Spotify peeved after 10,000 users sold data to build AI tools
Spotify sent a warning to stop data sales, but developers say they never got it.
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Trump EPA Seeks to Reverse Rules Protecting Drinking Water From Carcinogenic 'Forever Chemicals'
One environmental attorney said that the EPA proposal "prioritizes chemical industry profits and utility companies' bottom line over the health of children and families across the country."
Trump EPA Seeks to Reverse Rules Protecting Drinking Water From Carcinogenic 'Forever Chemicals'
One environmental attorney said that the EPA proposal "prioritizes chemical industry profits and utility companies' bottom line over the health of children and families across the country."brett-wilkins (Common Dreams)
‘Brain-like’ AI uses Chinese chips to run 100 times faster on ultra-long tasks
‘Brain-like’ AI said to run 100 times faster on ultra-long tasks using Chinese chips
SpikingBrain 1.0 mimics how the human brain fires only the neurons it needs, saving power and speeding up the response time, researchers say.Ling Xin (South China Morning Post)
Intel talent bleed continues as Xeon chip architect heads for the escape hatch
Ronak Singhal will be moving onto better and brighter opportunities at the end of the month
Intel talent bleed continues as Xeon chip architect heads for the escape hatch
: Ronak Singhal will be moving onto better and brighter opportunities at the end of the monthTobias Mann (The Register)
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Hasan Piker was set to debate Charlie Kirk. Now he's warning of a "Reichstag fire moment."
The streaming star on how to reject political violence while staying honest about Kirk's rhetoric.
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After nearly 70 years, a 100% Mexican-made airplane is cleared for takeoff
The Halcón 2.1 — 100% designed and manufactured in Mexico — has received certification to go into production.
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'We Took the Gloves Off': Former Israeli Military Chief Admits 220,000 Gaza Casualties
"Looking forward to the contortions of people whose paychecks are dependent on denying that any of this is the case," said one observer.
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In 'Latest Pro-Polluter Move,' Trump EPA to End Emissions Data Collection
Citing US President Donald Trump's anti-climate executive actions, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lee Zeldin unveiled a proposal to end a program that requires power plants, refineries, landfills, and more to report their emissions.
In 'Latest Pro-Polluter Move,' Trump EPA to End Emissions Data Collection
"EPA cannot avoid the climate crisis by simply burying its head in the sand as it baselessly cuts off its main source of greenhouse gas emissions data," said one Sierra Club campaigner.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
Newly Granted Nintendo Patents An ‘Embarrassing Failure’ By The USPTO, Says Patent Attorney
As you will hopefully recall, that very strange patent lawsuit between Nintendo and PocketPair over the latter’s hit game, Palworld, is ongoing. At the heart of that case is a series of overly broad patents for what are generally considered generic game mechanics that also have a bunch of prior art from before their use by Nintendo in its Pokémon games. These include concepts like throwing a capture item at an NPC to collect a character, as well as riding and mounting/dismounting NPCs in an open world setting. The result, even as the litigation is ongoing, has been PocketPair patching out several of these game mechanics from its game in order to protect itself. That it feels this is necessary as a result of these broad patents is unfortunate.
Newly Granted Nintendo Patents An ‘Embarrassing Failure’ By The USPTO, Says Patent Attorney
As you will hopefully recall, that very strange patent lawsuit between Nintendo and PocketPair over the latter’s hit game, Palworld, is ongoing. At the heart of that case is a series of overl…Techdirt
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A green Mexico under a gray United States
Environmentalism has fallen by the wayside in the U.S. Not so in Mexico, where several important protections are in place.
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The Socialist Politics of Tupac Shakur
Tupac Shakur was murdered 29 years ago today. His status as a cultural icon is beyond dispute, but the legend that’s built up around his tragically short life has often overshadowed the radical political outlook that shaped his work.
