Should i pirate EVERYTHING or only things that i bought, but do not own?
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In a lonely world, widespread AI chatbots and ‘companions’ pose unique psychological risks
In a lonely world, widespread AI chatbots and ‘companions’ pose unique psychological risks
It’s no surprise these lifelike AI companions are attractive to lonely people. But for some, these relationships are harmful and even dangerous.The Conversation
New self-assembling material could be the key to recyclable batteries
MIT researchers have developed a self-assembling battery material that rapidly disintegrates when exposed to organic solvents, potentially transforming electric vehicle battery recycling and addressing the growing challenge of electronic waste from the expanding EV market.
The breakthrough, published Tuesday in Nature Chemistry, introduces an electrolyte material composed of aramid amphiphiles that self-assemble into mechanically stable nanoribbons when exposed to water, yet completely dissolve within minutes when immersed in organic liquids. This allows entire battery packs to fall apart naturally, enabling separate recycling of individual components without the harsh chemicals and high temperatures typically required.
"So far in the battery industry, we've focused on high-performing materials and designs, and only later tried to figure out how to recycle batteries made with complex structures and hard-to-recycle materials," said lead author Yukio Cho, a recent MIT PhD graduate now at Stanford University. "Our approach is to start with easily recyclable materials and figure out how to make them battery-compatible."
New self-assembling material could be the key to recyclable EV batteries
MIT researchers designed molecules that can serve as the electrolyte in a lithium-ion battery and then quickly break apart at the end of the battery’s life, making it easier to recycle all of the components.MIT News | Massachusetts Institute of Technology
My brother in Christ, have you heard about our lord and saviour the Scientific Method and the proliferation of cross-domain ideas? How do you imagine the li-ion batteries came about as the go-to energy storage solution? Incremental improvements of ideas would be my guess, ideas have to start somewhere and of course they’re going to be hyperbolic since researchers are both excited and have to draw attention to their ideas.
I sympathise with your point but the alternative is little to no research into different battery technologies because close to nothing will ever emerge as a competitive day-one drop-in replacement, but some ideas may prove exciting to others who understand the value and they might push the ball further towards realistic alternatives.
I don't fault researchers for publishing novel research that might not go anywhere. I explicitly understand the scientific value in doing so.
I do not think it's valuable to breathlessly regurgitate those claims to the broader pop-sci public though. A) It's boring to read the same overhyped battery press release every single week. And B) it shakes people's faith in science, in the same way that people's faith in medicine has been shaken by bad reporting on every study that says X could give you cancer or make you live longer.
AI powering China's industrial evolution
AI powering China's industrial evolution
'Industry plus artificial intelligence' cresting across Chinese manufacturing landscape, driven by tech companies scrambling to develop AI agents to solve tasks.www.chinadaily.com.cn
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Judge Fines Pirate IPTV Man €30,000, Owing Sky €500K is Punishment Enough
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36476619
A pirate IPTV reseller investigated by Sky, who destroyed evidence and dissipated assets in violation of two High Court orders, has been found guilty of contempt of court. David Dunbar of Co Wexford, Ireland, operated 'IPTV is Easy' and according to him, generated nearly €500k in profits while doing so. Since that money is now owed to Sky, a judge at Ireland's High Court imposed a fine of €30,000 rather than a prison sentence, concluding that on balance, he'd suffered enough.
U.S. Recommends 57-Month Prison Sentence in 'Spider-Man' Piracy and Firearm Case
The U.S. government has recommended a lengthy prison sentence for a former employee of a disc manufacturing company. He previously admitted stealing and distributing numerous DVD and Blu-ray discs, including 'Spider-Man: No Way Home'. The recommendation is largely based on an unconnected firearm charge, not copyright infringement. The MPA has requested to speak at the sentencing hearing, noting that the movie studio victims likely lost tens of millions of dollars.
U.S. Recommends 57-Month Prison Sentence in 'Spider-Man' Piracy and Firearm Case * TorrentFreak
The U.S. has recommended a lengthy prison sentence for a man who admitted to stealing Blu-ray discs, including "Spider-Man: No Way Home".Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
Iran ready for ‘serious' cooperation with China, Pezeshkian says ahead of visit
Iran ready for ‘serious' cooperation with China, Pezeshkian says ahead of visit
President Masoud Pezeshkian has voiced Iran’s readiness for “serious and constructive” cooperation with China, particularly within the framework of Beijing’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), ahead of his planned visit to China later this month.PressTV
The Political Awakening of the Oyster Farmer Gunning for Susan Collins
The Political Awakening of the Oyster Farmer Gunning for Susan Collins
Graham Platner’s campaign launch has been a sudden sensation. But what he’s building now is rooted in the work of a lifetime.The New Republic
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Finland rejects chat control proposal: Finds it unconstitutional
Finland has now joined the ranks of Austria, Poland and the Netherlands in rejecting chat control, the proposed EU law that would threaten encrypted messaging and eliminate privacy in private communications.
