People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads
“This is getting ridiculous and I'm about to just toss the whole thing and move back to Google,” one Redditor said of the “full-volume” ads for Alexa+ on their Echo Show.
Oh sweet summer child, Google is NOT going to be any better at this. That will just be changing one corporate evil for another.
People regret buying Amazon smart displays after being bombarded with ads
“I’m about to just toss the whole thing…”…Scharon Harding (Ars Technica)
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Nuova Scena 3 su Netflix: Guè entra in giuria con Fabri Fibra, Geolier e Rose Villain. Uscita nel 2026, premio da 100.000 euro
Nuova Scena, il rap show Netflix prodotto da Fremantle, è stato ufficialmente rinnovato: la terza stagione arriverà nel 2026 e avrà una giuria ancora più stellare. Al trio composto da Fabri Fibra, Geolier e Rose Villain si aggiunge Guè, leggenda della scena italiana. In palio per il vincitore resta il premio da 100.000 euro e la possibilità di imporsi come nuovo nome di riferimento del rap made in Italy.
TUTTI I DETTAGLI: Nuova Scena 3 su Netflix: Guè entra in giuria con Fabri Fibra, Geolier e Rose Villain. Uscita nel 2026, premio da 100.000 euro
Nuova Scena 3 su Netflix: nel 2026 arriva Guè in giuria
Confermata Nuova Scena 3 su Netflix: nel 2026 in giuria anche Guè con Fabri Fibra, Geolier e Rose Villain. Scopri tutte le novità sul format.Redazione (Atom Heart Magazine)
Former Republican election official buys Dominion Voting — a target of 2020 conspiracy theories
DENVER (AP) — Voting equipment company Dominion Voting Systems, a target of false conspiracy theories from President Donald Trump and his supporters since the 2020 election, has been bought by a firm run by a former Republican elections official, the new company announced Thursday.
The newly formed company, Liberty Vote, also vowed to follow the executive order Trump signed last spring seeking sweeping changes to election policies that multiple judges have put on hold for violating the Constitution.
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Putin blasts Nobel Peace Prize decision, wins thanks from Trump
Putin blasts Nobel Peace Prize decision, wins thanks from Trump
Putin praised Trump's peacekeeping efforts and said the Nobel committee's decisions to award the honor to "people who have done nothing for peace" damaged the prize's reputation.Abbey Fenbert (The Kyiv Independent)
How to get older version of Acrobat DC when installing Adobe Zii
Adobe Zii 6 can only patch Adobe Acrobat DC v20.012.20048 – 21.005.20048
But when I follow the install instructions and run the commands in Terminal, it only gives me the option to install "Acrobat Platform: macuniversal - 22.003.20310.7" through 25.001.20756.7.
Adobe Zii then gives me the Warning that it doesnt support the matched version 21.007.20091.
I'm guessing that if I get a copy of the right version it will work, but, how?
Im using a M1 Mac.
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Trump news at a glance: layoffs for federal workers begin and president threatens China with tariffs
Mass firings of US federal workers have begun, as Republicans work to exert pressure on Democrat lawmakers to end a government shutdown. The White House budget office said the layoffs were “substantial”, with unions for federal workers taking the matter to court. President Donald Trump said of the job losses “it’ll be a lot” and suggested those losing their jobs would be in areas that were “Democrat oriented”.
The government shutdown comes as the US president has revived the trade war with China, this time promising to increase tariffs on Chinese imports by 100%. His administration is also considering using visa restrictions and sanctions against countries that support the International Maritime Organization’s “net zero framework” proposal.
Trump news at a glance: layoffs for federal workers begin and president threatens China with tariffs
President suggests layoffs will be ‘a lot’ and in Democrat areas as unions for federal workers take the matter to court – key US politics stories from 10 October at a glanceGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Trump news at a glance: layoffs for federal workers begin and president threatens China with tariffs
Mass firings of US federal workers have begun, as Republicans work to exert pressure on Democrat lawmakers to end a government shutdown. The White House budget office said the layoffs were “substantial”, with unions for federal workers taking the matter to court. President Donald Trump said of the job losses “it’ll be a lot” and suggested those losing their jobs would be in areas that were “Democrat oriented”.
The government shutdown comes as the US president has revived the trade war with China, this time promising to increase tariffs on Chinese imports by 100%. His administration is also considering using visa restrictions and sanctions against countries that support the International Maritime Organization’s “net zero framework” proposal.
Trump news at a glance: layoffs for federal workers begin and president threatens China with tariffs
President suggests layoffs will be ‘a lot’ and in Democrat areas as unions for federal workers take the matter to court – key US politics stories from 10 October at a glanceGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
OpenAI allegedly sent police to an AI regulation advocate’s door
OpenAI allegedly sent police to an AI regulation advocate’s door
OpenAI allegedly sent the police to the door of Nathan Calvin, an advocate for AI regulation, to serve him a subpoena asking for a trove of personal messages.Emma Roth (The Verge)
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This Week in Plasma: a massive amount of stability work for Plasma 6.5
Welcome to a new issue of This Week in Plasma!
This week more work was poured into making Plasma 6.5 the best and most stable release ever. I know I write that a lot, but I feel like we get better at it every time, and this time it feels like that’s the case here too as well.
Our bug triaging team has basically finished getting through Plasma’s bug report backlog, allowing them and developers to focus on the known and fixable issues. And fix they did! This week there were just tons and tons of bug fixes. Among them were the #2 and #3 most common Plasma crashes, and we also identified the #1 most common crash as being caused by 3rd-party code.
This kind of concerted bug-fixing may not be the most glamorous work, but it makes a big difference to the overall quality of the product!
Notable UI Improvements
Plasma 6.5.0
You can now activate the Sleep, Shut Down, and Restart (etc.) buttons in Kickoff using the Enter key in addition to the spacebar. (Julius Zint, link)
Plasma 6.6.0
The Breeze icon theme now has reversed versions of the “Send” icon (which normally looks like a little paper plane flying to the right), and uses them in notifications when using a right-to-left language, like Arabic or Hebrew. (Farid Abdelnour and Nate Graham, link)
Improved the randomness of randomly-ordered wallpaper slideshows. (Sebastian Meyer, link)
Notable Bug Fixes
Plasma 6.4.6
Fixed an issue that could make KWin crash when trying to look at a device’s orientation sensor. (Xaver Hugl, link)
Fixed the current second most common Plasma crash, which could happen when using a Weather Report widget displaying information from the Environment Canada source. (Ismael Asensio, link)
Fixed a very annoying issue that made graphical vector content copied in apps like Inkscape and LibreOffice Draw get unnecessarily and destructively rasterized when pasting them. (Fushan Wen, link)
Fixed an issue that made screen colors not look quite right (or at least not as intended) when playing HDR videos. (Xaver Hugl, link)
Plasma 6.5.0
Fixed a case where KWin could crash when dragging files or folders from Dolphin. (Vlad Zahorodnii, link)
Fixed another case where KWin could crash. (Vlad Zahorodnii, link)
Fixed a case where Plasma could crash when you tried to create a new folder inside a sub-folder popup from a Folder View widget or a folder on the desktop. (Akseli Lahtinen, link)
Fixed a case where KDE’s XDG portal implementation could crash. (David Redondo, link)
Fixed an issue that made text copied to the clipboard in an XWayland-using app get lost when the window focus changed immediately afterwards. (Vlad Zahorodnii, link)
Fixed an issue that could make automatic screen rotation not work properly. (David Edmundson, link)
Fixed an issue that could make XWayland-using apps flicker a bit on some screens with some GPUs. (Xaver Hugl, link)
Fixed a weird issue in that could make the CPU and memory usage skyrocket after you used KRunner to search for certain specific things and then pressed the Page Up key. (Harald Sitter, link)
When you turn on automatic login and a message appears telling you to change your wallet to have en empty password so that it will automatically unlock, the button you can click to do so once again works. (David Edmundson, link)
Fixed a couple of labels that didn’t display localized text properly. (Nicolas Fella and Nate Graham, link 1 and link 2)
Fixed an issue that made desktop icons jump around when you moved a panel to an adjacent screen edge. (Akseli Lahtinen, [link](invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-d… Requests /)
Fixed a funny issue that made newly-created panels inherit some of their initial sizing settings from the most-recently-created panel, rather than using the default settings. (Fabian Vogt, link)
Fixed an issue in System Monitor that made it impossible to re-select table columns after clearing the selection by clicking in the empty area below the table. (Arjen Hiemstra, link)
Frameworks 6.20
Fixed the current third most common Plasma crash, which could happen when changing themes. (Arjen Hiemstra, link)
Fixed an issue that made the external link icon look weird in GTK apps when using the Breeze icon theme (David Redondo, link)
Other bug information of note:
- 1 very high priority Plasma bug (same as last week). Current list of bugs
- 29 15-minute Plasma bugs (up from 28 last week). Current list of bugs
Notable in Performance & Technical
Plasma 6.4.5
Substantially reduced KWin’s CPU usage while playing full-screen video. (Someone amazing in KWin, link)
Plasma 6.5.0
Improved the speed with which Discover fetches Flatpak information while starting up, improving launch speed and responsiveness in many cases. (Aleix Pol Gonzalez, link)
Information about the size of the folder selection dialog is now stored in the state config file, not the settings config file. This helps keep the settings file from changing when transient states change, making it easier to version-control your config files. (Nicolas Fella, link)
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EU Chat Control didnt pass - proving the media got to alot of you
Chat Control didnt pass - they didnt even vote because they were afraid the result would be embarassing.
And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.
EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.
But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.
I quoted the article here with the news:
In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU’s controversial Chat Control regulation yesterday after facing massive public pressure.
The government did not take a position on the proposal.
This blocks the required majority in the EU Council, derailing the plan to pass the surveillance law next week.
Citizen Protest Halts Chat Control; Breyer Celebrates Major Victory for Digital Privacy
In a major breakthrough for the digital rights movement, the German government has refused to back the EU's controversial Chat Control regulation today after facing massive public pressure.Patrick Breyer
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They answered the second question. The problem is that OP was not actually posing anything coherent.
They're alleging some made up media conspiracy that makes no sense and undermines the impact of the media on the outcome.
OP was not actually posing anything coherent
Yeah, agreed.
I'm not hugely on board with the comment answering the second question though. For me, it's a bit too similar to saying that meteorologists lied to us because they said there was a 60% chance of rain and it didn't happen. In the context of this question its a lot more complicated than that though
This is exactly the dumb shit take from y2k.
