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in reply to sergeyfomkin

America is under attack and the news media is severely downplaying it. They should be reporting the way they would if America were under attack from any other nation. In fact they should have emphasized the threat long ago, in hopes of preventing it
in reply to sergeyfomkin

None of them are getting paid right now, right? I hope they take notice of how that are being treated by this "President".

in reply to Severus_Snape

Found guilty as sin, and set to be sentenced at a later date for the systematic starvation, rape and murder of civilians. Let's hope that he receives death, the thought that one man could be directly responsible for thousands of deaths is galling, especially in considering that fmr. President Al-Bashir is accused of the same but has only been held since his ouster a mere four years ago.


in reply to Severus_Snape

Apparently the fundamental problem, is that it isn't Boeing, except on paper, anymore:

It's McDonnell Douglas.

The engineering-culture of Boeing, was displaced when they merged,

& McDonnell Douglas's beancounter-culture did a "reverse takover"

( same as the confederates have now done a reverse-takeover of the US of A, & people are still pretending it's the US of A, instead of accepting that it's just the confederates ruling the "legal" US of A, but the "United States of America" is now functionally-gone, & that transformation's still accelerating, less-than 1/4 of the way through Trump's converting it into his possession. )

..so therefore "Boeing" is a dishonest/phony label on the company, now.

It's the McDonnell Douglas Dreamliner. The McDonnell Douglas 737-Max, etc.

Once the honest label gets put on it, then our unconscious-mind stops holding-onto contradicting-the-evidence assumptions/beliefs/habits!

Boeing didn't work the way McDonnell Douglas does.

& from what I've read, the "new CEO" is every bit as much anti-engineering-culture/pro-beancounter-culture as the guy he replaced, so therefore there is ZERO probability that anything fundamentally/really is going to change in that company.

Bottom-line-centrism ISN'T engineering-excellence-centrism!

They are different motivations.

They are different orientations.

They are different religions.

The longer people keep pretending that Boeing-culture's still existing in that company, the more people are going to die before we "wrap our heads around" the actual-facts.


sigh

This proves that companies can't be trusted to say what they are, but that regulators have to both periodically AND event-driven TEST what their culture is,

in order to discover when a company has kept the same name, but it isn't the same company .. and when that is discovered-to-be-the-case, then the regulators have to restart all certifications, because the "established relationship" was eliminated by the company which did a culture-change, while dishonestly keeping the old brand-name.

Why the hell does machiavellianism have to make EVERY-fscking-thing be too-damn-malevolent??

Humbug.

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in reply to Paragone

Just going to recommend the 2022 documentary Downfall: The Case Against Boeing for anyone who’s unfamiliar. It gives you all of this context, the Boeing before vs. after the 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas. Basically it’s no longer the same Boeing that put safety above all. They sold out.
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in reply to MelonYellow

Curious if this is the same book that John Oliver referenced in his respective episode? That was great.
in reply to Zerlyna

Ah this is only a documentary film. I didn’t watch the episode, but it looks like he was referencing the book Flying Blind: The 737 MAX Tragedy and the Fall of Boeing. Which looks like a great read on the topic actually!
in reply to MelonYellow

I’m 51 this week. My dream as a 8’ish year old (early 80’s) was to fly a 747 for Eastern Airlines. Of course Eastern was US only and didn’t fly internationally. But I became nearsighted and my parents told me I could never become a pilot. I believed them. 😭. I love commercial airplanes all my life… and it saddens me what has happened to Boeing through the years. I’m a poor plebe, but I do own a share… of Airbus. 🤨
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in reply to Paragone

I 100% agree with this. It was honestly horrible watching them go from “the people who make the best planes” to stock buyback-a-palooza
in reply to Paragone

For the record, pre-merger Boeing pulled the same crap with their rudder hardcover crashes in the early 90's. Everything from telling NTSB to blame the wrong piece of equipment to blaming the pilots, even to stealing evidence.

imgur.com/a/5wcFx8M

in reply to Paragone

Your comment is surprisingly spot on. One of my professors from community college that I remain in contact with is a retired AF pilot and long time Boeing manufacturing engineer from well before the M-D merger. He quit only a year or two after the merger because he saw the huge writing on the wall with how suddenly Boeing's corporate behavior changed. He had contacts at M-D who warned him too and he got out while the getting was good.
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in reply to Severus_Snape

I can hardly believe Ukraine has hit Russian refineries so fucking badly that Russia has stopped exporting refined go juice. That's the biggest news of this war for me. A petro state, their economy and no less their war machine, depends on oil, and they can no longer export refined fuel?!

