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Windows 10 End Of Life - Your Story


As the Windows 10 EOL date is close I was wondering what fellow Linux users thoughts about it are.

Are you helping open minded people making the switch to Linux? If yes, which distro are you using? Are you using resources like endof10.org?

Or are you using the the opportunity to get your hands on some cheap hardware for your homelab? Are you keeping an eye on special websites or just ebay (or your local equivalent)? Are you talking with local companies to get the hardware directly from them?

Or are you just observing and enjoy your peace of mind because you switched already to Linux before?

Whatever it is, we are very interested to hear your stories concering this interesting time.

in reply to theorangeninja

I have used Linux for a good while around the early 2000’s. Good memories.

Fast forward to now. Bought a new laptop with W11. hated it.

(Just imagine a long list of frustrations about W11, because I’m not going to contribute anything new by saying it)
-and finally, I want my data to be mine!

And so now I get to annoy my wife about how awesome Linux is. My dad is on the train as well. We both annoy our wives with Linux.

in reply to FreddiesLantern

Man I use Windows 11 daily for work and I can't stand how fucking buggy and clunky everything is. It's so bad.

Once in a while I'll boot my Linux desktop and it's just.... Bliss. Other than that I spend a lot of time on my steam deck, love that too.

in reply to theorangeninja

Most folks I know don’t know the existence of security updates or Windows 10’s EOL so they just keep using it. Even if I told them about the EOL their pcs wouldn’t run Windows 11 nor they’re interested in Linux


Loops Joins the Fediverse


in reply to ByteMe

did they fix the feed and algorithm issues yet? or is it still doing the thing where it shows you the same feed every time you open the app.

edit: just reinstalled to check. it doesn't seem to have been updated since February and the feed issue still persists. that is a shame. I hope they can fix it.

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in reply to Nima

Android app update is the next thing. They are active on Discord.
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in reply to Nima

Loops doesn't have an algorithm, it just shows you the most recent videos uploaded to Loops. At least, in the For You tab anyways.
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in reply to Tune

ahhh well. hopefully that changes to give a bit more usability. but thank you. good to know.
in reply to ByteMe

Bröther may I have some lööps?


in reply to middlemanSI

Never of course, they (Israel and Palestine) will continue in 5... 4... 3...
in reply to macniel

What exactly are Palestinians going to "continue" to do? Be slaughtered, starved, and otherwise eradicated by the colonialists?

Whether you intended it or not, saying "Israel and Palestine will continue" implies that there's anything resembling an equivalence between the actions of the genocidal apartheid regime and those of Palestinians.

in reply to middlemanSI

Not before the West Bank and the rest of Gaza are destroyed after some false flag attacks by "Hamas".
in reply to middlemanSI

Never

Point 9 of the peace deal. means that Gaza will be controlled by Trump and Tony Blair, and will follow the guidelines of "Trump's 2020 peace plan"

amd Article 4 and 5 of the Palestinian statehood guidelines:

4 Take no action, and shall dismiss all pending actions, against the State of Israel, the United States and any of their citizens before the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice, and all other tribunals;

5 Take no action against any Israeli or United States citizen before Interpol or any non-Israeli or United States (as applicable) legal system;


The only way to stop the genocide was by forcing them on pain of starvation (Article 7&8) to become a colony and are barred from seeking any legal justice.

in reply to 🍉 Albert 🍉

They can stick their "peace plan" and absurd articles deep inside. Afaik (not much), the ICC and the rest of us are not parties to this document.
in reply to middlemanSI

it's not a peace plan, it's a surrender just in hope to end the genocide. not gaza is now a puppet state, and will not be free

in reply to IndustryStandard

When I read "hostage", my mind raced to still black and white photos from WWII. Not full HD colour video footage.

What happened to the world, where its 2025, and there are STILL wars and hostages happening...

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in reply to MidsizedSedan

I think about this every day. It doesn't have to be like this anymore. It shouldn't be like this anymore.
in reply to goodnighttothe_spoon

It didn’t have to be like this back then either 😢
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in reply to LiamBox

Here is a reupload on Catbox files.catbox.moe/9mymc6.mp4

Other people tell me that Catbox does not work for them so this makes it all very difficult. I usually try to upload sub1min stuff to Imgur. But I will try to include a catbox mirror in future posts

in reply to LiamBox

Imgur also blocks most major VPN datacenters. Site needs to die.


