2 more boats join fresh Gaza aid flotilla, bringing total to 11
The International Committee to Break the Siege on Gaza announced Saturday that two additional boats have joined the latest wave of the Freedom Flotilla Coalition’s mission to challenge Israel’s blockade of Gaza, raising the total number of vessels en route to 11, after Israel attacked the Global Sumud Flotilla in international waters, Anadolu reports.
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Israeli authorities have beaten Greta Thunberg, made her kiss Zionist flag
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Reports are emerging that Israeli authorities have abused activist Greta Thunberg while illegally holding her in detention.
Greta Thunberg beaten by Israeli authorities
On Saturday 4 October, the Israeli occupation authorities deported 137 of the kidnapped international solidarity activists who participated in the Global Sumud Flotilla to break the humanitarian siege on Gaza, in the second deportation operation in a matter of days, after returning four Italians to their country on Friday 3 October.One of the deported activists who arrived at Istanbul airport on Saturday recounted shocking details of what he described as ‘brutal assaults’ on some activists during their detention, telling reporters:
They dragged little Greta (Thunberg) by her hair in front of our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her as a warning to others.She’s still a little kid. They made her suffer.
BREAKING: Turkish activist and Sumud Flotilla participant Ersin Celik:
“They [Israelis] dragged little Greta [Thunberg] by her hair before our eyes, beat her, and forced her to kiss the Israeli flag. They did everything imaginable to her, as a warning to others,” pic.twitter.com/gV6SeMZr7U
— Suppressed News. (@SuppressedNws1) October 4, 2025
Separately, the Guardian reported that an email to Swedish authorities said Greta Thunberg was suffering from:
dehydration. She has received insufficient amounts of both water and food. She also stated that she had developed rashes which she suspects were caused by bedbugs. She spoke of harsh treatment and said she had been sitting for long periods on hard surfaces.Meanwhile, other released activists spoke of similar degrading treatment.
Turkish activist Samanur Sonmaz Yaman, a member of the flotilla, recounts details of the occupation’s oppression and abuse of veiled women from the boats:
Occupation soldiers ripped off our headscarves during our arrest and took them from us, and our non-veiled friends gave us their shirts to cover our heads.thecanary.co/wp-content/upload…
Adalah, the legal centre that monitors the cases of detainees, said that detention conditions at Ketziot prison in the Negev desert are ‘deteriorating alarmingly,’ amid reports of ill-treatment and violence against some detainees.
A spokesperson for the organisation said that it is difficult at this stage to provide a comprehensive assessment, but confirmed that the mistreatment primarily affects non-European detainees, especially those whose countries do not have diplomatic missions in Israel.
Ongoing Israeli violence
This incident is the latest chapter in the confrontation between Israel and the international solidarity flotillas that recently set sail in an attempt to break the blockade imposed on the Gaza Strip for more than 18 years, amid growing international warnings about targeting solidarity activists and civil society activists, and the deteriorating humanitarian situation in the Strip, which is suffering from famine and shortages of medicine and fuel.Israel intercepted 40 ships in the Global Solidarity Flotilla that set sail to reach Gaza to break the blockade and deliver humanitarian aid amid the ongoing war of extermination on Gaza, which is now entering its third year.
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Plan for Windows 10 EOL and discounted old laptops
So that very important day is almost upon us.
October 14th is the day set for when Windows 10 stops security updates (no consumer is going to pay for extended) and begins to really push people to Windows 11. Windows 11 has strict hardware requirements that a lot of "older" devices that most people have do not meet.
And so, I am sure many individuals and companies may be getting rid of their old laptops and even desktops to recoup the vost of new devices.
What is the plan, when should we move in? What kind of deals should we be looking out for?
I want to find a great deal on a great laptop just for the fun of it. Some of my friends (converted to Linux) are waiting to get new laptops and score a deal. I have been waiting years for this day and I hope it can feel like a special day.
Any good places to look for these kinds of deals?
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Peaky Blinders ritorna con due nuove stagioni: arriva il sequel con la nuova generazione Shelby, mentre il film è in post-produzione
A tre anni dal finale della sesta stagione, Peaky Blinders è pronta a tornare su Netflix con un sequel incentrato su una nuova generazione della famiglia Shelby. Il progetto prevede due serie da sei episodi ciascuna, mentre l’atteso film ambientato nello stesso universo è in post-produzione.
LEGGI I DETTAGLI: Peaky Blinders ritorna con due nuove stagioni: arriva il sequel con la nuova generazione Shelby, mentre il film è in post-produzione
Peaky Blinders: in arrivo due nuove stagioni e il film
Peaky Blinders torna con un sequel in due stagioni da 6 episodi: ambientazione Birmingham 1953. Il film è in post-produzione.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
Tradimento, anticipazioni puntata di venerdì 10 ottobre 2025: Güzide dubita della maternità di Dündar dopo la rivelazione dell’ostetrica
Nuovo scossone in Tradimento: nella puntata di venerdì 10 ottobre 2025, in prima serata su Canale 5, Güzide Özgüder riceve la visita di Cemile, l’ostetrica che ha fatto nascere Dündar. Il suo racconto, ricco di dettagli, rimette tutto in discussione: Dündar potrebbe non essere suo figlio. Una “verità” che trascina con sé indagini, sospetti e conseguenze inaspettate per l’intera famiglia.
LEGGI LE ANTICIPAZIONI: Tradimento, anticipazioni puntata di venerdì 10 ottobre 2025: Güzide dubita della maternità di Dündar dopo la rivelazione dell’ostetrica
Tradimento, anticipazioni 10 ottobre 2025: Güzide dubita di Dündar
Tradimento, anticipazioni 10 ottobre 2025: l’ostetrica Cemile rivela che Dündar potrebbe non essere figlio di Güzide.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
Should ActivityPub and ATProtocol be Potentially Merged into a Single Protocol?
I know that this will most likely get me a ton of downvotes, but I’m genuinely curious: should ActivityPub and ATProtocol potentially be merged into one unified protocol?
