They fled to south Gaza as ordered. Then Israel killed them
After Israel intensified bombing and expulsion orders in Gaza City, Palestinian cameraman Sami Dawoud packed up his belongings and moved south in search of safety.
He took shelter with his family in a tent in Deir al-Balah, in central Gaza, an area considered among the least dangerous in the famine-stricken Palestinian enclave.
But within a week, an Israeli fighter jet struck the area. A bomb hit Dawoud’s tent, killing him, his daughter, and several other Palestinians.
ICE agents dragged naked children out of homes in Chicago: Neighbors
https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-dragged-naked-children-out-homes-chicago-raid-10823150
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Chicagoans mobilize to oppose Trump’s threats of military occupation
cross-posted from: ibbit.at/post/72258
Chicago, IL – On September 30, 1500 Chicagoans marched down Magnificent Mile to protest Trump’s threats of using the city as a military training ground. This past week has seen the effects of Operation Blitz in full force, with heavy presence of ICE and other federal agents conducting deportations. Trump’s speech to top U.S. generals the same day showed he intends to escalate the federal occupation with the military.
Ramped up repression means ramped up fight back!
“They are dehumanizing our communities. They are inflicting terror on our families. Separating families. Let’s not forget that when ICE murdered Silverio [Villegas-Gonzalez], the only thing they said was that he was an illegal. They did not say that he was a father, a worker, and a member of our community,” said Gabriela Hernandezm of Casa DuPage, speaking to the crowd in Spanish.
Hernandez also stated, “We are here today, protesting again, to tell this administration that the Mexicano/Latino community are not criminals. It is the time for us to speak firmly and clearly about these things, because if not, they will come to silence all of us.”
Reverend Jonathan Brooks of Live Free Illinois stated, “ICE has been accused of violating a consent decree meant to protect families from warrantless arrests. This disregard for legal protections tears at the very fabric of trust in our democracy.”
Brooks continued, “A federal judge has already ruled that targeting deportations based on political speech is unconstitutional – yet ICE continues to act as if it is above the law. Let’s be clear: this is not about safety. This is about authoritarianism, fear and control. Our communities do not need to be occupied – they need to be respected.”
“We saw over the weekend how ICE agents shamelessly occupied the streets of downtown and detained fellow residents. Over in Broadview, protesters and journalists are being shot at, teargassed, and brutalized. In a raid in South Shore just last night, ICE, FBI and other federal agents ransacked 70 apartments, knocked down doors, threw stuff all over the place, and detained 50 people – including Black U.S. citizens,” said Angel Naranjo of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO).
Naranjo continued, “Trump hates Chicago because he is a racist reactionary who represents the class enemy – the monopoly capitalist class – and this enemy can’t stand us. Trump and his lackeys are mad and ramping up their attacks – and so we’re ramping up our fight back! The masses of our city – and in particular the Black, Chicano/Latino, immigrant and working-class masses – are putting up a just fight against this rotten imperialist system that is tearing apart our families and occupying our neighborhoods! We are building a movement to stop the raids, and our demand is legalization for all undocumented people.”
“What we need right now is solidarity. The solidarity that Fred Hampton talked about. The solidarity that Assata Shakur deserved. We need solidarity with federal workers, with day laborers, teachers, nurses, warehouse workers. We need solidarity across unions. All public unions, trade unions, across communities. We need the solidarity of all working people,” said Jill Manrique of Chicago Jobs for Justice.
A member of Students for Justice in Palestine – Chicago (SJP Chicago) ended the program by reminding the crowd, ”The kidnapping of families and workers, and the occupations of our city’s streets is just an escalation of policy that has been standard in this nation since its inception.”
After the program, Chicagoans loudly marched down Magnificent Mile, one of the biggest commercial corridors in the city. Protests ended at the Water Tower, finishing with Assata’s “It is our duty to fight for our freedom” chant.
Enemies from within
“We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. Cuz we’re going into Chicago very soon,” said Trump in front of the U.S. top military leaders, stating that there were enemies from within that the military must apprehend.
Trump's deployment of federal forces is an escalation of the ongoing occupation of Black, Chicano/Latino, and working-class communities by the Chicago Police Department (CPD). Trump aims to ramp up this oppression and squash the working and oppressed people who are getting organized to fight back against this. From the 2020 George Floyd rebellion, to the 2025 LA uprising against ICE, working and oppressed are wanting and mobilizing for an end to this terror. The ruling class of this country knows this, and is ramping to continue its grip of oppressed people in this country.
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Join the resistance! Trump has a long oppressive agenda, and we’re here to defeat all of it.
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Trinidad Gov’t Gets US Support for Venezuela Joint Natural Gas Project
Trinidad Gov’t Gets US Support for Venezuela Joint Natural Gas Project - Venezuelanalysis
PM Persad-Bissessar expressed confidence in reaching a deal with Caracas despite backing a recent US military deployment in the region.ricardo (Venezuelanalysis)
Police pinned Black man with knee on his back for 86 seconds before his death: report
Police pinned Black man with knee on his back for 86 seconds before his death: report
New, disturbing details have emerged about an incident that got a Kansas sheriff's deputy charged with second-degree murder for the death of a Black man in custody, reported The Guardian on Friday — with the death bearing a striking resemblance to th…Matthew Chapman (Raw Story)
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A company called Blackdot has built a tattooing robot.
