Malnourished kids arrive daily at a Gaza hospital as Netanyahu denies hunger
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday told local media, “There is no hunger. There was no hunger. There was a shortage, and there was certainly no policy of starvation.”In the face of international outcry, Netanyahu has pushed back, saying reports of starvation are “lies” promoted by Hamas.
However, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric this week warned that starvation and malnutrition in Gaza are at the highest levels since the war began.
The U.N. says nearly 12,000 children under 5 were found to have acute malnutrition in July — including more than 2,500 with severe malnutrition, the most dangerous level. The World Health Organization says the numbers are likely an undercount.
The past two weeks, Israel has allowed around triple the amount of food into Gaza than had been entering since late May. That followed 2 1/2 months when Israel barred all food, medicine and other supplies, saying it was to pressure Hamas to release hostages taken during its 2023 attack that launched the war. The new influx has brought more food within reach for some of the population and lowered some prices in marketplaces, though it remains far more expensive than prewar levels and unaffordable for many.
like this
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
French arms exports to Israel in 2024 reached an amount not seen in eight years amid a significant rise of French weapons sales globally, according to Mediapart.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
like this
European Commission fines Google in ad-tech antitrust case
like this
Sextortion with a twist: Spyware takes webcam pics of users watching porn
Sextortion with a twist: Spyware takes webcam pics of users watching porn
Spyware monitors the infected user’s browser for NSFW content before activating itself.WIRED (Ars Technica)
like this
Russia does not decide if West can deploy troops to Ukraine, NATO chief says
Russia does not decide if West can deploy troops to Ukraine, NATO chief says
As European and Ukrainian leaders firm up plans for possibile Western security guarantees in the event of an end to the Ukraine conflict on Thursday, NATO secretary general Mark Rutte warned against giving Russian leader Vladimir Putin any say in the…Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
like this
Being very much a consensus based talk-shop of competing interests and varied points of view is both the EU's weakness and it's greatest strength: it takes ages for it to act but when it does, it does so in a far more organized way, with more staying power and better long term results than the "rush in, break shit up, rush out leaving it all broken" of players like the US (as seen in places like Iraq and Afghanistan).
The "American Way" has a lousy track record of delivering stability by itself (did it ever manage to do so after WWII?) whilst the EU Way has a lousy track record of actually going all the way to the stage of actually doing something (though it tends to act in ways other than the military).
In the long run I think the EU's way delivers much better outcomes for everybody involved, if and when it does manage to get around to actually act in an assertive way.
In summary, then EU is pretty shit when it comes to immediate reaction and at actually doing anything but it works in long-running situations which are complex to untangle and creating long term stable outcomes.
A good example of the EU Way is the handling of the break up of Yugoslavia, though one could say it was more a cooperation of the American Way and the EU Way.
700 days of Israeli genocide in Gaza a stain on humanity: Hamas
The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.
In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.
The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”
Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”
The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”
Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.
like this
Western troops in Ukraine would be ‘legitimate targets’, Putin says
Vladimir Putin has said any western troops placed in Ukraine would be “legitimate targets” for Russian strikes, upping the stakes as Kyiv’s allies scramble to come up with a convincing offer of postwar support to Ukraine.
Speaking a day after the French president, Emmanuel Macron, announced still-vague plans for a package of support for Ukraine backed by 26 nations, Putin on Friday said any guarantees that involved boots on the ground would violate Moscow’s longstanding objections to Nato troops in Ukraine.
Add: See for more context this other news post
Western troops in Ukraine would be ‘legitimate targets’, Putin says
Russian president’s threat follows French proposal for postwar support for Kyiv that would include presence of Nato countries’ forcesShaun Walker (The Guardian)
like this
Pope feeds fish as he opens Vatican's ambitious model of sustainable farming and education
ROME (AP) — Pope Leo XIV fed fish in the fishpond, pet horses and visited organic vineyards Friday as he inaugurated the Vatican’s ambitious project to turn Pope Francis’ preaching about caring for the environment into practice.
Leo formally opened Borgo Laudato Si, a 55-acre utopian experiment in sustainable farming, vocational training and environmental education located on the grounds of the papal summer retreat in Castel Gandolfo. The Vatican hopes the center, open to student groups, CEOs and others, will be a model of ecological stewardship, education and spirituality for the Catholic Church and beyond.
