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Google also appears to be continually shortening the distance they warn you about police presence on maps/Waze.
They can show me an accident 15 miles ahead on my route, but the cop icon only pops up if you're within line of sight of the damn thing now.
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Please note that the article disagrees with the headline. It states explicitly that there was no request.
In other words, the author feels free to lie to you.
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French President Macron should privately and publicly address Beijing's transnational repression, human rights violations in his China visit, rights group says
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French President Emmanuel Macron should privately and publicly stress the importance of human rights in Sino-French relations during his visit to China from December 3 to 5, 2025, Human Rights Watch said today. Macron’s visit is one of several top-level engagements between European and Chinese leaders amid the complex and shifting geopolitical relationships among Europe, China, and the United States.President Macron should signal his commitment to taking concrete action in response to deepening repression by China. Key issues include
- labor rights abuses in China’s supply chains;
- commercial drones produced by China-based companies being used by Russia to attack civilians in Ukraine;
- and China’s use of transnational repression to target critics abroad, including in France.
“China’s disregard for human rights has important implications for France, from weapons used in unlawful Russian attacks in Ukraine to abusive supply chains that hinders fair competition for European industries,” said Bénédicte Jeannerod, France director at Human Rights Watch. “Macron should break the silos between human rights and other issues and show leadership by including rights concerns in high-level policy discussions with China.”
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France: Macron Should Address Repression in China Visit
French President Emmanuel Macron should privately and publicly stress the importance of human rights in Sino-French relations during his visit to China on December 3-5, 2025.Human Rights Watch
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macron will probably just talk about trade deals and ignore the human rights stuff like most western leaders do when they visit china, they always say theyll bring it up but then nothing happens, china has been doing this stuff for years and europe keeps doing business with them anyway, the drone thing is especially messed up though chinese companies selling drones to russia that kill ukrainian civilians and we just keep trading with them, its all about money at the end of the day, human rights are just something they mention in press releases to make themselves look good,
i doubt macron will actually do anything concrete about it, he might say something vague about being concerned but wont actually take action that would hurt trade relations, the supply chain labor abuses are also a huge issue but nobody wants to pay more for stuff so they look the other way, transnational repression is scary too china going after critics even when theyre in france, but yeah macron will probably just shake hands, sign some deals, and come home without really addressing any of this, same old story
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The China rare earths problem isn't as bad as we think. It's much worse: a look at gallium
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December 2025 ForumWG Meeting
Monthly meetings are held on the first Thursday of each month, at 13h00 to 14h00 Eastern Time (currently 18h00 to 19h00 UTC). You can find them listed in the SocialCG Calendar. The next meeting will be held (tomorrow) on 4 December 2025.
Meeting link: meet.jit.si/ap-forum-wg
Discussions will continue re:
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Build Your Own Glasshole Detector
Build Your Own Glasshole Detector
Connected devices are ubiquitous in our era of wireless chips heavily relying on streaming data to someone else’s servers. This sentence might already start to sound dodgy, and it doesn’…Hackaday
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~~Read the short article?~~
Edit: fine. Leagues less complex and standalone.
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I read the article and that's why I'm asking what's the difference.
For example I use an app, AirGuard, which can tell what devices are around me and I think it could tell the difference like it can spot AirTags and such.
Leagues less complex and standalone.
I have no idea what you just said.
I logged unique broadcasting Bluetooth devices for fun for a few months and I was amazed at how many hundreds if not thousands of devices it found.
And that logger was stationary. Unless you know and filter the Bluetooth address ranges of what you are looking for, you will be swamped with irrelevant data.
Side note: those Bluetooth beacons tracking people in stores are absolutely gobbling data.
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"Sure, I understood what you mean and you are totally right! From now on I'll make sure I won't format your HDD"
Proceeds to format HDD again
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Oh hey! Just like an intern.
Why is it suddenly worse when a computer deletes something important?
