Calls for Grenadians to reject US request to set up radar station
As Grenada’s government considers the Trump administration’s request to set up a military radar base on the island to monitor nearby Venezuela, calls for authorities and islanders to reject the move and allow Grenada to avoid an impending war are beginning to emerge.
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Calls for Grenadians to reject US request to set up radar station
As Grenada's government considers the Trump administration's request to set up a military radar base on the island to monitor nearby Venezuela, calls forBert Wilkinson (Caribbean Life)
Global renewable energy generation surpasses coal for first time
Record solar expansion and steady wind growth driving world’s shift away from fossil fuels in 2025, report finds
The world’s wind and solar farms have generated more electricity than coal plants for the first time this year, marking a turning point for the global power system, according to research.
A report by the climate thinktank Ember found that in the first six months of 2025, renewable energy outpaced the world’s growing appetite for electricity, leading to a small decline in coal and gas use.
The world generated almost a third more solar power in the first half of the year compared with the same period in 2024, meeting 83% of the global increase in electricity demand. Wind power grew by just over 7%, allowing renewables to displace fossil fuels for the first time.
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EVA Air Under Scrutiny Following Flight Attendant Death
This incident has undoubtedly caused some concern.
Is the AI Conveyor Belt of Capital About to Stop?
Is the AI Conveyor Belt of Capital About to Stop?
Good thing it's only the entire economy propped up by this right now.AJ Dellinger (Gizmodo)
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Indonesian president asks Trump for meeting with son Eric in ‘hot mic’ moment
It was not clear whether the two were referencing the Trump Organisation or any business deals.
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Indonesian president asks Trump for meeting with son Eric in ‘hot mic’ moment
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Ceasefire Sparks Fresh Calls for Global Media Access to Gaza
With a fragile ceasefire in effect in the Gaza Strip, press freedom advocates and critics of Israel's genocidal assault are demanding international media access and justice for the Palestinian journalists killed by Israeli forces.
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Ceasefire Sparks Fresh Calls for Global Media Access to Gaza
Press groups are also demanding justice for the more than 200 journalists slaughtered in Palestinian territory over the past two years.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
US | Two killed as small plane crashes into parked trucks near Fort Worth
Two people were killed on Sunday after a Beechcraft C90 King Air with tail number N291CC crashed into several parked tractor-trailers near Hicks Airfield, sparking a massive fire north of Fort Worth.
Wafrn is for People Who Miss Tumblr’s Chaotic Energy
For those seeking out a federated and open alternative to Tumblr, Wafrn is looking extremely promising. It can speak both ActivityPub and AT Protocol, offers a ton of interesting features and customization, and focuses on making an incredibly fun experience.
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Looking for federated NodeBB instances
Re: Looking for federated NodeBB instances
There are comparatively few instances that federate, since we are new to the activitypub game.
I made the decision that if you upgrade to v4, AP is turned off. Install a new instance of NodeBB, and ActivityPub is enabled out of the box.
Side effect of that would be all instances running prior to v4 won't be federating, but at least there will be no surprises!
Here's a list, but it's not listed by topic or genre.
nodebb.fediverse.observer/list
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
Nodebb Sites Status. Find a Nodebb server to sign up for, find one close to you!nodebb.fediverse.observer
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Also, a couple years back I lost basically all of my gaming clients to Discord.
Travesty. Discord pales in comparison to what forums can do.
So NodeBB and forums in general used to be pretty big in games, but not so much now.
Last one I know of is Sea of Thieves, but they don't federate.
... yet? 😂
Sea of Thieves Game Discussion
The essential pirate experience from Rare, packed to the seams with sailing and exploring, fighting and plundering, riddle solving and treasure hunting!www.seaofthieves.com
I checked some of the forums in the link (nodebb.fediverse.observer/list) you posted, but it's hard to tell what most of those NodeBB instances are actually for: many lack descriptions and the forum names don't say much. I would have to read a few posts in each forum to figure out what each one is for. I found a literature forum but it only has three posts, I don't want to make an account just to shout into the void, so I'm trying to post to it from Lemmy.
