UK Official Calls for Age Verification on VPNs to Prevent Porn Loophole
UK Official Calls for Age Verification on VPNs to Prevent Porn Loophole
The call comes as governments go to war with the anonymous web.Bruce Gil (Gizmodo)
New sources of inaccuracy? A conceptual framework for studying AI hallucinations
New sources of inaccuracy? A conceptual framework for studying AI hallucinations | HKS Misinformation Review
In February 2025, Google’s AI Overview fooled itself and its users when it cited an April Fool’s satire about “microscopic bees powering computers” as factual in search results (Kidman, 2025).Magda Tarnawska (HKS Misinformation Review)
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House Oversight and Government Reform Committee to investigate Wikipedia over allegations of organized bias
Comer and Mace Investigate Efforts to Manipulate Information on Wikipedia - United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability
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Apple Revokes EU Distribution Rights for Torrent Client, Developer Left in the Dark * TorrentFreak
While alternative app stores operate independently and are required by EU law, Apple is still in a position to exert some control. This became apparent a few weeks ago, when iTorrent users suddenly ran into trouble when installing the app.
Thought this was an interesting story, since it's pretty analagous to the recent Android situation, with third party app stores being enabled to some extent, but the company retaining ultimate censorship power.
Apple Revokes EU Distribution Rights for Torrent Client, Developer Left in the Dark * TorrentFreak
Apple has inexplicably revoked the EU distribution rights for the iTorrent app, and left its developer in the dark without answers.Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
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it's not an alternative if they still have final say.
it's also not your property if the company can dictate what you run on it either. Stop giving these scum your money.
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StarLite 12.5-inch
Its fanless design ensures your StarLite will never make more than a whisper - unless you want it to. The Mk V supports coreboot open source firmware which you can effortlessly configure to your preferences via our coreboot configurator.Star Labs®
If it's Sailfish OS (Xperias or Jollaphones, updates are paid), apart from apps (hit or miss if it's popular enough, pure miss if it isn't), everything works fine (I guess, I haven't tried it).
If it's anything else, it's still murky.
It isn't. I don't particularly care for phones, and nobody mentioned phones specifically.
Edit: Though there are plenty of linux phones or linux for android phones.
Sadly, there are very few Linux tablets, so we thought we'd give an option.
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Former Silicon Valley CEO( IRL Social Media App) Charged with Fraud and Obstruction of Justice
According to court documents, Abraham Shafi, 38, of Pepeekeo, Hawaii, allegedly committed fraud in connection with Get Together’s 2021 “Series C” funding round, which raised $170 million at a valuation of over $1 billion. In seeking investment, Shafi told potential investors that IRL was spending only $50,000 a month in paid advertising and that user signups “were not incentivized or paid.” However, Shafi had spent millions of dollars on paid advertising in the form of incentive advertising, a form of advertising in which users are provided a reward in a third-party app if they download IRL. In the lead up to Series C, Shafi asked his vendor for a “big burst” of ads for “a few days” to drive more installs of the IRL app. During the Series C process, investors specifically asked about paid advertising, and Shafi falsely responded that “[u]nlike other apps that spend aggressively to acquire new users, we spend very little.” Shafi concealed IRL’s spending on incentive ads by having them invoiced to a third-party firm, ensuring that the nature and amount of the expense did not appear on IRL’s ledger.Shafi continued to conceal the amount that IRL was spending in incentive ads after the Series C closed, instructing an IRL employee to create false invoices that listed the ad spending as being related to infrastructure, or “infra costs,” and falsely telling his investors that the money spent on incentive ads had instead been used for other forms of advertising. When the SEC opened an investigation into IRL, Shafi restored his cell phone to a previously saved backup, resulting in the deletion of records, and instructed other IRL employees to lie about his involvement in the scheme.
Shafi is charged with wire fraud, securities fraud, and obstruction. If convicted, he faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison on each count. A federal judge will determine any sentence after considering the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Former Silicon Valley CEO Charged with Fraud and Obstruction of Justice
A federal grand jury in the Northern District of California returned an indictment charging a Hawaii man with wire fraud, securities fraud, and obstruction in connection with a scheme to defraud investors of $170 million as the CEO and Founder of the…www.justice.gov
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Trump’s administration again appeals to the Supreme Court over his foreign aid funding freeze
Trump’s administration again appeals to the Supreme Court over his foreign aid funding freeze
Trump has portrayed the foreign aid as wasteful spending that does not align with his foreign policy goals.The Associated Press (Federal News Network)
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Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible: British gamers can play the spicy games but can't peek at who makes them.
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36433609
- Itch.io now blocks UK users from viewing NSFW game creator profiles, though some individual adult games remain accessible after age verification.
- The restrictions started in August and align with the UK's Online Safety Act requiring stricter age checks for adult content.
- Developers lose UK discoverability while players can't browse creator catalogs, forcing them to rely on direct links shared elsewhere.
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Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible: British gamers can play the spicy games but can't peek at who makes them.
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36433609
- Itch.io now blocks UK users from viewing NSFW game creator profiles, though some individual adult games remain accessible after age verification.
- The restrictions started in August and align with the UK's Online Safety Act requiring stricter age checks for adult content.
- Developers lose UK discoverability while players can't browse creator catalogs, forcing them to rely on direct links shared elsewhere.
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Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible: British gamers can play the spicy games but can't peek at who makes them.
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36433609
- Itch.io now blocks UK users from viewing NSFW game creator profiles, though some individual adult games remain accessible after age verification.
- The restrictions started in August and align with the UK's Online Safety Act requiring stricter age checks for adult content.
- Developers lose UK discoverability while players can't browse creator catalogs, forcing them to rely on direct links shared elsewhere.
