Windows 10 End Of Life - Your Story
As the Windows 10 EOL date is close I was wondering what fellow Linux users thoughts about it are.
Are you helping open minded people making the switch to Linux? If yes, which distro are you using? Are you using resources like endof10.org?
Or are you using the the opportunity to get your hands on some cheap hardware for your homelab? Are you keeping an eye on special websites or just ebay (or your local equivalent)? Are you talking with local companies to get the hardware directly from them?
Or are you just observing and enjoy your peace of mind because you switched already to Linux before?
Whatever it is, we are very interested to hear your stories concering this interesting time.
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Loops Joins the Fediverse
Loops Joins the Fediverse
We're excited to announce that Loops now federates with the fediverse. After months of development, ActivityPub support has officially entered beta. Your loops can now travel across the open social web.Daniel Supernault (Loops Official Blog)
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Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
Loops Sites Status. Find a Loops server to sign up for, find one close to you!loops.fediverse.observer
I have Seen a post that it should be able by now, yeah.
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Installation-Guide:
github.com/joinloops/loops-ser…
Didnt host my own instance yet, but it looks like you could build your own.Would also make sense because its v1-beta release.
GitHub - joinloops/loops-server: The federated short video sharing platform.
The federated short video sharing platform. Contribute to joinloops/loops-server development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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Fediverse Observer checks all sites in the fediverse and gives you an easy way to find a home from a map or list or automatically.
Loops Sites Status. Find a Loops server to sign up for, find one close to you!loops.fediverse.observer
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I'm sure it still has a ways to go and adoption is key but this just sounds like what the internet honestly needs to fundamentally exist
This isn't just about connecting platforms—it's about fundamentally rethinking how social media works. Instead of being trapped in walled gardens, your content, your followers, and your identity can move freely across the open web.
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Accédez aux publications, aux photos et plus encore sur Facebook.m.facebook.com
And if anyone is on iOS and wants to give their beta app a spin:
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To be clear, the announcement has been made, but federation isn’t actually enabled yet, at least not on the official instance. Verified by searching for loops accounts from mastodon.social and vice versa.
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For anyone else who was thinking of starting an instance, local storage is still a no-go right now
S3-Compatible Storage Required Currently, Loops requires an S3-compatible filesystem (like AWS S3, MinIO, or DigitalOcean Spaces) for avatar and video storage. Support for local storage is on the way but is not yet implemented. Please ensure you have S3 credentials ready before proceeding.
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Cloudflare R2 | Zero Egress Fee Object Storage
Cloudflare R2 is an S3-compatible, zero egress-fee, object storage. Move data freely and build the multi-cloud architecture you desire.www.cloudflare.com
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did they fix the feed and algorithm issues yet? or is it still doing the thing where it shows you the same feed every time you open the app.
edit: just reinstalled to check. it doesn't seem to have been updated since February and the feed issue still persists. that is a shame. I hope they can fix it.
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What exactly are Palestinians going to "continue" to do? Be slaughtered, starved, and otherwise eradicated by the colonialists?
Whether you intended it or not, saying "Israel and Palestine will continue" implies that there's anything resembling an equivalence between the actions of the genocidal apartheid regime and those of Palestinians.
Never
Point 9 of the peace deal. means that Gaza will be controlled by Trump and Tony Blair, and will follow the guidelines of "Trump's 2020 peace plan"
amd Article 4 and 5 of the Palestinian statehood guidelines:
4 Take no action, and shall dismiss all pending actions, against the State of Israel, the United States and any of their citizens before the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice, and all other tribunals;5 Take no action against any Israeli or United States citizen before Interpol or any non-Israeli or United States (as applicable) legal system;
The only way to stop the genocide was by forcing them on pain of starvation (Article 7&8) to become a colony and are barred from seeking any legal justice.
[Video] EDIT: Released Palestinian hostage finds out his family is still alive!He believed they had been killed because the IDF told him so.
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His family is still alive. He believed they had been killed because the IDF told him so. I edited the post.
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When I read "hostage", my mind raced to still black and white photos from WWII. Not full HD colour video footage.
What happened to the world, where its 2025, and there are STILL wars and hostages happening...
Here is a reupload on Catbox files.catbox.moe/9mymc6.mp4
Other people tell me that Catbox does not work for them so this makes it all very difficult. I usually try to upload sub1min stuff to Imgur. But I will try to include a catbox mirror in future posts
Indian textile exporters turn to Europe, offer discounts to offset US tariffs
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50939117
Indian textile exporters are seeking new buyers in Europe and offering discounts to existing U.S. customers to cushion the blow from steep U.S. tariffs of as much as 50%, industry executives said.
I wrote my thesis on Nike's unethical practices. I knew what happened in Pakistan and its just as bad in India (predictably).
All these fucking corporations need to be made to own and operate their own factories.
They outsource to other companies who are unbelievably abusive. I could link NGO researches if anyone wants.
This means they then take no accountability for anything.
From Uyghur Muslims in labour and reeducation camps to mass faintings in Indonesia and rape and sexual assault EVERYWHERE. Not paying labour for months in the pandemic. I actually remember it being years.
It is impossible to do so I tell you. They threaten to pack bags and leave if you dare take any action against them.
No government can control corpos. Hell they were using 'tax saving methods' that hurt the US, were in the panama papers. Also part of a dodgy scheme in the Netherlands.
I could go in detail but i can assure you that it is impossible to do so your way.
Australian Government gets a taste of what everyday people have to deal with in terms of data breaches as Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's mobile phone number released online
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ABC News provides the latest news and headlines in Australia and around the world.Evelyn Manfield (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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New punishments for hacking politicians' phones.
Zero changes for anyone else.
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It's really the phone companies' fault for stagnating instead of innovating.
There is no reason at this point for most people to have phone numbers at all. We have the technology today to throw the whole concept out the window.
Replace it with something where a stranger couldn't guess how to contact a random person. Replace it with something where third parties can't easily share your contact info.
You could even have both technologies at the same time to help transition. And we do, as users, but we still need phone numbers because our carriers don't give us multiple options directly.
Phone numbers are based on requirements for a system that's almost 150 years old now. Back when the numbers really meant locations and before people realized how easy it could be exploited to steal old people's retirement money.
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Your device and account credentials are unique enough to identify you on the carrier-level, SIM/eSIM as well. Ultimately, every time you share your contact info, it should be a unique code (QR would be convenient enough) generated by your cell provider. If it's ever leaked, you just notify your carrier to burn it, and give the contact a new unique code. No two people should be given the same contact, and all of the contacts are simply correlated to your device by the carrier. Additionally, when sharing contacts via QR, they could be modified on the device-level to include e2e encryption keys, thus further securing the transmitted information, not at the trust-me-bro carrier level, but at the user-verifiable device level. If the carrier gets hacked, reset the identifiers, associate the new one in your text app to keep conversations going, and move on like nothing happened. You'll still be better off than if your phone number was leaked. It's not perfect, but it'd be a hell of a lot more secure than what we have now.
In other words: What if a billion dollar company made Signal, but with cell towers, and not as good?
QR would be convenient enough
My friend, that is not convenient. Phone numbers need to be memorable, and need to be transmittable offline without relying on technology. Old people use phones...
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That said, it does pose the problem of contacting someone with a phone that isn't your own, perhaps from jail. I'm sure they would never suggest putting an emergency contact chip in your hand for your own health and safety. No government would ever suggest something so silly. /s
If I want to contact a business though I know I need to dial 555-123-4568, and I know that because there was a little jingle at the end of the advert. But if they just flash up a QR code then do I just have to wait until the ad is on TV again? There's a reason they don't really put QR codes on TV but they do on YouTube where you can pause it, and queue up the video whenever you wanted.
It's not an awful idea but it needs a bit of refinement. That needs to be some kind of way to associate a human readable identifier to the contact.
We use QR codes all of the time for websites but eventually that still boils down to a URL in plain text.
Businesses are a separate use case. Phone companies already handle separate use cases, where they use very short memorable numbers for specific purposes. They just need something similar, whether it's keeping phone numbers, or using something slightly different. Probably some sort of simple alias.
It's the phone companies that need to innovate, and the solution isn't very hard.
You say the solution isn't very hard but what you are suggesting is basically just obfuscating phone numbers. Surely the actual solution is to just make spam calling illegal.
Oh and just cut Indias data connection, because those guys are never going to fix their scam call centre problem because the government and police are corrupt.
You could argue that cryptography is nothing but a type of obfuscation. I was trying to explain things so that the very average person could understand it.
People don't stop doing things just because you make it illegal. You even know this because you mentioned India. However people actually do stop when you make it nearly impossible.
For those who ran their own mail servers it already did, via the +something notation.
Unfortunately the industry and the Internet in general went the other way.
EDIT: Oh, you mean temporary address. Easy. You have tracker nodes and receipt nodes. You publish on all tracker nodes you know your receipt node (by temporary address) every time you generate a temporary address. So those mailing you find it on trackers and post there. On that receipt node your temporary address is associated with some secret, allowing you to retrieve your incoming mail. The easiest way is that the temporary address is a pubkey and to confirm ownership you just need to sign a request for mail, or maybe it'll be encrypted with it and no good for anyone else. Or both.
In Tox you have a code on the end of the Tox address. One can do similar, but have different codes for different levels of acceptance. Default - ignore. Some other code - add to the list of callers without notification. Some other - with notification. Some other - for SMS, but not calls, or the other way around. And so on.
The problem with things being memorable exists, yes. Computers can make calls, meaning that there's no solution. A good secret required to call someone can't be memorable.
Sure you can have a unique identifier. That’s not the issue. The issue is that anyone can contact you via your phone number! This is not a problem with chat apps where people need permission to add you to their contact list. Why not have a system like that?
Same goes for credit cards. They should need to ask for permission to charge your credit card. Merely knowing your credit card info should not be enough.
It will not change if instead of the phone number we use the IMEI or a UUID, somewhere you need to have a link between the owner and the something, if nothing else in your phone and at the phone company.
I intentionally was vague because there are many possible existing ways to accomplish each thing I said, and it is up to the phone company to innovate.
The simplest way to keep people from guessing phone numbers is to make them very long and sparse. If an autodialer had to dial 1000 invalid numbers before finding a valid number, it would make the endeavor that much harder. This is just a convenient example because the cryptography equivalent is harder to explain, but you could make contact info so hard to guess that it would be basically impossible.
Probably the easiest way to explain how to keep people from passing contact info is to imagine a two step process like facebook has. If I pass your facebook username to someone else, they don't automatically become your friend. The cryptographic equivalent would involve a chain of trust, but again, harder to explain.
not op but signal has basically solved this. users are not just randomly accessible by anyone. they can share a long URL that contains an ID, or make a short username they like and pass around to people. and even then the recipient has to accept being contacted by each other user
true that signal now relies on the phone number system for trust and safety, but that's not core to how signal works, it could be replaced if they really wanted.
any change would break a billion things in real life, so we could at least have a proper replacement.
the problem with signal here is that it's centralized, probably couldn't even handle the load besides other problems. but that's solvable, like look at simplex which is similar
Federal political sources downplayed the seriousness of the issue, believing the issue was not related to a data leak or breach.Sources noted the private contact information for politicians was often already widely available and known by stakeholders and members of the public they had interacted with. Some pointed out that politicians often kept the same contact details for years, from when they were more junior politicians who freely distributed their numbers on public documents like press releases or community announcements.
It's kinda funny how times change.
In Germany, it even used to be that your phone number, along with your name and address, was published in the phone book, by law. If you wanted to be delisted, you had to provide a valid reason, such as being stalked. Just because was not good enough. At every street corner was a phone booth with the phone book of your town with your name and address. At post offices, you could find phone books from other towns. (The phone system was run by the postal service, which was a government agency.)
Phone books were a bit of a plot point in Terminator. The terminator gets the list of Connors from the phone book and kills them in that order.
I'm speaking of my experiences in the United States. Here, phone books tend to be separated into white pages and yellow pages. The white pages listed names, addresses and phone numbers of private lines, usually homes, and the yellow pages listed businesses. Taking out a listing in the yellow pages was the SEO of its day.
When the internet happened, the one thing that never really happened was a freely searchable database of the white pages. One thing the internet was never useful for as an upstanding citizen was looking up personal phone numbers.
Why do we still still use phone numbers for communication? It’s a terrible idea. One unifying piece of information that if anyone gets they can use. Bah.
We should have a communication method that both sides consent to before allowing the connection. Either side can kill that connection at any time by revoking permission on either side. The contact info shouldn’t be the same for everyone either, but something ephemeral instead. Unique. A burner phone number that’s different to each person and only useful if the connection originates from the one meant to have that number.
It’s 2025. We still have “you have been hacked, give me gift cards to save your Google Chrome” style shit going on.
Reminds me of SSH keys a bit!
What is an SSH key? SSH key pairs explained
Learn all about SSH keys, including how they work for authentication, what the key pair is, how to generate the public and private keys, and more.Sectigo
Korea's military faces officer shortage amid record exodus - The Korea Times
According to data obtained from the Ministry of the National Defense by Rep. Yu Yong-weon of the main opposition People Power Party (PPP), the number of voluntary resignations among officers and noncommissioned officers with 10 to 20 years of service reached an all-time high last year.A total of 1,821 personnel in that category left the military in 2024, up from 960 in 2021. As of the end of September this year, 1,327 had already filed for voluntary discharge.