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Confirmed: Starmer knew about Mandelson's 'Yum Yum' Epstein messages when he defended him at PMQs
Paedophile's best mate Mandelson may receive compensation from public funds for 'wrongful dismissal' as ambassador
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New UN resolution sees 142 countries support recognition of a state of Palestine
UN resolution calls for an end to the war in the Gaza Strip and for a just and comprehensive settlement for Palestine
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Israel Is Targeting Civilians in Yemen as Well as Gaza
Israel claimed that its bombing of a cabinet meeting in Yemen last month struck a “crushing blow” against the Ansar Allah movement. But the movement’s real leaders were not affected by the strike, and they have vowed to continue their attacks on Israel.
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ActivityPub vs RSS Atom etc. Why Federate instead of aggrigate?
This post is inspired by this prior post about a blog leaving the fediverse in favor of sticking to RSS:
Why do we advocate for, and pour hours of development into, ActivityPub rather than building clients which add a social layer to existing content distribution and communication protocols? I ask this in earnest, assuming that there is a comprehensive and well thought out array of reasons that I need to learn to fully grasp the project and it's motives.
It appears the fundamental design decision of Activity pub, shifting the hosting burden from a single host to a distributed network of server instances and user point of access to social content from a single host to any instance that will allow them to join and support the volume of content that they request to federate. This enables a more robust network, with instances holding content the users have interacted with regardless of if the original host instance goes down. It also reduces time to load for content after it has beed federated to a user's local instance, assuming it is closer in proximity and capable enough. At the same time, this dramatically increases the total storage burden (and to a lesser extent compute burden) of the network and makes content ownership and control a challenge.
Functionally the Fediverse is a public commons with content ownership practically distributed across the network of instances, whether copyright says so or not. Attempts to impose universal author controls on this framework face a lot of dissonance because it is fundamentally at odds with the underlying concept of federation as distributed hosting. The minute a host begins hosting content over which they have no control (such as encrypted posts) the potential for abuse skyrockets, and compromises between these priorities demand at minimum that users outside a host's instance maintain rights to delete and modify content on their instance whether or not they are otherwise at odds with the instance admin. Encryption also adds substantial compute burden to the network.
Since the popularization of the Distributed Social Network concept I have wondered whether pre-existing content distribution infrastructure like RSS/Atom might not be more advantageous as a backbone for social networking, with the development load shifted mostly to the client side and away from protocols. The IndieWeb project is playing with some of these ideas, and I have seen some prototypes online of RSS based social networks, so my question is, what is the fundamental advantage of ActivityPub over the combination of these other existing protocols with longer histories and broader existing implementation? RSS, Atom, email, XMPP, etc. Is lower latency really a good enough justification for widely redundant data distribution when the aggregation and discovery of content can be handled separately from hosting it?
This question becomes increasingly relevant when it comes to multimedia, and the minute that you offload multimedia to central servers by link embedding instead of hosting within the instance, boom you are back to the old centralized architecture and why are you federating?
So I am going to pose this question to the Fediverse myself, what is the reason that federated content distribution should be adopted for general use rather than distributed aggregation? That is to say of a client performed with the same features as a Fediverse front end, but all of the content was self-hosted and listed via RSS or Atom with comments handled via Webmention, direct messages via email or XMPP, and moderation and discivery handled at the level of aggregation via instances (meaning a user "joins" or "subscribes" to an instance, and that instance provides a ban list, list of feeds subscribed to by its users for discovery, provides a user directory) what would be the features that this type of system would lack that ActivityPub based systems have in place?
There are three advantages I see to AcrivityPub, and I'm not completely sure they justify mass adoption vs. the cost of broad redundancy of content and authorship issues. What am I missing?
- Choosing local instance for faster loading, but this only is an advantage after content is brought in for the first time, in which case it actually is slower as first the instance has to pull the content and then serve it to the user.
- "all" content in the protocol is of the same type, allowing for easier interoperability between clients and services. I'm thinking this is the root of what most people will say is the big advantage of ActivityPub vs. older protocols, but I'd like to hear more about why this is enough of a reason to overcome the inertia of existing mass adoption and support of the alternatives. Also, couldn't this also apply to a service built on an existing self-hosted protocol like Atom?