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Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible: British gamers can play the spicy games but can't peek at who makes them.
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36433609
- Itch.io now blocks UK users from viewing NSFW game creator profiles, though some individual adult games remain accessible after age verification.
- The restrictions started in August and align with the UK's Online Safety Act requiring stricter age checks for adult content.
- Developers lose UK discoverability while players can't browse creator catalogs, forcing them to rely on direct links shared elsewhere.
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A lot of legit websites saying they a bad certificate
SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN means incorrect SAN information, proxying, or DNS manipulation is occurring.
You could compare what you see in the browser and what you see via something like:$ openssl s_client -showcerts -connect cs.rin.ru:443
You could also check the DNS resolution and traceroute to see how you are getting there to confirm if DNS is being effected or you are being proxied:$ dig cs.rin.ru @127.0.0.1 A
$ mtr cs.rin.ru
How Trump’s Anti-Environment Crusade Enriches Drug Traffickers
How Trump’s Anti-Environment Crusade Enriches Drug Traffickers - Inside Climate News
The president has pledged to combat transnational drug organizations. Yet these groups make vast sums from environmental crimes, and his administration has gutted personnel and programs that targeted them, a new report shows.Inside Climate News
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Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible: British gamers can play the spicy games but can't peek at who makes them.
- Itch.io now blocks UK users from viewing NSFW game creator profiles, though some individual adult games remain accessible after age verification.
- The restrictions started in August and align with the UK's Online Safety Act requiring stricter age checks for adult content.
- Developers lose UK discoverability while players can't browse creator catalogs, forcing them to rely on direct links shared elsewhere.
Itch.io blocks adult game creator profiles for UK users while keeping some games accessible
Itch.io blocks UK access to adult creator profiles while some game pages remain available after age checks. The change aligns with the Online Safety Act.Riley Fox (Spilled)
I Am An AI Hater. This is considered rude, but I do not care, because I am a hater.
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I am an AI hater. This is considered rude, but I do not care, because I am a hater.moser’s frame shop
The Top 100 [Gen AI] Consumer Apps: Google and Grok are catching up to ChatGPT
The Top 100 Gen AI Consumer Apps – 5th Edition
Which AI apps are people actively using? What’s actually making money, beyond being popular? We analyzed the data.Olivia Moore (Andreessen Horowitz)
OpenAI and Anthropic publish findings from joint safety tests of each other's models, aimed at surfacing blind spots in their internal evaluations
In early summer 2025, Anthropic and OpenAI agreed to evaluate each other's public models using in-house misalignment-related evaluations. We are now releasing our findings in parallel. The evaluations we chose to run focused on propensities related to sycophancy, whistleblowing, self-preservation, and supporting human misuse, as well as capabilities related to undermining AI safety evaluations and oversight. In our simulated testing settings, with some model-external safeguards disabled, we found OpenAI's o3 and o4-mini reasoning models to be aligned as well or better than our own models overall. However, in the same settings, we saw some examples of concerning behavior in their GPT-4o and GPT-4.1 general-purpose models, especially around misuse. Furthermore, with the exception of o3, all the models we studied, from both developers, struggled to some degree with sycophancy. During the testing period, GPT-5 had not yet been made available.
Passenger Assaulted in Viral TikTok Video Sues Southwest Airlines, Blames Seating Plan
Southwest is transitioning to assigned seats in January 2026.
Case file: s3.documentcloud.org/documents…
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Israel launches fresh airstrikes in Damascus countryside in Syria
Israeli warplanes struck several sites near the town of Al-Kiswah in the Damascus countryside in southern Syria on Wednesday evening, local media said, Anadolu reports.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/middleeastmo…
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Mining the Deep Sea Could Threaten a Source of Ocean Oxygen
Deep-Sea Nodules May Produce Oxygen—Raising Concerns over Ocean Mining
Deep-sea rocks packed with valuable metals may also be making oxygen in the deep, dark ocean—raising new questions about the cost of mining them.Rachel Feltman (Scientific American)
US | New Orleans archbishop accused of personally hiding child abuse in lawsuit
Lawsuit has most direct allegations of wrongdoing leveled against Aymond, who denies them, in court filing to date
Bethesda planning a Starfield space gameplay revamp to make it more rewarding
Bethesda seems to be planning an overhaul of Starfield, its latest RPG experience, that targets the game's space exploration and travel portion.
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Bethesda planning a Starfield space gameplay revamp to make it more rewarding
Bethesda seems to be planning an overhaul of Starfield, its latest RPG experience, that targets the game's space exploration and travel portion.
Japanese Online Marketplace Begs People to Stop Selling Ultrasound Photos
Keep it to yourself.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/gizmodo.com/…
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Intel details everything that could go wrong with US taking a 10% stake
Intel warns investors to brace for losses and uncertainties.
911 centers are so understaffed, they're turning to AI to answer calls
The company offers an AI voice assistant that helps 911 centers offload non-emergency call volume.
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Moroccan feminist accused of 'offending Islam' denied medical release despite health concerns
Moroccan feminist Ibtissame Lachgar was denied bail Wednesday despite being treated for cancer, her lawyer said. Lachgar was arrested earlier August after she posted a picture of herself in a t-shirt that read "Allah is lesbian".
