4chan refuses to pay UK Online Safety Act fines, asks Trump admin to intervene
4chan refuses to pay UK Online Safety Act fines, asks Trump admin to intervene
4chan asks US to “invoke all legal levers” in fight against Online Safety Act.Jon Brodkin (Ars Technica)
Cornell's world-first 'microwave brain' computes differently
Cornell's world-first 'microwave brain' computes differently
Researchers at Cornell University have developed an electronic chip that they describe as a "microwave brain." The simplified chip is analog rather than digital, yet can process ultrafast data and wireless communication signals simultaneously.David Szondy (New Atlas)
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South Korea bans phones in school classrooms nationwide
South Korea bans phones in school classrooms nationwide
It is the latest country to restrict phone use among children and teens.Suhnwook Lee (BBC News)
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Indian Court orders Internet block of Sci-Hub, Sci-Net and Libgen after publisher request
The Delhi High Court ordered the blocking of Sci-Hub, Sci-Net, and LibGen in India on August 19, 2025, following a copyright infringement case brought by academic publishers Elsevier, Wiley, and the American Chemical Society12.
The court found that Alexandra Elbakyan, Sci-Hub's founder, violated her December 2020 undertaking not to upload new copyrighted content by making post-2022 articles available through both Sci-Hub and a new platform called Sci-Net2. While Elbakyan claimed this was due to technical errors and argued Sci-Net was a separate project, the court rejected these arguments2.
The ruling requires India's Department of Telecommunications and Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology to issue blocking orders within 72 hours, with Internet Service Providers required to implement the blocks within 24 hours2.
This case marks the first time Sci-Hub and LibGen faced legal action in a developing country3. Earlier intervention attempts by Indian scientists and researchers had argued these platforms were "the only access to educational and research materials" for many academics in India3, with social science researchers specifically highlighting the "detrimental effect" blocking would have on research in India4.
- Substack - GPT-4o about Sci-hub: The Delhi High Court's latest order ↩︎
- SpicyIP - Sci-Hub now Completely Blocked in India! ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎ ↩︎
- InfoJustice - Update on Publisher's Copyright Infringement Suit Against Sci-Hub ↩︎ ↩︎
- Internet Freedom Foundation - Social Science researchers move Delhi High Court ↩︎
Social Science researchers move Delhi High Court to protect LibGen & SciHub
A group of social science researchers have filed an intervention application, with legal support from IFF, highlighting the adverse impact any decision to block LibGen and SciHub will have on them.Tanmay Singh (Internet Freedom Foundation)
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A survey of 1,047 US college students on GenAI: 55% use the tech for brainstorming ideas, 18% now question the value of college more than they used to, and more.
Key findings
- Most students are using generative AI for coursework, but many are doing so in ways that can support, not outsource, their learning.
- Performance pressures, among other factors, are driving cheating.
- Nearly all students want action on academic integrity, but most reject policing.
- Students have mixed views on faculty use of generative AI for teaching.
- Generative AI is influencing students’ learning and critical thinking abilities.
- Students want information and support in preparing for a world shaped by AI.
- On the whole, generative AI isn’t devaluing college for students—and it’s increasing its value for some.
Survey: College Students’ Views on AI
Key findings from Inside Higher Ed’s student survey on generative AI show that using the evolving technology hasn’t diminished the value of college in their view, but it could affect their critical thinking skills.Colleen Flaherty (Inside Higher Ed | Higher Education News, Events and Jobs)
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September 1925
Our look at some of the significant happenings 100 years ago this month.
3. The Second International Conference on the Standardization of Medicine was held in Geneva, with the goal of standardizing drug formulae worldwide.
7. Born. Laura Ashley, Welsh designer (d.1985)
13. Born. Mel Tormé, jazz singer, in Chicago (d.1999)
16. Born. Charles Haughey, Taoiseach of Ireland; in Castlebar (d.2006)
A survey of 1,047 US college students on GenAI: 55% use the tech for brainstorming ideas, 18% now question the value of college more than they used to, and more.
Key findings
- Most students are using generative AI for coursework, but many are doing so in ways that can support, not outsource, their learning.
- Performance pressures, among other factors, are driving cheating.
- Nearly all students want action on academic integrity, but most reject policing.
- Students have mixed views on faculty use of generative AI for teaching.
- Generative AI is influencing students’ learning and critical thinking abilities.