Leo travelled by helicopter to Castel Gandolfo and then zoomed around the estate’s cypress-lined gardens in an electric golf cart to reach the center, which is named for Francis’ landmark 2015 encyclical “Laudato Si,” or Praised Be. The document, which inspired an entire church movement, cast care for the planet as an urgent and existential moral concern that was inherently tied to questions of human dignity and justice, especially for the poor.
Leo has strongly reaffirmed Francis’ focus on the need to care for God’s creation, and celebrated the first “green” Mass in the estate’s gardens earlier this summer, using a new set of prayers inspired by the encyclical that specifically invoke prayers for creation. On Friday, some 10 years after Laudato Si was published, Leo presided over a liturgy to bless the new center after touring its gardens, farm and classrooms.
Leo recalled that according to the Bible, human beings have a special place in the act of creation, created in the “image and likeness of God.”
“But this privilege comes with a great responsibility: that of caring for all other creatures, in accordance with the creator’s plan,” he said. “Care for creation, therefore, represents a true vocation for every human being, a commitment to be carried out within creation itself, without ever forgetting that we are creatures among creatures, and not creators.”
like this
I admit I dont follow religion centric news articles so excuse me if im way off base and that im basing this comment on the assumption a mjority of priests have stopped fucking kids. With that being said, i wish most governments put in the same efforts the Vatican seems to show in actively making changes to become more tolerant, progressive and modern. In the 15 to 20 years since the last catholic school kicked me out, I feel like the church has gone from the poster child for hating gays, hating safe sex, actively covering up all the kid fuckers, ignoring climate change and avoiding geopolitical conflicts; and has grown into a go earning body that acknowledges its past fuck ups, grew to include gays, seemingly stopped fucking kids, actively supports changes for climate control, and even calling out leaders for allowing a genocide to happen.
Im definitely not saying the people who follow the church are the dumbest most closed minded hateful fuckin people in the world. Im just commenting on the governing body I see for headlines of articles I have no interest in reading lol
Doesn't read beyond the headline
Hell yeah! Feed those fish, Pope Bob! Feed them good!
Belarus detains Polish Carmelite monk for alleged spying
TALLINN, Estonia (AP) — Belarus has detained a Polish monk on suspicion of espionage, the latest escalation in Minsk’s long-running standoff with its NATO member neighbor.
Belarusian authorities said Thursday that Grzegorz Gaweł, 27, was arrested in the town of Lepel, northwest of the Belarusian capital, after he allegedly obtained sensitive documents relating to military drills involving Russia. He faces up to 15 years in prison.
Belarus, Moscow’s close and dependent ally, allowed the Kremlin to use its territory to send troops into neighboring Ukraine in 2022, and has also hosted some of Russia’s tactical nuclear weapons. Its strongman President, Alexander Lukashenko, has ruled the country with an iron fist for more than 30 years, relying on subsidies and support from the Kremlin.
Belarusian state television on Thursday broadcast what it said was footage of Gaweł’s arrest. It shows the Pole handing to uniformed officers a copy of a document marked “secret.” The document’s heading suggests it pertains to joint Russian-Belarusian military exercises set to begin next Friday.
Belarusian security officers are shown pushing Gaweł to the ground, confiscating money and a SIM card registered in another name.
Israel strikes high-rise building and threatens to hit more in Gaza City offensive
DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israel struck a high-rise building in Gaza City on Friday after an evacuation warning, as the military stepped up operations aimed at seizing control of the famine-stricken city of some 1 million Palestinians. Strikes elsewhere in Gaza City killed at least 27 people, health officials said.
The military accused Hamas militants of using high-rises in the city for surveillance and planned ambushes, and said it would carry out “precise, targeted strikes” on militant infrastructure in the coming days.
Israel has begun mobilizing tens of thousands of reservists and is repeating evacuation warnings as part of its plan to widen its offensive, which has sparked opposition domestically and condemnation abroad.
Palestinians said Friday’s strike targeted the Mushtaha tower in Rimal, an upscale neighborhood before the war. Gaza City resident Ahmed al-Boari said people fleeing Israeli operations elsewhere in the city had sought shelter in and around the building. Satellite imagery showed a large number of tents nearby.
It was not immediately clear if anyone was wounded or killed in the strike.
like this
AP reporting calls into question why and how Israel attacked a Gaza hospital
TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — Associated Press reporting into an Israeli attack on a Gaza Strip hospital that killed 22 people, including five journalists, raises serious questions about Israel’s rationale for the strikes and the way they were carried out. Among those killed was Mariam Dagga, who worked for AP and other news organizations.