Archived version: archive.is/newest/france24.com…
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CDC dramatically scales back program that tracks food poisoning infections
Federal health officials have scaled back FoodNet, a program that tracked food poisoning infections in the U.S. The Foodborne Diseases Active Surveillance Network has cut required monitoring to just two pathogens that cause infections, down from eight
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Nvidia details its itty bitty GB10 superchip for local AI development
Hot Chips: Starting at $2,999, tiny doesn't mean cheap
Croatian president calls for initiating parliamentary process to recognize Palestine
Croatian President Zoran Milanovic on Wednesday called on the country’s government to initiate the parliamentary process for recognizing Palestine as a sovereign and independent state, Anadolu reports.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/middleeastmo…
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Palestinians Call Out Clear Lie in Israeli “Hamas Camera” Hospital Strike Excuse
“I understand that you want to damage the camera. Why [are you] killing the people?” a Nasser Hospital doctor said.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/truthout.org…
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Texas uses special session to push “discriminatory & harmful” anti-trans & anti-abortion bills
Despite mounting public protest, Texas lawmakers are fast-tracking two anti-trans and anti-abortion bills. Both measures are being advanced during a special legislative session convened by Governor Greg Abbott (R), who has made restricting transgender rights and reproductive freedom central to his agenda.
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Red State Declares Infant Death Emergency Amid Rising Mortality Rate
Red State Declares Emergency After Hitting Highest Infant Mortality Rate In The Country
President Donald Trump put the team behind the Pregnancy Risk Assessment Monitoring System on administrative leave earlier this year.Pocharapon Neammanee (HuffPost)
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I was every time sure that Seedit is the best Reddit alt I'm here to tell you why I have been wrong for so long .
It may look quite good at first glance but it has a number of glaring issues. Lets begin with the founder: he's mexican and his name is Esteban and is a known criminal. He created Seedit using funds he obtained from crime. He is not to be trusted.
Then of course are the problems with the platform itself. The obvious are it takes far too long to load. Its buggy and the ui awful and outdated. To make a community you have to host it on your own computer and keep it online forever. There's no sufficient mod tools, not even a mod queue. There's no reliable way to ban someone because they can just change their ip. The name is dumb. It doesn't even use normal sounding urls for the communities, you have to use some crypto url. A mod can ban the whole community and no one can do a single thing. People may use subs for piracy. And of course the obvious no can even post on the default subs because to post you need to be whitelisted and how do you get whitlelisted? You have to message the scammer dev on a different platform. And this costs money to do.
That's not even going into the crypto side of things. They've launched with seedit a scam coin because they think you're easy to fool and easy to scam. The dev says the crypto is optional, he says social media tipping is expected in social media, he says you can use coins that are not Plebbit to tip like BTC. I'm here to tell you he is a liar and he will make his crypto scam entwined with the platform so we are forced to use it. He then says if he does implement forced crypto features then we can fork it because its opensource. And to that I call him a liar, never ever trust a crypto scammer.
This is a warning don't be fooled by platforms that on the surface look good. They're usually led by malicious devs with malicious intent. Seedit is a convulted crypto scam using a reverse funnel system and do not go anywhere near it. He's opensourced it on github but its obvious it contains crypto and maybe even viruses. Never fall for scams. Stay safe.
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Never heard of it. Not gonna look into it because I'm 50/50 on you being affiliated with the app and posting this just to drive clicks.
Assuming you are legit, best of luck finding an alternate you're happier with.
Are we truly on the verge of the humanoid robot revolution?
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36422697
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Unless humanoid robots working in packaging industries is considered a revolution.
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in reply to warm • • •That Weird Vegan
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in reply to IndustryStandard • • •Aceticon
in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •One thing is the Political self-proclaimed Liberals mainly in the Anglo-Saxon world, a very different thing is the Political Ideology of Liberalism.
"Liberals are Fascists" definitely applies to the mainstream politicians in at least the UK, US and Canada who say they are "Liberals" and have "Liberal policies".
IndustryStandard
in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •Tollana1234567
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in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •Deceptichum
in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •All of a sudden?
This is the country where 1984 was written, where they have more cameras than anywhere else, this sort of social surveillance and quiet, polite fascism is normal for the UK.
ComradeMiao
in reply to Deceptichum • • •phutatorius
in reply to Deceptichum • • •And almost all those cameras are privately owned and operated, and not integrated into any kind of centralised surveillance apparatus. More typically, they're in place to deter graffiti or to keep drunks from pissing on the walls outside pubs. Police can and do request footage when investigating crimes, but if a camera owner's retention policy means the footage has been deleted, that's the end of the discussion. And such footage is useful if some arsehole has just jammed a broken beer glass into someone else's face.
The worse forms of authoritarian overreach are the increasingly pervasive number-plate recognition cameras that track the movements of every vehicle, and the inane attempts to regulate the internet and to ban peivate use of encryption.
As for "quiet, polite fascism," I've lived for extended periods in the US and the UK, and so far, despite the seemingly draconian laws, I've always found there to be more personal freedom in the UK. The police don't kill people very often, people tend to ignore the laws and the government can't be bothered to enforce the most intrusive of them, and there's far less social pressure towards brainless conformity and mindless obedience than there is in the States.
Tollana1234567
in reply to Deceptichum • • •Aceticon
in reply to Deceptichum • • •When the Snowden Revelations came out, it turned out the UK did as much or maybe even more civil society surveillance as the US, and unlike the US it doesn't even have constitutional limitations on surveillance of people on their own soil (in fact the UK doesn't even have a written Constitution).
In the US they actually walked back on some of the surveillance (because of said constitutional protections), in the UK they just passed a law that retroactively made the whole thing legal, got the editor of the newspaper who brought out the Snowden Revelations kicked, fired a bunch of D-Notices around (the UK's Press Censorship mechanism) out and nobody ever talked about it again.
As soon as the technology was good enough for that the UK created a Digital Stasi and it's only gotten worse since.
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in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •NeilBrü
in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •I don't know if it's the root reason, but one gets scoffed at harshly by the average Tom, Dick, and Harry when suggesting that a Monarchy is an archaic and, frankly, insulting form of governance in spite of protestations that the role of the sovereign is purely ceremonial.