I tried posting to the literature community I found via Lemmy but the post never showed up on the NodeBB instance. I used Lemmy's search with the target community URL (community.darkscribes.com/cate…), it found the community, and I created a post from Lemmy (lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/54997372). I can see the post on Lemmy but not on the target NodeBB instance. Any idea why that might be or how to get Lemmy posts to appear on federated NodeBB forums?
Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
Nodebb Sites Status. Find a Nodebb server to sign up for, find one close to you!nodebb.fediverse.observer
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Oh, I'm sorry to hear that... unfortunately debugging server-to-server interactions is kind of tough. It should work though, so I don't know why it didn't... yet. It could be their version of NodeBB isn't up to date enough.
cwsmith@community.darkscribes.com cwsmith@community.nodebb.org are you able to weigh in and let me know the NodeBB version? Could also be a privileges issue with the fediverse pseudo-user.
US | Husband and wife killed in fiery plane crash on Massachusetts highway
A husband and wife from Rhode Island were killed Monday morning when their single-engine plane crashed onto Route 195 in Dartmouth, igniting a fire that shut down both sides of the highway for hours.
US news outlets refuse to sign new Pentagon rules to report only official information
Defense department policy requires outlets to vow not to obtain unauthorized files and restricts access to some areas
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Hackers can steal 2FA codes and private messages from Android phones
Malicious app required to make “Pixnapping” attack work requires no permissions.
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California signs first US law regulating AI chatbots, defying White House stance
California Governor Gavin Newsom on Monday signed the nation’s first law regulating artificial intelligence chatbots, defying White House calls for a hands-off approach. The measure requires chatbot operators to implement safeguards for user interactions and allows lawsuits if failures cause harm, state senator Steve Padilla, the bill’s sponsor, said.
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Gaza Palestinian journalist Saleh al-Jafarawi killed by collaborators
cross-posted from: lemmygrad.ml/post/9434360
cross-posted from: lemmygrad.ml/post/9434359
Journalist Saleh al-Jafarawi was killed in southern Gaza while reporting, as media groups condemn ongoing Israeli attacks on Palestinian press workers.Renowned Palestinian journalist Saleh al-Jafarawi was martyred on Sunday after being killed by Israeli collaborators in Gaza while preparing a news report.
According to local sources, al-Jafarawi was shot while working on Street 8, south of Gaza City, as he documented the situation in the area following recent developments on the ground. Witnesses said he had been preparing a report when armed members of a clan collaborating with the Israeli occupation opened fire, killing him instantly.
For the past two years, al-Jafarawi has been a prominent voice in the coverage of the Israeli war on Gaza, documenting atrocities and exposing war crimes to international audiences. His reporting became widely recognized for highlighting the human suffering, destruction, and resilience of the Palestinian people.
Al-Jafarawi voices gratitude for solidarity
When the recent ceasefire in Gaza was confirmed, al-Jafarawi shared a heartfelt message from northern Gaza, expressing gratitude to all who stood by the Palestinian cause, from protesters and boycotters to artists, athletes, and activists who amplified Gaza’s voice around the world.
He also extended thanks to the activists behind the Gaza Sumud Flotilla and the Freedom Flotilla, both of which sought to break the siege and deliver aid to the Strip.
Yet his final words carried a powerful plea to the world: “Yes, the war has ended, but don’t turn your attention away from Gaza. Stay with Gaza always, because Gaza needs your voice, especially in the coming stage.”
He concluded his message by reaffirming the steadfastness of the Palestinian people: “We are the people of this land, and we have the right to live on it.”
Largest graveyard for journalists in modern history
Anthony Bellanger, a French-Belgian journalist, trade unionist, and historian, delivered a searing reflection in The Guardian, channeling the outrage of media workers worldwide as they watch colleagues in Gaza being killed with what he describes as Israeli impunity.
For Bellanger, history will remember the witnesses. In Gaza, that means remembering Anas al-Sharif, a young reporter killed on August 10, 2025, and the 222 other Palestinian journalists slain over the past two years, according to data from the International Federation of Journalists (IFJ). Those who sought to silence these voices, he writes, will carry condemnation forever.