The number of officers taking leave has also increased sharply, from 2,252 in 2021 to 3,412 last year, with this year’s figure already at 3,401.
Korea's military faces officer shortage amid record exodus
South Korea’s military is confronting a deepening personnel crisis as record numbers of mid-ranking officers — the backbone of its command structur...Bahk Eun-ji (The Korea Times)
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Antibiotic resistance surges globally, UN health agency warns
new data show that one in six bacterial infections globally are resistant to standard antibiotics“Antimicrobial resistance is outpacing advances in modern medicine, threatening the health of families worldwide,” said WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.
Antibiotic resistance surges globally, UN health agency warns
Common infections are becoming harder – and sometimes impossible – to treat, the UN World Health Organization (WHO) warned on Monday, as new data show that one in six bacterial infections globally are resistant to standard antibiotics, endangering mi…UN News
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So super ebola is gonna come from the US.
American Journalist Says She Experienced ‘Extreme Brutality’ at Hands of Israeli Guards, Including Beatings and ‘Threats of Rape’
Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with “extreme brutality” on Monday, including beatings and “threats of rape,” after being taken by Israeli forces from international waters while aboard the Conscience Freedom Flotilla.
In a video statement published to social media, Schnall – a Los Angeles-born photojournalist who had been reporting from the flotilla for Drop Site News – recalled the “extreme brutality” she allegedly experienced during her captivity.
“Any flotilla member who upset the Israeli guards was subjected to twisted and tightened handcuffs and some received beatings,” she said. “I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull by a group of men and women guards, one of whom sat on my neck and face, blocking my airways.”
The journalist continued, “Many comrades, understandably, do not want their identity made public when recounting this treatment. During the evening, the men were tormented by guards with attack dogs and guns. The women were threatened with pepper spray. Our cell was awoken with threats of rape.”
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Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with "extreme brutality," including beatings and "threats of rape."Charlie Nash (Mediaite)
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As we often get told, these are the Israeli "authorities" so of course it's a "fee".
It's only a "ransom" when it's charged by an "organization", which what the Palestinians have.
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Fucking monsters.
I think the play book from IDF apologists is to say: "she's a liar", "Israel never does anything wrong", "the people were punished this is a fringe case"
Not that this is a systemic fucking thing and what they do to anyone who doesn't agree with them.
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Israeli captives felt like they were going to get raped because their guard stared at them for a few seconds.
Palestinian captives should not feel like they were going to get raped because their guards yell at them that they are going to rape them.
American Journalist Says She Experienced ‘Extreme Brutality’ at Hands of Israeli Guards, Including Beatings and ‘Threats of Rape’
Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with “extreme brutality” on Monday, including beatings and “threats of rape,” after being taken by Israeli forces from international waters while aboard the Conscience Freedom Flotilla.
In a video statement published to social media, Schnall – a Los Angeles-born photojournalist who had been reporting from the flotilla for Drop Site News – recalled the “extreme brutality” she allegedly experienced during her captivity.
“Any flotilla member who upset the Israeli guards was subjected to twisted and tightened handcuffs and some received beatings,” she said. “I was hung from the metal shackles on my wrists and ankles and beaten in the stomach, back, face, ear, and skull by a group of men and women guards, one of whom sat on my neck and face, blocking my airways.”
The journalist continued, “Many comrades, understandably, do not want their identity made public when recounting this treatment. During the evening, the men were tormented by guards with attack dogs and guns. The women were threatened with pepper spray. Our cell was awoken with threats of rape.”
American Journalist Says She Experienced ‘Extreme Brutality’ at Hands of Israeli Guards, Inclu ...
Journalist Noa Avishag Schnall accused Israeli guards of treating her and other prisoners with "extreme brutality," including beatings and "threats of rape."Charlie Nash (Mediaite)
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Venezuela's Maduro calls Nobel Peace laureate Machado a 'demonic witch'
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Well, that's where the bar is. In Venezuela, and soon maybe also in the US, if Trump gets his way.
And without elections, it's going to be a lot harder to get change.
Secret Israeli military bunker located under Tel Aviv tower struck by Iran, analysis shows [Jack Poulson and Wyatt Reed | October 13, 2025]
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/37318212
The Grayzone has geolocated the underground bunker of an important military command and control center nestled within a densely populated Tel Aviv neighborhood. Known as ‘Site 81,’ the U.S.-built facility houses a hyper-secretive intelligence base.When Iran struck a series of targets in the heart of north Tel Aviv with ballistic missiles on June 13, Israeli authorities immediately cordoned off the area to prevent journalists from filming the damage. “The building on this compound was just hit,” Trey Yingst of Fox News reported as he arrived that evening at the site of HaKirya, Israel’s Defense Ministry headquarters, and the nearby Azrieli Center. But within seconds, Israeli police officers arrived to aggressively shunt Yingst away from where he was standing, just north of the HaKirya Bridge on the west side of Menachem Begin Road.
That day, Iranian missiles struck the north tower of the Da Vinci apartment complex roughly 550 meters southwest of Yingst’s location. The Grayzone has determined that the building sits immediately south of the “Canarit” / “Kannarit” Israeli Air Force towers and above an underground military intelligence bunker jointly administered by the US and Israeli militaries. According to an analysis of leaked emails, public documents, and Israeli news reports, the location is host to a highly secretive, electromagnetically shielded intelligence facility known as “Site 81.”
Israel aggressively censors information relating to its urban military and intelligence facilities while simultaneously accusing its adversaries of engaging in ‘human shielding’ – a practice of protecting military targets with civilian populations that is prohibited by international humanitarian law. While the existence of a U.S. Army project to expand Site 81 to a 6,000 square-meter facility was widely reported from government records circa 2013, the specific location remained unknown...
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How Israel is laying the groundwork for ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon
For the early Zionists, settling Palestine meant settling the largest possible territory that vaguely overlapped with their biblical vision of the holy land.
Maps presented by the World Zionist Organization to the Paris Conference clearly show that Zionists sought to include in their territory southern Lebanon, including the Litani River and up to the coastal city of Saida - an estimated 60km from the current border.
Zionists, like all European settlers, were also keen to secure the most fertile land and fresh water sources. Eastern boundaries of the proposed map included large swathes of Syrian and Jordanian territory that fully engulfed Lake Tiberias and the Jordan River. French counter-proposals forced the Zionists to confine their activities after WWI to what is now referred to as historic Palestine.
Initial ambitions to colonise southern Lebanon were shelved but never extinguished. During this latest war, Michael Freund, who previously served as Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s deputy communications director, claimed that “historically speaking, southern Lebanon is in fact northern Israel”. He cited the Book of Joshua as mentioning “Sidon explicitly as being promised to the Jewish people”. Freund also listed several shrines in the south as Jewish and evidence of the right to the land.
The invocation of religious sites as justification for colonial conquest is an old and debunked Zionist trope. Freund was not alone in reviving it. One of Israel’s pseudo-archaeologists, Zeev Erlich, was embedded in the Israeli army during the recent invasion of Lebanon. Israeli troops burned and destroyed parts of the shrine. Before withdrawing, they demolished the surrounding historic buildings of the village’s old quarter, the very place they claimed as theirs.
How Israel is laying the groundwork for ethnic cleansing in southern Lebanon
Domestic haggling over the disarmament of Hezbollah is overshadowing the long-term and regional dimensions of Israel's warMiddle East Eye
Venezuela’s Opposition Used UN Meeting to Lobby for US Coup
Meanwhile, the Venezuelan opposition, led by former presidential candidate María Corina Machado, the far-right extremist who just won the Nobel Peace Prize, used the UN General Assembly (UNGA) as a lobbying platform, courting the Trump administration and sympathetic foreign governments to support a coup to depose President Nicolás Maduro. She has been part of multiple calls for US interventions in Venezuela, including to, in her words, secure the “total asphyxiation of the Venezuelan economy.”
The opposition organized demonstrations in front of the Secretariat Building to denounce Maduro and call for the world to intervene. Pedro de Mendonça, Press Director for Machado’s campaign, hosted a protest saying, “Maduro is not the legitimate president of Venezuela, but the head of the Cartel of the Suns and the Tren de Aragua.” Mendonça called for “a free Venezuela and a secure West” through an “international coalition.” This is as direct a call for intervention as you could get. Machado retweeted it.
Venezuela’s Opposition Used UN Meeting to Lobby for US Coup | naked capitalism
The so-called opposition, with a much-needed rebranding assist from the Nobel Committee, proposes total economic surrender to US oligarchic interests.Conor Gallagher (naked capitalism)
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Ceasefire Sparks Fresh Calls for Global Media Access to Gaza
Ceasefire Sparks Fresh Calls for Global Media Access to Gaza
Press groups are also demanding justice for the more than 200 journalists slaughtered in Palestinian territory over the past two years.jessica-corbett (Common Dreams)
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Katie Porter's meltdown proves candidates can't be shamed into quitting anymore
Katie Porter’s video meltdowns won’t make her quit her California governor campaign
In the digital era, candidates have no incentive to drop out; given the ocean of information, any attention is now good attention.Christian Schneider (MSNBC)
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What ever happened to Nicole the fediverse chick?
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A copycat spammer started sending gore pictures to people using the same Nicole copypasta text. A lot of people got upset and there was a flurry of discussion over like a 24h period. Some people seemed to think it was a serial killer and Nicole had been doxxed and killed. In reality if I recall right the picture was from a morgue somewhere in China.
Anyway the whole thing led to a general "okay maybe the joke has run its course and we shouldn't encourage this" type of moment and the sub was shut down. Presumably the spammer stopped spamming once they no longer received attention, but maybe the admins found and IP banned them or something. I have no idea.
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It was probably poorly phrased but I feel like I remember there was a group of various instance admins at the time discussing ways to deal with it, so it was more of a reference to maybe they figured something out.
You're right that they used tiny instances with no oversight and open registrations to ban evade for a long time even before this debacle when it was just normal Nicole spam.
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imgdrop.io was shut down
Nicole content was banned on LW. At first it was just the usual spam, but then multiple users received PMs of extremely violent NSFW content with what appeared to be Nicole.
Won’t post what it was here, but you can go to the below link and find a comment from another user that marked it as a Spoiler. Note, it’s a trigger warning if you are sensitive to extreme violence/gore (no picture, just a text description).
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UK arms received by Israel reach record high value in 2025
Last week, FactCheck revealed that Israel imported over £400,000 worth of arms from UK companies in June 2025 – the highest monthly amount since these records began in January 2022.
The exact nature of the items wasn’t specified in the data, but they were listed under a category that includes bombs, grenades, torpedoes, missiles, and ammunition.
And we can now exclusively reveal that September was the second highest value month on record, with over £310,000 worth of UK munitions under this same category arriving in Israel.
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Israel dismissed the Commission’s report as “distorted and false” and said the expert panel were acting as “Hamas proxies”.
The UK government told us it does not “export bombs or ammunition for IDF use in military operations in Gaza or the West Bank”.
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Aaand this is why UK has been so adamant to quell protests against Israel’s genocidal actions: money
Enjoy the MMOG of capitalism, where only a few griefers using exploits get to win.
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Planet’s first catastrophic climate tipping point reached, report says, with coral reefs facing ‘widespread dieback’
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Haha, I was just joking with my buddy the other day about how liberals only know how to ask for better institutions. When they form an organization, its purpose is to ask malicious institutions to become kinder. You won't be the people to solve this issue.
By the way, you don't use this reply guy alt account enough to make it believable. Are you getting too slow?
Unless global heating is reduced to 1.2C
If we plateaued right now and did everything possible to draw CO2 out of the atmosphere and oceans, it would probably take a few thousand years to get back down. The reasoning - we weren't the main CO2 contributor, we just were the extra catalyst to throw things off to begin the acceleration up. So now that things are off balance and feedbacks are kicking in, how can we reverse what we put into the environment AND counter the extra feedback outputs? It's like trying to stop the boulder that was easy to push onto the hill slope.
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Here in South Australia we are starting to see the effects and it's pretty chilling.
The algae bloom affecting many of our suburban beaches (which is most of Adelaide) and a lot of country ones are seeing huge numbers of dead marine life being washed up.
Anything from leafy sea dragons to fish, stingrays, and sharks. The foam created on some days covers whole sections of beach.
While apparently it's safe, there are warnings that you may experience breathing issues and rashes so your supposed to bring your inhaler and rinse off after you have been in. On windy days it can affect you even if your walking close to the beach.
As we head into summer the damage to local seaford providers (the seafood is fine to consume but people are wary) and cafe owners will be huge and is already starting to take effect.
Because our beaches are so close, people would go down after work for a dip or have a drink at the suburban pubs and cafes.