I Still hear people go on about how "it was supposed to be this big thing and then nothing happened! Smart people are so dumb!"
Yeah nothing happened because a lot of smart people worked very hard to fix the goddamn problem, you fucking shitwaffle.
Here? "You dum dums got so worked up thinking it would pass and then it didn't, so the freak out was for nothing!" yeah it didn't pass because a lot of Europeans got very upset about their governments trying to spy on them harder than ever.
I'm not European, so I can't say how people talked about it openly on the metro with random strangers, but online? People were vocal and pissed. A PROPER government (lol can we have some of that functioning democracy please) listens to its people. This was them listening to the people.
The people's reaction was appropriate, and necessary. And shouldn't be lessened just because "lol you guys got so propaganda'd and it was obviously never gonna happen and I knew cause I'm so smart" is quite the take on things.
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it's not going to for either of them
it never does lol
I think you should never take these things lightly.
It's better to be too cautious than not cautious enough, especially since there are powerful interest groups that want mass surveillance.
The people don't want that, of course, but many politicians do, as evidenced by the fact that Palantir is being introduced in Germany, of all places, and completely illegally. This must be prevented, and the population has a role to play in this—for example, with petitions like this one, which already has more than 400,000 signatures: Trump software Palantir: Stop surveillance plans
Nein zum Palantir-Deal – jetzt Appell unterzeichnen
Die Polizei könnte die US-Überwachungssoftware Palantir bekommen. Stopp den Deal mit dem Trump-Vertrauten Peter Thiel.aktion.campact.de
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Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.
Uuuuh... This place is a breeding ground of heavily biased propaganda. Just look at your feed, it's all news articles reinforcing a side of things. It's got its fair share of users that don't look at things from a broad perspective and most get mad when they perceive their opinion is being challenged, even when it's not. That's why it's riddled with posts that aren't for interest; they're rooted in agenda that is to either push narrative or reinforce ego.
And if your filter lists aren't full of users, communities, and instances, it's very plausible your mind my be one that's easily duped, because the shits got to be one of the most obvious places on the internet to spot it. Part of the Lemmy experience is maintaining and customising the feed.
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Would the outcome have been the same without people in the media repeatedly bringing this to everyone's attention? Probably not, because there would have been no public pressure against it, while the shadow groups that want this would have still been lobbying the politicians.
Something bad is going to happen.
Some people advocate to stop that bad thing.
Even more people are holding their clutches that the bad thing might happen.
Because of public pressure, action is undertaken to prevent the bad thing from happening.
Thanks to those efforts, the bad thing is successfully averted.
Some random person: that bad thing was never going to happen, look at all those gullible people who were panicking over nothing, we could have just done nothing and the outcome would have been the same.
Also known as the "preparedness paradox": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepared…
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That is the American approach to legislation: get in as many laws that favour you or your sponsors, and pray the courts let at least some of them through.
That's not how this is meant to work. The courts shutting down a law is a last measure, when everything else has failed and hell's about to break loose.
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EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion.But the whole media got you thinking so. Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.
This is what the EU democracy opinion was as of July 2024 BTW, before the "media got to you":
A lot. A. Lot.
All that trouble to clown people… uses “alot”.
Kills me 🙃😘
Thank goodness for no Chat Control. Shit’s straight-up Bozo Time.
They’re bound to try again in a few months.
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What kind of shit take is this?
Media made people aware of ongoing bullshit, people reacted and put pressure on their governments and somehow "media got to us"?
If anything it didn't pass because of media attention.
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What a bizarre take. The EU council is backing down - they do want chat control but each time they propose it they meet resistance and back down. Then they come back again and try again.
To suggest the public reaction is overblown and media manipulation is bizarre. This is the 3rd or 4th time the EU has attempted to get this through. Just because they chickened out of a vote doesn't mean the politicians don't want this.
In a democracy votes happen. In the EU they keep resurrecting this terrible idea hoping to get it through but then backing away if they don't think they can win. They know if there was an actual vote it likely would put an end to his.
Also the EU council is the antithesis of a democracy. It is not directly elected - instead it's a club of the heads of states of all the countries in the EU. It just represents who happens to be in charge of each country, and gives equal weights to all those countries regardless of their population size. The EU has a Parliament but it's a fig leaf of democracy as so much power is held in bodies like the Council and the Commission (which is 1 post per state and horse traded not elected).
So please don't make this out as a sign that EU democracy works. If EI democracy was working properly they would have listened the first time, and they'd have moved to a directly elected system for the executive Council and commission years ago.
The EU gets too much of a free pass for "not being America" but it's got huge problems that need fixing to make it an actual democracy.
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I don't know. I live in Russia. One can say things like "aggressor state" and such, but if democracy worked here, we'd probably have no nukes by now, and I don't think this would have worked well, aggression or not.
While the last few years show more and more persuasively that it's unwise to let go of your weapons, any democracy in Russia in a long period between now and 1999 would have resulted in a radical contraction of the military and everything associated with it. Because it was very easy to believe that the world is different now and daddy USA is the global power for good that will keep peace. And that "rules-based order" really exists. And what not.
Propaganda is a thing. The EU is maybe not democratic, but making it such one should first make brakes.
At least the EU includes France which has nukes. In case world suddenly becomes even crazier.
Your sarcasm is out of place here really, and yes, Ukraine gave up its nukes and got this outcome. Ukraine had nukes after the union's breakup.
We naturally can't compare Russia without nukes to Russia with nukes, having only one version of history, but it's pretty clear that having nukes is beneficial, from comparing countries treated by western media similarly between which have nukes and which don't have nukes.
Say, there is North Korea with nukes, which, despite all its despotism, still survives, even somewhat modernizes and doesn't even have hunger as it did in some other periods of its history. It's a functional nation.
And there's Syria, where rebranded ISIS took power, is openly massacring Alawites and Druze and basically everyone not Sunni Arab whom they can get (Kurds they can't, Kurds have their own military organization still existing), and the western media is praising them and behaving as if it's regrettable, but necessary that genocide took place. Say, Bashar al-Assad didn't do genocide. He really had an unpleasant regime, basically abusing all dissenters and selling drugs as the basis of his rule, and he even all by himself put off payroll the units most useful in preserving his power in the civil war. And he is to blame that this happened and the Syrian state fell apart like some rotten fruit, for pieces to be picked up by jihadis. Except all those civilian Alawites are not to blame, and if you read something in western media about it, it's almost as if they were. Because what's a little genocide between friends, right. It's not a functional nation.
And then there's Iran, which got invaded by Saddam Hussein with western cheering almost immediately after its revolution (against western-approved "Shah", whose father, by the way, was a half-literate cavalry officer who took power in a coup, it wasn't any kind of respectable legitimate government), and then they decided that they need nukes. And if they really had nukes, they might have had more peace. It's a very corrupt nation ruled by religious nutheads, but compared to fucking Saudi Arabia it's almost progressive.
I mean, these are all not even important. It's a pretty commonly accepted thing that the Cold War was "cold" because of nukes. We got half a century of peace in most of the world thanks to nukes.
Most people are kinda sane, only a few are insane. Sane aggressors fear nukes on their victim's side, and don't use nukes first because they want to win something, not burn themselves and the victim. A revolution in strategic armaments discouraging most aggressors and encouraging only a few helps peace.
All hail nukes.
We will have to fight Chat Control again and again...
Mass Surveillance should be blocked at the constitutional level in all countries.
On another point, my country, France is in a very deep political turmoil right now, so thanks for the robust response of our German friends that was definitely critical. I wish we could have mobilized better in France but we are struggling to just have a working government right now...
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Mass surveillance is a very bad solution to a real problem. The more years pass, the bigger are the chances of a war with equal adversary or worse, a conventional normal war or not. And the real problem would be cutting the flow of intelligence and control messages the potential adversary possesses.
If that potential adversary is US or close to US, this would require either going offline with jamming all communication over EU borders and other such things, while not doing mass surveillance, so that nothing got through, or mass surveillance to proactively filter out and find the specific actors leaking intelligence and neutralize them, while not having the expenses associated with the previous variant. Those expenses would be such that they could kill the EU economies very quickly, not even talking about protests and such turmoil that what you have now won't feel anything deep.
Just playing devil's advocate.
It's either that or limiting flow of information over EU borders, which, honestly, is not so bad, except without wide popular understanding and support it would lead to what I said.
The fact that wars are rarely declared in our time really hurts.
And if you think this is nuts, then you haven't been paying attention in history classes.
That people who can, do. Sometimes that means forcing others. Sometimes that means breaking good things for others. And sometimes locally that's the lesser evil.
Anyway, I've described, why a truly competent well-meaning imagined government would possibly be doing this, and what would be one alternative for it without backdoors. An EU-wide intranet. Probably with outside communications whitelisted and analyzed similarly to the GFW of China.
It's hypothetical, in reality, of course, we all should be judging to the best of our knowledge, not on imagination. Which means resisting such legislation.
Yeah... no.
Germany switched to opposed partially because people knew about it and contacted their representatives.
They contacted their representatives because they heard about it.. through the media.
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I contacted ~~my~~ representatives
These people clearly don't represent you.
Proving even on Lemmy, you and me are extremly prone to propaganda.
What? LOL Who do you think is pushing said "propaganda" to make people fear Chat Control unnecessarily?
And we got told so many times, that EU now wants Chat Control. But it was a big fat lie.
It was demonstrably not a lie. There were so many regions in support of it that it was dangerously close to passing.
I'm thinking this post is the propaganda. Really really lazy propaganda.
Don't worry, it'll be back again in a few months with a new coat of paint.
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It was demonstrably not a lie. There were so many regions in support of it that it was dangerously close to passing.
It really wasn't. It couldn't have been close to passing without a vote even taking place. The vote was scheduled for October 14th. However, since countries representing more than 35% of the EU population have declared their opposition to this proposal, it has been canceled.
A lot of countries have indeed declared support, though this is completely separate from the vote. There, it'd require a qualified majority (55% of member states in favor, or countries representing 65% of the EU population in favor). Looking at MEPs' public statements, it's unlikely that the vote would have passed.
Nonetheless, it remains troubling that they keep trying to force this proposal through. We have to push back every single time, but they only need it to pass once. Who knows what the future may hold.
It couldn't have been close to passing without a vote even taking place.
Huh? Do countries voicing their approval or disapproval not count as a "vote"?
countries representing more than 35% of the EU population have declared their opposition
That's not even half...
A lot of countries have indeed declared support, though this is completely separate from the vote.
