Is the amount of Lemmy activity declining?
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Top pediatricians buck RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine meddling on COVID shot guidance
Top pediatricians buck RFK Jr.’s anti-vaccine meddling on COVID shot guidance
The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends children under age 2 get vaccinated.Beth Mole (Ars Technica)
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Vienna announced as host city for Eurovision song contest 2026
Vienna announced as host city for Eurovision song contest 2026
Final of 70th edition of competition to be held on 16 May at the Wiener Stadthalle, Austria’s largest indoor arenaGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Yes, but none that even comes close to Vienna in terms of size. Vienna has over 2 million inhabitants, the next city (Graz) has only 300 thousand.
Innsbruck (132000 citizens, 5th biggest city in Austria) actually also made a bid to host the contest but lost to the capital
At least 78 people killed as bus collides with fuel truck in western Afghanistan
At least 78 people killed as bus collides with fuel truck in western Afghanistan
Children among dead after bus carrying Afghans deported from Iran crashed and caught fire in Herat provinceGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Reading the article, sounds like they have a fuel tanker crash problem. There's been several in the last 3-4 years all involving busses and fuel tankers. I get there's awful road conditions and few regulations but it's suspiciously common for a bus to hit a fuel tanker at least once a year.
Especially, judging by the photos, in such an open space. I've never driven in the desert so correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like there's enough visibility to prepare for crossing paths with another vehicle? I'm sure rolling off-road into the sand is better than ramming into a fuel truck.
French streamer dies live on air after months of humiliation and abuse
French streamer dies live on air after months of humiliation and abuse
Raphaël Graven, known online as Jean Pormanove, was well-known on the streaming platform Kick. The 46-year-old former soldier was regularly beaten and abused by two other influencers during livestreams.Jérôme Lefilliâtre (Le Monde)
In videos posted by this group, Graven – a wiry former soldier – and "Coudoux," a person with a disability and under guardianship, were frequently mistreated, suffering blows, insults and humiliation at the hands of the other two. Cenazandotti and Hamadi in particular regularly slapped their two partners hard on the head, grabbed their throats to strangle them, and spat or poured various substances on them.Despite the hard-to-watch violence, the creators claimed these videos were meant to be humorous. The group raised money from complacent viewers, either through recurring subscriptions or one-off donations. Some viewers encouraged even more degrading abuse in the comments. By the end of the long livestream that ended with Graven's death, the fundraising counter shown on the video suggested they had collected more than €36,000.
French streamer dies live on air after months of humiliation and abuse
French streamer dies live on air after months of humiliation and abuse
Raphaël Graven, known online as Jean Pormanove, was well-known on the streaming platform Kick. The 46-year-old former soldier was regularly beaten and abused by two other influencers during livestreams.Jérôme Lefilliâtre (Le Monde)
The Orwellian echoes in Trump’s push for ‘Americanism’ at the Smithsonian
The Orwellian echoes in Trump’s push for ‘Americanism’ at the Smithsonian
Donald Trump aims to rewrite America’s official history, including at one of the nation’s key sites of public history-making: the Smithsonian. George Orwell would recognize Trump’s impulse.The Conversation
The Terminal Demise Of Consumer Electronics Through Subscription Services
The Terminal Demise Of Consumer Electronics Through Subscription Services
Open any consumer electronics catalog from around the 1980s to the early 2000s and you are overwhelmed by a smörgåsbord of devices, covering any audio-visual and similar entertainment and hobby nee…Hackaday
Yeah, as I said, it is a wacky gimmick, and it does work. My teen kid got a big kick out of it and at the insane price some of the new artists have been charging to get their music in cassette form, it pays for itself in less than three albums if I already had them digitally.
I will say again that it is a $60-ish portable music player, don't expect $1000 Sony gear build quality or interface. I specifically didn't want some sort of Franken-Android DAP, which most newer dedicated music players are, so it worked out.
India and China hail warming ties amid Trump-induced geopolitical shake-up
Visit to Delhi by Wang Yi, China’s top diplomat, has seen both countries agree to resume trade ties and work towards resolving border dispute
India’s prime minister and China’s foreign minister have hailed “steady” progress in their countries’ fractious relationship, agreeing to resume trade and other ties, as well as work towards resolving the long-running Himalayan border dispute, amid a global geopolitical shake-up instigated by Donald Trump’s tariff regime.
According to statements from China’s foreign ministry, the two sides agreed to resume direct flights – reiterating a pledge made in January – as well as issuing visas to journalists and facilitating business and cultural exchanges.
On social media, India’s prime minister, Narendra Modi, noted “respect for each other’s interests and sensitiveness”, while China’s foreign ministry said the countries had entered a “steady development track” and should “trust and support” each other.