- Students want information and support in preparing for a world shaped by AI.
- On the whole, generative AI isn’t devaluing college for students—and it’s increasing its value for some.
Survey: College Students’ Views on AI
Key findings from Inside Higher Ed’s student survey on generative AI show that using the evolving technology hasn’t diminished the value of college in their view, but it could affect their critical thinking skills.Colleen Flaherty (Inside Higher Ed | Higher Education News, Events and Jobs)
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Three years of building no-code software for grassroots political organizations
Three years of building no-code software for grassroots political organizations
What is no-code? No-code is primarily a type of software that allows you to create more software, customized for your needs, starting fro...Conjure Utopia
The promise of Rust
The promise of Rust
The part that makes Rust scary is the part that makes it unique. And it’s also what I miss in other programming languages — let me explain! Rust syntax starts simple. This function prints a number:...fasterthanli.me
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End of 10: Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, 2025.
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36679745
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If you bought your computer after 2010, there's most likely no reason to throw it out. By just installing an up-to-date Linux operating system you can keep using it for years to come.I will pin this post till the end of October, due to the importance of this.
End of 10: Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, 2025.
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If you bought your computer after 2010, there's most likely no reason to throw it out. By just installing an up-to-date Linux operating system you can keep using it for years to come.I will pin this post till the end of October, due to the importance of this.
End of 10: Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, 2025.
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If you bought your computer after 2010, there's most likely no reason to throw it out. By just installing an up-to-date Linux operating system you can keep using it for years to come.I will pin this post till the end of October, due to the importance of this.
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End of 10: Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, 2025.
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Why “caffè” may not be “caffè”
Every time when I think I finally “got” Unicode, I get kicked in the back by this rabbit hole. 😆 However, IMHO it is important to recognise that when moving data and files between operating systems and programs that you’re better off knowing some of the pitfalls. So I’m sharing something I experienced when I transferred a file to my FreeBSD Play-Around notebook. So let’s assume a little story…
It’s late afternoon and you and some friends sit together playing around with BSD. A friend using another operating system collects coffee orders in a little text file to not forget anyone when going to the barista on the other side of the street. He sends the file to you, so at the next meeting you already know the preferences of your friends. You take a look at who wants a caffè:
armin@freebsd:/tmp $ cat orders2.txtMauro: cappuccinoArmin: caffè doppioAnna: caffè shakeratoStefano: caffèFranz: latte macchiatoFrancesca: cappuccinoCarla: latte macchiato
So you do a quick grep just to be very surprised!
armin@freebsd:/tmp $ grep -i caffè orders2.txtarmin@freebsd:/tmp $
Wait, WAT? Why is there no output? We have more than one line with caffè
in the file? Well, you just met one of the many aspects of Unicode. This time it’s called “normalization”. 😎
Many characters can be represented by more than one form. Take the innocent “à
” from the example above. There is an accented character in the Unicode characters called LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE. But you could also just use a regular LATIN SMALL LETTER A and combine it with the character COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT from the Unicode characters. Both result in the same character and “look” identical, but aren’t.
Let’s see a line with the word “caffè” as hex dump using the first approach (LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE):
\u0063\u0061\u0066\u0066\u00E8\u000Ac a f f è (LF)
Now let’s do the same for the same line using the second approach:
\u0063\u0061\u0066\u0066\u0065\u0300\u000Ac a f f è (LF)
And there you have it, the latter is a byte longer and the two lines do not match up even if both lines are encoded as UTF-8 and the character looks the same!
So obviously just using UTF-8 is not enough and you might encounter files using the second approach. Just to make matter more complicated there are actually four forms of Unicode normalization out there. 😆
- NFD: canonical decomposition
- NFC: canonical decomposition followed by canonical composition
- NFKD: compatible decomposition
- NFKC: compatible decomposition followed by canonical composition.
For the sake of brevity of this post and your nerves we’ll just deal with the first two and I refer you to this Wikipedia article for the rest.
Normal form C (NFC) is the most widely used normal form and is also defined by the W3C for HTML, XML, and JavaScript. Technically speaking, encoding in Latin1 (or Windows Codepage 1252), for example, is in normal form C, since an “à” or the umlaut “Ö” is a single character and is not composed of combining characters. Windows and the .Net framework also store Unicode strings in Normal Form C. This does not mean that NFD can be ignored. For example, the Mac OSX file system works with a variant of NFD data, as the Unicode standard was only finalized when OSX was designed. When two applications share Unicode data, but normalize them differently, errors and data loss can result.