Simply put, they (mostly) seem to prefer political masochism, and are ruled by sadists. Sadly, in 2025, aren't we all?
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in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •Tony Blair thought that the Labour Party would win if it were more like the US Democratic Party. That began an electorally successful period of unprincipled triangulation and petty authoritarianism. Eventually that momentum fizzled out due to the gloomy paranoid leadership of Gordon Brown, corruption of people like Peter Mandelson, and the loathsome hypocrisy of Blair's lies in support of GW Bush's second Gulf War.
Then the Conservatives got in for 14 years and fucked everything up even worse. Now the Blairite authoritarian-centrist faction is again running Labour, and so far has shown none of the political cunning that kept Blair on top. And the media fawns over the smarmy mini-Trump Nigel Farage despite his party having no policies.
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in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •kepix
in reply to 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 • • •sometimes the french are right. the brits are indeed cunts.
so seriously, this i brilliantly evil. this is the way that will allow some police state level of oversight for both social media, chats, and even vpn data will be tied to your personal file. this is so dark in every possible way.
any site can be labelled porn or harmful at this point. even wikipedia. how dare the young browse the open truth of the internet? and this is already the second phase, mind police.
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in reply to schizoidman • • •dan
in reply to schizoidman • • •Only commercial VPNs? So HTTP proxying, Tor, SSH tunneling, SOCKS tunneling, running your own VPN node, etc are all allowed? There's plenty of VPS hosting companies that don't need ID or proof of age to sign up. Even if the UK requires this, you can just sign up for a server outside the UK.
There's also weird approaches that work but not many systems catch, like tunneling stateless data (like HTTP responses) over DNS TXT lookups.
When I was in high school in the 2000s, kids figured out how to bypass the internet filtering at school. Kids these days have way more resources available to them, making it even easier to do.
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in reply to dan • • •I literally have lightsail (not the equivalent) as well because it doesn't have issues connecting to SK, but China throttles those addresses nevertheless
Why, does AWS use a different IP address pool than lightsail?
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in reply to schizoidman • • •Seeing this from the US scares me. I already have an elaborate system for tunneling my traffic out of the country without it appearing I’m doing so from my end devices.
But seeing this happening in the UK and knowing there’s a chance of it happening here, I really feel the need to get into China-style circumvention with shadowsocks and what have you, and I need to figure this out sooner rather than later.
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in reply to schizoidman • • •The Tor Project | Privacy & Freedom Online
www.torproject.orgSeefra 1
in reply to nymnympseudonym • • •Until the go government starts blocking entry nodes, then there will be a whole new country relying on the snowflake protocol.
Also, this doesn't affect only people under 18, any sane adult should never send a copy of their id to anything but the government, bank, insurance or employer.
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in reply to Seefra 1 • • •That would put them in the company of China, Russia, and Iran. Getting unrestricted Internet to people in those countries is why I am among those who run a snowflake node on a dedicated VPS (the link also has a simple browser addon -- it's easy to support the network, everyone should)
Yes, these moves suck for UK youth. But, anti-censorship tools do exist, and volunteers like me want people who could benefit from them, to know about & use them.
100% agree, take my upvote
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in reply to nymnympseudonym • • •nymnympseudonym
in reply to CheeseNoodle • • •In general real-time games are not great for Tor, because it introduces lots of network latency -- which makes you safer
For most applications, the easiest way to Torify is via using SOCKS from the Tor Browser Bundle, which would let you simply pick Snowflake when Tor Browser starts up. I asked Perplexity for directions on running Minecraft over Tor, here ya go
How do traffic correlation attacks against Tor users work?
Information Security Stack Exchangesobchak
in reply to nymnympseudonym • • •nymnympseudonym
in reply to sobchak • • •Hiding in plain sight: Introducing WebTunnel | Tor Project
blog.torproject.orgpHr34kY
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in reply to schizoidman • • •Trihilis
in reply to Zen_Shinobi • • •They'll just block that too. Can't have a full blown dictatorship without taking away any freedom people have. Better not have a negative opinion about it either.
Holy Fuck 1984 was a warning, not a fucking manual on how to do things.
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in reply to Trihilis • • •Against them evil communists!... oh the irony...
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in reply to ragas • • •Trihilis
in reply to schizoidman • • •Gee I totally didn't see this coming and made a comment about it earlier. Oh wait I totally did.
The peoples republic of United Kingdom.
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in reply to Trihilis • • •birdwing
in reply to Trihilis • • •A true People's Republic would have less surveillance noncence than this.
The UK is a literal 1984 in the works.
Brewchin
in reply to schizoidman • • •Doubling down on the batshit. Everyone knew VPNs were going to be the low effort workaround to this authoritarian batshittery.
I get what the (well meaning, I think) people lobbying for this are trying to achieve, but everything from the lobbying to legislation to enforcement seems to be happening in the worst way imaginable. Almost like it's an intentional "You want to see how badly can we do this? Hold my drink! YOLO!!"
For me, the tell was UK PLC leaving it up to the sites themselves to decide who/how the verification would be done. Classic bad management "I don't understand the slightest thing about any of this, but HOW HARD COULD IT BE?!" response. It's like the "series of tubes" stupidity all over again.
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in reply to Brewchin • • •Quazatron
in reply to schizoidman • • •brsrklf
in reply to Quazatron • • •Quazatron
in reply to brsrklf • • •I feel you, protests in my country are not as effective as french or spanish protests, and usually devolve into large picnics instead.
Because you can't protest in an empty stomach. On the other hand, now we're too full to protest. Let's go home, Benfica is playing today.