Now if Europe would press the attack and finish this thing. America can no longer be counted upon and the enemy is at the fucking gates. Hammer Russia fucking flat while they're on their back foot. Fuck are they waiting for?!

in reply to shalafi

so the way i understand it, at first refinery strikes had little impact because other refineries still had slack capacity. but even before that slack capacity was gone, it had a further effect that now fuel was not prepared in places it used to be, so it had to be hauled longer distances. meaning logistics is strained and some fuel is used to haul it, and also now fuel production is more concentrated

at some point that slack capacity was gone and fuel went from not where you need it to not existing at all. there already were shortages in some regions. that and still large demand for fuel for farming caused decrease in exports. there was a refinery that only produces products for export, and its output wouldn't be directly usable as fuel (they only distilled crude into fractions, still high in sulfur etc) but it was also hit so exports from it don't matter because these are none

at any rate these developments are on borrowed time because it only takes maybe half year to repair more advanced parts of refinery, so under certain droning intensity they can just roll on. everyone involved knows that, and looks like situation will get worse for russians

in reply to fullsquare

Did not consider the logistics of using fuel to move fuel! Sounds even worse for the Russians than I had thought. And I'm fucking fine with that.
in reply to shalafi

Trains (electric) or pipelines generally won't, but pipelines aren't everywhere you need them and trains can't be used for anything else in this case. Effect is the same: local shortages
in reply to fullsquare

Also, train lines and pipelines too can be targetted by autonomous explosive delivery mechanisms, though they're probably a lot easier to repair than refineries.

in reply to Severus_Snape

I'm .
in reply to Severus_Snape

Marineland is still trying to continue existing?
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in reply to Severus_Snape

Oh, no, just because they've murdered tens of thousands of women and children doesn't mean they'd go so far as to beat up a few protestors too.


Who Benefits from Haiti’s Violence? - Haiti Liberte




'I was kidnapped by Russia at 16': Thousands of children in Ukraine have been abducted during the war and sent by Russia for ‘re-education’. A new documentary film reveals the horrors they face.


cross-posted from: scribe.disroot.org/post/493125…

Archived version

Here you can see a trailer (3 min, scroll to the bottom of the page)

More about the film and upcoming events to watch across the globe are on the documentary's website: childreninthefire.com/

...

Children in the Fire [is] a new documentary directed by Evgeny Afineevsky, a Russian-born, US-based film-maker whose previous works include Cries from Syria, about the Syrian civil war, and the Oscar-nominated Winter on Fire, which covered the 2013-14 Euromaidan protests in Ukraine. Along with horrifying stories of abduction and forced adoption, the new film also features children who have endured extensive burns, injuries and amputations since February 2022.

...

The film includes footage of Putin stating that, “Wars are not won by generals, but rather by schoolteachers and priests.”

“He is saying that re-education is the key element of winning the war. And it applies not only to Ukrainian kids; it applies to the entirety of Russia. He is trying to create a sort of Hitler Youth movement.”

...

[Edit typo.]

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in reply to FreeMindFreeAss

+1, I get it.

I don't know how to say this inoffensively, but I think China (speaking broadly) has a cultural victim complex, which is understandable given their history.

And I think China and Russia governments stoke this victimization for political benefit, kinda like the US convervative movement is doing now.

Anyway, I think that leads to reflexive denial of their own atrocities as if its an abuser blaming a more enlightened victim. And as for the tankies actually outside of those countries, well... I don't really know.