If they were combined, Fediverse users and ATmosphere users could enjoy the benefits of each other’s ecosystems—like richer content interaction, better moderation tools, and more seamless identity management.
Bluesky and Mastodon users could interact natively without relying on bridging bots like Bridgy Fed.
Would merging the protocols strengthen decentralized social media, or would it create more complexity and friction between communities?
I’d love to hear your thoughts.
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Starmer just made an antisemitic attempt to stop the Gaza protests
Starmer just made an antisemitic attempt to stop the Gaza protests
Starmer's statement is profoundly antisemitic, suggesting that all Jewish people support Israel's mass slaughter of PalestiniansSkwawkbox (The Canary)
‘They behaved like a terrorist group’: Italian journalist held captive by Israel
Italian journalist Lorenzo Agostino has said he felt he was “in a really barbaric place” while being illegally detained by Israel in international waters after this week’s attack on the Global Sumud Flotilla vessels bound for Gaza.
Agostino said he and fellow passengers were kidnapped and subjected to “humiliating” conditions.
“They behaved like a terrorist group … We were left without fresh water for over two days. Overall, they took every opportunity to humiliate any of us,” Agostino told the Anadolu news agency.
He said they were subjected to blindfolding, tight handcuffs, inadequate clothing, and freezing temperatures in a highly air-conditioned van for hours.
LIVE: Israel kills 46 despite Trump saying it has ‘stopped bombing’ Gaza
Israeli attacks across Gaza continue, killing dozens of people, even as momentum builds for possible pause to the war.Jillian Kestler-D'Amours (Al Jazeera)
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Dem Leaders Betrayed The Base With Charlie Kirk Whitewash (7min Video)
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If I have one free email in Tuta and upgrade it, am I able to make more emails paying for only one?
Lemme simplify it:
Let's say I have x@keemail.me. It's free. Then I upgrade it to Legendary.
Can I create y@keemail.me and z@keemail.me paying only for x? Or will I also have to pay for y and z?
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Create unlimited email aliases for free. Protect your real email from spam by using a different address for each service. Privacy friendly, anonymous replies.addy.io
Germany Considers Split From France On Next Generation Fighter
Cracks seem to be appearing in the pan-European Future Combat Air System (FCAS) program, at the heart of which will be the crewed New Generation Fighter (NGF). Reports now suggest that Germany, one of the two major partners in FCAS, is looking at how it might separate itself from France, amid long-running misgivings over workshare arrangements in this vital program.
According to Politico, the German Ministry of Defense discussed the future of FCAS last week with Airbus, which leads the German side of the program. The article cited two unnamed people familiar with those discussions. Reportedly, German defense officials are unhappy with French demands to have a disproportionate share of the program and are now examining other options.
Germany Considers Split From France On Next Generation Fighter
Disagreements over Future Combat Air System workshare mean Germany is also looking at teaming up with the UK or Sweden on its future crewed fighter.Thomas Newdick (The War Zone)
Scaled over last month?
Is it possible to get the scaled sort to consider all posts over the last month or other timescales?
When I haven't been online for a while I tend to miss most of the stuff going on in my subscribed communities. If I sort by top of the month it only shows posts from the busiest communities.
Greta Thunberg says she is being held hostage by Israel in cell infested with bedbugs
Environmental campaigner Greta Thunberg has told Swedish officials she is being subjected to harsh treatment in Israeli custody after her detention and removal from a flotilla carrying aid to Gaza, according to correspondence seen by the Guardian.
According to the correspondence, Israeli forces are also reported by another detainee to have taken photographs where Thunberg was allegedly forced to hold flags. The identity of the flags are unknown.
In an email sent by the Swedish foreign ministry to people close to Thunberg, and seen by the Guardian, an official who has visited the activist in prison said she claimed she was detained in a cell infested with bedbugs, with too little food and water.
Greta Thunberg says she is being detained by Israel in cell infested with bedbugs
Activist tells Swedish officials she has been subjected to harsh treatment, including insufficient food and waterLorenzo Tondo (The Guardian)
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Why Japan's internet is weirdly designed
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How Big Tech Uses YOUR Kids’ Classrooms To Sell THEIR Products (13min Video)
Silicon Valley has sold the idea of tech in classrooms for years, because they get access to lifelong customers and valuable data. But while corporations like Google make billions, student test scores are falling.
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From Morocco to Madagascar, Gen Z is taking digital dissent offline | CNN
From Kathmandu to Lima, youth-led uprisings are driving thousands from their screens to the streets, demanding accountability, change and, in some cases, toppling governments.
These Gen-Z protesters come from disparate backgrounds and have different demands.
But the throughline is clear: Growing inequality and marginalization is destroying young people’s hopes for the future – and the only way forward is to confront a broken social contract head on.
Here’s what you need to know.
A global movement
On consecutive nights this week, cities and towns across Morocco have pulsed with the anger of young people mobilized under the umbrella “GenZ 212” – the country’s international dialing code. Led by mostly students and unemployed graduates, the protesters are demanding sweeping reforms in healthcare, education and social justice – issues they say have been sidelined as the government pours billions into 2030 World Cup infrastructure.
While stadiums and luxury hotels are erected, hospitals remain overcrowded and rural areas underserved. Morocco’s education system, long underfunded, is churning out graduates with few job prospects: Youth unemployment sits at 36% – and nearly 1 in 5 university graduates are out of work.
The recent protests were triggered by the deaths of several pregnant women following routine C-sections in the coastal city of Agadir, spotlighting the crumbling healthcare system. The government’s response has been swift and brutal: Three people were killed and hundreds of others injured, authorities said. Riot police have been deployed across major cities, using force and arresting dozens. Prime Minister Aziz Akhannouch said Thursday his government had “engaged” with the protesters’ demands and was ready for “dialogue and discussion.” On Friday, GenZ 212 demanded the government resign.
But protests aren’t fading.
