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Xi Jinping says world faces ‘peace or war’, as Putin and Kim join him for military parade


Xi Jinping said the world was facing a choice between peace or war as he held China’s largest-ever military parade, joined by Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un in a show of defiance to the west.

Putin and Kim, the authoritarian leaders of Russia and North Korea, were among dozens of world leaders who attended the parade, a massive display of military hardware and personnel, orchestrated to mark the 80th anniversary of the end of the second world war, which China calls the War of Resistance against Japanese Aggression.

“Today, humanity is again faced with the choice of peace or war, dialogue or confrontation, win-win or zero-sum,” Xi told the crowd of more than 50,000 spectators, adding that the Chinese people “firmly stand on the right side of history”.



Thailand ruling party moves to dissolve parliament


Thailand's acting government is seeking to dissolve the parliament after a rival candidate gained the support of a power-brokering bloc. The dissolution of the parliament would need the Thai king's approval.
in reply to MicroWave

Donald taking notes

Or he would, if he could read or write

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in reply to Davriellelouna

This is just hand wringing.

Until you actually recognise this as genocide and then implement your responsibilities under international law then you are still complicit.

Foreign policy is not part of the EU and is the sovereign responsibility of each country so you do not have to be in sync or follow others in this.

in reply to RubberDuck

Liberals have perfected the art of public hand wringing and pearl clutching over the genocide that they are supporting.


in reply to Davriellelouna

Oh, it "has ties" to Tren De Aragua? Given Trump's track record I have to assume that means they accidentally merc'd a random fishing boat from Guyana and are saying it was a Venezuelan drug boat so they can be like, "Um, it's actually good that we murdered those people, actually."


Israeli drones drop grenades near UN peacekeepers in Lebanon in what UNIFIL calls a serious attack


The peacekeeping force known as UNIFIL described the Tuesday morning incident as “one of the most serious attacks on UNIFIL personnel and assets” since the cessation of hostilities in November that ended the 14-month Israel-Hezbollah war.

UNIFIL said Israeli drones dropped four grenades close to the peacekeepers, who were working to clear roadblocks that hindered access to a U.N. position along the border line. One grenade hit within 20 meters (yards) and three others within approximately 100 meters of U.N. personnel and vehicles, it said, adding the drones were observed returning toward Israel. No one was hurt in the attack.

UNIFIL said the Israeli military had been informed in advance of the peacekeeping force’s road clearance work in the area, southeast of the village of Marwahin less than a kilometer (mile) from the border line.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-peacekeepers-unifil-drones-drop-grenades-marwahin-79c44856265907a0a6f869f4d5e5fccc


in reply to Davriellelouna

I skim read the article but I tried to look if the marriage is arranged although it did not mention it. Because I am thinking, if the man is not even attracted to the wife, why marry her? It is likely that their marriage was arranged.
in reply to TankovayaDiviziya

Most marriages in India are heavily arranged. Misogynism is so horribly entrenched, what with reportages of abuses and death levied against women.

in reply to Davriellelouna

Chat are the allied countries of Russia and China conspiring?

Dude's about to find out how he got elected.

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in reply to Davriellelouna

My guess: there's American money involved. We shall see what future updates reveal.
in reply to Davriellelouna

Maybe somebody losing a deal or concession because the new Indonesia- Peru tradedeal?
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Belgium To Recognize Palestine, Impose Sanctions On Israel


Belgium will join France in recognizing a Palestinian state at the upcoming UN General Assembly session in New York this month, the country’s foreign minister announced on 2 September.
in reply to solo

Now just the rest of us in Europe has to follow suit.
in reply to solo

Belgium: "Best I can do is continue both-sidesing a genocide"

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Wikipedia is resilient because it is boring


Wikipedia is resilient because it is boring #wikipedia #verge #media #sources
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Yes, US funded groups are involved in Indonesia unrest


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/35603443

in reply to Spectre

Big surprise. Americans messing around with other countries to benefit their interests.
in reply to Spectre

Point your finger at America, the UK and the West in general whenever there's unrest around the world and, more likely than not, you'll be right. 🤷


Vatican puts Pope Francis' ecological preaching into practice with vocational farm center


CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy (AP) — The Vatican is inaugurating an ambitious educational center inspired by Pope Francis’ ecological legacy, a 55-acre utopian experiment in sustainable farming, vocational training and environmental schooling for kids and CEOs alike on the grounds of the papal estate on Lake Albano.