A company called Blackdot has built a tattooing robot. The c...
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Conversation with Meredith Whittaker, President of Signal on tech ethics, the rise of surveillance, the power of AI, and what we can do to fight back.
cross-posted from: piefed.zip/post/539098
Filmed on 5/20/2025 with a live audience both in person and on Zoom.About the speakers:
Meredith Whittaker is Signal’s President and a member of the Signal Foundation Board of Directors. She has over 17 years of experience in tech, spanning industry, academia, and government. Before joining Signal as President, she was the Minderoo Research Professor at NYU, and served as the Faculty Director of the AI Now Institute which she co-founded. Her research and scholarly work helped shape global AI policy and shift the public narrative on AI to better recognize the surveillance business practices and concentration of industrial resources that modern AI requires. Prior to NYU, she worked at Google for over a decade, where she led product and engineering teams, founded Google’s Open Research Group, and co-founded M-Lab, a globally distributed network measurement platform that now provides the world’s largest source of open data on internet performance. She also helped lead organizing at Google. She was one of the core organizers pushing back against the company’s insufficient response to concerns about AI and its harms, and was a central organizer of the Google Walkout. She has advised the White House, the FCC, the City of New York, the European Parliament, and many other governments and civil society organizations on privacy, security, artificial intelligence, internet policy, and measurement. She recently completed a term as Senior Advisor on AI to the Chair at the US Federal Trade Commission.
Stéphan-Eloïse Gras is a researcher and entrepreneur specializing in the geoeconomics of AI. An assistant professor at CNAM-Paris, she explores AI technologies through the lens of software & critical data studies. She also serves on the board of Probabl, an AI company built around the popular open-source library scikit-learn. With 15+ years in the digital sector, she has led initiatives at the intersection of innovation, research, education, and emerging markets. As CEO of Digital Africa, she oversaw a €130M initiative supporting African startups. She also co-founded Africa 4 Tech and led OpenClassrooms’ strategic expansion in Africa. Her doctoral research traced the rise of AI through a music recommendation algorithm acquired by Spotify. She teaches at CNAM, Sciences Po, NYU, and Sorbonne and is currently writing a book on the geoeconomics of AI, describing LLMs as “belief-making machines.”
Rachel Donadio, the Library’s Curator of Cultural Programs, is a Paris-based writer, journalist and critic, a contributing writer for the Atlantic, a regular contributor to the New York Review of Books and a former European Culture Correspondent and Rome Bureau Chief of the New York Times.
This event was part of Ways of Seeing, a special series exploring the connections between storytelling, creativity, and the visual world.
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Can anyone ELI5 the severity of this? Emerging Unity game vulnerability
Unity Security Vulnerability: Developer Remediation Guide
A security vulnerability was identified that affects games and applications built on Unity versions 2017.1 and later for Android, Windows, and macOS operating systems. Download the patching tool here and read on for further instructions.Unity
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Madagascar president refuses to step down as antigov’t protests continue
Madagascar president refuses to step down as antigov’t protests continue
Protesters issue president 24-hour ultimatum to ‘respond favourably’ to demands, threatening ‘all necessary measures’.Al Jazeera
On trillion-dollar tech firms, gold and the evaporating dollar
I wasn't exactly sure where to put this, as after a few hours of sourcing data, applying formulas and being anal about how the charts look, I can't for the life of me figure out what I was attempting to respond to by doing this compilation.
But look! Charts! And tech valuations are involved!
The title art is spot gold Oct. 1 of each year sourced here. All other data come from here. Inflation figures to determine relative values are bog-standard BLS CPI.
My starting point was, "OK, I know these companies are valued so high because each dollar keeps getting worth less," but I wanted some actual numbers, and with gold being on a tear of late, that seemed like a good point of comparison.
1984 was chosen as the baseline because that was the year Apple started trading publicly, with most of the other companies IPOing thereafter. I only went back and added Intel (hence it being missing from the chart titles) because it happened to start trading the same year, and I already had the formulas. What a shitshow that's been.
Anyway, y'all know how to read line graphs, so I'm not going to go into detail. If you have any questions on methodology, please feel free to ask.
Absent inflation, only Apple. Microsoft and Nvidia would ever have been trillion-dollar companies.
And in terms of value against gold, Tech Stocks At All-Time Highs looks pretty damn anemic.