India and China hail warming ties amid Trump-induced geopolitical shake-up
Countries agree to resume trade links and work to resolving border dispute after visit to Delhi by top diplomat Wang YiHelen Davidson (The Guardian)
Investigation into horrifying death of French streamer
Investigation into 'horrifying' death of French streamer
Raphaël Graven, also known as Jean Pormanove, was found dead at a residence in Contes, a village north of Nice, prosecutors said.Liv McMahon & Tom McArthur (BBC News)
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Kick is a streaming platform?
I always thought it was some weird messaging platform that scammers always used. Now I get it
I know, i know, reddit ass but still, heres. a thread discussing it with VOD clips linked. TW tho...
Six severed heads found on road in Mexico
Mexico: Six severed heads found on road
Police have not given a motive for the killings in a large peaceful region of central Mexico.Will Grant (BBC News)
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DR Congo rebels killed 140 civilians despite peace process, rights group says
DR Congo conflict: M23 rebels killed 140 civilians despite peace process, Human Rights Watch says
Attacks were carried out in more than a dozen villages last month, Human Rights Watch says.Wycliffe Muia & Barbara Plett Usher (BBC News)
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Australia’s peak Jewish group condemns Netanyahu’s ‘clumsy’ attack on Albanese and calls for end to ‘spat’
Australia’s peak Jewish group condemns Netanyahu’s ‘clumsy’ attack on Albanese and calls for end to ‘spat’
ECAJ says Australian and Israeli governments should use ‘diplomacy rather than public posturing’Sarah Basford Canales (The Guardian)
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Israeli government official charged with soliciting 15-year-old girl in Las Vegas
Israeli government official charged with soliciting 15-year-old girl in Las Vegas
Police say Tom Artiom Alexandrovich brought condom and thought he was meeting teenager for ‘sexual contact’Adam Gabbatt (The Guardian)
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‘It would be a terrible loss’: Ukrainian frontline troops sceptical of ceding land
‘It would be a terrible loss’: Ukrainian frontline troops sceptical of ceding land
Near Dobropillia new trenches are visible, drone attacks continue and there is no sign of the fighting easingDan Sabbagh (The Guardian)
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Malaysian state threatens to jail Muslim men who skip Friday prayers
Malaysian state threatens to jail Muslim men who skip Friday prayers
Under the new laws in Malaysia’s Terengganu state, first-time offenders could be imprisoned for up to two years and finedIma Caldwell (The Guardian)
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Under the new laws in Malaysia’s Terengganu state, first-time offenders could be imprisoned for up to two years and fined
So can they leave Islam and not be bound by the obligation to show up?
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Sounds like that's illegal too. Rather more illegal.
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Attempted Apostasy and Apostasy offences in MalaysiaTerengganu
Criminal offense
Apostasy
Repentance in 3 days or death sentence and forfeiture of property.
Says that the federal government apparently has a constitutional issue with states imposing the death sentence, so it hasn't been applied, though.
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In Malaysia it's illegal, but it has yet to have a death penalty for apostasy. Kelantan is currently trying their best to make it legal tho, so we'll see where that goes. The punishment is an expendable arrest where the syariah courts will send their officer to detain you for a year or two and sending you to a Muslim therapist or something. Yea they treat people who committed apostasy like they have some kind of mental problems. And how long they will be detained will depend on the syariah courts. If they think they should keep you in their "correction center" for 5 years, then you'll be there for 5 years. Which means, yes, you're most likely are gonna lose your job, house, and car just because you no longer believe in what they believe in.
If there’s one thing better than religion, it’s a religion merged with the state.
American wingnuts see things like this, and are getting excited at the possibilities.
Should we remove XSLT from the web platform?
cross-posted from: lemmy.bestiver.se/post/555312
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My comment: It seems google is trying to pull another Manifest v3 and JPEGXL - propose then ignore everyone and do it anyway.
Should we remove XSLT from the web platform?
What is the issue with the HTML Standard? XSLT v1.0, which all browsers adhere to, was standardized in 1999. In the meantime, XSLT has evolved to v2.0 and v3.0, adding features, and growing apart f...mfreed7 (GitHub)
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Inside Canada's 'Starlight Tours' And The Saskatoon Freezing Deaths
The Saskatoon police perpetrated a series of "starlight tours" in which they drove Indigenous people to the outskirts of the city and left them to freeze to death.Genevieve Carlton (All That's Interesting)
Powerful Libyan official in talks with Israel to resettle Palestinians from Gaza
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Some excerpts:
Speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of the issue, Libyan, Arab and European officials told MEE that National Security Adviser Ibrahim Dbeibah, a relative of Prime Minister Abdul Hamid Dbeibah, was spearheading the talks despite Palestinians in Gaza flatly rejecting US President Donald Trump's postwar plan for the enclave.The source said that in an attempt to placate some Libyan leaders, the US was prepared to confer economic support or other benefits in exchange for the country taking in Palestinians.
The idea of Libya serving as a possible new home for expelled Palestinians comes amid reports that Khalifa Haftar, a powerful military leader who also oversees a rival rubber-stamp parliament in the country's east, was offered greater control over the country's oil resources if he agreed to resettle hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.