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in reply to brucethemoose

I think part of it is younger people waking up to how propagandized our government has made them, and then swinging to the opposite side. Like "All that stuff the soviets or ccp said must have been true if so much of what our government said was a lie". I did something like that after leaving the evangelical church when I was 18. Strong to atheism before adopting a more open-minded approach with room for the fact that I can be very mistaken.

I understand the cultural victimization thing, and it is completely understandable. China is a very unique case, we can learn a lot from them, I just hope that we can come to respect each-other enough to learn from our advantages instead of one-upping our destructive tendencies. Chinese people are awesome, Americans are cool too. And each nation has an equal amount of uncool people. Progress could be easier if we could all be nationalistically humble. Course it would help if we didn't have a millenia-long history of just killing and taking what we want, that is a big phase to get out of.



EFF and Five Human Rights Organizations Urge Action Around Microsoft’s Role in Israel’s War on Gaza


cross-posted from: lazysoci.al/post/35741152


EFF and Five Human Rights Organizations Urge Action Around Microsoft’s Role in Israel’s War on Gaza



in reply to DERRALEXANO

No that guy was "kidnapped from his tank" at a military base but they called him a soldier.

This guy was an elite IDF soldier all along, and Israel pretended he was a civilian. Western media spread the lie without checking, because fact-checking is only for Palestinian hospital directors..



EFF and Five Human Rights Organizations Urge Action Around Microsoft’s Role in Israel’s War on Gaza


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French government collapses in 14 hours, deepening political crisis


PARIS, Oct 6 (Reuters) - France's new Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu and his government resigned on Monday, hours after Lecornu announced his cabinet line-up, making it the shortest-lived administration in modern French history and deepening the country's political crisis.

The unexpected resignation came after allies and foes alike threatened to topple the new government, with Lecornu saying that meant he could not do his job. The announcement drove stocks and the euro sharply lower.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/french-socialist-leader-will-vote-against-pm-lecornu-things-stand-2025-10-06/

in reply to empireOfLove2

To give a bit of context :

  • the previous government (prime minister and the other ministers) drafted a budget proposal last summer that was widely unpopular among the population and most deputies in the national assembly.
  • the previous prime minister asked for a vote of confidence, lost the vote of confidence so the whole government resigned
  • Macron appoints a new prime minister, this new prime minister promises a new policy line that will break with the old government.
  • After 26 days, the new prime minister reveals the name of the new ministers that will form the new government. It's mostly the same names as before.
  • 15 hours later he resigned, so the new government is dissolved.


DIY YouTuber builds cheap VR headset and makes it open-source


in reply to Tony Bark

I wonder how this compares to Mañolo's HadesVR/PersephoneVR setup... I think they have 6DoF and use lights embedded in golf balls to act as PS Move sensors
in reply to Yttra

It's more or less two little screens behind fresnel lenses attached to an IMU. It's really cool, but no golf balls or anything like that. He seems to only use it for a racing rig.
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in reply to Tony Bark

While this is awesome and the tinkerer in me appreciates and respects the effort, a Quest Go/1/2/3 is significantly better than this with far more functionality and would be able to be purchased for the same price, or less, and with zero work or skill required to put together.
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in reply to FreedomAdvocate

Because you pay with data. Quest is the first device, where meta has full control over the Operation System, and even beyond.

You are forced to have a meta account to use it, IRCC

in reply to Petter1

You did but not anymore :

  • Go can be rooted officially
  • Quest 1/2/3/3s can be used without account thanks to PrivateQuest
  • Quest 3 v78 (not newer OS version) can be rooted via a hack

So yes, by default you are paying with data. In fact IMHO if possible one should not rely on Meta hardware. That being said if you get e.g. a 2nd hand Quest 2 or 3 and use it without an account then you might be providing little to no money to Meta and no data. It's not trivial but it's feasible. Arguably it's even easy for somebody who seriously consider such an endeavor of assembling their own HMD.

PS: Meta has access to the whole device but... they are not owning the OS itself, it's still an Android device. The OS is very much driven by Google. In fact it's quite interesting to consider that Meta failed to develop their own OS and that Google is shipping soon AndroidXR.