Pope Leo XIV, who has strongly reaffirmed Francis’ focus on the need to care for God’s creation, will formally open the center Friday, returning to the grounds where he spent his first papal summer. He’ll tour the lush gardens, vineyards and farm of Castel Gandolfo and celebrate a liturgy for the staff who have been working since 2022 to turn Francis’ ecological preaching into practice.

Officials on Tuesday gave a sneak peek tour of the project’s heart: A huge greenhouse in the same curved, embracing shape as the colonnade of St. Peter’s Square that faces a 10-room educational facility and dining hall. Once it’s up and running, visiting groups can come for an afternoon school trip to learn about organic farming, or a weekslong course on regenerative agriculture.

The project was inspired by Francis’ 2015 encyclical “Laudato Si” (Praised Be), which cast care for the planet as an urgent and existential moral concern that was inherently tied to questions of human dignity and justice, especially for the poor.

In the 10 years since, a grassroots movement has taken root in the church to implement its holistic message via workshops, conferences and now most tangibly, the educational center named for the encyclical, Borgo Laudato Si.

The center aims to accomplish many of the goals of the environmental cause. Solar panels will provide all the power the facility needs, plastics will be banned and recycling and composting systems will be used to reach zero-waste. Officials say water will be conserved and maximized via “smart irrigation” systems that use Artificial Intelligence to determine plants needs, along with rainwater harvesting and the installation of wastewater treatment and reuse systems.

https://apnews.com/article/vatican-environment-pope-francis-2496c463d6a6f13b5b18d172e7d7ccd2

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in reply to Stamau123

Well, that's 0.00000015% of global warming taken care of
(Not really, that's just the percentage of Earth's land area this project spans. Given that they use AI, it's hard to tell if they are really helping.)

in reply to zero

Chicken shit government who would rather serve corporations than the people.


in reply to zero

Beijing landmark = Tianmen Square. They're mocking democracy as our "king" wears orange paint instead of clothes. They're telling the world that democracy will always devolve into fascism and Nazism. They highlight the nature of man to always seek absolute power while ignoring their role in tipping the USA into madness from afar. It is imperative that we stop the madness in the USA and prove them wrong. The battle has always been democracy vs authoritarianism. They've played us as the right is preoccupied with infantile notions of good versus evil and the left doing the same thing with capitalism versus socialism.
in reply to ruuster13

They're telling the world that democracy will always devolve into fascism and Nazism.


I'm honestly not sure they're wrong about that.


in reply to zero

Peace through being a hard target is a strategy that has been proven effective throughout history.

It'd be nice if international law and fickle allies would help, but those have never been that reliable.



Developing countries swap out of dollar debt to cut borrowing costs


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Sovereign borrowers are turning to lower interest rates in currencies such as the Chinese renminbi and Swiss franc

A switch to renminbi borrowing — which comes as the Chinese currency hits its highest level against the dollar this year

Kenya and Sri Lanka are seeking to convert high-profile dollar loans into the currency.



Brazil: Supreme Court mulls verdict over Bolsonaro coup plot


Jair Bolsonaro is accused of a plot to retain power after he lost the presidency in 2022. Supreme Court Judge De Moraes accused him of seeking a "dictatorship," while Trump has called the case a "witch hunt."
in reply to MicroWave

I hope he rots for 40 yrs. The US could learn about democracy from Brasil



digital sovereignty and you





Temu hit with $2 million penalty involving reporting of stolen, counterfeit or unsafe items


Action is the first brought under the Act, which ensures consumers can report suspicious activity to online marketplaces and contact major third party sellers

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2025/09/online-marketplace-temu-pay-2-million-penalty-alleged-inform-act-violations

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in reply to return2ozma

Hmm... Maybe, just maybe, the problem is not the tourists, but ever increasing rent?

I remember the first years of Airbnb - met a ton of lovely hosts, lived in their abodes with them in the next room. BnB alike. Now, Airbnb provides "hotels" which are in direct competition with long term rentals.

This is not a tourist problem, never has been.

in reply to cub Gucci

Blaming who needs to be blamed is too much work. So let's blame tourists, immigrants, minorities, etc. Doesn't matter the country.

People are too fucking stupid and spineless to blame the rich.

in reply to Devolution

The difference is that tourists are not a somehow disadvantaged group. My livelihood isn't endangered because I can't go to a tourist spot in Spain somewhere without being heckled (though, when I actually was in Spain, everyone was nice, but Madrid isn't that much of a tourist spot compared to others).