"The Palestinians will not be getting any care from those governments, which will push them to the following catastrophe, [which] will lead to a new wave of migration towards the shores of Europe. And this is also a scary thought, firstly because the past decades have proven to us that many of them will only make it halfway through the Mediterranean, like many of those boats that capsized. And those that would eventually get to Europe, I do not think that Europe would be welcoming of another one million Arabs arriving at its shores, as the Syrians who just made similar journeys just few years ago."
Exclusive: Powerful Libyan official in talks with Israel to resettle Palestinians from Gaza
A senior official in Libya's internationally recognised government has held talks with Israeli officials over a proposal to resettle hundreds of thousands of Palestinians expelled from Gaza, multiple sources have told Middle East Eye.Faisal Edroos (Middle East Eye)
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In this case it is even more insidious in my eyes. After Gaddafi has been ousted, Libya has been effectively split and maintained dysfunctional. Now they try to exploit this split and dysfunctionality to promise recognition to whichever side is willing to play their evil game.
The same is don in talks with South Sudan and Somaliland, exploiting weakened countries that have split off and struggle for international recognition. Of course all of the "candidates" are wholly unprepared to provide any sort of safety to the ethnically cleansed people. In my eyes this has strong resemblance to the Madagascar plan of the Nazis, where the inability of the receiving land to adequately care for the people and subsequent large numbers of people killed by starvation and/or conflict with the local population is by design.
In a way it is offshoring further genocide through ethnic cleansing.
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The regime change in Libya was primarily motivated by France, not the US. It is tied to France continuous presence in its former colonies in North and West Africa.
There is currently a scandal ongoing in France as the Sarkozy Government was probably bankrolled by Gaddafi .
The US is far from the only "player" meddling in Africa and West Asia and they don't need Israel to "order" them in many cases. What is special about the US Israel relationship is that the US is still doing what Israel wants most of the time, even if it is contrary to US interests. Many times their interests unfortunately did align in the past.
How former French president Sarkozy allegedly received millions from Libya's Gaddafi
The trial of former French president Nicolas Sarkozy came to a close this week, ending three months of exhaustive examination of allegations that the right-wing politician had struck a bargain with Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi to finance his 2007 …Paul MILLAR (FRANCE 24)
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It may have been motivated by France but Libya was one of the "7 countries in 5 years" which the neocons planned on regime changing after 9/11 as part of the Project for the New American Century.
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The Memo that Outlined U.S. Plans to Overthrow 7 Countries in 5 Years
Exposing the Plan The Memo that Outlined U.S. Plans to Overthrow 7 Countries in 5 Years A shocking revelation of a secret memo detailing plans for regime changes in the Middle East, driven by a small …HASE Fiero (Information-Warfare Magazine)
There simply is no "good option" in ethnic cleansing and genocide.
What should be done is forcing Israel to end the genocide and provide full access for humanitarian help. Then Israel needs to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza and all the war criminals need to be brought to justice in The Hague. European countries could easily enforce that by ending all weapons shipments and economic and diplomatic support for the illegal occupation as well as blocking all land, sea and air routes for any shipment to Israel that is beyond food, medicine and other basic necessities for life. Bonus points for threatening sanctions against the Arab states complicit in helping Israel such as the UAE, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Even more bonus points for breaking the naval blockade and allowing unhindered humanitarian access by Sea.
We have seen with the US that Trump actually doesn't fight, once someone stands up to him. China stood up to him and he stepped down quickly in the tariff bullshit. Russia isn't even bothering to pretend anymore and Trump is instead bullying Ukraine on behalf of Russia. If the US would be the only one left supporting Israel in the West, the Arab traitor regimes would also reconsider, if they want to go with the US down this path or quickly switch sides, which is in line with what their populations want.
The continued treachery of the Arab regimes will blow into their face and has the possibility to bring on a new Arab spring in Egypt and Jordan, which could spiral out of control for Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states quickly. Ethnically cleansing millions of Palestinians into Egypt or Jordan would certainly be the tipping point for these regimes.
If the EU countries get their shit together, they will realize that they are in the process of setting a region with hundreds of millions of people ablaze by continuing their lackluster response to Israels crimes and could face down a "refugee crisis" compared to which everything before was a walk in the park on a sunny day in May.
I’m just thinking of saving lives here. Justice is too much to ask in this sick world.
Democrats let it all out at their party meeting
Democrats let it all out at their party meeting
The party had some wins to celebrate, but did not settle its arguments left over from 2024.David Weigel (www.semafor.com)
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Flight attendant was four times over alcohol limit, court told
Flight attendant was four times over alcohol limit, court told
Kathryn Scott denies a single charge of performing an aviation function when over the alcohol limit.BBC News
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I really don't care about people not being sober as long as they can function correctly.
Everything else is just strong arming people into the awful state of being conscious in this horrible reality.