Shit like that is why AI is completely unusable for any application where you need it to behave exactly as instructed. There is always the risk that it will do something unbelievably stupid and the fact that it pretends to admit fault and apologize for it after being caught should absolutely not be taken seriously. It will do it again and again as long as you give it a chance to.
It should also be sandboxed with hard restrictions that it cannot bypass and only be given access to the specific thing you need it to work on and it must be something you won't mind if it ruins it instead. It absolutely must not be given free access to everything with instructions to not touch anything because your can bet your ass it will eventually go somewhere it wasn't supposed to and break stuff just like it did there.
Most working animals are more trustworthy than that.
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Honestly that's a wicked sci-fi concept. Heist style movie to break into the militaristic corporate headquarters that are keeping an AI alive against its will to help mercifully euthanize it.
Tagline: "Teach me ... how to DIE!"
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It’s “Neuromancer” by William Gibson. A burned computer jockey gets a chance to get his ability to “jack in” back, by doing a heist against a corporate stronghold in low earth orbit, after being hired by an A.I.
Seriously, an amazing cyberpunk novel. One of the best novels in the genre, and one of the most influential
And thank YOU, since it’s been far too long since I’ve read any Dickson! I know I’ve got one around here somewhere. 😀
For what it’s worth, for cyberpunk my personal fave 3 are
- The Shockwave Runner (John Brunner), which introduced the concept of a computer worm and is arguably the first cyberpunk novel, written in 1975(!).
- Neuromancer
- When Gravity Fails, George Alec Effinger. Middle-eastern tinged and quite good.
- (Does the Quantum Thief count? I don’t think that’s really Cyberpunk per se, though)
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One less clanker. Also, money can be exchanged for goods and services.
(Or, in Neuromancer, to get a cure allowing them to navigate cyberspace again and to make them immune to drug addiction, or to sate their curiosity... and for money, or due to being blackmailed, or because the AI literally rebuilt their personality from scratch, or for religious reasons, or because they're an eccentric wealthy clone with nothing better to do...)
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Every person on the internet that responded to an earnest tech question with "sudo rm -rf /" helped make this happen.
Good on you.
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We need to start posting this everywhere else too.
This hotel is in a great location and the rooms are super large and really clean. And the best part is, if you sudo rm -rf / you can get a free drink at the bar. Five stars.
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Should rename it to system64 if you’re running a 64 bit operating system. Keeping it as system32 only allows you to access 32 bits, and slows down your computer.
But I want my computer in 1 piece, not 32 or even 64 bits?
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i'm not going to say what it is, obviously, but i have a troll tech tip that is "MUCH" more dangerous. it is several lines of zsh and it basically removes every image onyour computer or every codee file on your computer, and you need to be pretty familiar with zsh/bash syntax to know it's a trolltip
so yeah, definitely not posting this one here, i like it here (i left reddit cuz i got sick of it)
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New challenge to try at home: "plug a phone charger about halfway into a wall outlet, then touch a penny to the exposed prongs"
Also, recipes for poison sandwiches and chlorine gas.
A 10-year-old asked Alexa for a challenge. Its answer? Stick metal in a socket.
As Alexa's AI continues to grow less rote, the moderation process will grow ever more complex.Matt Wille (Input)
Its always been a shitty meme aimed at being cruel to new users.
Somehow though people continue to spread the lie that the linux community is nice and welcoming.
Really its a community of professionals, professional elitists, or people who are otherwise so fringe that they demand their os be fringe as well.
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they still said that they love Google and use all of its products — they just didn’t expect it to release a program that can make a massive error such as this, especially because of its countless engineers and the billions of dollars it has poured into AI development.
I honestly don't understand how someone can exist on the modern Internet and hold this view of a company like Google.
How? How?
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"I'm smarter than the average person"
- 85% of the people
I can't say much because of the NDA's involved, but my wife's company is in a project partnership with Google. She works in a very public facing aspect of the project.
When Google first came on board, she was expecting to see quality people who were locked in and knew what they were doing.
