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The Global Sumud Flotilla is just a day away from reaching the ‘orange zone’, 150 nautical miles off the coast of Gaza, where there is a high risk of interception by Israel.
Organisers say 42 boats and 532 participants began the final leg of their journey on Saturday evening after several days of delay. But the lead ship, Family, which suffered catastrophic engine failure off the coast of Greece on Thursday, had to be left behind.
Novara Media contributor Kieran Andrieu, who was on board, is now reporting from a different boat, which he said is making good progress through international waters.
He expects to reach the area where Israeli forces have previously illegally intercepted boats – including the Madleen and the Handala, earlier this year – in international waters by Tuesday night.
If the flotilla is not intercepted, it could reach Gaza by Thursday.
On Monday morning, a flotilla boat was evacuated by the Turkish Red Crescent after it started leaking, taking the total number sailing together down to 41, with four more hoping to catch up, including two that are on their way from Turkey.
Navy ships sent by Italy and Spain have been travelling with the flotilla since it left Greek waters. But when the leaking boat was evacuated, journalists sailing with the flotilla noticed a new frigate on the horizon. It was later reported that Turkey had sent its navy to facilitate a Red Crescent operation to distribute additional humanitarian aid to the flotilla boats, and then responded to a mayday call from the ship that was in trouble.
This comes after flight data revealed that Turkish military aircrafts have been monitoring the flotilla, and amid speculation that a joint naval exercise run by Egypt and Turkey in the Mediterranean sea last week was timed to send a message to Israel.
Italy and Spain have both stressed that they will not confront Israel if the flotilla is intercepted, but are there to protect their citizens on board. Turkish authorities said later on Monday that their boats had only provided temporary assistance and would not accompany the flotilla any further.
Yet the presence of several foreign navies already appears to have acted as a deterrent to attacks. After drone strikes last Tuesday night, the flotilla entered Greek waters for safety and stayed there until Saturday, with some organisers claiming they believed a more serious attack was imminent. Participants prepared to face regular drone strikes for the rest of the journey. But on Sunday, the flotilla spent a full night in international waters for the first time since the attacks, and it passed without incident.
Engine failure on Family.
Most of the 30 or so participants on board Family were reallocated to other boats on Friday and Saturday and are still sailing, but at least three left the mission entirely because no suitable alternative was offered, or they were unhappy with how the situation had been handled.
Organisers, meanwhile, moved on to Alma, the largest boat, which has Greta Thunberg and steering committee member Yasemin Acar on board.
Andrieu said his new boat, Adara, is a Spanish-flagged sailing yacht with 22 other people on board, including elected politicians from Argentina and Spain. Palestinian-French MEP Rima Hassan, who was also on Family, is now on a small boat called Captain Nikos, which is believed to have joined the flotilla at the weekend.
Some people moved off Alma to create space for others, including Irish comedian Tadhg Hickey, who is now on the Meteque, a boat which sailed from Tunisia.
The cause of the engine failure on Family, which had not previously had any serious mechanical issues and was operated by an experienced captain and crew, has not been identified. There are credible concerns that it may have been sabotaged, but initial investigations were inconclusive.
A Turkish engineer sent to determine the cause of the failure told Drop Site News that when he inspected the engine, he found that “all the oil was gone”, but he did not say what might have caused this.
Meanwhile, back in Tunisia, more concrete evidence of foul play has emerged. Authorities announced that a foreign national has been charged in relation to the drone strikes on boats Family and Alma earlier this month. Counter-terrorism police are investigating possible links to Mossad.
A new flotilla.
The Global Sumud Flotilla is no longer the only mission sailing through the Mediterranean to break Israel’s illegal blockade of Gaza; another flotilla left Italy at the weekend.
Comprised of eight boats carrying almost 70 people from more than 20 countries, the Thousand Madleens to Gaza X Freedom Flotilla mission is just a few days behind the first.