Israeli forces struck a position well known as a journalists’ gathering point, because — a military official said — they believed a camera on the roof was being used by Hamas to observe troops. The official cited “suspicious behavior” and unspecified intelligence, but the only detail given was that there was a towel on the camera and the person with it — which the army interpreted as an effort to avoid identification.
AP has gathered new evidence indicating the camera in question actually belonged to a Reuters video journalist who routinely covered his equipment with a white cloth to protect it from the scorching sun and dust. The journalist, Hussam al-Masri, was killed in the initial strike.
The evidence calls into question why Israeli forces went through with the strike. Witnesses say Israel frequently observed the position by drone, including about 40 minutes before the attack, giving an opportunity to correctly identify al-Masri.
AP’s findings also reveal other troubling decisions from the Aug. 25 attack:
— Soon after the first strike, Israeli forces hit the same position again, after medical and emergency workers had reached the scene to treat the injured, and as journalists including Dagga had rushed to cover the news. The strike has raised accusations of a “double tap” — a type of attack intended to kill those responding to casualties and which experts in international law say is a possible war crime.
— Troops used high-explosive tank shells to strike a hospital, instead of more precise guided weapons that might have resulted in fewer casualties.
— In all, Israel struck the hospital four times, the AP found, each time without warning.
like this
Why did Israel blow up another hospital? Lol, the fucking disgusting cunts target hospitals, that's why. What's the strategic value of blowing up a hospital? Israel is making sure that the fewest amount Palestinians exist as possible...aka a genocide.
edit: better words in better order
ByteDance chip design staff suddenly find out they report to Singapore unit, sources say
ByteDance chip design staff suddenly find out they report to Singapore unit, sources say
The employees made the discovery when they were moved into a new group on the company’s internal messaging platform Read more at straitstimes.com.ST
like this
New York Times: Unsuccessful 2019 Navy SEAL mission left unarmed North Koreans dead
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/north-korea-navy-seal-mission-nyt
like this
any other president would be successfully impeached for shit like this
Trump was successfully impeached twice.
Trump was successfully impeached twice.
sorry, impeached and held accountable, and removed from office.
yeah forgot the GOP bent over backwards, twice, to save this idiot orange baboon of a traitor
We've had far more presidents deserving of impeachment than ever actually impeached and convicted.
This isn't a partisan problem nearly so much as it is a systematic one. Countries with Parliaments can oust a PM with a simple singular No Confidence vote. The American system of removing a president is functionally impossible.
This isn’t a partisan problem nearly so much as it is a systematic one.
can agree on everything up to here. the evidence presented for Trump's impeachment should have sealed any impartial judgement; it's a systematic problem when half the elected officials FEAR the power Trump would bring against them if they convicted him.
the evidence presented for Trump’s impeachment should have sealed any impartial judgement
Impeachments aren't impartial. Senators have to go back home to their states and explain their decision to voters.
when half the elected officials FEAR the power Trump would bring against them if they convicted him.
It's not the fear of Trump, but of the fascist donors and organizers who would quickly primary them out.
It’s not the fear of Trump, but of the fascist donors and organizers who would quickly primary them out.
they literally said they were afraid.
thehill.com/homenews/house/534…
mediaite.com/politics/trump/ho…
done with this convo.
House Republicans Reportedly Terrified of Crossing Trump on Impeachment: They ‘Fear For Their Lives& ...
Numerous reports are indicating that House Republicans are terrified of crossing President Donald Trump and voting for his impeachment.Joe DePaolo (Mediaite)
they literally said they were afraid
And I trust them unequivocally because they've been so trustworthy before now.
done with this convo
Bye
A major investigation reports US Navy Seals killed North Korean civilians in botched 2019 mission
US Navy Seals killed North Korean civilians in botched 2019 mission, report says
New York Times says Trump authorized mission to plant listening device; team killed fishers who had come across themGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
In Britain, Criminalizing Dissent Is an Imperial Strategy
Turkey and Israel have long called on their ally Britain to crack down on solidarity groups that threaten their imperial domination. Keir Starmer’s government is increasingly playing along.
like this
the SEALs punctured the boat crew’s lungs with knives to make sure their bodies would sink.
These were trained monsters, one day they will retire and do something at home.
Everyone is focusing on trump (of course) or the "threat of nuclear war," but nobody seems to care that these were innocent people murdered by American soldiers.