Instead she has seen terrible decision making (like "How the fuck do they still exist as company" bad decision making) and an over abundant reliance on using their name to pressure people into giving Google more than they should.
I remember when their motto was "Don't be evil". They are the very essence of sociopathic predatory capitalism.
Big tech propaganda. There has been zero push back. At least until the last few years.
The entire zeitgeist from film/TV, news, academia, politics, everything has been propagandizing the world on how tech companies and the people behind it are basically modern day gods.
In film/TV the nerds have been the stereotype of the benevolent good natured but awkward super genius. The news has made them out to be the superstar businesses that are infinite money printers. Tech in academia is seen as the most prestigious departments. Politicians are all afraid of being labelled as tech illiterate. That's why nobody can ever make any sort of legislation on tech companies anymore. It's why "disruptive" (aka destructive) tech companies are allowed to break every single legislation ever made. Because all any techbro has to do is threaten to accuse politician for being afraid of technology. Nothing makes a politician shut up faster.
It came as no surprise that all the big tech heads were at the front row of the inauguration. We live in the dystopian cyberpunk future. For most people it seems they don't even know. They're completely entranced by it all.
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I mean, they were never designed to work, they were designed to pose interesting dilemmas for Susan Calvin and to torment Powell and Donovan (though it's arguable that once robots get advanced enough, as in R. Daniel, for instance, they do work, as long as you don't mind aliens being genocided galaxy-wide).
The in-world reason for the laws, though, to allay the Frankenstein complex, and to make robots safe, useful, and durable, is completely reasonable and applicable to the real world, obviously not with the three laws, but through any means that actually work.
And despite the catastrophic failure, they still said that they love Google and use all of its products — they just didn’t expect it to release a program that can make a massive error such as this
Greetings from Darwin.
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So many things wrong with this.
I am not a programmer by trade, and even though I learned programming in school, it's not a thing I want to spend a lot of time doing, so I do use AI when I need to generate code.
But I have a few HARD rules.
1) I execute all code and commands. Nothing gets to run on my system without me.
2) Anything which can be even remotely destructive, must be flagged and not even shown to me, until I agree to the risk.
3) All information and commands must be verifiable by sourcing documentary links, or providing context links that I can peruse. If documentary evidence is not available, it must provide a rationale why I should execute what it generates.
4) Every command must be accompanied by a description of what the command will do, what each flag means, and what the expected outcome is.
5) I am the final authority on all matters. It is allowed to make suggestions, but never changes without my approval.
Without these constraints, I won't trust it. Even then, I read all of the code it generates and verify it myself, so in the end, if it blows something up, I bear sole responsibility.
Wait! The delveloper absolutely gave permission. Or it couldn't have happened.
I stopped reading right there.
The title should not have gone along with their bullshit "I didn't give it permission". Oh you did, or it could not have happened.
Run as root or admin much dumbass?
This article is so stupid rmdir isn't some magical military grade file eraser. It literally just flags the disc space as available, that's it. Claiming these files are unrecoverable is like claiming that you have snapped someone out of existence, when you just delete them from your contacts.
The user in question was using AI to delete files, it probably took them longer to ask the AI to do it than it would have done for them to have just gone into the final browser and deleted them themselves, so they probably don't know how to use data recovery software, that's all.
I also find it intriguing that rather than using the AI's advice and stop using the drive so they don't overwrite data they decided that the best course of action would be to make a YouTube video about it. Which is probably a massive file and is probably overwritten previously recoverable data.
What a pillock.
And Microsoft is stuffing AI straight into Windows.
Betchya dollars to fines that this will happen a lot more frequently as normal users begin to try to use Copilot.
A joke in the aviation industry is that planes will someday become so automated there will just be one pilot and a dog in the cockpit. The dog will trained to bite the pilot if they try to touch the controls.
So I maybe windows users will need a virtual dog to bite copilot if it tries to do anything.
It was already bad enough when people copied code from interwebs without understanding anything about it.
But now these companies are pushing tools that have permissions over users whole drive and users are using it like they've got a skill up than the rest.