On board are elected politicians, including MPs and MEPs, from France, Belgium, Ireland, Spain, the United States and Denmark; Irish author Naoise Dolan, who initially tried to join the Global Sumud Flotilla mission but had to pull out after her boat was cancelled in Tunisia; and French-Malian racial justice activist Assa Traore.
“Every boat we launch is a direct challenge to the blockade and a declaration of solidarity,” organisers said in a statement. “We sail not as charity, but as part of the global struggle to end apartheid and affirm the right of the Palestinian people to live free.”
The Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC), which coordinated the Madleen and Handala missions earlier this year, has been sending boats to Gaza for 15 years, while Thousand Madleens to Gaza (TMTG) is a grassroots initiative inspired by the FFC.
Many of the boats, which can all be tracked online, are named after Palestinians, including Al Jazeera journalist Anas Al-Sharif, who was targeted and killed by Israel in August, and paediatrician Alaa Al Najjar, whose husband and nine children were killed in an Israeli airstrike while she was at work.
Perhaps in light of the logistical issues that have beset the Global Sumud Flotilla, the FFC stressed that it is drawing on “years of experience and grassroots organising”. It emphasised that it was foregrounding “maritime safety, legal defence, and communications” to have a “global impact” and to do what “governments, corporations and institutions” refuse to do – “to stop genocide, resist apartheid and demand accountability under international law.”
One boat has not sailed yet, but may catch up with the others: the Conscience, a large passenger ship that was attacked by drones off the coast of Malta in May, shortly before embarking for Gaza. It was too severely damaged to continue at the time, but it has now been repaired. Organisers plan for it to sail with 100 medics and journalists on board.
In a statement, the two organisations said: “For nearly two years, the illegal Israeli occupation has blocked international journalists from entering Gaza, creating one of the most dangerous press blackouts in modern history. During this time, hundreds of Palestinian journalists have been deliberately targeted and assassinated, while many more have been imprisoned or silenced. This boat is our challenge to that silence.”
Another boat has also been sailing separately to the Global Sumud Flotilla since last week. The Omar Al Mokhtar departed from Libya with former prime minister Omar al-Hassi on board, and British journalist Yvonne Ridley. The Global Sumud Flotilla would not let it join their fleet because organisers said it had not gone through the strict vetting and training protocols necessary for all participants.
The boat was then converted into a ‘hospital ship’, with Turkish news agency Anadolu reporting that it has been equipped with an intensive care unit. It is currently believed to be sailing just behind the Global Sumud Flotilla, and it is not on their tracker.
Despite delays, drone strikes and suspected sabotage, more than 40 boats and 500 people are now on the final leg of their journey to Gaza. Israel could illegally intercept them as soon as Tuesday night. Charlotte England reports.
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In states that do not use counting methods approved by the United Nations, voting provides legitimacy to ongoing multi-decade scams.
If the vote counting is illegitimate, should one vote for the better candidate anyway? This is an intensely debated thing over history in many countries.
Solving that, then voting is like you describe.
There are many layers to just how wrong voting is in the USA. And many of these scams, and the toleration of them, definitely affects reforms in unrelated areas other than the direct elections
Those states owning the means of production is exactly why bourgeois states call them authoritarian. The bourgeoisie are supposed to own the MoP, not the state.
"authoritarian" is a thought-terminating buzzword employed by spineless liberals too terrified of the idea of wielding power for good to actually do anything to help
Hi, anarchist here. What word should we use to differentiate y'all from us? Liberals use tankie to mean anyone further left than biden (and it obv has a strong negative connotation), and y'all define authoritarian and state in a way that makes those labels unhelpful. Without having to know someone's specific ideology, what word should be used if not authoritarian?
Idk I feel like that's not the kind of distinction I'm looking for, because I like anarcho-communism
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If anarcho-communism isn’t communism, why is “communism” in its name?
What? I didn't say it's not communism, I'm saying that calling y'all communists isn't necessarily a distinction from anarchists, bc there's an anarchist version of communism.