Aceticon
in reply to Quazatron • • •Hooliganism is members of the Working Class fighting other members of the Working Class or Foreigners due to nothing more than tribalism and enjoying violence.
It has zero to do with pushing back on those with power over them or standing up for one's principles.
Hooliganism is actually a perfect example of the one of the ways the elites in the UK control the "lower" classes by having them discharge their anger at each other instead of going against the powerful.
Quazatron
in reply to Aceticon • • •figure of speech dating from Roman antiquity
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in reply to schizoidman • • •Like Idiocracy has been a manual for the US, V for Vendetta is a manual for the UK.
For fuck sake people, these are movies of worlds we DON'T want to live in.
Roflmasterbigpimp
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in reply to Roflmasterbigpimp • • •Roflmasterbigpimp
in reply to TigerAce • • •How about I get us started? To get the groove going;
AHHH! Look at my Bank Account! I have money left after paying rent! OHHH THE HUMANITY! 😨
TigerAce
in reply to Roflmasterbigpimp • • •Drugs are cheaper than groceries, also delivered within 15 minutes while groceries take 1 to 2 days. Guess what I'll be consuming tonight instead of dinner!
1 grocery bag with food for 2 day: 75 euros.
Or:
5 grams of ketamine: 25 euros.
5 xtc pills: 10 euros.
3 grams amphetamine: 15 euros.
I just saved 25 euros expenses, with enough for 5 days! Yay!
Roflmasterbigpimp
in reply to TigerAce • • •Just get a Fent-a.
The only soft drink with the extra kick of terrible addiction!
TigerAce
in reply to Roflmasterbigpimp • • •SpookyLights
in reply to TigerAce • • •TigerAce
in reply to SpookyLights • • •zod000
in reply to TigerAce • • •dankm
in reply to TigerAce • • •On the planets in the Cardassian/Federation neutral zone....
TigerAce
in reply to dankm • • •0x0
in reply to TigerAce • • •Add some 1984 to the mix.
captainlezbian
in reply to 0x0 • • •Well both books were written to describe what british authoritarianism would look like.
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler
How long before we have a leak of the PM masturbating to state violence? Ugh V for Vandetta was so sexual in such an intentionally uncomfortable way
:::
themachinestops
in reply to captainlezbian • • •captainlezbian
in reply to themachinestops • • •I didn't watch the movie, but I can't imagine an American movie getting away with what the comic did. Yeah, one of the major themes of the comic is the fucked up sexuality displayed by the fascists and the leader gets off on the concentration camps.
Really good comic, but it's definitely a lot. Moore did a really good job of depicting the fascists as pathetic but dangerous. Though fair warning, if Moore could think of a slur a brit might possibly use it's in that comic.
captainlezbian
in reply to TigerAce • • •TigerAce
in reply to captainlezbian • • •Wooki
in reply to schizoidman • • •UltraMagnus0001
in reply to Wooki • • •abbiistabbii
in reply to Wooki • • •The UK isn't a Federal Country. It's a Unitary state with Devolution. I know it is basically a Federal state in Practice (Holyrood, Cardiff Bay and Stormont all have varying amounts of autonomy) but the distinction is significant.
This is the fucked up bit though: The OSA doesn't put the burden of Age gates on the State. They put it on The Service Provider (Websites and services). This is why so many non-porn forums, lemmy instances, and mastodon instances have either had to shut down or geoblock the UK, all the responsibility is on them to institute this lest they get sued out the arse. They can't afford to get YOTI or whatever, or don't have the manpower or money to institute their own system, so they shut down.
It's also why overblocking is a thing: because the OSA's official defination of what should be blocked is so vague so the two people who decide what get's blocked are the Service Provider and the Government effectively in that order. This is why Reddit is blocking things that should not be agegated (like support groups), because the law is so fucking vague, and why sites like Twitter are blocking tweets that don't need to be blocked under the "news" exception (yes, there is an exception for the news).
All of this, by the way, is because an investment trust and thinktank (yes, a lovely little conflict of interest) called Carnegie United Kingdom Trust pretty much wrote the OSA for the government. As an investment trust, they invest money in things, but being private, they don't need to tell Joe Public what they invest in, nor to the Investees need to tell us. So basically, they invested in YOTI or some others like it, and are making money from it because so many sites are forced to have it to work in the UK.
And all the other major tech players (Alphabet, Meta, Microsoft) are developing "Digital ID" systems as a "solution" which will not only make it easier to track people for them and the government, but also for advertisers, so they aren't complaining either.
TL;DR, The UK basically put all the pressure on the Websites so their friends can make loads of money.
FishFace
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •Can you link more information about this conflict of interest? I can't find anything about it.
abbiistabbii
in reply to FishFace • • •- YouTube
www.youtube.comFishFace
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •I got around to watching this video... without having seen this guy before (and therefore having no reason to take what he says at face value), and with the "source" in his description being almost unrelated to the video content, all that's left is that "Yoti is funded by trusts, Carnegie is a trust mentioned on Yoti's website."
That is conspiracy-theory level. The author doesn't even go so far as to draw actual conclusions; he's saying "we need to follow the money" which is reasonable, but you are saying "Carnegie invested in an age verifier and that's why they wrote the law." That's going well beyond the facts. You wouldn't stand for it when some moron tries to cast doubt on climate science and you shouldn't stand for it now just because it tickles your biases.
Quite possibly. But almost certainly a lot of Carnegie's money is going to companies who provide online services who now have much higher costs from doing age verification, content blocking and users fleeing, simply because there are a lot of companies in that position.