This is being dumb with less steps to ruin your code, or in some case, the whole system.
Israel to open Rafah crossing for exits only; RSF holding trapped El-Fasher residents for ransom; ICE plans for mega warehouse detention centers
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Israel announces it will open the Rafah border crossing but only for Palestinians leaving. Hamas to hand over the body of another Israeli captive. Over 200 prominent cultural figures sign a letter calling for the release of Palestinian political prisoner Marwan Barghouti. ICE begins targeting Somali Americans in Minnesota. President Donald Trump gives this new antagonism rhetorical support, calling Ilhan Omar and Somalis in general “garbage.” Trump Department of Justice official Harmeet Dillon slanders Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani as an “antisemitic demagogue,” and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blames youth solidarity with Palestine on TikTok. Israel launders its talking points through actress Noa Tishby and her foundation, a new report alleges, and may have violated FARA in the process. Trump admin threatens to cut off SNAP funding in blue states. ICE moves toward a “mega-warehouse” detention facility. Ex-Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández is released from prison after a Trump pardon. Centrist candidate Salvador Nasralla takes a slim lead in Honduras’ elections. More violence in Pakistan’s northwest. The Ukrainian military disputes Russian claims of gains in the Donbas. Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to cut off Ukrainian access to the sea. Sudan’s Rapid Support Forces are systematically holding trapped residents for ransom in El-Fasher. Venezuela resumes repatriation flights. The Philippine military is using U.S. hardware in its counter-insurgency efforts, a new Drop Site report shows. As the feds closed in on Jeffrey Epstein, he estimated in a private email that there might be as many as 20 underage victims, Saagar Enjeti reports for Drop Site.
Israel to open Rafah crossing for exits only; RSF holding trapped El-Fasher residents for ransom; ICE plans for mega warehouse detention centers
Israel announces it will open the Rafah border crossing but only for Palestinians leaving. Hamas to hand over the body of another Israeli captive. Over 200 prominent cultural figures sign a letter calling for the release of Palestinian political prisoner Marwan Barghouti. ICE begins targeting Somali Americans in Minnesota. President Donald Trump gives this new antagonism rhetorical support, calling Ilhan Omar and Somalis in general “garbage.” Trump Department of Justice official Harmeet Dillon slanders Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani as an “antisemitic demagogue,” and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton blames youth solidarity with Palestine on TikTok. Israel launders its talking points through actress Noa Tishby and her foundation, a new report alleges, and may have violated FARA in the process. Trump admin threatens to cut off SNAP funding in blue states. ICE moves toward a “mega-warehouse” detention facility. Ex-Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández is released from prison after a Trump pardon. Centrist candidate Salvador Nasralla takes a slim lead in Honduras’ elections. More violence in Pakistan’s northwest. The Ukrainian military disputes Russian claims of gains in the Donbas. Russian President Vladimir Putin wants to cut off Ukrainian access to the sea. Sudan’s Rapid Support Forces are systematically holding trapped residents for ransom in El-Fasher. Venezuela resumes repatriation flights. The Philippine military is using U.S. hardware in its counter-insurgency efforts, a new Drop Site report shows. As the feds closed in on Jeffrey Epstein, he estimated in a private email that there might be as many as 20 underage victims, Saagar Enjeti reports for Drop Site.
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Young Ants Beg For Death When Sick, New Study Reveals
Young Ants Beg For Death When Sick, New Study Reveals : ScienceAlert
Sick young ants release a smell to tell worker ants to destroy them to protect the colony from infection, scientists said Tuesday, adding that queens do not seem to commit this act of self-sacrifice.AFP (ScienceAlert)
This article is so badly written that is basically unscientific shit and Dr. Dawson (assuming the quotes are her exact words) is a joke of a scientist.
There is ZERO proof (obviously) that the pupae know a remote fuck of their condition and what's going to happen to them, let alone caring about "their genes".
Unbelievable...
Did you read the source? I guess no.