- It isn't based in XML, and modern devs don't want to use XML. As I'm not a coder, I cant say how big an influence this has, but from what I have seen it seems to be a substantial factor. Can anyone explain why?
What am I missing? I know it must be a lot, and I thank you in advance for cluing me in.
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UN expert warns of threat global inequality poses to human rights
A UN expert on Friday warned of the threat to human rights posed by growing economic inequality between the North and South, in a meeting at the 60th session of the Human Rights Council.
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UN expert warns of threat global inequality poses to human rights
A UN expert on Friday warned of the threat to human rights posed by growing economic inequality between the North and South, in a meeting at the 60th session of the Human Rights Council. The independe...Lowri Thomas | New York U. School of Law, US (- JURIST - News)
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European aid flotilla sails to Gaza with four MEPs aboard
Ships setting sail from Italy have joined others from Greece, Spain and Tunisia, to deliver humanitarian aid into the Gaza strip.
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European aid flotilla sails to Gaza with four MEPs aboard
Ships setting sail from Italy have joined others from Greece, Spain and Tunisia, to deliver humanitarian aid into the Gaza strip.Vincenzo Genovese (Euronews.com)
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Seattle citizens protest the lack of bus lanes by "racing" the 8 bus in the silliest ways possible
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Toxic “forever chemicals” found in 95% of beers tested in the U.S.
Forever chemicals known as PFAS have turned up in an unexpected place: beer. Researchers tested 23 different beers from across the U.S. and found that 95% contained PFAS, with the highest concentrations showing up in regions with known water contamination. The findings reveal how pollution in municipal water supplies can infiltrate popular products, raising concerns for both consumers and brewers.
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Investigation reveals Starmer's general secretary's marriage to Israeli arms lobbyist
Hollie Ridley and Teddy Ryan - the arms industry 'power couple'? Well, that certainly seems that way as a Declassified investigation shows
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9 arrests for violent fascists attacking police - 900 for grannies and disabled people holding placards
Can you say two-tier policing, Home Secretary? Because it seems that cops response to the Unite The Kingdom march was... odd...
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New 'Thought Policing' Bill May Let Rubio Strip Passports from US Citizens Over Political Speech
Free speech advocates fear a new bill could let the Secretary of State strip passports from US citizens based on their speech. "Rubio has claimed the power to designate people terrorist supporters based solely on what they think and say," one said.
New 'Thought Policing' Bill May Let Rubio Strip Passports from US Citizens Over Political Speech
“Marco Rubio has claimed the power to designate people terrorist supporters based solely on what they think and say,” said one free speech advocate.stephen-prager (Common Dreams)
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Modder injects AI dialogue into 2002’s Animal Crossing using memory hack
Unofficial mod lets classic Nintendo GameCube title use AI chatbots with amusing results.
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Discord Says Tyler Robinson Didn't Use Platform in Charlie Kirk Murder Plan
Discord Says Tyler Robinson Didn't Use Platform in Charlie Kirk Murder Plan
Discord was not used by Tyler Robinson to either plan the murder of Charlie Kirk or to hide the evidence ... TMZ has learned.TMZ Staff (TMZ)
The wife of Florida's surgeon general claims her husband won’t work with anyone she hasn’t vetted. A leading vaccine skeptic, she believes “dark forces” are targeting her family with chemtrails
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Guided by angels, pursued by chemtrails: the weird world of Florida health chief’s influential wife
Brianna Ladapo, the wife of Florida surgeon general Dr Joseph Ladapo, claims her husband won’t work with anyone she hasn’t vettedMichael Sainato (The Guardian)
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‘Don’t Patronize Us’: Data Center Charm Offensive Irks Opponents in Rural Georgia
‘Don’t Patronize Us’: Data Center Charm Offensive Irks Opponents in Rural Georgia - DeSmog
San Francisco-based developers launch publicity drive to soothe local concerns over giant project.Edward Donnelly (DeSmog)
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Zohran Mamdani says as mayor he would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he traveled to New York
Zohran Mamdani says as mayor he would arrest Benjamin Netanyahu if he traveled to New York
Mayoral candidate said he’d try to honor ICC warrant for Israeli prime minister’s arrest over war crimesRamon Antonio Vargas (The Guardian)
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Nick Fuentes says he is 'being framed for Charlie Kirk murder; Tyler Robinson a 'Groyper'?