Also, in some cases, it isn't "the rich" – I too love to point out the issues they cause – but sometimes, it's just ordinary people hoping to make a quick buck buying up property to rent it out on AirBNB. Yes, it's also rich foreigners getting property everywhere for themselves, which is a problem. But "the rich" don't bother with AirBNB, they just build hotels, and these normally don't compete with normal housing.

in reply to Laser

Look, if this was about fucktards like Johnny Somali, I'd get it. But not every tourist is deserving of said treatment.
in reply to Devolution

Because they vow to be rich too. If you wish away someone else's Lamborgini, you'll also have to give up your own dreams of owning a Lamborgini (Kit cars are better, but would be hard to pull off with the modern no right to repair mentality).
in reply to cub Gucci

This is not a tourist problem, never has been.


Tourists are one source of the demand that drives up the rents. So yeah, they're part of the problem.

in reply to phutatorius

A valid point. But how are you going to decrease the number of tourists?

Well, Bali authorities, for example, decided to decrease the number of tourists by allowing only wealthy tourists

asiatimes.com/2021/09/bali-wan…

businessinsider.com/tourist-vi…

euronews.com/travel/2025/02/27…


So, is your suggestion similar to this - allow only extra rich people to places like Vienna, Barcelona, and Bali?

in reply to cub Gucci

One solution would be to prohibit short term rentals for housing (airbnb etc), and funnel the tourists into hotels, to increase housing stock.
in reply to return2ozma

"Poor people tricked into being racist instead of demanding housing as a human right."

in reply to XLE

TLDR: Apps are open, models are open weight but you don't know which one you get, and they have not yet disclosed any tweaks they may have made (although for me, it never sounded like they actually tweak the models all too much)
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in reply to UnfortunateShort

Your tl;dr appears to be missing some important data. You can have an opinion but please don't represent it as an accurate summary.

Things you crucially missed:

  • Less open than every other service available
  • Bills itself as the most open
  • Server side source code is MIA
  • No model card available. Evaluations, risks, biases, guardrails and safety measures unclear.
in reply to XLE

It get worse, and the model weights is a bit inaccurate with the Sept update:

The only open source code we have found is for the Lumo mobile and web apps. Proton calling the Lumo AI assistant open source based on that is a bit like Microsoft calling Windows open source just because there's a github repository for Windows Terminal.

The models listed on Lumo's privacy policy page are "Nemo, OpenHands 32B, OLMO 2 32B, and Mistral Small 3". OpenHands is a QWEN fine-tune, and Nemo and Mistral Small are both Mistral models. Since Proton has open-sourced neither the Lumo system prompt nor the mysterious routing methods that decide which model will handle your query, you never know what you are going to get.


So if the server isn't open source, and the server does all the work, this system is simply not Open Source.

in reply to XLE

Proton claiming shit that they don't actually do or can do?

Consider me shocked!



Prominent UK women tell rightwingers: stop linking immigration to sexual abuse


Prominent women including cultural figures, politicians and campaigners have signed a letter criticising rightwing attempts to link sexual violence in Britain to asylum seekers.

Signatories include the musicians Paloma Faith, Charlotte Church and Anoushka Shankar as well as Labour, Green and independent MPs including Kim Johnson, Ellie Chowns, Diane Abbott and Zarah Sultana.

"We reject the far right’s racist lies about ‘protecting’ women and girls. They are not defenders of women – they exploit violence against women to fuel hate and division,” the letter says.

The open letter, titled Women Against the Far Right, follows a surge in protests outside accommodation housing asylum seekers and far-right attempts to exploit a number of cases of alleged sexual crimes involving asylum seekers.

in reply to ZILtoid1991

She doesn't give a shit about true evils in the world, not about some malific dark figure wreaking death on innocence to make "inferior" people bow in fear. She only cares about making the lives of young people born different to her strict worldview as abysmal and horrible as possible. She should read this book about a boy born different to his peers who embraces it and eventually overthrows true evil and terror... oh wait.
in reply to Coldcell

In the book, many of those wacky characters "grow out of it".

Modern conservatism is just fascism, but with "they will grow out of it eventually" mentality. Crustaceans evolve into crabs, conservatives evolve into Hitlers.

in reply to HellsBelle

Oh, so if you study something, that magically means there will be no prejudice? Whatever, dude.


World’s biggest iceberg breaks up after 40 years: ‘Most don’t make it this far’


Nearly 40 years after breaking off Antarctica, a colossal iceberg ranked among the oldest and largest ever recorded is finally crumbling apart in warmer waters, and could disappear within weeks.