Indian textile exporters turn to Europe, offer discounts to offset US tariffs


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50939117

Indian textile exporters are seeking new buyers in Europe and offering discounts to existing U.S. customers to cushion the blow from steep U.S. tariffs of as much as 50%, industry executives said.


https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indian-textile-exporters-turn-europe-offer-discounts-offset-us-tariffs-2025-10-14/

in reply to SnokenKeekaGuard

They don't necessarily need to own and operate their own factories imho, but we need transparent supply chains and laws to hold the brands accountable what happens in these supply chains. China is likely the country most opposing to such transparent supply chains, India is another one.
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in reply to

It is impossible to do so I tell you. They threaten to pack bags and leave if you dare take any action against them.

No government can control corpos. Hell they were using 'tax saving methods' that hurt the US, were in the panama papers. Also part of a dodgy scheme in the Netherlands.

I could go in detail but i can assure you that it is impossible to do so your way.


in reply to Agent641

Why do we still still use phone numbers for communication? It’s a terrible idea. One unifying piece of information that if anyone gets they can use. Bah.

We should have a communication method that both sides consent to before allowing the connection. Either side can kill that connection at any time by revoking permission on either side. The contact info shouldn’t be the same for everyone either, but something ephemeral instead. Unique. A burner phone number that’s different to each person and only useful if the connection originates from the one meant to have that number.

It’s 2025. We still have “you have been hacked, give me gift cards to save your Google Chrome” style shit going on.

in reply to muusemuuse

This sounds cool!
Reminds me of SSH keys a bit!
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The Final Test Starts Now! | Duolingo Anime - Episode 1




Korea's military faces officer shortage amid record exodus - The Korea Times


According to data obtained from the Ministry of the National Defense by Rep. Yu Yong-weon of the main opposition People Power Party (PPP), the number of voluntary resignations among officers and noncommissioned officers with 10 to 20 years of service reached an all-time high last year.

A total of 1,821 personnel in that category left the military in 2024, up from 960 in 2021. As of the end of September this year, 1,327 had already filed for voluntary discharge.

The number of officers taking leave has also increased sharply, from 2,252 in 2021 to 3,412 last year, with this year’s figure already at 3,401.



Antibiotic resistance surges globally, UN health agency warns


new data show that one in six bacterial infections globally are resistant to standard antibiotics

“Antimicrobial resistance is outpacing advances in modern medicine, threatening the health of families worldwide,” said WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.

in reply to schizoidman

The US downgraded themselves to third world disease prevention capabilities recently, right?
So super ebola is gonna come from the US.


American Journalist Says She Experienced ‘Extreme Brutality’ at Hands of Israeli Guards, Including Beatings and ‘Threats of Rape’


Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with “extreme brutality” on Monday, including beatings and “threats of rape,” after being taken by Israeli forces from international waters while aboard the Conscience Freedom Flotilla.

In a video statement published to social media, Schnall – a Los Angeles-born photojournalist who had been reporting from the flotilla for Drop Site News – recalled the “extreme brutality” she allegedly experienced during her captivity.

“Any flotilla member who upset the Israeli guards was subjected to twisted and tightened handcuffs and some received beatings,” she said. “I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull by a group of men and women guards, one of whom sat on my neck and face, blocking my airways.”

The journalist continued, “Many comrades, understandably, do not want their identity made public when recounting this treatment. During the evening, the men were tormented by guards with attack dogs and guns. The women were threatened with pepper spray. Our cell was awoken with threats of rape.”

in reply to geneva_convenience

Something tells me this won't be reported on by the NY Times. They are only interested in fictional rapes of non-existent Israeli women.
in reply to Mrkawfee

Israeli captives felt like they were going to get raped because their guard stared at them for a few seconds.

Palestinian captives should not feel like they were going to get raped because their guards yell at them that they are going to rape them.

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American Journalist Says She Experienced ‘Extreme Brutality’ at Hands of Israeli Guards, Including Beatings and ‘Threats of Rape’


Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with “extreme brutality” on Monday, including beatings and “threats of rape,” after being taken by Israeli forces from international waters while aboard the Conscience Freedom Flotilla.

In a video statement published to social media, Schnall – a Los Angeles-born photojournalist who had been reporting from the flotilla for Drop Site News – recalled the “extreme brutality” she allegedly experienced during her captivity.