For two years, Gaza has been the most dangerous place on earth to practice journalism. "Israel" has barred foreign reporters from entering, leaving Palestinian journalists, most of them members of the Palestinian Journalists’ Syndicate, affiliated with the IFJ, as the sole chroniclers of the war. They work without protection, often with their families equally exposed, and too often under direct Israeli fire.
The scale of the loss is unprecedented. Since its founding in 1926, the IFJ has not recorded such mass killings of journalists, not during World War II, nor in Vietnam, Korea, Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq. Gaza, Bellanger argues, is now the largest graveyard for journalists in modern history.
Intentional killings
He insists these killings are not random. They represent a deliberate strategy: eliminate the witnesses, seal Gaza off from international eyes, and control the narrative. With Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu openly vowing to “recolonize” Gaza, information warfare is seen as inseparable from military conquest. Colonization, Bellanger writes, also means erasing the ruins, the victims, and those who dare to tell their stories.
Displacement has only deepened the crisis. Hundreds of thousands have fled southward, but the south offers no sanctuary, only overcrowding, bombardment, and entrapment between the sea and the siege. Journalists share this suffocating reality, working inside an enclave where each day of survival is more uncertain than the last.
Meanwhile, the international community’s response has been little more than symbolic. Recognition of Palestinian statehood at the UN, while historically significant, comes too late to save the living or deliver justice to the killed. The UN remains paralyzed, major powers complicit through silence and arms sales, and Palestinian reporters continue their mission alone, often to the point of death.
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Russia | Kremlin issues veiled threats towards Moldova, cites Ukraine as warning
Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov issued a new round of veiled threats towards Moldova on Oct. 12, warning Chisinau not to suffer from the same fate as Ukraine just weeks after an election that saw Moldova’s pro-European Action and Solidarity Party (PAS) secure a parliamentary majority.
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Kremlin issues veiled threats towards Moldova, cites Ukraine as warning
Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov issued a new round of veiled threats towards Moldova on Oct. 12, warning Chisinau not to suffer from the same fate as Ukraine just weeks after an election that saw Moldova’s pro-European Action and Solidarity Party …Dmytro Basmat (The Kyiv Independent)
China achieves important breakthrough in creating 'shield' for fusion reactor
China achieves important breakthrough in creating 'shield' for fusion reactor
China has achieved an important breakthrough in the development of its next-generation “artificial sun” with the prototype component of the divertor of China’s Comprehensive Research Facility for Fusion Technology (CRAFT), passing expert evaluation a…www.globaltimes.cn
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Sending a message: Beijing issues documents without Word format amid US tensions
Sending a message: Beijing issues documents without Word format amid US tensions
For the first time, China’s Ministry of Commerce issued policy announcements in documents only accessible via domestic software last week.Alice Li (South China Morning Post)
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For the first time, China’s Ministry of Commerce issued policy announcements in documents only accessible via domestic software last week
There was a possibility to start sharing in a open format so everyone can read it. But they chose to use one even more closed then Microsofts format.
Charges For Workers’ Rights Violations Drop 90% In Ontario
Doug Ford’s government laid just 150 charges against employers for serious ESA violations from 2024-2025 compared to 1,500+ in 2015.
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SimonMed says 1.2 million patients impacted in January data breach
U.S. medical imaging provider SimonMed Imaging is notifying more than 1.2 million individuals of a data breach that exposed their sensitive information.
Russia and Ukraine are not black and white
Russia and Ukraine are not black and white
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Illinois and Chicago Filed a Lawsuit to Block Trump’s Deployment of Troops. The President Sent 400 Guardsmen From Texas to Several Cities, Vowing to “Restore Order”
Illinois and Chicago Filed a Lawsuit to Block Trump’s Deployment of Troops
The President Sent 400 Guardsmen From Texas to Several Cities, Vowing to “Restore Order”Stories Framing the Globe
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Sudan militia leader convicted of war crimes during Darfur war
Ali Kushayb: Sudan militia leader convicted of war crimes in Darfur
Ali Kushayb led the Janjaweed, a group whose campaign of terror led to hundreds of thousands of deaths.Anna Holligan (BBC News)
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Exiled leader to return to Bangladesh for historic vote after uprising
Bangladesh election: BNP's Tarique Rahman to return for historic vote
Tarique Rahman, tipped to be the next PM, tells BBC Bangla he is planning to return to fight landmark elections.Mir Sabbir (BBC News)
Apparently the fundamental problem, is that it isn't Boeing, except on paper, anymore:
It's McDonnell Douglas.
