why?
I got one of the latest Framework 13 a couple months ago for work, and while I'm happy about the prospects of future repairability and upgradability down the line, it's not a great laptop given its pricepoint.
The build is subpar, with the screen flexing a ton, the keyboard and trackpad are lacklustre and pretty uncomfortable, but the worst is the screen, it's dim, with poor colour reproduction and 3:2 is frankly not for me. And fractional scaling is a mess with XWayland, while it was much better on my 2019 XPS 13.
I love what Framework are pushing for and actually achieving, but tradeoffs are very much at play. I'm hoping for an OLED screen replacement in the near future though.
Appoxo
in reply to ErableEreinte • • •YiddishMcSquidish
in reply to Appoxo • • •BombOmOm
in reply to YiddishMcSquidish • • •Display Kit
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in reply to BombOmOm • • •AlecSadler
in reply to ErableEreinte • • •I've yet to use an OLED monitor that didn't make text look shitty and I've used $1000+ OLED displays with high ratings.
Don't get me wrong, OLED colors and blacks are gorgeous. I love OLED.
Even my Samsung Pro whatever latest laptop with an OLED display...the text just looks off. Which was disappointing because my Samsung phone text is fine.
LG C2/3/4, also gross looking text.
Alienware OLED $750+ monitor? Text was bad.
I love OLED but I've yet to find one that works for productivity.
bassomitron
in reply to AlecSadler • • •Aren't phone screens AMOLED? I'm definitely not an expert, but I thought it was a variation of OLED, which would explain why text looks better.
That being said, I also have an OLED Steam Deck and I can read text on it just fine if the scaling is set correctly in the game or just browsing the web normally in desktop mode.
AlecSadler
in reply to bassomitron • • •Ah, true, thanks for the correction.
Maybe I've just had bad batches of displays? I don't know. I got 3 really nice Asus ProArts and the text clarity and colors are fantastic.
Still wish I had blacker blacks.
firebingo
in reply to AlecSadler • • •AlecSadler
in reply to firebingo • • •Yeah, unfortunately I might be one of those people. I can also see some monitors flickering which gives me a headache in sub 3 minutes.
It's a curse. Especially with in-office pairing.
bluecat_OwO
in reply to AlecSadler • • •I have a friend who has always been picky about displays, I thought he was just being nit picky
Since normally my eyes can't distinguish between 480 and 1080 under normal circumstances and flicker goes un noticed
randombullet
in reply to AlecSadler • • •I think that's PWM dimming vs DC dimming.
PWM dimming turns pixels on and off to make them darker. So for 50% of the brightness, it's off 50% of the time. Higher end panels flicker much faster which helps mitigate perceived flicker. I think 500hz and above is preferred.
For DC dimming is just using voltage to control the darkness with no flickering involved.
ErableEreinte
in reply to AlecSadler • • •AlecSadler
in reply to ErableEreinte • • •Hmm, I am working on converting all my things over to Linux so maybe I'll give it another shot.
Windows always has this weird ghosting going on, super odd.
SkunkWorkz
in reply to AlecSadler • • •Did you turn on PC-Mode with your LGs?
I use an LG nanocell TV as an pc monitor and the fonts didn’t look good until I set the HDMI input type to PC. And ofcourse you need to play around with the font rendering tools like ClearType in Windows.
AlexisFR
in reply to ErableEreinte • • •Gaja0
in reply to Pro • • •3laws
in reply to Gaja0 • • •There is no Thinkpad as repairable as the framework and if they are (they're not) the price is out of reach for individuals since the p51 with LPCAMM2 targets enterprise costumers.
Your brain is wrong on this one. Follow your heart
Yoshi
in reply to Gaja0 • • •Framework has a higher build Quality and a bit loser prices but if this isn't a Problem for you, go for it. Great repairability and replacebility is awesome!
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in reply to Gaja0 • • •Emma_Gold_Man
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in reply to Pro • • •bassomitron
in reply to BlameTheAntifa • • •Out of curiosity, why do you refuse to support Nvidia? AMD isn't some saint, they're a shitty corporation just like Nvidia. They got lucky when Jim Keller saved their asses with the Ryzen architecture in the mid-2010s. They haven't really innovated a god damn thing since then and it shows.
Edit: I get it, I get it, Nvidia is a much shittier company and I agree. I was pretty drunk last night before bed, please pardon the shots fired
ElectroLisa
in reply to bassomitron • • •bassomitron
in reply to ElectroLisa • • •Redex
in reply to ElectroLisa • • •Truscape
in reply to Redex • • •bluecat_OwO
in reply to Truscape • • •naitro
in reply to Redex • • •amorpheus
in reply to bassomitron • • •Neither of them are anyone's friend, but claiming they're the same level of nasty is a bit of a stretch.
Crashumbc
in reply to amorpheus • • •Not saying that supporting the under dog isn't good.
Just don't think AMD is less "nasty", the only thing stopping them is the lack of power to do so.
Domi
in reply to bassomitron • • •Besides what was mentioned below, it's not about making competitive products but about Nvidia being an absolute asshole since the 2000s and they got even worse ever since the crypto and AI craze started. AMD and Nvidia are both corporations but they are not even playing the same game when it comes to being anti-competitive.