Alt-right white nationalist says he’s ‘being framed’ for Charlie Kirk’s murder: ‘These people are pure evil’
According to reports, Tyler Robinson is believed to be a “Groyper,” a term used to identify a follower of Nick Fuentes.Brian Linder | blinder@pennlive.com (al)
Texas State fires professor accused of trying to incite political violence in video
The video circulated on X cuts one portion of Alter’s speech in half, during which he criticized “insurrectional anarchists” for their method of protesting, urging organization into a party to better reach people. In the full speech posted on YouTube, he notes that some anarchists have faced jail time for their methods of protest, praising their efforts but questioning whether they can achieve their goals.
“While their actions are laudable, it should be asked, to what purpose do they serve?” Alter said during his speech, which is not included in the video posted on X. The second portion of his statement is included. “Without organization, how can anyone expect to overthrow the most bloodthirsty, profit-driven, mad organization in the history of the world — that of the United States?”
Texas State professor fired for comments at socialism meeting
Thomas Alter is the second professor in the state to be terminated for allegedly violating university policy after a video was posted on social media.Ayden Runnels (The Texas Tribune)
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Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t Either.
Opinion - Jamelle Bouie
Sept. 13, 2025, 11:23 a.m. ET
The best way to honor Charlie’s memory,” Gov. Gavin Newsom of California declared, “is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.”Kirk’s approach, wrote the editors of Politico’s Playbook, “was to persuade, to use charm and charisma and provocation and the power of argument to convince people of the righteousness of his cause.”
There is no doubt that Kirk was influential, no doubt that he had millions of devoted fans. But it is difficult to square this idealized portrait of Kirk as model citizen with the man as he was.
Few if any of them have seen fit to mention the fact that Kirk’s first act on the national stage was to create a McCarthyite watchlist...
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination.html
Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t Either.
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/36107835
Opinion - Jamelle Bouie
Sept. 13, 2025, 11:23 a.m. ETThe best way to honor Charlie’s memory,” Gov. Gavin Newsom of California declared, “is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.”Kirk’s approach, wrote the editors of Politico’s Playbook, “was to persuade, to use charm and charisma and provocation and the power of argument to convince people of the righteousness of his cause.”
There is no doubt that Kirk was influential, no doubt that he had millions of devoted fans. But it is difficult to square this idealized portrait of Kirk as model citizen with the man as he was.
Few if any of them have seen fit to mention the fact that Kirk’s first act on the national stage was to create a McCarthyite watchlist...
Charlie Kirk Didn’t Shy Away From Who He Was. We Shouldn’t Either.
Opinion - Jamelle Bouie
Sept. 13, 2025, 11:23 a.m. ETThe best way to honor Charlie’s memory,” Gov. Gavin Newsom of California declared, “is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse.”Kirk’s approach, wrote the editors of Politico’s Playbook, “was to persuade, to use charm and charisma and provocation and the power of argument to convince people of the righteousness of his cause.”
There is no doubt that Kirk was influential, no doubt that he had millions of devoted fans. But it is difficult to square this idealized portrait of Kirk as model citizen with the man as he was.
Few if any of them have seen fit to mention the fact that Kirk’s first act on the national stage was to create a McCarthyite watchlist...