Gold Prices - 100 Year Historical Chart & Data
Gold Prices - Historical chart and current data through 2025.MACROTRENDS
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Discord customer service data breach leaks user info and scanned photo IDs
Discord customer service data breach leaks user info and scanned photo IDs
One of Discord’s third-party customer service providers was compromised by an “unauthorized party” that may have accessed things like names, usernames, and emails.Jay Peters (The Verge)
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‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049967
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
With strikes and demonstrations, intensifying Italian opposition to Israel’s war is challenging the PM’s stanceAngela Giuffrida (The Guardian)
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‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
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Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
With strikes and demonstrations, intensifying Italian opposition to Israel’s war is challenging the PM’s stanceAngela Giuffrida (The Guardian)
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049967
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDTA piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
With strikes and demonstrations, intensifying Italian opposition to Israel’s war is challenging the PM’s stanceAngela Giuffrida (The Guardian)
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‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
Angela Giuffrida in Livorno
Fri 3 Oct 2025 10.54 EDT
A piercing chorus of tooting horns and dockers shouting “we don’t want you” greeted an Israeli-owned container ship when it arrived in Livorno, a port city on the coast of Tuscany this week.For two days, the striking dockworkers stood their ground, refusing to unload and reload the ship’s cargo in a display of defiant solidarity for Palestinians and the Global Sumud flotilla attempting to bring aid to Gaza. The protest was a triumph and the ship, bound for the US and Canada, left.
From Genoa, Trieste and Ravenna in the north, to Salerno and Taranto in the south, in recent weeks port workers across Italy have succeeded in obstructing ships believed to have been carrying weapons for Israel, as opposition to the country’s war in Gaza intensifies.
‘Starting to be very afraid’: Italy’s Gaza protests raise pressure on Meloni
With strikes and demonstrations, intensifying Italian opposition to Israel’s war is challenging the PM’s stanceAngela Giuffrida (The Guardian)
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it's the devs/publishers yes
some time ago Palworld devs lowered the regional price for Poland as they noticed it was relatively more expensive for Poles to buy the game, they got a lot of praise for that
I think Poland is just in the crappy position of not being on developers/publishers radars and being lumped in with other nearby countries when it comes to pricing.
I've heard similar complaints of polish people for all sorts of platforms, not only steam.
And I think them not having the euro probably adds to the situation since the value of the polish zloty has been going up compared to the euro.
So if publishers set the price to the euro equivalent in 2022, and the Zloty rose by 20% compared to the Euro in the mean time, you end up with the prices that are there now.
The difference to the USD over the same time is even more stark at 36%.
Useful idiots deserve to be charged as much as they're willing to pay.
Anything less, and they will legitimately get upset at the business not ripping them off.
Holy shit, it's really is. I wonder what factor they used to adjust the pricing, it isn't like this before.
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Valve appears to have quietly updated its Steam Early Access policy to no longer accept games with mature themes.Ed Nightingale (Eurogamer.net)
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In the Reddit thread about the rejected NSFW updates, Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on.""Valve isn't the problem here," Frenzin continues. "The big credit card companies are. If anything, Valve has stood up to them and pushed back. They could've simply nuked the 18+ section of Steam, but they didn't, they stuck up for developers. Obviously adult games make Valve money, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Steam's catalogue. Silksong itself probably earned Valve more than most NSFW titles put together.
"Given that we're erogame devs, we're against any sort of censorship (as long as the content isn't sexualizing minors or nonconsensual in any way)," the developer comments. "But it's important to understand where the real problem lies, and it's not with Valve."
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They simply could‘ve nuked the 18+ section of Steam.
Was this ever a demand by payment processors??? To remove games like Red Dead Redemption 2 or Cyberpunk 2077? I really don‘t see how this is evidence of Valve pushing back against anything. Perhaps people need to stop brainlessly sucking off Valve‘s dick for a minute.
Valve axed smut games because it was an easy business decision requiring minimum effort. They chose the boring and predictable path of lowest resistance which is the exact opposite of what they‘re being praised for here. Of course it‘s mildly annoying for Valve and they would rather sell whatever they want but they‘re not fighting for customers here at all.
18+ in this discussion refers to sex and nudity, not violence.
Valve axed smut games
They have NOT axed smut games, which is the primary reason we are still capable of having this discussion.
They chose the boring and predictable path of lowest resistance which is the exact opposite of what they‘re being praised for here. Of course it‘s mildly annoying for Valve and they would rather sell whatever they want but they‘re not fighting for customers here at all.
Weird how the smut developers, the ones who are most affected by this situation, have a diametrically opposed view of the situation than you do.