That's because, as you mentioned earlier, the vote never happened.
There, it'd require a qualified majority (55% of member states in favor, or countries representing 65% of the EU population in favor)
Which, according to your own numbers, they already had.
Huh? Do countries voicing their approval or disapproval not count as a "vote"?
No. The stances of countries are the [leaked] stances of their respective governments. Which may or may not reflect the views of the country's MEPs. You can read more here: Fight Chat Control
That's not even half...
True, and that's indeed very concerning. However, it should be noted that this is not how many countries are against this proposal, but how many countries oppose it enough to reject it before voting. Many countries currently 'undecided' are likely to vote against the proposal in the end (if a vote took place). Likewise, some of them could vote in favor.
Which, according to your own numbers, they already had.
Not at all. I mentioned that, with Germany changing their stance to against, we had over 35% of the EU population against. Which means in favor and undecided both had less than 65% together. Right now I can't count the populations, but there's 12 countries in favor, 9 against and 6 undecided. This by no means gives the countries in favor a qualified majority. Unless all in favor and at least half of undecided (3 countries) fully voted in favor. Which is fairly unlikely.
Additionally, as I mentioned above, these numbers are for the member states' governments, not their MEPs. Usually MEPs are more pro-people, but of course, it depends on the country and its current government.
Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU
Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.fightchatcontrol.eu
There were so many regions in support of it that it was dangerously close to passing.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but - it wasn't "close to passing", it was "close to being passed on as a proposal for a law", requiring then a formal vote, no?
So, even if Germany retained its support and the motion went forward, it could still get smashed during the vote.
I’m thinking this post is the propaganda. Really really lazy propaganda.
I think you're misreading it and badly.
I read it as: "don't believe those who panicked that the EU is a fascist dictatorship that wants to subjugate the population, because it's still a democracy where the people have the power, as proven by Chat Control being thrown in the bin yet again".
it wasn't "close to passing", it was "close to being passed on as a proposal for a law", requiring then a formal vote, no?
It's the same thing. Why would a country show support for the legislation and then vote against it later?
I read it as: "don't believe those who panicke
This is such a charitable reading that it's probably fair to assume this is OPs alt account.
It’s the same thing.
It absolutely is not. I don't know, maybe you're more familiar with the US federal system (pre-Trump, because that's a different can of worms)? If so: imagine if the president (in this case having no ability to issue executive orders, mind you) says "we should do X". That's all well and good, but the X must still go through the Senate and Congress, where it might fail.
Why would a country show support for the legislation and then vote against it later?
Well, because "a country" is not a singular hive-mind, is it? The government says "yes", but their own Parliament might say "no".
Governments have no say in what goes on in the EU Commission or Parliament. I mean, sure, most of the time the MEPs coming out of the government-aligned parties will have similar votes, but the EU elections aren't in-step with most countries' elections, so it's never a 1:1 translation. And even then, many MEPs will just vote on their own.
This is such a charitable reading that it’s probably fair to assume this is OPs alt account.
Holy fuck, watch out when opening the fridge, mate, OP might jump out of it!
So, even if Germany retained its support and the motion went forward, it could still get smashed during the vote.
Why risk it even being considered for a law, when so many governments have become emboldened by Taco to show their real colours? The soonest it can be put down to rest, the better.
Not going to downvote this because the source article is useful, but OP’s take is ludicrous. Have we really reached the point where ALL media is propaganda?
It might be time to unplug society and plug it back in again.
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Have we really reached the point where ALL media is propaganda?
Always has been.
Good news. But I'm downvoting that post. OP's living in reverse crying-wolf land, it seems.
First, Chat Control got further than previous attempts, with a bigger scope than ever. Being worried about that is not the result of propaganda.
Second, a lot of countries where on board, including Germany. Stuff changed after lot of feedback. You can be cynical all you want arguing that "people's voice don't matter" and saying there's no causality there, but people made themselves heard, and thing moved. There's no telling what would have happened if they didn't.
The proposal being ultimately shot down (this time!) does not mean, at ALL, that it wasn't a very dangerous one.
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Second, a lot of countries where on board, including Germany
That means nothing. The governments (which the stances of were being counted) have not that much to say on how the MEPs will vote.
For example, if the Polish government was in favour of this, half of their MEPs would've still been against.
You can be cynical all you want arguing that “people’s voice don’t matter” and saying there’s no causality there, but people made themselves heard, and thing moved
I think he's arguing the exact opposite, mate. He literally said that:
EU is a democracy with different opinions, and when a small group of facists tries to read your chats, it does not represent the EU opinion
There was a lot of panic about the EU being an oppressive "over-government", trying to subjugate the population like the UK government is doing. That propaganda never made sense to me, but it felt very much like something the pro-russian mob would be spewing because it sows division and chaos, decreasing people's appreciation of the EU, stoking exit views.
The message here is: "don't believe when people start screaming that the EU is a fascist organisation that wants to subjugate the population".
Because there was A LOT of that online when Chat Control reared its head.
The difference between a fascist government and a democratic government can be distressingly thin, something we should all be aware of by now.
In this case, the EU has just proven it is currently on the right side of that divide. When extremely unpopular and authoritarian ideas were considered, the public felt able to voice their disapproval and the government felt they had to listen. That is a crucial step. Good for you all.
Sadly it likely will continue to require major work to keep the public on guard against future attempts like this one, but that’s life.
That's the same EU that mandates online de-anonymisation, punishable with up to a year in prison, as a last minute amendment to an unrelated CSAM-directive.
Some press releases: (1), (2), (3)
PRESS RELEASE I European Parliament votes to force pornographic websites to use effective age-verification tools to protect minors - FAFCE
Strasbourg, 18 June 2025 The Federation of Catholic Family Association in Europe (FAFCE) welcomes the decision of the European Parliament to force pornographic websites to put in place "robust and effective age verification tools to effectively prev…admin (FAFCE)
Have you read the sources you posted?
Negotiations will now begin between the Parliament, the Council of the EU, which represents national governments, and the European Commission to determine the final shape of the law.
Nobody is mandating anything - yet.
Sure, it might end up like that, but - to date - the Commission has been rather sensible when it comes to such things. They also have the example of UK that shows that the law works against its intentions by driving people towards unregulated and more dangerous websites.
We'll see how it goes.
That's simply how any EU directive works: EU decides what must happen, and it's up to the individual countries to put it into their respective laws.
That way people get angry at their federal government instead. Who can point their finger higher up. Who can then point to the countries specific implementation in their turn. It's a neat trick. Nobody's responsible for anything.
the law works against its intentions
When has that ever stopped a puritan?
EU decides what must happen, and it’s up to the individual countries to put it into their respective laws.
Wow, it's so weird that the article you linked lied, then!
No, it's saying that exact thing: online users of porn must be deanonymised on penalty of prison. To stop child abuse because that's related somehow?
It's just that the countries themselves must choose the particulates: who will do the deanonymisation, in what way, what will enforcement look like, etc.
That's what they mean with "the final shape of the law hasn't been determined yet".
Every EU directive works that way: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Directiv…
A directive is a legal act of the European Union[1] that requires member states to achieve particular goals without dictating how the member states achieve those goals
In this case: the de-anonymisation must happen. Up to the respective countries to do the dirty work.
When people, rightfully, get angry the local politician will say "we had to because EU". And the EU will say "well we didn't say it had to be in that way, it's your local politician that did that."
Are you reading your own sources...?
A directive is a legal act of the European Union that requires member states to achieve particular goals without dictating how the member states achieve those goals
Considering (another quote from your own sources):
Negotiations will now begin between the Parliament, the Council of the EU, which represents national governments, and the European Commission to determine the final shape of the law
They might as well look at the UK, and go "OK, lets have the user click that they pinky promise they're 18".
I have: here's the relevant paragraph from the directive:
Amendment 186
Proposal for a directive
Article 3 – paragraph 2 a (new)
2a. Disseminating pornographic content online without putting in place robust and effective age verification tools to effectively prevent children from accessing pornographic content online shall be punishable by a maximum term of imprisonment of at least 1 year.
Pinky promise is explicitely not allowed.
And you're doing the exact thing: blaming the specific implementation 🙂 It's so sad that that still tricks people. Is this your first time learning how a EU directive works?
That's basically the definition of democracy.
"Democracy is a horrible system, but nobody has invented anything better yet". Can't remember who said it. Churchill, maybe?
If that graphic is accurate, the media didn't "get" anyone. Seems some countries are actually gun-ho with the elimination of privacy, and its a movement that doesn't die with one failed vote.
Y'all are getting too fucking comfortable. Authoritarianism is always around the corner, even when things feel safe.
Maybe I don't understand, but the fact there is a vote for it (or even just talk about it) is enough for me to warrant everyones immediate action.
I'm glad the media got this to our attention asap, because we were able to react quickly (and stop this.. hopefully its stopped and wont continue or come back).
Edit: commented then read others, think ppl agree with this and they say it better than I have.
P.s. i really don't like this post and hopefully it doesn't change anyones mind about action on this type of stuff in the future.. we need action and to keep fightijg to keep our freedoms.
"let your motto be 'eternal vigilance is the price we pay for liberty.'"
Freedom dies in the silence of the many at the hands of the few. We must always be adamant with opposition, because it’s hard to undo what has been done. The easiest way to put the genie back in the bottle is never letting it out in the first place.
The fact that these guys even proposed (and more than once) something that so profoundly violates the fundamental right to privacy of European citizens is cause for great alarm.
OP's post seems like propaganda to me and of the lazy kind.
What kind of nonsense is this writeup? Media "got to me"? Look, you see Denmark? You see how it's in support of chat control?
Yeah, that's my country. So it's a rather serious issue here.
People here are very groupthink.
When Tesla was at like 250 in the stock market just six months ago, I said that the stock will recover very soon. But the groupthink here was totally agreeing with eachother that Tesla is gone forever, and people kept posting Elon doing nazi gestures and saying they are done.
Now, the stock is over 400. But no posts is made about that and how maybe the groupthink was completely wrong. Instead the next thing is ongoing.
We have evidence around us all the time how the group is completely wrong in their assumptions. Majority opinion is not right by default.
I'm talking about all the opinions already made up, that EU wanted to take away encryption and give us chat control.
They didnt want that.
It's like saying Denmark wants to throw out all immigrants, just because a small minority is proposing it. They dont.
Democracy is just great for media outlets, because they can bandwagon stupid proposals.
Moving docker image data between VMs
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The first rule of containers is that you do not store any data in containers.