The Ministerial Committee on EU Affairs elaborated on its previous positions and noted that Finland still considers it very important to establish an EU-level legal framework to improve the detection, reporting and elimination of sexual violence against children in the EU. However, Finland cannot support the most recent compromise proposal because it contains a detection order that has been found problematic from a constitutional standpoint.
We need more resistance against this incredibly dangerous law - we cannot allow totalitarianism to creep in through a phony "save the children" narrative. If they wanted to save the children they would start with what is happening in the open at Instagram and Tiktok, not by attacking secure channels of communication.
chatcontrol.eu contains some information about how you can pressure your representatives to oppose this law.
Chat Control: The EU's CSAM scanner proposal
🇫🇷 French: Traduction du dossier Chat Control 2.0 🇸🇪 Swedish: Chat Control 2.0🇳🇱 Dutch: Chatcontrole The End of the Privacy of Digital Correspondence Take action to stop Chat Control now! The Chat Control 2.Patrick Breyer
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OpenAI Says It's Scanning Users' ChatGPT Conversations and Reporting Content to the Police
OpenAI Says It's Scanning Users' ChatGPT Conversations and Reporting Content to the Police
OpenAI has authorized itself to call law enforcement if users say threatening enough things when talking to ChatGPT.Noor Al-Sibai (Futurism)
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A lot has been written about "ai", decades and generations ago. I'm not sure if anyone considered the impact on human emotions in a manner that's toxic and widespread.
I'm just thinking of a future story where a portion of the population are so traumatized by conversations with machines that they escape their realities in various ways. People talking with computers as if they're human seems very dystopian from the start. The next ten yers is going to be wild.
But also, this is a damn good start to the Thought Police. Imagine if a government gained access to these logs. Actually, I'd be surprised if the US govt didn't already have access to twitter. They're already cracking down on free speech that criticizes them / him.
Still though, Asimov imagined every chatbot would be a big bulky robot, not a tiny app in your pocket.
They are definitely worth a read!
Actually, I’d be surprised if the US govt didn’t already have access to twitter.
Edward Snowden basically proved they did with his revelation of the PRISM program plus the NSA's use of backdoors in 2013.
Fake TradingView Facebook Ads Spread Android Spyware Worldwide
Malvertising Campaign on Meta Expands to Android, Pushing Advanced Crypto-Stealing Malware to Users Worldwide
Many people believe that smartphones are somehow less of a target for threat actors.Bitdefender Labs
Mississippi's age assurance law puts decentralized social networks to the test
Mississippi's age assurance law puts decentralized social networks to the test | TechCrunch
Bluesky says it would block access to its service in the state of Mississippi, rather than comply with the new age verification law.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
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Charlie Kirk: No One Is An American Unless I Say So
Charlie Kirk: No One Is An American Unless I Say So
Guess we're all about to get deported.Robyn Pennacchia (Wonkette)
Nearly 1,000 ‘worker over billionaire’ actions planned for Labor Day in US
Rallies from Alaska to Hawaii will highlight cuts to wages, unions and social safety nets under Trump policies
Nearly 1,000 “worker over billionaire” protests are being planned in all 50 states starting this weekend as part of a Labor Day week of action organized by labor unions and advocacy groups in opposition to the Trump administration’s policies.
The actions include marches and rallies in cities such as Chicago and Los Angeles, a Labor Day parade in New York City, rallies in Palmer, Alaska, Freeport, Maine, and a planned protest at the state capitol in Honolulu, Hawaii.
The protests are organized by the AFL-CIO, the largest federation of labor unions in the US, and dozens of partner organizations, including Public Citizen, Indivisible, Democracy Forward, MoveOn and Patriotic Millionaires.
Two New feeds from CERT-FR integrated in Vulnerability-Lookup
Two New feeds from CERT-FR @cert_frcert_fr@social.numerique.gouv.fr integrated in Vulnerability-Lookup
Thanks to the great of @Rafiot ,we now have two new feeders in Vulnerability-Lookup:
➤ CERT-FR Alerte (vulnerability.circl.lu/recent#…), and
➤ CERT-FR Avis (vulnerability.circl.lu/recent#…)
We were impressed by the excellent quality of these feeds (and the descriptions), which allowed us to automatically extract impacted products (CPE vendors & names) and references to enrich our #Kvrocks indexes (see screenshots).