The engineering-culture of Boeing, was displaced when they merged,
& McDonnell Douglas's beancounter-culture did a "reverse takover"
( same as the confederates have now done a reverse-takeover of the US of A, & people are still pretending it's the US of A, instead of accepting that it's just the confederates ruling the "legal" US of A, but the "United States of America" is now functionally-gone, & that transformation's still accelerating, less-than 1/4 of the way through Trump's converting it into his possession. )
..so therefore "Boeing" is a dishonest/phony label on the company, now.
It's the McDonnell Douglas Dreamliner. The McDonnell Douglas 737-Max, etc.
Once the honest label gets put on it, then our unconscious-mind stops holding-onto contradicting-the-evidence assumptions/beliefs/habits!
Boeing didn't work the way McDonnell Douglas does.
& from what I've read, the "new CEO" is every bit as much anti-engineering-culture/pro-beancounter-culture as the guy he replaced, so therefore there is ZERO probability that anything fundamentally/really is going to change in that company.
Bottom-line-centrism ISN'T engineering-excellence-centrism!
They are different motivations.
They are different orientations.
They are different religions.
The longer people keep pretending that Boeing-culture's still existing in that company, the more people are going to die before we "wrap our heads around" the actual-facts.
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This proves that companies can't be trusted to say what they are, but that regulators have to both periodically AND event-driven TEST what their culture is,
in order to discover when a company has kept the same name, but it isn't the same company .. and when that is discovered-to-be-the-case, then the regulators have to restart all certifications, because the "established relationship" was eliminated by the company which did a culture-change, while dishonestly keeping the old brand-name.
Why the hell does machiavellianism have to make EVERY-fscking-thing be too-damn-malevolent??
Humbug.
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For the record, pre-merger Boeing pulled the same crap with their rudder hardcover crashes in the early 90's. Everything from telling NTSB to blame the wrong piece of equipment to blaming the pilots, even to stealing evidence.
I can hardly believe Ukraine has hit Russian refineries so fucking badly that Russia has stopped exporting refined go juice. That's the biggest news of this war for me. A petro state, their economy and no less their war machine, depends on oil, and they can no longer export refined fuel?!
Now if Europe would press the attack and finish this thing. America can no longer be counted upon and the enemy is at the fucking gates. Hammer Russia fucking flat while they're on their back foot. Fuck are they waiting for?!
so the way i understand it, at first refinery strikes had little impact because other refineries still had slack capacity. but even before that slack capacity was gone, it had a further effect that now fuel was not prepared in places it used to be, so it had to be hauled longer distances. meaning logistics is strained and some fuel is used to haul it, and also now fuel production is more concentrated
at some point that slack capacity was gone and fuel went from not where you need it to not existing at all. there already were shortages in some regions. that and still large demand for fuel for farming caused decrease in exports. there was a refinery that only produces products for export, and its output wouldn't be directly usable as fuel (they only distilled crude into fractions, still high in sulfur etc) but it was also hit so exports from it don't matter because these are none
at any rate these developments are on borrowed time because it only takes maybe half year to repair more advanced parts of refinery, so under certain droning intensity they can just roll on. everyone involved knows that, and looks like situation will get worse for russians
Marine park threatens to euthanize 30 whales if Canada does not provide funding
Marine park threatens to euthanize 30 whales if Canada does not provide funding
Marineland’s warning comes after Canadian official blocked the transfer of the beluga whales to a theme park in ChinaLeyland Cecco (The Guardian)
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Gaza flotilla members allege beatings and insults in Israeli detention
Gaza flotilla members allege beatings and insults in Israeli detention
Some of those held say guns were pointed at them, they were threatened with dogs and deprived of sleepLorenzo Tondo (The Guardian)
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Who Benefits from Haiti’s Violence? - Haiti Liberte
Who Benefits from Haiti’s Violence? - Haiti Liberte
For over a year, Viv Ansanm, an armed neighborhood coalition which has formed itself into a political party, has been calling for peace. A whole year of begging for an end to the killings, proposing various agreements, reaching out to communities.Kervens Louissaint (Haiti Liberte)
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'I was kidnapped by Russia at 16': Thousands of children in Ukraine have been abducted during the war and sent by Russia for ‘re-education’. A new documentary film reveals the horrors they face.