The second rule of containers is that you run them from a versioned config with proper volumes and tagging. Always.
If you obey these rules, then it's as simple as moving the volumes to another host and starting your containers. They're fully portable that way.
The first rule of containers is that you do not store any data in containers.
Do you mean they should be bind mounts? From here, a bind mount should look like this:
version: '3.8'
services:
my_container:
image: my_image:latest
volumes:
- /path/on/host:/path/in/container
So referring to my Firefly compose above, then I shoudl simply be able to copy over the /var/www/html/storage/upload for the main app data and the database stored in here /var/lib/mysql can just be copied over? but then why does my local folder not have any strorage/upload folders?
user@vm101:/var/www/html$ ls
index.html
I'm not clear from your question, but I'm guessing you're talking about data stored in Docker volumes? (if they are bind mounts you're all good - you can just copy it). The compose files I found online for FireflyIII use volumes, but Hammond looked like bind mounts. If you're not sure, post your compose files here with the secrets redacted.
To move data out of a Docker volume, a common way is to mount the volume into a temporary container to copy it out. Something like:
docker run --rm \
-v myvolume:/from \
-v $(pwd):/to \
alpine sh -c "cd /from && tar cf /to/myvolume.tar ."Then on the machine you're moving to, create the new empty Docker volume and do the temporary copy back in:
docker volume create myvolume
docker run --rm \
-v myvolume:/to \
-v $(pwd):/from \
alpine sh -c "cd /to && tar xf /from/myvolume.tar"Or, even better, just untar it into a data directory under your compose file and bind mount it so you don't have this problem in future. Perhaps there's some reason why Docker volumes are good, but I'm not sure what it is.
The Firefly III Data Importer will ask you for the Firefly III URL and a "Client ID".
# You can generate the Client ID at http://localhost/profile (after registering)
# The Firefly III URL is: http://app:8080/
#
# Other URL's will give 500 | Server Error
#
services:
app:
image: fireflyiii/core:latest
hostname: app
container_name: firefly_iii_core
networks:
- firefly_iii
restart: always
volumes:
- firefly_iii_upload:/var/www/html/storage/upload
env_file: .env
ports:
- '84:8080'
depends_on:
- db
db:
image: mariadb:lts
hostname: db
container_name: firefly_iii_db
networks:
- firefly_iii
restart: always
env_file: .db.env
volumes:
- firefly_iii_db:/var/lib/mysql
importer:
image: fireflyiii/data-importer:latest
hostname: importer
restart: always
container_name: firefly_iii_importer
networks:
- firefly_iii
ports:
- '81:8080'
depends_on:
- app
env_file: .importer.env
cron:
#
# To make this work, set STATIC_CRON_TOKEN in your .env file or as an environment variable and replace REPLACEME below
# The STATIC_CRON_TOKEN must be *exactly* 32 characters long
#
image: alpine
container_name: firefly_iii_cron
restart: always
command: sh -c "echo \"0 3 * * * wget -qO- http://app:8080/api/v1/cron/XTrhfJh9crQGfGst0OxoU7BCRD9VepYb;echo/" | crontab - && crond -f -L /dev/stdout"
networks:
- firefly_iii
volumes:
firefly_iii_upload:
firefly_iii_db:
networks:
firefly_iii:
driver: bridge
Great. There's two volumes there - firefly_iii_upload & firefly_iii_db.
You'll definitely want to docker compose down first (to ensure the database is not being updated), then:
docker run --rm \
-v firefly_iii_db:/from \
-v $(pwd):/to \
alpine sh -c "cd /from && tar cf /to/firefly_iii_db.tar ."and
docker run --rm \
-v firefly_iii_upload:/from \
-v $(pwd):/to \
alpine sh -c "cd /from && tar cf /to/firefly_iii_upload.tar ."Then copy those two .tar files to the new VM. Then create the new empty volumes with:
docker volume create firefly_iii_db
docker volume create firefly_iii_uploadAnd untar your data into the volumes:
docker run --rm \
-v firefly_iii_db:/to \
-v $(pwd):/from \
alpine sh -c "cd /to && tar xf /from/firefly_iii_db.tar"
docker run --rm \
-v firefly_iii_upload:/to \
-v $(pwd):/from \
alpine sh -c "cd /to && tar xf /from/firefly_iii_upload.tar"Then make sure you've manually brought over the compose file and those two .env files, and you should be able to docker compose up and be in business again. Good choice with Proxmox in my opinion.
I then created a dataset on my Truenas Scale machine and NFS exported to the VM on the same server. I simply cp -R to the new NFS mountpoint, edited the yml file with the new paths and voila! It seems to be working. I know that some docker container don't like working off NFS share so we'll see.
I wonder ho well this will work when the VM is on a different machine as the there is a network cable, a switch, etc. in between. If for any reason the nas goes down, the docker containers on the Proxmox VM will be crying as they'll lose the link to their volumes? Can anything be done about this? I guess it can never be as risilient as having VM and has on the same machine.
🤔
Interestingly, handling of volumes with podman is much more easier:
`podman volume export myvol --output myvol.tar`
`podman volume import myvol myvol.tar`
docs.podman.io/en/latest/markd…
I also checked the docker volume client documentation and there is no export command available like for podman.
docs.docker.com/reference/cli/…
Whatever you do, make sure you have working backups first.
I imagine you could copy the docker volumes over, but that's more work than of they're "mounts", in which case you can just copy the corresponding on the host.
Use scp or rclone or whatever to copy the files over
Judge Rules Feds Can't Pepper-Spray, Tear-Gas Journalists After Block Club Chicago And Others Sue
Against that backdrop, the order from U.S. District Judge Sara Ellis confirms journalists’ right to report and the public’s right to protest under the First Amendment.
“Whatever lawlessness is occurring is not occurring by peaceful protesters” and journalists, Ellis said after reading her decision aloud. Some actions by federal agents “clearly violate the constitution,” the judge said. “Individuals are allowed to protest. They are allowed to speak. That is guaranteed by the First Amendment to our Constitution, and it is a bedrock right that upholds our democracy.”
The order also requires federal agents to wear badges or other “visible identification” so the public can know who they are, with exceptions for those officers who work undercover.
Judge Rules Feds Can’t Pepper-Spray, Tear-Gas Journalists After Block Club Chicago And Others Sue
Block Club and news organizations sued the federal government for its actions against journalists outside the Broadview ICE detention facility. Four of our journalists have been shot with pepper-spray bullets and tear-gassed.Block Club Chicago Staff (Block Club Chicago)
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The Making of María Corina Machado
The Making of María Corina Machado | Caracas Chronicles
She moderated her tone in the lead-up to July 28, but Machado is now engaging with the MAGA camp. How did she get here after 25 years?Caracas Chronicles
Salesforce CEO says National Guard should patrol San Francisco, stunning his own PR team
Salesforce CEO says National Guard should patrol San Francisco -- stunning his own PR team | TechCrunch
Though Benioff's shift mirrors Silicon Valley's broader accommodation of Trump, the exchange offered a rare glimpse of just how far that repositioning can go.Connie Loizos (TechCrunch)
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The War May Be Declared Over But Our Struggle Isn’t
Yesterday came the announcement of Trump’s 20 point proposal. People are saying the nightmare is finally over. We want to believe it. We hope this is the end. But is it really?
Tomorrow, we’ll try to return to our home. We don’t know if we’ll even be able to reach it. We don’t know if it’s still standing. We just pray it is.
After two years of surviving hell, we are exhausted physically, mentally, spiritually. These two years hold stories that will be told for decades.
To everyone who stood with us in any way, thank you. I say this on behalf of every man, woman, and child in Gaza.
I’m attaching photos I took throughout these years. They show only a fraction of what we endured. They will remain as a reminder of the hardship, of the sacrifices, of the ones we lost.
May our martyrs rest in peace. My beloved cousin Wade, my uncle Muin, you are not forgotten. We live carrying your memories.
And to everyone who amplified our voices, we will never forget you either.
Now a new chapter begins: rebuilding from zero. In fact, from below zero. So please don’t let any “agreement” make you think the suffering has ended.
Gaza still needs you. We still need you just as before.
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Il sistema di barriere sulla foce che conduce le speranze di Dublino verso il mare - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Il sistema di barriere sulla foce che conduce le speranze di Dublino verso il mare - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Città costiera che si affaccia sul Mare d’Irlanda, la capitale dell’Isola Verde avrebbe potuto costituire da molti punti di vista l’esempio di un porto perfetto.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
Cair calls on Nobel Prize winner to renounce support for far-right, racist and fascist parties
An American civil rights group on Friday called on the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize winner to renounce her support for Zionism and fascism, including over her links to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s political party and right-wing groups in Europe.
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (Cair) said that they “strongly disagree” with the Nobel Prize committee’s decision to award the prize to Maria Corina Machado, who they said “delivered remarks at a conference of European fascists, including Geert Wilders and Marie Le Pen, which openly called for a new Reconquista, referencing the ethnic cleansing of Spanish Muslims and Jews in the 1500s”.
Cair calls on Nobel Prize winner to renounce support for far-right, racist and fascist parties
An American civil rights group on Friday called on the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize winner to renounce her support for Zionism and fascism, including over her links to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s political party and right-wing groups in Eur…MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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It is just 5 Norwegian libs. They are pretty unremarkable outside of being on the committee.
The Nobel Peace Price is a constant reminder of why you shouldn't trust Norway to do anything. Most of the others are also kind of jokes (especially the literature one which is similarly a load of Swedish libs who are only remarkable for being on the committee) but the peace price is a borderline parody at this point.
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No kidding.
Plus, as much as others or I may not like it, the selection criteria does not include a morality clause.
Broadly speaking, they grant the award to people who have
“done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”
Or you know, they could just revoke the noble peace prize and just not give it out this year. That would send a better message at this point.
What’s the whole point of handing out these awards every year if they’re not deserved?
Cair calls on Nobel Prize winner to renounce support for far-right, racist and fascist parties
An American civil rights group on Friday called on the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize winner to renounce her support for Zionism and fascism, including over her links to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s political party and right-wing groups in Europe.
Venezuelan opposition leader Maria Corina Machado was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize on Friday.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (Cair) said that they “strongly disagree” with the Nobel Prize committee’s decision to award the prize to Maria Corina Machado, who they said “delivered remarks at a conference of European fascists, including Geert Wilders and Marie Le Pen, which openly called for a new Reconquista, referencing the ethnic cleansing of Spanish Muslims and Jews in the 1500s”.