Earlier this year, the “megaberg” known as A23a weighed a little under a trillion tonnes and was more than twice the size of Greater London, a behemoth unrivalled at the time.

The gigantic slab of frozen freshwater was so large it even briefly threatened penguin feeding grounds on a remote island in the South Atlantic Ocean, but ended up moving on.

It is now less than half its original size, but still a hefty 1,770 sq km (683 sq miles) and 60km (37 miles) at its widest point, according to AFP analysis of satellite images by the EU Earth observation monitor Copernicus.

in reply to HellsBelle

Wow, this is really disappointing. I thought A23a had what it took to last. I suppose in the end the fame and the pressure to live up to public expectations will break up even the strongest bonds.

No doubt the paparazzi following the 'berg around, shooting photos of every dip and rise, and the temptations found in warmer waters led to this demise.

in reply to HellsBelle

I tried to find the current location of the iceberg and was met with a sad reminder of how much data the U.S. government contributes. Basically, all the location updates came from NOAA, and those haven’t been updated since March.


Trump’s DOJ Wants to Deprive Trans People of the Right to Self-Defense


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/48040580

The Justice Department’s interest in stripping trans people of Second Amendment rights would expose vulnerable communities to more danger.




Trump’s DOJ Wants to Deprive Trans People of the Right to Self-Defense


The Justice Department’s interest in stripping trans people of Second Amendment rights would expose vulnerable communities to more danger.






Aggiornamento a NodeBB 4.5.1


Ciao, questo pomeriggio è stato fatto un aggiornamento a NodeBB 4.5.1 passando prima dalla 4.5.0. Mi sembra funzioni tutto ma se riscontrate errori o problemi scrivetemi pure. Non allego i changelog perché stavolta sono luuuuuuuuuuuunghi ma li trovate su

Ciao,
questo pomeriggio è stato fatto un aggiornamento a NodeBB 4.5.1 passando prima dalla 4.5.0.

Mi sembra funzioni tutto ma se riscontrate errori o problemi scrivetemi pure.

Non allego i changelog perché stavolta sono luuuuuuuuuuuunghi ma li trovate su GitHub:



U.S. military strikes drug-carrying boat from Venezuela, Rubio says


in reply to Arthur Besse

I note the details of this incident are sparse, per the article, yet CBS utterly fails to use the word alleged at all. This is a 'drug boat' not an 'alleged drug boat,' nor a 'boat allegedly smuggling drugs.' Did they even ask what proof the military had before blowing up this 'drug boat?'

Is the USA now blowing up any boat at sea that they feel is a drug boat? Isn't the norm to have the Coast Guard intercept such boats board them, gather evidence, and make arrests? I guess this is the new war on drugs.

in reply to Boddhisatva

Yes. These are normally handled by the Coast Guard. There's a reason the Coast Guard vessels are armed. They can more than handle anything a cartel drug boat is carrying. They're heavily armed enough that most intercepted vessels surrender without a fight. Actually taking fire is extraordinarily rare.

There is absolutely zero reason to waste US Navy vessels on this. It appears Trump just blew up a random boat that could have easily been intercepted. Even assuming it is a drug boat, this attack is completely detrimental to fighting the drug trade. If you intercept the vessel, you can interrogate the crew, gather evidence from the vessel, and help crack the cartel network they are a part of. But you can't do any of that with a corpse-filled wreck on the bottom of the ocean.

in reply to WoodScientist

Yep. I'm pretty sure that Trump is on a full on murderous power trip. He likes being able to order people killed. Remember when he took out a full page ad demanding that the Central Park 5 be executed for their crimes? The ad said, in part:

Mayor Koch has stated that hate and rancor should be removed from our hearts. I do not think so. I want to hate these muggers and murderers.. They should be forced to suffer and, when they kill, they should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence. Yes, Mayor Koch, I want to hate these murderers and I always will. I am not looking to psychoanalyze or understand them, I am looking to punish them. If the punishment is strong, the attacks on innocent people will stop. - Donald Trump


They were innocent, by the way.

It wasn't until 2002 that the five men were exonerated after convicted rapist and murderer Matias Reyes confessed to the crime. Reyes' DNA matched the sample found on Meili.


Here is another example of his love of killing people. Did you know that since 1976, only 16 people have been executed by the federal government. Two in 2001. One in 2003. The other 13 were executed in 2020 and 2021 when then President Trump learned he could expedite their executions.

Expect a lot more blood from this man now that he can and is ordering the military to wantonly spill it.

in reply to WoodScientist

To be more detailed, The firearms serve another purpose than just returning fire in a gunfight. The coast gaurd often disable the engines of boats they're pursuing by shooting the engine.