Thousands of miles away to the south, youth-led unrest is rocking Madagascar. For several days this week, cities across the Indian Ocean nation – one of Africa’s poorest – have been flooded with young protesters outraged over water shortages and rolling blackouts. They quickly morphed into calls for systemic reform, with the protesters demanding the resignation of President Andry Rajoelina, who first came to power in a 2009 coup, and his government.
Rajoelina responded by dissolving the government this week, saying, “I heard the call, I felt the suffering,” but authorities continue to crack down on dissent. The United Nations said Monday at least 22 people had been killed and more than 100 injured. The government disputes these figures.
Meanwhile, in the South American nation of Peru, youth demonstrations began on September 20 after the government announced reforms to a pension law. The protests then swelled to wider calls to stamp out corruption, repression and rising crime under President Dina Boluarte’s rule. The Peruvian leader’s approval ratings recently sank to 2.5%, with her government at 3%, according to the Institute of Peruvian Studies’ July report, reflecting widespread economic anxiety, anger over corruption scandals and continued outrage over the killing of dozens of protesters after she took office in late 2022.
The Nepal connection
The unrest comes in the wake of Gen Z’s extraordinary and unprecedented take down of the Nepali government in September. What began as a protest against a government social media ban quickly morphed into a broader revolt against corruption and economic stagnation. In fewer than 48 hours, at least 22 people were killed and hundreds injured as demonstrators torched government buildings in the capital Kathmandu and toppled the prime minister.
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/10/04/world/gen-z-protest-movement-explainer-intl
Bluesky rolls out age verification for users in Ohio | TechCrunch
Bluesky rolls out age verification for users in Ohio | TechCrunch
Users in Ohio will have to verify their age to use Bluesky's social network as of Monday.Sarah Perez (TechCrunch)
Advocates raise alarm over Pfas pollution from datacenters amid AI boom
Tech companies’ use of Pfas gas at facilities may mean datacenters’ climate impact is worse than previously thought
Two kinds of cooling systems are used to prevent the semiconductors and other electronic equipment stored in datacenters from overheating. Water cooling systems require huge volumes of water, and chemicals like nitrates, disinfectants, azoles and other compounds are potentially added and discharged in the environment.Many centers are now switching to a “two phase” system that uses f-gas as a refrigerant coolant that is run through copper tubing. In this scenario, f-gas is not intentionally released during use, though there may be leaks, and it must be disposed of at the end of its life.
The datacenter industry has claimed that f-gas that escapes is not a threat because, once in the air, it turns into a compound called Tfa. Tfa is considered a Pfas in most of the world, but not the US. Recent research has found it is more toxic than previously thought, and may impact reproductive systems similar to other Pfas.
Researchers in recent years have been alarmed by the ever-growing level of Tfa in the air, water, human blood and elsewhere in the environment. Meanwhile, some f-gases are potent greenhouse gases that can remain in the atmosphere for thousands of years. But f-gasses are lucrative for industry: about 60% of all Pfas manufactured from 2019 to 2022 were f-gas
According to a report by Bloomberg, the project generated more than $100 million in revenue after being set up over a decade ago by South Pole, a major Swiss carbon credits broker, and CGI, which is run by a Zimbabwean businessman. South Pole walked away from Kariba in late 2023 when Verra suspended the project and began an internal review following an investigation by The New Yorker magazine.Nearly two years later, Verra announced last week that its review had found 57% of Kariba’s nearly 27 million credits were issued “in excess”. That is because the actual deforestation observed in a reference area chosen by Kariba’s project developers to predict how much CO2 the scheme would conserve was “significantly lower” than initially estimated, Verra said.
The value of promises.
Migration from Win 10 to Mint
So I’ve been putting this off all summer, but with support nearly ending for Win 10 and finally having a weekend to spend on this, and absolutely refusing to move to win 11, I’m finally pulling the trigger and getting this done.
I run a home built AMD rig with a 5800x and RT 7800xt, so as I understand, drivers shouldn’t be an issue. I’ve got 3 storage drives currently, a 1tb m.2 NVME I use for the OS and games I need to run quicker, and 2 SATA SSDs. I’ve also got a much larger external HDD which I’ll use to back up my entire windows environment (which I’ll disconnect after it’s backed up) just in case things go sideways during this process.
My biggest concern is here is moving all of my music, pictures, and docs over after the migration. Is it as simple as copying everything over from the NTFS win10 backup HDD to my newly formatted ext4 drives outside of the OS partition? I’m sure I’m not completely phrasing this correctly, since my understanding of Linux is currently at about a 4th grade level, and is probably why I’ve been running around in circles trying to find answers without much luck. I did go over the Mint install docs, but it seems a little light on details for my particular concern.
If there are any resources, suggestions or advice anyone could offer here to help me get through this, I gladly thank you in advance.
Edit: I think I have the information I need to make this work (at least for now), I just want to thank everyone here for taking the time to reply to this. I sincerely appreciate it!
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Welcome to the club. I switched about a year ago and its been fine.
Mind you, I was a windows power user and I Linux I'm just a below average minimalist user, but its been fine. Also mind you, I run a windows VM for some stuff I'm still tethered to (virt-manager is your friend if this is the case). But I have 3 machines in my house that are all Mint boxes and its smooth sailing.
There are some things I wish were different, but you need to choose your battles. Like I don't want any kernel based anticheat on my system so those kinds of games I play on console if available, or don't play at all.
As far as advice, part of what I like about Mint is their forum. Yes, you can always search and find answers but with so many variances between distros having a forum tailored to your specific OS is a nice perk. You will find a lot of answers there.
Hot tip: read up on file permissions, users and groups. Permissions aren't inherited like they are in windows so that's a mental adjustment you need to make.
You'll probably pick up on the file structure fairly quickly. Though I didn't unhide the hidden folders in my home directory because I needed to (I forger why but it came up)
And honestly, I've used an AI tool to help walk me through getting some stuff to work (somehow I broke my Samba sharing) so that's always a resource to help guide you and troubleshoot.