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ABC News provides the latest news and headlines in Australia and around the world.Jessica Haynes (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
From the Abstract:
"Our analysis reveals three critical success factors: (1) higher carbon prices per capita are essential for carbon reduction, (2) the necessity of penalties on carbon price per capita from EUR 20–EUR 100, and (3) expanded market coverage maximizes impact. To address global disparities, we propose a Uniform Carbon Pricing Mechanism under the Global Carbon Resilience Framework (GCRF), based on carbon price per capita tiered pricing: EUR 100/t (developed), EUR 30–50 (developing), and EUR 5–15 (least-developed countries). This balanced system supports vulnerable regions while cutting emissions, proving that fair carbon pricing is crucial for climate goals and economic stability."
Those points look sane, to me.
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Forty-two killed as bus crashes on South Africa mountain pass
N1 crash: Forty-two Zimbabweans and Malawians killed after bus veers off road in South Africa
The dead were nationals of Zimbabwe and Malawi returning home, officials say.Khanyisile Ngcobo (BBC News)
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India and Canada reset ties after strain of Sikh leader's murder
Anita Anand: Canada foreign minister meets Indian PM Modi amid thawing ties
Canada's foreign minister visits Delhi as the sides restore ties strained by a murder on Canadian soil.Neyaz Farooquee (BBC News)
German club condemns fan behaviour after tourists attacked
Dublin: FC Schalke 04 fans' behaviour condemned after tourists attacked
The incident on Abbey Street was said to have happened on Saturday, as supporters marched through the city centre.Mike McBride (BBC News)
Middle East 'doomed' without Palestinian state, King of Jordan tells BBC
Middle East 'doomed' without Palestinian state, King of Jordan says
In an exclusive interview with BBC Panorama, the king says a two-state solution is the only answer.Fergal Keane (BBC News)
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I think this is more of a "If Israel keep this up, they'll be coming for the rest of us once they're done with Palestine. We need them as a distraction / punching bag to keep Israel busy."
So far Jordan has kept their heads down and been left alone, but King Abdullah is probably starting to feeling a little tight around the shirt-collar as Israel's belligerence continues to rise.
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How are the Jordanians Zionist collaborators ?
Not trolling I don't really know but always thought they supported the Palestinians and argued for a two state solution.
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Their rhetoric is passable if you squint, but their actions are really not. It's a tossup between them, Egypt and the Emirates for the worst Zionist collaborators in the region.
The fact that there's a whole section titles "economic relations" should tell you all you need to know, but to add insult to injury they helped protect Israel from the April 2024 Iran strikes.
From the linked article I find nothing that really implicates them in Zionism.
The openly criticize every but of the genocide and have been amongst the first to call them out, they are strict on the west bank and have been calling for a two state solution.
The fact that they do have business accords and treaties with the Israeli has more to do with the fact that they are neighbors and Israel can basically land lock them, if they want.
I'm curious how you'd say they are more supportive to Israel than say the UK or other European countries, who have -with exemptions- more actively supported the Israeli.
The fact that they do have business accords and treaties with the Israeli has more to do with the fact that they are neighbors and Israel can basically land lock them, if they want.
They were doing fine until 1994, and less strictly until the early 2010s, so whatever problems they're solving by trading with Israel are clearly not existential threats. Jordan is too valuable to Western interests for Israel to "landlock them" as you put it. You'd expect an Arab Muslim country to at least boycott Israel, not actively pursue trade relations with them. Given their actions, their rhetoric is meaningless. Now the Jordanian government isn't run by Zionists obviously, but they clearly give much less of a shit than they want you to think.
I'm curious how you'd say they are more supportive to Israel than say the UK or other European countries, who have -with exemptions- more actively supported the Israeli.
That's why I said "in the region."
Fair enough, thanks for taking the time to explain your position.
I somewhat agree with you, I found the term 'zionist collaborators' a bit much, but I'd say that pragmatism and their own trade interests have priority over their moral stance. And I find that that is the most common attitude among many nations. Maybe Spain and Ireland did put some money where there mouth is... but generally nations skirt outright criticism over carefully worded 'disagreement' whislt not condamning Israel.
I agree you'd expect something more, certainly from a neigbour that 'considers the Palestinians as family', but here we are...
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At least 27 people killed in fierce clashes between Hamas and clan members
Gaza City clashes between Hamas and clan members leave 27 dead
At least 27 people have been killed in one of the most violent internal confrontations since Israeli troops withdrew.Rushdi Abualouf (BBC News)
Portugal’s far-right Chega falls well short of expectations in local elections
Portugal’s far-right Chega falls well short of expectations in local elections
Party hoped to take 30 municipalities but secured three after share of vote halved from parliamentary electionsJon Henley (The Guardian)
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Mexico floods leave at least 64 dead and 65 missing, authorities say
Mexico floods leave at least 64 dead and 65 missing, authorities say
Overflowing rivers swept through entire villages, triggered landslides and swept away roads and bridgesGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
Did Qatari Money Drive Trump’s Push for Gaza Ceasefire?
Did Qatari Money Drive Trump’s Push for Gaza Ceasefire?
Trump’s stance on Gaza shifted after Israel’s attack on Qatar — a close ally where he and his family have key business deals.Jonah Valdez (The Intercept)
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Donald Trump's speech at Israeli parliament interrupted as legislators call him "terrorist"
Donald Trump's speech at Israeli parliament interrupted as legislators call him "terrorist" - LGBTQ Nation
The politicians held signs that said "genocide" and "recognize Palestine" while Trump spoke.Daniel Villarreal (LGBTQ Nation)
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A banner at an August 2022 Conservative Political Action Conference conference read, "We Are All Domestic Terrorists."
Rating: Correct Attribution
Did a CPAC Banner Say, 'We Are All Domestic Terrorists'?
A banner at an August 2022 CPAC conference read, "We Are All Domestic Terrorists."David Emery (Snopes.com)
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Australia's Queensland reverses policy, pledges to keep using coal power
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50903066
Australia's Queensland state government said on Friday it would run coal power plants at least into the 2040s, reversing a previous plan to pivot rapidly to renewables
Carmakers accused in huge UK lawsuits of cheating diesel emissions tests
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50902884
Owners of diesel vehicles made by Mercedes-Benz, Ford, Nissan, Renault and the Stellantis-owned brands Peugeot and Citroen between 2012 and 2017 allege the companies cheated emissions tests.The manufacturers are accused of using unlawful "defeat devices", which detected when vehicles were being tested and ensured nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions were kept within legal limits under test conditions.
Powering the deadly EV boom: 30,000 Chinese migrant workers travel thousands of miles to remote islands in Indonesia to process nickel — and put their lives at risk
cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/44006161
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Driven by economic and social pressures, tens of thousands of workers from China, mostly middle-aged men, are employed in eastern Indonesia’s nickel industry, which has sprung up in the last decade. Just as critical minerals crisscross the globe before they’re incorporated into cutting-edge products, so too do some of the people who make the world’s green dreams a reality.
[According] to more than a dozen of these Chinese workers and their family members, as well as Indonesian labor leaders who have negotiated factory conditions with top Chinese executives [it was found] that, even following fatal accidents at the smelters, efforts to improve working conditions have been slow, hindered by a lack of oversight from companies, governments, and international labor groups that were dependent on U.S. funding terminated by the Trump administration. We also obtained an internal company review of a nickel smelter expansion that shows facilities are likely spreading pollution and illness well beyond factory walls. Despite the challenges, new nickel processing plants continue to emerge in Indonesia and hire from China.
Before joining Indonesia’s nickel rush, most of these Chinese men had spent almost all their lives in their home country, working in declining steel factories. [...] they had never before owned a passport or boarded a flight. Their leap into the nickel refining industry has helped create entire towns on remote islands in Indonesia, and it’s made them an unlikely backbone of the world’s green energy transition.
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Nickel is a crucial component of EV batteries and energy storage systems. More nickel in an EV battery pack means longer mileage and improved performance from a single charge.
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Indonesian workers, the Chinese companies that run the nickel factories, and international labor and environmental organizations have been attempting to improve working and living conditions. But the few changes that have taken place have come slowly. And such efforts have been hamstrung by the Trump administration’s new Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, which terminated almost all international grants from the U.S. Department of Labor. Those grants funded various initiatives to improve labor rights, occupational safety, and health, including in Indonesia.
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“Tsingshan [Holding Group, a Chinese metal and stainless steel giant Tsingshan that was among the first companies to set up production in Indonesia in the early 2010s] started to snatch up economically strained factory workers nonstop in droves,” said Jiahui Zeng, an anthropologist studying eastern Indonesia’s nickel belt at Tsinghua University in China. “For Chinese nickel workers, migration is pushed by family pressure, such as buying an apartment in a better school district for their children or preparing for a son’s marriage.” But these pressures make Chinese workers extremely vulnerable.
“Terrified of losing their income, they are reluctant to organize and wary of speaking out in Indonesia,” she added.
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[Chinese migrant worker] Wong recalled the instructor telling them there were more than 40 accidents in the industrial parks [in Indonesia] each year that resulted in severe injuries and even deaths. [...] “I didn’t understand much at the time,” said Wong.
But before long, Wong had two close calls of his own. First, he burned the back of his right hand when metallic liquid from the furnace splashed at the exit of the waste tunnel as he was walking past. And one night after heavy rain, soon after he clocked out and left the furnace, Wong stepped on what he thought was a puddle, only to find out that it was a neck-deep pond. Not knowing how to swim, he was only able to save himself by grabbing a nearby pole and pulling himself out of the water.
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Some workers he knew weren’t so lucky. An Indonesian colleague suffered severe injuries to his fingers after disregarding safety protocols to manually fix a glitch in the pouring chain. Another Chinese worker walked onto the top of an electric furnace in wet working boots and was instantly electrocuted into unconsciousness.
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[A] review showed workers at the nickel-processing facilities, as well as residents nearby, were increasingly seeking care for respiratory diseases like tuberculosis, acute pharyngitis, and acute rhinitis. Despite the industrial park being operated by multibillion-dollar corporations, the villages surrounding it still lacked wastewater drainage systems and access to clean water. In six villages outside the complex, a quarter of the residents live less than 30 feet from polluted water sources, and 41% of the residents have symptoms of dry cough.
In 12 nearby villages, the number of children with signs of stunted growth due to malnutrition and gastrointestinal infections increased by 50% in two years. “Officials and agencies know about all this,” an environmental consultant and author of part of the report, who chose to remain anonymous for fear of retribution at work, told Grist. Hardly any of the health and environmental risks were present before the construction of the Morowali Industrial Park [in Indonesia] they said.
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Yet as eastern Indonesia’s nickel industry grows, Chinese migrant workers still don’t have a seat at the table in discussions about their careers and safety.
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Chinese migrant workers drive Indonesia’s nickel industry for EVs - Rest of World
Over 30,000 Chinese workers travel to Indonesia’s remote islands to work in nickel smelters, fueling the global EV transition while facing dangerous conditions.Kate Bubacz (Rest of World)
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Ah yes the oil supporting Uproot Project of the Environmental Justice Fellowship...
Just because nickel mining is verifiably awful doesn't mean oil rig work is any better. The point most serious environmental groups make is that we shouldn't just replace fossil fuel based exploitation and environmental destruction with metal and rare earth ones instead.
We should focus on an overall reduction of consumption not just taking the over 1 billion cars and turning them electric but instead rethinking our whole relationship with nature.
Actually fair enough - having read the whole article it does seem much more preoccupied with the dangers of nickel mining than the proven negative effects of fossil fuels and stuff like this is quite obvious pro-ff propaganda
It’s almost impossible to transition away from fossil fuels without nickel from Indonesia,” said Johnny Linghui Ni, a United Kingdom-based research analyst for Project Blue, a data provider on critical minerals. “And it may stay this way until at least 2030, if not longer.”
Still useful to learn about but compared to the landscape of positive oil rig articles this definitely doesn't pass the smell test - thanks!
The article doesnt talk about fossil fuels because it has nothing to do with fossil fuels. Everyone knows fossil fuels are bad, that doesnt give a pass to labor violations and the environmental issues with nickel mining in Indonesia.
Arguing otherwise is like saying that someone writing an article on the health issues of vaping and environmental issues with their battery waste isnt spending enough time talking about how bad smoking cigarettes is, or how bad cigarette butts are for the environment. Its like… the article is talking about completely different shit. Advocating for reforms in the nickel production industry doesnt necessitate opining on how fossil fuels are worse.
People have no media literacy anymore, for fucks sake. Fossil fuels propaganda would spend a ton of time saying “look how bad nickel mining is in comparison to fossil fuel production” which this article doesnt do whatsoever. The only secondary aspect of this article is about the collapse of steel industry in rural northern china has supplied most of the workforce to the nickel plants in Indonesia, and how those areas are contracting due to their workers being exported
I feel it's complicated - on one hand yes they are supposedly anti-fossil fuels and are saying to replace them with electrified alternatives - on the other the website has so many pro-AI articles that do have some anti-ff messaging but also an underlying "well it does suck but it's unrealistic to power them with anything else so whacu gonna do"
Some data centers have invested in transmission and distribution networks, at times increasing their investment by over 35% to connect to the grid. Still, concerns about the energy deficit and the impacts of fossil fuels haven’t affected new investments, Rivera Cerecedo said.“We aren’t seeing a slowdown in the industry,” she said. “The effort that companies developing data centers are making to stay in Mexico is big.”
and for a newspaper focused on "VCs sitting in Palo Alto to think twice when a proposal from Indonesia comes across their desk" the above does read like unvoiced support for whatever gets them their superintelligent AI dream.