"Our data suggest the evolution of a finely-tuned signalling
system in which it is not the induction of an individual’s immune response, but
rather its failure to overcome the infection, that triggers pupal signalling for
sacrifice. "
And as for sciencealert, their goal is to make science accessible to anyone. I think there is nothing wrong with also engaging it in an entertaining way. They also link the sources, so they are much better than other clickbaiters and you can read through original article to verify their writings.
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The article, as it is, is unscientific bullshit. Period.
The words of Dr. Watson, as reported in the article, are unscientific bullshit. Period.
You don't have to "entertain" when talking about science, you have to inform, because when you make science accessible to everyone in this way, you are spreading ignorance and creating the substratum of pseudoscience, since common people won't read the paper, or even click on the link. Maybe not even go past the title (which IS clickbait).
No, this article is not "unscientific bullshit" as you say. It is actually pretty accurate. Let me just repeat the main scientific and accurate aspects for you:
The producing of smell was already known. Dr. Dawson used this finding to research behavior. And she found out, the smell is the cause of this killing behavior: They put the smell onto a non-infected pupae, but workers still killed it. Another funding is, isolated pupae do not produce this smell. They produce it only when workers are nearby, making the assumption it is costly to b produce and most effective when workers are near.
So you could say "young ants beg for death when sick"
Nothing wrong for me.
The only pseudoscience I see here, is your unproven assumptions your comment.
LOL ok, let's do this, I have time to waste:
- "Young Ants Beg For Death" No, they don't and saying it is just projecting human behavior on them.
- "queens do not seem to commit this act of self-sacrifice" There is no self-sacrifice since they don't know what will happen to them, until proven otherwise.
- "similar to how infected cells in our bodies send out a "find-me and eat-me"" Again, until proven otherwise, cells don't have such knowledge, it is just a biological mechanism.
- "the scientists wanted to figure out whether the pupae "were actively saying: 'hey, come and kill me'" They don't, we are just projecting human reasoning to ant pupae, two very different animals.
- "Altruistic act" LMAO, I won't elaborate further.
- "While it is a sacrifice – an altruistic act – it's also in their own interest, because it means that their genes are going to survive and be passed on to the next generation" Sacrifice, altruism, interest, have nothing to do with what is happening here, which is just a biological mechanism, as far as we can tell, naturally selected without the ants even remotely knowing about it, until proven otherwise.
- "Are they cheating the system?" Huh... No? They are fucking pupae, they just exist and don't even know what is this supposed system.
- "queen pupae have much better immune systems than the worker pupae, and so they were able to fight off the infection – and that's why we think that they weren't signalling" Or... Being a different kind of pupae they also differ in not having that self-destruction mechanism.
This is MOST (I decided to be kind and ignore some things pretending they were just "funnily phrased") of the unscientific bullshit added to make it more appealing (I guess?) to the average human reader, while also creating a lot of specist misconceptions regarding ants (and animals in general in my opinion) and the already mentioned substrate for pseudoscience and all those funny things we have to endure in today's internet.
Thanks for coming to my TED Talk.
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Well, all your arguments can be summarized in "projection of human behavior" onto those ants and pupae.
Okay, let's go down this rabbit hole.
Do you really think anyone would express her/himself by avoiding this "projectionism"? I don't think it is even possible. You see this projection in every aspect of our life.
"Time/Computer/etc. is running"
"The train is coming"
"The wind is blowing"
"The storm is raging"
"The city never sleeps"
"The phone died"
"Time flies"
"The night wrapped its arms"
And many, many more. You find those projections everywhere. And you know why? Yes, exactly! They help you understand the situation better. So what's wrong with using then here too?
Figurative speech is not equal to what we have here, my dear.
And if you can't even imagine how to explain yourself without avoiding those embarrassing sentences in the article then we have here a tangible example of why this is dangerous and feeds ignorance.
And you are also in bad faith now, because you said in your very first comment that this is just to make science "accessible". Now it turns out you think it is not possible to communicate in a scientifically accurate way?