“Any flotilla member who upset the Israeli guards was subjected to twisted and tightened handcuffs and some received beatings,” she said. “I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull by a group of men and women guards, one of whom sat on my neck and face, blocking my airways.”

The journalist continued, “Many comrades, understandably, do not want their identity made public when recounting this treatment. During the evening, the men were tormented by guards with attack dogs and guns. The women were threatened with pepper spray. Our cell was awoken with threats of rape.”



Venezuela's Maduro calls Nobel Peace laureate Machado a 'demonic witch'


Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro on Sunday called opposition leader Maria Corina Machado a “demonic witch", two days after she won the Nobel Peace Prize for promoting democracy. The Nobel Committee praised Machado’s “tireless work” for human rights in Venezuela, long at odds with Washington since the Trump administration deployed warships nearby.
in reply to gedaliyah

Venezuela has been at odds with the US since long before Trump deployed those warships.


Secret Israeli military bunker located under Tel Aviv tower struck by Iran, analysis shows [Jack Poulson and Wyatt Reed | October 13, 2025]


cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/37318212

The Grayzone has geolocated the underground bunker of an important military command and control center nestled within a densely populated Tel Aviv neighborhood. Known as ‘Site 81,’ the U.S.-built facility houses a hyper-secretive intelligence base.

When Iran struck a series of targets in the heart of north Tel Aviv with ballistic missiles on June 13, Israeli authorities immediately cordoned off the area to prevent journalists from filming the damage. “The building on this compound was just hit,” Trey Yingst of Fox News reported as he arrived that evening at the site of HaKirya, Israel’s Defense Ministry headquarters, and the nearby Azrieli Center. But within seconds, Israeli police officers arrived to aggressively shunt Yingst away from where he was standing, just north of the HaKirya Bridge on the west side of Menachem Begin Road.

That day, Iranian missiles struck the north tower of the Da Vinci apartment complex roughly 550 meters southwest of Yingst’s location. The Grayzone has determined that the building sits immediately south of the “Canarit” / “Kannarit” Israeli Air Force towers and above an underground military intelligence bunker jointly administered by the US and Israeli militaries. According to an analysis of leaked emails, public documents, and Israeli news reports, the location is host to a highly secretive, electromagnetically shielded intelligence facility known as “Site 81.”

Israel aggressively censors information relating to its urban military and intelligence facilities while simultaneously accusing its adversaries of engaging in ‘human shielding’ – a practice of protecting military targets with civilian populations that is prohibited by international humanitarian law. While the existence of a U.S. Army project to expand Site 81 to a 6,000 square-meter facility was widely reported from government records circa 2013, the specific location remained unknown...



How Israel is laying the groundwork for ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon


For the early Zionists, settling Palestine meant settling the largest possible territory that vaguely overlapped with their biblical vision of the holy land.

Maps presented by the World Zionist Organization to the Paris Conference clearly show that Zionists sought to include in their territory southern Lebanon, including the Litani River and up to the coastal city of Saida - an estimated 60km from the current border.

Zionists, like all European settlers, were also keen to secure the most fertile land and fresh water sources. Eastern boundaries of the proposed map included large swathes of Syrian and Jordanian territory that fully engulfed Lake Tiberias and the Jordan River. French counter-proposals forced the Zionists to confine their activities after WWI to what is now referred to as historic Palestine.

Initial ambitions to colonise southern Lebanon were shelved but never extinguished. During this latest war, Michael Freund, who previously served as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s deputy communications director, claimed that “historically speaking, southern Lebanon is in fact northern Israel”. He cited the Book of Joshua as mentioning “Sidon explicitly as being promised to the Jewish people”. Freund also listed several shrines in the south as Jewish and evidence of the right to the land.

The invocation of religious sites as justification for colonial conquest is an old and debunked Zionist trope. Freund was not alone in reviving it. One of Israel’s pseudo-archaeologists, Zeev Erlich, was embedded in the Israeli army during the recent invasion of Lebanon. Israeli troops burned and destroyed parts of the shrine. Before withdrawing, they demolished the surrounding historic buildings of the village’s old quarter, the very place they claimed as theirs.