Course, these are more just guidelines. How the coast gaurd actually conducts itself is likely adapted to the situation.

in reply to Arthur Besse

This isn't the 80s, I don't think people are buying into the war on drugs facade masking imperialism as much as they used to. Drugs flow along the pacific. Venezuela is small fries for drug trafficking. This is absolutely reasserting imperial interest in Latin America and Venezuela being the most prominent non-US aligned country at the moment in Latin America. If the US acts stupid and tries to false flag themselves into a regime change invasion, it'll be more of a clusterfuck than Afghanistan. No doubt in my mind nonsense in Venezuela would spark something in Colombia and I doubt Brazil would want the US to win either
in reply to commander

It wouldn't push Venezuelans to not want whoever reforms them once the U.S. scuffle is over to not join BRICS as well, and move away from the U.S. dollar. They already wanted in now if I remember, but Brazil vetoed it.
in reply to LifeInMultipleChoice

Whatever opposition there was against Maduro, the US is ruining it for them. Instead Venezuela gets a clear view of the regional existential threat, further motivation to modernize its military and build non-US aligned trade. They're shaping up to be, and getting help from the US in drumming up motivation, the Americas Iran but they can't be boogyman'ed as Muslims
in reply to commander

He needs a war so he can declare martial law so he can cancel elections. Venezuela is just low-hanging fruit.


The Sense And Nonsense Of Virtual Power Plants


in reply to mesa

Moss Landing battery storage facility has repeatedly caught fire, which highlights another potentially major savings for grid operators, as the fallout of such events are instead borne by the operator of the battery, which for the DSGS would be the home owner.


Where do I sign up?

in reply to mesa

Did I understand right that VPPs are just a way of grouping some generation and storage together in such a way that you can pretend it will act as a CCGT plant?

If so, surely this is papering over the challenge. A real solution will present all the information used to operate a "VPP" to the entire grid, and allow all the available resources to be managed by the grid.


in reply to Davriellelouna

Great now France is going to have a bunch of christofacist morons running around and voting for the end of the world
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Israel calls up 60,000 reservists for Gaza City occupation


Israel has begun mobilizing some 60,000 reservists to take part in its planned occupation of Gaza City, the army confirmed Tuesday, signaling a major escalation in the genocidal war now in its 23rd month, Anadolu reports.

The military said the reservists will be issued weapons, personal gear and full tactical equipment, with units undergoing drills in urban and open terrain combat “to boost readiness for upcoming missions.”

Israeli daily Maariv said the mobilization would see reservists undergo three to four days of training before some are reassigned to replace regular troops stationed on the northern front.

The step follows Friday’s declaration of Gaza City as a “dangerous combat zone,” accompanied by heavy bombardment and demolitions that have already caused mass civilian casualties and widespread destruction. Gaza’s Government Media Office has accused the army of deploying explosive-laden robots and adopting a “scorched earth” strategy.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20250902-israel-calls-up-60000-reservists-for-gaza-city-occupation/v

in reply to Lembot_0004

I don't live there so I never really knew the extent of Israeli depravity until recent events pulled back the veil for me. What I've read and seen in the last year has convinced me that entire society is fucked beyond redemption and collectively deserve the title "Nazi". Maybe they were just as shitty 50 years ago, I think that a lot of people myself included are learning a lot about Israel recently.
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in reply to flandish

They clearly aren't Nazis, because Nazis were not and are not some generic evil, but a specific one. So never.

People only want to call them Nazis as a lazy shorthand for the ultimate evil, and because of the painful irony. Neither of these are good reasons.

in reply to FishFace

they are genocidal monsters, doing nazi like things with nazi rhetoric and the only difference is the lack of a german language.

please.

they’re fucking nazis.

in reply to flandish

the only difference is the lack of a german language.


And the lack of anti-semitism

And the boundedness of their expansionism

And many other differences.

Expand your fucking vocabulary, rather than reaching for the only genocidal analogue you can think of. There has been more than one genocide in history, and you do dishonour to the victims of any one by using its name to describe something different.

in reply to FishFace

They are GENOCIDING SEMITIC PEOPLE.

They want to remove Gaza and sell homes to other zionists.

Stop. just … grow the fuck up. It’s almost like you’re either defending zionists or nazis, I can’t tell which. Done with you.