cross-posted from: scribe.disroot.org/post/493125…
Archived versionHere you can see a trailer (3 min, scroll to the bottom of the page)
More about the film and upcoming events to watch across the globe are on the documentary's website: childreninthefire.com/
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Children in the Fire [is] a new documentary directed by Evgeny Afineevsky, a Russian-born, US-based film-maker whose previous works include Cries from Syria, about the Syrian civil war, and the Oscar-nominated Winter on Fire, which covered the 2013-14 Euromaidan protests in Ukraine. Along with horrifying stories of abduction and forced adoption, the new film also features children who have endured extensive burns, injuries and amputations since February 2022.
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The film includes footage of Putin stating that, “Wars are not won by generals, but rather by schoolteachers and priests.”
“He is saying that re-education is the key element of winning the war. And it applies not only to Ukrainian kids; it applies to the entirety of Russia. He is trying to create a sort of Hitler Youth movement.”
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Діти у вогні: фільм, що нагадує, чому світ має прокинутись - Вільні Медіа - Українська громада в США
Коли у великому залі кінотеатру гасне, на екрані з’являється дівчинка, яка дивиться в небо. Ми не чуємо обстрілів, вибухів, але за її поглядом – вага втрат, зруйнований дім, обірвані мрії.lukianselskyi (Вільні Медіа - Українська громада в США)
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+1, I get it.
I don't know how to say this inoffensively, but I think China (speaking broadly) has a cultural victim complex, which is understandable given their history.
And I think China and Russia governments stoke this victimization for political benefit, kinda like the US convervative movement is doing now.
Anyway, I think that leads to reflexive denial of their own atrocities as if its an abuser blaming a more enlightened victim. And as for the tankies actually outside of those countries, well... I don't really know.
I think part of it is younger people waking up to how propagandized our government has made them, and then swinging to the opposite side. Like "All that stuff the soviets or ccp said must have been true if so much of what our government said was a lie". I did something like that after leaving the evangelical church when I was 18. Strong to atheism before adopting a more open-minded approach with room for the fact that I can be very mistaken.
I understand the cultural victimization thing, and it is completely understandable. China is a very unique case, we can learn a lot from them, I just hope that we can come to respect each-other enough to learn from our advantages instead of one-upping our destructive tendencies. Chinese people are awesome, Americans are cool too. And each nation has an equal amount of uncool people. Progress could be easier if we could all be nationalistically humble. Course it would help if we didn't have a millenia-long history of just killing and taking what we want, that is a big phase to get out of.
No that guy was "kidnapped from his tank" at a military base but they called him a soldier.
This guy was an elite IDF soldier all along, and Israel pretended he was a civilian. Western media spread the lie without checking, because fact-checking is only for Palestinian hospital directors..
EFF and Five Human Rights Organizations Urge Action Around Microsoft’s Role in Israel’s War on Gaza
EFF and Five Human Rights Organizations Urge Action Around Microsoft’s Role in Israel’s War on Gaza
EFF, Access Now, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, Fight for the Future, and 7amleh sent a letter to Microsoft last month calling on the company to cease any further involvement in providing AI and cloud computing technologies for use in Isr…Electronic Frontier Foundation
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French government collapses in 14 hours, deepening political crisis
PARIS, Oct 6 (Reuters) - France's new Prime Minister Sebastien Lecornu and his government resigned on Monday, hours after Lecornu announced his cabinet line-up, making it the shortest-lived administration in modern French history and deepening the country's political crisis.The unexpected resignation came after allies and foes alike threatened to topple the new government, with Lecornu saying that meant he could not do his job. The announcement drove stocks and the euro sharply lower.