Venezuela’s Opposition Used UN Meeting to Lobby for US Coup


Meanwhile, the Venezuelan opposition, led by former presidential candidate María Corina Machado, the far-right extremist who just won the Nobel Peace Prize, used the UN General Assembly (UNGA) as a lobbying platform, courting the Trump administration and sympathetic foreign governments to support a coup to depose President Nicolás Maduro. She has been part of multiple calls for US interventions in Venezuela, including to, in her words, secure the “total asphyxiation of the Venezuelan economy.”

The opposition organized demonstrations in front of the Secretariat Building to denounce Maduro and call for the world to intervene. Pedro de Mendonça, Press Director for Machado’s campaign, hosted a protest saying, “Maduro is not the legitimate president of Venezuela, but the head of the Cartel of the Suns and the Tren de Aragua.” Mendonça called for “a free Venezuela and a secure West” through an “international coalition.” This is as direct a call for intervention as you could get. Machado retweeted it.



in reply to Tony Bark

Not gonna happen until the bodies are swept under the rug.
in reply to Tony Bark

Yes peace is here! But not for palestinians, oopsy. Now they will order Hamas to give up their weapons and when they don't. Genocide continues.



What ever happened to Nicole the fediverse chick?


I haven't gotten her spam, nor heard her talked about in a while. Did she finally get banned?
in reply to Lost_My_Mind

She and I started dating, and she's had a lot less time for making Fediverse friends since starting her new job.
in reply to AmidFuror

Damn, homie really putting her to work, huh? Sheeeeeeesh
in reply to Lost_My_Mind

Perhaps the spammer got tired and many admins stepped up their game. As an instance admin I remember having to remove helluva many posts featuring Nicole. Hopefully anything like that will not happen again for a long time.


UK arms received by Israel reach record high value in 2025


Last week, FactCheck revealed that Israel imported over £400,000 worth of arms from UK companies in June 2025 – the highest monthly amount since these records began in January 2022.

The exact nature of the items wasn’t specified in the data, but they were listed under a category that includes bombs, grenades, torpedoes, missiles, and ammunition.

And we can now exclusively reveal that September was the second highest value month on record, with over £310,000 worth of UK munitions under this same category arriving in Israel.

...

Israel dismissed the Commission’s report as “distorted and false” and said the expert panel were acting as “Hamas proxies”.

The UK government told us it does not “export bombs or ammunition for IDF use in military operations in Gaza or the West Bank”.

https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-uk-arms-received-by-israel-reach-record-high-value-in-2025

in reply to UnderpantsWeevil

Aaand this is why UK has been so adamant to quell protests against Israel’s genocidal actions: money

Enjoy the MMOG of capitalism, where only a few griefers using exploits get to win.

in reply to TeamAssimilation

While it's definitely not helping, the volume of money moving around (less than four million pounds year) is too small to be the only factor at play. (Neo)colonial ambitions, deference to daddy USA and plain inertia probably have at least as much to do with it.
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil

He all knew Uk and other countried like Canada and Germany lied about the arms ambargo

in reply to flango

I think we're going to have to genetically engineer some corals.
in reply to flango

Here in South Australia we are starting to see the effects and it's pretty chilling.

The algae bloom affecting many of our suburban beaches (which is most of Adelaide) and a lot of country ones are seeing huge numbers of dead marine life being washed up.

Anything from leafy sea dragons to fish, stingrays, and sharks. The foam created on some days covers whole sections of beach.

While apparently it's safe, there are warnings that you may experience breathing issues and rashes so your supposed to bring your inhaler and rinse off after you have been in. On windy days it can affect you even if your walking close to the beach.

As we head into summer the damage to local seaford providers (the seafood is fine to consume but people are wary) and cafe owners will be huge and is already starting to take effect.

Because our beaches are so close, people would go down after work for a dip or have a drink at the suburban pubs and cafes.

abc.net.au/news/2025-07-23/sa-…

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in reply to FriendlyMaple221

From the Abstract:

"Our analysis reveals three critical success factors: (1) higher carbon prices per capita are essential for carbon reduction, (2) the necessity of penalties on carbon price per capita from EUR 20–EUR 100, and (3) expanded market coverage maximizes impact. To address global disparities, we propose a Uniform Carbon Pricing Mechanism under the Global Carbon Resilience Framework (GCRF), based on carbon price per capita tiered pricing: EUR 100/t (developed), EUR 30–50 (developing), and EUR 5–15 (least-developed countries). This balanced system supports vulnerable regions while cutting emissions, proving that fair carbon pricing is crucial for climate goals and economic stability."