Correlations
As with all our sources, advisories from CERT-FR are now automatically correlated with the other 27 (!) sources available on the CIRCL instance:
Examples of correlations:
➤ Related CVEs for a product from Ivanti from the “Alerte” CERTFR-2024-ALE-013: vulnerability.circl.lu/vuln/CE…
➤ CVE-2025-9478 - vulnerability in Chrome: vulnerability.circl.lu/vuln/CE…
Sightings
You can already find sightings tied to CERT-FR advisories. For example, the sightings related to alerts published in 2025: vulnerability.circl.lu/sightin…
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Have a source you think should be integrated into Vulnerability-Lookup? Let us know!
It’s fairly easy to add new feeders, as you can see here: github.com/vulnerability-looku…
Don’t hesitate to create an account on our instance: vulnerability.circl.lu/user/si…
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➤ The list of default feeders, active and ready to use in any Vulnerability-Lookup installation: github.com/vulnerability-looku…
➤ Source code of Vulnerability-Lookup: github.com/vulnerability-looku…
➤ News about the project: vulnerability-lookup.org/news/
#CyberSecurity #CERTFR #VulnerabilityLookup #CyberSecurity #CERTFR #cve #advisory #opensource
new: feeders for CERT FR Avis and Alerte · vulnerability-lookup/vulnerability-lookup@b99291f
Vulnerability-Lookup facilitates quick correlation of vulnerabilities from various sources, independent of vulnerability IDs, and streamlines the management of Coordinated Vulnerability Disclosure (CVD).GitHub
Taco Bell rethinks AI drive-through after man orders 18,000 waters
Taco Bell rethinks AI drive-through after man orders 18,000 waters
The fast food chain is reassessing its use of the tech after a number of errors were shared widely online.Shiona McCallum (BBC News)
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- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.youtube.com
Sofia Mayor Vasil Terziev Joins Istanbul Rally Supporting Imprisoned Opposition Mayors
Sofia Mayor Vasil Terziev attended an opposition rally in Istanbul, showing support for the detained mayors of Turkey’s Republican People’s Party (CHP). Terziev was present in his capacity as chairman of the B40 Balkan Cities Network, alongside Jaume Collboni, vice-chairman of the Eurocities Network and mayor of Barcelona. Both joined the guests on the rostrum at the event, held in the center of Istanbul to back imprisoned Istanbul Mayor Ekrem İmamoğlu and other arrested CHP officials.The rally, titled “The People Stand Up for Their Will,” was broadcast live on opposition channels HalkTV, Sozcu, and Cumhuriyet TV. CHP leader Özgür Özel introduced the European guests from the stage, noting that a delegation of ten European mayors and representatives from various cities would engage in discussions throughout the day. The delegation plans to present the “Special Democracy Award” to İmamoğlu, currently held in Silivri prison, and will make statements following meetings with him, including a visit to the Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality.
The delegation, which included four Balkan mayors from Sofia, Bucharest, Athens and Zagreb, intended to meet Imamoglu on Thursday to show their support and present him with a “special democracy award” in prison. But Turkish authorities vetoed the visit, and no official explanation was given for the decision.After being prevented from visiting Imamoglu, the delegation held a press conference in front of the prison, handing the democracy award instead to Imamoglu’s wife, Dilek.
“European mayors are speaking with one voice. We are a force for democratic resistance. We will continue to stand together with our colleague Istanbul mayor Ekrem Imamoglu. His courage in defence of democratic principles inspires us all,” said Barcelona mayor Jaume Collboni, who is also vice-president of Eurocities, an alliance of larger European cities.
Sofia’s mayor, Vasil Terziev, also spoke, expressing the Balkan Cities Network’s support for Imamoglu.
“I stand here as president of the B40 Balkan Cities Network, a network established by Ekrem Imamoglu. The gates and walls of this prison are not only a barrier for one man but also for the will of millions of citizens of Istanbul who elected their mayor,” Terziev said.
He said that Balkan mayors also face judicial pressures and political imprisonment in their own countries. “An attack on a democratically elected mayor is an attack on all democratic institutions regardless of the country. That is why our solidarity with Imamoglu…is a democratic and moral responsibility,” Terziev added.