Idk I'm just saying that this may not be pro-fossil fuels but its still definitely pro-capitlaism and industrial exploitation under the veneer of neo-liberal human rights concerns..
Telling the Untold Tech Stories
“My goal is to change hearts and minds.” Sophie Schmidt, the founder of Rest of World, an Award-winning nonprofit international journalism organization focused on the impact of technology beyond the Western bubble. Brunswick's Kirsty Cameron reports.Kirsty Cameron (Brunswick Review)
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I guess if it looks like something commissioned by the oil industry, people assume it is. The headline looks like something a bot would link me to try to convince me how "an electric car is the same as an f150 in the end".
Mining nickel looks like it sucks and there's some real consequences to it, but I feel like I'm hearing about it for an other reason.
Lithium phosphate batteries don’t need nickel. Or cobalt. The industry has already started using them.
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It’s back! The 2027 Chevy Bolt gets an all-new LFP battery, but what else?
255 miles of range, new infotainment, but where did all the torque go?Jonathan M. Gitlin (Ars Technica)
Russia ready for 'hot confrontation' with Europe at any moment, German intelligence head warns
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Russia ready for 'hot confrontation' with Europe at any moment, German intelligence head warns
"We can’t simply wait and assume that a potential Russian attack won't come before 2029," German intelligence chief Martin Jaeger said. "We’re already under fire today."Martin Fornusek (The Kyiv Independent)
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Russian society's genuine love for genocidal imperialism has nothing to do with propaganda (if that's what you were referring to).
Mind you, they are fully capable of change, they just don't want to and have no incentive to do (Westerners enabling and promoting their victim-hood narratives only contributes to this).
Russian society’s genuine love for genocidal imperialism has nothing to do with propaganda (if that’s what you were referring to).
Oh, I'd venture that propaganda is one big contributor to that sentiment, even if the sentiment has been present for a very long time (certainly since WW2). Old horseshit is still horseshit.
Look at American exceptionalism as another example of long-standing unfounded belief that's exploited by many factions of that country's ruling elite.
As I said, I don't buy the propaganda excuse. Independent information sources (in russian) have always been easily available and accessible by all (literally in under 10 seconds). Just look at the creation dates of the DW Russian or BBC Russian YT channels (or even their own TV Dozdh). By mid 2010s YT was widely available not only on desktop, but even on smartphones. Not to mention russians full well know what the KGB is like and how dishonest they are.
Let me give you an illustrative example.
You have Vladimir Kara-murza, darling of the west, went to jail for public opposition to the full scale invasion, western educated and with UK citizenship. And yet here is a recent statement from Kara-Murza:
There is another reason why the Russian Defense Ministry recruits so many members of ethnic minorities [to fight in the war against Ukraine]: as it turns out, because it is psychologically really difficult for [ethnic] Russians to kill Ukrainians. Because we are one people. We are very close peoples, as everybody knows. We have nearly the same language, the same religion, and centuries of history in common. But if it’s someone from another culture, allegedly it’s easier [for them to kill Ukrainians]. I hadn’t really thought about it before. I thought the reasons were primarily economic. But after what [a colleague who spoke about the Buryats] said, I started thinking about it too.
He said this in a speech to the French senate, no less!
We are not on people and I want nothing to with any of them, be it putin or Vladimir Kara-Murza.
And yet WaPo decided to give him the opportunity to write another bullshit article about russian victimhood and innocence.
Putin’s anxiety is understandable. The Kremlin knows that public opposition to the Ukraine war is much greater than what its propaganda would admit.
Is Vladimir Kara-Murza under the influence of propaganda while living in the west?
Agreed regarding the negative elements of American exceptionalism. But people in the US have a spectrum of views and the US has had a measure of dynamism in terms of social attitudes. The same cannot be said about the overwhelming majority of russians.
Vladimir Kara-Murza: Buryats Find It Easier to Kill Ukrainians
Julia Khazagaeva takes issue with Vladimir Kara-Murza's claim that Russia's ethnic minorities find it easier to kill Ukrainians than ethnic Russians do.The Russian Reader
Their state of being unable to handle their neighbour is that they are winning incredibly slowly.
They don't have the ability to conquer anyone else, but that's not the only hot conflict that there can be. Drone attacks? Border skirmishes? Missiles "getting lost"?
Europe has also not successfully increased its military production to cope with the increased threat, so much of Europe's ability to fight back is tied up in Ukraine
Their state of being unable to handle their neighbour is that they are winning incredibly slowly.
And it's only cost them one point one million casualties so far.
Bleeding out is an idiotic way to "win incredibly slowly".
But I suppose the ends justify the means. In this case, ends refers to territory captured and held, and domestic oil production.
Winning incredibly slowly. LMAO
"I am bleeding, making me the victor."
"I must apologize for Wimp Lo, he is an idiot. We have purposefuly trained him wrong, as a joke."
All casualties that Putin doesn't give a shit about, so why is that important, really? There may come a point where Russia's high casualty rate has significant domestic impact, but it is not yet. With control of the media, Putin is able to paint a much rosier picture at home, and when his military's ranks are swollen with convicts and North Koreans, the actual losses are of lower impact to begin with.
To put it another way: if Russia is currently losing, what would you call a state in which Russia stops advancing? What would you call a state in which Ukraine were able to take back - and then hold - territory?
People who talk shit about how Russia is losing, is idiotic and so on, I think still have the mentality most people did in the first months of the invasion, when Russia had just been shown to be a complete paper tiger relative to prior expectations. A war they were supposed to win in a few days is still going, and they haven't won it yet - a terrible humiliation for Russia. But the fact that they suffered a terrible humiliation, were ridiculously less powerful than most people believed, doesn't mean they're losing. "Slowly gaining territory at great cost" is not losing. Achieving a victory for Ukraine means a change from the current state of affairs; they need more weapons and support than they are currently receiving.
You haven't actually disagreed with any of the potential things I pointed at Russia being able to do, or at Europe's slow rearmament. Those were the substantive things.
All casualties that Putin doesn't give a shit about, so why is that important, really?
The Russians should put you in charge of signing up new recruits. LMAO
There may come a point where Russia's high casualty rate has significant domestic impact, but it is not yet.
Definitely put you in charge of the enlistment PR team. LMAO
With control of the media, Putin is able to paint a much rosier picture at home, and when his military's ranks are swollen with convicts and North Koreans, the actual losses are of lower impact to begin with.
That explains all the state controlled media encouraging all Russians to take lots of road trips. LMAO
To put it another way: if Russia is currently losing, what would you call a state in which Russia stops advancing? What would you call a state in which Ukraine were able to take back - and then hold - territory?People who talk shit about how Russia is losing, is idiotic and so on, I think still have the mentality most people did in the first months of the invasion, when Russia had just been shown to be a complete paper tiger relative to prior expectations. A war they were supposed to win in a few days is still going, and they haven't won it yet - a terrible humiliation for Russia.
At least you've correctly identified Russia's terrible humiliation. Special Military Operation. LMAO
But the fact that they suffered a terrible humiliation, were ridiculously less powerful than most people believed, doesn't mean they're losing.
Make that your first recruiting slogan. LMAO
"Slowly gaining territory at great cost" is not losing.
To learn more, contact your local Recriting Officer. LMAO
Achieving a victory for Ukraine means a change from the current state of affairs; they need more weapons and support than they are currently receiving.
Yeah, they've only been able to kill a smidgen over a million Russians with their meager resources. Thankfully, the Russians haven't sustained any serious equipment losses. LMAO
You haven't actually disagreed with any of the potential things I pointed at Russia being able to do, or at Europe's slow rearmament.
Sorry, I wasn't able to see any of your points through the field of one point one million sunflowers. LMAO
Those were the substantive things.
Of course they were. LMAO
Make that your first recruiting slogan. LMAO
Most of your reply is just continuing down this nonsensical fantasy. Are you ok?
You still haven't replied to the points about European preparedness potential future russian aggression, and have now to top it all conflated casualties and deaths.
Lmao indeed. But I'm guessing you won't be laughing the next time a cargo ship registered conveniently in the Caribbean "accidentally" causes damage to Western interests. Will you then connect your complacency to what's happening?
You still haven't replied to the points about European preparedness potential future russian aggression, and have now to top it all conflated casualties and deaths.Lmao indeed.
Russians have treachery going for them, and that's about it. As far as military might is concerned, you can watch Russian soldiers, pilots, operators, drivers, vehicles explode in Ukraine. Up close and personal footage.
But I'm guessing you won't be laughing the next time a cargo ship registered conveniently in the Caribbean "accidentally" causes damage to Western interests. Will you then connect your complacency to what's happening?
Sabotage and treachery. This is what you do when you don't have the Might. Whatever master plan you're trying to spell out is an increasingly lame Hail Mary. If you want an accurate assessment of what they're capable of militarily, land, air, or sea, watch them bleed during the Special Military Operation.
Cool! And since "sabotage and treachery" are perfectly capable of dealing great damage to Ukraine and other European nations alike, we should not be gung ho about Russia.
Conversely, we can watch them hemorrhage abroad, while all their domestic refineries burn.
Russia is using WWII equipment, Ukraine recently retook a big piece of land, Russia's economy is on the brink of collapse, opposition of the regime grows bolder day by day.
This does not seem like a winning power to me.
Russia is using WWII equipment
Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. The outcome is what matters, though.
Ukraine recently retook a big piece of land
I don't think this is true, and in any case, Russia is still advancing consistently. Go on DeepStateMAP and check the past few months (not every day - just once per month) and you will get the picture: no major breakthroughs, but grinding advancement.
Russia’s economy is on the brink of collapse
It's been massively weakened by sanctions but a quick google for russian economy "brink of collapse"
reveals as many articles predicting this as dispelling the predictions going back at least two years.
Gaining ground isn't the same thing as winning, a lesson that the Russians should be all too familiar with, as it's how they beat the Germans in WW2 (though a more accurate point of comparison would be Germany's failure against the West in WW1; they held significant ground in France at the time of their surrender. It wasn't that their lines collapsed or that they were outmanoeuvred on the battlefield; it was their economy that could no longer bear the weight of the war). It is, in fact, an extremely effective strategy to slowly cede ground at a cost that is too high for your aggressor to bear, and that's exactly what Ukraine is doing to Russia. This doesn't mean Ukraine is guaranteed to win, but their success largely depends on the continued support of their allies in Europe and North America. Whereas Russia has no real clear path to success at this point.
Russian doctrine relies on punching a hole, moving and exploiting that gap to create a salient and outmanoeuvre your enemy. Ukraine has gotten too good at entrenching, and is creating deeply layered defences that the Russians have no way to break through in a decisive fashion, and Ukraine is being extremely careful with it's manpower, whereas Russian continues to waste theirs on pointless attacks and dispersed operations. We're seeing constant footage and reports of Russian sections consisting of only 2-4 men attacking over open ground with no vehicle support, and getting picked off as they come in by Ukrainian machine gun positions and FPVs. The Russian economy is grinding to a halt under the weight of the war; they held out a lot longer in the face of sanctions than anyone in the West predicted, but the choices they made early on to keep the economy flowing are now turning into major pain points (massive interest rate hikes to control inflation now turning into a serious lack of investment and consumer spending, dumped foreign currency reserves used to float the rouble now leaving them with no fallback for the hard times ahead, etc). Ukraine has developed new long range attack drones that can strike deep into Russia, opening up all of their industry, and particularly their oil refining capabilities, to attack. Russia is so big that they simply cannot defend all of it from aerial attack, and Ukraine's intel is good enough that they can continually shift their focus to wherever Russia isn't defending.
This is why Putin is eager to talk peace now. He would love to, as you describe, stop with their current gains. That would actually constitute a win. The longer this goes on for, the worse it gets for Russia, while Ukraine can continue to hold out for as long as we continue to stand with them and keep them supplied. Their manpower losses are serious, but manageable if they continue with their current strategies, and while Russia continues to hammer their infrastructure, Ukraine has superior - and more efficient - air defence and most of their manufacturing happens outside of the country where Russia can't hit it.
Russian doctrine relies on punching a hole, moving and exploiting that gap to create a salient and outmanoeuvre your enemy.
According to whom?
According to the actual battlefield, Russian doctrine relies on throwing wave after wave of poorly trained criminals and shanghaied DPR/LPR citizens into the machine guns, artillery and drones of the Ukrainians.
Don't get me wrong, there are massive weaknesses, and we may see Ukraine exploit them. But we aren't seeing that translate to battlefield success. Putin hasn't shown any eagerness to talk peace; only the same old "peace" meaning capitulation. He's been keen on that since the beginning.
According to whom?
