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Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner purchase kernel-level root access to your computer via purchase of Electronics Arts and their kernel anti-cheat


The updated rootkit will be uploaded and installed to your computer kernel automatically upon closure of the deal.

::: spoiler I posted this to /c/news where it was promptly removed of course
For good reasons of course


:::

https://apnews.com/article/ea-electronic-arts-video-game-silver-lake-pif-d17dc7dd3412a990d2c0a6758aaa6900

in reply to interdimensionalmeme

It's not hard to see why the post was deleted on the other comm, the mods there take editorializing very seriously, you especially crossed that line with the FUD headline and post.

The updated rootkit will be uploaded and installed to your computer kernel automatically upon closure of the deal.


This isn't in defense of EA, and I'm aware of their anti-cheats and many like it having kernel-level access, but how do you know this? Where is this coming from? How will it be magically installed once the deal is closed? When will it be installed? Who's to say it hasn't been "installed" already, years long before any of this deal thing came up? Would you have come up with that conclusion if Saudi Arabia's PIF wasn't part of the deal/mentioned in the article? Does this apply to every single EA game from their catalogue (IIRC some games aren't locked-in to the Origin client)?

If these questions are difficult to answer, then there's your problem.

in reply to Samsuma

How will it be installed once the deal closes?


Assuming default settings, the EA App runs a background service with elevated privileges (often as TrustedInstaller on Windows), and automatic updates are enabled by default. That means:

  • No user action is required for software updates, including those that install kernel-mode drivers.
  • Kernel-level components can be silently updated or extended through routine game patches or EA App updates.
  • Any newly introduced or modified driver (e.g., an anti-cheat update) would be signed by EA, but users are not alerted to the depth of the update unless they manually inspect it, which is virtually impossible given the encrypted/proprietary nature of the codebase.

So, once the acquisition closes, any architectural changes to anti-cheat or telemetry mechanisms can be deployed silently as part of routine patching cycles. This does not require a new game release or user intervention.

Has it already been installed?


This is a fair assumption under standard security threat modeling practices.

  • EA has already shipped kernel-level drivers (e.g., EAAntiCheat.sys) since 2023, and these are typically installed alongside online multiplayer titles such as EA Sports FC and Battlefield 2042.
  • These drivers run with the highest system-level privileges, and the EA App has full access to update them.
  • The compiled binaries are not open-source, not auditable, and may include encrypted segments or obfuscated logic, meaning users and third parties have no reliable way to verify what the software is actually doing.

Security best practices assume that any installed kernel-level driver is capable of full system access, including:
- Reading any file or memory region
- Installing persistence mechanisms
- Monitoring user input
- Communicating externally, including via encrypted channels

So yes, if you’ve installed a modern EA game, the capability is already there. The only real change under a new ownership model is intent.

Could this be a concern if the acquirer wasn’t Saudi Arabia’s PIF?


The kernel-level threat model doesn’t change based on ownership, the capabilities remain the same. But the motivations and likely use cases absolutely do.

It is a factual and well-documented reality that Saudi Arabia is:
- An authoritarian regime with little tolerance for dissent
- Known for surveillance and digital repression (including use of spyware such as Pegasus)
- Responsible for state violence, including the murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi
- Building a significant intelligence and cyber operations apparatus under the guise of technological investment

In that context, PIF’s ownership of a widely installed, privileged software platform, with millions of endpoints and baked-in telemetry infrastructure, is not just theoretical risk, it’s an active national security concern.

It’s reasonable to assume that whatever institutional restraint EA may have had about using anti-cheat for more than gameplay integrity may now be loosened, or removed entirely.

Does this apply to all EA games? Is it properly disclosed?


EA claims that kernel-level anti-cheat is used "selectively", primarily in high-profile online multiplayer titles. However:
- There is no centralized or transparent disclosure list showing which games install kernel drivers.
- The EA App and installers do not consistently warn users at install time that a kernel-level driver will be added to their system.
- Detection is only possible after installation, by manually inspecting the installed drivers or using tools like Autoruns, Process Hacker, or Sigcheck.