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To give a bit of context :
- the previous government (prime minister and the other ministers) drafted a budget proposal last summer that was widely unpopular among the population and most deputies in the national assembly.
- the previous prime minister asked for a vote of confidence, lost the vote of confidence so the whole government resigned
- Macron appoints a new prime minister, this new prime minister promises a new policy line that will break with the old government.
- After 26 days, the new prime minister reveals the name of the new ministers that will form the new government. It's mostly the same names as before.
- 15 hours later he resigned, so the new government is dissolved.
DIY YouTuber builds cheap VR headset and makes it open-source
DIY YouTuber builds cheap VR headset and makes it open-source
DIY YouTuber CNCDan has uploaded a video of his latest project — a VR headset, which, besides the 3D-printed parts, cost him about $150. He also made all the resources needed for the project open source.Chibuike Okpara (Notebookcheck)
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Because you pay with data. Quest is the first device, where meta has full control over the Operation System, and even beyond.
You are forced to have a meta account to use it, IRCC
You did but not anymore :
- Go can be rooted officially
- Quest 1/2/3/3s can be used without account thanks to PrivateQuest
- Quest 3 v78 (not newer OS version) can be rooted via a hack
So yes, by default you are paying with data. In fact IMHO if possible one should not rely on Meta hardware. That being said if you get e.g. a 2nd hand Quest 2 or 3 and use it without an account then you might be providing little to no money to Meta and no data. It's not trivial but it's feasible. Arguably it's even easy for somebody who seriously consider such an endeavor of assembling their own HMD.
PS: Meta has access to the whole device but... they are not owning the OS itself, it's still an Android device. The OS is very much driven by Google. In fact it's quite interesting to consider that Meta failed to develop their own OS and that Google is shipping soon AndroidXR.
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in reply to NaibofTabr • • •First thing I thought of after reading it.
Is Betteridge's law ever wrong?
No.
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in reply to Inucune • • •ToastedRavioli
in reply to return2ozma • • •I could care less about the immediate “no” answer to the clickbait headline, but the real question posited by the article is “when is it going to stop, since it is clear that this is all hype and nothing more?”
How does one short this clearly impending financial disaster? Assuming that realistically it cannot go on forever, and that when it crashes it doesnt take the entire world economy with it. Although that is surely possible as well, in which case shorting anything would be a waste of time. But seriously, I dont see how more and more on wall street arent taking aim at the biggest hype bubble the world has ever seen
Also, secondly, why the fuck is Ted Cruz on stage in this photo?
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in reply to ToastedRavioli • • •melfie
in reply to return2ozma • • •Except the way it actually works is Larry, Jensen, and Sam keep the money while the rest of us eat shit.
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in reply to melfie • • •shalafi
in reply to return2ozma • • •For those of you cheering for the AI bubble to pop...
...are you not scared shitless?
This is not the dotcom bust, and it's far fucking worse than the 2008 housing crisis. And to think when I was young the Savings and Loan crisis was a big deal. We're on the edge of Great Depression 2.0.
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in reply to shalafi • • •the longer the bubble keeps going, the worse it will be... those of us convinced this is already a massive bubble believe the best time for it to pop was yesterday, the next best time is right now
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in reply to shalafi • • •Oh no, we won’t be able to afford houses or rent or save for retirement or- hang on just a second…
Wait, we already can’t do those things, and the last thing I want to do is, once again, validate the existence of people I would prefer to see in little pieces scattered all over the street for all the pain and suffering they’ve caused just to get a little more money on top of their billions.
shalafi
in reply to Soup • • •Guessing you have no idea what the Great Depression was like. My parents grew up in it.
Great Depression: 30% unemployment
2008 crisis: 4.2% economic contraction
If you think modern America is bad now, boy oh boy, you're about to get an education on how bad it can really get.