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Adult games hit once more, as Valve seemingly denies Early Access to games with mature content
Valve appears to have quietly updated its Steam Early Access policy to no longer accept games with mature themes.Ed Nightingale (Eurogamer.net)
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Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
The eSafety Committee has requested that multiple platforms identify themselves as 'social networking sites that put children at risk.' The companies and organizations requested to be identified are:
・Meta(Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp)
・Snap (Snapchat)
・TikTok
・YouTube
・X
Roblox
・Pinterest
・Discord
・Lego Play
・Reddit
・Kick
・GitHub
・HubApp
・Match
・Steam
・Twitch
Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
In Australia, where the world's first law banning the use of social media by people under the age of 16 was enacted , authorities have asked several companies to self-evaluate whether they fall under the category of banned platforms.GIGAZINE
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Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
The eSafety Committee has requested that multiple platforms identify themselves as 'social networking sites that put children at risk.' The companies and organizations requested to be identified are:
・Meta(Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp)
・Snap (Snapchat)
・TikTok
・YouTube
・X
Roblox
・Pinterest
・Discord
・Lego Play
・Reddit
・Kick
・GitHub
・HubApp
・Match
・Steam
・Twitch
Australian authorities ask platforms to self-assess potential 'child endangerment social media'
In Australia, where the world's first law banning the use of social media by people under the age of 16 was enacted , authorities have asked several companies to self-evaluate whether they fall under the category of banned platforms.GIGAZINE
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Having a nightmare time with Jellyfin.
- Edit: I am running CachyOS, and how I downloaded was mixed through AUR and Octopi for dependencies
Anyway, for 1, make sure jellyfin has the rights to see your video and music folders.
For 2, are you trying to do it from the same network or from outside?
ARE TANKIES CONSPIRING TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A BAD TIME ON LEMMY.ML? (2025 edition)
!asklemmy@lemmy.ml - ARE YOU A TANKIE? - informal poll results ~ 2025
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This process was undertaken to determine if so-called "tankies" are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers were interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments were counted. I did not provide further instructions or clarifications.
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A ridiculous question. “Tankie” isn’t a term anyone self-identifies with, it’s mostly a term used by liberals to hurl at anyone to the left of them or anyone who agrees with western foreign policy. The survey results will be as meaningless as the term “tankie” itself.
^ wish I'd remembered to include that in the new "poll", there was a lot of confusion in the comments!
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Image description: various pie charts and text, indicating the results of an informal poll from lemmy.ml, full results in spoiler
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@hexbear.net 4
@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org 1
@lemmy.ml 8
@lemmy.world 1
@lemmy.zip 1
@lemmygrad.ml 2
Total Yes 17 (38.6%)
@feddit.org 1
@feddit.uk 2
@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1
@lemmy.ca 1
@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1
@lemmy.ml 8
@lemmy.world 3
@lemmy.zip 2
@lemmygrad.ml 1
@pawb.social 1
@piefed.social 1
@sh.itjustworks 2
@thebrainbin.org 1
Total No 27 (61.4%)
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didn't think to actually include the year on year comparison, so it's below.
yes no total
2024 24 20 44
2025 17 27 44
whole website's gone to the dogs if you ask me 🐶results from this thread
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,ml
Link to previous "are you a tankie?" thread
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Are you a "tankie"? (2025 edition)
I forgot to set a reminder so I'm a little late getting to this, but here we are again:Are you a "tankie"?
Respond "yes" or "no", I'll collate results laterThis process is being undertaken to determine if so-called "tankies" are conspiring to make you (yes, you) have a bad time on the internet!
vague or informal answers will be interpreted by the central authority (me). Only top level comments will be counted. I will not be providing further instructions or clarifications.
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Link to previous results (very serious) hexbear / lemmy,mlLink to previous "are you a tankie?" thread
I'll likely check back in a week, my old pc died so itll take a little bit of time to prettify the results and write a report
Ciao, and of course, imperialism must be destroyed.
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As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049399
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza
"As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life," said an Italian surgeon.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049399
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza
"As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life," said an Italian surgeon.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37049399
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza
"As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life," said an Italian surgeon.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
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As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza | Common Dreams
Jessica Corbett
Oct 03, 2025
The 11 vessels, most of which started sailing last week, are “carrying over 150 healthcare workers, journalists, and activists,” according to organizers, the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) and Thousand Madleens to Gaza.“As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life,” said Dr. Ricardo Corradini, a general surgeon from Italy, in a statement. “This mission is an appeal to our colleagues—and to the institutions that represent us globally—to break their silence, uphold their ethics, and stand on the right side of history.”
FFC highlighted earlier this week that the ship ”Conscience, bombed by Israel off the coast of Malta in May 2025, has returned to serve as a vehicle for medics and media determined to reach their colleagues in besieged Gaza.”
As Israeli Forces Seize Final Sumud Boat, Another Flotilla Sails Toward Gaza
"As journalists and medical professionals, we carry the responsibility to speak truth and preserve life," said an Italian surgeon.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
FBI cuts ties with civil rights watchdog SPLC after conservative pressure
FBI cuts ties with civil rights watchdog SPLC after conservative pressure
Conservatives like billionaire Elon Musk had criticised the group for its criticism of Charlie Kirk’s Turning Point USA.Farah Najjar (Al Jazeera)
Chicagoans mobilize to oppose Trump’s threats of military occupation
Chicago, IL – On September 30, 1500 Chicagoans marched down Magnificent Mile to protest Trump’s threats of using the city as a military training ground. This past week has seen the effects of Operation Blitz in full force, with heavy presence of ICE and other federal agents conducting deportations. Trump’s speech to top U.S. generals the same day showed he intends to escalate the federal occupation with the military.