Apart from Collboni and Terziev, the delegation included Zagreb mayor Tomislav Tomasevic, Athens mayor Haris Doukas, Timisoara Mayor Dominic Fritz, Utrecht mayor Sharon Dijksma, Budapest mayor Gergely Szilveszter Karacsony, Paris deputy mayor Arnaud Ngatcha, Madrid international relations general director Jose Francisco Herrera Antonaya and Eurocities secretary-general Andre Sobczak.
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Turkey Bars Balkan, European Mayors From Visiting Jailed Opposition Leader | Balkan Insight
A delegation of mayors from Europe and the Balkans has been blocked from making a solidarity visit to the jailed opposition mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu.Hamdi Firat Buyuk (BIRN)
After 2 Million AI Orders, Taco Bell Admits Humans Still Belong in the Drive-Thru
Fast food companies have been experimenting with integrating artificial intelligence into their restaurants, from Flippy the burger-flipping robot at White Castle to dynamic pricing at Wendy's. One arena where AI seems to really be struggling, though, is at the drive-thru -- and Taco Bell is the latest to experience AI mishaps at the order box. After taking 2 million orders with AI, Taco Bell has reached one conclusion: we still need humans.
After 2 Million AI Orders, Taco Bell Admits Humans Still Belong in the Drive-Thru
Many wrong orders and 18,000 cups of water later, and Taco Bell is rethinking using AI to take orders.Joe Hindy (CNET)
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South Africa commissions an inequality report for G20 summit
South Africa is commissioning a report on global wealth inequality in time to present at the Group of 20 summit it hosts in November.
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Tesla sales plunge again in Europe as anger at Musk keeps buyers away for 7th month in a row
Europeans upset with Elon Musk still aren’t buying his electric cars, adding to a long losing streak for his company.
https://apnews.com/article/tesla-europe-car-ev-sales-bda33724e56d1b2bc72b9cac0f75fe09
Japan | An AI simulation of a Mount Fuji eruption is being used to prepare Tokyo for the worst
Japanese officials have released AI-generated videos simulating a potential eruption of Mount Fuji. The videos, unveiled this week for Volcanic Disaster Preparedness Day, show smoke and ash affecting Tokyo, about 60 miles away.
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The Global Sumud Flotilla: Over 50 ships will set sail for Gaza
Global Sumud Flotilla aims to break Israel’s illegal blockade on Gaza, to deliver urgent humanitarian aid, and to expose the genocidal war waged on Palestinians.
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Journalists decry escalating state attacks on press freedom in India
The ultra-right-wing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) governments in various provinces in India have used sedition charges against journalists for their critical reporting on policies and actions.
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DC Grand Jury Refuses to Indict Folk Hero Who Tossed Sandwich at CBP Officer
Sean Charles Dunn allegedly threw his sandwich at a Customs and Border Protection agent after calling him a fascist.
ICE Continues to Detain Award-Winning Journalist Who Filmed Immigration Raids
At a court hearing on Wednesday, the judge didn’t rule on Mario Guevara’s petition to be released.
Far Right Exploits Children’s Deaths in Minneapolis to Target Trans People
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has decried those using the tragedy “as an opportunity to villainize our trans community.”
Far Right Exploits Children’s Deaths in Minneapolis to Target Trans People
Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey has decried those using the tragedy “as an opportunity to villainize our trans community.”…Zane McNeill (Truthout)
Kristi Noem waives environmental laws to build Trump's wall through a wildlife refuge
It's not justified, conservationists say. "It’s just incredibly cruel.”
“The most transparent administration in history” refuses to say who’s behind their batshit social media
Government trolls spread cruel memes and "textbook propaganda” on behalf of Trump.
The “Mini-Trump” attacking Lisa Cook had paperwork problems of his own
Bill Pulte has weaponized his office to attack Trump's political enemies.
US | Sept. 11 Victims’ Lawsuit Against Saudi Government Can Go to Trial, Judge Rules
Information uncovered by plaintiffs has already undermined the FBI’s conclusion that two U.S.-based Saudi officials “unwittingly” helped al-Qaida hijackers after they arrived in America.
US | Louisiana Sues Roblox For Violating Privacy Law By Not Violating Privacy Law
How do you comply with a law that prohibits collecting personal information from children under 13? If you said “by not collecting personal information from children under 13,” congratulations, you understand the law better than Louisiana’s Attorney General.