So while it’s technically true that not all EA games use kernel anti-cheat, the lack of disclosure and difficulty in verifying makes it functionally impossible for the average user to know which games are safe, especially given the bundled update system that can install new software silently at any time.

Games purchased outside the EA App (e.g., on Steam or Epic) often still require the EA launcher to run, meaning kernel drivers can still be deployed through those channels.

in reply to dev_null

really ? the post doesn't strike me as AI tbh
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in reply to Hadriscus

It's AI, the tell tale sign is the use of bullet points.

That doesn't give /u/dev_null any credibility but they like to be a good little boy that yaps at clouds, cars and AI.

In this case user /u/Samsuma was unsatisfied with my regular meandering writing style so I reformatted my points into a more semantically coherent package to undermine any possible pedants to come in and complain about misplaced commas and semi-colons and start legislating what the meaning of "is" is.

I'm quite confident the logic here in unassailable, and that's why /u/dev_null didn't have anything to say but complain about the formatting while being unable to address the substance of my comment.

And nobody can "tell" AI text. You can make it adopt any writing style, the only thing people like /u/dev_null have to go on is em dashes, bullet points and "purple" turn of phrases, which, if I'd really care to get these synthophobes off the scent, I would have, but I was more concerned about giving /u/Samsuma the tightest response I could without spending too long on it.

Because of people /u/dev_null just prowling the internet, I do recommend any AI user simply not disclose AI use, gaslight synthophobes into thinking AI text is not AI, inserting em dashes and bullet points into non-AI text and generally being hostile to people like that because they're really insufferable.

The reason I'm telling you all this is so that /u/dev_null knows they can duck off and the more they try to bully me the more undetectable I'm going to make it, there's really not going to be any winner for anyone trying to antagonize me.

in reply to dev_null

Where is the slop? That usually implies inaccurate information and/or sloppy sentences or word structure.
in reply to dev_null

If you're not going to address the contents then I'm putting you on my blocklist
in reply to interdimensionalmeme

Personally, I would've preferred you responded with xenophobic slurs targeted at Arabs like me than with whatever LLM answer this is supposed to be, but you do you I guess. I would've almost taken you seriously... almost.

So here, let me throw a random ass quote at you:

And so, indeed, is the Orientalist attitude in general [referring to a quote by shitlib Isaiah Berlin]. It shares with magic and with mythology the self-containing, self-reinforcing character of a closed system, in which objects are what they are because they are what they are, for once, for all time, for ontological reasons that no empirical material can either dislodge or alter. The European encounter with the Orient, and specifically with Islam, strengthened this system of representing the Orient and, as has been suggested by Henri Pirenne, turned Islam into the very epitome of an outsider against which the whole of European civilization from the Middle Ages on was founded. The decline of the Roman Empire as a result of the barbarian invasions had the paradoxical effect of incorporating barbarian ways into Roman and Mediterranean culture, Romania; whereas, Pirenne argues, the consequence of the Islamic invasions beginning in the seventh century was to move the center of European culture away from the Mediterranean, which was then an Arab province, and towards the North.


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in reply to interdimensionalmeme

Windows already has a rootkit on your computer. It's called Microsoft CoPilot and Recall.
Giving up things that hurt you shouldn't be hard, when there are far better alternatives to Windows and EA.


df showing a full (99%) ssd, but du only showing a fraction of that? UPDATED


I noticed the root drive of my home server (Debian) is at 99% capacity, which was odd to be because I don't store anything on the root ssd. sudo df -h confirms that 99% of my 256gb drive is full. But sudo du -sh * all added up, only comes to about 30gb.

This is a pc that only runs docker containers and one virtual machine for home assistant. And yes I have restarted, Any ideas as to how to find the missing 200+ gigabytes?

EDIT: sudo ncdu allowed me to find a 72gb [long string of characterless]-json.log file in /var/lib/docker/containers and many 1gb+ files in /var/lib/docker/overlay2. I'm not sure what to do with this information (or what's safe to delete) but I'm getting somewhere.

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in reply to Jediwan

Where are you running du -sh *? (I.e. what directory, are you definitely scanning the whole file system?) I'm sure it's obvious, but can never hurt to check!