Soup
in reply to FishFace • • •Just a fun fact about “think tanks”, “institutes”, “foundations” and most of those little groups is that when they appear in the news there’s a solid chance that they’re being propped up by corpo money. Every time they appear you need to go double check their bias and you’ll often find that it will be they themselves saying they’re “a conservative think tank” and, if not that, there will likely be a Wikipedia article and a bunch of other sources confirming it. I’m sure there are good ones, but it’s largely just oil companies and banks and big tech funding some corrupt as hell “academics” in order to buy some credibility.
I loved when I got into with one person over climate change and all they could do was send me articles that use oil-backed think tanks and which quoted a climate scientist who’s such a huge liar that whole webpages exist to organize and debunk all his paid-for bullshit.
Wooki
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •FishFace
in reply to Wooki • • •Wooki
in reply to FishFace • • •It very much is.
Doesn't matter who or how its recovered. Its still a state mandated cost, aka indirect tax.
Every single piece of legislation costs the population. They all add a million cuts to the costs of living. In times of economic crisis these costs need to come down not up.
Edit: addressing the ad revenue stream. Again irrelevant. The ad revenue stream is reduced, some platforms are talking about charging UK users the outcome is the same. Maybe some pull out of the UK or force more ads into the freemium services costing time.
FishFace
in reply to Wooki • • •The requirement to file accounts is not a tax. Call things what they are, not whatever you've decided they're similar to in your mind. To do is either confusing or dishonest, depending on whether people ultimately see through what you're doing or not.
Opposition to this on the basis of finances requires you to actually have some idea of the fiscal outcome. If the number of British children who end up bypassing the rules and viewing genuinely harmful material is small then it will result in lower costs from children traumatised, mentally ill or killing themselves.
I oppose the act because of incalculable costs to privacy, not because it might mean Facebook has to display 10 more ads to someone to maintain their profit margins.
Wooki
in reply to FishFace • • •You should practice it.
Levy is a Tax.
Absolute bollocks. Doesn't require anything. It only requires personal opinion. Parliament runs on it.
Of course the privacy impact is huge. privacy just does not matter to the average working voting person trying to put groceries on the table.
MPs wont change the stance here because people want to be protected by anonymity. Frankly they won't change stance at all. Its a certainty at this point.
But it will increase the cost of business which will be passed on and definitely exploited.
"Wont somebody think of the children"
Plenty of children starving in the UK because Government services cant raise revenue to maintain existing levels of public services.
I look to the UK and see the future of western economies. Boned badly, society highly controlled with a large overall tax burden, years of immigration to keep the budget balaced on paper increasing the impact all to delay the fallout. And yes while this will most likely not register a blip to the CPI, its still yet another cut in the wrong direction.
FishFace
in reply to Wooki • • •If your opposition is just based on vibes than it can be ignored based on nothing more than that.
Oh, you are talking about an actual fee in the legislation, not the cost of contracting with a company that verifies ages.
The cost though is £70 million. Since you raise the prospect of child poverty, the one policy the government needs to reverse to improve child poverty is the two-child benefit cap, which would cost £2.1bn, so this policy costs 3% of a substantive policy on child poverty.
A high estimate for how many deaths could be prevented by lifting the cap is about 300 per year, that I have seen (it's not really about the cap itself but is about modelling what would happen if Labour were able to reduce child poverty at the same rate it was in 1997-2010, which would presumably include eliminating the cap). 3% of 300 is 9 deaths. While I don't support the OSA, I think it is completely plausible that a policy which reduces the amount children are looking at extreme violence and advocation of eating disorders and suicide would prevent in the region of 9 deaths per year. About 150 children die each year by suicide (according to statistics, which will undercount the problem because parents as a rule don't want their child's death to be recorded as suicide). And saving 9 lives is to bring this policy in line, cost-wise, with an estimate that relates to a whole programme of government, which will in reality cost far more than £2.1bn.
Cost is not the right lens through which to examine the OSA, no matter what your personal opinion tells you.
Wooki
in reply to FishFace • • •Welcome to politics. Have you never seen parliament debate?
bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
theguardian.com/society/2025/j…
Is history at this point
‘Stress crisis’ in UK as 5m struggle with financial, health and housing insecurity
Patrick Butler (The Guardian)FishFace
in reply to Wooki • • •Yes. The convincing speeches are those with facts behind them.
You are wrong. The vibes tell me... but so do the facts.
abbiistabbii
in reply to Wooki • • •The Online Safety Act doesn't apply any new taxes on anyone. It forces service providers (IE: Private Companies) to institute age checks through either AI Face checks or ID either through an in house solution or buying services from a third party (YOTI or similar). It imposes a cost on a business where they have to either spend money setting up an age verification solution or acquire one from a private company. The government doesn't impose any new taxes on people on businesses with this bill, but instead makes companies who run services give money to other companies to comply with the law.
In short, the censorship isn't being done directly by the state, it's being done by private companies under pain of massive fines by the state. Other than suing websites or dealing with court challenges (which is done in house), all the actual legwork is being done by private companies, some of whom, like YOTI, are making handsome amounts of cash.
Wooki
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •Read my post, you really didn't read it.
I'll spell it out.
State created the law. That creates a cost to be recovered. How that cost is recovered is irrelevant, it's s state mandated cost aka tax.
abbiistabbii
in reply to Wooki • • •Just because it's a state mandated cost doesn't mean it's a tax. Tax implies the money goes to the government to pay for goods and services. It's actually worse than that: it's a levy.
A levy doesn't go to the government. A levy goes to whatever person provides the good or service. For example: if I tax alcohol based on alcohol content, the amount of money added to the tax goes to the government. If I place a levy based on alcohol content, the amount of money that is added goes to the person/company selling the booze. An example of a levy is the plastic bag levy, which was put in place to reduce plastic pollution. That money you spend on a bag doesn't go to the government, it goes to the people you got the bag from, and they can do whatever they want with it, keep it, give it to charity, use it to buy Heroin on the deep web, you name it!