The entire "authoritarian" vs "anti-authoritarian" distinction doesn't correspond to reality, and isn't real. There is no history of any human society, that doesn't make rules, norms, and customs for their group, and enforce them.
"Authoritarianism", just like "Totalitarianism", are only used to demonize workers and working-class movements who dared to construct systems existing outside of capitalist authority. Even the historical anarchist experiments found that they needed to enforce rules if they didn't want to deconstruct within days, and were also labelled as "authoritarian" by opponents to their left and right.
Yeah, I'm familiar with this argument, I just don't agree with the way you're using the word (and tbh I don't think it's worth arguing over- I just want a better word to use to avoid having to avoid this argument)
I'm trying to find a word that I can use in contexts like, e.g., "As an anarchist, I don't agree with ____s." I can't do that with socialists and communists because I do jive with libertarian socialists and anarcho-communists. I suppose the only safe option is to just be specific and say Marxists/Maoists/etc, but I was hoping there'd be a word to describe the "archist" component of these ideologies that I don't vibe with without having to get so specific.
Can we just steal "archists" back? Lol (From Marsden, I mean)
To be fair, in common lingo, communist is pretty much 1 to 1 associated with Marxism. Socialism is more broad, and anarcho-communism is nearly always prefixed with anarcho-, due to communism being historically affixed to Marxist movements. I think if you use "archist," most won't understand what you mean.
In my eyes, the 2 most relevant umbrellas of leftist thought are Marxism and anarchism. "Libertarian socialism" is a bit of an odd one, it's closer to a non-commital anarchist than an actual coherent ideology with its own history and theory. Syndicalism is kind of its own thing, and mostly relegated to a specific historical period. Other, local ideologies like Zapatismo, or ideologies like Nkruhmahism-Touréism that are their own thing, don't quite fit in either.
So, I think the easiest answer is just "Marxist." Maoists consider themselves Marxists, Marxist-Leninists are Marxists, I think it makes the most sense that way. Crucially, what makes Marxism and anarchism the two real umbrellas is that Marxism essentially posits full collectivization of production and distribution in classless society, while anarchism posits full horizontalism and decentralized networks devoid of hierarchy within cells. These are pretty much opposite approaches, Marxism seeking liberation of the individual through liberating the collective, and anarchism seeling liberation of the collective through liberating the individual.
Hope that helps make the case for just using "Marxist." Easiest way to not be confrontational.
"Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is. It is the act by which one part of the population imposes its will on the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannons — by the most authoritarian means possible; and the victors, if they do not want to have fought in vain, must maintain this rule by means of the terror which their arms inspire in the reactionaries. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if the communards had not used the authority of the armed people against the bourgeoisie? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach them for not having used it enough?
Therefore, we must conclude one of two things: either the anti-authoritarians don’t know what they’re talking about, in which case they are only sowing confusion; or they do know, in which case they are betraying the proletarian movement. In either case, they serve reaction." - Frederick Engels.
Don't care, go back to your anti-communist safe spaces where they let you whine about the tankies / commies or whatever term you liberal witch-hunters are using.
Some more context for anyone wandering over from an anti-communist space:
Socialists view democracy under capitalism to be impossible. Most current-day systems are better labeled as Bourgeois Democracy, or democracy for the rich only, which socialists contrast with proletarian democracy. Under capitalism, political parties, representatives, infrastructure, and the media are controlled by capitalists, who place restrictions on the choices given to workers, limit their representative options to vetted capitalist puppets, and limit the scope of public debate to pro-capitalist views.
Bourgeois democracies are in reality Capitalist Dictatorships, resulting in legislation favorable to the wealthy, regardless of the population's actual preferences. The Princeton Study, conducted in the US in 2014, found that the preferences of the average US citizen exert a near-zero influence on legislation, making the US system of elections and campaigning little more than political theater. Multi-party, Parliamentary / representative democracy has proven to be the safest shell for capitalist rule, regardless of voting methods or differing political structures, for countries as diverse as Australia, Japan, Sweden, the UK, the US, South Korea, or Brazil.
Ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle more accurately defined Democracy as rule by the poor, and they considered states based on elections to be anti-democratic Aristocracies, since only the wealthy and ruling families have the resources to finance elections. They contrasted this with random selection / sortition, and citizen's assemblies, as being the defining features of democracy, both of which are non-existent in the countries listed above. Today, liberal / parliamentary "democracies" are dominated by wealthy candidates, and entrenched political families, with Capitalists standing above political power.
This system of sham elections acts as a distracting theatre piece, giving the illusion of democracy, whilst in reality it serves to platform capitalist views, make them appear more popular than they are, and manufacture consent for the system itself.
“As an ex-Indian civil servant, it always makes me shout with laughter to hear, for instance, Gandhi named as an example of the success of non-violence. As long as twenty years ago it was cyn…
there is always a chance, no matter how small, that it will make things better.
Read my comment below, because it gets into this. It can't make things better, because it historically has never done so, only protests with the threat of violence from below (and completely outside of bourgeios democracy) have.
Except that it has historicaly made things better, sure, not in massive scale votes, but in smaller votes? In local elections? I fully agree that protests are necessary, and they are alot of what causes positive change, but that doesn't render voting completely useless. In the current systems that exist, capitalism does turn large votes into what is essentially a dick measuring contest. But in smaller scale, local votes there is less money being put into the system, so voting becomes more impactful.
Even locally, it would take some incredible magic for the capitalists who rule a given city or town's politics, to enact or enforce laws than go against their interests / profits, especially without a fight. Scale isn't relevant here, since local elites use the city/town police as goons to protect their property.
Unless you can give some examples, I don't believe it, and I certainly can't think of any time in my city's history where they've willingly allowed something against their interests.
My point is that the rulers of a city or town might not be capitalists. In smaller scale elections, people can actually have a real choice to vote for a socialist, or communist, or other similar left wing leader.
Off the top of my head (and without researching this further) simple things like minimum wage increases have happened, and while it took alot of fighting, that is accomplished by voting. As far as I know, those aren't typically financially very good for the rich who control the government. If I am incorrect about this, please correct me.
Also, I apologize, I am really not in the mood to do a bunch of research to find examples currently, if I remember about this in the future I will, but that is, unfortunately, far from a guarantee.
Off the top of my head (and without researching this further) simple things like minimum wage increases have happened, and while it took alot of fighting, that is accomplished by voting.
Minimum wage, the 5-day work week, and other workers gains took decades of violent struggle and organizing by socialists, communists, and anarchists in nearly every country.
My point is that the rulers of a city or town might not be capitalists.
That's not how it works in any capitalist country. Political power is subservient to economic power, and is toothless without it.
This is an extreme position. Yes, the cards are stacked, and yes, the thieves will fight tooth and nail to preserve their privileges, but there have definitely been examples of a certain election result making things better. My country got independence[1], and the British people got public healthcare, because they voted Labour in 1945. We kicked out a strongwoman in 1977, and reined in a strongman last year. These are just examples from my country.
[1] I'm aware that there were other causes as well, but Churchill would probably have tried to hold on even after the British position became logistically and economically unviable.
People should vote to gauge strength, show solidarity with their movement and demonstrate how to those unaware that the system isn't working and therefore requires replacing it with one that will.
There's a huge non-voter population because few people actually live in swing states, and neither party represents the people. It's far more effective to organize directly.
The Texas senator blocked a bill that would have prevented data brokers from selling personal data on anyone in the United States, and not just federal lawmakers and government officials.
The department also didn’t reappoint board members Stephanie White, a Pensacola adoption attorney, and Tina Vidal-Duart, executive vice president of major state contractor CDR Maguire. Both had asked for more information on the legality of the $10 million transfer during an April board meeting.
The announcement, made during the organization’s board meeting Monday, came as a surprise to observers and wasn’t mentioned in its agenda. But the foundation’s lawyer, Jeff Aaron, said the board members were originally appointed to serve two-year terms, which recently expired.