Case file: ag.state.la.us/Files/Article/3…
Louisiana Sues Roblox For Violating Privacy Law By Not Violating Privacy Law
How do you comply with a law that prohibits collecting personal information from children under 13? If you said “by not collecting personal information from children under 13,” congratu…Techdirt
Trump Admin Goes Full McCarthy, Will Decide Whether Migrants Are Pro-USA Enough To Stay Here
This was pretty much inevitable. While the Trump’s band of bigots struggled mightily to expel brown people from this country, the rest of his sycophants are doing everything they can to prevent non-white foreigners from entering the country.
Trump Admin Goes Full McCarthy, Will Decide Whether Migrants Are Pro-USA Enough To Stay Here
This was pretty much inevitable. While the Trump’s band of bigots struggled mightily to expel brown people from this country, the rest of his sycophants are doing everything they can to preve…Techdirt
In a first, US-China team turns plastic waste into petrol in 1 step
New method efficiently converts mixed plastic waste into a product that could have a range of applications, according to scientists.
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Anthropic will start training its AI models on chat transcripts
You can choose to opt out.
Anthropic will start training its AI models on chat transcripts
Anthropic will start training its AI models on user data, including chat transcripts and coding sessions, and extending its data retention policy to five years for active users — unless users choose to opt out.Hayden Field (The Verge)
Bluesky now platform of choice for science community
It’s not just you. Survey says: “Twitter sucks now and all the cool kids are moving to Bluesky”
Bluesky now platform of choice for science community
It’s not just you. Survey says: “Twitter sucks now and all the cool kids are moving to Bluesky”…Jennifer Ouellette (Ars Technica)
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •HilichurlJack
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Up to you. I'm comfortable with:
- buying smaller or indie games
- subscribing to lesser known / low profile / niche content creators
- pirating anything old, hard to buy, or incredibly popular (like people who make 100k+ per month on Patreon)
- avoiding AAA games altogether, with rare exceptions (those I usually buy, or they are F2P)
I'm also comfortable with pirating some content first and later buying/subscribing if I see I keep enjoying the content.
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •Regardless of what conclusion you develop, some things are always morally acceptable to pirate. For example, Metallica.
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On a serious note, IP is a made up concept. Pirate away.
cecilkorik
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Support the creators who deserve support. Otherwise you will end up with nothing good to pirate, because all the creators who deserved support and made your favourite creations, starved to death (or got other jobs, effectively the same thing)
Your single act of piracy is not likely to make a difference either way, but on the other hand, your single act might indeed be the straw that breaks one particular camel's back. And collectively we have to take some responsibility for that. It's not even just about ethics (although it is ALSO about ethics), it's about self-interest. You can be an individual freerider if you want, but eventually the freeriders overwhelm the system and it shuts down.
Realistically there will always be plenty, plenty of games to pirate. But the key question is, will enough of those be good games, the really enjoyable ones that you want to play? The AAA slop and rehashes will never stop, oh they''ll churn and froth and lay people off and blame pirates but they're effectively self-sustaining, it takes money to make money and it takes money to lose money and there's enough money in the system to keep them churning out sequels and derivative "new IP" until the heath death of the universe. There will always be some good games to pirate and to play no matter what you do, no matter what we all do.
But it's not a binary condition whether our financial support or piracy matters. You vote with your dollars. Your dollars guide the AAA studios in their desperate chase to steal the dollars from us, and your dollars literally enable indie developers to continue their projects at all. If too many people are not rewarding the kinds of novel and well-made games they want to see from AAA studios, and not supporting people's passion projects that they've poured years of their lives into, you're not going to see as many novel and well-made games or passion projects like that happening, and odds are good that at least one of the ones you won't see happening will be one you really would have enjoyed.
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •I pirate what's any good that I cannot find legally for streaming, as well as educational stuff that I want available should I and/or my family find ourselves without internet access.
Sometimes I'll go so far as to pirate things that I cannot find without ads(even with premiums*), but mostly if it'll let me see the first few minutes before playing an ad, I just live with it.
* The only reason I still have Amazon Prime is for the free shipping. I pay extra for no ads. I pay extra for HiDive. There appear to be things available on Prime with HiDive that aren't available on just Prime or just HiDive. Magically, those shows(Ranma 1/2, for example) have ads. WTF?
None of these companies have ethics. Why should you get hung-up in ethics for a victimless crime?
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in reply to MachineFab812 • • •Hey, trust me on this one -- if you've got Amazon Prime mainly for the free shipping, consider dropping Prime & lumping your purchases together in orders of $35 or more to get free shipping.