Democratic nominee for Virginia attorney general once suggested a top Republican should get 'bullets to the head,' text messages show
Virginia attorney general candidate Jay Jones under fire over resurfaced text messages suggesting Republican should get "bullets to the head"
Jay Jones made the remark about then-speaker of the House of Delegates Todd Gilbert in resurfaced text messages from 2022. Jones apologized Friday.Adam Edelman (NBC News)
Why Japan's internet is weirdly designed
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Apple and Google block apps that crowdsource ICE sightings. Some warn of chilling effects
Apple and Google blocked downloads of phone apps that flag sightings of U.S. immigration agents, just hours after the Trump administration demanded that one particularly popular iPhone app be taken down.
Ralph Lauren Retreats From Net-Zero as Vestiaire Collective Issues Carbon Credits
Ralph Lauren Retreats From Net-Zero as Vestiaire Collective Issues Carbon Credits | Ethos
Vestiaire Collective is turning secondhand sales into carbon credits while Ralph Lauren abandons its net-zero 2040 pledge.Ethos
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Trump administration to cancel $645 million worth of grants for climate-related projects in Minnesota
Trump administration to cancel $645 million worth of grants for climate-related projects in Minnesota
In the hours after the federal government shut down on Wednesday, the Trump administration announced it would cancel nearly $8 billion in climate projects in more than a dozen states, including Minnesota.Caroline Cummings (CBS Minnesota)
Absolutely despicable. When will this criminal child rapist get the justice he deserves?
I'm talking about him, but also Stephen Miller, Vought, Lutnick, and Kevin Roberts. They need to go.
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On October 4, 1957, the Soviet Union launched Sputnik-1, humanity's first artificial satellite.
Its simple yet proud “beep-beep” sound stood as mankind’s first signal reaching beyond Earth.
Sputnik-1 was a spherical aluminum spacecraft, 58 cm in diameter and weighing 83.6 kg. Its hermetically sealed body protected the equipment inside from external conditions. Onboard were two radio transmitters operating at 20.005 and 40.002 MHz frequencies, broadcasting the legendary signals, which were picked up by radio enthusiasts around the world.
Four external antennas, 2.4 to 2.9 meters long, ensured stable transmission. The satellite had no propulsion system and moved in orbit solely by the impulse received at launch.
To deliver Sputnik-1 into orbit, a two-stage R-7 launch vehicle was used, developed under the guidance of the great Soviet engineer Sergey Korolev. The satellite reached the orbit in 314.5 seconds (just over 5 minutes) after liftoff. Its apogee was 947 km, perigee 228 km, and it orbited Earth every 96 minutes.
In total, Sputnik-1 spent 92 days in space, completing 1,440 orbits and covering more than 60 million kilometers. The last signal was received on January 4, 1958, after which the satellite re-entered the atmosphere and burned up.
The launch of Sputnik-1 was not only a groundbreaking technological achievement, but also a symbol of a new era – the beginning of humanity’s space age.
Since then, dozens of countries have launched thousands of satellites, transforming science, communications, navigation, and our daily lives.
Yet no matter how many follow, Sputnik-1 will forever be the First!
syncspirit v0.4.3 release!
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37069564
I'm glad to announce v0.4.3 release!Syncspirit is independent BEP protocol implementation. Like
syncthing is continuous peer-to-peer file synchronization tool.raw.githubusercontent.com/basi…
You can download ready-to-use binaries for Linux x86_64 (AppImage),
Windows 32 bit (WindowsXP is supported),
Windows 64 bit
and Mac OS X (Apple silicon).Notable changes:
- [core] fix compatibility with syncthing v2.0 (i.e. tolerate directory with non-zero size and without blocks)
- [core] allow to specify root certificate authority to use in all tls/ssl connections, see faq, mostly actual for Windows XP with expired system certificates
- [core] allow to load huge databses and interrupt loading porgress
- [core] reduce memory consumption by model (~ 44%)
- [core] use in-depth scan order instead of in-breadth
- [core, win32] fix negative serial number in generated ssl-certificates
- [core, fltk] more correctly display file scanning progress
- [core, bugfix] make successful upnp port unmapping upon shutdown
- [fltk] deactivate currently selected log level button
Syncspirit is a syncthing-compatible is written from the scratch software in C++ as classical desktop application.
Syncspirt source code uses GPLv3 license.
Any feedback is welcome!
WBR, basiliscos.
Release v0.4.3 · basiliscos/syncspirit
[core] fix compatibility with syncthing v2.0 (i.e. tolerate directory with non-zero size and without blocks) [core] allow to specify root certificate authority to use in all tls/ssl connections, se...GitHub
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OpenAI's New Data Centers Will Draw More Power Than the Entirety of New York City, Sam Altman Says
OpenAI's New Data Centers Will Draw More Power Than the Entirety of New York City, Sam Altman Says
OpenAI's planned AI data center projects would consume as much as the entire city of New York City and San Diego combined.Victor Tangermann (Futurism)
Anonym and Snap partner to unlock increased performance for advertisers | The Mozilla Blog
An ads milestone in marketing reach without data risk. The ad industry is shifting, and with it comes a clear need for advertisers to use data responsibly
Anonym and Snap partner to unlock increased performance for advertisers
With Snapchat campaigns, advertisers can now bring first-party data that’s typically been inaccessible into play and understand how ads on the platform drive real-world actions.Kristina Bravo (The Mozilla Blog)
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Opera wants you to pay $19.90 per month for its new AI browser
Opera Neon is a new browser that puts AI in control of your tabs and browsing activities, but it'll cost $19.90 per month.
Opera renegotiates its $1.2B sale down to $600M for its browsers, privacy apps, Chinese JV | TechCrunch
Some more developments over at Opera, the browser company based out of Norway. The company announced that an offer to acquire the company for $1.2Ingrid Lunden (TechCrunch)
I had no idea they were reusing the name. Apparently they had a different prototype under this name in 2017.