So how do we get from one form to another in one of the BSD operating systems (also in Linux)? Well, the Unicode Consortium provides a toolset called ICU — International Components for Unicode. The Documentation URL is unicode-org.github.io/icu/ and you can install that in FreeBSD using the command
pkg install icu
After completion of the installation you have a new command line tool called uconv
(not to be mismatched with iconv
which serves a similar purpose). Using uconv
you can transcode the normal forms into each other as well do a lot of other encoding stuff (this tool is a rabbit hole in itself 😎).
Similar to iconv
you can specify a “from” and a “to” encoding for input. But you can also specify so-called “transliterations” that will be applied to the input. In its simplest form such a transliteration is something in the form SOURCE-TARGET that specifies the operation. The "any"
stands for any input character. This is the way I got the hexdump from above by using the transliteration 'any-hex'
:
armin@freebsd:/tmp$ echo caffè | uconv -x 'any-hex'\u0063\u0061\u0066\u0066\u00E8\u000A
Instead of hex codes you can also output the Unicode code point names to see the difference between the two forms:
armin@freebsd:/tmp$ echo Caffè | uconv -f utf-8 -t utf-8 -x 'any-nfd' | uconv -f utf-8 -x 'any-name' \N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER A}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER F}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER F}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER E}\N{COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT}\N{<control-000A>}
Now let’s try this for the NFC form:
armin@freebsd:/tmp$ echo Caffè | uconv -f utf-8 -t utf-8 -x 'any-nfc' | uconv -f utf-8 -x 'any-name'\N{LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER A}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER F}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER F}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH GRAVE}\N{<control-000A>}
You can also convert from one normal form to another by using a transliteration like 'any-nfd'
to convert the input to the normal form D (for decomposed, e.g. LATIN SMALL CHARACTER A + COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT) or 'any-nfc'
for the normal form C.
If you want to learn about building your own transliterations, there’s a tutorial at unicode-org.github.io/icu/user… that shows the enormous capabilities of uconv
.
Using the 'name'
transliteration you can easily discern the various Sigmas here (I’m using sed
to split the output into multiple lines):
armin@freebsd:/tmp $ echo '∑𝛴Σ' | uconv -x 'any-name' | sed -e 's/\\N/\n/g'{N-ARY SUMMATION}{MATHEMATICAL ITALIC CAPITAL SIGMA}{GREEK CAPITAL LETTER SIGMA}{<control-000A>}
If you want to get the Unicode character from the name, there are several ways depending on the programming language you prefer. Here is an example using python that shows the German umlaut "Ö"
:
python -c 'import unicodedata; print(unicodedata.lookup(u"LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS"))'
The uconv
utility is a very mighty thing and every modern programming language (see the Python example above) also has libraries and modules to support handling Unicode data. The world gets connected, but not in ASCII. 😎
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US poll finds 60 percent of Gen Z voters back Hamas over Israel in Gaza war
US poll finds 60 percent of Gen Z voters back Hamas over Israel in Gaza war
A new survey has revealed a sharp generational split in United States attitudes towards Israel’s war on Gaza, with younger voters showing unprecedented support for Hamas as Israel carries out a genocide.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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Chatbots can be manipulated through flattery and peer pressure
Researchers convinced ChatGPT to do things it normally wouldn’t with basic psychology.
Chatbots can be manipulated through flattery and peer pressure
Researchers were able to manipulate ChatGPT into breaking its own rules through peer pressure and flattery.Terrence O'Brien (The Verge)
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Traffic to government domains often crosses national borders, or flows through risky bottlenecks
Sites at yourcountry.gov may also not bother with HTTPs
Traffic to government domains often crosses national borders, or flows through risky bottlenecks
: Sites at yourcountry.gov may also not bother with HTTPsSimon Sharwood (The Register)
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Chrome increases its overwhelming market share, now over 70%
No matter how hard other browsers try, people stubbornly do not want to leave Chrome, and its market share is now above 70%.
https://www.neowin.net/news/chrome-increases-its-overwhelming-market-share-now-over-70/
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US reportedly suspends visa approvals for nearly all Palestinian passport holders
Restrictions to prevent travel for healthcare and college and come after denying visas to Palestinian Authority leaders
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Flotilla with Greta Thunberg on board sets sail for Gaza
Hundreds of activists are aboard the Global Sumud Flotilla with the intention to bring humanitarian aid to Gaza.