What this law has effectively done has made service providers (not just companies, but whoever runs the site) a choice: They can either develop their own age verification system or pay a company (like YOTI) to do it for them. Most service providers do the latter because they do not have the resources to do the latter.
Does the money go to the government? No (except maybe under the table nudge nudge wink wink), it goes straight to the company. What the government has done is force entities to give a private company money.
It's a tax in the way, let's say, a hypothetical Right-Libertarian government might tax you, or even an American Homeowners Association might "tax" you: making you give a private company money.
Wooki
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •Levy, lol.
Call it what it is: a tax.
A burden on the population. No amount of dirty politics changes the fact. Taxes do not all get directly paid to gavernment. Like sales taxes, service tips ect.
Edit wrote another post, more depth.
abbiistabbii
in reply to Wooki • • •The population being the people who run self hosted forums with a certain amount of British users. If you are one of those people, yeah, I'm sorry, I hate it too, but the vast majority of the UK don't run forums with a large amount of British users. Fun fact, the End users (the people giving away their IDs) aren't actually paying shit to anyone bar their IDs.
VAT (what you call "sales tax") does go to the Treasury. Like when you buy something, that 20% extra you paid goes off to the government via the Taxes the shop pays. That's how VAT works.
Services tips aren't really a thing in the UK, especially not mandatory ones because food service workers in the UK aren't exempt from the minimum wage.
Are you even from the UK? Are you even in the UK? Because if you were from here, or even if you spent any amount of time here, you would've known the following things:
Considering these things, I think you're American. In that case, please, do us a favour, don't act like you're a fucking expert on this. I live in the UK, Scotland to be precise. Shit's bad, The OSA can get tae fuck, but having Yanks who watched videos made by other yanks who don't know shit about fuck on the ground lecture me about my own fucking country as if it's just "America with funny accents" not only doesn't help, it's just spreading bullshit.
Wooki
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •Users dont pay for the services. Okaay.
Well done you know how sales tax works. Customers pay the business. Business pays the Government. My point.
Swing and a miss on all points.
FYI I used the common terms for your benefit, you sounded American.
abbiistabbii
in reply to Wooki • • •...and where in this chain is YOTI et al paying the government?
Frankly, you sound like the most odious little turd I have ever met on Lemmy.
PalmTreeIsBestTree
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •abbiistabbii
in reply to PalmTreeIsBestTree • • •Oh my sweet summer child:
PalmTreeIsBestTree
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •SkunkWorkz
in reply to Wooki • • •Mrkawfee
in reply to schizoidman • • •abbiistabbii
in reply to schizoidman • • •I fucking hate the UK, so much.
The MPs and Peers only fucking learnt about VPNs when this bullshit bill was being passed. They're so fucking clueless about the whole thing. They don't understand what a VPN exactly is and what it does and the fact their own government (hopefully) uses them, as do Banks (for security), Companies, and indeed, how it works.
This will lead to more bullshit.
NocturnalEngineer
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •Wrote a email to my MP for this exact reason.
The OSA needs repealing. All it's doing is either teaching people to follow poor digital hygiene practices, or forcing people to follow more risky methods of bypassing the OSA controls.
Whole guise of child safety is laughable when they've made zero attempts to educate everyone (not just kids) on being safe online.
MrRazamataz
in reply to NocturnalEngineer • • •NocturnalEngineer
in reply to MrRazamataz • • •pressanykeynow
in reply to abbiistabbii • • •abbiistabbii
in reply to pressanykeynow • • •Korhaka
in reply to schizoidman • • •Blackmist
in reply to Korhaka • • •Yeah, I noticed Google had evaded the ban.
Would have thought they'd be all over the opportunity to gobble up even more data.
Itdidnttrickledown
in reply to schizoidman • • •squaresinger
in reply to Itdidnttrickledown • • •darklamer
in reply to squaresinger • • •There's no need to go that far, there will still be plenty of well-known and trustworthy providers who care about the law but simply operate outside of UK jurisdiction.
squaresinger
in reply to darklamer • • •In that case they have to geoblock UK to be out of UK jurisdiction. Which a lot of these providers are already doing.
And if they aren't doing it themselves, the UK will likely do it for them by forcing UK network providers to block them.
shalafi
in reply to Itdidnttrickledown • • •some_guy
in reply to schizoidman • • •Let's extend our unpopular law to more places! Soon, you'll have to verify your age to see boobs in real life. Which will be pretty unfortunate for teens trying to get busy in the backseats of cars.
- YouTube
www.youtube.comiknowitwheniseeit
in reply to some_guy • • •ikidd
in reply to schizoidman • • •I wonder how they figure that's going to work out.
I couldn't imagine being this pants-shittingly stupid about how the internet works.
PastafARRian
in reply to schizoidman • • •Don't forget to donate to Tor Project and/or a relay operator if you use it, even $1 covers like several TB of traffic.
We did the year of Linux. Let's make this the year of Tor.
mic_check_one_two
in reply to PastafARRian • • •PastafARRian
in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •Vanilla_PuddinFudge
in reply to PastafARRian • • •A VPS is one of the best tools on the internet. Make your own relay, with or without blackjack and/or hookers.
PastafARRian
in reply to Vanilla_PuddinFudge • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •You use Tor to pop out in any other more enlightened country where you use bitcoin or some other crypto to purchase access to a good vpn and download the installer.