Ramped up repression means ramped up fight back!
“They are dehumanizing our communities. They are inflicting terror on our families. Separating families. Let’s not forget that when ICE murdered Silverio [Villegas-Gonzalez], the only thing they said was that he was an illegal. They did not say that he was a father, a worker, and a member of our community,” said Gabriela Hernandezm of Casa DuPage, speaking to the crowd in Spanish.
Hernandez also stated, “We are here today, protesting again, to tell this administration that the Mexicano/Latino community are not criminals. It is the time for us to speak firmly and clearly about these things, because if not, they will come to silence all of us.”
Reverend Jonathan Brooks of Live Free Illinois stated, “ICE has been accused of violating a consent decree meant to protect families from warrantless arrests. This disregard for legal protections tears at the very fabric of trust in our democracy.”
Brooks continued, “A federal judge has already ruled that targeting deportations based on political speech is unconstitutional – yet ICE continues to act as if it is above the law. Let’s be clear: this is not about safety. This is about authoritarianism, fear and control. Our communities do not need to be occupied – they need to be respected.”
“We saw over the weekend how ICE agents shamelessly occupied the streets of downtown and detained fellow residents. Over in Broadview, protesters and journalists are being shot at, teargassed, and brutalized. In a raid in South Shore just last night, ICE, FBI and other federal agents ransacked 70 apartments, knocked down doors, threw stuff all over the place, and detained 50 people – including Black U.S. citizens,” said Angel Naranjo of the Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO).
Naranjo continued, “Trump hates Chicago because he is a racist reactionary who represents the class enemy – the monopoly capitalist class – and this enemy can’t stand us. Trump and his lackeys are mad and ramping up their attacks – and so we’re ramping up our fight back! The masses of our city – and in particular the Black, Chicano/Latino, immigrant and working-class masses – are putting up a just fight against this rotten imperialist system that is tearing apart our families and occupying our neighborhoods! We are building a movement to stop the raids, and our demand is legalization for all undocumented people.”
“What we need right now is solidarity. The solidarity that Fred Hampton talked about. The solidarity that Assata Shakur deserved. We need solidarity with federal workers, with day laborers, teachers, nurses, warehouse workers. We need solidarity across unions. All public unions, trade unions, across communities. We need the solidarity of all working people,” said Jill Manrique of Chicago Jobs for Justice.
A member of Students for Justice in Palestine – Chicago (SJP Chicago) ended the program by reminding the crowd, ”The kidnapping of families and workers, and the occupations of our city’s streets is just an escalation of policy that has been standard in this nation since its inception.”
After the program, Chicagoans loudly marched down Magnificent Mile, one of the biggest commercial corridors in the city. Protests ended at the Water Tower, finishing with Assata’s “It is our duty to fight for our freedom” chant.
Enemies from within
“We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military. Cuz we’re going into Chicago very soon,” said Trump in front of the U.S. top military leaders, stating that there were enemies from within that the military must apprehend.
Trump's deployment of federal forces is an escalation of the ongoing occupation of Black, Chicano/Latino, and working-class communities by the Chicago Police Department (CPD). Trump aims to ramp up this oppression and squash the working and oppressed people who are getting organized to fight back against this. From the 2020 George Floyd rebellion, to the 2025 LA uprising against ICE, working and oppressed are wanting and mobilizing for an end to this terror. The ruling class of this country knows this, and is ramping to continue its grip of oppressed people in this country.
Join the resistance!
This mobilization was called by the Coalition Against the Trump Agenda (CATA), a coalition of over 80 organizations building a united front against the reactionary Trump administration. Sign up to get notified when the next mobilization happens at coalitionagainsttrumpagenda.org
Join the resistance! Trump has a long oppressive agenda, and we’re here to defeat all of it.
Polarization rocks U.S. military
New Orleans, LA – On September 30, “Secretary of War” Pete Hegseth blew his bugle for the military’s next crusade. The world’s biggest and baddest armed forces folded in Afghanistan and burned in Vietnam. Hegseth and Trump looked at these defeats, and many more, then scratched their chins. At last, they ferreted out Benedict Arnold: DEI.
Top brass from across the globe scrambled to Quantico to hear about it. Hegseth attacked “fat generals,” women, “men in dresses,” “weak men,” and supposed diversity hires. He announced he’d whip troops into shape by prohibiting beards, narrowing hazing protections, and replacing gender-neutral expectations with “male-standard” physical training. Trump followed by parading a $1 trillion 2026 military budget.
Military meeting or MAGA sales pitch?
“All-hands” high-level gatherings are routine, but this one stood out. It was a full court press to build consensus against “wokeness.”
“What made this meeting so notable is that today’s military is buffeted by an atmosphere of extreme partisan polarization,” wrote former National Security Council staffer Peter Feaver.
Commentators saluted the officers for listening with their poker faces on. It’s supposed to be a win for keeping politics out of the military. But many haven’t kept their cards close to their chests.