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in reply to gian • • •Unemployment around the 2008 crisis peaked around 10%.
You're delusional if you think the 2008 recession remotely compares to the impact of the great depression. You just have 0 frame of reference to compare. I say that as part of the most impacted group: I was just getting out of college when that crashed and it killed my job opportunities.
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in reply to druidjaidan • • •I don't think it, I was only pointing out that he was comparing two different things.
I know that there is no way the two events have a compatible frame of reference but that does not means that you can compare the two values.
Soup
in reply to shalafi • • •Ok? And this is relevant how? I’m Canadian, so pretty tied to the US’s bullshit at the moment, but damn where’s this US bravery I keep hearing so much about?
Deflection isn’t going to solve your problems.
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in reply to shalafi • • •Serious question: what if I am, and have no idea how to prep for it?
My pension and other things are tied up in stocks and such, if there's a crash coming I'd think cash under the pillow would be better than stocks. But how do you do that, with your pension?
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in reply to noughtnaut • • •gian
in reply to shalafi • • •It would be interesting to know how many resources this growth has taken from others places...
As for now it don't seems that AI has generated a profit for the companies that bring it to the market and it seems it will not do it even in the near future, so I assume the question is: how many years can your economy be sustained by a sector that is not generating any revenue and is absorbing a monstrous amount of resources ?
We are not talking about a single company (like Amazon back at the time), do you really think that even when Ai will start (if ever) to generate profits these will be able to repay all the investements done today ?
SaraTonin
in reply to gian • • •gian
in reply to SaraTonin • • •SaraTonin
in reply to gian • • •gian
in reply to SaraTonin • • •A personal bank's investement is a different thing than a investement in a startup, with different level of risks and revenue.
SaraTonin
in reply to gian • • •gian
in reply to SaraTonin • • •With a bank investement I get something back, even if less than what I invested. Could OpenAI pay back even half of what received ?
Which send us back to the starting point: what will happen when the VCs will start to ask for their money back or for their share of the revenue ? Inevitably the bubble will pop.
SaraTonin
in reply to gian • • •At the moment OpenAI can’t pay back anything, becuase they’re hemmorhaging money. Losing billions a year. And there’s no path to profitability.
That’s why they make investors confirm that they’re considering their investments a donation. That’s also why it’s unusual.
It’s not unusual for the opening phases of big tech companies to be “operate at a massive loss until the competition has gone out of business”, as companies like Netflix and Uber can attest, but it is unusual for that to be done where the investors aren’t expecting to make a profit.
humanspiral
in reply to gian • • •First, actual investments that have been done are relatively modest. It's still a substantial portion of TSMC fab capacity. All of the deal announcements for datacenters are 50x-100x growth. I doubt all of this capacity will be built for a long time. Coding/reasoning models can have more demand, but openAI (most of the deal announcements) is not that good at those. 100x power growth is also 200x every 2 years token output growth, and if models get better, users need less tokens by getting it right on fewer tries.
Second, they are losing money at current levels. Oracle leaked it lost $100m on existing AI datacenter operating losses. Coreweave is fully levered at 10% interest rates. Everyone is operating like social media startups from 10-20 years ago. Only revenue growth and market share, and being cool, matters. Enshittification will come much later.
Third, datacenters are fundamentally flawed, and local AI has competitive advantage to them. AI is good at datamining the datacenter traffic for output that could be profitable to steal.
Fourth, the only business model is US military and disinformation control. They will pay infinitity, and support infinity investment. Giant datacenters are about Skynet. Not market profits. That US government would protect their oligarch partners in stealing your ideas/llm outputs, and amplify current media's messaging that anti-genocide views are treasonous anti-American sentiment.
If all the money goes towards skynet, energy bills for everyone else will go up, including what little manufacturers there are in US. Insisting on war on China and Russia is helped by forced unemployment, and fascist response to the unemployed's uppityness. Datacenter AI's primary certain value is as a new cold war Arms and disinformation race.
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in reply to shalafi • • •No.
I'm too fucking stupid.