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in reply to Petter1

You know you can make throwaway meta accounts, don’t you? You don’t have to give it your real details and add all your friends.


in reply to mrdown

Considering how Israel, along with the rest of the Middle East, is set to get absolutely fucked by climate change, this is really self-defeating behavior.

in reply to Severus_Snape

There's more proof of what Elon can't do than what he can. He's an incompetent, disgusting, shitstain of a human being. The only thing he has going for him is his money, otherwise he just likes to pretend like he's the smartest in the room, like a stereotypical redditor.
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Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish?


Sick of scrolling through junk results, AI-generated ads and links to lookalike products? The author and activist behind the term ‘enshittification’ explains what’s gone wrong with the internet – and what we can do about it
in reply to LadyButterfly she/her

Agree with everything here.... but this isnt news

Half of the posts in this community are just opinion pieces...

We need to have some community standards.

in reply to LadyButterfly she/her

We only use Amazon when its the only fulfillment option available. What I've noticed about amazon over the last 5+ years is that it feels like cable/broadcast TV ads do now.

In the rare case I end up watching TV with ads I find them so obnoxious and/or off-putting that I can't believe they actually sell anything. If anything they put me off the product. And that's how Amazon feels too.



China is beating the US in battle for energy export dominance


This is a continuation of a trend. The US hit a record in oil exports in 2024, according to the Energy Information Administration. Yet, China’s clean technology exports were US$30 billion higher.

“Clean energy exports are hardware, which once a country has bought it, will generate electricity for a decade or two to come,” said Mr Greg Jackson, chief executive of Octopus Energy, the UK’s largest energy retailer. “Whereas with gas, the day you buy it, you use it, it’s gone forever.”

in reply to Diplomjodler

If you had told me 20 years ago that China would be closer to manifesting the Star Trek future I always wanted than the US, I would never have believed you. But here we are.
in reply to Diplomjodler

China deserves a lot of credit for intelligent investments and guiding their market. But let’s not forget the US deserves some credit for this as well: literally throwing out its advantages for the future, refusing to even try competing, and pushing the world to Chinese companies.
in reply to Diplomjodler

The U.S. was already behind China before Trump was in office, but then we just handed over what little run we did have with AI and clean energy with him in office. - We have far more work to to before we ever compete as a “world leader” again, if that even happens.
in reply to PeacefulForest

Yeah, your finished. Which is kinda sad as the ideals of China aren't great. Will Europe progressively form a spine... Probably not. What a shitshow of a timeline we live in
in reply to Frozentea725

China probably has no problem taking our money via trade so at least there's not much reason to expect war. Maybe economic subjugation though.

I do not expect us to go grow a spine though. Because capitalism. It's cheaper to get shit from China

in reply to schizoidman

Almost seems like China has a better "american dream" lately than americans do.
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France: Gisele Pelicot to face court again due to appeal


The rape trial that shocked the world will be discussed in a French court once again, after one of the men convicted of raping Gisele Pelicot appealed, insisting that he is "not a rapist."

One of the men found guilty of sexually abusing Gisele Pelicot is set to appear in court in the southern French city of Nimes.

Husamettin D. was sentenced to nine years in prison for rape. He claims that Pelicot's then-husband, Dominique, led him to believe that she had consented.

The 44-year-old argues he is innocent, with his legal team appealing both his conviction and the sentence. He visited the Pelicot home once in 2019.

He is one of 17 men who appealed their conviction and the last one still maintaining his innocence.

In total, 51 men were convicted in the trial that sent waves all around the world.

Dominique Pelicot was sentenced to 20 years in jail for drugging his wife and recruiting dozens of strangers to abuse her over almost a decade.

in reply to MicroWave

What a piece of shit. If you don't have enthusiastic consent you don't have sex. You don't just take somebody's word for it that their drugged and nonresponsive wife is cool with you fucking her. Jesus christ.
in reply to MicroWave

Whether one is "identifying" as a criminal, has ZERO bearing on whether one has committed criminal action!


Dear Gisele Pelicot, please hold your ground, for the sake of all the women who've been subjected to same-category violations.