It fell under scrutiny this year when the Herald/Times began questioning why it held a secret board meeting last year in which it accepted $10 million from a state legal settlement with the Medicaid contractor Centene.
The foundation quickly gave $5 million each to two organizations, one of which was controlled by the Florida Chamber of Commerce.
U.S. companies shed 32,000 jobs in September, according to the payroll processing company ADP, a surprising decline that adds to growing concerns about the rapidly weakening labor market
Le mafie usano i social, si muovono nel dark web, investono in monete virtuali, sperimentano intelligenza artificiale, acquistano software avanzati e arruolano hacker. È il nuovo fronte della criminalità organizzata al centro della puntata di Lezioni di mafie, in prima serata su La7, con il procuratore di Napoli Nicola Gratteri, lo storico Antonio Nicaso e il giornalista Paolo Digiannantonio.
Nella terza puntata di Lezioni Di Mafie si parla di “cyberpadrini”: dark web, criptovalute e IA. In studio Gratteri, Nicaso, il capo della Polizia Postale e un hacker.
Possible illegal interception by Israel's naval commando unit of the Global Sumud Flotilla may be within the hour. GSF radars currently show a concentration of roughly 12 unidentified vessels, 5-15 miles from the flotilla. Contact has seemingly been disconnected with some GSF vessels, with some experiencing signal jamming. Keep your eyes on those onboard, contact your embassies, and demand your government ends their enabling of Israel's crimes!
The FFC is a grassroots solidarity movement of campaigns and activists across the world, working together to end the illegal Israeli blockade and siege of the Gaza Strip and for a free Palestine. https://linktr.ee/freedomflotillacoalition
To ensure the continued operations of the International Space Station and the safety of the crew, NASA and its spacesuit support contractor must ensure the
Google does not show AI search results for the query “does trump show signs of dementia” even though it will show AI search results for similar searches about other presidents.
I try, I really do, to use public transit whenever I can. But a large majority of the time it will cost over twice the cost of driving, take over twice as long, and the final stop will be over a mile from my destination. Two of those caveats I could probably live with; all three makes it a non starter.
Admittedly, I live in a car centered American city.
Thats exactly why so many people think EVs are the only solution. They have never actually experienced fast, efficient, convenient, and clean public transit. The vast majority of the US thinks public transit equals an hourly bus thats never on time and reeks of piss, and thats a fair view because for many thats all they have ever been offered.
President Trump on Tuesday announced a deal with Pfizer to sell its drugs directly to consumers at discounted prices. They'll be available through a website operated by the federal government called TrumpRx.gov. He said similar deals with other drugmakers are in the works.
The new website is part of a broader initiative the administration says is aimed at bringing prices paid by Americans, including Medicaid patients, more in line with those paid in other developed countries. The idea is sometimes called most-favored-nation pricing. Under the deal, Pfizer agreed to charge the same price for new drugs in developed countries and the U.S.
An investigation from Channel 4 News has found that the value of UK arms imported by Israel reached a record high in June of this year. That’s in spite of the government announcing in 2024 that they had halted 29 export licences to Israel. Instead, the investigation found that:
"Our analysis of Israel Tax Authority figures shows munitions worth around £400,000 arriving from the UK and passing through Israeli customs in June 2025 – the highest amount in a single month since available records began more than three years ago."
"The exact nature of the items isn’t specified in the records, but they were listed under a category that includes bombs, grenades, torpedoes, missiles and mines. It isn’t possible to identify the end user of the munitions from these statistics."
The so-called "peace deal" does not offer peace; it demands surrender. The Trump plan is the manifestation of a colonial logic that believes might makes right.
For context, I've dabbled in home brewing. I've made ~4 successful batches based on online recipes. I wouldn't call myself an expert, but also not a complete amateur.
So what happens if you don't rack your mead/wine? I suppose the notion I have is to let it set in primary (assuming there's no fruit/spices to remove after initial fermentation) until its fully clarified before going straight to bottling?