Cair calls on Nobel Prize winner to renounce support for far-right, racist and fascist parties
An American civil rights group on Friday called on the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize winner to renounce her support for Zionism and fascism, including over her links to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s political party and right-wing groups in Eur…MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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Thank you for posting this, OP.
Sweet lord, this was the best the opposition in Venezuela could do?
And this person won the Nobel Peace prize? It's disheartening.
Trump is putting his army in front of Venezuela because the US wants to steal the oil.
Give the US puppetet known for nothing noteworthy the last few years a 'nobel peace prize', then stage a coup in Venezuela and install the 'nobel peace prize winner'.
This has to be the most obvous psyop ever. At least it's clear now that the 'nobel peace prize' is basically a CIA endorsement.
Warpping Discord around a VPN
Try oniux for that, exactly what you need
Otherwise look into oniux and how to replace arti with wireguare/shadowsocks/xray/amneziawg
Do you have any tool to help with that? Ive set this up in the past, but it was pretty hands-on namespacing to get it to work rootless.
Edit: For completeness, here is a script similar to what I use.
A tiny script to run a VPN client and an app inside a network namespace
A tiny script to run a VPN client and an app inside a network namespace - wg-ns.shGist
networking.wireguard.interface.name.interfaceNamespace you can then move it into the container. For running applications I cannot really comment because I have only one service making use of the VPN which runs inside a NixOS container for which the namespace can be configured with --network-namespace-path=/run/netns/…
procustodibus.com/blog/2023/04…
volatilesystems.org/wireguard-…
ismailzai.com/blog/creating-wi…
On NixOS:
vtimofeenko.com/posts/wireguar…
One of these should work
GitHub - dadevel/wg-netns: WireGuard with Linux Network Namespaces
WireGuard with Linux Network Namespaces. Contribute to dadevel/wg-netns development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
i usually run wireproxy with cloudflare warp (wgcf) for this purpose
zapret might also work
ip route to route discord's IP addresses through a different interface like a VPN, alternatively you could launch discord with proxychains, there's many ways to do it
C-SPAN caller confronts House Speaker Mike Johnson about shutdown effects: 'My kids could die'
C-SPAN caller confronts House Speaker Mike Johnson about shutdown effects: 'My kids could die'
WASHINGTON — A C-SPAN caller made an emotional plea to House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., on Thursday to end the government shutdown, saying that “my kids could die” if she can’t afford their medicationMegan Lebowitz (NBC News)
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Tiiiiiiiiiime, its on my side. Yes it is!
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What a coincidence, life is already unpleasant!
Thanks for looking out for me when I am throughly uninterested in doing so myself. You are a gem. Don't change.
Hey, I'm not always taking the best care of myself either but I just know not all ways to go are equal and alcoholism is really unpleasant for the drinker in later stages, which is also when it's too late to change your mind and you just get long drawn out suffering compared to other morbidities.
That said, i do hope you can find some reasons to stick around a while even if it's just something as simple as making shitposts that make the rest of us chuckle and help brighten our days 😀
Server recommendations
Howdy folks,
I’ve come upon a solid amount of 4tb drives, 8 SAS drives for dirt cheap from a local biz. Never used. I saw a HP ProLiant DL385p Gen8 Server on eBay for $80 and thought it was a score since it had been the best deal. I’d been wanting to upgrade off my think center m710. Curious any recommendations for this? My current setup is as follows:
Main server:
Lenovo think center m710
16gb, gt 1030, 2 4tb HDD sata, one 500gb ssd sata
Ubuntu lts
Docker compose
- Arr stack
-Gluetun with open on proton in Germany
-qbittorrent
-sonarr
-radarr
-Overseer
-cleanuparr
-prowlarr
-plex
-navidrome
-audiobookshelf
-Minecraft server (modded: neoforge itzg)
-immich
-bunch of others that aren’t fully working like tatuli or plex wrapped
Secondary
Thinkpad x220 (loved this shit through college)
16gbRAM, 250ssd sata
Arch
Docker compose
-searxng
-pihole dns
I’m still looking in to some security system ideas as I’d like to use some storage and maybe do that with some of it. Or some cybersecurity projects or a banned book library or something. I’m open to any suggestions to help this go as smooth as I can make it and as fun as it can be.
I think the real question is going to be whether your power bill is going to be worth it. Running a large chassis server to power such old and small drives seems like kind of a bad trade considering how much more sense storage is now.
A RAID5 array with these will yield you 28TB usable, and then you'd have to worry about getting the same drive dimensions to replace one if it goes down in the coming years, which is going to be tricky.
Frigate is great, but it needs a lot of cpu/gpu or a corel TPU. OP has old hardware, so I'm guessing a slow CPU.
Zoneminder is a non-AI cctv system. Also free. Not as fun to play with as Frigate but solid.
Brendan Carr wants to let internet providers charge hidden fees again
Brendan Carr wants to let internet providers charge hidden fees again
Broadband customers may find themselves blighted by unexpected charges again, thanks to Federal Communications Commission chairman Brendan Carr.Jess Weatherbed (The Verge)
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You're on Hexbear. There's your problem.
I suggest creating another account on some other instance. Start with Lemmyverse to find a nice one. Once you find an interesting instance, check Fediseer for more details. Click the little (i) next to the instance name in the Lemmyverse results, and navigate to Fediseer endorsements. If the instance has been endorsed, censored or whatever, this is the place where you'll find some info about it.
For example, here's what it says about Hexbear. As you can see in the "censures received" section, that list is pretty long. BTW all the biggest instances attract attention, so disagreement and conflict naturally follow. However, the way the instance is run plays a role too. If you want to access more communities, make an account on one of the less conspicuous instances that hasn't been blocked by others.
My Laptop and Desktop have been windows free for years now. I Unfortunately have 1 box that it's only purpose is to run software for my Line 6 Helix and Power Amp, and my 8bitdo controllers for firmware updates. However, that box I debloated, and remote into it from a superior system.
USB pasthrough used to work, and I'd run a VM but I no longer am able to do this.
Tbf, a lot of versions of Windows sucked.
(I wonder if anyone wrote up one of these for MS-DOS back in the pre Win9X era. That'd be interesting just to see the roots of the copypasta, lol.)
Everything is and always has been terrible. So why cant i want something that is terrible as a treat?
Depends what it is. A sleeve of Oreos or binging half a pie one night is probably fine.
Meth? Maybe reconsider.
Video: Watch the good people of Chicago prevent a kidnapping by ICE Gestapo @ 63rd & Cicero last week!
CHICAGO REPORTBACK!Watch the good people of Chicago prevent a kidnapping by ICE Gestapo @ 63rd & Cicero last week!
#fuckice, #chingalamigra, #gestapo, #chicago, #nooneisillegal, #refugeeswelcome, #YourBordersKill, #weprotectus
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The Hwasong series of ICBMs has given North Korea the capacity to target anywhere on the U.S. mainland, but questions remain over the sophistication of its guidance system to reach a target, and the ability of a warhead it carries to withstand atmospheric re-entry.
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DeSantis calls on patriotic Floridians to fight back against ICE
Freshly after passing permitless open carry, Florida governor Ron DeSantis now calls upon patriotic Floridians to defend the state against invasion by Immigration and Customs Inforcement (ICE). "It's communism" he says, "we don't do communism here."
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Technology reshared this.
Maybe the NYT's headline writers' eyes weren't that great to begin with?
The tech could represent the end of visual fact — the idea that video could serve as an objective record of reality — as we know it.
We already declared that with the advent of photoshop. I don't want to downplay the possibility of serious harm being a result of misinformation carried through this medium. People can be dumb. I do want to say the sky isn't falling. As the slop tsunami hits us we are not required to stand still, throw our hands in the air, and take it. We will develop tools and sensibilities that will help us not to get duped by model mud. We will find ways and institutions to sieve for the nuggets of human content. Not all at once but we will get there.
This is fear mongering masquerading as balanced reporting. And it doesn't even touch on the precarious financial situations the whole so-called AI bubble economy is in.
You couldn't "trust" video before sora et al. We had all these sightings of aliens and flying saucers - which stopped conveniently having an impact when everybody started carrying cameras around.
There will be a need to verify authenticity and my prediction is that need will be met.
The tech could represent the end of visual fact — the idea that video could serve as an objective record of reality — as we know it.We already declared that with the advent of photoshop.
I think that this is "video" as in "moving images". Photoshop isn't a fantastic tool for fabricating video (though, given enough time and expense, I suppose that it'd be theoretically possible to do it, frame-by-frame). In the past, the limitations of software have made it much harder to doctor up --- not impossible, as Hollywood creates imaginary worlds, but much harder, more expensive, and requiring more expertise --- to falsify a video of someone than a single still image of them.
I don't think that this is the "end of truth". There was a world before photography and audio recordings. We had ways of dealing with that. Like, we'd have reputable organizations whose role it was to send someone to various events to attest to them, and place their reputation at stake. We can, if need be, return to that.
And it may very well be that we can create new forms of recording that are more-difficult to falsify. A while back, to help deal with widespread printing technology making counterfeiting easier, we rolled out holographic images, for example.
I can imagine an Internet-connected camera --- as on a cell phone --- that sends a hash of the image to a trusted server and obtains a timestamped, cryptographic signature. That doesn't stop before-the-fact forgeries, but it does deal with things that are fabricated after-the-fact, stuff like this:
The real danger is the failing trust in traditional news sources and the attack on the truth from the right.
People have been believing what they want regardless of if they see it for a long time and AI will fuel that but is not the root of the problem.
Traditional news sources became aggregators of actual news sources and open source Intel, and have made "embellishing" the norm. Stock/reused visuals, speculating minutes into events, etc etc
It is increasingly faked. The right just pretends that means they're lies that feel "good" are the truth
Videos are now basically have the same weights as words, no longer a "smoking gun". Videos basically become like eyewitness testimony, well... its slightly better as it protect against misremembering or people with inadequate lexicon and unable to clearly articulate what they saw. The process wil become: get the witness to testify they had posession of the camera, was recording at the time of incident, and they believe the video being presented in court is genuine and have not been altered, then its basically a video version of their eyewitness testimony. The credibility of the video is now tied to the witness/camera-person's own credibility, and should not be evaluated as an independent evidence, but the jury should treat the video as the witnese's own words, meaning, they should factor in the possibility the witness faked it.
A video you see on the internet is now just as good as just a bunch of text, both equally unreliable.
We live in a post-truth world now.