There's a reason why Wikipedia has a controversies section on Nvidia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia…
That list is far from exhaustive. There's so much more about Nvidia that you should remember vividly if you were a PC gamer in the 2000s and 2010s with an AMD GPU, like:
Nvidia has been gimping gaming performance and visuals since forever for both AMD GPUs and even their own customers and we haven't even gotten to DLSS and raytracing yet.
I refuse to buy anything Nvidia until they stop abusing their market position at every chance they get.
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in reply to Domi • • •Nvidia to expand Israeli operations with multi-billion-dollar hub
Jasdip Sensi (Capacity Media)unexposedhazard
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youtu.beFrezik
in reply to bassomitron • • •Haven't innovated? 3D chip stacking?
CPU companies generally don't change their micro-architecture, especially when it works.
Arcane2077
in reply to Frezik • • •AlexisFR
in reply to BlameTheAntifa • • •tempest
in reply to AlexisFR • • •Dremor
in reply to tempest • • •boonhet
in reply to Dremor • • •High end gaming laptops needed desktop GPUs anyway, because at least for nVidia, once you get past the **60 range, the mobile version starts getting very small jumps in performance compared to the desktop.
At some point it's cheaper to get a gaming desktop and a cheap laptop lol
BlameTheAntifa
in reply to AlexisFR • • •ZeroOne
in reply to Pro • • •Now if only Framework did that with AMD & Intel GPUs, then we'd all be balling.
Also please make it available in the East
ilinamorato
in reply to ZeroOne • • •Framework Laptop 16 Graphics Module (AMD Radeon™ RX 7700S)
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in reply to ABetterTomorrow • • •Bluewing
in reply to Pro • • •BunScientist
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in reply to Pro • • •tempest
in reply to SlartyBartFast • • •xthexder
in reply to SlartyBartFast • • •github.com/Zokhoi/framework-ce…
GitHub - Zokhoi/framework-cellular-card: USB cellular modem for Framework computers
GitHubinclementimmigrant
in reply to Pro • • •So I'm going to be skeptical here. I had an older 9xx MSI laptop that was touted as replaceable and "upgradable" GPU for the next generation at the time.
That ended up as a big ol' whoops, because replacement screwed with thermals and found that you couldn't actually upgrade because of all kinds of reasons and resulted in a class action suit.
Just color me skeptical on these types of things.
BombOmOm
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •inclementimmigrant
in reply to BombOmOm • • •GPUs a bit of a different monster since there no such thing as a standard socket, you're bound by the manufacturer spec for pin in/out.
And that was the case with MSI laptop and Nvidia partnership when Nvidia went full Darth Vader and changed the terms of the deal.
I mean more power to them if they can actually deliver actual modules that can be upgraded and if I can actually see a generation or two of this actually working, I'll be on board but once bitten, can't fool me again for the time being.
BombOmOm
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •inclementimmigrant
in reply to BombOmOm • • •BombOmOm
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •This is the next generation GPU. The Radeon is a last generation model that you have been able to buy for awhile now. What you are asking for currently exists and is something you can buy on their website right now and upgrade your older laptop:
Prior Module: frame.work/products/16-graphic…
New Module: frame.work/products/laptop16-g…
Framework Laptop 16 Graphics Module (NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070)
Frameworkinclementimmigrant
in reply to BombOmOm • • •brucethemoose
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •Nah, unfortunately they are just as beholden to the GPU makers as any of us. More than larger laptop OEMs for sure.
A future Intel Arc module may be the only hope, but that's quite a hope.
I just got a 10L SFF desktop I can put in a suitcase, heh...
T156
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •notthebees
in reply to inclementimmigrant • • •Cort
in reply to notthebees • • •kepix
in reply to Pro • • •MangioneDontMiss
in reply to kepix • • •FackCurs
in reply to Pro • • •OK I’m a bit confused.
I have a Framework 16” that I bought earlier this year, without the GPU extension bay.
I don’t care that much about the expansion bay as without it, the laptop is already huge. I have an eGPU to play on when I need it.
What upgrade options does this announcement offer to me?
I’m dissatisfied with:
- the webcam
- screen colors / brightness
- key stability on the keyboard (the keys are a bit wobbly)
- speaker sound quality (I’m not expecting the best, but something better than what it shipped with)
They are announcing a new webcam, will it be backwards compatible ?
Otherwise I’m really happy with it, I absolutely love the modular I/O, being able to swap which side the audio jack is is amazing. happy to support this endeavor of repairability
DacoTaco
in reply to FackCurs • • •Manifish_Destiny
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in reply to Manifish_Destiny • • •kopasz7
in reply to FackCurs • • •FackCurs
in reply to FackCurs • • •So I went back to the blog post. They are shipping the Framework 13" webcam in this updated 16" version. The part was already available for me to upgrade!
frame.work/blog/introducing-th…
frame.work/blog/framework-lapt…
Introducing the new Framework Laptop 16 with NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 5070
FrameworkFackCurs
in reply to FackCurs • • •silasmariner
in reply to Pro • • •FFS I was just about to buy myself one and now I'm obviously gonna have to wait until November
Oh, wait, I can just upgrade it. Nbd.
raspberriesareyummy
in reply to Pro • • •humanspiral
in reply to Pro • • •brucethemoose
in reply to humanspiral • • •Problem is almost no laptop has Strix Halo. Not even the Frameworks.
And rumors are its successor APU may be much better, so the investment could be, err, questionable.