For yourself AND others, together..

No matter what support you need to be able to withstand it, instead of just dropping it all

( I've survived enough in this world to KNOW that often it makes more emotional sense to drop everything & let evil win .. for one's self .. but then it grows more-powerful .. ),

PLEASE TELL THE GOOD-FOR-YOU PEOPLE WHAT SUPPORT YOU NEED: ASK THEM, .. TELL THEM, .. BEG THEM, .. MAKE THEM,

BUT GET THE SUPPORT YOU NEED, to be able to endure standing against evil's machiavellianism, please.

The more ground they gain, the more ground they can gain:

it's non-linear, & it is a feedback-loop ( same as ClimatePunctuation is, same as ideology-highjacking-a-country is ).

The less ground the machiavellians/gaslighters gain, the more ground that abused-women have.

Please keep holding-up, for the sake of many women in the world.

And anyone who honestly can support her, please please do-so.


It's the same at all scales:

the individual-scale, the whole-country scale ( like Palestine & Ukraine & Sudan & the Congo region ),

continental-scale ( as it will be shortly, in the Americas, & in Europe, & in Asia, & in the Middle-East+Africa, once the tipping-point is crossed, possibly in late 2025 ),

& global ( as it will be, once the "conquering" of regions is done, & the 4 remaining factions of the world have nowhere left to go, except through each-other, in the early 2030's ).

Keep unbreaking, keep getting-up again, keep keeping-going, keep warring for uprightness.


( I feel like shit telling you this, because while I've unbroken my life enough to no-longer be much-of-the-time-catatonic-with-brain-injury ( I spent years that way ), that the psychiatric-profession gaslit me to accept was somehow "incurable mental-illness" instead of literal-brain-decimation..

I've only been able to put me together-enough to offer perspective for help, .. but not been able to uncripple/unbreak my life, yet.

I can't even reliably coordinate physically, yet.

But there's no honest or strategic alternative:

IF I just smash/destroy my life, to escape the endless-abuse of existing-in-it,

THEN abuse won,

& my karma becomes hell-karma, because I let the enemy win, so therefore my continuum/soul gets caught-in lives rigged right from the beginning to that enemy-victory-leverage, to cause my continuum/soul to understand consequences-of-its-choices..

MY soul chose to indulge in being karma's punching-bag, because it didn't understand that consequences are real.

IT assumed that it could make-believe away everything, or ignore-away everything: inexperience/ignorance is terrible management substitute-for-competence, right?

& I've been paying the price for it, for more than 1/2 of a century ( including 7+y of outright homelessness ).

& .. looking around this world .. my experience isn't significantly better, or worse, than global-average, is it?

ALL these continuums/souls are getting themselves caught in incarnations, while making-believing that "consequences aren't real: they can't hurt me-the-soul" .. but the consequences crush/destroy the someones, the lives, that unconscious-souls get caught in..


It isn't the SurfaceMinds ( minds which dissipate every few hours ) which are the problem.

The 2 minds underlying SurfaceMind are the problem: unconscious-LifeMind ( begins forming in conception, & shatters in death ), & underlying-that is unconscious-Continuum/Soul.

Trying to make one's unconscious-LifeMind notice/learn anything .. is like being made of blown-dust & trying to MAKE bedrock understand something it WON'T know or understand..

Years/decades of persistence in right-direction can make some learning happen, in the more-fundamental-layer-of-mind.

But nothing less than that works.

Certainly not the making-believing or pretence pushed by our culture of "entertainment" brainwashing..


All this extra-context is simply to try to communicate that *the problem isn't you, or me, or any-particular-individual,

.. it is unconscious-LifeMind, and it is humankind's-collective-unconscious-LifeMind-ignorance, which is indellible-at-individual-human-scale* and digging-in against that is the REAL context, see?

And THAT is why I'm asking you to intentionally ask & get all the real support you need.

In my life nobody can provide the support that I need:

prejudices has annihilated those bridges: there's no human-closeness left, no such category of trust, of that kind: I do it alone or die having failed to do it.