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And that's perfect, that's the world that made all the due process and similar things evolve.
There's never been such a thing as independent evidence. The medium has always mattered. And when people started believing this is no more true, we've almost gotten ourselves a new planetary fascist empire, I hope we're still in time to stop that.
Videos are now basically have the same weights as words...We live in a post-truth world now.
It's interesting that you start with a bold statement that is IMHO correct, namely that namely what was once taken as unquestionable truth now isn't, but also it's not new, just yet another media, but still conclude that it's different.
Arguably we were already in a post-truth World, always have been, it only extends to a medium we considered too costly to fake until now. The principle is still the same.
In the Middle Ages people believed in creatures nobody had ever seen. And the legal systems and the concepts of knowledge were not very good.
And still the latter evolved to become better long before people started recording sounds to wax cylinders and shooting photos.
In the Middle Ages people believed in creatures nobody had ever seen
FWIW even centuries later, during Linneaus time, people were actually looking for unicorns.
Meh we're not there yet. But the day is coming.
"The Running Man" predicted the future!
Everything is permitted
That’s not really feasible without phones doing this automatically.
Even then didn’t the first Trump admin already argue iPhone video can’t be trusted because it’s modified with AI filters?
Sign every video automatically? Sounds like chatcontrol all over.
Also, I could just generate a video on my computer and film it with my phone. Now it's signed, even has phone artifacts for added realism.
it means if you see a logo that shows CNN, and its signed by CNN, then you know for sure that CNN released it. As a news organisation they should have their own due diligence about sources etc, but they can at least be held to account at that point.
versus random ai generated video with a fake logo and fake attribution that is going viral and not being able to be discredited in time before it becomes truth.
then you know for sure that CNN released it.
Why not link to the original CNN source then, if you want to be trusted? You'd have to do that anyways if you want to use the CNN footage in your own video.
I don't think people who care about the validity of a news video will be helped much with this, and people who don't care about the truth can easily ignore it too.
As a news organisation they should have their own due diligence about sources etc
But what if they can't anymore? News orgs don't only show video that they recorded. They have videos from freelance reporters, people who were at an event, government orgs, other news orgs in other countries...
building a web of trust has to start somewhere.
currently we're in the "its all very difficult, we cant solve all the tricky things, so we're not even trying" stage.
hopefully we find a way to move forward, even if its not perfect.
also: if a pixel changes then it isn't the original source video, by definition. being able to determine that it has been altered is entirely the point.
The point was to sign AI footage so you know what's fake. NFTs can be used as a decentralized repository of signatures. You could realistically require the companies to participate, but the idea doesn't work because you can edit footage so it doesn't match the signature. More robust signatures exist, but none is good enough, especially since the repo would have to be public.
Signing real footage makes even less sense. You'd have to trust everybody and their uncle's signature.
A digital signature works with public/private keys and content hashes. This is a solved problem.
In fact, it's part of secure DNS.
How does that answer my question, how do NFTs help an organization prove that a key belongs to them?
NFTs and blockchains are an entirely virtual construct that can't affect the real world, or take trusted, non-key inputs from the real world. That's not 100% true, but it is mostly true.
So really, you need a way to tie or bind a key to an identity or organization. You could perhaps sign some data, such as a domain name with a key on a chain, but that doesn't prove anything. Anyone could sign anything with any key, so you need to approach the problem from the other direction.
You can install the key directly, or the hash of the key into DNS, verifiers can retrieve the key from DNS, then resolve it to the full key if necessary. You can then use the key to verify signatures of signed data.
Why DNS? Because that is currently the most standard way to identify organizations on the internet. Also, much of the security of the internet is directly bound to DNS. For example, getting certificates for websites often entails changing a DNS record at the request of an issuer to prove that you own the domain in question.
This is not an idea I invented just now, there are multiple DNS record types that have been defined for literally decades at this point which allow an organization to publish keys to DNS. Among the first is this: rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2535#sec… Not completely related, but it is a key of some kind published to DNS.
I don't think NFTs provide any useful functionality in helping organizations prove that a key is theirs, at least nothing much better than a simpler solution which already exists.
It's kind of besides the point. Yes they don't add anything unique and yes it was most likely because if hype, but NFTs is just what they used in the wip to store the signatures on, but the core principle is flawed no matter what you put it on.
Sorry I thought you suggested DNS to solve the core issues.
Cryptographic signatures are something we should have been normalizing for awhile now.
I remember during the LTT Linux challenge, at one point they were assigned the task "sign a PDF." Linus interpreted this as PGP sign the document, which apparently Okular can do but he didn't have any credentials set up. Luke used some online tool to photoshop an image of his handwriting into the document.
Is this going to kill Onlyfans?
Or is the market decidedly because Onlyfans is about personal creators and thus it's more meaningful than porn?
But when short AI videos become so good you can't tell if you're being catfished, will it feel the same?
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Deestan
in reply to punkibas • • •My pet pony keeps shitting on the floor.
I am very frustrated and did not expect it.
I should sell it off and buy a horse instead.
athairmor
in reply to Deestan • • •PostaL
in reply to athairmor • • •Deestan
in reply to athairmor • • •unwarlikeExtortion
in reply to athairmor • • •No. It's more as if you had to pay for the pony to get it, and then:
If you want to ride the pony, that's $2. The saddle has a coin slot to pay. It also has spikes poking both you and the pony if you don't pay. Any time you get off, the spikes relock, requiring another payment to unlock.
This is the exact same situation minus the animal cruelty part and with money being swapped with time.
riot
in reply to punkibas • • •Personally, I disagree with the first and agree with the latter. I have a Nest Hub, and there are no ads on that. But I would still urge the redditor and myself to get acquainted with Home Assistant instead of bothering with the offerings from Google and Amazon.
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in reply to riot • • •It's not even personal opinion, it's objective fact...
Amazon shoves ads on everyone of their products far and above any competitors.
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Fair Fairy
in reply to riot • • •Just get Chinese, they won't be able to do anything to you even if info is collected
Whostosay
in reply to Fair Fairy • • •Fair Fairy
in reply to Whostosay • • •socialsecurity
in reply to Fair Fairy • • •Or just don't buy products from companies that don't respect you...
Buying chinese is like going to the guy who beats you less because he spending half the time at his other girlfriend's house.
Fair Fairy
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in reply to socialsecurity • • •socialsecurity
in reply to Fair Fairy • • •Fair Fairy
in reply to socialsecurity • • •I don't. Never used it In my life.
I even switched my android TV to alternative launcher because I don't want Google peddling shit
ghosthacked
in reply to Fair Fairy • • •Fair Fairy
in reply to ghosthacked • • •I use projectivity
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edit: it's incredible to me, that people put as much trust as they do in the entire world
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in reply to U7826391786239 • • •Dyskolos
in reply to lightnegative • • •BarbedDentalFloss
in reply to lightnegative • • •That's from the ancient banking system designed in the 1940s that is still lurching around. The protection on a check isn't cryptographic - it relies on the issuing bank to confirm the authenticity by examining heuristics on the paper check like paper type, ink and font used, check number, issuing address and the person's signature. It used to be that you would deposit a check at your bank and then it would be mailed to the issuing bank to be cleared for transfer. You wouldn't just deposit it and get your money instantly, it would take up to 10 days.
Honestly it is bewildering to me that they haven't changed the system to issue cryptographically secure deposit-only numbers and unique withdrawal numbers that at least verify the authenticity of the check itself.
Pika
in reply to U7826391786239 • • •In the case of smart tv's it's obvious why it works. It's way cheaper to buy a smart tv vs a dumb tv now, and It's all companies make for consumer side, which only leaves business grade TV's/advertisement boards which cost more. Even if this isn't the case though, with how streaming oriented most people are, the general public won't buy a dumb tv because they would still need to buy some sort of device to allow them to access their stuff. It's just convenient to have it in the same device rather than buy a tv then spend another $25+ on a device that can allow access to streaming, when one device can do it all.
I upgraded to a "decent" Smart TV for my den (my previous one was an early stage Phillips smart TV that the store was basically deprecated on), and it converted 3 devices I had for my dumb tv, into that one device. It's just convenient.
I personally think that people should be focusing more on not buying slop-ware, and working on implementing legislation of what companies are allowed to do to consumer purchased products before trying to revert back to dumb tv's and spending 3x as much. The future is going to happen regardless, and people are going to take the easy way out, the easier way is going to be preventing the annoyances from being allowed in the first place.
GreyEyedGhost
in reply to Pika • • •U7826391786239
in reply to Pika • • •you do you. enjoy your convenience. for my part, i will continue to spend $0.00 for the privilege of being the product.
all of these brands can take their smart devices and go fuck themselves with it. "convenient" GTFO
whyNotSquirrel
in reply to CatZoomies • • •melroy
in reply to punkibas • • •Haha. Are people even supprised? I mean come on.
The best thing you can do, is just DIY your own display with a microcontroller and have some fun in building it. Maybe run Linux on it and voila.
alphabethunter
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in reply to alphabethunter • • •They have a strong foundation in the DRM built into HDMI. I suspect this is exactly the real reason it is there.
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in reply to punkibas • • •"Advertising is a small part of the experience".
Well great Amazon. Nobody is asking for this 'experience'.
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in reply to punkibas • • •ByteOnBikes
in reply to RedGreenBlue • • •I run Pi-hole, and ublock.
I went to my pal's house and turn on his TV, ad. He turned on his Xbox, ad. Was looking for a specific game on his Xbox, another fucking ad.
"Too complicated" he says when I suggested setting him up with a raspberry pi.
deranger
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •givesomefucks
in reply to punkibas • • •The track record for people using that condescending phrase while not understanding what's happening continues...
The smart TVs operate on Android TV, made by Google.
Amazon uses their own version of Android, and that's where all the shitty stuff comes from.
I've got a nice name brand android TV, the only ads are "this movie is on streaming" or "this show premieres in a week".
I got a cheap Amazon TV in another room, in the same place for ads on the home screen, it has ads for random products
There is a marked difference. They are "better" at this. Obviously no one in 2025 thinks google is "good"
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in reply to selokichtli • • •I agree ...
Everyone else was talking about one thing, and you acted like I was talking about a bunch of other things.
That's why you're confused, we were talking about ads, and you got upset we weren't having another discussion.
Now why are antelopes the super ungulates?
See how little sense that makes?