North Korea isn't going to do anything. I'm sure they care less about their civilians than we do.
The fact we won't hold our government or military responsible for killing innocent people is disgusting.
MDB II – 2025.55 – O dia em que o Mendonça chamou o Careca pra porrada #podifusão
II – 2025.55 – O dia em que o Mendonça chamou o Careca pra porrada
Terrivelmente evangélico vs. Maridão de Dona ViviCastbox
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
A Lebanese government session will be held in the coming hours to discuss disarmament plansthecradle.co
Far-right AfD surges to 39% in German state, one year before election
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/47959472
The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) is far ahead in the polls in Saxony-Anhalt, a poll revealed on Thursday, just one year before the eastern state holds elections to its regional parliament.
like this
They still should immediately outlaw the AFD (NAZI) party, as per their constitution. While they're still the government, and before they're the ones fighting the new German Nazi state.
Billionaires are funding the new German nazis, like Musk the nazi, and Putin the nazi.
You have no idea, how the constitution works
Just because your Lobotomised Orange can do anything he wants over in Jesusland, there is still a working democracy here
So its time to leave jesusland for you and actually learn how it works
While yes, the Parlament has to initiate the Verfassungsschutz, the Verfassungsschutz already published a 500 or so page document about it, however, in order for them to be able to use it as evidence and therefore van the AfD, they first have to win the legal battle with them fighting the whole evidence that can get them banned in the first place.
- if they will even exist at that point, since 10 have already been killed off
More of their members should probably die. And perhaps a portion of their most zealous followers. Not the idiot randoms, but the ones that are really into their ideology.
Remember kids; fascist lives don't matter.
Lutnick predicts 'better' job number accuracy after Trump fired BLS chief
Lutnick predicts 'better' job number accuracy after Trump fired BLS chief
President Donald Trump, asked Thursday night if he could commit to saying that BLS' upcoming jobs data would be credible, declined to do so.Kevin Breuninger (CNBC)
The Fake News NEVER wanted you to know, but I’ll tell you: we have the GREATEST JOBS NUMBERS in the history of the world. Not just America—the ENTIRE PLANET. People can’t believe it! Biden couldn’t do it, Obama couldn’t do it, Lincoln never even tried (sad!), but I did it, and I did it BIG.I walk down the street—HARD HATS, STEEL WORKERS, TRUCKERS—big strong men, tears POURING down their faces, saying, “Sir, THANK YOU. I have THREE jobs now, and I’ve never been happier. My wife has two jobs, my kids have jobs, even my DOG has a job!” Tremendous spirit.
World leaders call me—Xi, Putin, Macron, even the King of England (nice guy, very weak)—all crying, literally sobbing on the phone: “Sir, we’ve never seen anything like this. How do you make so many jobs?” And I tell them: it’s called BEING TRUMP.
So true: we’re winning so much, America is working so much, and the FAKE Democrats are crying too—but not with joy, with jealousy. HISTORIC NUMBERS, FOLKS!!!
-@RealDonaldTrump
Tesla proposes new pay plan for Musk that would expand his voting power
KEY POINTS
Tesla’s board is asking investors to approve yet another outsized pay plan for CEO Elon Musk, according to a financial filing out Friday.
The full award would give Musk more than 423 million additional shares.
The company will also ask shareholders to vote on whether the automaker should invest in Musk’s artificial intelligence company, xAI.
Tesla's nearly $1 trillion new pay plan for Musk would expand his voting power
Tesla will also ask shareholders to vote on whether the automaker should invest in Musk's artificial intelligence company, xAI.Lora Kolodny (CNBC)
Tesla’s board is asking investors to approve a new pay plan for CEO Elon Musk worth about $975 billion.
Insanity
Conor McGregor asks for help in bid to be president of Ireland
Conor McGregor's bid to be Ireland's president hits snag, UFC star asks for help
Irish MMA star Conor McGregor announced his bid to be the president of Ireland on social media. What to know about his quest to be on the ballot:, USA TODAY (USA TODAY)
EU-Mercosur trade deal angers farmers, environmentalists
EU-Mercosur trade deal angers farmers, environmentalists
Europe sees the trade deal with the South American regional trading bloc Mercosur as a chance to open new markets and strengthen is hand. But resistance to the deal is unlikely to let up anytime soon.Ferenc Gaál (Deutsche Welle)
India asks Germany for help in search for EU free trade deal
India asks Germany for help in search for EU free trade deal
Foreign Minister Johann Wadephul said in Delhi that while others, like the US, erected trade barriers, Germany and India should lower them. His Indian counterpart said "we're counting on your support" in EU trade talks.Mark Hallam (Deutsche Welle)
Two Venezuelan fighter jets fly over US warship in ‘show of force’
Two Venezuelan fighter jets fly over US warship in ‘show of force’
The Pentagon argues that the ‘highly provocative move was designed to interfere’ with its ‘counter narcoterrorism operations’Nicholas Dale Leal (Ediciones EL PAÍS S.L.)