What does du -sh / show? (Generally, the * glob pattern in the shell will not match hidden dot-files, so is it possible they are being excluded?)

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in reply to lucas

EDIT sudo ncdu allowed me to find a 72gb [long string of characterless]-json.log file in /var/lib/docker/containers and many 1gb+ files in /var/lib/docker/overlay2. I'm not sure what to do with this information (or what's safe to delete) but I'm getting somewhere.

~~sudo du -sh / shows a list of three du: cannot access '/run/user/1000/gvfs' Permission denied and du: cannot access No such file or directory and a few cannot read directory invalid argument and at the end it shows 5.4T / which I assume is my root drive combined with what's in mnt.~~

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in reply to Jediwan

If you're using BTRFS, check if you don't have any stray snapshots.


North Korea to further strengthen ties with China, foreign minister says


The countries are traditional allies but their relationship has been complex and strained at times.


Archived version: archive.is/newest/straitstimes…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.




Tile’s lack of encryption could make tracker owners vulnerable to stalking


Its anti-stalking features are reportedly too easy to circumvent.



Skyrim Grandma is Retiring Again


The popular Skyrim Grandma reveals that she is retiring from YouTube once again after returning to her channel earlier this year.



Venezuela's Maduro grants military additional authority in case of invasion


Venezuelan President Nicolas Madura signed a decree increasing his authority over the military and certain public services, the Venezuelan VP said on Monday. The US has recently deployed warships in the Caribbean, leading Maduro's government to respond as if to an "undeclared war."


Archived version: archive.is/20250929224840/fran…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.



Three EU states paid more for Russian LNG than they gave to Ukraine


Some EU member states paid more for Russian LNG than they gave in financial support for Ukraine, a new report by Greenpeace Belgium shows. With that €8bn Russia could have bought 270,000 Shahed attack drones.


Archived version: archive.is/newest/euobserver.c…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.



Afghanistan hit by internet blackout as Taliban cuts fibre optic cables


Phone and internet connections are down nationwide after the Taliban cut fibre-optic connections to prevent "immorality".


Archived version: archive.is/20250929214715/bbc.…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.




YouTube agrees to pay Trump $24 million to settle lawsuit over Jan. 6 suspension


YouTube will pay $24.5 million to President Trump to resolve a 2021 lawsuit that claimed he was the victim of censorship when the site suspended his account following the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol by Trump's supporters, according to federal court papers filed on Monday.


Case file: s3.documentcloud.org/documents…

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Sheinbaum announces expanded seed bank protection for Mexico's 64 corn varieties


The announcement is part of a larger agricultural program dubbed "Sin maíz no hay país," which aims to support corn producers.


Archived version: archive.is/newest/mexiconewsda…


Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.




Linus Torvalds Removes The Bcachefs Code From The Linux Kernel


in reply to John

Definitely not going anywhere near the comments section on that phoronix article. It's guaranteed to be pure poison.
in reply to jaxxed

Tbh, what phoronix comment section isn't pure neurological poison?
in reply to John

Kent is such a dumbass. It's a pitty because it's a great filesystem.


Proposition 50: Authorizes Temporary Changes to Congressional District Maps in Response to Texas’ Partisan Redistricting. Legislative Constitutional Amendment. [NOV 05 2025 | California]


cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/36665946

Proposition 50


Authorizes Temporary Changes to Congressional District Maps in Response to Texas’ Partisan Redistricting. Legislative Constitutional Amendment.


ANALYSIS OF MEASURE
BACKGROUND
U.S. Congress


U.S. Congress. The U.S. Congress is the part of the federal government that makes laws. Congress has two parts: the U.S. Senate and the U.S. House of Representatives (House). Each of the 50 states is represented by 2 senators, with 100 senators in total. The House has 435 members. The number of representatives in the House for each state depends on how many people live in that state. Each member in the House represents an area of the state called a congressional district. California currently has 52 congressional districts. Voters who live in each congressional district elect one member of the House every two years to represent them. The next election for all 435 representatives will be in 2026.