I guess I've assumed there is some problem in the clarification step if you don't "get rid of" the dead yeast that precipitates, but I've never seen anything exploring that as a method.
That's fine. The old advice for racking off the yeast is because that's what the big professional brewers/winemakers do. The difference being yeast sitting on the bottom of 5 gallons of beer/wine vs yeast sitting on the bottom of 100,000 bbls. The massive weight crushes the yeast and then lets some undesirable flavors into the beverage. At the homebrew scale this just doesn't happen.
The only thing to be wary of without racking off the yeast is that it's easy to stir a bunch of the sediment back up if your racking cane moves around during bottling.
Right, "professionals" care about autolisis, they filter the stuff afterwards anyway or sell musty immature stuff. Neither is cool for mead - but waiting is not cool for business.
I don't rack clear mead. It settles perfectly after a year or so, wait till laser beam goes through without any scattering, don't agitate the bottle and give it time, mead really gets better on the long run.
Also, the more yeast you have, better is precipitation. Any rush makes imperfectly clear mead that would seem clear but would just settle in bottle later. This is a bad shortcut, don't rake it.
Personally, I had beer sitting on its yeast cake for months (in the cooled keg though), without any issue. Also, when bottle conditioning, you'll have some yeast sediment at the bottom, which has never hurt the flavour in my experience, even a year or so of not always cool storage.
If you leave your beverage on the yeast for years, I suppose you risk autolysis, but I'd say you're safe for anything up to a year or so.
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Battlegroup East units liberated the settlement, kept advancing deep into the enemy’s defenses and inflicted roughly 315 casualties on Ukrainian troops
The Supreme Court on Wednesday allowed Lisa Cook to remain as a Federal Reserve governor for now, declining to act on the Trump administration’s effort to immediately remove her from the central bank.
In a brief unsigned order, the high court said it would hear arguments in January over Republican President Donald Trump’s effort to force Cook off the Fed board.
The court will consider whether to block a lower-court ruling in Cook’s favor while her challenge to her firing by Trump continues.
The high-court order was a rare instance of Trump not quickly getting everything he wants from the justices in an emergency appeal.
Democrats want the health care subsidies extended now, for Republicans to reverse the Medicaid cuts that were enacted over the summer, and for the White House to promise not to rescind congressional spending. Republicans say there’s still time to negotiate on health care this year, but stopgap funding for the government is the priority.
At issue for the subsidies, is that the tax credits have made health insurance through the Affordable Care Act more affordable for millions of people since the COVID-19 pandemic. The credits are set to expire at the end of the year if Congress doesn’t extend them — which would more than double what subsidized enrollees currently pay for health insurance premiums, according to a KFF analysis.
Apple dropped an ICE tracking app from its online store Thursday in response to the Department of Justice raising concerns that the app put law enforcement officers’ safety at risk.
It's just a bullshit game of political pride at this point. Anti-privacy pundits criticised the UK gov for "caving to the US" after they dropped the previous order so now they're doubling down on trying to take away their citizens privacy in the name of standing up to the US. How brave. Not that the US gov gives a shit about privacy either
All I've done so far is add the DNS server to my VPN, Mulvad, and run the install of Next DNS. I have not linked my ID with the OS and can't figure out how to do it. How do I link it? I can't figure out where to set it up. On Android I added to the PrivateDNS in settings. But in Parot OS I can't figure out where that is. I am so sorry to be such a newb here.
I have only experimented with Parrot OS in the past, however, changing the DNS would be about the same in most Linux distros. See if this helps. It's a tut for changing the DNS in Ubuntu, so it should get you on the green at least.
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First things first, when i delete any account i have i make sure to delete everything inside the account first, convos, posts, stories or any type of activity.
I'm in process of deleting my instagram and i already cleaned everything up except the final boss, my story archive, i have never toggled the archiving option off so the archive has accumulated stories for around 8 years, and of course meta won't let you bulk delete the archive.
my question is, does it really matter doing all of that before deleting when it comes to privacy?
or can i just simply ignore the fact that the story archive is still there and delete the account anyway?