NotKyloRen
in reply to selokichtli • • •No. As a user of both Amazon and Google devices (with screens/sticks), Amazon is far more aggressive in their advertising practices. As the other guy said, neither is ad-free out of the box, but Amazon devices will literally make your screensaver/lock screen a full screen ad (even on your TV). Google just has a home screen ad about something that's going to play on streaming, usually.
If you want NO ads, set up DNS ad blocking or get an Apple TV and use that for streaming. But again, Amazon's devices are FAR more aggressive about advertising as much as possible. My father has one of those Echo Show things that's a speaker with a rotating screen attached to it. It's playing ads almost all the time.
selokichtli
in reply to NotKyloRen • • •stealth_cookies
in reply to givesomefucks • • •I've been self hosting as much as I can for awhile. The one thing I don't have a good replacement solution for is Google TV. At least with alternate launchers and being able to install APKs (for now) it mostly works as a decent experience.
givesomefucks
in reply to stealth_cookies • • •Back in the day wed hook up old desktops straight to living room PCs. There was no apps so we'd just go to websites.
I'd be surprised if there isn't some kind of raspberry pi mini PC with a good guinerap around Linux.
Some people will use a PlayStation/Xbox as well.
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in reply to givesomefucks • • •ripcord
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in reply to ripcord • • •That isn't an option either.
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in reply to punkibas • • •nosuchanon
in reply to Fair Fairy • • •Why anyone would want a corporate government surveillance wire tap that’s connected to the Internet and constantly listening for voice command is beyond me.
My friend used an Alexa and smart plugs to rewire all the lights in his house because it was cheaper to get the Wi-Fi connected lights and sockets rather than rewiring the whole house.
In order to keep the thing running, no one was allowed to touch any of the lights switches on the walls because it would break the system. It was fucking hilarious listening to him yell at his Alexa to turn on the lights in the living room and have it turn on the dining room instead.
He even had the screen on the base that would follow you around as you were walking in the house and this creepy screen would constantly be monitoring you while waiting for commands.
If anyone walked in it just looked like he was screaming at the top of his refrigerator about the lights in the house.
tal
in reply to nosuchanon • • •I assume that there's a segment of the population that:
I will say that I'm still more than a little fuzzy on what substantial practical benefits people are actually getting from their deployed systems, though.
For at least some of this, like having a voice command to check the weather, a smartphone has to be pretty widely-deployed competition.
nosuchanon
in reply to tal • • •The convenience is being able to sit your fat ass on the couch and yell vaguely in the direction of a smart assistant to turn off the lights without having to get off the couch.
The idea that a smart refrigerator could tell you when you’re about out of milk or coming up on the expiration date instead of having to open your fridge and take a look is cool but the privacy and other implications outweigh the benefits.
It’s a mild convenience that supposedly frees up extra time to do something else. The sad part is that something else is usually staying glued to your phone, social media, or TV.
okmko
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in reply to punkibas • • •CerebralHawks
in reply to punkibas • • •Isn't there a saying about this? "Leopards ate my face" or something like that?
It's like TVs... Google TV, Android TV, Chromecast, Fire TV... it's all ads, all the way down. Apple TV though? Just a grid of apps. Certain apps on the dock (the top shelf as it's called) could display ads because they're allowed to display content in the top half, but I haven't seen it done. Video apps typically just show what's up next in your queue and maybe something suggested. But you can control what goes on the dock.
Can't block ads on it and YouTube is fundamentally broken for it (despite there being no ad blocker between the app and the service). I'm looking into getting a gently used M1 Mac Mini for my TV, and wiring one of those Bluetooth keyboard/mouse things up to it. That way I can just run Firefox with uBlock Origin and call it a day.
Fuck all these "smart" devices. Can't win with any of them. Meanwhile you can get a Raspberry Pi and be running Linux on your TV. That might introduce some challenges, but hey, you got Plex (/Jellyfin/whatever) anyway.
x00z
in reply to CerebralHawks • • •"Leopards at my face" comes from claiming that your face would not get eaten while advocating for leopards eating faces.
If you would use it in the context of ads, it would be more along the lines of claiming you will not get ads because you are "special" while the thing just straight up says it will serve you ads.
I don't think the thing is advertised as something to serve you ads, so it's not the same.
circuscritic
in reply to CerebralHawks • • •Not entirely true, but necessarily false either.
Projectivy launcher for Android TV is great and will remove home screen ads, and provide a much more streamlined interface overall.
Apple TV is really nice though, clean, smooth, and stable. I honestly would recommend that to most people, especially if they already have Apple products.
CerebralHawks
in reply to circuscritic • • •Even without having other Apple products. The only real benefit I see with the Apple TV — I do have other Apple products — is I can AirPlay to it. But, it isn't very stable for whatever reason. The connection will just drop. So I AirPlay to the TV itself instead, and that works, though sometimes the audio doesn't, so I just route it back to the MacBook, which has very good speakers, and it's fine. Or I grab my Thunderbolt to HDMI and plug in directly, turn the TV into a monitor — but, this bypasses the Apple TV (but, so does AirPlaying to the TV itself). Oh, and I can use my phone or watch as a remote. All in all it's perfectly fine if you don't have any other Apple stuff.
The one thing it's really lacking is some Dolby codec that people need to play Blu-ray rips. People in communities like Plex and Jellyfin complain about that. But those are like 50GB+ per movie, I don't have that kind of storage to even come close to caring about that issue. It can still play 4K content, just not with that one codec.
In fact, it's probably one of the best Apple devices out there, just because the competition is so much worse. I'd also say the same thing about the iPad, and the MacBook. You can make a case for a gaming PC, but for a laptop that isn't gonna game because battery is an issue, you're going for efficiency, it's really hard to beat the MacBook. As for the iPad, it's hard to tell which Android tablets are good and which ones aren't — or which ones will never get updated. And iPad got a lot of love this year, it's basically a desktop OS now (it's like macOS lite at this point). No, you still can't install whatever you want — need an actual computer for that.
deranger
in reply to CerebralHawks • • •Appoxo
in reply to CerebralHawks • • •Boo Amazon
Boo Google
Certain Lemmy users using Apple devices adn advocating for it:
Hypocrisy at it's finest.
BeeegScaaawyCripple
in reply to Appoxo • • •excuse me i'm on an hp they've never ever ever done anything wrong
why yes i buy brother printers why do you ask
chuymatt
in reply to Appoxo • • •BarbedDentalFloss
in reply to Appoxo • • •Look at it this way - how does a business make its money?
That's the difference. They're all shit companies from multiple angles. But at least Apple doesn't actively disrespect you with unwanted advertising targetted to you by spying on you. They disrespect you by removing headphone jacks and making silicon valley executives behave like steve jobs who was notoriously a horrible person.
Appoxo
in reply to BarbedDentalFloss • • •Welp...
I don't like my wallet being drained 30% faster ;)
But nowadays it's Google inching closer to Apple (sadly)
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in reply to punkibas • • •FauxFax
in reply to punkibas • • •... Ah yes. Here we see that, while frustrated, the consumer remains largely undeterred from fitting into the boxes outlined by our fearless corpo overlords.
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in reply to firepenny • • •Tuxman
in reply to punkibas • • •I had a Kindle Fire in 2012 and had to root it just to stop ads from showing up on the locked screen
Romkslrqusz
in reply to Tuxman • • •Ad-subsidized or pay more for an ad-free model
Appoxo
in reply to Romkslrqusz • • •Did that and they removed the ads for me.
Tuxman
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in reply to Tuxman • • •AA5B
in reply to Tuxman • • •But they have gotten significantly worse over time. I did buy a Fire Stick knowing i was getting ads, but it was so much better the Apps on my smart tv and cheap that it was well worth it. Now it’s gotten bad enough that I no longer use it but suffer through the TV’s apps
I do plan on trying Apple TV in case it stays useable but at this point I’m not buying consumer tech from three years ago
Similarly with the Fire tablet. I knew I was getting ads when I bought them way back when, but tablets were expensive. Fire tablets were much cheaper and quite usable so the tradeoff was worth it. That long since stopped being true, and this experience is e partly why I don’t have an echo show.
I do want some dory of home dashboard, but echo show had never been under consideration. If the Apple rumors are real I might try that but otherwise I guess I’ll see when I have the motivation to build my own
Edit: rereading the post, this is even on devices where people paid extra to be ad free
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in reply to vaultdweller013 • • •Pika
in reply to Tuxman • • •Yes it has, every amazon product is massively subsidized price wise with the expectation they make it up via advertisements.
I think the only one that really didn't fall down that train was the alexa, but, well we already know where they are making it up on that one.
sp3ctr4l
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in reply to ayyy • • •Holytimes
in reply to ayyy • • •To be fair I put in all my smart lights once 7 years ago haven't touched them a single time in that entire span. Took an hour to set up.
And now my alarm turns on lights which helps me wake up 😁
ayyy
in reply to Holytimes • • •Damage
in reply to ayyy • • •My smart switches have zero downtime. If I attack my server with an hatchet I lose smart functionality but pressing the switch still works, just like yours.
It doesn't take much to avoid the bullshit devices.
donalonzo
in reply to BanMe • • •Exactly. It's not the smart part of a device that is the problem. That's an extreme overreaction.
The problem with most smart devices today is that they are proprietary, non-fully libre and open source, for-profit, cloud-connected, corporate committee designed spyware, adware, and bloatware.
Devices that are fully FLOSS (firmware, hardware, software) and based on open and free standards and protocols are awesome, but they get easily forgotten.
The Internet and your technology can be so much better. Demand it.
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in reply to donalonzo • • •Lucidlethargy
in reply to Alaknár • • •Z-wave or zigbee. They use an alternative to wifi.
User in tandem with a open source system like home assistant.
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in reply to punkibas • • •FreedomAdvocate
in reply to punkibas • • •What are you talking about? Google Home devices have been out for like a decade at this point, they don’t play ads on them.
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in reply to FreedomAdvocate • • •tempest
in reply to h54 • • •The Alexa division is struggling so they are well into the extract phase of the product.
Google will get there in time as well.
w3dd1e
in reply to punkibas • • •I get that we should expect shit like this from Amazon but at the same time, they bought something and the maker completely changed how the device worked after they bought it.
I’d be pissed too. We have to hold these companies accountable.
like this
Drusas e riot like this.
FlashMobOfOne
in reply to w3dd1e • • •Corhen
in reply to FlashMobOfOne • • •Home assistant is the way to go, all run locally on a homePC, I have ZigBee lights and switches automated
An example is my front deck lights turn on at sundown, at 10% brightness, at 11;00 pm they drop to 1%.