U.S. Census Counts States’ Populations Every Ten Years. The number of people living in an area goes up and down over time. Every ten years, the U.S. Census counts the number of people who live in the U.S. The last census was in 2020, and the next census is in 2030. This count is used to determine how many people live in each state and how many representatives in the House each state gets for the next ten years.

Congressional Redistricting

Each State Draws Congressional District Maps Following the U.S. Census. Every ten years, after the U.S. Census is completed, states draw new congressional district maps to reflect their number of House representatives and where people live. This process is called “redistricting.” Each state decides what process to use to draw its new district maps. When drawing new maps, each state must follow federal laws. For example, each congressional district in the state must represent about the same number of people.

States Typically Do Not Redistrict Sooner Than Every Ten Years. States typically only draw congressional district maps every ten years, unless a court orders changes to comply with the law. In August 2025, however, the Texas Legislature passed a bill to adopt new maps for the 2026 elections without a court order. Several other states also are considering changes to their maps before the 2026 elections.

Congressional Redistricting in California. State legislatures draw congressional district maps in most states, but some states use commissions to do this job. Before 2010, the California Legislature drew the state’s congressional district maps. In 2010, California voters gave this job to an independent commission known as the California Citizens Redistricting Commission (Commission). The Commission includes 14 members: 5 Democratic members, 5 Republican members, and 4 members who are not registered with either of those political parties. When the Commission draws new congressional district maps, it must follow federal and state laws. For example, state law requires, among other things, the Commission to avoid splitting up neighborhoods or local communities of interest to the extent possible. State law also prohibits the Commission from considering political parties, current office holders, or people running for office when it draws the maps.

Current California Congressional Districts. The Commission drew the current maps for California’s 52 congressional districts. These maps were based on the 2020 U.S. Census and have been used since the 2022 congressional elections.

PROPOSAL


California’s Congressional District Maps

Use Legislatively Drawn Congressional District Maps Until After the Next Census. Proposition 50 replaces California’s current congressional district maps with new, legislatively drawn maps. (The total number of districts would not change.) Proposition 50’s maps must follow federal law, but they are not required to follow the state requirements placed on the Commission. The state would use Proposition 50’s maps for congressional elections starting in 2026. The state would use these maps until the Commission draws new district maps, following the 2030 U.S. Census.

National Congressional Redistricting

Call for Change in Federal Law. Proposition 50 asks the U.S. Congress to change federal law and propose an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to require redistricting be done by “fair, independent, and nonpartisan redistricting commissions nationwide.” Proposition 50 expresses voter support for this idea, but does not change federal law or require any particular action of Congress or the California Legislature.

FISCAL EFFECTS

Minor One-Time Costs to County and State Elections Officials. Counties run elections, and the state oversees them. Because most congressional districts in California would change at least some under the new maps, county and state elections officials would need to update election materials. This would result in one-time costs to counties of up to a few million dollars statewide and one-time costs to the state of roughly $200,000. The state amount is much less than one-tenth of 1 percent (0.1 percent) of the state’s roughly $220 billion General Fund budget. (The General Fund is the account the state uses to pay for most public services, including education, health care, and prisons.)

CURRENT AND PROPOSED CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT MAPS

This section shows maps of the current and proposed congressional districts (1) statewide, as shown in Figures 1 and 2; (2) in the northern part of the state, as shown in Figures 3 and 4; and (3) in the southern part of the state, as shown in Figures 5 and 6. A description of the census blocks represented by each district in the proposed maps can be found at the following website: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fac…

Figure 1 - Current Congressional Districts

Notice of Correction. Figure 2 in the analysis of Proposition 50 contained a typographical error. District 27, which is to the right of District 26, was incorrectly labeled as District 22. This typographical error has been corrected.

Figure 2 - Proposed Congressional Districts

Figure 3 - Current Northern Congressional Districts

Figure 4 - Proposed Northern Congressional Districts

Figure 5 - Current Southern Congressional Districts

Figure 6 - Proposed Southern Congressional Districts

YES/NO STATEMENT

A YES vote on this measure means: The state would use new, legislatively drawn congressional district maps starting in 2026. California’s new maps would be used until the California Citizens Redistricting Commission draws new maps following the 2030 U.S. Census.