Those points look sane, to me.

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in reply to Severus_Snape

Wait wasn’t Jordan one of the biggest genocide facilitators (outside of the west)?
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in reply to ayyy

Surprisingly he's probably the most tolerable autocrat in that part of the world, but to answer your question: As with half the problems in the Middle East, the Brits did it.


At least 27 people killed in fierce clashes between Hamas and clan members


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in reply to mrdown

Drug-smuggling bandits, some of whom are related to each other. which is why they're misleadingly described as a clan.
in reply to phutatorius

The USA did not provide a single evidence about it and even Drug smugglers shouldn't be killed but being jailed . It is pretty clear that you do not care about human rights
in reply to Severus_Snape

Wipe out and ban your religious extremists, or they'll get you all killed - when they're not focused on killing you.




Did Qatari Money Drive Trump’s Push for Gaza Ceasefire?


Archive article: archive.is/lx80A
in reply to RandAlThor

Not exactly the most surprising outcome of all time.



in reply to Tony Bark

Always glad to see Israelis stand up to Trump and Netanyahu.
in reply to Tony Bark

Deadass before reading the article I thought it would be Likud bitching that he paused their genocide for 5 minutes.

in reply to Naich

Damn straight and I wanted all this plastic in my brain and balls anyway!
in reply to schizoidman

Renewable energy would "blight the landscape"? As compared to coal?


Carmakers accused in huge UK lawsuits of cheating diesel emissions tests


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50902884

Owners of diesel vehicles made by Mercedes-Benz, Ford, Nissan, Renault and the Stellantis-owned brands Peugeot and Citroen between 2012 and 2017 allege the companies cheated emissions tests.

The manufacturers are accused of using unlawful "defeat devices", which detected when vehicles were being tested and ensured nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions were kept within legal limits under test conditions.


https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/carmakers-face-key-trial-uk-lawsuits-decade-after-dieselgate-scandal-2025-10-13/



Powering the deadly EV boom: 30,000 Chinese migrant workers travel thousands of miles to remote islands in Indonesia to process nickel — and put their lives at risk


cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/44006161

Archived

[...]

Driven by economic and social pressures, tens of thousands of workers from China, mostly middle-aged men, are employed in eastern Indonesia’s nickel industry, which has sprung up in the last decade. Just as critical minerals crisscross the globe before they’re incorporated into cutting-edge products, so too do some of the people who make the world’s green dreams a reality.

[According] to more than a dozen of these Chinese workers and their family members, as well as Indonesian labor leaders who have negotiated factory conditions with top Chinese executives [it was found] that, even following fatal accidents at the smelters, efforts to improve working conditions have been slow, hindered by a lack of oversight from companies, governments, and international labor groups that were dependent on U.S. funding terminated by the Trump administration. We also obtained an internal company review of a nickel smelter expansion that shows facilities are likely spreading pollution and illness well beyond factory walls. Despite the challenges, new nickel processing plants continue to emerge in Indonesia and hire from China.

Before joining Indonesia’s nickel rush, most of these Chinese men had spent almost all their lives in their home country, working in declining steel factories. [...] they had never before owned a passport or boarded a flight. Their leap into the nickel refining industry has helped create entire towns on remote islands in Indonesia, and it’s made them an unlikely backbone of the world’s green energy transition.

[...]

Nickel is a crucial component of EV batteries and energy storage systems. More nickel in an EV battery pack means longer mileage and improved performance from a single charge.

[...]

Indonesian workers, the Chinese companies that run the nickel factories, and international labor and environmental organizations have been attempting to improve working and living conditions. But the few changes that have taken place have come slowly. And such efforts have been hamstrung by the Trump administration’s new Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, which terminated almost all international grants from the U.S. Department of Labor. Those grants funded various initiatives to improve labor rights, occupational safety, and health, including in Indonesia.

[...]

“Tsingshan [Holding Group, a Chinese metal and stainless steel giant Tsingshan that was among the first companies to set up production in Indonesia in the early 2010s] started to snatch up economically strained factory workers nonstop in droves,” said Jiahui Zeng, an anthropologist studying eastern Indonesia’s nickel belt at Tsinghua University in China. “For Chinese nickel workers, migration is pushed by family pressure, such as buying an apartment in a better school district for their children or preparing for a son’s marriage.” But these pressures make Chinese workers extremely vulnerable.