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Meet Opera Neon, Opera's radical vision for the future of web browsers
After launching versions of its browser with integrated VPN and ad blocking, Opera's tried something different: a "concept browser," Opera Neon.Mark Hachman (PCWorld)
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in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •Consumers aren't exactly ecstatic about throwing away perfectly serviceable computers just so Microsoft can push their spyware-cum-advertising platform down their throats either.
I'd say this is a great push towards Linux for anybody who knows anything about computers and isn't a corporation with a dumbass MCSE jockey as an "IT" guy.
Truscape
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in reply to ExtremeDullard • • •KoboldCoterie
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in reply to SteakSneak • • •pivot-to-ai.com/2025/07/28/mic…
They recently announced they are changing it to AI generated avatars
Microsoft Copilot AI’s official avatar looks like a blob of semen
Pivot to AIReversalHatchery
in reply to ExtremeDullard • • •Lemmchen
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •Truscape
in reply to Lemmchen • • •pop [he/him]
in reply to Lemmchen • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •A few distros I recommend for people switching:
I explicitely, from experience, do not recommend
- Linux f**ing mint or other nieche Distros stuck on X11, that will convince new people that Linux is worse than Windows
- Fedora regular as upgrades always break
- Ubuntu due to snaps, weird upgrading system, weird decisions, nonstandard customizations breaking things
- Ubuntu derivatives due to LTS
- small nieche distros made by few people like Nobara or CachyOS (If you dont plan to distrohop at any time)
just_another_person
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to just_another_person • • •My experience after many years
Dont recommend mint to new users or they will think linux is objectively worse looking, has graphics issues with mixed DPI and multi monitor, etc etc
Mint does some things right, some things wrong. Like flatpak, but not entire flathub. Or nice update reminder but no automatic updates.
just_another_person
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to just_another_person • • •"immutable"
Why? Note that these distros are not "immutable", but all of the below are used mostly by noobs and are all immutable
- android
- steamOS
- any mobile or console OS
- even Windows and MacOS in big parts
Image-based means that updates and upgrades are EXTREMELY stable. They basically never break, while package-based systems ALWAYS lead you into horrible situations, unbooting desktops, broken whatever, autoremoving GNOME for whatever reason etc.
Murphys law, if something bad can happen, it will happen. We cannot seriously use and promote systems where we expect upgrades to break them.
I nowadays administer systems a bit and have seen completely broken systems on
- Linux Mint
- Fedora regular
- Ubuntu
- Debian
Package-based distros are not beginner friendly. They give the user the complete ability to break their entire system, for what reason?
Not everyone needs to be a sysadmin. If we want to convince people to switch, Linux needs to be at least as stable as Windows or even MacOS.
declarative
Why not?? Have you ever thought about that statement more than a few seconds?
Why dont you see the whole picture? Declarative means you need to spend more time setting things up, having an experienced person help you will greatly improve this.
But from then on you have a rock stable and very transparent system that will not break over time, and making changes is pretty easy.
I made a repo on Codeberg for exactly that purpose, showing people how easy a simple NixOS setup can be.
just_another_person
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •Bruh........
You don't even understand what you're recommending, and you're making insane comments like this.
Go and look up each distro you've mentioned and see if they are immutable. I'll wait.
Your understanding that regular users can somehow tank their entire install without root access shows a fundamental lack of understanding of how RBAC works in Linux, so anything else you say should be discounted immediately.
boredsquirrel
in reply to just_another_person • • •somerandomperson
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •the "just works" category MUST be linux mint. it's the distro that works the most OOTB.
Before you ask, i have tried about 12 distros and i can confidently say that Mint just works OOTB.
But, i don't give a fuck to stability; i want the blreediest of edges. So i use arch and the AUR often.
boredsquirrel
in reply to somerandomperson • • •No.
Mint works ootb but that is just one criterium. People can help you with setup. What about
- breaking with upgrades or needing an at least medium savvy user to do them
- lacking behind on updates
- incompatibilities with Ubuntu that occur
- upgrades not being enforced-ish so noobs dont care and dont upgrade (I know more than 2 people like that, you are in a bubble if you think manually upgrading is something that people do)
- flathub being preinstalled but only verified apps are there, instead "unverified" deb packages are promoted that are not sandboxed and behind on updates
- desktop looks ok but kinda ugly
- apps same, subpar to KDE
- X11? I hate when people like LTT think that this outdated stack is what we currently have on Linux. I hope they can get the wayland session going but Cinnamon will always be behind GNOME and KDE
why should an underdog nieche distro with ¼ the maintainers of KDE or GNOME (rough approximation, may be way worse) be better for beginners than the actual standard?
Spaz
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •Grimtuck
in reply to Spaz • • •Spaz
in reply to Grimtuck • • •Grimtuck
in reply to Spaz • • •It was on an ASUS Z790 motherboard and if you do a search you will see a fair few examples of people experiencing similar issues. Although there are dozens of different troubleshooting steps that people have tried to resolve it. I'm currently using Bazzite which I'm having a lot more success with, although I only ran Mint for a very short amount of time and I find it hard to believe that I did anything to break it.
I'm starting to hit some points where the limitations of Bazzite are causing me some issues, such as wanting to install hdr10plus_tools, but I'm persevering and might move to another distro as I get more comfortable.
I'm primarily a gamer and have recently started to use my PC as a Jellyfin server when I'm not gaming. So I'm learning slowly. It's now been 4 weeks since I've used Windows which hasn't happened in the last 33 years since I first used 3.11.
I feel like the switch has been made and I'm going stick with it in one form ity another.
Spaz
in reply to Grimtuck • • •Right-o. Sounds like you figured things out and are slowly progressing. Good on you! Wifey is only one holding me back.
On a side tangent, my next pc buils, if I can ever afford it again, wont be anything asus. Theyve gone to shit and done with their products.
boredsquirrel
in reply to Spaz • • •Spaz
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to Spaz • • •Default Linux Mint, ubuntu based.
Installed on an old laptop, 2 old macbooks, one crazy powerful PC of my uncle.