I'm not even sure about all the steps that i do but i just do it so everthing feels clean when i arrive to the deletion button.
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It’s like a purification ritual , and is a descendant of the big tent Christian rivivals seen in the 1800s.
“Have you been saved” and “have you voted” are inflected the same ways in speech patterns.
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If the vote counting is illegitimate, should one vote for the better candidate anyway? This is an intensely debated thing over history in many countries.
Solving that, then voting is like you describe.
There are many layers to just how wrong voting is in the USA. And many of these scams, and the toleration of them, definitely affects reforms in unrelated areas other than the direct elections
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What? I didn't say it's not communism, I'm saying that calling y'all communists isn't necessarily a distinction from anarchists, bc there's an anarchist version of communism.
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in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •The entire "authoritarian" vs "anti-authoritarian" distinction doesn't correspond to reality, and isn't real. There is no history of any human society, that doesn't make rules, norms, and customs for their group, and enforce them.
"Authoritarianism", just like "Totalitarianism", are only used to demonize workers and working-class movements who dared to construct systems existing outside of capitalist authority. Even the historical anarchist experiments found that they needed to enforce rules if they didn't want to deconstruct within days, and were also labelled as "authoritarian" by opponents to their left and right.
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in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •I'm trying to find a word that I can use in contexts like, e.g., "As an anarchist, I don't agree with ____s." I can't do that with socialists and communists because I do jive with libertarian socialists and anarcho-communists. I suppose the only safe option is to just be specific and say Marxists/Maoists/etc, but I was hoping there'd be a word to describe the "archist" component of these ideologies that I don't vibe with without having to get so specific.
Can we just steal "archists" back? Lol (From Marsden, I mean)
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in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •To be fair, in common lingo, communist is pretty much 1 to 1 associated with Marxism. Socialism is more broad, and anarcho-communism is nearly always prefixed with anarcho-, due to communism being historically affixed to Marxist movements. I think if you use "archist," most won't understand what you mean.
In my eyes, the 2 most relevant umbrellas of leftist thought are Marxism and anarchism. "Libertarian socialism" is a bit of an odd one, it's closer to a non-commital anarchist than an actual coherent ideology with its own history and theory. Syndicalism is kind of its own thing, and mostly relegated to a specific historical period. Other, local ideologies like Zapatismo, or ideologies like Nkruhmahism-Touréism that are their own thing, don't quite fit in either.
So, I think the easiest answer is just "Marxist." Maoists consider themselves Marxists, Marxist-Leninists are Marxists, I think it makes the most sense that way. Crucially, what makes Marxism and anarchism the two real umbrellas is that Marxism essentially posits full collectivization of production and distribution in classless society, while anarchism posits full horizontalism and decentralized networks devoid of hierarchy within cells. These are pretty much opposite approaches, Marxism seeking liberation of the individual through liberating the collective, and anarchism seeling liberation of the collective through liberating the individual.
Hope that helps make the case for just using "Marxist." Easiest way to not be confrontational.
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in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •"Have these gentlemen ever seen a revolution? A revolution is certainly the most authoritarian thing there is. It is the act by which one part of the population imposes its will on the other part by means of rifles, bayonets and cannons — by the most authoritarian means possible; and the victors, if they do not want to have fought in vain, must maintain this rule by means of the terror which their arms inspire in the reactionaries. Would the Paris Commune have lasted a single day if the communards had not used the authority of the armed people against the bourgeoisie? Should we not, on the contrary, reproach them for not having used it enough?
Therefore, we must conclude one of two things: either the anti-authoritarians don’t know what they’re talking about, in which case they are only sowing confusion; or they do know, in which case they are betraying the proletarian movement. In either case, they serve reaction." - Frederick Engels.
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in reply to Dessalines • • •If I violated a rule, I should have been banned immediately. Instead you waited until after I didn't take your nonsense bait.