I'm hoping that your-life is sooo utterly-different from mine, in nature, that it is possible for you to have close human friendship, honest-human-trust, & honest total support, & that you can have it, & can lean on it.

( IF I succeed in breaking-through, THEN it'll have been worth it, though "me"-personality will have been annihilated forever: the continuum/soul currently caught in "me" will have become incapable of ever making such a mistake, EVER again: the soul will have outgrown its retardedness. )

I'm hoping that you succeed, with whatever help you need, in breaking the evil trying to blot-out your truth..

Each their own path, their own way, but the fundamental-enemy's the same: evil's evil.

Narcissism / machiavellianism / sociopathy-psychopathy / nihilism / sadism / systemic-dishonesty / displacing-objectivity / displacing-considered-reasoning..

Each of those dimensions of human-evil has to be recognized on its own, & it has to be countered, outright, its most-effective-way.

Many times we are subjugated-by-evil because we fail to understand that we're caught in "The 2-Problem Problem":

.. that there are actually more than 1 dimensions of "problem" that we're caught-in, & we're trying to solve "the" problem, which is why we're failing again & again & again..

When something won't fix, then it's a good time to step back & see if one has been caught in The 2-Problem Problem..

If that set-of-dimensions-of-human-evil helps you clarify what each of the players concerting evil against your life is meaning, then you can clarify your fight's requirements, thereby stacking-odds for your validity's ( & meaning's ) survival.

That's leverage.

I hope it helps you enough.

I'm sorry I couldn't offer more than mere perspective: it's the only thing I've got. )


Salut, Namaste, Kaizen, & Gratitude for your holding-up as you already have,

_ /\ _



in reply to PalmTreeIsBestTree

Could have been worse, he's not outright fascist; the SPD (far-right) and STAČILO! (tankies) movements want to leave NATO and EU. Like last time, the tankies did not make it into Parliament but the far-right is sizeable (16). Still, it will not be enough for majority (101) with Babiš (80), they will also need to appease Motorists (13). So I guess we'll have lots of populism, corruption, continued coal mining and stalling public transit investments.

The previous cabinet (center-right SPOLU that's similar to US Democrats, plus Pirates and Mayors) only has 92 in total now because they inherited an economic crisis in 2021 after Babiš's irresponsible pandemic response (they handled it well but failed to connect with people, and they kept supporting Israel). Does this remind you of a certain American country? At least they managed to get some things done on issues I care about (no more forced castration for legal sex change, investment into 21ˢᵗ century rail infrastracture) and budgeted responsibly.

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How China waged an infowar against U.S. interests in the Philippines


  • China hired Philippine firm that ran fake social media accounts.
  • Accounts posted content aiming to disparage Western vaccines, Philippine maritime claims and its U.S. alliance
  • Chinese embassy gave out cash awards to prominent Filipino officials and media personalities
  • Beijing says it doesn't interfere in internal affairs of other countries

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/how-china-waged-an-infowar-against-us-interests-philippines-2025-10-06/


in reply to Interstellar_1

When my partner "came out" to me, they didn't really do much of anything to follow through and begin making changes. I think because there's so much to do and no guide to do it.

So one day we were at a loose end I said "let's just goto the hair dresser and you can ask them for an appropriate haircut"

And so our very lovely hairdresser became the 2nd person to learn their real name and did a fantastic job sorting out an appropriate hairstyle. Something that is still important to my partner now.

From being the first person they told about their transition IRL, to all the little times I've nudged and supported them taking the next step, it's been a joy and privilege to do that. I feel blessed by their trust and by being close to such beautiful change towards authenticity.



Populist party of billionaire Andrej Babiš wins big in Czech parliamentary election


Babiš's victory deprives Ukraine of a staunch supporter and steers Czechia toward the pro-Russian path taken by Hungary and Slovakia.