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Chinese eSports firm worked with AMD on 1,000 Hz gaming monitor primed for 2026 debut
Yes, it uses a TN panel, but local dimming technology and Black Frame Insertion should enhance visuals.
Connecticut Man's Case Believed to Be First Murder-Suicide Associated With AI Psychosis
Several suicides have been blamed on AI. This appears to be the first homicide.
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Thousands of Tesla SUVs recalled in Australia over software fault that ‘can increase risk of injury’
All 2025 Tesla Model Y variants affected by issue that risks window closing on body parts ‘with excessive force’
Trust Issues
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comic with 4 panels in a 2x2 grid. The same character says Trust issues? Of course I have trust issues! You see, I've been working with CSS for a while already... (over a dark gray background) ...And, in CSS, this is gray...comicss.art
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[Opinion] How the IDF Central Command chief enables war crimes in the West Bank
If the situation were normal, someone appointed as head of the Israeli army's Central Command – which includes occupied territory in which 3.5 million Palestinians and 520,000 Israeli Jews live – would presumably have begun his term by meeting with the mayors of Palestinian cities and villages.
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Poland, Baltic, Nordic States urge new EU funds for border security
Facing escalating drone incursions and hybrid threats, five EU border states are demanding fresh Commission funding to boost aerial defences and protect civilians
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At least 250 killed in 6.0-magnitude earthquake in Afghanistan
Hundreds of other people were injured in the quake, which struck Jalalabad near the border with Pakistan.
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At least 250 killed in 6.0-magnitude earthquake in Afghanistan
At least 250 people have been killed and over 500 injured in Afghanistan after a 6.0-magnitude earthquake hit the country on Monday, Taliban officials said.Mushtaq Yusufzai (NBC News)
Australian report raises concerns over age-verification software ahead of teen social ban
There was high accuracy for those over 19, but not for those up to three years on either side of the limit.
Australian report raises concerns over age-verification software ahead of teen social ban
There was high accuracy for those over 19, but not for those up to three years on either side of the limit. Read more at straitstimes.com.ST
The deadly toll on journalists in the Gaza war
With foreign media barred, Palestinians have reported alone, facing the ‘most deliberate effort to kill and silence’ them ever
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Australia | Man arrested after allegedly ramming car through front gates of Russian consulate in Sydney
Police called to Woollahra following reports of ‘unauthorised vehicle’ parked in driveway, with 39-year-old then crashing through gates, police allege
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Steam users in the UK will need a credit card to access “mature content” games
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Steam is now complying with the Online Safety Act
Steam users in the UK will need a credit card to access ‘mature content’ games
Valve has started rolling out age verification checks for Steam users in the UK. Brits will need a credit card on their Steam account to access mature games.Tom Warren (The Verge)
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That is actually a relatively mild solution that makes the age verification almost bearable...
...which is terrible, because age verification as a whole is a terrible concept. Would have been nice if a big player like Steam is working against it, but I also never expected they would, they are commercial after all.
English councils pay private landlords millions in incentives to house homeless families
Exclusive: Data gathered by Generation Rent shows 37 councils spent £31m in 2024-25 in one-off payments to individual landlords
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[Patch Notes] 0.3.0 Hotfix 12
0.3.0 Hotfix 12
- Made adjustments to the Azmadi, the Faridun Prince fight:
- Slightly increased cooldown of most of his skills.
- Decreased the damage of most of his skills.
- Fixed not being able to Dodge Roll through his lacerate attacks.
- Fixed a bug where Skeletal Warriors could incorrectly be created without reserving Spirit.
Early Access Patch Notes - 0.3.0 Hotfix 12 - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
[Patch Notes] 0.3.0 Hotfix 11
0.3.0 Hotfix 11
- Killing the bosses in The Khari Crossing no longer turns off the entrance to Skullmaw Stairway.
- Fixed the Derelict Mansion bosses sometimes failing to drop loot and open the arena doors.
- Fixed achievement count icons incorrectly displaying in the chat, since there's currently no achievement list.
- Fixed a client crash that could occur when using the Tempest Bell Skill.
- Fixed 2 instance crashes.