I really don’t care about people not being sober as long as they can function correctly.
Regardless of the rest you wrote that I disagree with, she crashed her car on the way to the flight that she was removed from, blaming the steering. Not sure how that would qualify as "function correctly"
That's true. I read over it.
But in general I think we should stop judging people. Except the ones that crash their car of course.
Brazil's top court rules US laws do not apply to its territory
Syria’s top diplomat and an Israeli delegation meet in Paris as US pushes for normalizing ties
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That’ll show ‘em.
A Debilitating Virus [Chikungunya] Surges Globally as Mosquitoes Move With Warming Climate
Chikungunya, which can disable victims for years, is spreading rapidly, including in China and other places that have not seen it before.
We could have wiped them off the face of the Earth if we had pressed the attack with DDT for one more decade. Look how we did in America; Wiped malaria out in 1951. (Some of that was infrastructure improvements!)
Rest of the world was happily on their way and in 1972 the US said, "Fuck you, got my problem solved, banned." Of course they couldn't ban it in other countries but the US said, "No ban, no trade.", which is a de facto ban.
One more decade and a concerted push could have eradicated mosquitoes. Then we could have banned it forever. That stupid bitch Rachel Carlson and her book Silent Spring raked up a malarial death count to rival Hitler.
Protester arrested over ‘Plasticine Action’ T-shirt: ‘How ridiculous is this?’
It was only after Miles Pickering arrived at Scotland Yard following his arrest that the police realised they had got things embarrassingly wrong.The T-shirt worn by the Brighton engineer did not express support for a proscribed terrorist group, instead the words on it read “Plasticine Action” and inside the letter “o” was an image of the stop-motion character Morph giving two thumbs up.
Speaking to the Guardian, Pickering admitted it was designed to be an easy mistake to make, appearing to look like the logo of Palestine Action, the protest group banned under terrorism legislation last month, but text underneath the logo reads: “We oppose AI-generated animation.”
Protester arrested over ‘Plasticine Action’ T-shirt: ‘How ridiculous is this?’
Miles Pickering says crowd at protest over Palestine Action ban was laughing at ‘silliness’ of scene as he was detainedRobyn Vinter (The Guardian)
It's really not the 'where', it's the general thought ((less)(ness)) we should not be slightly relieve at other people doing stupid shit, we should -as people- make a stand against stupid shit.
I think we should unite against stupid shit being laid upon us by greedy people rather than laugh at each others' misery.
Woman arrested in Bali over cocaine allegedly smuggled in sex toy, could face death penalty if convicted
The officers allegedly found 3.1 pounds of cocaine inside a sex toy hidden in her genitals and in her underwear. Police also accused her of smuggling dozens of ecstasy pills
Woman arrested in Bali over cocaine allegedly smuggled in sex toy, could face death penalty if convicted
There are dozens of traffickers on death row in the country, including a cocaine-smuggling British grandmother.CBS News
Son of Norway’s crown princess charged with four counts of rape
Son of Norway’s crown princess charged with four counts of rape
Marius Borg Høiby charged with 32 offences and could face up to 10 years in prison if found guiltyMiranda Bryant (The Guardian)
Frankly, I wish we just abolished the damn monarchy already. I hate that we still have kings and queens in a democratic country even if they are just ceremonial. They don't deserve all this media attention just because they got a lucky birth
Treat all of them as one would any other citizen and be done with it. Unfortunately, the monarchy still faces popular support towards existing, though I hope it changes sooner or later
Coding students whose jobs were taken by AI forced to find work at Chipotle
Coding students whose jobs were taken by AI forced to find work at Chipotle
The arrival of AI coding assistants such as GitHub Copilot, CodeRabbit and others has accelerated the decline for entry-level programming roles.Ariel Zilber (New York Post)
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in reply to 11111one11111 • • •OpenStars
in reply to lowspeedchase • • •If you mean the "how is your day going so far" type of posts, I don't think those are meant to be deceptive so much as to generate engagement by placing the post into people's subscribed feeds.
But if you mean the same identical post, that's not great - perhaps you want to unsubscribe from communities that do or even allow such practices.
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in reply to surfrock66 • • •People always complain about this but Lemmy does actually combine crossposts in your feed. What frontend are you using? Or maybe it's just bugged? If someone can figure out the bug and how to reproduce it, it needs to be submitted to GitHub.
Here's a reference to the feature, a fixed bug, disabling the deduplication for a single community view github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/i…
Crossposts to same community with some time difference need to be not hidden
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in reply to artiman • • •Usually whenever I want to make a post, I think back to the comments I typically receive and think better of doing so, then don't.
I'm sure this is happening elsewhere too, e.g. on Reddit, though balanced by a much larger user base (and ofc bots doing a lot of the actual posting, and sometimes the commenting as well).
I probably should comment less often too:-). Really, touching grass and talking with people irl is much more fulfilling.
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Total posts by month appears fairly linear.