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/13/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination.html
GitHub - DMS3tv/Open-Omega: The open source info and files for my project Omega headphones
Open omega is my attempt at making a passive dynamic headphone that closely adhere's to the DF-HRTF of the B&K 4128C with a 10db downward slope from 20hz-20khz. The headphone was originally designed to be made via SLS. I've simplified elements of the design and assembly, making it easier to build at home. Video instructions and more info: youtu.be/d9SyIJi44J4
GitHub - DMS3tv/Open-Omega: The open source info and files for my project Omega headphones
The open source info and files for my project Omega headphones - DMS3tv/Open-OmegaGitHub
Last week, Nintendo and The Pokémon Company received a U.S. patent on summoning a character and letting it fight another
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Last week, Nintendo and The Pokémon Company received a U.S. patent on summoning a character and letting it fight another
Always remember:Fuck Copyright
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The Guardian Retracts Their Coverage of the Shooter Being a Leftist
Cross-posted from "The Guardian Retracts Their Coverage of the Shooter Being a Leftist" by @livejamie@lemmy.zip in !chapotraphouse@hexbear.net
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NY Post alleges Kirk killer lived with transgender roommate
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In a separate article, they also state quote Cox as saying he was ‘deeply indoctrinated with leftist ideology’ during a “preliminary investigation”.
However, I cannot find anything corroborating either of these statements outside these two articles.
Charlie Kirk's alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source
That individual, who has yet to be identified by the authorities, is now fully cooperating with the FBI on its investigation into the fatal shooting of the conservative activist, the source added.Josh Christenson (New York Post)
Pino Daniele — Nero a metà (1980)
Dopo la pubblicazione di “Terra mia” del 1977 e la conferma con l’album “Omonimo” del 1979, Pino Daniele pubblica “Nero a metà” il disco che lo consacrerà definitivamente al grande pubblico.
Daniele ha venticinque anni ma ha già una buona esperienza come strumentista suona, infatti, dall’età di dodici anni e ha già militato in diversi gruppi partenopei compresi i Napoli Centrale... Leggi e ascolta...
Pino Daniele — Nero a metà (1980)
Dopo la pubblicazione di “Terra mia” del 1977 e la conferma con l’album “Omonimo” del 1979, Pino Daniele pubblica “Nero a metà” il disco che lo consacrerà definitivamente al grande pubblico. Daniele ha venticinque anni ma ha già una buona esperienza come strumentista suona, infatti, dall’età di dodici anni e ha già militato in diversi gruppi partenopei compresi i Napoli Centrale. Pino Daniele come Napoli, possiede in questo disco una doppia anima, romantica la prima, ritmica la seconda, nervose e soleggiate entrambe... silvanobottaro.it/archives/366…
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Best 5 IPTV Streaming Services — Top Channels & Endless VOD Entertainment
Tired of expensive cable packages and looking for a more flexible way to watch your favorite content? IPTV (Internet Protocol Television) services are becoming increasingly popular in 2025, offering an alternative way to stream live TV channels and on-demand content. After extensive testing, I’ve put together this guide to help you navigate the top options available today.
What Makes a Great IPTV Service?
Before diving into specific providers, let’s understand what separates the best from the rest:
Stream Quality — From standard definition to crystal-clear 8K resolution
Channel Selection — Local, international, premium, and specialty options
Device Compatibility — Works with your Firestick, smart TV, phone, or tablet
Customer Support — Responsive help when things inevitably go wrong
Fair Pricing — Transparent subscription options without hidden fees
Easy Setup — From tech novices to experts, how simple is it to get started?
Reliability — Consistent performance with minimal buffering or downtime
Top 5 IPTV Services Compared
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PremIPTV stands out with its extensive channel lineup and reliable streaming quality. Their service excels particularly for sports enthusiasts, offering comprehensive coverage of major leagues and events globally.
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Setup requires some basic technical knowledge
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As the name suggests, IPTV8K focuses on delivering ultra-high-definition content where available. Their service is ideal for viewers with premium displays who prioritize visual quality.
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Impressive movie and VOD library with frequent updates
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Premium quality comes with a higher price point
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Don’t confuse this with the previous entry! 8K IPTV offers a solid middle-ground option with a good balance of quality, selection, and affordability.
Strengths:
Most budget-friendly option without major compromises
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App interface feels less polished than competitors
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IPTV GSE focuses on providing a seamless experience across the widest range of devices, making it perfect for households with varied tech ecosystems.