Funnily enough, experts on Russian battlefield doctrine. The ones I talked to all work in the CAF, but you're welcome to search up your own sources on the subject. This guy was the commander of the US armed forces in Europe from 2014 to 2017, so I'd say he probably knows his stuff, and his analysis aligns with that of the experts I've spoken with;
If you're trying to understand the disconnect between their doctrine and what's actually playing out on the battlefield, it's surprisingly simple really. This is what happens when you have an inflexible command structure that relies exclusively on doctrine and rigid adherence to chain of command (eg, individual soldiers are basically just machines to operated by their superiors), mixed with a huge amount of institutional corruption and an unwillingness to report the basic facts of the situation on the ground because it's politically unfavourable to admit that things aren't going to plan. The doctrine says "Smash a hole" so they try, and fail, repeatedly to smash that hole. That leads to waves of men being thrown at targets to no effect because if you haven't smashed the hole you can't move on to step two, so you just keep on repeating step one.
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The Russian thirst for poorly trained conscripts cannot be adequately explained by corruption and poor reporting obscuring what's actually happening. At some point you have to accept the possibility that Putin knows what's happening and is ok with it.
Sure, it's possible that Russia hasn't changed its doctrine in 3 years, but it seems unlikely. Old doctrine is obsolete on a battlefield where all movements are immediately observed and armoured vehicles are more vulnerable due to a proliferation of anti tank weapons.
But throwing cannon fodder at the guns to reveal where they are, then shooting them with something else - that never stops working as long as you have cannon fodder.
I wonder if we're just arguing over whether this strategy is something deserving of praise, with you thinking that, since I characterise the balance favouring Russia, I think this is strategic genius? In case of that, I don't; it's stupid and wasteful. But it's also working in the sense that it's gradually pushing Ukraine back.
The Russian thirst for poorly trained conscripts cannot be adequately explained by corruption and poor reporting obscuring what's actually happening.
I'm really not sure why you feel this needs any further explanation. I've already covered how their doctrine is failing them, and it's resulting in troops being pushed into the meat grinder instead. If you're confused on some particular point, maybe try asking questions instead.
But throwing cannon fodder at the guns to reveal where they are, then shooting them with something else - that never stops working as long as you have cannon fodder.
75% of battlefield kills in Ukraine are made by explosive equipped FPV suicide drones. These can attack from any position and angle, and can loiter in an area for a long time, so the notion that they're revealing the position of enemy guns with these attacks does not hold up to the reality on the battlefield. It may be the belief of some of the commanders that that's what they're doing, but if so, they're wrong.
But it's also working in the sense that it's gradually pushing Ukraine back.
I covered this in my first reply in this conversation. If you're going to repeat arguments that I've already countered, without offering any additional counterargument or support for your claim, then I might as well try to have a debate about quantum physics with a toddler.
I covered this in my first reply in this conversation.
What you specifically said was "It is, in fact, an extremely effective strategy to slowly cede ground at a cost that is too high for your aggressor to bear" but then ignored the fact that Russia seems extremely willing to bear the cost it is paying.
75% of battlefield kills in Ukraine are made by explosive equipped FPV suicide drones.
Most FPV drone kills are not first strikes against moving troops. They are more often used to to prevent recovery of a disabled vehicle or to finish off someone who's wounded. There is a first-hand account of this here but if you're following the war and think back to videos you've seen of FPV kills you'll probably recognise this.
I’m really not sure why you feel this needs any further explanation.
Think of it this way then: if you can explain a phenomenon by a potential adversary as either a conscious choice or a blunder, attributing it to a blunder is risky, because you start to assume that party is incompetent.
Don't forget the context: I replied to a comment saying that Russia could never threaten another country because it was struggling so much in Ukraine. I don't mean that it's "slowly winning" to mean, "I am very confident that, without other changes, Russia will win, but it will just take many years." I mean that Russia is advancing, able to maintain an effective fighting force and remains a real threat.
There are very real reasons to think that Ukraine's war against Russia's oil economy will eventually provide the pressure away from the frontline that forces Russia to capitulate. But we can't be at all confident of this; economic collapse has, as I mentioned before, been repeatedly predicted and has not yet come to pass. That doesn't mean it won't, but it means that confidence about Russia's inability to threaten violence against other states is dangerously misplaced.
Ukraine's economy is only able to maintain its effort due to massive support from its allies. But Russia has powerful allies too: it would be a foreign policy loss for China if Russia fails; China wants the same "spheres of influence" thinking that Putin does (and Trump does) to prevail internationally.
If you want to say that Russia's slow battlefield progress is of little importance to the war in Ukraine I'd be inclined to agree with you, but if you want to stand by the original comment that Russia's struggles in Ukraine indicate its threats must be toothless I hope I've explained why I disagree.
I Fought in Ukraine and Here’s Why FPV Drones Kind of Suck
In 2024 and 2025, I served for six months as an international volunteer on a first-person view attack drone team in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. My teamJakub Jajcay (War on the Rocks)
Thank you for clarifying. I think I have a better grasp of your argument now.
First, I'll try to offer a clarification of my own; when I talk about Russia's preference for rapid breakthrough operations, I've been using the term "doctrine" very specifically. What you're describing is not doctrine, but strategy. Doctrine is neither strategy, nor tactics, but it informs and guides both. I don't disagree that the current Russian strategy is one of disposable conscript assaults, but I suspect that strategy largely arises from the failures of their doctrine in the face of the realities of the conflict, and is not as deliberate a choice as you seem to think. I don't think there's really a way for either of us to be proven right here, as we'd need to be in the room with the Russian generals to say for sure.
Most FPV drone kills are not first strikes against moving troops. They are more often used to to prevent recovery of a disabled vehicle or to finish off someone who’s wounded.
I've read the linked account previously. It's an excellent and informative read, but it's value is deeply limited. Unfortunately, I can't provide many of the countervailing sources that I have access to, because I'm working from direct conversations with people with significant expertise and first hand knowledge, as opposed to documentary sources. I get that that's a claim anyone could make, and I'll freely acknowledge that I have no way to back it up. Trust me or don't, your call. But basically Jakub is speaking from a very limited, anecdotal view of the battlefield. His account may well be true for where he was stationed and what he was doing, but the broader statistics have shown that FPV drones have become the primary source of battlefield casualties, on both sides. This doesn't mean they're the primary mode of attack, per se, but they are the mode that is most consistent in creating casualties. This article from Kyiv Post covers it well, and while I don't consider them an unbiased source, the statistics cited actually come directly from the Russian MOD, and I can't see any value to them in lying about this; overstating the effectiveness of Ukraine's drones would, if anything, make Russia look worse here. According to Russian figures only 20% of battlefield casualties are caused by artillery, and only 4% by small arms. This pretty directly contradicts the claims Jakub makes in his account. I think it also largely speaks to how the war has more or less become a stalemate. Attacks from both sides are limited; even the Russian "human waves" aren't so much waves as very small groups of soldiers, as Gen. Ben Hodges describes in the video I linked earlier.
Don’t forget the context: I replied to a comment saying that Russia could never threaten another country because it was struggling so much in Ukraine. I don’t mean that it’s “slowly winning” to mean, “I am very confident that, without other changes, Russia will win, but it will just take many years.” I mean that Russia is advancing, able to maintain an effective fighting force and remains a real threat.
OK, so more broadly here, I think there's actually a lot we agree on. Yes, it would be deeply foolish to see Russia as a paper tiger, and yes, regardless of where we differ on Russia's state of play in Ukraine, the fact remains that they are certainly able to maintain an effective fighting force outside of that conflict, and would absolutely be able to prosecute additional limited conflicts (we'll get to that in a moment) while maintaining their position in Ukraine. But there are reasons for that that I think undermine some of your argument.
Basically, the problem for Russia is that they're not really able to fully commit to the war in Ukraine. This isn't a "total war" for them, and Putin lacks the ability to convince the Russian public that it should be treated as one. That's a key difference between Russia and Ukraine right now. The Ukrainian people will accept significant hardship if it means victory, because victory is the only path to survival. But for Russia, this war is Putin's nation building project, and maybe a chance to flex a bit and show off their prowess on the world stage. The average Russian isn't ideologically committed to the conflict, and isn't about to accept, say, food rationing in order to win this fight. Thus, while it's true that a significant portion of Russia's overall military capability remains at their disposal, that's because it is politically untenable for them to use it. Even their apparently endless manpower isn't truly endless; conscription waves come at a significant cost, both in terms of political capital (Russian elections may be a fraud, but dictators still only rule because people allow them to, as many kings and tyrants have learned throughout history; Putin is a keen student of history and painfully aware of this fact), and in terms of the economic impact of sending a generation of young men to die in a war instead of allowing them to contribute to your workforce. These costs are growing unsustainable for Russia, and as Ukraine's strikes on their gas refining capabilities continue to bite that will only grow worse.
While I agree that Russia could, in theory, commit significant resources to a wider conflict, there would need to be a reason for them to do so. This is why I say that Russia would have the ability to prosecute additional limited conflicts. That rules out almost every potential target they have at present; an invasion of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Finland, Poland, Turkey, or Japan would be a total war with all of NATO, and that's a fight that they would lose. Without the ability to conjure up some existential threat that would make such a war seem completely necessary to the Russian people, there's simply no way for Putin to move in that direction without facing down a full scale public revolt. Either in the short term or the long term it would guarantee the collapse of their government, either because NATO marches on Moscow or their own people do. I'm not saying this lightly; I have friends and loved ones who would likely be the very first in the line of fire if Putin did decide to open up a broader conflict. But I simply do not see a realistic version of events where a broader war with NATO is something that Putin can risk.
Yeah we're not actually that far apart, if at all 😀
The only way they're going to engage in violence anyone else is if they can be confident that it won't incur a response on the order of a NATO counterattack (or even much less). In the mainstream media this is often where the discussion stops, but it's worth considering how Russia and the West are already engaging in actions that could be seen as acts of war: cyber-attacks, airspace incursions from Russia; boarding ships (and presumably also cyber-attacks and airspace incursions our media just doesn't talk about) from the West. There are levels of aggression that will not be met with such a full-throated response, and Russia uses those acts to attempt to punish the West for its support of Ukraine already.
The scope exists there for more escalation, and that is where vigilance must be directed.
No argument on any of those points, I think you nailed it. My concern however is that we're seeing a lot of stuff in the media talking about Russia's readiness for another conventional war, and while that assessment is accurate, it needs much better framing than it's currently getting. When Zelensky is running around saying that Russia is gearing up for another invasion, that's just blatant bullshit. I get it, he needs to fearmonger to keep the weapons to Ukraine flowing, and I respect the hustle, but I worry that people are being worked up into this fear of Russian "escalation" that's going to actually lead to more people pushing for appeasement out of fear of what Russia can do.
Yes, they're not a paper tiger, and if pushed into a conflict with NATO, they could certainly make that conflict a brutal and bloody one (especially if the US sat it out), but that's not the same thing as "Putin will nuke the world if we so much as look at him funny", which is the message that people are getting from the current discussions around Russia's military capabilities. There needs to a better, more informed, more nuanced conversation about the realities of Russia's ability to prosecute a wider scale war.
And I think it is important to discuss the fact that Russia is currently losing this war, despite what their gradual battlefield progress would suggest. That matters because we need the average member of the public to understand that an end is in sight. Our continued support can see Ukraine through this, and there is a version of events where Russia is forced to capitulate and agree to at least somewhat neutral terms for an armistice. No, Ukraine is never going to be rolling tanks into Moscow, but that's not the only version of victory possible. We need people to understand that in order to justify the resources we're supplying to Ukraine (resources that are, it must be emphasised, currently allowing us to tie up and potentially defeat a major threat at a fraction of the cost of a conventional war).
This is why Putin is eager to talk peace now.
Putin's definition of peace is that the aggressor is rewarded and the international community hands Russia what it couldn't win by force.
Ukraine has developed new long range attack drones that can strike deep into Russia, opening up all of their industry, and particularly their oil refining capabilities, to attack. Russia is so big that they simply cannot defend all of it from aerial attack, and Ukraine’s intel is good enough that they can continually shift their focus to wherever Russia isn’t defending.
It is especially delicious how Russia's greatest advantage in this war - their size relative to Ukraine, hence significantly higher manpower and resources than Ukraine, as well as territorial depth that let them have important military facilities beyond the range of Ukraine, has been turned by Ukraine into one of Russia's worst strategical weaknesses.
Anywhere in Ukraine can be hit by Russia, even with shitty shit drones like Shaheed, so Ukranians adapted, plus comparativelly to Russia their's is a smaller country hence with fewer sites of strategical value, which means having enough AA to take down most of Russia's missiles and long-range drones is actually possible, which is why Russia's ever larger mass attacks of late have had so much less effect than smaller attacks did at the start of the Invasion.
Meanwhile Russia's strategically important infrastructure is all over a large country, so they would have to deploy AA to defend every individual site and they don't have enough of the kind of AA that can successfully deal with low-flying drones (it doesn't matter how good their coverage with longer range systems like the S-500 is when that weapon system is not suitable to deal with Cessna-152s converted into drones flying at low altitude plus each missile costs many times more than each of those drones).
In this, Ukraine's strategy is masterful, IMHO.
Also, the countries you label as unfriendly are peaceful countries who are only 'unfriendly' to Russia because they worry about Russian imperialist expansion, and Russia's aggression habit.
But these are kilometers here and there, where Ukraine rather keeps forces alive than fighting for it.
Russia is not winning massive amounts of territory, their economy will crash once the war is over etc.
Are you for real right now?