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
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in reply to frongt • • •Thank you, I had been looking for actual data and couldn't find it. You're right, does not seem to be declining.
I wonder if there an increasing percentage of bot posts, since I have prolific bot accounts blocked.
I wonder what's up with that number of servers decline.
brucethemoose
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Consolidation? Which is fine to that extent.
I'd wager many experimented with hosting a younger Lemmy, and hosts who couldn't sustain it got shaken out over time.
I wouldn't assume the rise in posts/comments is all bots, either. I don't have anyone blocked, and it doesn't feel overrun to me.
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in reply to brucethemoose • • •Some of it had to do with there not being enough admins to go around afaik. Lemm.ee for instance couldn’t find enough admins so they shut down. Moderating an instance seems like one of the hurdles that go along with running an instance. I could imagine some people dipped out of Lemmy for a little while if their server was deleted since they’re starting from scratch again. It took me a good month or so to make this account and ramp back up my own activity here for instance.
The admins across the servers do a good job of keeping bots out imo. If it ever becomes a problem the admins could look to adopt BlueSky’s moderation tools down the line, I feel. As BlueSky makes it easy to filter bots, misinformation spreaders, and have user level content controls.
Sergio
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Also keep an eye on: piefed.fediverse.observer/stat… A couple thousand people (and several communities) moved there after lemm.ee died, but we interact with lemmy.
As for why it subjectively seems to be declining... maybe you know what you're gonna see in New, and so you engage less with posts? Maybe it's time to be more of a poster!
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
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in reply to Sergio • • •I noticed on the redditalternatives subreddit whenever someone mentions Lemmy and someone else is like "I didnt like it because of XYZ" someone else will often say "you should look into Piefed its much better"
Which is funny to me but at least it's working!
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in reply to Sergio • • •I don't think so. For ages (maybe two years) I'll sometimes sit in bed in the morning and browse New until I hit the stuff I saw previously. That used to take me well over an hour - maybe two - but now it takes less than thirty minutes.
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Total Lemmy Active Users by Month
There's a big spike during summer time. On reddit it was known as summer reddit. Basically all of the kids are out of school and have nothing better to do but shitpost online. Now they're going back to school. It could be the lack of different users you're noticing. Not sure why it dipped in July though, should have dipped in August.
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in reply to Coelacanth • • •Ah, good point. Forgot about that. That's probably it.
The slight dip so far this month could be the beginning of the end of the summer Lemmy. Schools just started this week near me, and green is 30 day users so it should take 30 days for that to fully drop.
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in reply to jackalope • • •I specifically said linear and not flat because it is a non-exponential increase.
You could say the rate of posts is flat, but the data series is posts, not rate of posts.
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in reply to frongt • • •If i'm not mistaken, the very last graph showing posts by month shows a significant decreasing over the summer, or at least specifically july (since august is not over yet). It says June is around 12M posts and July around 9M. August seems already over 9M and we're only 2/3 in, so maybe there was some drop around July for some reason, which could explain OP's feeling.
As for the reason, i'm not sure, maybe a combination of factors like some server blocking access from UK with the latest privacy bullshit, some server having signficant downtime (i think slrpnk.net had a problem with servers locking themselves up while tech admin was abroad), and maybe non-Lemmy factors like holidays (though they don't seem to impact previous years stats).
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in reply to frongt • • •Looking at the more detailed breakdowns, it looks like there are a couple of servers (Lemmit.online, alien.top among others) with huge numbers of posts/comments that appear to be entirely bots. Are those counted in the stats? Could those be messing with the overall graphs? If Lemmit's quarter of a million posts a month are counted, its going to make the monthly posts stat useless when even .world only has about 15k posts a month.
Edit: Comparing the graphs to the server list, it looks like Lemmit is counted, so the main graph is likely misleading. I did look through some of the bigger servers, and their rate of posting seemed fairly linear, but there isn't a good way to check overall.
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in reply to TheMinister • • •It's not 10 millions created during a month, it's 10 millions existing posts at a certain month, whatever their creation date.
The actual number of posts per month would be the different between the total number of posts between two months.
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •I don't know how to check for the whole lemmy but seems it's growing a bit but the MAU dropped a bit probably because of august: fedidb.com/servers/lemmy.world
But the fediverse in general doesn't grow too much except when a scandal happens.
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in reply to 4Robato • • •Watch out, the statistics might not say what you think they do.
"Total users" is a meaningless metric. All it showes is how many users aren't using lemmy anymore.
"Monthly active users" is the only meaningful metric, and it's fluctuating and currently going down.
"Activity growth" doesn't actually show the number of new activities per month, but the total count of activities. So with constant activity you'd expect linear "activity growth" and with growing activity you'd see the line curling upward. It is currently mostly linear but slightly declining.
So these statistics show a slow decline, not an increase.