Early Access Patch Notes - 0.3.0 Hotfix 11 - Forum - Path of Exile
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[Patch Notes] 0.3.0 Hotfix 10
0.3.0 Hotfix 10
- Fixed a bug where Zolin would grant you Breach Atlas Passive Skill Books for defeating the King of the Mists, instead of from defeating Xesht.
- Fixed a client crash when displaying a character with the Merit of Service Unique Shield equipped.
- Fixed 3 instance crashes.
This patch has been deployed without restarting the servers, you will need to restart your client to receive the client fixes.
Early Access Patch Notes - 0.3.0 Hotfix 10 - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
[Announcement] Introducing the Third Edict Mystery Box
We've just released the Third Edict Mystery Box, a new mystery box without duplicate microtransactions! Many of these microtransactions have a varying number of thematic variations. Check out the contents of the box below!
Video: What's in the The Third Edict Mystery Box?
Please note that currently the Third Edict Mystery Box is available only in Path of Exile 2.
There are 56 microtransactions (including variations) that you can find in The Third Edict Mystery Box. Many of these microtransactions have a varying number of thematic variations, and you'll never receive a duplicate copy of a variation that you have already opened. For example, if you open one variant of a microtransaction, you may later receive another variant, but you'll never get a duplicate! Check out the full details at pathofexile2.com/mysterybox
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CriticalMiss
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in reply to CriticalMiss • • •wewbull
in reply to 0x0 • • •Go 4chan!
Not often I get to say that, but this is one case.
katy ✨
in reply to wewbull • • •SorryQuick
in reply to katy ✨ • • •chunes
in reply to 0x0 • • •stoly
in reply to chunes • • •CoffeeTails
in reply to stoly • • •deathbird
in reply to stoly • • •I'm not sure I like the idea that you're "offering a service" in a country simply by being a data service that can accessed from it.
Someone from Australia can call me and we can chat. It doesn't mean I or my phone carrier are offering a service in Australia.
x00z
in reply to deathbird • • •Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In
in reply to deathbird • • •Whoever is providing the communications infrastructure to the Australian caller would be offering a service in Australia (5g masts, fibre, customer service etc.)
Only if the call is going via satellite owned by non-Australians could you avoid this.
dreadbeef
in reply to stoly • • •My website is my website. You visit my website, my website does not visit you. My website is public, you choose to enter it. You visit my website through your infrastructure to get to my infrastructure. My infrastructure is publicly available to you, should you be able to access it.
The governing body of your (second person, not you specifically) infrastructure (the UK government) chooses to impose rules on my actions. Their threat is "we'll stop letting people in our infrastructure from being able to reach your infrastructure."
That is extortion, not working in the public's favor. The UK government is saying they'll block all roads from your house that lead to my website outside of the UK. My website is overseas, brother. The UK is blocking all the ports so you can't sail here. I don't "offer services" to you in the UK, I just don't prevent people from the UK from trying to reach my island. Nothing about my services requires the UK infrastructure. My services keep operating whether the UK government exists or not. How do they have any right over my infrastructure in this scenario?
If this is about ads, the UK has all the right to remove my ads from their country. That is within their right. Anything about blocking people from the UK is within their right, sure, but that's not my problem lol. Sorry you have a shit government lol
Hal-5700X
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in reply to Hal-5700X • • •Part4
in reply to Hal-5700X • • •HereIAm
in reply to Part4 • • •Part4
in reply to HereIAm • • •HereIAm
in reply to Part4 • • •Silinde
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in reply to Silinde • • •Treczoks
in reply to 0x0 • • •sleen
in reply to Treczoks • • •Treczoks
in reply to sleen • • •Properly dealing with hate crimes is different from controlling the internet more or less in general.
Let the internet be free, but also keep it free from hate.
dreadbeef
in reply to Treczoks • • •nandeEbisu
in reply to 0x0 • • •Calling 4chan the most hateful site on the Internet ignores the fact that xitter is a thing.
The kind of hateful rhetoric and grooming are not unique to 4chan, they happen on Facebook, discord, and roblox. 4chan has just been a minimally filtered representation of underground online cultures for decades now meaning it's still just as much a font of creativity as it is a cesspool of internet refuse.
IcyToes
in reply to nandeEbisu • • •Just because you're comfortable with racial and homophobic slurs in most posts, doesn't mean it's not hateful.