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Channel organization could use improvement
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Setup process is more complex than some competitors
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in reply to Pro • • •Here is the patent if someone is interested:
freepatentsonline.com/12403397…
Storage medium, information processing system, information processing apparatus, and game processing method
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in reply to Karyoplasma • • •Thanks. For everyone not used to reading patents - only the claims are relevant. To infringe, someone else needs to do exactly the same as they describe.
Claim 1:
wizardbeard
in reply to troed • • •So... in more readable English, they patented how you can send a Pokemon out to run around with you, and if you throw it directly at an enemy it can start a standard battle where you control your Pokemon, otherwise it automatically paths to the enemy for an autobattle.
That's a little more specific than just summoning characters, but still absolutely bullshit to be able to patent. I'm sure there's prior work that should disqualify this, they just couched it in such overly technical terms they can act like it's novel.
troed
in reply to wizardbeard • • •The technical terms are actually how all patents are written, so nothing special there. I don't approve of things like this being patentable at all, but I actually expect this to be novel the way it's written.
However, no one needs to infringe upon it - it's trivial to change something ever so slightly so as to not do exactly what's described here.
Die4Ever
in reply to troed • • •A video game. Lol
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in reply to Die4Ever • • •Luke
in reply to Pro • • •NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to Luke • • •I ANAL and am not a lawyer.
The verbiage on this is RIDICULOUSLY specific (as patents generally should be) to the point that I refused to even pass the PDF through an OCR system and instead will trust that site's transcription
All of those criteria must be met for this trap card to be triggered (shit... Yugioh lawyers getting revved up now).
Step 4 specifically covers the case where you summon your little guy to fight someone else. As worded, that actually would impact a Summon in every JRPG and Final Fantasy just got sweaty. Step 5 summons a character as an assist or to replace the main character in a fight (so.. Pokemon).
What I find most interesting is that step 6 specifically says "automatic battle". Which... to my Not A Lawyer brain, means this doesn't even cover Pokemon since you specifically give your mons battle commands. Err, aside from S01E01 Pikachu who did not give a fuck. And then Charizard. And probably a dozen more pokemons after I stopped watching The Son Of Mr Mime's Adventures. But, from what little I saw of it, it DOES cover Palworld where you just summon your pals to do work for you or fight for you. And it potentially covers Final Fantasy and Ichiban's Like a Dragons (the Poundmates, not the Sujimon)...
Which is probably the most interesting thing and why I think Pokemon Co is going to be ridiculously selective of who they try to sue. Because any of the big hitters can just say "Dumbfucks, we were doing this before Game Freak even existed". Whereas indie devs are small enough they don't want to risk it.
It might be worth keeping an eye on MinnMax as Haley MacLean IS a lawyer who actually specializes in video game IP but I suspect this is too close to her day job for her to publicly speak about it even with the "not legal advice" disclaimers. Which hopefully guarantees she actually talked about it on one of the podcasts this week and I just haven't looked yet.
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in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •frongt
in reply to Glide • • •The US changed from first-to-invent to first-to-file years ago. It sounds bad, but I don't think it's meaningfully affected anything. I haven't heard of any impacts, anyway.
NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to frongt • • •If you are thinking in terms of building a widget or making an industrial process, it makes perfect sense. Something like a wristwatch is the kind of innovation a LOT of people more or less simultaneously made and it is just impossible to definitively prove what country the first watch was made in. Even figuring out who was the first to file becomes a mess. Same with factory processes where the players who would even have the ability to iterate are often counted on fingers and toes.
But software (and research) in a global society is a real mother fucker. Because now the entire world can more or less see everything and reproducing things is fairly trivial. And... it isn't like the patents actually matter all that much when so much gets done overseas. China Don't Care but also the EU doesn't really either and so forth. Sure there are avenues to try to pursue a studio using the patented Nemesis System but... at best you are going to be tied up in courts for years trying to get a judge to insist that a company in Germany needs to send you a check.
NuXCOM_90Percent
in reply to Glide • • •For the exact same reason that "fair use" is still so incredibly nebulous and twitch streaming/let's plays still exist.