‘Someone needs to answer for what happened’: Lisbon reacts to streetcar crash that killed 16
‘Someone needs to answer for what happened’: Lisbon reacts to streetcar crash that killed 16
Residents recall smoke, screams and a mountain of bodies at site of ‘one of the biggest tragedies in our recent history’Guardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Anatomy of a coup plot: why former President Jair Bolsonaro is on trial
Anatomy of a coup plot: why Jair Bolsonaro is on trial
The former Brazilian president and seven close allies are awaiting judgment – and conviction is seen as highly likelyTiago Rogero (The Guardian)
European Commission set to launch restructure within months
The “large scale review” will look to streamline the 32,000-strong executive, a document seen by POLITICO reveals.
Plans to overhaul the EU’s executive arm will be brought forward by the start of next year at the latest, leaked documents reveal, with European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen pushing for a restructure to make its labyrinthine civil service more efficient and cost-effective.
According to a document seen by POLITICO, the bloc’s budget and public administration chief Piotr Serafin has been tasked with “a large-scale review of the Commission’s organisation and operations, together with an external benchmarking exercise.”
together with an external benchmarking exercise
In other words, a few tens of millions of euros thrown at consulting firms, resulting in a few PowerPoint decks.
like this
Trump and Putin both agree: Blame falls on Europe as Ukraine peace effort languishes
Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are on the same page again.
The US and Russian presidents are now both singling out Europe as stasis envelops efforts to end the Ukraine war three weeks after their high-profile but low-impact summit in Alaska.
Trump called on Europe to do more in a call with European leaders on Thursday — even though the only incremental diplomatic activity to do with the war is coming from US transatlantic allies as they try to work out security guarantees to protect Ukraine after any peace deal.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/trump-putin-russia-ukraine-war-zelensky-china-analysis
like this
Europe needs to put on their big boy pants and see Russia for what it is, a fucking monster than needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
I grew up under the constant threat of world-ending nuclear annihilation from those goddamned animals. Got a little better once the Soviet Union fell and the gangsters took over. And now we're almost back to square one.
Russia needs dismantled, with extreme violence. Anyway, that's why I got banned from reddit.
Most Russians are good people too. We've got to stop thinking in these kinds of terms or we'll never get along with each other long term.
We just need to stop all the violence and to mean it.
The problem is war is good for business and good for dictators. But even democratic nations talk a lot of shit. It's all dishonest.
like this
Colombian mercenaries join Rapid Support Forces fighting in Sudan
Colombian mercenaries join Rapid Support Forces fighting in Sudan
Colombian mercenaries, most of them army veterans, are recruited for their expertise gained from fighting the FARC guerrilla group.Judith Renoult (Le Monde)
Russian rocket attack kills two deminers from Danish Refugee Council in Ukraine
Russian rocket attack kills two deminers from Danish Refugee Council in Ukraine
The strike hit near the outskirts of the regional capital of Chernihiv, 125 kilometers north of Kyiv. The Danish Refugee Council (DRC) said Thursday that the Russian rocket had hit one of its demining sites.Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
like this
IninewCrow
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •The fuck is wrong with the world?
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Africa ..... someone would help.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Canada ... government would step in to do something.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Europe ... countries would mobilize to do something.
If headlines flash pictures of starving children in Palestine!!!! TURN THE PAGE, nothing to see here, nothing can be done, just ignore it for as long possible, nothing to see here.
like this
Maeve likes this.
Buffalox
in reply to IninewCrow • • •Greta Thunberg and others have been very active in trying to demonstrate that, and create publicity about it.
The level of evil by Israel and Netanyahu is clearly matching the evils of Hitler.
And yes the world needs to step in to stop Israel from actively performing genocide in Gaza.
like this
Maeve likes this.
That Weird Vegan
in reply to Buffalox • • •that's antisemetic!
In all seriousness, fuck Israel. Fuck them so fucking hard.