Then download TBs of porn through your shiny new vpn subscription rather than bogging down the onion network
iknowitwheniseeit
in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •swelter_spark
in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •treesquid
in reply to schizoidman • • •Zarathustra
in reply to treesquid • • •drspawndisaster
in reply to Zarathustra • • •Tollana1234567
in reply to treesquid • • •SkunkWorkz
in reply to Tollana1234567 • • •Frezik
in reply to SkunkWorkz • • •Arcane2077
in reply to Tollana1234567 • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to schizoidman • • •Use tor to tunnel to a more enlightened country
buy vpn anonymously
use vpn
Korhaka
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to Korhaka • • •TeddE
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •privateinternetaccess.com/page…
(Not the most economical, but a good way to bootstrap into a VPN if more traditional payments are not available)
Private Internet Access Anonymous VPN
www.privateinternetaccess.comDreamlandLividity
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to DreamlandLividity • • •at the moment no one is going into that level of granularity. I do own some monero, if i feel the need in the future i may switch over to that completely or at least start purchasing bitcoin anonymously which is something else a VPN can help with.
Add to that the fact that if a place accepts crypto there's a good chance that they only accept one and that is BTC
DreamlandLividity
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •SkunkWorkz
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to SkunkWorkz • • •Let's Go 2 the Mall! ❌👑
in reply to schizoidman • • •infinitesunrise
in reply to Let's Go 2 the Mall! ❌👑 • • •SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to schizoidman • • •UltraBlack
in reply to SocialMediaRefugee • • •Akasazh
in reply to schizoidman • • •MystikIncarnate
in reply to Akasazh • • •They wouldn't be able to get this shit to fly against the other members of the EU, I don't think.
Those people are doing the Lord's work, forcing companies to give control over user data, to the users, making USB C a standard for all devices... I won't list everything, but shit. The rest of the world has benefited by proxy on so many things, because of the EU.
The UK is acting like a bunch of pearl clutching soccer moms.
Jason2357
in reply to schizoidman • • •pressanykeynow
in reply to Jason2357 • • •Luffy
in reply to pressanykeynow • • •Opisek
in reply to Jason2357 • • •ErmahgherdDavid
in reply to Opisek • • •In the UK we already have a law where isps block porn by default (blacklisting) the adult who took out the plan can contact the isp and ask them to opt out of these blocks. That's been a thing for about 10 years. You can own a Pay-as-you-go sim as a minor but you have to send government id to prove you are over 18 to get the adult content filtering turned off.
That's one of the things that made it clear to me that the new law is an authoritarian data mining operation and blatant power grab. Like... We already have these tools in place. If you don't want your kid accessing porn, don't opt out of the filters provided by your isp.
You could argue that putting the onus on the platform is more effective at "protecting kids" than having the isps maintain blacklists but there will always be small sites that don't comply and enterprising kids who find a way around any block. Just like the law requires you to be 18 to buy alcohol or tobacco here but there are always dodgy shops who sell tobacco to underage kids. There are older siblings and relatives willing to buy cigarettes and alcohol for underage teens.
This was never about protecting the children. That was the Trojan horse used to justify these laws to the technically uninformed.
Why is my internet blocking adult sites? - How web filters work
Matt Powell (Broadband Genie)Vanilla_PuddinFudge
in reply to schizoidman • • •Yuri addict
in reply to Vanilla_PuddinFudge • • •Fluffy Kitty Cat
in reply to Yuri addict • • •Vanilla_PuddinFudge
in reply to Fluffy Kitty Cat • • •They take crypto, wash a few satoshis through lightning and you're as good as anonymous.
sure, xmr would be better, but 🤷🏻♂️
edit: well shuck my corn!
"We accept cash, Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Monero, bank wire, credit card, PayPal, Swish, Eps transfer, Bancontact, iDEAL, and Przelewy24."
Vanilla_PuddinFudge
in reply to Yuri addict • • •That's a niiiice tip.
Deleting my account and re-joining under TOR when my lapse comes around. Might as well hide my use entirely.
moopet
in reply to Vanilla_PuddinFudge • • •MystikIncarnate
in reply to schizoidman • • •To the people of the UK:
What the hell is this authoritarian, pearl clutching shit? You're fucking shit up for everyone. Can you get your people to please fuck off?
Thanks, from some guy on the Internet.
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MrRazamataz
in reply to MystikIncarnate • • •You can be damn sure the "people of the UK" have nothing to do with this, we didn't vote on it.
Should just take a leaf out of the French book and just start burning shit.
MystikIncarnate
in reply to MrRazamataz • • •The French get shit done. I can certainly say that. They're a population that really won't stand for being shit on. It's why they made such good use of the guillotine, historically.
Taking a page from their book may not be a bad idea.... Or you could reference the alleged works of Saint Luigi from America. He also made a profound impact. At least for a while.
qwerty
in reply to schizoidman • • •TheProtagonist
in reply to qwerty • • •oatscoop
in reply to TheProtagonist • • •It's funny, because that's exactly what I did around the age of 13 to bypass my school's firewall. I had everything on a USB drive, including Ghostzilla and PuTTY so I could browse through an SSH SOCKS tunnel. Mind you, my home computer was the SSH server -- but these days it wouldn't be hard to get a VPS in a less restrictive country:
"Hey [parent], can I borrow your credit card to set up a server so my friends and I can play [game] together?"
It takes one kid in a group to set something like this up.
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Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)gedhrel
in reply to TheProtagonist • • •Cyrus Draegur
in reply to schizoidman • • •ZeroOne
in reply to schizoidman • • •Avicenna
in reply to schizoidman • • •mazzilius_marsti
in reply to schizoidman • • •all of the sudden these goody two shoes politicians want to control porn for "the safety of the children"
what a bunch of tards
MissingGhost
in reply to schizoidman • • •andallthat
in reply to schizoidman • • •HugeNerd
in reply to andallthat • • •HugeNerd
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