Answer me these questions: Is Russia INVADING Ukraine? If so, do they succesfully hold any Ukrainian land? Then they're winning. Even if they only hold and keep east+Crimea, that means they won and gained territory. How does this not compute to some of you?
Ok so what you are telling me is that a country which invades another is still winning even if their army is in full retreat, as long as they remain in the other without giving up?
Because that doesn't make any sense.
That is not accurate to the situation in Ukraine.
Since the peak of the full scale invasion began in 2022, Russia has lost control of about 50 000 km2 of Ukrainian territory.
Entire fronts have been pushed back out of Ukraine.
So while the scale is still on Russias side, the war is going badly for them.
Their state of being unable to handle their neighbour is that they are winning incredibly slowly.
They're winning so slowly that they've advanced essentially nowhere after their intial gains three years ago.
Their foreign trade is down the shitter since their ability to export fossil fuels has been badly degraded, and if they run out of money before they win, they're fucked.
Do you think this means that German intelligence is wrong here?
"Essentially nowhere" has added up to quite a lot over the last three years since the major successful counteroffensive by Ukraine.
Ready to fuck around. Not ready to find out.
Threatening and posturing to destabilize Europe and NATO, while going heavily on grey zone warfare and divisive misinformation campaigns. At the top, should not want any kinetic warfare against NATO, but rhetoric, 'yes' men, and arrogance may make some think they can and should.
Saddest part is his grand strategy is literally open source, i.e. "Foundations of Geopolitics", written by a Russian ultra nationalist, taught in Russian military academy's. Main points are weakening NATO and US by supporting internal strife and divisions, allowing Russia to take back its "land" and sphere of influence.
Top many willing useful idiots for them to use. . .
So: divide and rule, and do as much imperialism as they can get away with.
Guy must be some kinda fuckin' genius.
Yeah, but that's kind of what they're already doing, in which case it's not news. He's implying they have some nebulous new kind of readiness.
Maybe they do, maybe he's just trying to get everyone on board with rearming. Which I guess is a good idea in any case.
Also and as somebody else pointed out, if makes sense for him to try and scare European nations so that they refrain from sending as many weapons and ammo to Ukraine because of thinking they might need those to defend themselves from Russia.
So a sabble-rattling discourse and even the recent air-space intrusions by Russian military planes are cheap ways of trying to get the strategical gain of Ukraine receiving fewer weapons from the rest of Europe and even if those things fail he loses nothing from doing them (at this point, he's hardly going to get in a worst situation than he already put himself in).
It makes absolute sense to pursue a strategy where at best you gain something and at worst you lose nothing.
Now, if the response to the Russian intrusion in European airspace had been for European nations to set up and enforce a no fly for Russia inside Ukraine, that would've definitelly been a loss for him (at the very least the rest of Europe would protect Western Ukraine from Russian drones and air assets, freeing Ukranian assets to be used elsewhere), but the leaderships of European nations have yet to show a willingness or capability to act decisivelly like that as a group: even the help with weapons and ammo took ages to get going properly, was riddled with "red lines" (like "no tanks", then "no jets", then "no long range cruise missiles" and who could forget the whole "can't be used against Russian territory" artificial limitation) and there was a lot of feet-dragging, especially from Germany) so actual direct intervention even if only with air assets doesn't seem likely as response to "mere" Russian air space intrusions and unconventional warfare that can be denied (cyber attacks, election interference, support for extreme political forces, cutting of undersea cables and so on).
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Excellent, I'm basically a taller Napoleon now. I just need a million more or so.
^(Yes,^ ^I^ ^know^ ^he^ ^was^ ^average^ ^for^ ^the^ ^time)^
They still have their usual 'wunderwaffle' to roll out - Waves of Humans and zero care for human lives.
Russia is as dangerous now as Japan was in WW2.
Japan had an aircraft carrier fleet rivaling the US, better carrier fighter planes than the US, and were occupying a lot of China, who was a peer opponent. It also took a US-USSR alliance to take them down.
Russia on the other hand is able to wreak a lot of havoc, and is also good on some technological fronts, like drone warfare, espionage and ballistic missiles, but it has recently lost a lot of its fleet against an opponent with no navy, and is stuck in trench warfare with equipment that in WWII would be the equivalent of muskets.
This whole posturing is because Russia ran out of easily recruitable people, and needs internal justification to start throwing in conscripts as well.
Oh, BTW it's "Wunderwaffe", if you want a "Wunderwaffle", go to Brussels, they put strawberries and cream on it so high it won't fit in your mouth.
Oh, BTW it's "Wunderwaffe", if you want a "Wunderwaffle", go to Brussels, they put strawberries and cream on it so high it won't fit in your mouth.
Oh hell yeah. I know where I'm going for breakfast in the morning.
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Putin is testing for years how far he can go. He uses salami tactics on NATO for ages.
A bit of sabotage here, planes and drones flying in or over NATO territory, ghost ships and shadow fleets doing crimes, disturbing GPS, etc, etc, etc.
I don't think they work anymore. I would have thought he would have used a small one by now especially after Ukraine made advances into Russian territory.
But what the fuck do I know, I'm just a guy front of a monitor speculating on things I'm not qualified to speculate on.
We've been hearing this for years.
I am ready to have a hot confrontation with a pack of rabid hyenas.
....actually, that didn't sound right.
you know what? I'll just leave.
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Germans say Russia plans to invade any day, likely tomorrow.
uh huh, Germany to annex poland when?
lots of fucking cretins in this thread smdh
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Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50900195
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Robotics has catapulted Beijing into a dominant position in many industries“It’s the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen,” said Ford’s chief executive about his recent trip to China.
“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley warned in July.
Andrew Forrest, the Australian billionaire behind mining giant Fortescue – which is investing massively in green energy – says his trips to China convinced him to abandon his company’s attempts to manufacture electric vehicle powertrains in-house.
Other executives describe vast, “dark factories” where robots do so much of the work alone that there is no need to even leave the lights on for humans.
“We visited a dark factory producing some astronomical number of mobile phones,” recalls Greg Jackson, the boss of British energy supplier Octopus.
In Britain, Shenzhen-based BYD multiplied its September sales by a factor of 10 this year – overtaking far more established brands such as Mini, Renault and Land Rover.
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A few weeks ago there was a report on some US VC investors who made a similar trip to China and were then 'terrified' ... Now this. Is it somewhat similar to the influencer trips to Xinjiang that then tell the world that the genocide of Uyghurs is not true?
How much do you see in such PR trips? Go a bit upstream the value chain to get the full picture ...
Chinese migrant workers drive Indonesia’s nickel industry for EVs - Rest of World
Over 30,000 Chinese workers travel to Indonesia’s remote islands to work in nickel smelters, fueling the global EV transition while facing dangerous conditions.Kate Bubacz (Rest of World)
Here is practically the same article, posted less than three weeks ago. It's the same narrative posted by the same user.
Ah see now you’re just being straight up dishonest now. It’s trivial for anyone to check your post history and see that this isn’t true.
Up til now I’d given you the benefit of the doubt in assuming you were just a slight oddball with an axe to grind for personal reasons, but now it’s clear this is a troll farm account. On the block list you go.
Is it somewhat similar to the influencer trips to Xinjiang that then tell the world that the genocide of Uyghurs is not true?
Am not an influencer, have been to Urumqi, should be going back in like a month or so.
Maybe it's the people who have never been there and whose job requires them to create/amplify hostile evidence whom are lying, and not every person who travels to Xinjiang.
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“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley warned in July.
If you want to see what the Chinese car market is like, check out Wheelsboy. The features that are just standard in Chinese cars are crazy.
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I'm suspicious of an article about advanced robotics without any description or depiction of said robots. Humanoid robots are for advertising brochures. They're impractical for almost everything.
This is some anecdote from executives jotted down by journalists who never got near these factories.
Not saying its fake, just lazy and incurious journalism.
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The telegraph is a low-quality right-wing rag in the UK that frames everything with a hint of xenophobia. I'd say it's a pretty poor source for "world news". Definitely take it with a large dose of salt.
Edit: MBFC rating is "mixed" with right-wing bias
Daily Telegraph (UK) - Bias and Credibility - Media Bias/Fact Check
RIGHT BIAS These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation.Media Bias Fact Check
The whole "dark factory" thing was invented by the Japanese, decades ago, ttbomk.
Huge factory, no lights on in it, simply because there weren't any humans in it.
Patrols for surprise-errors/mistakes/malfunctions were done by flashlight.
Japanese-management got things down to a few cosmetic-blemishes per million units back in the VCR days.
Their quality-control was 2nd to none.
That other Asian industries can learn from the Japanese, in ways that our culture prohibits us from doing, shouldn't be surprising.
All the people who insist that the only thing that China produces is shit-quality "Chinesium", iPhones were produced in China for years ( no idea if they still are, & don't care ) and those things were far tighter quality than anything I've ever built, or than anything ANY of the North Americans I've worked-with have ever built.
China produces a spectrum, ranging from shit-quality to stunning-quality.
Same as we do.
Ideological "glasses" blind us, they don't "help" us see what's actually going-on.
& as another already-identified, "robotics" in no way implies humanoid.
Car-manufactories have been using giant robotic-arms for series-spot-welding for .. decades, now?
I'd do all the fuselage-riveting of old-style sheet-aluminum aircraft by robot, if I was a manufacturer of those things:
once you get the programming right, then you don't have "human error" sabotaging your product-integrity.
It's the same at all scales: what we are good-at, isn't what robots are good-at, & either we segregate the work so that we are doing the adaptive/innovative/human-process-centered stuff, & leave all the mechanical-repitition to robots, XOR we're sabotaging our own competitive-ability.
Exactly as the "strategy" of letting the short-term bottom-line now proves, when Asian industries invest strategically, in future-competitive-capability.
Decades-ago there was an example of the US steel-industry: they coasted on their establishment, while Japan invested in more-precision-chemistry & better foundries, then .. after some years, those investments came on-line, & the US steel industry, which couldn't compete with that, just got the US gov't to establish protectionism, to tarriff the Japanese steel industry, to protect the anti-strategic US companies.
( this is from one of the strategic-management textbooks of Blackwell: it's literally a reference-text case )
Accountability won't ever be tolerated by opportunistic-authority, including industry-incumbents, therefore "protectionism" damages the market to protect the anti-strategy of the incumbent players at the cost of our world's finite-opportunity.
That is normal: S. O. P.
Different cultures value different things.
Some people value making things right, whereas other people value corrupting everything that they can, as much as they can, for sake of how much the "get away with" ( the word "shoddy" is actually the real name of a guy who established that paradigm in the US )
We wouldn't invest in what Asia's invested-in: why should we have any ability to compete?
That is our "strategy".
And when we are economically-butchered by our "strategy", then .. then the oligarchs will simply protect themselves, & exploit the then-current situation, same as now.
Nothing changes, fundamentally..
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Yeah, but WE pay, the oligarchs, in their privilege-bubbles, don't.
That's why they're into en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelera… , aka torch-us-so-they-get-golden-rulership .. style of driving our lobbied/bribed "governments".
WHEN one ideologically-rejects that souls have any future-Eternity, any "reaping of what they have sown", as the root-guru of the Christians rendered the concept "karma",
THEN torching-our-entire-future-for-narcissistic-momentary-pleasure is logical , rightttt?
Political-systems invariably divorce authority from accountability, and that itself proves political-systems unfit for ruling our world.
Responsibilityarchy's the only survivable alternative.
Human-habit opposes responsibilityarchy, with its automatic-accountability mechanisms, more-fundamentally than it opposes ideology-rule, by far.
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Sometimes oligarchs get destroyed by supporting fascism.
Germany
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A list of oligarchs and Putin critics' suspicious deaths since war in Ukraine began
A growing number of high-profile Russians have died under strange circumstances ever since President Vladimir Putin came to power.Aleksandar Brezar (Euronews.com)
USA : "stop science, let's go back to religion !"
China : "hold my beer 🤣"
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Dealing with surplus humans has never been a problem for communist countries. Just stop allocating them food for 2 months.
Not sure if China is that sort of a communist country these days though, but it sure retained the authoritarian parts.
Still just too many people for the amount of good paying jobs.
Like most developed countries with youth unemployment, there's work to be done, but most of it doesn't pay a livable wage.
It appears those are specifically problems China is on the trajectory of solving/improving for itself.
The American CEOs going to China are returning to find those issues getting worse everyday with no solution in sight.
It felt a bit implied and would seem really contrived to reassure the reader China has those problems.
dismiss the existential threat of wealth inequality.
Wealth inequality is worse in the US than in China.
Wealth inequality is worse in the US than in China.
Could be, that data for wealth isn't easily available for both countries.
Income inequality is about the same in USA and China though, Gini coefficient around 0.41 in both countries. Most figures put China slightly more inequal than USA for income.
The US as a whole has been stripped bare by private equity and these conservative fat fuck neck beards are so scared of brown people that they are willingly giving the country away.
That and they can't understand that the world is leaving the US behind.
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you mean the same executives that are currently trying their best to circumvent democracy in their countries of origin?
the same ones that are actively demonstrating their disdain for the economies that helped them grow to the massive sizes they are today?
the very same people who have been warning their employees of the bad Chinese companies that manufacture shitty products but secretly began moving operations overseas decades ago?
those guys?
totally trustworthy!