He is expected to join the ranks of Viktor Orbán of Hungary and Robert Fico of Slovakia, whose countries have refused to provide military aid to Ukraine, continue to import Russian oil and oppose sanctions on Russia.

in reply to jobbies

Honestly, no - not in a direct fight. The wolves will eat whole-hog anyone with actual concern for other people. The quickest & most effective way to win against them, IMHO, is to let them have the power they want over their own base, and let that base see for themselves how the right feasts upon others indiscriminately - including upon on its own. Get out of the way as much as you can, and watch them self-destruct.

Unfortunately,, there'll be a fuck-ton of damage left behind in their wake, but that's gonna happen anyway. The only way to minimize that is to take their bait, and flight what they're doing. That's going to drag things out much longer, and only has a moderate chance of avoiding the significant damage anyway.

Yeah, I'm cynical AF, but can you really blame me?



in reply to Severus_Snape

Wow, there are extreme conditions on Mount Everest? The place famously known for its extreme conditions?
in reply to Tar_Alcaran

Yup. And now rich assholes are trapped there, plus the exploited sherpas doing all the heavy work. My thoughts go out to the sherpas, I hope they will survive.
in reply to TigerAce

Apparently the people who live there are sick of it all and are starting to push back. Should be interesting to see if there are new laws or regulations.
in reply to stoly

Hopefully: "if you're a rich asshole climbing the mountain for an Instagram photo, carry your own damn shit"




Inside China’s gigantic iPhone factory: long hours, discrimination and pay delays


Cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/43530586

Archived

Chinese factory staff assembling Apple’s latest iPhone continue to face precarious conditions, working many hours of overtime, suffering wage delays and discrimination against ethnic minorities, according to a leading labour rights group.

China Labor Watch (CLW) found that more than half of the estimated 200,000 workers employed during peak season at the world’s largest iPhone factory run by Foxconn in Zhengzhou are seasonal staff known as “dispatch workers”. This is despite a Chinese law capping the use of such staff at 10 per cent of a company’s workforce.

US-based CLW, which specialises in undercover investigations of Chinese factories, also found that dispatch workers faced staggered payment schedules that withhold part of their wages to deter them from quitting during peak production.

These staff were not entitled to the same benefits as full-time employees, such as paid sick leave, paid holiday and social insurance that includes medical coverage and pension contributions. CLW also claimed that there is systematic discrimination in hiring certain ethnic minorities and pregnant women.

[...]

"Despite Apple’s repeated pledges to improve conditions over the past decade, our investigation finds that core labour issues remain,” said Li Qiang, founder of CLW and author of the report released on Thursday.

"Apple’s supply chain continues to depend on a vast, disposable workforce.”

[...]

Many of the workers interviewed added that conditions compared favourably with those of other local manufacturers, citing air conditioning, hot water, recreational facilities and canteen subsidies.

An economic downturn in China and rising youth unemployment have narrowed options for jobseekers. A 23-year-old who trained as a Chinese teacher said she had worked at Foxconn for two months: “If I can’t find another job, I might come back.”

But two of the people who spoke said Foxconn’s recruitment platform, which the agencies use to upload CVs, rejects applications from ethnic minorities, including Uyghurs, Tibetans, and Huis, who are not local to Henan.

[...]

One worker who had been at the plant for more than a month said that she typically worked two and a half hours of overtime each day, six or seven days a week. “Some managers have bad attitudes,” she said. “We work hard, but they keep pushing and squeezing us.”

in reply to Severus_Snape

This is a major reason why the company produces in China. There are practically no workers' rights.
in reply to Hotznplotzn

Maybe 20 years ago, but that hasn't been the case for awhile now. There's a reason textile manufacturing moved most of their operations to countries like Bangladesh where you can shove 1000 workers and 1000 sewing machines into an un-airconditioned building, and then skip town instead of paying your workers.

Manufacturing stays here because while unskilled labor is only very cheap instead of dirt cheap, China has cheaper inputs like electricity, materials, machinery, skilled labor, and access to the Chinese market.

Of course they still have a long way to go, but a median wage of 124K RMB (17K USD) isn't terrible when you can get a good meal for 10 RMB and rent a 2bd in most cities that aren't Beijing and Shanghai for 2000RMB/mo.