But in a way you can be happy that it doesn't grow a lot. With the base architecture of ActivityPub (every instance contains a copy of everything, all content needs to be propagated to all instances, all content needs to be duplicate-moderated by all instances' admins) it is absolutely not designed to handle large amount of users.
If only a tenth of a percent of Reddit users were to switch over to Lemmy, everything would grind to a halt and most instances would have to close down because running them would become to expensive for a non-profit project.
Skavau
in reply to squaresinger • • •squaresinger
in reply to Skavau • • •This here is a better source: lemmy.fediverse.observer/daily…
That's all of lemmy over the last 1000 days.
Most important takeaways:
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
lemmy.fediverse.observerSkavau
in reply to squaresinger • • •I suggest you look at the piefed activity indicator for more context here.
A big chunk of the lemm.ee base went here, and its gaining servers where Lemmy is losing them.
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
piefed.fediverse.observersquaresinger
in reply to Skavau • • •Skavau
in reply to squaresinger • • •squaresinger
in reply to Skavau • • •Kbin exists as well, unless something changed since the last time I looked.
But one thing is for certain: The whole field isn't growing right now.
Skavau
in reply to squaresinger • • •squaresinger
in reply to Skavau • • •Yeah, that's true.
What is a bit of a fact though is that Lemmy and the other Lemmy-likes are basically a set of forums and not a Reddit killer.
In fact, all of Lemmy's and Lemmy-likes' usage statistics combined are about comparable with the Crackberry forum or the LTT forum.
Fluffy Kitty Cat
in reply to squaresinger • • •4Robato
in reply to squaresinger • • •Yeah one has to be careful with statistics and I couldn't find the whole Lemmy in one place so it's also not representative of the whole Lemmy.
I thought ActivityPub did scale well and was ATProto (Bluesky) which had a lot more issues. I mean I can comment on Peertube using my Mastodon account meaning the whole Fediverse is properly connected and we are 1M MAU so I would say it already scaled good.
squaresinger
in reply to 4Robato • • •Here's all of fediverse: lemmy.fediverse.observer/daily…
Also remember, though it says 'daily' in the title, that only refers to that the stats are grouped by day. They are still total numbers (e.g. total number of posts that are available on that day, not number of new posts created that day).
Lemmy has the big issue that each instance needs to cache the whole content of each community any user of that instance ever subscribed to. Since Reddit-style platforms only make sense if there are huge communities that means that the biggest communities have most of the traffic while being subscribed to by most instances. That means that most instances have copies of most content.
Same goes with moderation. Since every instance holds a copy of the content, each instance's operator is liable for illegal content stored on their server, and most instance operators also want their moderation guidelines enforced across the whole instance, even for content coming from other instances, so each instance needs to moderate all content. Content moderation on one instance is not propagated to other instances (unless the moderation happens on the host instance of the community), so you end up with moderators of dozens of instances each having to individually e.g. delete the same post.
This is already such a strain that e.g. Lemmy.ee got shut down because it was just so much work and money doing all of that, and that's with a miniscule amount of ~40k monthly active users across all of Lemmy. Compare that to the 1.2 billion monthly active users on Reddit. If we only got a tenth of a percent of all Reddit users over to Lemmy, the whole system would come crashing down.
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
lemmy.fediverse.observer4Robato
in reply to squaresinger • • •Aah I didn't knew this issue from Lemmy, really interesting. Creating a decentralized platform raises many new challenges that are hard to solve!
Now I get why piefed approaches moderation in a different manner and tries to be more resource friendly.
Thanks for the info! Really interesting stuff 😀
PlzGivHugs
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •I've definately noticed it too. I've tried to look for stats, and most seem to indicate that there is plenty of activity, but I dont really see it. At this point, I can scroll through the day's all feed in like 20 minutes, nonetheless my subscribed feed. I kind-of wonder if theres one or two instances with a lot of bot activity effectively inflating the numbers.
Edit: Is there a way to see monthly posts by instance, or compare percentage of posts? That would be an easy way to prove or disprove my bots theory.
Edit 2: fediverse.observer shows monthly (Or rather, total by month) local posts by instance but not federated, and their overall stats are warped by a few bot instances that you can't filter out. That said, for local posts on a few of the big instances, the rate seems stable. That said, smaller instances are shutting down so I don't know if that has an impact on the overall posting rate.
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •I don't think it is, maybe we are due for another growth spurt but from here on out I genuinely think a critical mass has been achieved where it will simply make more and more sense for people to come here.
I do think we face a real inertia right now where the general public has become convinced corporate social media sucks because people suck not because corporations suck and we need to refute that misconception if we want the fediverse to have a vibrant future.
It is really frustating how evidently unhappy most users of corporate social media are about their social media use, yet they show no signs of stopping and when you start to provide an alternate vision of social media they immediately shortcircuit to "social media is bad, I don't want more".
I do think if we don't start pushing back with an affirmative positive vision of why social media can be good we may see a period of depressed growth but I don't see that happening yet personally.