Ceos discovering what investing profits into the business and communities can do instead of pocketing every goddamn cent for the investors.
Whaaat you mean just aiming for metrics to increase stock prices is not actually creating value? YOU CAN MAKE MORE MONEY BY CREATING VALUE????
One computer per year per person is way way too many.
And cars barely need to exist at all, compared to the number of cars actually in existence.
Vans, trucks, trains, and buses are of course a different story.
One computer per year per person is way way too many.
It's on you if you're buying them at that rate.
“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,”
Which is exactly why Americans aren't allowed to have them.
We hate competition.
Worked for a chinese company and here to tell you- that is their approach, always has been.
Wouldn't be surprised if everything the "western execs" saw was a charade put on especially for them that falls apart as easily as Elon's cybertrucks on closer inspection. Don't believe everything you see at an expo or read in The Telegraph.
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flatbield
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Señor Mono
in reply to flatbield • • •cyborganism
in reply to Señor Mono • • •Señor Mono
in reply to cyborganism • • •0_o7
in reply to Señor Mono • • •You can strip ISOs of some bloat but you cannot strip M$ out of it
, tho. And there's always a chance an update adds it back in.
I had outlook appear back on one of my laptops after an update. I had removed it ages ago. Some services do the same.
So, are you going to limit updates too? That'll make it vulnerable.
My point is, it's just going to be cat and mouse game with "cleaning or stripping" Windows.
Señor Mono
in reply to 0_o7 • • •See, I run a stripped Windows for playing games that don’t run under linux. I update it regularly and nothing intrusive was re-added by updates.
The other systems I use are linux and macOS, with each OS having its purpose.
In acknowledge that Linux is not intrusive and that you have to have PiHoles and other DNS sinkholes for a basic protection, which is hard for regular people. But in the end you have to look at peoples needs and if somebody insists he needs Windows, and you are knowledgeable in IT stuff, make it as secure and clutter free as possible.
adarza
in reply to Señor Mono • • •mullvad's free dns. free for all, not just their subscribers. encrypted doh or dot only. a basic ad and malware blocking dns sinkhole is a fairly simple configuration away if your os supports it (win11 and android do.. those are what i've set it up on for others so far).
mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-h…
DNS over HTTPS and DNS over TLS
Mullvad VPNmonovergent
in reply to Señor Mono • • •cronenthal
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Whitebrow
in reply to cronenthal • • •Creosm
in reply to cronenthal • • •Feydaikin
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I had already dabbled in Linux on and off years back. I already wanted to switch, but I'm a moron at computer stuff, so Linux was always a bit out of reach. Too much to learn and memorize for the basic things I needed it for. (addendum: We're talking about 25 years ago)
But Win 10 annoyed the piss out of me. Like, to the point of breaking my laptop in a fit of explosive anger. I'm not usually a "throw-the-controller" kind of guy. But that shit got to me.
So around the time Win 11 was first announced, I decided to give Linux yet another shot. And lo and behold, I found Mint. Everything was setup and streamlined exactly for a moron like myself. It was literally easier and more straight forward than Windows.
And with a little bit of reading and copy/pasting commands smarter people than myself have written around the internet, pretty much any problem I've encountered have been solved within a few minutes.
So I recommend Mint to anyone looking for alternatives to Win 11.
It has been good to me.
And a big Thank You to all the glorious nerds that take the time to not on only make this, but also take the time to help us hapless dummies fix the small problems we encounter in the process of switching.
eatCasserole
in reply to Feydaikin • • •gi1242
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Bo7a
in reply to gi1242 • • •I bet you also have a 4 digit slashdot id!
(This is not an insult. Quite the opposite)
gi1242
in reply to Bo7a • • •HairyHarry
in reply to theorangeninja • • •melroy likes this.
melroy
in reply to HairyHarry • • •Matt
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Einar
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Moved family mostly to Zorin. I stay with Tumbleweed.
Keeping Windows on dual boot for some edge cases. For the app or two that doesn't run with Linux I keep Windows in a virtual machine (which sadly I need once or twice a day).
95% of my daily business runs on Linux.
Now I wish my phone would do that too.
dubyakay
in reply to Einar • • •Einar
in reply to dubyakay • • •Work. Sadly Linux cannot run most Windows Store apps.
And there's some niche software that runs, but crashes too much for my liking. So unfortunately in these cases: Windows.
dubyakay
in reply to Einar • • •Well damn.
My hatred of Windows got so much in the past two years, when I abandoned ship last year for Linux (using Arch btw), I was ready to ditch software that was not available native, without even bothering with trying to run them through Wine. In the end I had to abandon three of my absolute favourite software, totalcmd, notepad++ and foobar2000. Luckily I was able to replace them with nearly similar quality equivalents in Krusader, Kate and DeaDBeeF. Bit less polished, but very configurable.
My work requires me to have a windows based laptop or a Macbook. They've told me that they've been trying Fedora workstation before, but supposedly the VPN doesn't work on it. I've checked and the VPN expressly supports certain distro, including fedora. But they've simply disabled VPN access from non-win/mac based systems since. I suspect there's either some skill issue or something fishy going on. I know they are monitoring incoming and outgoing files to the system via some tool, which may indeed be not supported on Linux workstations. However the way I use this laptop is simply by accessing it through RDP, and then share files between it and my personal desktop via SMB on LAN, and no one ever complained. I have the lid closed on it all the time. So in essence I just use it like a terminal, and only run work related webportals through a browser on it, like JIRA and shit. Most of my work related to our platform I'm running on my own desktop, because it's significantly faster.
Not sure what I'd do if I still had to run Windows or even VMs for stuff.
KernelTale
in reply to theorangeninja • • •untidy_configuration
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I hosted an endof10.org event at my local public library. Advertised like crazy, posting flyers around town, posting online, etc. I had over 30 USB installers ready to go with Debian 13. I was worried that I was advertising too much and wouldn't have room for everyone.
Only 2 people showed up, and neither were prepared to go through with an install. In a town with well over 70k people and a major university, I expected more.
Now I'm thinking an event like this would only be viable in a major metropolitan area.
In my circle of friends and family, I only knew of one person who was faced with the Windows 10 dilemma, and he chose to purchase new hardware (granted he's nearly 80 years old).
the_q
in reply to untidy_configuration • • •cyborganism
in reply to untidy_configuration • • •PlutoniumAcid
in reply to cyborganism • • •No offense, but this question is what is holding many people back that would otherwise be on the fence or ready to go.
If there were just Mac / Windows / Linux, it would be an easy sell.
But we have Mac / Windows / two million Linux flavors.
It does not matter which one you pick, it is bound to cause questions or issues. And once you've chosen a Linux flavor, someone asks you why you chose that desktop and not foobar9000 instead which everyone knows runs much better on your Linux flavor anyway.
I honestly think that Linux' biggest enemy is Linux. Sure, choice is good, but this is too much. Way too much.
cyborganism
in reply to PlutoniumAcid • • •While I agree with you, my question implied that Debian might not be the right choice for beginners. It's not that easy to use compared to Mint that comes with many quality of life features which makes it the perfect introduction to Linux.
All the important software is there, you have all the necessary codecs to play the most popular media files, you have an easy to use software store with a friendly interface, and you don't have any complicated concepts like immutable or atomic OS.
LeFantome
in reply to PlutoniumAcid • • •I understand your frustration. And I agree that choice is an impediment to adoption.
That said, I am not that comment deserved your reply.
As far as I can tell, the OP was only offering one option—Debian. So your concern does not apply there.
And the next comment did not suggest having more options or adding confusing choices either. I think they were ok with offering just one distro. They just wanted to know why the single recommendation was not Mint.
He was not asking a new user why they chose Debian. He was asking the Linux expert why he chose Debian over Mint. Your comment does not seem to apply.
There is nothing wrong with Debian so I certainly think it is an acceptable choice. That said, Mint probably would offer a less jarring transition than Debian for Windows users. Mint defaults to Cinnamon (very Windows like). Debian defaults to GNOME (a less familiar desktop metaphor). Mint also comes with just a few extra tools and touches that can keep new users off the command line (unless they want to go there).
And if you like Debian, LMDE gives you Debian with the Mint GUI and tools.
Honestly, it seems like a fair question.
If you are only going to give them one option, why not one more likely to work for them? Them being everyday Windows users.
And all that said…I do agree that keeping it simple is the most important thing and offering a single recommendation is the right strategy regardless of which distro you choose to recommend.
spaciouscoder78
in reply to cyborganism • • •Debian is a stable operating system and as user friendly as mint once you get past the installation.
Mint also uses a Ubuntu base but Debian has better quality of packages and is less likely to break.
LMDE is also a good option in this case
cyborganism
in reply to spaciouscoder78 • • •Yeah Debian is stable, but it also doesn't come with an easy to use app store or pre-installed codecs for multimedia.
The installation process isn't exactly user friendly either. And if you plan to use BTRFS with Timeshift for easy snapshot creation, you have to do some pretty technical stuff.
And finally, there's stable and stable. Linux Mint being Ubuntu based is already VERY stable, but you still get fairly recent packages. With Debian you have to wait much longer for the latest software.
spaciouscoder78
in reply to cyborganism • • •Wdym not user friendly? I use Debian everyday and the stuff you were talking about dates back to the bullseye days.
Trixie is a lot more user friendly and even includes the calamares installer now which is a GUI installer that’s similar to mint’s one
It also comes with gnome software and you can enable flatpaks with 2 commands. I don’t see how that’s not user friendly in any way.
Of course nonfree software is a different case but you can always use snap or flatpak for it
frongt
in reply to untidy_configuration • • •Yeah nobody in real life really cares about this. Anyone techie enough has already replaced their system and runs Win11, or has already switched to Linux themselves.
Anyone not techie enough doesn't care and will continue using Win10 (or just follow the Windows nagging and buy a new PC from Best Buy).
eatCasserole
in reply to frongt • • •LeFantome
in reply to untidy_configuration • • •CodenameDarlen
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I'm still using Windows on dual-boot with Arch because of games, that's the only reason. I've Windows 10 LTSC IoT, which is the most debloated version available, plus I ran a debloater script, so the OS is basically raw now, no Microsoft account linked.
Unfortunately Windows still gets more performance, at least on my experience, I've a Laptop 16GB RAM, Hybrid GPU (GeForce 1650 4VRAM + AMD).
I'm still not prepared to give up from this little extra performance just to switch to Linux, it really makes a difference, and I pass the whole day dealing with Linux so at the end of the day I just want to boot into something that just works without major tweaks.
I know it's not Linux fault, but most games are made to run better on Windows. If and when W10 become unusable, I'll switch to 100% Linux without any doubt, it's my last Windows.
altkey (he\him)
in reply to CodenameDarlen • • •Depending on your usage, it may mean years, especially as it's IoT that iirc has longer update cycle.
Microsoft didn't lock anything meaningful behind w11 upgrade, like they did with DirectX versions, RAM limits etc. So as long as your software doesn't drop Win10 support (like Steam dropped Win7 just a couple of years ago), you'd be fine.
It would be pretty interesting to see where Linux would be by that time tho.
lonesomeCat
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I got my new laptop back in April, had a Windows 11 preinstalled (I wish it wasn't the case, it would've been cheaper but it's very rare to find OS-less PCs in my country)
Anyway, I prepared a Fedora installation before the laptop got home, booted Windows once to make sure everything (regarding hardware) works, and the rest is history.
Tenderizer78
in reply to lonesomeCat • • •lonesomeCat
in reply to Tenderizer78 • • •cyborganism
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I've been dual booting since 2000 starting with Mandrake. Then Ubuntu and stuck with it or Xubuntu or Kununtu ever since.
I had been using win 10 a lot more when I eventually installed it. It was a great OS in my opinion. Until it wasn't because Microshits decided to make it bad. I was getting angry with that and learned last year that it would reach EOL this October. So I booted in Linux and started experiencing with Steam and Proton and Bottles and I was blown away by how easy it had become and how well the games played. So last December I wiped the disk, installed Kubuntu 24.04 and it's been a great experience ever since. Honestly it's insane how easy it has become. To think I had to recompile my kernel to have all the features of my hardware back in the early 2000s. LoL!
I tried to convince my GF to move to Linux but she can't due to her job. It's complicated.
mybuttnolie
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Broken
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I switched to Linux about a year ago.
I was a windows power user and now I'm a Linux noob, but couldn't be happier.
I hate to say it, but there's still reasoning to have Windows. I use a VM with ameliorated windows running for the few things I can't get away from.
For others, I tell them my story. Most people I talk to won't or can't make the switch, which I'm respectful of. To those that would benefit, I recommend at the minimum O&O Shutup but highly recommend ameliorated. This has been more welcomed.
People won't care until they have a reason to care. I'll still be around when they do.
chillpanzee
in reply to Broken • • •For sure. There's a lot of software that's built for Windows only. I have some Garmin aviation software that only works on Windows or Mac. It's pretty shit software, but I have to use it, and since I can do windows in a VM, that's what I use. Similarly, there's another bit of software I use all the time that's only built for iPad. So I have an iPad for that app. There's not always a choice.