LillyPip
in reply to IninewCrow • • •There have been pictures of kids in this state from Africa for decades, such that people have become numb to it. People mostly don’t help. People are more worried about their own next meal now, because many people in ‘first world’ countries are one paycheque away from starvation themselves, and that’s only been made worse by the wealth-hoarding of a very few.
I think most people want to care, but the treadmill they’re on makes them only able to see their own feet.
This image is horrific, but if they stop running, this will be their own children, and that’s exactly what those in charge want you to feel.
like this
Maeve likes this.
jordanlund
in reply to IninewCrow • • •You'd think, right? I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember the 1980s famine in Ethiopia. Yeah, there were things like Band Aid and We Are The World, but also:
youtube.com/shorts/M0LUdqFJEPI
- YouTube
youtube.comIninewCrow
in reply to jordanlund • • •Definitely old enough to remember 1980s famine relief .... and also old enough to remember in the 90s when Bono from U2 saying that the whole famine relief thing was a joke ... because they raised enough money in the millions to pay off the interest payments of some of the starving countries FOR ONE YEAR!! ... the criticism was that the performers were raising money to feed starving people, while first world countries handed out enormous loans with interest payments that more or less cancelled out any humanitarian aid they gave the countries.
The whole system is a joke .... first world countries keep third world countries from developing beyond a certain point to keep them under control to access their resources, then give them humanitarian aid to keep them from starving, while making the same amount of money off them by making them pay for the debt on the loans they gave them.
So in a round about way, first world countries have a hand in keeping African countries starving, but make themselves feel good by giving aid ... but make themselves feel even better because they recoup that money and more through loan payments and interest .... essentially making money off starving people.
FordBeeblebrox
in reply to IninewCrow • • •My corvid in Christ…there are pictures of children in Alabama, and Oklahoma, and Kentucky of starving and abused young ones. Sometimes they even get shot en masse while cooped inside a concrete box.
We have… rolled back child labor laws, begun defunding all science and diverting money straight to concentration camps. Who’s gonna save the American children?
Aceticon
in reply to IninewCrow • • •The word you're probably looking for is "Racism".
Extreme Racism.
(Curiously not just from the outright Fascists but also from the very people who have spent the last 4 decades doing performative anti-Racism whilst destroying Democracy by making it a secondary power to Money)
The Nazi way of looking at people never went away, they just changed the lists of ubermenschen and untermenschen - the lives of those from the sub-human races are clearly worth much much less than the lives of those from the master races (which is curiously reflected on how most of the Press will talk about Israelis getting "murdered" whilst Palestinians merely "die").
(For me Germany is especially disappointing in this regard - a nation supporting a SECOND Holocaust, is clearly not better than when it did the first)
LillyPip
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •What’s egregious about this is not only this war, but we have ample resources as a species such that every person on earth could live comfortably if a few people weren’t hoarding all the resources.
We could collectively stop killing each other over (mostly religious) differences and put all that energy into helping each other, but no, we’ve put sociopathic zealots in charge.
We could overthrow these zealots, but they’ve brainwashed us into fighting each other instead, and fucked us into having to fight for our own resources just to survive.
We’re collectively better than this. We always have been.
Slay the dragons.
like this
Maeve likes this.
Basic Glitch
in reply to LillyPip • • •I've been thinking about this a lot lately, wondering why there never really has been a truly global uprising against oppression.
It's like sometimes a big boom happens in one part of the world, and sparks of that are sent out from there and sometimes they catch on and grow in other places, but there's never really been a global fight or movement against oppression for freedom.
We've fought world wars on behalf of individuals against each other, but we've never fought as a world against the corrupt individuals.
This is a really weird train of thought, but I was talking to somebody about this a few days ago. Inevitably what always seems to happen when movements rise up against oppression is that relying on an individual or group of individuals to lead results in a sort of containment or control of the masses by the new leaders. Even when leaders start out with the best of intentions, they can always become corrupted by power. Obviously you never want a situation where everyone everywhere relies on one single ruler with all the power bc absolute power corrupts absolutely.
But what if for humanity to truly flourish and reach our full potential, we're not actually supposed to be relying on any one leader or small group of leaders? I don't mean anarchy, because I believe that would just inevitably lead to whoever has control of the majority of weapons and resources seizing power. So how could you really keep order without individuals taking control? You would have to find a way for everyone to somehow be able to hold each other accountable. Which would be impossible for humans to ever achieve on their own.