There are TONS of genocides happening today. Not all are by nazis. I never said that. Two things can be true at once… and zionism’s growth and foothold on the semitic people of Palestine is a ww1/ww2 era invention. You know. When those silly nazis you seem to think don’t exist seemed to crop up.

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in reply to flandish

I am defending the truth, and you're too committed to your untruth (whether mistake or lie) to accept that someone can do that while otherwise sharing your beliefs.

They are GENOCIDING SEMITIC PEOPLE.


"Semitic people" is not a category that is used any more; it could refer to "speakers of Semitic languages" but is completely obsolete for referring to ethnicity. And besides, Zionism, or the current Israeli government's version of it, is not murdering Palestinians because they belong to the group of people once referred to as "Semitic" because that would include all Arabs and all Jews as well as several other people. Genociding people who belong to a certain category doesn't mean you're anti- that category. For a trivial example, they are genociding human beings - does that mean they are anti-human? Obviously not.

So, if anti-semitism does not refer to hatred for the entire group of "Semitic people", what does it refer to? Well, it has some history being used more or less in the way you apparently believe it still is used, but in 1879 a chap called Wilhelm Marr wrote a pamphlet in which he used Semitismus interchangeably with Judentum, and Antisemitismus as a synonym for Judenhaß - Jew-hatred. That is what it has meant since.

There is only one reason I can think of beyond blinkered stubbornness that you could possibly want to associate the Nazis and antisemitism with the Israeli government, and that is out of some pathetic sense of irony, that it is somehow poetic that the Jews have become what befell them in the early 20th century. That is poetic, but poetry isn't truth, and disregarding the suffering of Jews at the hands of the real Nazis by calling what Israel now commits "Nazism" belies a disregard for Jews as a whole which is at best distasteful and at worst abhorrent.

You are letting yourself speak in a prejudiced way because of your opposition to the genocide that Israel is carrying out. How can you say "grow up" when you let that happen? No population deserves to be murdered the way Israel is murdering Palestinians - but no population deserves to have its past suffering mocked in the way you mock the suffering of Jews by calling Israel Nazis.

in reply to mrlemmyhimself

Please explain how Zionism is:

Prejudiced, discriminatory, hostile or opposed politically or religiously against ethnic or religious Jews or against Judaism


More information on usage can be found here but even if you want to use the non-standard sense of the word, it is:
* clearly wrong, because Zionism privileges one group it should be prejudiced against if it were anti-semitic in this sense; and
* clearly not the anti-semitism of the Nazis - so in no way does this make Zionism a form of Nazism, which is what we were talking about.

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in reply to FishFace

Zionism relies on "othering" Jews, making them feel unsafe in their home countries. They literally sterilized African Jews in the pursuit of their colonial vision.

As for Nazism, I'm not arguing there, it is technically different. But insofar as people think about Nazis as evil, it's a useful word in these conversations.

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in reply to mrlemmyhimself

I agree it's useful to highlight the parallels between what the Israeli government does now and what was done to the Jewish population by the Nazis, but equating the two is not useful, is actively harmful, and extremely offensive. That's what I objected to above.

Zionism relies on “othering” Jews, making them feel unsafe in their home countries.


You can just as well say that all nationalist projects rely on "othering" in the sense of dividing whatever group is deemed "us" from everyone else. But of course, nobody normally calls this "othering", because it explicitly makes the in-group us not other than us. It would be wholly wrong to say that Zionist Jews characterise Jews as other than us, so I don't see how this is "othering" in any way that makes sense. They may other particular subgroups, but that is simply not a basis for describing the process as "othering Jews" because Jewishness is not the axis along which the division is being made; rather it is the axis of the subgroup. Scots might other the English, and this would not be a basis on which to accuse Scots of anti-British prejudice.

Othering alone is in any case not prejudice; it is merely something that often precedes it.

They literally sterilized African Jews in the pursuit of their colonial vision.


That would be a subgroup of Jews, not Jews as a whole. You wouldn't call it homophobia to bully Michael who happens to be gay if you don't bully other gay people.

in reply to FishFace

Let’s ask the survivors of Gaza what they want to call Israel and just go with that.

And I hope there will be survivors.



in reply to Davriellelouna

The Germans are one to speak. Any country that’s still actively supporting Israel can never convince me that they’re better than Russia. If Gaza falls, so should Ukraine and the rest of Europe. I don’t care about the fate of this continent. Let it be a bloody battlefield again. That’s the only way to learn these filthy colonizers a lesson,
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in reply to mnhs1

It's not a competition between Gaza and Ukraine for those of us with a degree of moral consistency.