This is a cinnamon issue. Maybe their wayland session is better now, I can hope so. Still, due to the modular nature of Wayland, either they make their own stack or use something else.
Would be nice to join XFCE, Budgie etc, but they prefer their own thing.
Cinnamon and Mint are fine projects for what they are. Small, pretty outdated community projects. But it is incredible how the ratio of users/developers explodes on Mint compared to anything else.
Probably because it is targeted at non-developers.
Spaz
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •somerandomperson
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •You just had a very bad experience because you are already very tech savvy.
boredsquirrel
in reply to somerandomperson • • •No not true, dont pretend you know me lol XD
Mint was my first distro, fine but random crashes.
Then I dealt with it on some occasions, as everyone installs it. Nobody needs to advertize that small extremely overhyped distro, as everyone always uses it!
Timeshift has nothing to do with hard upgrades. It might not break, but it will not upgrade as it has complex issues with package conflicts and whatever that need to be figured out.
Try Fedora Atomic desktops please. This discussion is senseless. They are very easy to use and extremely stable.
What? PPAs are unofficial repos meant for developers to test their software. They shouldnt be added to your system and will introduce breakages that will then give you a pain when upgrading.
And this is not about "bleeding edge" but security fixes.
What? Linux mint is based on Ubuntu because that is supposed to be the great distro. If tutorials for Ubuntu suddenly dont work, that is bad.
LMDE was reported to work way less well than regular Mint. But for sure that is a good path onwards.
First you tell me that I am tech savvy and thus have issues with mint. Then you assume everyone should evaluate if updates are needed or not? People are not distro maintainers. Distros apply updates, and users should not need to press buttons and wait all the time.
On Atomic desktops you reboot to apply an update and you are not forced to reboot. Updates are done in the background with no user interaction, as it is pointless. If you rely on users manually pressing a button, then your automatic updates are bad.
Updates should not be done
- on low battery
- maybe just on AC
- on metered connections (like phone hotspots)
- on high CPU load
- maybe at certain day times
If you detect that and include it in the system (like uBlue does for theirs!) users dont need to press buttons. There is no decision, you update or you are behind on security fixes.
Introducing decisions for things that are not in question is bad UX and leads to people randomly ignoring upgrades. Updates should not annoy you or break the system, or the system itself is not well made.
Man, please just try them, you dont know what I am talking about.
You dont know how Flatpak verification works or dont care to understand it.
All Ubuntu/Mint packages are "unofficial" as they are packaged by maintainers and not the devs themselves.
Only exception are external repos for things like Firefox.
Normal flathub is the same, while flatpaks are more up to date and containerized. It is a silly and harmful decision to prefer unverified .deb packages over unverified flatpaks.
Deb packages have access over EVERYTHING. Literally and deb package could be a virus, as they dont have any isolation apart from some weak Apparmor profiles.
LOL you call XFCE and Mate modern desktops ? XDDDD
also, we are talking about beginner friendly distros. Installing Plasma on Mint will result in an ugly frankenstein, that might also suffer from being "stable" with unfixed bugs.
Yes. GNOME and KDE, as well as many window managers, support Wayland perfectly since years. On Mint with Wayland last time I tried it, even keyboard input and scaling were broken.
A small downstream distro using a nieche nonstandard desktop environment is not the beginner friendly distro people should use. The best experience will come with GNOME or KDE as they get the most work done.
And additionally, as I clearly separated, a package based distro is not suited or needed for most workflows.
Try an image based Distro first, then argue about them.
somerandomperson
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •i ALREADY tried image-based distros. Several of them. In both VMs and bare-metal.
And also, are you too lazy to update your system occasionally, which is a simple command or a few clicks? Because how is needing to click a few buttons every few weeks/months "bad UX"?
Besides, whatever atomic distro you mention has a small repo; you can't find shit. (Unless you're talking about NixOS, which i doubt since you need to reboot to update.)
if you REALLY want an atomic distro that you can rollback, and having packages that are secure, use NixOS.
boredsquirrel
in reply to somerandomperson • • •No, as said. This is about recommending distros for people switching from Windows. Not my personal hobby machine.
That is too rare. You should update at least weekly.
And yes it is silly
1. "You have an update"
2. Open a graphical appstore for no reason
3. Show you a bunch of packages, unless you are an expert you will not need that info and click "yes" all the time
4. Wait, with an open GUI window
5. Often you will be prompted to reboot
Why? Updates dont need a GUI and can go fine in the background. An update notification to reboot once done works too.
And NixOS as well as Ostree or bootc based distros offer you multiple boot targets, so if something breaks you can go back.
OpenSUSE Tumbleweed/Slowroll are my go-to if I want something more messy (if I want to do changes to the system without caring about packaging), as they have snapshots by default.
No idea what you mean. If you search for "universal blue", "bluefin", "aurora", "fedora kinoite" or "HeliumOS" you will absolutely find it.
Nixos supports fully atomic updates which should be used. The live updates always break stuff.
I am on NixOS, but for beginners I would recommend uBlue or CentOS-Stream based atomic desktops. Fedoras biggest issue is that they have no longterm kernel
somerandomperson
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to somerandomperson • • •Because... people need systems that work??
Not everyone can fix a broken system every month
ReversalHatchery
in reply to somerandomperson • • •It's not the point whether they do. the average people wouldn't. that's why it needs to be automatic, or why the easiest way should also do that.
ReversalHatchery
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •mint is supposed to undo shit decisions of ubuntu
I don't get it either, LMDE is treated as a testing project by mint
distros should let the user be able to defer updates, but make them effortless to install. people complain about forced windows updates all the time and for good reasons.
did you see how kde plasma 6 does it nowadays? its on the shutdown button. that is the way.
boredsquirrel
in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •Yes for sure. I just meant software compatibility, but I assume I made that up from the back of my head. I only had one Docker issue, thats it.
No idea what is so hard about it, things like these just show how small this project is! It is literally an Ubuntu LTS downstream, nothing crazy. But 2/3 beginners use it, which is kinda insane.