A NO vote on this measure means: Current congressional district maps drawn by the California Citizens Redistricting Commission (Commission) would continue to be used in California until the Commission draws new maps following the 2030 U.S. Census.

SUMMARY OF LEGISLATIVE ANALYST'S ESTIMATE OF NET STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT FISCAL IMPACT

  • One-time costs to counties of up to a few million dollars statewide. County costs would be to update election materials to reflect new congressional district maps.

BALLOT LABEL

Fiscal Impact: One-time costs to counties of up to a few million dollars statewide to update election materials to reflect new congressional district maps.^[[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20250918004136/https://lao.ca.gov/BallotAnalysis/Proposition?number=50&year=2025]


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  1. Fixed hyperlink for [1]



Insights from the 2025 FreeBSD Community Survey | FreeBSD Foundation


Insights from the 2025 FreeBSD Community Survey | FreeBSD... #
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Saudi Arabia and Jared Kushner purchase kernel-level root access to your computer via purchase of Electronics Arts and their kernel anti-cheat Removed by mod


The updated rootkit will be uploaded and installed to your computer kernel automatically upon closure of the deal.

Of course, immediately removed by mods of /c/news

Does anyone know how to Find and uninstall ALL steam games from my computer and ensure they are never accidentally installed again ?

https://apnews.com/article/ea-electronic-arts-video-game-silver-lake-pif-d17dc7dd3412a990d2c0a6758aaa6900





Brave launches 'Ask Brave' feature to fuse AI with traditional search


Brave Software, the creator of the privacy-focused web browser and search engine, has introduced a new subsystem called Ask Brave that unifies search and AI chat into a single interface.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/artificial-intelligence/brave-launches-ask-brave-feature-to-fuse-ai-with-traditional-search/

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Harrods suffers new data breach exposing 430,000 customer records


UK retail giant Harrods has disclosed a new cybersecurity incident after hackers compromised a third-party supplier and stole 430,000 records with sensitive e-commerce customer information.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/harrods-suffers-new-data-breach-exposing-430-000-customer-records/

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[Announcement] Play the Path of Exile 2 Boss Rush Event at Brasil Game Show 2025


Next week, Path of Exile 2's Boss Rush Event will be available at Brasil Game Show 2025! If you're attending the expo, be sure to visit our booth and challenge yourself against 15 bosses. Check out this announcement to find out more about the event.

Brasil Game Show 2025 - Tickets are still available!

  • When: 10 October -- 12 October 2025, from 1:00 PM to 9:00 PM
  • Where: Booth PO02 - Distrito Anhembi Av. Olavo Fontoura, 1209 - Santana, São Paulo

Good luck, Exiles!



California Governor Newsom signs landmark AI safety bill SB 53


in reply to misk

This is fluff. SB 243 is the real deal, which he already vetoed once.

The governor is also weighing another bill – SB 243 – that passed both the State Assembly and Senate with bipartisan support this month. The bill would regulate AI companion chatbots, requiring operators to implement safety protocols, and hold them legally accountable if their bots fail to meet those standards.




F-Droid says Google’s new sideloading restrictions will kill the project


In a blog post, F-Droid staff say that Google's plan to force devs outside Google Play to register with the company threatens to kill alternative app stores like F-Droid.


[Feed] BSD-related users and communities


[Feed] BSD-related users and communities #interstellar, #feed
This feed is a collection of BSD (Kind of like an operation system) related communities and users. No communities from .ml as my instance is defederated from them. It's more of a test feed so it's pretty small.
{"interstellar":"0.10.1","type":"feed","name":"BSD","date":"2025-09-30T01:26:20.571624","payload":{"inputs":[{"name":"openbsd@lemmy.sdf.org","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"bsd@lemmy.sdf.org","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"netbsd@lemmy.sdf.org","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"bsd@programming.dev","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"freebsd@lemmy.world","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"freebsd@blendit.bsd.cafe","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"OpenBSD@fedia.io","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"eurobsdcon@exquisite.tube","sourceType":"community"},{"name":"openbsdnow@bsd.network","sourceType":"user"},{"name":"EuroBSDCon@bsd.network","sourceType":"user"},{"name":"discoverbsd@bsd.network","sourceType":"user"},{"name":"BastilleBSD@bsd.network","sourceType":"user"},{"name":"FreeBSDFoundation@mastodon.social","sourceType":"user"},{"name":"stefano@bsd.cafe","sourceType":"user"}]},"hash":"PG7QyQzX1x2iZPN5WdjWJQ=="}