Yes, the shipping is slower. Which is also more environmentally friendly & easier to fulfill, while also free.
You can save cheap knick knacks in a list to fluff up cheap orders. Mine involves Ti keyrings, I'll link later. You can always use more quality keyrings.
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in reply to CoffeeJunkie • • •Two of my kids are working-age with their own debit cards, and have their amazon accounts linked to mine. My MIL's credit card is attached to my account, so anything she wants to order, she just sends me a link. My wife just straight-up has all my logins when it comes to spending money.
... All that, and paying for it once is easier to explain/deal with versus every order having to be >$35 . It's a pain to get my wife to actually order things she wants/needs as it is.
Basically, I would rather stop dealing with that company entirely, for ethical reasons, than put more thought into my dealings with them with each transaction.
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •No.
The system is literally genociding people, destroying the planet, etc. It's a major mistake to take their "ethics" seriously. It's just another grift. Enjoy the natural freedom of information while you still can.
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in reply to mogranja • • •Where is the threshold between supporting "the little guy" to "supporting evil capitalism"? At some point the little guy you support with money might become a super star. You still like his art but would you still support?
I do the same btw but this question creates cognitive dissonance in my small tiny brain.
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in reply to deczzz • • •The difference is how much money they're making and how they're spending it.
For pretty much all creators bitching about not getting paid enough, it's so they can live lavish lifestyles without having to think about what they spend their money on.
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •pirate whatever you want, but just know that you're not voting with your dollar if you don't put your dollars anywhere.
it's really hard to make a living with a passion project these days.
you could buy music. and ethical/indie shit. books. things that you actually care about existing. or not, i guess. whatever
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •You can be the judge of that.
First of all: Decide a code of ethics for yourself.
(Piracy is equivalent to going to a book store and taking pictures of the books as you flip through pages. Ask yourself: Is this ethical?)
And if that's okay for you, then:
Second: If action is unlawful, weigh in on potential consequences and then ask yourself if you want to risk the consequences.
Piracy is not murder, cops would probably be too lazy to investigate.
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •Freely pirate everything without guilt. If you use torrent then seed how much you can. It will help your fellow human beings.
BUT if/when you have money to spare invest them into creators/art that bring you something. It seems antithetical because they taught us real art should be free from capitalism's shackles yadda yadda, but art and artists needs money to flourish. Find indie artists and wacky projects and fund them.
Cat_Daddy [any, any]
in reply to ganamasawa • • •This is an excellent point and it bears repeating. Indie artists deserve to eat, and unfortunately we're currently stuck in a capitalist hell hole. So until that system is demolished, throw them some coin for their work.
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in reply to Cat_Daddy [any, any] • • •Joining an org was not what I meant, even though it's definitely a good thing, and I agree.
My point was more about, yes, indie artists deserve to eat, but paying them in a capitalistic fashion, likely through a payment processor, a subscription/donation platform, and whatever other intermediaries, might be a "feel-good" sentiment, but if you're serious about demolishing the system, should not be done.
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in reply to ushmel • • •Yeah, same here. I haven't pirated games since I was a broke university student. There's simply no need to when digital storefronts make it easy to get the games I want in the format I want. Some even offer DRM-free offline backups, or in the case of Steam the games stay in my library even if the publisher decides to remove the title from the Steam storefront.
TV and movies are completely different from this, and so much worse. So many different streaming services, some with intrusive ads, and every one wanting their own monthly subscription. I shouldn't need to search "where is X streaming." Ever. Titles disappear from these services all the time. Even if you "buy" a digital movie or show, the rights holder can yank it back from you because... reasons?
TV and movie distribution is such a garbage deal for consumers that open source developers have created a complete software stack (the servarr stack) to automate the process of finding and downloading media. Once you get it set up, it's about million times more convenient than corporate streaming services.
TL;DR: Getting digital games is easy and feels like a fair deal for the average consumer. Getting movies and TV shows is a pain in the ass and feels like an absolute shit deal for the consumer. I'll continue to pirate movies and TV shows because as Gabe Newell famously argued, piracy indicates a service problem.
Sivilian
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Krauerking
in reply to Sivilian • • •Yeah, we find a way around or say fuck it cause its not worth the interaction with a company so messed up.
Life is a lot of making the best options you can based in your morals and hopefully someone gave you some good ones.
bitwolf
in reply to somerandomperson • • •IMO if you cannot get it in a format that's appropriate it's warranted.
For example ebooks that only come with drm so you can't add it as an epub to your ereader.