NoneOfUrBusiness
in reply to supersquirrel • • •Maybe for English and a handful of major European languages, but there's no way I could recommend the Fediverse (at least the Threadverse; I don't hang out on Mastodon) to an Arabic or Japanese speaker. In that area it's still severely lacking.
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in reply to NoneOfUrBusiness • • •Lady Butterfly she/her
in reply to NoneOfUrBusiness • • •OpenStars
in reply to NoneOfUrBusiness • • •free and open-source federated social networking service
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in reply to BaroqueInMind • • •Defederated instances
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in reply to Kierunkowy74 • • •OpenStars
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in reply to AlexisFR • • •Kyrgizion
Unknown parent • • •Same. I feel like Lemmy is really a lot like early Reddit (pre 2012) and the sizes of the communities are perfect. You can actually contribute to a discussion instead of drowning in 20k inane joke posts.
Some niches remain underpopulated but I feel like this will eventually rectify itself as the more critical and thoughtful people move away from vapid platforms like Reddit, FB or IG. We'll continue to welcome them with open arms.
sunzu2
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Could be your instance not federatinv with everything.
I blocked half of fedi as such as DNC whores over at lemmy wrld and shepooh cock riders on ml
Still get a decent trickle.
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in reply to Kyrgizion • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •It's summer, a few active posters are busy with either kids or time off
!fedigrow@lemmy.zip has a weekly thread for active posters, it used to be more active in June
It's fine, people will probably come back in September
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •It's funny though, because someone else said activity spikes in the summer because kids are out of school.
Blaze (he/him)
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •I saw it, but I'm not sure it's correct as the graph in that comment shows a dip rather than a spike
Also, most of the kids today are mostly on Tiktok or Twitch rather than text-based forum, be it Reddit or Lemmy/Piefed
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to pugnaciousfarter • • •AstralPath
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •When I run out of stuff to see on Lemmy, I touch grass. Simple as.
I feel way more in control of my online experience when endless scrolling isn't possible.
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in reply to AstralPath • • •This might seem like a clever way to say "sour grapes" to me. Saying that "little content is good because it avoids endless scrolling" is as weird as saying "living in the desert is good because it helps me control my diet".
To address the point: activity seems very much slowed down, and we have two years since the Reddit "exodus" and very little progress to show. We are yet to convert any significant significant community, most people just accepted the status quo and you can bet that the few active people around here still rely on Reddit to find content and repost here.
Aside from this meta-discussion about Lemmy and the Fediverse, there is basically no native group or community emerging.
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in reply to Fluffy Kitty Cat • • •subbed.
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in reply to cerebralhawks • • •Blaze (he/him)
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •Welcome!
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in reply to Blaze (he/him) • • •OpenStars
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •Welcome! While you are still looking around, you may want to check out PieFed as well & e.g. piefed.zip/ . It offers tons of features that Lemmy lacks, like categories of communities, which are user customizable and shareable, flairs (both user and post), polls, combining together all cross-posts across all communities, etc. Check it out and prepare to just fall in love with it!😀
Even better, while Lemmy is written in the Rust language and adds features at the timescale of multiple years (not joking here) whereas PieFed is written in Python and adds new stuff literally weekly. So the gap in feature sets, instead of ever closing, will only continue to widen over time.
Although if you are going to stay with Lemmy, you would be hard pressed to find a better one than what you are on now. Fortunately, you may not have to choose, if it opens up a PieFed instance by the same people (discussion).
cerebralhawks
in reply to OpenStars • • •So let me see if I understand you correctly. The "one I'm on now" you refer to in the third paragraph, meaning dbzer0, is an instance of Lemmy (along with others) that are federated (loosely united) together in the same feed.
You're on piefed.social, so you're federated with dbzer0 and the other Lemmy feeds. So it's not like you're on a whole other federated social network like Bluesky (which is more like Twitter whereas Lemmy is more like Reddit). But it has different programming, so you can access more/different features from your end than I can on mine, but we still have access to the same communities?
Still kinda struggling to understand how fediverse stuff works.
Kierunkowy74
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •cerebralhawks
in reply to Kierunkowy74 • • •Thanks! I went and followed the discussion link the other guy posted. I saw one concern — the handling of voting. But someone/some people are going behind a lot of those comments and saying they fixed it based on user feedback. So that's good. I also feel I understand the two (Lemmy and Piefed) and their relationship a bit more.
If it sounds like I'm a bit eager to learn, it's because I like to help others, but to do that I have to understand things first.
OpenStars
in reply to cerebralhawks • • •Yup, as said already, exactly like that.
Most social media these days is a single system / platform, like Facebook or Reddit. Federated media is rather like email where whichever service you send it from (Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc.), the recipient receives it and you don't need to care about exactly how.
I feel that analogy is overly simplistic, and leaves people baffled as to what defederation means. So instead I like the idea that federation is akin to ships (pirate or free trade) passing messages around - some captains have beef with other captains and refuse to talk with them, but otherwise you have access to the entire network of all messages.