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

The US "reaps what it 'soy's". Terrible pun, I know. But truly, this cannot be a surprise to the well informed great businessman Trump (sarcasm)


My Thoughts on the Riyadh Comedy Festival | David Cross





Democrats leave White House with no deal


With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.

The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.

“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”

https://time.com/7321745/government-shutdown-trump-meeting-democrats/



China highlights achievements of water infrastructure during 14th Five-Year Plan period




Over 40 percent of US citizens believe backing Israel ‘not in national interest’: Poll


cross-posted from: hexbear.net/post/6276729

Snip:

A new poll released by Quinnipiac University on 24 September has revealed that support for Israel continues to drop significantly across the US.

Only 47 percent of US citizens believe that backing Israel is in Washington’s interest, the poll shows. Forty-one percent believe it is not, and 12 percent did not respond. This marks a drop from December 2023, when Quinnipiac polling showed that respondents supported Israel by a 69–23 margin.

The poll also found that 49 percent of US voters have a negative view of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Only 21 percent hold positive views on the premier.

It also found that 56 percent of US voters disapprove of US President Donald Trump’s handling of the Gaza war.



How the Supreme Court’s Affirmative Action Decision Legitimized Stephen Miller


Miller’s role, The Guardian notes, helps account for the shaky legal justification the administration has provided for the attacks: The Trump administration claims the president was using his authority under Article II of the Constitution, based on the notion that the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua is a foreign terrorist organization. This recalls Miller’s repeated assertions that TdA is “running Venezuela” in his argument for deporting Venezuelan immigrants under the Alien Enemies Act.

The revelation about Miller’s role also recalls reports that he mused about bombing unarmed immigrants in boats as an adviser in the first Trump administration.

Miles Taylor, a former Department of Homeland Security official who resigned in Trump’s first term and became a vocal critic of the president, recounted an exchange between Miller and the then-commandant of the Coast Guard—which Miller vehemently denies—in his book Blowback.


in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

China did what Europe has failed to do; create a widely deployed alternative to Android and iPhoneOS.
in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن

20M units in China is too small to count as a rounding error.

When one Chinese phone company hired an American CEO he talked in interviews about how experimentally selling 50M units of a test prototype suggested it might have potential.

in reply to Liam Proven

In 10 months though and practically limited to the Chinese market? I think it is still an impressive figure.

The first device to feature HarmonyOS NEXT at sale was the Huawei Mate 70, which went on sale in China in November 2024.


Compare that with both Android and the iPhone which had global availability and took until 2010 to reach the same milestone.

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in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن

Also worth noting that other companies have their own domestic operating systems as well. For example, Xiaomi made HyperOS.
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

HyperOS seems to be where HarmonyOS was pre NEXT. Heavily based on AOSP with Google Play Services, yet can also be had with other kernels.
in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن

Right, but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with AOSP. The key is not being reliant on any Google service. Base Android works fine as an operating system.
in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن

China deployed alternatives to everything.
Alternatives to Nvidia AI chips, Volkswagen cars, TSMC chip foundries,
ASML lithography machines, ChatGPT AI software, F22 fighter jets.

And China has superior class solar panels, wind turbines, electric grids and batteries.

The EU has lithography machines that's dependent on the US
and electric cars that are inferior to Tesla and those are their crown jewels.

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in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن

Most countries underestimated the importance of digital sovereignty. The only two countries that have viable alternative to US tech infrastructure are China and Russia.
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Not only did they outsource Europe but they're running laps around America and Europe. It's not even funny.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

I'm no tanks but like..... china seems stable. They're innovating, getting shit done. And the is... well. Hardly surprising that the tides would turn this way.
in reply to krooklochurm

Yeah. I don't blame Brazil for choosing China over the US at this point.