I detest Elon and xitter as much as anyone, but there is zero comparison. If anything, it just shows how far you've gone.
tigeruppercut
in reply to IcyToes • • •IcyToes
in reply to tigeruppercut • • •tigeruppercut
in reply to IcyToes • • •IcyToes
in reply to tigeruppercut • • •No. I'm making it clear equating the 2 ain't right. It looks like you're trying to defend and normalise 4chan.
To try and say, "yeah, there is racial slurs, but it's great for culture" is trying to justify unacceptable views.
To be fully explicit, xitter sucks and you shouldn't use that either.
ZILtoid1991
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in reply to Ensign_Crab • • •dogs0n
in reply to 0x0 • • •I hope this encourages more companies/sites to fight back against stupid laws. If most keep complying, it'll only get worse for them in the future when they make even worse laws.
Pull out all UK servers and ignore uk fines (assuming thats legal wherever u reside... idk how that works) or just pull out of uk.
I hope a country like switzerland or something lets companies host servers there for europe without enforcing dumb laws from uk/european union.
Pamasich
in reply to dogs0n • • •Not going to happen with Switzerland and EU laws. Being completely surrounded by the EU, we're really bad with leverage and are already struggling to not have worse and worse deals forced on us. Plus, we have our own Chat Control type law coming up (which is why Proton is leaving). There's no way we'll take a stance against EU law.
brsrklf
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in reply to brsrklf • • •rozodru
in reply to NauticalNoodle • • •They've already "flocked". The site and userbase is a shell of its former self and it's hey day is long passed. The users aged out or just went to places like kiwi farms, random discord channels, etc.
I mean you're on Lemmy, a good chunk of old 4chan users are here, so you're amongst them.
dreadbeef
in reply to rozodru • • •I love rage-baiting on /g/ and /tg/, it's a very good outlet
been temp-banned on /tg/ for trolling on an OSR thread making fun of their gygax-worship, good time
Pamasich
in reply to 0x0 • • •I'm a bit confused by comments on this topic. Do sovereign countries not have the right anymore to decide their own laws and issue punishment when they're not followed?
Like, they obviously can't enforce these fines. This article says as much. The fines can't be enforced, but if 4chan ignores them, that opens the door for other measures like delisting the site from search engines or blocking access to it from the UK (these two examples are taken from the article). Which are fair measures imo.
Like, to the people saying UK can't do laws which apply to services which are merely accessible in the UK and have no physical presence there, do you also apply this logic to the GDPR, which works the same way? The US has these laws too, like COPPA iirc. It's not really something the UK came up with, it's a bit of a standard with laws like this as far as I know.
Hubi
in reply to Pamasich • • •Some laws are bullshit and I commend everyone who decides to ignore them.
This has already happened to a number of sites and services, with some voluntarily blocking access from the UK. 4chan's approach is just a bit different in the way that they are waiting to get blocked instead of doing the blocking themselves. It sucks for citizens from the UK, but they are the ones that put the people in power who created those laws.
This has also been the case already. There are a number of American websites that will just straight up deny you access if you visit them from a EU country. Some even cite GDPR as the reason for being blocked. I don't think it's the best solution, but I accept it because I wouldn't want to visit a site that cannot comply with it anyways.
FriendBesto
in reply to Pamasich • • •The UK government is basically testing the waters of what it can get away with and also normalising the notion that they could even bother/dare to ask for this to be done in the first place.
It is about shifting the Overton Window for the normies. Especially, over time. For example, the first people to be cancelled or removed from social media years ago, like almost 10 years ago, it was done with some bad fanfare, and the people who did it, Twitter, etc... I remember said that they did it even despite some internal strife over the notion of censorship. Now, people can get cancelled on a dime and no one really cares all that much.
If you told someone 20 years ago that you should pay ca$h out of your own pocket as to get a corporate microphone that listens to you, your family, your children, constantly so it can play songs for you and tell you the weather and gives some other conveniences, 99% people would say that you would have to be fucking insane to do that. Being such a breach of damn common sense and reasonable privacy. Look at people now. Shifting the Overton Window over timr works for fun, control and profit.
Of course, if the US does not play along, then UK's bill goes nowhere outside the UK, or maybe they will try it with weaker geopolitical countries. But governments do this type of thing all the time, under a, "We will push until someone else finally pushes back," mentality.
If the UK really wanted to go after 4Chan, they could contact the FBI or whoever in the USA that could serve relevant via proper channels. This has always been available to them, but this is not about that, it is about censorship and control. Obviously.
LaunchesKayaks
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