Agreed. Though as said, a good software management concept with atomic updates and rollbacks, as well as tested software (and a damn longterm kernel, Fedora) doesnt need people wondering if they should update.
Unless you are a power-poweruser, not updating is a baseless gut decision. With a good system you dont need to do that.
Because Windows updates take long and cause downtime. Also forcing reboots is not great (though I dont know if they just do that if there was a real vulnerability, that would be fine)
Windows updates are pretty damn fine. Overengineered, maybe? But the system is not immutable, so they do checksums everywhere, to validate the OS.
OSTree or NixOS do it better, but have way bigger downsides. Maybe not compared to Windows, they should just fix their stuff.
But I guess Windows updates are more stable than typical Linux updates, more tests etc.
That is fine, but only makes sense with package-based distros that have some kind of parallel miniature system running the updates.
Basically what Windows does, and Fedora now too.
Atomic updates are WAY better. No downtime and still more stable than running a very small live OS replacing itself. Maybe the live OS is in RAM, idk.
ReversalHatchery
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •and also the fear that whatever will break. I often hear that people are afraid of temporarily broken drivers, but also windows updates often reset (unknown!) settings, things like audio device IDs that matter for pro audio software and systemwide audio effects (think device specific EQ and filters).
but on linux the system updates your software too, which is then again, if you are doing something professionally on the system, you are almost guaranteed from time to time to come across bugs that are in the way
It's weird because it's true even though the filesystem and updates are much better organised on Linux. I mean the weird part being that windows is that stable even with the chaos it does in its system files.
boredsquirrel
in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •Which is an effect of trying to manage a chaotic system. NixOS solves this by having strict checks but giving users the ability to configure their system.
The system is very mutable but centrally controlled.
Windows has an idea how it wants to look like, but at the same time grants software all sorts of crazy permissions. Adobe software doesnt run when "storage protection mode against ransomware" is enabled for example.
The Windows store apps are better isolated, with permissions etc. But same as on Linux with Flatpak, Software vendors dont want to change their software to be less invasive.
I mean Windows pretty much thrives off the fact that you rely on random 3rd party software like drivers to be able to be installable externally and run with very high privileges. So they dont need to do the work.
Microsoft is 1000 times the size if RedHat, Canonical or SUSE, if not more. They just throw lots of money at it.
Also it is mission critical, so you can kinda expect vendors to test their software better, a bit.
Not always (crowdstrike lol)
ReversalHatchery
in reply to somerandomperson • • •why would you recommend an experimental DE to a newbie? it breaks in 2 weeks and all you hear is "linux from shit". not even directly, but through a friend of a friend, because they won't ask for your help again.
when I was looking at the viability of installing mint for common people, one of my criteria was to have kde plasma, because it's user friendly and evolves relatively quickly, in a good way. a common theme I was reading that yeah it is possible to install it manually, but it's less stable. I think I cannot afford the burden of taking upon the yech support for people and fixing an unsupported DE when it breaks, because it is complex software, with many moving parts that if the distro does not focus on always packaging correctly, if they don't test it but only rely on users to report issues, then that won't work reliably. If I want kde, I need a distro that takes it seriously and allows it as a default DE.
pinball_wizard
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •Or...they could just install Linux Mint.
Linux Mint is a perfectly cromulent distro.
boredsquirrel
in reply to pinball_wizard • • •ReversalHatchery
in reply to boredsquirrel • • •boredsquirrel
in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •Uhm I think you mean Leap. Slowroll is really new and an amazing concept.
Semi-rolling with a few packports and a short feature delay of 3 months.
Fedora is fine, but they dont have the longterm kernel. You can stay on the older supported version for more stable software.
Fedora KDE broke for me once with very very nontrivially fixable DNF and RPM issues. Pretty insane. Fedora upgrades are messy and weird.
Fedora Atomic though is nearly unbreakable. Though, NixOS might be better as /etc (and with home-manager /home) are manages and dont accumulate garnage and state
Truscape
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •eBay would be the most obvious place (often where computers sold from government auctions or business liquidations end up), but also e-waste recycling centers, actual auctions held by the companies themselves (this is where having a guy on the inside willing to give you a date of liquidation would be perfect), or just simple donations and giveaways that are "as-is".
Do note you can't take all machines that are being removed - in the US at least, computers bought with public money (most often schools), must be sent to e-waste or scrap reclamation due to compliance with government accounting mandates. There are exceptions to this (auctions), but those are usually never at schools or libraries.
adarza
in reply to Truscape • • •LeFantome
in reply to Truscape • • •Must be sent to e-waste? Seriously?
That may be the play I guess. Monitor these kinds of places. They are probably going to have some good days.
Truscape
in reply to LeFantome • • •When I was working as an IT contractor for a California High School district, I remember replacing the windows 10 machines myself with newer prebuilts that met the windows 11 requirements. My boss told me to throw them all into a pile, and when I asked him if there would be upcoming auction or liquidation of the spare parts, he gave me a weird look.
He then told me, "Yeah, I know it's a lot of e-waste, but these were bought with public money, so it's straight to 'reclamation'. No one can sell, buy, or take these. The IT department would be in trouble."
ClipperDefiance
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •Some manufacturers have outlets for refurbished devices. They're not like bargain bin prices, but it's something.
There's also a lot of electronics recyclers on eBay. I've haven't had any bad experiences there.
You could also try going to local thrift stores. Don't bother with Goodwill though. They put all their good stuff online. Unless you live near one of their dedicated electronics stores, like the one in Tallahassee, Florida.
The only other option I can think of is checking out something like Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist. Unfortunately, you do need a Facebook account for Marketplace.
wuffah
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •Windows LTSC Download | MAS
massgrave.devsomerandomperson
in reply to wuffah • • •HouseWolf
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •You can convert existing Windows 10 installs to LTSC or IoT, Without losing files. I've been helping a few people I know switch over the last few days.