“Terrified of losing their income, they are reluctant to organize and wary of speaking out in Indonesia,” she added.

[...]

[Chinese migrant worker] Wong recalled the instructor telling them there were more than 40 accidents in the industrial parks [in Indonesia] each year that resulted in severe injuries and even deaths. [...] “I didn’t understand much at the time,” said Wong.

But before long, Wong had two close calls of his own. First, he burned the back of his right hand when metallic liquid from the furnace splashed at the exit of the waste tunnel as he was walking past. And one night after heavy rain, soon after he clocked out and left the furnace, Wong stepped on what he thought was a puddle, only to find out that it was a neck-deep pond. Not knowing how to swim, he was only able to save himself by grabbing a nearby pole and pulling himself out of the water.

[...]

Some workers he knew weren’t so lucky. An Indonesian colleague suffered severe injuries to his fingers after disregarding safety protocols to manually fix a glitch in the pouring chain. Another Chinese worker walked onto the top of an electric furnace in wet working boots and was instantly electrocuted into unconsciousness.

[...]

[A] review showed workers at the nickel-processing facilities, as well as residents nearby, were increasingly seeking care for respiratory diseases like tuberculosis, acute pharyngitis, and acute rhinitis. Despite the industrial park being operated by multibillion-dollar corporations, the villages surrounding it still lacked wastewater drainage systems and access to clean water. In six villages outside the complex, a quarter of the residents live less than 30 feet from polluted water sources, and 41% of the residents have symptoms of dry cough.

In 12 nearby villages, the number of children with signs of stunted growth due to malnutrition and gastrointestinal infections increased by 50% in two years. “Officials and agencies know about all this,” an environmental consultant and author of part of the report, who chose to remain anonymous for fear of retribution at work, told Grist. Hardly any of the health and environmental risks were present before the construction of the Morowali Industrial Park [in Indonesia] they said.

[...]

Yet as eastern Indonesia’s nickel industry grows, Chinese migrant workers still don’t have a seat at the table in discussions about their careers and safety.

[...]

in reply to Hotznplotzn

The amount of people downvoting this very insightful and well written article is particularly inordinate. People just want to pretend that things have no consequences? Rarely, if ever, do market forces create happy-go-lucky stories about global production chains
in reply to ToastedRavioli

I guess if it looks like something commissioned by the oil industry, people assume it is. The headline looks like something a bot would link me to try to convince me how "an electric car is the same as an f150 in the end".

Mining nickel looks like it sucks and there's some real consequences to it, but I feel like I'm hearing about it for an other reason.

in reply to Hotznplotzn

Lithium phosphate batteries don’t need nickel. Or cobalt. The industry has already started using them.

arstechnica.com/cars/2025/10/i…

cnn.com/2022/06/01/cars/tesla-…


in reply to floofloof

Interesting that this comes at a time when resistance against raising the military budget us growing. That must be a total coincidence...
in reply to floofloof

Germans say Russia plans to invade any day, likely tomorrow.

uh huh, Germany to annex poland when?

lots of fucking cretins in this thread smdh



Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified


cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50900195

archive.md/kzbKS
Robotics has catapulted Beijing into a dominant position in many industries

“It’s the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen,” said Ford’s chief executive about his recent trip to China.

“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley warned in July.

Andrew Forrest, the Australian billionaire behind mining giant Fortescue – which is investing massively in green energy – says his trips to China convinced him to abandon his company’s attempts to manufacture electric vehicle powertrains in-house.

Other executives describe vast, “dark factories” where robots do so much of the work alone that there is no need to even leave the lights on for humans.

“We visited a dark factory producing some astronomical number of mobile phones,” recalls Greg Jackson, the boss of British energy supplier Octopus.

In Britain, Shenzhen-based BYD multiplied its September sales by a factor of 10 this year – overtaking far more established brands such as Mini, Renault and Land Rover.


in reply to schizoidman

Are they "terrified" enough to shift their approach away from "cut every fucking corner imaginable, rinse repeat"?
in reply to bitjunkie

Worked for a chinese company and here to tell you- that is their approach, always has been.

Wouldn't be surprised if everything the "western execs" saw was a charade put on especially for them that falls apart as easily as Elon's cybertrucks on closer inspection. Don't believe everything you see at an expo or read in The Telegraph.