“Could have been an email,” one officer told Politico. Another described the conference as an “inexcusable strategic risk.”
“I suspect it’s not being taken well,” retired Lt. General Mark Hertling told MSNBC.
These comments expose that polarization hasn’t been staved off; it’s already running deep. It’s come up before, everywhere from shaving rules to the trans ban. The latter was opposed by 56 retired generals and admirals.
Take it to the streets, see who comes out on top
The sharpest flashpoint has been the National Guard’s occupation of major cities. Trump called them “training grounds” for troops. He states plainly that these takeovers, in Black and Chicano urban areas, go fist-in-glove with imperialism abroad.
Trump’s takeovers have escalated deportations and racist arrests. Although the National Guardsmen do not have powers of arrest themselves, they give backup to federal agents to go after people on petty or trumped-up charges. On Fight Back! Radio, a DC Alliance Against Racist and Political Repression activist described how agents have detained people for legally smoking weed.
But these occupations have prompted a wave of mass resistance. Protests have sprung up in every city that Trump has targeted, and even local politicians are speaking up. “Training grounds” indeed – for the united front against Trump.
The court system is taking notice. The Guardian reported that DC has seen unprecedented lows in indictments by grand juries on charges related to the Trump takeover, even if a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich.
Pushed on by the fightback from civilians, soldiers up and down the chain aren’t buying that there’s an “enemy within.” One officer told Politico that these deployments “distract warfighters.” At least eleven former generals criticized the Los Angeles takeover. The Guardian reported that dozens of troops deployed to LA voiced anger about being political pawns. One said the assignment was “shitty.”
“Disoriented, demoralized, and ineffective”
This isn’t to say there’s a revolt within the armed forces. But they face a different kind of problem – disorganization.
In Foreign Affairs, Peter Fever writes: “Over the course of their professional lives, these military officers are likely to serve a large chunk of their time under both parties. If they become identified as partisans of one, they may be viewed as enemies of the other—starting a cycle of partisan purges that leaves the military disoriented, demoralized, and ineffective, as has happened in other purge-prone militaries.”
To complicate things further, this divided force is running up against a fragmented legal system. The Posse Comitatus Act prohibits the federal military from participating in general law enforcement without a state’s consent. It’s the basis for the California ruling against the occupation of Los Angeles. Effectively, cities in blue states have this legal avenue against the deployments. States like Louisiana, where Trump crony Governor Jeff Landry requested federal assistance, are a different terrain.
Polarization in the military, like in the rest of the U.S., is a sign of imperialism’s decline. Hegseth admitted to this decline when he compared the aftermath of Vietnam to the U.S.’s position today. In Vietnam, like in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. tried to rally other imperialists under the banner of “spreading democracy.” But out with these ambitious, ideological wars. In with the wars of naked and narrow self-interest. It’s the desperate gambit of an empire losing its grip. Mounting abuses of military power come with the territory. But, after all, Americans have resisted the likes of this since 1776.
https://fightbacknews.org/commentary-polarization-rocks-u-s-military?pk_campaign=rss-feed
Netanyahu ordered drone attacks on Gaza-bound humanitarian aid boats off Tunisia, sources say
Netanyahu ordered drone attacks on Gaza-bound humanitarian aid boats off Tunisia, sources say
No one was hurt when two vessels that were part of a flotilla bound for Gaza mysteriously caught fire last month.James LaPorta (CBS News)
First lawsuit filed challenging Trump’s $100,000 H-1B visa fee
First lawsuit filed challenging Trump’s $100,000 H-1B visa fee
The lawsuit claims Trump does not have the authority to override the law that created the H-1B visa programme.Al Jazeera
Arkansas man seeks to have visa status restored after being arrested for ‘Opium’ perfume bottle
Arkansas man seeks to have visa status restored after being arrested for ‘Opium’ perfume bottle
Police thought bottle contained drugs and arrested Kapil Raghu, who was then taken into custody by IceCoral Murphy Marcos (The Guardian)
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SpaceNoodle
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in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •Your comment does the same thing you're critiquing OOP for doing. What gives you the authority to claim as fact that there exists no objective morality?
Edit: tbc, I also don't believe in object morality, but what I have issue with is the apparent contradiction you've made
TheLeadenSea
in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾
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in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •TheLeadenSea
in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •fort_burp
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •TheLeadenSea
in reply to fort_burp • • •fort_burp
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •Deductions based on subjective information got you here. Or did you objectively observe (through, for example, objective experimentation) that there is no objective morality?
That's what therapygary was trying to tell you, but not sure why they expected your subjective experience to realize the contradiction it itself is based on, lol.
TheLeadenSea
in reply to fort_burp • • •TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •The world would look the same way it does now with or without objective morality. Objective morality is just the idea that moral truths exist independent of individual beliefs. E.g., that raping babies is an inherently immoral thing regardless of an individual's feelings about it
Again though, I personally don't believe this. I just won't claim to know that there is no objective morality. No one can know that, the same way no one can know that there's no god, or anything else unfalsifiable
The best argument I've heard for it, from a moral philosophy professor and personal friend of mine, is (paraphrasing) "I know for a fact that genocide is inherently wrong, and I'm not open to debating that. It's just true."