If motion is detected they brighten up for a bit. On holidays they have appropriate RFB effects.
All of this is automated, none of it talks to the internet.
My current project is making a harry potter style "clock", with hands for me, my wife, and kids. Can set up some geofencing. Run off some ESPhome and the HA app, which reports directly to my install, without releasing tracking info.
FlashMobOfOne
in reply to Corhen • • •Corhen
in reply to FlashMobOfOne • • •Oh, for sure, it's just for fun
My entire design goal is making it invisible for my wife, so things just work. As an example, I took our doorbell, and made it smart... Not a smart doorbell, but I have an esphome between the doorbell and the chime, so I can turn the chime off, or I can have our phonea get notified.
w3dd1e
in reply to FlashMobOfOne • • •FlashMobOfOne
in reply to w3dd1e • • •PushButton
in reply to w3dd1e • • •Yeah, they totally deserve to be sued and pay a $5 fee as punishment.
That will teach them!
firepenny
in reply to punkibas • • •GreenKnight23
in reply to firepenny • • •firepenny
in reply to GreenKnight23 • • •spaghettiwestern
in reply to punkibas • • •This week Amazon starting pushing ads to customers paying extra for ad-free Prime Video.
Corporations are now so powerful they don't have to abide by reasonable norms, contracts, or laws any longer. Any fines are just a cost of doing business and are a small fraction of the profits they generate.
What are customers going to do anyway? Go to other businesses that are doing the exact same things on different days?
1984
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •People should give up streaming subscriptions. How long would it take to learn how to get movies another way, from a friend who is already doing it.
People dont even own their media anymore and it can be removed at any time. And they are paying for that. Lols.
yermaw
in reply to 1984 • • •Its for families mostly. I dont want my small children coming up to me all the time asking for a different show downloaded that they heard about from school, and Erica's parents actually HAVE Disney+ and says anyone who cmdoesnt must be a loser omg etc etc.
I taught my brother how to do it years ago, and he got his shit virused so fast. I'm not sure if hes colossally stupid or just plain unlucky.
auraithx
in reply to yermaw • • •Just get Real Debrid with Stremio/Kodi.
Real Debrid + Kodi + Bingie theme = Everything available on torrents, instantly streamable in a netflix-like interface.
Echolynx
in reply to yermaw • • •LaunchesKayaks
in reply to 1984 • • •1984
in reply to LaunchesKayaks • • •This is clicking buttons on your device. How did people install Instagram and use that without a degree?
I think people are just afraid of it.
freebee
in reply to 1984 • • •spaghettiwestern
in reply to 1984 • • •frog_meister
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •Convince themselves that it's necessary.
rumba
in reply to spaghettiwestern • • •We'll kick piracy into high gear.
Then they'll make any ISPs suspecting people of piracy to be forcibly shut off.
The real question is what will we do then?
sturger
in reply to rumba • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to punkibas • • •sasquatch7704
in reply to youmaynotknow • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to sasquatch7704 • • •yermaw
in reply to sasquatch7704 • • •I didnt see it coming. I assumed that having a device always available to add shit to your shopping basket and listen to everything you say forever would be enough for them.
Honestly it should be more than enough.
wellheh
in reply to yermaw • • •TomArrr
in reply to wellheh • • •Regrettable_incident
in reply to yermaw • • •1984
in reply to punkibas • • •pataconpisao
in reply to 1984 • • •Regrettable_incident
in reply to pataconpisao • • •bless
in reply to Regrettable_incident • • •myfunnyaccountname
in reply to punkibas • • •Cosmonauticus
in reply to myfunnyaccountname • • •Jack_Burton
in reply to Cosmonauticus • • •TheGrandNagus
in reply to Cosmonauticus • • •I can see the logic of being able to set certain items that you always want in stock, and your fridge being able to tell you if you're running low or if it's beyond its expiry.
Can smart fridges do that? I don't think so.
Even if they can, it's probably not worth the extra expense, complexity, data mining, security concerns, or the fact that Samsung or whoever can shut down functionality whenever they want.
I just want a basic fridge-freezer.
Flic
in reply to TheGrandNagus • • •Flic
in reply to Flic • • •Benchamoneh
in reply to Flic • • •phx
in reply to myfunnyaccountname • • •panda_abyss
in reply to punkibas • • •This is a real “the scorpion stung the frog” situation.
There was never any other way for this to go. Is in the scorpions nature to cram ads and tracking into your devices. That was always the strategy even with their Fire lines of devices.
Ring will be next. It’s already giving them your address, neighbourhood, routine, device types, etc. That data gates correlate to census income data, network traffic, etc. to build a profile of who you are as a consumer.
Regrettable_incident
in reply to panda_abyss • • •NauticalNoodle
in reply to panda_abyss • • •I believe there was just a post the other day arguing that Ring was beginning to collect biometric data on anyone that passed in front of it.
[Edit]It was A Boring Dystopia post from 6 days ago lemmy.ml/post/37147235
Gary Ghost
in reply to punkibas • • •Treczoks
in reply to punkibas • • •skisnow
in reply to punkibas • • •Someone needs to coin a word to describe this type of infuriating corporate statement. They make astonishingly piss-weak arguments in a patronising tone, as if to insist that reality must be whatever they say it is because they’re a successful company.
It’s the kind of statement that’s not technically a lie, but still seems dishonest for them to present as though it were a sane response, almost like an attempt at gaslighting.
I think the person who wrote that response should be forced to wear it around their neck so that everyone can see what sort of person they are.
spaghettiwestern
in reply to skisnow • • •It's not just companies. Amazon started pushing ads to subscribers who pay for ad-free Prime video content. Some idiot here on Lemmy actually insisted it wasn't an ad at all, but a "promotion."
Companies are getting their customers to make infuriating, ridiculous corporate statements for them.
blockheadjt
in reply to skisnow • • •Robaque
in reply to skisnow • • •skisnow
in reply to Robaque • • •I guess? Someone also said "rhetoric", and although it counts as both of these, I'm specifically thinking about these kinds of statements you get in press releases that obnoxiously try to paint the world the way that the company needs it to be in order to justify what they're doing.
Things like "Customers don't like regulations that stop us giving them the best service", "Our users are clear that they want the freedom to choose what subscription models work for them", you know? Those kind of weaselly shit on my pie and tell me it's a blueberry statements, where they dishonestly attempt to pose as the good guys wanting to do best for the world. They clearly must know that nobody actually falls for it, but they say it anyway because they need it to be out there in order for their paid-off politicians and useful idiots to have something to support deregulation.
ours
in reply to skisnow • • •dermanus
in reply to ours • • •That sounds right to me. Maybe "spin" if I want to be a bit more neutral, but it doesn't look like they deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Theyre putting a happy spin on some bullshit.
ours
in reply to dermanus • • •sturger
in reply to skisnow • • •Captain Aggravated
in reply to skisnow • • •There's a certain amount of advertising I'll accept. If I go to see an action movie, 1 to 3 previews of other action movies that are coming out in the next few months is okay.
Of course, because they tried to force a Mission: Impossible movie down my throat, I might never go see an action movie made after 2014 ever again.
PissingIntoTheWind
in reply to punkibas • • •percent
in reply to punkibas • • •FWIW, I have had some Google (now Nest) Home Hubs for years and I don't think I've ever seen or heard ads on them.
I'm gradually de-googling my life though, so maybe I'll just replace them with some DIY thing
Dr. Moose
in reply to punkibas • • •qaz
in reply to Dr. Moose • • •JackbyDev
in reply to punkibas • • •blady_blah
in reply to JackbyDev • • •I have an echo show in my kitchen. It displays ads, but they're super easy to ignore. They're just basically text pictures on the screen when it's not being used and on topics that I selected.
I'm pretty massively against ads, but the echo show's don't bother me in the least. If Alexa Plus starts giving me verbal ads or injecting them into things then it will quickly find its way into the trash can.
tiramichu
in reply to blady_blah • • •For me, there's no level of advertisement that is permissible, no matter how seemingly inoffensive the ad may be. It's still an ad.
In my own home on a device I paid for, it's simply not happening.
My tolerance is zero, because I am not willing to accept this ad-saturated society that we have somehow been generationally conditioned into thinking is acceptable.
mrmanager
in reply to tiramichu • • •I still dont understand how people think its fine seeing ads everywhere they look. What is in their minds....
It makes the world ugly. Real ugly.
sobchak
in reply to blady_blah • • •JackbyDev
in reply to blady_blah • • •Cryptagionismisogynist
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in reply to horn_e4_beaver • • •sturger
in reply to punkibas • • •EndlessNightmare
in reply to sturger • • •"That giant electronic advertising billboard really tied the room together."
"And he peed on it."
MintyFresh
in reply to punkibas • • •DarthAstrius
in reply to MintyFresh • • •Petter1
in reply to MintyFresh • • •B&O 😊 awesome Picture and awesome Sound.
Smartness is only achieved by placing an Apple TV into it.
And price is way too high.
My dad has one.
I have an old LG and have set on my router to keep it offline
I only use it with ISP TV box, Nintendo Switch and Apple TV
kamen
in reply to MintyFresh • • •rmuk
in reply to MintyFresh • • •EndlessNightmare
in reply to MintyFresh • • •For a TV, just don't connect it to a network.
This doesn't work for the Amazon Echo Show though, since internet connectivity is required for its core function.
MintyFresh
in reply to EndlessNightmare • • •NotMyOldRedditName
in reply to punkibas • • •JFC
No fucks given, we're gonna shove em down your throat.
kamen
in reply to NotMyOldRedditName • • •HubertManne
in reply to punkibas • • •ekZepp
in reply to punkibas • • •[ Picachu Face : o ]
(I'm too lazy to find the meme)
Etterra
in reply to punkibas • • •Octavio
in reply to punkibas • • •moopet
in reply to punkibas • • •kamen
in reply to punkibas • • •SirHery
in reply to kamen • • •kamen
in reply to SirHery • • •hansolo
in reply to kamen • • •Just a clock and a calendar? That's not the limit of what these things do, but that's easier to get that functionality without ads.
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More DIY
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TRMNL
usetrmnl.comkamen
in reply to hansolo • • •Almacca
in reply to punkibas • • •I don't think I'll ever buy any product that advertises itself as 'smart'. They seem to be anything but.
Edit: I do have a 14 year old 'smart' TV, but it's basically only a monitor for my PC.
Blackmist
in reply to punkibas • • •I turned off ads on mine.
By turning it face down.
balsoft
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