I would obviously like it if more people moved to Linux, but most people I know ain't gonna more because of certain software....okay it's mainly Fortnite and Call of Duty. >.>
I'll help anyone with it who actually wants to try Linux, I got at least one person to try dual booting.
Geki
in reply to HouseWolf • • •HouseWolf
in reply to Geki • • •You can use regedit to make the LTSC IoT installer think you're already on an LTSC IoT build so it just installs without doing a clean install.
I first learnt about it from this Youtube video but they only show how to get the base LTSC version and not IoT which will get updates until 2032.
Here's the values I used.
"CurrentBuild"="19044"
"CurrentBuildNumber"="19044"
"EditionID"="IoTEnterpriseS"
"ProductName"="Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021"
"ReleaseId"="2009"
"DisplayVersion"="21H2"
I have them in a registry script along with txt guide I've been sending to my friends. Not sure if I can directly post them here however.
- YouTube
youtu.behexagonwin
in reply to HouseWolf • • •HouseWolf
in reply to hexagonwin • • •adarza
in reply to hexagonwin • • •HouseWolf
in reply to adarza • • •Never tried any of this before, I've barely touched Windows (outside of work) since 2023.
But a few of the more tech savvy people I know had done clean installs of Windows 10 LTSC IoT and recommended it.
So I just launched a VM and started looking stuff up to see if there was a way of doing it without needing a clean install. Because seems most people I know are more willing to risk running an EOL OS than actually backup their shit...
adarza
in reply to HouseWolf • • •Mertn33
in reply to HouseWolf • • •artyom
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •chi-chan~
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •I don't believe most people would know about the change, and if they will, I doubt they'll care.
As long stuff don't break, people don't care about OSs.
It's just as nerds.
chi-chan~
in reply to chi-chan~ • • •There's no Linux, MacOS, and Windows. There's only 'computer'. The computer works or does not.
Sometimes they'll know Apple has computers too, and they're different. That's usually basically it.
fading_person
in reply to chi-chan~ • • •some_kind_of_guy
in reply to fading_person • • •SupraMario
in reply to chi-chan~ • • •adarza
in reply to SupraMario • • •SupraMario
in reply to adarza • • •Tenderizer78
in reply to SupraMario • • •Truscape
in reply to SupraMario • • •Mertn33
in reply to SupraMario • • •Tenderizer78
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •I bought a second-hand laptop to in an attempt to capitalize on this, but it came with Windows 11 installed anyway.
It was cheap ($300 AUD) and it meets my needs (except for STUPID LENOVO SWAPPING THE CTRL AND FN KEYS LIKE WTF LENOVO SERIOUSLY EVEN IF I SWAP THEM BACK IN THE BIOS THE LINUX TERMINAL STILL HAS THEM SWAPPED) so I'm satisfied.
hexagonwin
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •try assigning ctrl to caps lock. on terminal
setxkbmap -option caps:ctrl_modifier
Tenderizer78
in reply to hexagonwin • • •hexagonwin
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •hmm. do you mean ctrl+r?
btw which machine do you have? fn-ctrl swap from bios seems to work fine for all thinkpads i have.
Tenderizer78
in reply to hexagonwin • • •orenj
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •phx
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •Veraxis
in reply to phx • • •Depending on what your definition of "decent" is, I think you may be disappointed. The cutoff for support is around 8th gen intel and AMD 3000-series from circa 2017-2018. Even my old 2017 laptop with a quad-core i5-8250U is supported.
Unless there are specific recent CPU models which are not supported, I think the majority of the unsupported laptops are going to be decade-old 6th and 7th gen or 1000/2000-series machines. These machines already go for fairly low prices on the used market.
muusemuuse
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •My roommate with his ancient laptop actually wants to pay for extended support of windows 10. He won’t get another computer and he won’t switch to a different os.
There are people this dumb out there.
That Weird Vegan she/her
in reply to muusemuuse • • •Tenderizer78
in reply to muusemuuse • • •glitching
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •I got a Macbook Pro 15" 2012 (i7 Ivy quad-core) with an excellent battery for $20. retrofitted it with 16 GB for $15 and a "damaged" 500 GB SSD for $10. runs Fedora with Plasma like a dream - that kinda deal?
this morning scored a 15" hires 2011 for less than $5 that I'm gonna take the screen off and transplant it ova here. plan to rock this beast for many, many moons.
Mobile
in reply to glitching • • •glitching
in reply to Mobile • • •Mobile
in reply to glitching • • •I regret throwing the box away. I think it's a 2019 Macbook Pro with an Intel i7 CPU. The device has been wiped but macOS Utilities is still on it. Last when I was working on it, I think I needed to reinstall a OS in order for the hardware to have a link to the Apple for firmware updates?
Today is a good day to set this device up. It's been on my todo list.
glitching
in reply to Mobile • • •SOULFLY98
in reply to glitching • • •Those are great laptops and were well built. I think the 2011 might have the Radeon GPU issue though but if it's lasted this long, you are probably safe.
My grail was a 17" MacBook Pro from that era. I saw one the other day at a tech market but the vendor wasn't at the booth for me to make an offer =/. I'll swing by again an see if I can get it for around $50. They really do live a second life as Linux machines and OWC keeps me supplied on replacement parts.
glitching
in reply to SOULFLY98 • • •I have 2010s (nVidia GT330M) and 2011s (Radeon 6xxx) in various states of decay in the double digits, I get them in the sub$10 range. all of them can easily be repurposed as linux workstations, their finnicky broadcom wifi notwithstanding. all of them can have the discrete graphics turned off, whether they work or not - less heat, longer battery life, no driver complications.
this is the first 2012 I've gotten, as they were always unreasonably expensive for their advanced age - coulda gotten ten 2011s for the price of one 2012! so now I got one and it's... meh; yeah it's better (Ivy vs Sandy, HD4000 vs HD3000, USB3.0, etc.) but nothing spectacular. still, for $20 I could do worse.
Goodlucksil
in reply to TurkeyDurkey • • •