TheLeadenSea
in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •fort_burp
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in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •There are three main camps of ethics:
virtue ethics, which I think you're describing,
consequentialism (which is exclusively about the outcome of actions),
and deontology, which are the moral objectivists.
Deontologists argue that virtues and outcomes don't matter- that there are universal underlying rules determining what is good or bad.
I believe the answer to 'what that would actually mean' is something along the lines of "it just is"
TheLeadenSea
in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •fort_burp
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •TheLeadenSea
in reply to fort_burp • • •If they exist independently of us, where could they originate? If they originate from patterns, evolutionary psychology, or a god, doesn't it make it subjective, just to that thing, whatever it is?
Edit: nvm, I saw you replied to my other comment where I said something similar :3
fort_burp
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •Hey, check this out, you might find it interesting. From Parenti's Contrary Notions:
TheLeadenSea
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in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •People before gravity was well defined:
I'm an amoralist and a determinist; I only disagree with you on the basis of claiming these things as fact
TheLeadenSea
in reply to TʜᴇʀᴀᴘʏGⒶʀʏ⁽ᵗʰᵉʸ‘ᵗʰᵉᵐ⁾ • • •It's more like, "people before smorklank was well defined"
"Well, but smorklank exists, or it doesn't, what do you think?"
fort_burp
in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •TheLeadenSea
in reply to fort_burp • • •As per my original comment, I have no idea what your position is. Care to enlighten me?
fort_burp
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in reply to TheLeadenSea • • •Tracaine
in reply to fort_burp • • •Yes. There is good, there is evil and if it requires many words to try and sway your opinion, that is manipulative - evil.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
Valentian
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in reply to fort_burp • • •I am more and more learning about how personal interests often conflict with societal interests (as simple as it may sound). We are globally going to understand soon enough that democracy isn't worth shit as long as feedback loops that allow personal interests to creep in are "meta".
Loads of people have lots of ideas on how to run countries and communities, but ideology and doctrines are not really proven concepts.
And the other big problem is that to declare new forces within existing infrastructure (creating counter power to prevent positive feedback mechanisms), societal interest must still be powerful enough to not require a revolution to be enacted in a sensible and effective way.
A lot of countries have already in my mind gone way over that threshold, it's recognisable when actual societal interests, long term initiatives and big questions about the future are not asked anymore because the political power is working at consolidating their position and redistributing favours they owe to the soon to be oligarchy.
But you can't really allow anyone to be a defeatist because cynism is the last nail in the coffin, staying awake and fight hoping that enough will join soon enough is the only way to keep existing.
ekZepp
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in reply to ekZepp • • •Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to fort_burp • • •No. Life is not a Marvel movie. Instead, the world is driven by material conditions, and the continuous effect these conditions have in guiding future conditions. The capitalists overtook the fuedal lords not because they were more moral, but because of the steam engine and the expansion in industrial production. The Statesian north didn't free the slaves of the south out of any moral reason, but to gain access to more wage laborers better fit for industrial production. Socialism is overtaking capitalism because imperialism is dying, and rates of profit are falling.
There's no idealist "good vs evil." If you'd like, I wrote an intro Marxist-Leninist reading guide that might help!
Cowbee [he/they]
2024-11-12 13:19:57
JillyB
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •I wanna live in whatever world you're talking about. It sure feels to me like fascism is overtaking capitalism.
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to JillyB • • •JillyB
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •This is the part I would disagree with. I don't think history has a foreseeable trajectory. I don't think anything is inevitable. Saying otherwise is giving too much credit to narrative.
Cowbee [he/they]
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Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to JillyB • • •folaht
in reply to JillyB • • •That's been argued before, saying that the French revolution was just a fluke and we'll go right back to monarchy rule, replacing the Capetian dynasty for the Bonaparte dynasty.
The fossil fuel revolution has replaced fuedalism with capitalism and so will the ground solar revolution replace capitalism with socialism.
amda
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Yes
Yes but only sort of. The PRC as still ton of social inequalities, a ton of billionaires and many things I would consider basics in a socialist society like free education still are present. If anything they seem to keep getting more and more capitalist as time go on. I agree that the progress of China over the last few decades is still a huge win for socialism but I don't see the death of capitalism you seem to be suggesting any time soon
Cowbee [he/they]
in reply to amda • • •Socialism isn't equalitarianism, it's the workers collectively directing society, made firm by public ownership being the principle aspect. This is true, for China, and they are in the later parts of the primary stage of socialism, as shown here:
Capitalism globally rests on US Imperialism, and as that's dying the wheels of history are turning forward.