I usually buy the book and then acquire the epub
Endymion_Mallorn
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •verdigris
in reply to somerandomperson • • •You should only feel bad about pirating art made by small independent artists, and even then only if you don't have the disposable income to easily afford it.
Piracy is an actually victimless crime, you aren't depriving anyone of anything except your hypothetical dollars. And that's only a loss if you were going to spend them in the first place. Then add the fact that selling digital goods at all is basically a massive scam...
Also, in many cases it's actually better for the artist to donate directly to them than to buy their products from a store that's probably taking a cut.
mathemachristian [he/him]
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Kissaki
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Mordikan
in reply to somerandomperson • • •If you would not have paid for it either way (even if that were the only option) and you haven't caused them a loss of revenue by pirating it, did you impact the creator at all?
The counter to this is always that just because someone wouldn’t pay doesn’t mean the creator’s work has no value.
To that I would yes that is completely true. The creator's work has value, but maybe not monetary value.
You can't always conflate value to money (ex. FOSS, canonical sci-fi lore, protest symbols, etc).
There is also a morality component used against my argument that would say I'm ignoring the intent, consent, and ownership the creator has.
Its usually worded that I'm using outcome-based morality and that the ends always justifies the means by that logic.
But I pay for X, not for access to use X.
If the creator can opt without my consent to remove X from me, I'm not longer obligated to follow that moral constraint. Morality is a two-way street.
outhouseperilous
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Everything.
Like, i pay screenwriters by bringing them lunch while they collect cans around town and actors by tipping on lunch, but you, by paying at a movie theatre, generally do not.
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алсааас [she/they]
in reply to somerandomperson • • •When it comes to music I try to buy the stuff I like (mostly flacs) on bandcamp Fridays (certain days of the year where bandcamp charges 0% fees from the creators).
If it's indie/small/mid-sized creator I'd like to see more of. They also sell vinyl and other merch which is rly cool
Steve Dice
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •Fr tho basically what /u/AnimalsDream said
DeathByBigSad
in reply to whats_all_this_then • • •Appoxo
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •rozodru
in reply to somerandomperson • • •it depends.
I'm old enough to remember when PC demos were a thing and essentially if a demo didn't exist, the game likely wouldn't sell well. Hell there used to be entire websites that ONLY had demos for download of upcoming releases. So now game companies don't do demos anymore, I pirate the games as a demo. If it's something I think I'll play through and come back to in a month or two or even a year then I'll buy it. If it's an indie dev I'll buy it because I want to support them.
If it's something I'm no likely to finish or will finish and never pick it up again, high seas.
Music is different. I just soulseek everything. I'm not paying some crappy streaming service to then provide pennies to the artist. I can support artists I like via other means. Merch sales, going to concerts, etc that's where they get their money.
TV and movies? fuck em. I'm not paying for that crap when 9 times out of 10 something that I like is just going to get cancelled after 2 seasons. They don't need my money.
Books? nope, always pay for those.
Sauerkraut
in reply to rozodru • • •Ethics are very important to me so I say always support worker owned companies/ small indie teams, always support books, but never support evil mega corps like Amazon, Disney, EA, Activision, etc.
Also, any company that has donated to the Republican neo-fascist party? Fuck them. If you wouldn't give money to Putin then you should never ever give money to anyone who will give that money to Putin's puppets (conservatives)
mic_check_one_two
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in reply to somerandomperson • • •willington
in reply to HakunaHafada • • •Bias is inevitable.
It makes no sense to work to eliminate it.
It's like trying to breed a new species of humans that are void of preferences. An impossible task. If such a breeding process somehow succeded, the resulting product would not be a human anyway.
If anyone claims to be unbiased themselves, or claims freedom from bias for someone else, even just implying that someone somewhere is unbiased, I immediately know bullshit is afoot. Such claims are not always knowingly malicious, but are always detrimental to my interests should I start foolishly believing them.
Krauerking
in reply to somerandomperson • • •And
Are 2 thoughts im completely fine with holding in my head.
Bakkoda
in reply to Krauerking • • •puppinstuff
in reply to somerandomperson • • •AceFuzzLord
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Personally, I think it depends. For me, I like to pirate games that there's no way for me to legally buy a copy of and if possible are way too overpriced. Think multi hundred dollar retro games.
For media, I would absolutely support buying used media second hand. New physical releases tend to be worse than they were in the past in my opinion, so second hand or piracy feels like a good enough deal to me.