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in reply to Dessalines • • •Some more context for anyone wandering over from an anti-communist space:
Socialists view democracy under capitalism to be impossible. Most current-day systems are better labeled as Bourgeois Democracy, or democracy for the rich only, which socialists contrast with proletarian democracy. Under capitalism, political parties, representatives, infrastructure, and the media are controlled by capitalists, who place restrictions on the choices given to workers, limit their representative options to vetted capitalist puppets, and limit the scope of public debate to pro-capitalist views.
Bourgeois democracies are in reality Capitalist Dictatorships, resulting in legislation favorable to the wealthy, regardless of the population's actual preferences. The Princeton Study, conducted in the US in 2014, found that the preferences of the average US citizen exert a near-zero influence on legislation, making the US system of elections and campaigning little more than political theater. Multi-party, Parliamentary / representative democracy has proven to be the safest shell for capitalist rule, regardless of voting methods or differing political structures, for countries as diverse as Australia, Japan, Sweden, the UK, the US, South Korea, or Brazil.
Ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle more accurately defined Democracy as rule by the poor, and they considered states based on elections to be anti-democratic Aristocracies, since only the wealthy and ruling families have the resources to finance elections. They contrasted this with random selection / sortition, and citizen's assemblies, as being the defining features of democracy, both of which are non-existent in the countries listed above. Today, liberal / parliamentary "democracies" are dominated by wealthy candidates, and entrenched political families, with Capitalists standing above political power.
This system of sham elections acts as a distracting theatre piece, giving the illusion of democracy, whilst in reality it serves to platform capitalist views, make them appear more popular than they are, and manufacture consent for the system itself.
Some more resources:
Pacifism: How to Do The Enemy’s Job For Them
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in reply to Womdat10 • • •Read my comment below, because it gets into this. It can't make things better, because it historically has never done so, only protests with the threat of violence from below (and completely outside of bourgeios democracy) have.
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in reply to Womdat10 • • •Even locally, it would take some incredible magic for the capitalists who rule a given city or town's politics, to enact or enforce laws than go against their interests / profits, especially without a fight. Scale isn't relevant here, since local elites use the city/town police as goons to protect their property.
Unless you can give some examples, I don't believe it, and I certainly can't think of any time in my city's history where they've willingly allowed something against their interests.
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in reply to Dessalines • • •My point is that the rulers of a city or town might not be capitalists. In smaller scale elections, people can actually have a real choice to vote for a socialist, or communist, or other similar left wing leader.
Off the top of my head (and without researching this further) simple things like minimum wage increases have happened, and while it took alot of fighting, that is accomplished by voting. As far as I know, those aren't typically financially very good for the rich who control the government. If I am incorrect about this, please correct me.
Also, I apologize, I am really not in the mood to do a bunch of research to find examples currently, if I remember about this in the future I will, but that is, unfortunately, far from a guarantee.
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in reply to Womdat10 • • •Minimum wage, the 5-day work week, and other workers gains took decades of violent struggle and organizing by socialists, communists, and anarchists in nearly every country.
That's not how it works in any capitalist country. Political power is subservient to economic power, and is toothless without it.
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in reply to Dessalines • • •This is an extreme position. Yes, the cards are stacked, and yes, the thieves will fight tooth and nail to preserve their privileges, but there have definitely been examples of a certain election result making things better. My country got independence[1], and the British people got public healthcare, because they voted Labour in 1945. We kicked out a strongwoman in 1977, and reined in a strongman last year. These are just examples from my country.
[1] I'm aware that there were other causes as well, but Churchill would probably have tried to hold on even after the British position became logistically and economically unviable.
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in reply to Womdat10 • • •Like many things in life, it gets complicated based on where you are at, what you believe, and personality.
If it’s important to you, then vote.
If you feel like your vote counts, vote.
If it is a small town election and the ballots are counted by people in the town, then vote.
For everything else, it’s shades of gray
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