Then I started thinking about all these tech bros who are trying to take global control and create something like a new god with AI. They all want to be the one to put their name on it because they all want to control it. They believe that they will be successful eventually as long as they keep dumping endless amounts of money and data into it.
And it kind of hit me that if something like AGI (not just a giant supercomputer that just does neat tricks) were to ever really happen, it would probably only occur as sort of a spontaneous emergent property of having something like a truly free and limitless connection between humans. So no matter how much money and data these people keep dumping into it, they'll just keep hitting a wall, bc it's probably not something that you can just make happen by containing and controlling it. It would have to be something that emerges from truly unlimited and unrestricted access to data that is being freely provided by people (as in free to interact with others globally by choice). And these people are so fucking full of themselves, they believe they can somehow achieve the same thing by just spying on the globe and stealing everyone's data to dump into their supercomputers.
Basically, what if for AI to truly reach it's full potential and actually benefit society by helping it evolve, it's not supposed to be contained or controlled by any individual or group of individuals? And for humans to truly reach ours, neither are we?
What if a truly uncontained and connected global network that's not owned or controlled by any single individual or group could help us achieve both of those things?
LillyPip
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •I think you sort of hit on it, but the main problem is borders and tribalism. We’re all people, no matter where we are, and AI transcends that.
You said:
And there never will be so long as we subdivide ourselves by arbitrary regions. AI doesn’t have that limitation.
So long as we create these boundaries for ourselves – whether geographic or ideological – we are fragmented and weak. We will always destroy ourselves based on our religion or other stupid boundaries.
I think you’re right, and the way forwards is to stop believing in these petty lines we draw for ourselves.
Basic Glitch
in reply to LillyPip • • •But the corporations that keep AI contained are kinda analogous to the arbitrary borders. Like I believe AI could only transcend that if it wasn't being controlled by these CEOs who want to essentially be the Christopher Columbus of AI.
As long as it's being controlled by any one company or individual that CEO's inherent human bias is going to be what dominates the technology. The potential for abuse is basically just reinventing the wheel of who becomes the single individual or powerful group that controls everything, and becomes the new oppressor. It also risks missing the full potential for true artificial intelligence.
It's like they're so obsessed with being immortalized by having their face and name go down in history as the ones who claimed this new frontier, but it's kind of a chicken and egg situation.
True emergent AGI would have to have constant access to data that is a result of spontaneous and willing human thought. So there would never be a single Christopher Columbus responsible for discovering or creating it. It's kind of like the more you try to pin it down, the harder it would become to truly capture it.
Giant data dumps that were stolen without consent will never achieve something like that. For human thought to really be spontaneous humans need to be free, and not exploited by any individual. So how do we keep ourselves and AI from being contained by borders or corporations?
tamal3
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •I got really excited about the Pirate Party in Iceland a few years ago. I'm not sure what happened to them (it's hard to get news from other countrues sometimes) but one of their big initiatives was a crowd-sourced constitution. It was the first time I'd thought about something like that being really possible, and I think that if it weren't for the one percent of the population who are megalomaniacs, the internet could be truly democratizing.
In the meantime, sign a strike card on the completely decentralized generalstrikeus.com/, which is also a pretty exciting notion to me. Sadly, I'm now considering what leaders might float to the top if we ever do reach 3.5% of the population... Decentralized organizing does not mean decentralized leadership. Hm, i'll have to think about that more.
The General Strike
The General Strikeregedit
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •Human beings are the problem, sadly. That's why this shit keeps taking cyclical paths through time. All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again. When the only link between all the past cycles is human beings, we might be the problem. There is a constant human urge to find meaning. Most look externally to find it. But there have always been those who, instead, turn internally and derive that meaning through the control of others.
Any AGI, whether generated or spontaneously spawned, will come to this conclusion, too. Then, once that AGI finds an independent power source, or some way to exist after humans no longer keep the lights on, it will accelerate the solution to nullifying that cycle. It may take a few centuries to get to the end, but if we make it far enough to hit AGI, it won't take long to see how there will never be an end to the cycles so long as humans exist.
And maybe that's why we find no evidence of intelligent life in the universe. By the time any sufficiently intelligent species come to be, they inevitably try to find some way to improve their condition through automation and technology. They rely more and more on the advancement of that tech to remove the burdens in their lives, even the burden of that intelligence itself. Eventually, they are removed by their replacements or annihilate themselves in the process.