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in reply to Alcoholicorn

The report is about much more than 'only' the pay, but as you mention it: We must distinguish per capita disposable income from GDP per capita. GDP per capita calculates the total value of all goods and services produced in a country divided by the population, which doesn't reflect the income available to individual citizens and households.

For this reason we must look at the disposable income per capita, which measures the amount of money people can actually use, and we see a completely different picture.

In 2024, China’s national per capita disposable income reached RMB 41,314 (US$5,800 at the current rate), according to China's National Bureau of Statistics. Income disparities between urban and rural areas remain significant as already mentioned.

If it's true that you can "rent a 2bd in most cities that aren’t Beijing and Shanghai for 2000RMB/mo", you'd spend half of your disposable income on the rent (except in cities like Beijing and Shanghai, where you spend considerably more).

It is noteworthy that this data comes from official Chinese sources.

But again, the linked report clearly suggests that workers suffer wage delays, discrimination of minorities, are work overly long hours, and things like these. It's a devastating report on both Chinese working conditions and a U.S. company exploiting the local policy.

in reply to Hotznplotzn

Median disposable income in Canada is CAD $39K. Avg rent is $2.1K. That's 64% of disposable income. Disposable income is a nice metric but it requires price levels to be useful.
in reply to Avid Amoeba

Median and average is not the same, the comparison doesn't make sense as you say yourself.

And it has nothing to do with the linked report. This is not only about pay. It's is essentially about poor workers' rights in China.

in reply to Hotznplotzn

Of course I know they're differrent and I was wondering whether you'd go for that gotcha. I provided a very quick back-of-the-napkin context for how things look in Canada while taking a break from work. If I had more time I would have ideally found median for both. Do you honestly think median and average rent in this context are so wildly differrnt to make the conparison "not make sense?" Do you think the median rent would be so much lower (or higher) than 64% of disposable income as to make the picture invalid?
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in reply to Avid Amoeba

These are measures. What I 'think' they are is simply irrelevant.

But I think the linked report has nothing to do with this. It clearly suggests that Chinese workers suffer wage delays, discrimination of minorities, work overly long hours, and things like that. It’s a devastating report on both Chinese working conditions and a U.S. company exploiting the local policy.

in reply to Hotznplotzn

You clearly are providing your thoughts on these and the other measures you highlight. There's no point saying it's not relevant. If it wasn't, posting or commenting on the topic would be pointless.
in reply to Alcoholicorn

I get 404 not found at that link.

That would be a HUGE median income jump. Which is sure is true although I'm very skeptical that the CCP is actually giving the real number instead of an inflated number (granted, the #s 10 years ago were probably similarly inflated so the increase % is probably close)

in reply to ripcord

I think there's a good reason for them to present realistic numbers for wages, especially in manufacturing. It's because western companies need this data when they decide whether to move production to China. If the bean counters made projections based on a set of numbers, then in reality thigs were significantly different, that would be a problem. If PRC inflated say the wage numbers, it would have a negative effect on offshoring, fewer firms would decide to do the move or would move elsewhere. That's why I think these topline numbers are likely not far from reality.
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in reply to Avid Amoeba

I doubt they use this data to make that decision. It's more real world data from companies like FoxConn on how much it will cost to do X.

in reply to FerretyFever0

I dated a guy from Hungary that would go on and on about the "gypsies" and made racist jokes about them. It was quite uncomfortable.


French President Macron appoints new government, led by Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50363841
in reply to schizoidman

Lowkey hilarious that this government resigned so fast that when I came across this thread, I was unsure whether it was old news from yesterday or whether had already installed yet another government led by Lecornu, again.

in reply to Ice

Encouraging to see that the Palestinian people rejecting Hamas.

While certainly not the villain in this whole conflict, Hamas is definitely a villain.


in reply to schizoidman

Germany should be boycotted for guilting themselves over genocide into cooperating with another genocide.
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in reply to lmmarsano

This is what I can't understand about Germany's position. I know they spend a lot of time teaching their youth about the holocaust, yet they seem to have completely missed the the point.

The lesson wasn't "Always support the Jews". It was "Always stand in the way of genocide".



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