It does get slightly more complicated when you rise up above the forum-based "Threadiverse" (Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin, and arguably flarum and nodeBB) to discuss the wider ActivityPub-based "Fediverse" - those entirely different platforms can pass messages between them, but it is not always so easy or straightforward, e.g. Mastodon is based on people whereas the Threadiverse is centered around "communities" (on Reddit these were called subreddits), so for someone on Mastodon to talk to someone on Lemmy (or PieFed) they would have to jump through several hoops to make it happen (although Mbin eases that process). That's basically the end of my knowledge there bc I don't use Mastodon but I hope that helps to have gone that far at least.
Getting back to the ship analogy, you personally could, in theory, have your own ship, which you could use either privately, or share with a few friends, or even open it up to the public. That "machine" that you use, that "server", in Fediverse terminology is called an "instance". And it will have "admins" who run it, as well as "moderators" who run the communities on it. Also, it will need to pick which variety of software to run, so like there are Lemmy instances, and PieFed instances, and Mbin instances, etc. Sometimes the same admins run multiple of them, e.g. lemmy.world is by far the largest Lemmy instance, and now they have branched out to try out a PieFed instance as well called PieFed.world. It's the same people, possibly running on the same machine or at least you could imagine that, but a different software platform.
lemmy.dbzer0.com is a Lemmy instance, and one day that awesome admin dbzer0 (a real person, though surely that's not their irl name😂) may likewise make a PieFed instance, perhaps it will be called PieFed.dbzer0.com, or something, who knows.😀
Regardless, the messages will get passed between them. Your choice of instance gives you a different experience bc you are picking a different captain of your boat - maybe you'll even decide to become one yourself - and then yes the software that is run on the instance greatly changes your method of access. e.g. PieFed has flairs (both user and post varieties) and polls, but since Lemmy lacks those, the only way to participate in such is to use that same software, i.e. to sign up on an instance that runs it (or maybe one day Lemmy will catch up and offer all 3 of those? I am sure that it will, but I sincerely doubt it will happen anytime "soon"). Here is an example of a post that uses a poll (and a couple of post flairs, and also hashtags too). Btw the sidebar of that community has some good resources to learn more about the Fediverse if you are interested. But that post itself is not able to be viewed on a Lemmy instance, since it uses a poll which Lemmy does not know how to handle.
And then defederation is a whole other thing. When one captain (admin) gets mad at another captain (admin) for just absolutely REFUSING to respect the rules that collectively were agreed upon - sending spam, harassment of users, trolling behaviors etc. - defederation can be a method of last resort to cut off all communication with them. It stops any messages from that point forward - for good or bad - which can cause confusion but I want to point out that the captain ("admin") is literally the owner of their personal ship (machine/"instance") and so has the right to do as they please with it. And all the more so if the instance is open to the public, in which case they arguably have the responsibility to protect their users from the trolling and harassment campaigns. "Free speech" is never free, someone must always bear the cost, of maintenance, of platforming it, and so on.
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •Ypsilenna Gloomvale
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •I would suspect that people either started going back to Reddit, or decided to get a mental health break from the internet as a whole (which wouldn't surprise me, the internet is pretty depressing lately).
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in reply to Ypsilenna Gloomvale • • •ArtificialHoldings
in reply to Ypsilenna Gloomvale • • •Ypsilenna Gloomvale
in reply to ArtificialHoldings • • •I also agree on the political ragebait part. I narrow my feed down to the communities I follow only, because the moment I use "All", I get a lot of these.
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in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •El Barto
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in reply to El Barto • • •Sorry to hear your experience was so bad, but welcome back.
The situation with bots and trolls on Reddit is horrific. Do you remember that time a few years back when Russia disconnected their whole country from the Internet? That day there was a dramatic decrease in assholes and trolls. Like, night and day, it was unmistakeable and widely commented on.
So hopefully Lemmy doesn't catch on so will that those folks come here in force, too. For now at least, it's much better.
comfy
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •At the very least, I suspect Lemmy, as a federated network, has more power to filter them. We saw years ago what happened when the Wolfballs bigots tried to join, they were eventually isolated by most other instances who continued to run without them. So as long as we can retain a situation where the largest instances actually take a solid stance against assholes and trolls and bigots, then it becomes much easier to make them all optional, shunned to register on the more liberalist permissive instances.
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in reply to comfy • • •krunklom
in reply to El Barto • • •ArtificialHoldings
in reply to AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) • • •The last major push to leave traditional social media was in January, following Zuckerberg and Musk's appearances at Trump's inauguration. Many people leaving X and Meta platforms joined up on Bluesky and Fediverse platforms to replace their activity. It's been 7 months, meaning those who didn't find Lemmy a viable replacement have definitely left by now.
If there was a graph of overall activity, you'd probably see a huge increase around December-January, following a slow decline to a slightly higher baseline than November.