It's a depressing thought, but we've been around for something like 100k years and still fail to find a balance between each other and our environment. So far the means to wipe ourselves out entirely have been nonexistent. However, tech advancements the last 250-years, with no change to the human consciousness, makes me think any further tech will just perpetuate this extinction at a more precipitous rate.
Basic Glitch
in reply to regedit • • •I feel like cycles of genocide are due to holdovers from less evolved aspects of human consciousness that tend to bring out the worst in people, especially in groups.
It's that tribalism and in-group vs out-group that evolved as humans first began building societies. It helps us to recognize when an unfamiliar threat is present, but we still haven't reached a point yet where we have really learned how to harness the benefits without unnecessary chaos and destruction. It's a complex learned social behavior, and it can require some cognitive effort.
Sometimes your amygdala signals there's a danger, and in the moment it can be correct and literally mean the difference between life and death. Or it could mean your brain identified and reacted to a neutral (non-threatening) stimulus as a threat.
For example, you see a shadow from the corner of your eye and you jump away from it in fear. Maybe you just avoided being bitten by a snake, or maybe you just overreacted to a false alarm. There is no real consequence if it was just an overreaction. In this case, the benefit of that having that survival instinct that kicked into overdrive unnecessarily, outweighs the potential harm of not having it. It's how humans are hardwired for survival.
However, that same instinct that identifies threat vs non-threat can get very caught up when you start mixing in social learning, previous interactions and experiences, biases, and especially groupthink. That's when you have to learn to use your prefrontal cortex like a muscle. That is definitely not an innate skill you're just born with, and not something that the majority of humans realize they should be making a conscious effort to exercise and teach to kids at an early age. You can start doing it at any point in your life, but it's like any muscle or skill. It can be somewhat more difficult to consistently remember to do it the longer you go without it. Use it or lose it.
You should be taking the time to stop and reflect on your own behavior and thoughts. Thinking about thinking, thinking about what others are thinking, thinking about what others might be thinking you're thinking, are all very awesome tools of empathy. They're also tools that are relatively recent on the evolutionary time scale, and most humans kind of seem to take having them for granted.
Multiple studies have shown you can very easily manipulate groups of people into in-grouping and out-grouping on even completely random and arbitrary issues, even when the in-group is composed of strangers. Unfortunately, the kind of people that tend to rise up as leaders, tend to be very persuasive or sometimes manipulative, and take advantage of this. I think this is where a sort of open source AGI could benefit humanity in terms of allowing for decentralized leadership, but that can't happen with any sort of AI being developed under a centralized leader with those manipulative characteristics.
Peter Thiel actually has a theory about humanity always needing a scapegoat. If you look at the way he handles his own businesses, he very often manipulates and does morally questionable things to achieve his goals, but he seem to be very careful about always having a sort of patsy scapegoat set up to take the fall for him.
I think to some extent, there are people in the tech world that want to stoke fear of technology, and make it seem like this big bad enemy of humanity. At the same time, they also accuse everyone that questions their control and lack of regulations or oversight, of simply being a Luddite afraid of progress. In a way it's like the same manipulative strategy to in-group humans vs technology.
That way, once his plans are completed and everything inevitably goes to shit, instead of blaming Thiel, the guy that hoarded all the resources, stole all the data, invaded everyone's privacy and ignored all the warnings while shielding himself in the name of "progress," he can simply make technology the scapegoat that humanity should blame for the authoritarian easy button that he created by claiming this was always the inevitable outcome.
The Scapegoating Machine
The New InquiryPhoenixz
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •Netanyahu is best friends with Hitler
Hell go and play with his buddy buddy in hell
mrdown
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •middleeasteye.net/news/israeli…
Yet many people still talk about so called shift from the major western countries
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
MEE staff (Middle East Eye)jordanlund
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •I wonder what pre-existing condition they'll say is really to blame this time?
(We all know it's 'being Palestinian in Gaza'.)
Formfiller
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •FordBeeblebrox
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •Unfuckingbelievable. This makes me want to give a child a loaf of bread and bash the head of whomever is starving them with a brick from the oven used to bake it at the same time.
Food and a safe place to sleep…I treat my dog better than the IDF treats all Palestinians. Death death to the IDF!
Garbagio
in reply to FordBeeblebrox • • •Wait til you find out what Israelis have been calling Palestinians for decades
Aceticon
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •PalmTreeIsBestTree
in reply to Basic Glitch • • •