For music, I'd rather have physical CDs, if possible, rather than paying for streaming because I at least either support a local business I like to go to for CDs or support the artist directly. Laws be damned, I'd rather pirate music than give my money to the companies who financially abuse artists. Similar reason why almost all my CDs are second hand.
For stuff I have legally purchased, if need be I can just pirate them if it's a digital product. Otherwise I can back up disc based media I have. No idea how to do it for the Sega Genesis cartridges I have, though, so if need be I can pirate those as well.
Edit:
For games, I pirate games I don't own. For digital games I could find on Steam, I use it as a sort of demo for the game because majority of games don't have a demo and I need one to ensure I'm not throwing my money down the drain.
There have been plenty of games I've bought because the "demo" was enough to make me wanna buy the game to support the devs. Latest example being Dungeon Clawlers.
CaptainBasculin
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Seefra 1
in reply to somerandomperson • • •From my personal ethics standpoint, intellectual property is a form of private property which I'm against, also a form or artificial scarcity, which I'm also against.
If you want to support a small artist? You can maybe donate to them directly? Is that a thing? Maybe they have a patreon or something? In my case I have way less money than the artists I consume from so donating would make no sense.
Also, the act of making a copy doesn't remove the original, the artist doesn't get poorer because you pirate their content.
lunsjentilanette
in reply to somerandomperson • • •I generally make sure to spend my money one contemporary artists or authors (who are not already filthy rich, if they are already super well-off i dont contribute to increasing that wealth and instead buy something else) and try to maxmize the amount of money that falls to them. You could also find ways to donate directly to these artists and then pirate their stuff to your hearts content (from my ethical point of view anwyay, law will not agree with me). Ive also first pirated stuff and then bought it later and just replaced the files on my media server.
I dont really care about big corporations or some random rights holder long after someones death. So any big studio movie or old rock bands get pirated.
mr_right
in reply to somerandomperson • • •do whatever you like nobody cares (no offense)
No need to make everything complicated
rumba
in reply to somerandomperson • • •You do you.
I try to stick to Indy games and pay for them. I have d+ nf Hulu atv and cable with all channels that aren't premium. I keep copies of any series/movies I like. If they lose the license or drop anything I'm not losing it. VCR rules, I paid to play it, I can record it/torrent to get it.
Stuff that's not on the air anymore, of I can't stream it paying that much, also not gonna feel bad about torrenting.
Qwest network had a commercial in 99.
Guy pulls up to a dirty motel in the middle of nowhere
“What kind of rooms you got?” “King size.”
“You got room service?” “Donuts and coffee.”
“Got entertainment?”
“All rooms have every movie ever made in any language, anytime, day or night.”
By now we should have that for a couple hundred a month. Definitely for less than I'm paying for all those services. Wanna put a limit on that? Everything over 6 months old is on it. But there's no reason outside of massive greed to get to the state of fracture where at with service provision.
I have apple Music and Spotify, I'm also keeping copies of music.
Books are a mix, I pay for new audiobooks from authors I like, I buy hardback for newish stuff I really like,
Old stuff, classics, textbooks, stuff with the rights going to an estate I pirate.
More or less, I want to pay a reasonable price that I can bear to make sure my authors in studios actors keep making new stuff. If the fat cats eat it all, I'm not giving them more.
bastion
in reply to somerandomperson • • •I like to think about ethics. I still pirate some random stuff here and there, but one thing I like to do is make sure I'm getting some money to the creators of what I'm enjoying, skipping the middle man as much as can be.
this is mostly only relevant with music, but if I can buy an album or song directly from the artist, that's awesome. it not, i try to five what service benefits them most.
Durian
in reply to somerandomperson • • •humanoidchaos
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Everything.
Piracy is a tool to help reduce the disparity in wealth.
The only time you should buy something that you could pirate is if you can't find it and you plan on sharing it with everyone else. I call this "taking one for the team."
sunzu2
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Pirate what you need unless you are one of them archiver preppers.
This ain't about "legality" this is about fighting the class war against owner class.
wolfeh
in reply to somerandomperson • • •vala
in reply to wolfeh • • •Piracy isn't stealing regardless.
Stealing is to deprive someone of something they posses.
It's not possible to possess something that doesn't exist yet. Your copy doesn't exist until you make it (by downloading the file).
If you chose to not support creators by paying to copy thier work, that's maybe unethical but it's not stealing.
If you hack into a Sony server and copy an unreleased film, then delete their copy, that is maybe stealing. Anything short of that is just copying.
vala
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