Kr4u7
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Distrochooser
distrochooser.deCreat
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I've finally swapped over my main personal (gaming) PC 6+ months ago. Should've probably done that a lot sooner, but lazy. I knew I wouldn't upgrade my Win 10 to 11, and didn't wanna wait until the last minute, but have fallback options and time to distro hop if needed.
I'm not new to Linux at all, as most servers I'm running (personally or in my job) are Linux based. Debian, usually, cause servers. But I haven't used a Linux desktop in well over 20 years.
My choice fell on CachyOS, as I wanted something pre-configured for performance/gaming/wine, but kinda dislike fedora (rules out Bazzite, Nobara, and actual fedora). Also in the running was PikaOS, but I tried CachyOS first and stuck with it. I had no experience with Arch, but what a brilliant base that turns out to be for me. Love the rolling up-to-date-ness and AUR accessibility. I'm used to having to contort myself to get a more current version of software, possibly compiling from source and screwing with dependencies, but everything is literally just there and up to date. Critically, all games basically just worked. Everything just worked. EXcept all mail programs suck to an unexpected degree, but that is literally my only complaint.
I do use the EoL of win 10 as an opportunity to get people to move over or at least try it out. Depending on their use case, I usually still recommend Mint for non-technical people, mostly because searching for help from a Windows convertee likely finds appropriate solutions. The more technical ones get personalized recommendations, depending on context. For example I do have a colleague who spends half his day complaining about anything Microsoft, but still uses Windows at home, but that is mostly because of a single piece of software (and so far I haven't been able to get that to run, but haven't tried very hard yet either).
Domi
in reply to Creat • • •What's wrong with Thunderbird/Betterbird?
antimongo
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Unfortunately still have to use W11 for some anti-cheat games I play with friends 🙁
But being forced to update to 11 motivated me to come back to Linux on a PC. I already have a little homelab with all the flavors, but was wondering how it would game on my desktop.
Ultimately went with Debian + KDE on a second SSD, and it’s just awesome. Especially coming from WSL on my desktop, it’s just so seamless.
Had a little trouble getting Nvidia drivers for my relatively new card (Debian’s latest proprietary driver still didn’t support it lol), so I had to use the official Nvidia repo. And it was a little tricky signing it for Secure Boot, but other than that, awesome.
Need to run better side-by-side tests, but it at least feels like a 10% or so performance improvement.
Thank you Linux! And fuck Fortnite, release a Linux port already!
chillpanzee
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I would help if asked, but I'm not out there trying to convince people. This isn't the first Windows version to be EOLd, and Apple and Android have all but convinced people that a 2-3 year hardware replacement cycle is normal. I just don't think this is a significant consumer event at all.
Yeah, but I wouldn't say "switched" is the right word for me. I've been using a variety of OSes for personal and work for a long time. I worked in embedded software, and we had to support a variety of build toolchains for different host OSes and different target OSes. So the idea of using a different OS on my own computer is not a big deal. Over the years it's been Solaris, BSDos, Mac, Windows, and more flavors of Linux than I can recall.
Not the question you asked, but it was gratifying when Raspberry Pi really started to take off because it was the first time that developing for a different hardware arch and OS target was going mainstream. I would enthusiastically help people with that sort of thing. But even fewer ask. lol
normalexit
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I used windows 10 on my gaming PC for many years. I "upgraded" to 11, and it felt bad. The UI/ux was tolerable, but between the AI features and everything requiring a Microsoft account, it got on my nerves quickly.
I literally just wanted to upgrade the firmware on my Xbox one controller (so it'd work in Linux..) and that forced a login. At that point I logged in, upgraded my controller, formatted as ext4, and now I rarely look back.
Every once in a while a game will crash or not be playable on Linux, but I'd trade that for being in control of the hardware I've spent thousands on over the years.
Very happy with bazzite on my htpc and a kde based distro on my main computer. I pop over to my MacBook for casual computing, but for the real stuff I'll never use windows again (barring being forced by future employers)
monovergent
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Linux on all of my main machines, so I'm grabbing the popcorn. Got LTSC for all the remaining Windows use cases: VMs, beater laptop for Windows-only stuff, and a couple of computers from family.
Most of my friends replace their computers quite frequently, so they're living blissfully unaware on Windows 11 or MacOS. The ones who do have older laptops tend to be tech-savvy enough to have figured out LTSC or Linux themselves. On one occasion, a good friend of mine had an old iMac that wasn't getting updates anymore, so I installed Debian and themed XFCE to look like MacOS, taught them the basics, and they were impressed with the result.
As for family, they're usually very happy with the Linux Mint Debian Edition that I install for them, but some I know just won't use the computer if it doesn't have their familiar Windows-specific software, so I get them started with LTSC.
I frankly have an excess of unused hardware that's piling up, which won't be helped by my access to a good source of e-waste. Old computers have already been trickling in, but I'm excited to see what's next now that the Oct 14 date has come.
muusemuuse
in reply to theorangeninja • • •The EoL doesn’t affect me. I use Linux and Mac. My work pc is windows 10 but that’s their problem.
My roommate refuses to move on. I flat out gave him an old surface pro X with win11 and a spacious new SSD. I offered to migrate him to fedora and teach him how to use it. I offered to help him pick out a new pc if he wants. No, he’ll just keep waiting 20 minutes for his old crusty Dell to boot up, then another 10 to load chrome. For updates, he said he’ll just download hacks as people post them online.
All his shit is on its own VLAN now.
someacnt
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I am a chicken, I could not make the switch for the home desktop and work computer, so I just downgraded to Windows 11. There are some financial apps that needs switching, damn.
Maybe I could convince people to let me use Linux at work..
LeFantome
in reply to someacnt • • •It is just a computer. Don’t let us nerds intimidate you. Use what you are comfortable with.
That said, you could dual boot or even just boot of a USB stick into a live Linux session. That will let you play with it and decide if it is as scary as you feared.
Linux Mint can be written to USB and booted into a live Linux session I believe.
someacnt
in reply to LeFantome • • •PearOfJudes
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Macbook/Linux user here: People (And organisations/governments) who are reasonably skilled with technology will understand that on hardware which can't use windows 11, and is stuck with windows 10 without security updates need an alternative operating system. When institutions switch to linux, they will likely contribute to the opensource project, and overall bring the user base numbers up, which will make more software developers add support for linux.
But while this should happen, it might work in microsoft's favour, (Like when Netflix stopped password sharing) meaning people, who are used to windows will just buy new windows 11 machines, overall increasing microsoft's company value. Microsoft also supports the Israel military during the genocide, and Bill Gates personally supports Trump and had close ties with Epstein, so it would be best if the general public does an accident, or purposeful boycott. Personally I buy secondhand stuff and put linux on it, if you want new stuff either buy a mac, or buy one of those new linux machines from Lenovo?
LeFantome
in reply to PearOfJudes • • •Microsoft will for sure benefit here.
Many users, especially businesses, will simply upgrade.
Some will pay for the ESU.
Some will sign up for cloud backups.
All these benefit Microsoft.
Some fairly small number will work around Microsoft’s plan by upgrading Windows 11 where they are not supposed to or finding a way to get the updates for free.
Sure, probably the biggest fraction of users will probably do nothing. But they were already doing nothing for Microsoft so nothing changes in this case. Of anything, the load in Microsoft servers goes down a bit.
So ya, Microsoft has little incentive not to charge ahead.
Ftumch
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I've been using Linux for about 25 years. I completely stopped using Windows at home more than a decade ago.
I do some volunteer work for an organisation that refurbishes old computers and gives them to people who can't afford one. For the time being we're using Rufus to bypass TPM and other hardware requirements so we can install Windows 11 on everything.
We're willing to install Linux for people who want it, but unfortunately I haven't seen that happen yet. Most of our customers have no idea what an OS is. A lot of people also need Windows for education or work. There's a free course available that teaches how to use a computer and of course that is also Windows-only.
We helped one of our colleagues to install Mint on his old laptop, though.
Cricket [he/him]
in reply to Ftumch • • •Heads up, Microsoft has stated that they do not support machines that don't meet requirements and that those machines may stop receiving security updates at any time.
adarza
in reply to Ftumch • • •not a whole lot of takers here either, and not a single one yet due to win10's "retirement".
everyone wants windows. but after that, most are pretty receptive of other foss options like libreoffice.
data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to theorangeninja • • •brax
in reply to data1701d (He/Him) • • •data1701d (He/Him)
in reply to brax • • •brax
in reply to data1701d (He/Him) • • •SteakSneak
in reply to theorangeninja • • •ndupont
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I would gladly run Linux but have yet to understand why no Debian live media would ever boot on my main laptop
Occultist0178
in reply to ndupont • • •Macaroni_ninja
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Switched to Mint over a year ago from win 10 on my desktop and my wives laptop, we both love it. It was fresh, user friendly and familiar in the same time. To be fair we are pretty much average users without any specialized needs, other than gaming.
Later this year I built a new gaming pc 100% with Linux in mind. I am running Bazzite on it and it works absolutely amazing. Bazzite is currently my favourite distro. Im not a distro hopper or a big tinkerer myself, don't have time for experimenting, so not planning to switch. It just works perfectly.
onlooker
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Yes, that. As far as my circle of friends and acquaintances who are running Win10 are concerned, I've made the effort to advise them to switch to something newer for security reasons. They will probably switch to Windows 11, but that is their concern.
Phoenixz
in reply to theorangeninja • • •SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to theorangeninja • • •LeFantome
in reply to SocialMediaRefugee • • •Believe it not, Steam even works on RHEL if you use Flatpak.
But you are probably going to want to go for something a bit more current. Fedora or Bazzite may work for you as they use the same core layout and userland as RHEL. Fedora is the test bed for the ideas that go into CentOS that becomes RHEL.
Sinfaen
in reply to theorangeninja • • •Richie’s Computer Stuff
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I’ve been using Linux and macOS since 2020. I shifted my main PC from Windows 10 back in April of 2020 right as lockdowns were hitting my locale, when I discovered how much Linux gaming had improved. I was curious to see if I could make it work for myself.
At that time, I had been interested in using Linux more frequently than on random old computers that I had lying around, but my opinions on Microsoft’s and Windows’ “quirks” were… less advanced. At that time I was unconcerned about Windows telemetry and advertising, but it also wasn’t as bad then.
It took me about a week to get everything set up and ready to go and to get settled. At first, I didn’t know if it’d end up sticking. Well, it did. I started with Ubuntu, and quickly went after Pop!_OS. I used that for a while, and eventually shifted to Garuda where I still am today.
Windows 10 end of life has almost no impact on me. My mindset has shifted dramatically since I first started using Linux on my main PC. When I used to not be bothered by Windows’ telemetry I find myself strongly off-put by it. Even macOS, which some say isn’t as bad as Windows puts me off and I’d rather not use it. Having had to set up Windows 10 for someone about a year back, I saw how much worse it got. It was insufferable.
Right now, my brother and sister in law still use Windows 10. They don’t see the problem with that. My brother specifically says he’ll just keep using Windows 10, because he “doesn’t have anything important” on it (I mentioned his Steam account has linked payment info). He’s also told me that he’d rather use Windows 11 (which he hates) than give Linux a try, a stance I don’t understand. It’s clear he doesn’t really understand the situation, and he doesn’t realize that Linux is not necessarily the difficult and unfriendly OS he thinks it is.
I’d rather him use Windows 11 than Windows 10, despite how awful I know it to be. At least there’s somewhat lower risk of nasty compromise there. I also know that he does play at least a couple games with anti-cheat that explicitly block Linux, so that introduces some complexity. But, I’m done preaching. I know how it makes me look, and I’ve tried in the past to change his mind but he’s unwilling to do so, so at this point the only way he’s going to learn is for something really bad to happen. Maybe his computer gets hit by ransomeware that took advantage of an unpatched vulnerability. That might be what it takes to finally make him do something.
I hate that it’s like this. I’ve tried to tell him about the risks. He doesn’t understand the full scale of it, and he dismisses me when I try to explain it to him. But at this point, what can I do besides say “I warned you” when something goes wrong?
☂️-
in reply to theorangeninja • • •tasho
in reply to theorangeninja • • •proooobably should think about putting Bazzite on the gaming PC soon. but my partner is reluctant.
how's online gaming on linux going these days? the issues with anticheat are a bit of a pain.
FreddiesLantern
in reply to theorangeninja • • •I have used Linux for a good while around the early 2000’s. Good memories.
Fast forward to now. Bought a new laptop with W11. hated it.
(Just imagine a long list of frustrations about W11, because I’m not going to contribute anything new by saying it)
-and finally, I want my data to be mine!
And so now I get to annoy my wife about how awesome Linux is. My dad is on the train as well. We both annoy our wives with Linux.
yeehaw
in reply to FreddiesLantern • • •Man I use Windows 11 daily for work and I can't stand how fucking buggy and clunky everything is. It's so bad.
Once in a while I'll boot my Linux desktop and it's just.... Bliss. Other than that I spend a lot of time on my steam deck, love that too.
spaciouscoder78
in reply to theorangeninja • • •