NOBODY is crazy enough to want to take that to the courts. Because maybe you get a judge who has "common sense". Maybe you get an old white guy who thinks Pong was too complicated and decides that you are wrong. At which point you have now made a bunch of legal precedent for REALLY stupid stuff.
Its also kind of why so much stuff about video games actually never gets patented. It is playing with fire.
skulblaka
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in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •I just finished the demo of the upcoming Digimon game, and all of those points absolutely apply to it. But something tells me we're not going to see Nintendo going after Bandai Namco any time soon.
And to your point about directed vs. non-directed battling, the most recent Pokemon games definitely have a system where you can be running around the over world, see Pokemon wandering around, and have your little guys pop out and go fuck them up.
OddMinus1
in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •For what it's worth, the battle mechanics of pokemon scarlet and violet is as follows:
You can throw your pokeball to an empty spot to have your pokemon walk along with you. It will then automatically fight other wild pokemon in the overworld through extremely simple mechanics, which doesn't require any actions from you. If you instead throw your pokeball directly at the wild pokemon, you end up in a normal, classical battle with that pokemon.
So it sounds like it's specifically those mechanics that they are patenting, which has a significant overlap with Palworld.
It's bullshit that this is a patent, and I know nothing of the system, but I find it completely idiotic if this will allow them to retroactively make legal claims against a game which was released before the patent was created.
Goodlucksil
in reply to NuXCOM_90Percent • • •Iirc Scarlet and Violet (latest generation of Pokemon) have an option for autobattling.
zabadoh
in reply to Luke • • •Good thinking!
Microprose MTG came out in 1997, one year after Pokemon in 1996, but that was in Japan as Pokemon Red/Green.
Pokemon Red/Blue was released in the US in 1998.
So in the US technically, Microprose published first.
I have no idea who owns Microprose's IP these days.
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this is out of line again from nintendo. why does no one push back?
sp3ctr4l
in reply to chinoswirls • • •Because there basically is no democratic method to influence what the Patent Office does.
Patent Office -> Department of Commerce -> President
Even without the current fascist in charge of the Executive branch... basically, the President would have to direct the Patent Office specifically, via Executive Order, or by firing it's head or other staff, or writing some kind of memorandum to give it some new kind of guidelines or specifically reject or approve a particular patent.
Barring that... someone or some entity has to either sue the Patent Office... or just sue over the patent infringement itself and try to argue up to a Circuit Court or the Supreme Court that the patent itself is ... dubious, in some kind of specific legal way that I do not know the word for.
sp3ctr4l
in reply to Pro • • •Ok so...
Ridiculous, but possible loophole to this:
Stream the game over a network, from further away than your local wifi.
Or, ... uh... just the... 'PokeBattle' part... of the game.
Make that into a client-server type architecture.
The only references to networking in the patent are for Wifi LAN and a Switch 2 directly talking to another Switch 2, and this is only done to describe really the Switch 2 itself, without reference in that section to the 'non-transitory storage medium' which substantially comprises the basal step of the active functioning process which is being patented.
The 'non-transitory storage medium' itself is specified as the microsd card that goes into a Switch 2... but it seems that generally, this would seem to (???) cover any sort of persistent storage media/medium.
So... if you throw a non local network into this process... the relevant code/concept now goes through another step, networking or netcode, does not actually exist in or on the device's 'non-transitory storage medium' nor propogate throughout the rest of the computer sysyem in the manner described by the patent, which makes no reference to networking in the description of the functional process, which is based around the concept of the executed game code originating from non-transitory storage which is physically present in thr device...
... and is thus arguably a susbtantially different concept/process.
... and/or I have lost my mind.
4am
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in reply to 4am • • •I really have no idea.
And that's saying something, because I wrote a few papers, on the DMCA in particular, as well as how the copyright/patent system works (and should probably be reformed) specifically irt to computer software, whilst getting a BSc in Econ and a BA in Poli Sci...
... and ...
... just fuck all this, its so fucking obvious that the system is in so many ways just designed to work only for entities with stupendous amounts of money.