Squizzy
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in reply to shalafi • • •Brave Little Hitachi Wand
in reply to RagingRobot • • •Zink
in reply to Brave Little Hitachi Wand • • •Absolutely, plus since index funds are cap weighted, ordinary retirement fund investing folks are very much vulnerable to it.
If I pull up VTSAX (vanguard total stock market index fund) what I find is...
Sectors: Technology is 38% of the fund and I see 11 sectors listed.
Top 10equity holdings, in order from the top:
NVDA
MSFT
AAPL
AMZN
META
AVGO (Broadcom)
GOOGL
TSLA
GOOG
BRK.B (Almost like its own index fund)
This is fine!!
Reygle
in reply to return2ozma • • •reads title of article
Verbally said "god I hope so."
Then I read the article, and now I'm just thinking I hope it all burns immediately. I want to see the data center fires from my house.
return2ozma
in reply to Reygle • • •Have you seen this?
youtu.be/zkGk_A4noxI
- YouTube
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in reply to return2ozma • • •HaraldvonBlauzahn
in reply to return2ozma • • •ok.
BackgrndNoize
in reply to return2ozma • • •BanMe
in reply to BackgrndNoize • • •HaraldvonBlauzahn
in reply to return2ozma • • •In that case, there is a little but fundamental problem. It is based on basic physics: You can fake securities or earnings, or you can print money. But you can't fake energy because that violates the laws of physics.
BanMe
in reply to HaraldvonBlauzahn • • •altphoto
in reply to return2ozma • • •Why are politicians fat? Nobody respects fat politicians do they? Outside people respect sexy toned politicians.
I don't know, should we vote the fat ones out just to try it? Wait, would that make us all fatzists? Or weightzists? I'm at the restroom and felt that I had to bring it up since we're thinning down our country's defences. Relevant.
sarcasm I'm fat too.
scarabic
in reply to return2ozma • • •I’ll just offer some facts as a counterpoint to the prevailing narrative here.
My employer, a major multinational tech company, is pushing AI use internally so hard it hurts. After studying it they announced it was saving our software engineers about 4 hours a week net, or half a day. Thats as of now with adoption still growing and new tools being explored constantly. Half a day weekly is 10% of our software engineering budget which is a large number, and the company will without a doubt pay a significant sum to continue getting that benefit to get more out of their staff, who are their biggest cost of doing business.
I live in the dissonance between, on the one hand, the narrative in places like Lemmy that AI is shit and doesn’t do anything right and these companies have no monetization plan, and on the other hand, seeing it dramatically change my enterprise workplace and provide real value.
Yes engineers are confirming to my very own ears that they are using AI tools and they have their uses and save them time and toil. For example, we had one version update to push through hundreds of teams all with disparate front end code, and it was not possible to just script the update for them all because custom integration work would always be needed, but we did come up with a prompt that could use a set of documentation and entity mappings to accomplish the update in under a minute with a high rate of success. This is just how things are staring to get done. It hasn’t replaced engineers, but it is fast becoming one of their most powerful tools.
1984
in reply to scarabic • • •Lemmy users dont know shit about how Ai is used. Most are probably still in school. 😀 My experience is the same as yours - companies are pushing for Ai because it allows employees to work faster and get more done. Significantly so.
I can ask it to create a script to do a task that would have taken hours or days to put together. Things like that are major wins and very, very easy to do.
I frequently ask it to compare tools as well, saving days or weeks of work. Whoever says this technology is not useful is just not using it right.
That being said, making money from this is the question. Companies are subscribing their employees to this stuff, so I think revenue is going to go way up in the coming years, not just from buying chips, but from companies paying for Ai models for their employees.
Any company still doing manual work is gonna be much much slower than the others.
scarabic
in reply to 1984 • • •I think the Lemmy perception of AI boils down to just a few things:
1) but it hallucinates!
2) I hate tech bros
3) but the MIT report!
Of course there’s more, like underlying fear of losing jobs, stealing from artists, and being dehumanized in general.
I happen to care a lot about those things too, but ranting on about 1-3 doesn’t actually help and is just people repeating each others points in a circle jerk. Meanwhile AI is on the move.
Phoenixz
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