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ShinkanTrain
in reply to Cowbee [he/they] • • •Does anyone know if Francis Fukuyama is doing ok?
fort_burp
in reply to ShinkanTrain • • •causepix
in reply to JillyB • • •big_slap
in reply to fort_burp • • •the world is rich versus poor, has been and always will be.
change my mind.
WanderWisley
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in reply to fort_burp • • •—Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum
fort_burp
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in reply to Valentian • • •AnarchoEngineer
in reply to fort_burp • • •Proof. We seek to prove that regardless of the existence of an objective morality people will only adhere/accept their own personal morality, thus making objective morality irrelevant.
We have three cases:
1. Objective Morality doesn’t exist: If there is no objective morality, people can only default to their own morality.
2. Objective morality exists and doesn’t align with an individual’s own moral compass: Imagine objective morality was defined by some Aztec or eldritch god and tells you it is morally imperative to torture people. If you have a sense of empathy your moral compass will not align with this and you will choose to disobey this morality. Hence, if an objective moral compass exists and does not align with one’s own morality, the individual will reject it and default to their own morality.
3. Objective morality exists and does align with an individual’s own morality: Trivially this means an individual is still just following their own default morality.
In all cases the individual will only act on their own morality regardless of the existence or nonexistence of an objective morality. Hence, objective morality is irrelevant. QED.
Because the existence of objective morality has no relevance one can assume objective morality doesn’t exist which, by Occam’s razor, is already the most likely case. Your ideas of right and wrong or good and bad will never be objective in a way that would matter. It is, in my opinion, a much better idea to explain what you think the positive effect of your “moral” actions are because those cause effect relationships can be objective. “I think we should provide free basic needs to everyone because a significant portion of crimes are committed as crimes of necessity, and I would like my country to feel safer” is much more objective than “I think we should provide free basic needs to everyone because it’s the right thing to do.”
Anyone can claim their ideas are “right” or “good” without any explanation of why. I mean that’s basically the strategy of the Republican Party. “Being trans is wrong” “Anti-capitalism is evil” etc. And you saying “Anticapitalism is good” is just as empty and meaningless.
Also, fun fact the proof above works for the existence of god as well. Basically just swap out morality with god and ta-da it is morally irrelevant if god exists, you’re only going to do what you personally think is right regardless.
gandalf_der_12te
in reply to fort_burp • • •Good and bad both exist because we want to go somewhere, or we want a certain development to happen. Therefore, the development that we want to see happen is "good" while everything that stands in its way is "bad". Yes, it is that simple, assuming you have a clear picture of where you want to go.
But not everyone wants to go to the same place, or reach the same way of living, so it's more complicated.
Oh and i forgot to mention: If the world existed in perfect balance, with nobody ever wanting to change anything, neither good nor bad would exist in the world. The world would just be.
xia
in reply to fort_burp • • •failure in thought to bring together both positive qualities and negative aspects of people into a cohesive whole
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Tenderizer78
in reply to fort_burp • • •The more I learn, the more I realize that a lot of political leaders who do horrible do what they do for a reason, with some exceptions. This isn't an endorsement of their actions or their reasons, but Putin, Netanyahu, and (kinda) Biden/Obama/Bush all have reasons for what they do. The rare exceptions are the super corrupt ones. Boris Yeltsin, Viktor Orban, Trump, the office of US president generally, Scott Morrison, etc.
In other words it's not so much good vs. evil as corruption vs integrity.
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MithranArkanere
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •Tenderizer78
in reply to MithranArkanere • • •fort_burp
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •lmao spot on. You can have integrity and shitty principles (evil) or integrity and good principles (good), so I don't really see it as corruption vs. integrity.
folaht
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •Tenderizer78
in reply to folaht • • •Netanyahu is super corrupt, but in his position as leader of Israel he does things for a reason. The Israeli people have a persecution complex due to ... history, and so many want an ethnostate. On top of that Israel like America has made a lot of enemies, through their various war crimes, so the threats to Israel's national security are real.
None of this is an endorsement of Israel's past, present, or future. There are better ways to survive and they seem be going out of their way to cross lines that I wouldn't even if it'd kill me. There seems to be some "religious zionism" mixed in with their efforts to build an ethnostate that makes sure they needlessly commit every war crime in the book. Furthermore Israel's reckless actions and it's impunity have been fomenting antisemitism around the world (from the right, this isn't meant to equivocate pro-Palestine activistism with antisemitism).
saimen
in reply to fort_burp • • •There are almost no people who see themselves as evil (except some really fucked up lunatics like serial killers). Everyone normally wants to be and do good. Where does all the evil then come from?
Sometimes people do evil things because of ignorance. They just didn't know/ thought of the consequences of their actions.
Often people do evil things for their own or their close one's advantage like corruption.
But most of the time people do really evil things because of projection. The pressure from "outside" (mainly during childhood development) to be good can be so forcefully and rigorously that people can't accept parts of their own self which they then project onto others. Thus invoking evil actions against these others to protect themselves from them, in extreme cases this can go until dehumanising others "allowing" all the great atrocities we know from human history.
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