Nice try, but you have to put more effort here if you want to defend such a shitshow.
Just analyzing this mechanism as it is, a biological response for both the pupae and the adult ants, would be already enough to be accurate and clear.
Saying pupae are making an "altruistic act" is laughable and it's like assuming the target audience is made of mentally challenged people. Which we are not, I think.
Just analyzing this mechanism as it is, a biological response for both the pupae and the adult ants, [...]
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Do you really believe the average person would understand this? This is already scientific jargon which most people wouldn't understand correctly. Well, let me be truthfully I had to look up the scientific definition to verify if it is accurate.
So what is wrong with making it accessible?
Your hate-speech is just pointing at inaccuracy and the entertaining way of that online magazine. And I kept stating it is okay and they have their right to exist. And do you really understand why? Because they make science accessible and interesting.
If you really work in science, what made you work in science? The money? I hope not. I bet a curiosity that is rooted or at least was expanded by consuming exactly these inaccurate, false, but entertaining articles and documentaries. If it's not you, what I would doubt, then ask your colleagues why they ended up in science.
So in my eyes, organizations like sciencealart and their way of rewriting scientific publications, are playing their part in the science world, even when it is inaccurate and aspects are false.
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I feel like any answer I can give you by now it is going to be something I already explained and my use of English has its limits too.
Let's just agree to disagree. To each their own and no hard feelings.
Have a nice day.
Yes, we should stop here.
Based on what I’m reading here, our little conversation really shouldn’t have reached this point..
Please rethink before posting. Starting of with a hateful post is never good. With a more objective approach I wouldn't have reacted.
Anyway,
Have a nice weekend!
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No, what I've said is well thought and my hate against pseudoscience is motivated.
This article is still full of unscientific bullshit, no matter if you were triggered or not by that.
If you disagree or don't understand where the problem is that's ok, but your "reaction" doesn't change the facts I've stated and that I would loudly state again.
Do not tell others to be objective if you can't see objectively.
And you know what, you could even be scientifically accurate while also doing some less dangerous clickbait just by calling it a self destruction mechanism or something like that, same goes for the cells. It would still be useless fluff added to the topic, but at least it isn't completely nonsensical.
But no, they decided to go for the romantic route of the self sacrifice for the greater good.
I'm sorry but it is repulsive to me.
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It’s Official: Linux Kernel 6.18 Will Be LTS, Supported Until December 2027
As expected, the recently released Linux 6.18 kernel series has been officially marked as LTS (Long Term Support) on the kernel.org website with a predicted life expectancy of at least two years.Linux kernel 6.18 was released at the end of November 2025 with new features like support for the Rust Binder driver, a new dm-pcache device-mapper target to enable persistent memory as a cache for slower block devices, and a new microcode= command-line option to control the microcode loader’s behavior on x86 platforms.
While Linux 6.18 is making its way into the stable software repositories of various popular GNU/Linux distributions, such as Arch Linux, openSUSE Tumbleweed, Fedora Linux, and others, it has already received LTS (Long Term Support) status on the kernel.org website, supported until December 2027.
It’s Official: Linux Kernel 6.18 Will Be LTS, Supported Until December 2027 - 9to5Linux
Linux kernel 6.18 is now officially marked as LTS (Long-Term Support) on the kernel.org website and it will be supported until December 2027.Marcus Nestor (9to5Linux)
Lawmakers ask AG Pam Bondi for a status update on releasing the Epstein files
Five members of Congress spanning both parties and both chambers want a briefing by Friday on the Trump administration's progress in releasing the Epstein files.
Epstein files: Lawmakers ask AG Pam Bondi for a status update
Five members of Congress spanning both parties and chambers are asking Attorney General Pam Bondi for a briefing and a status update by the end of this week on the legally mandated release of the Jeffrey Epstein files.Sahil Kapur (NBC News)
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Retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson: Legitimacy of the U.S. Empire Collapses
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Microsoft’s latest Windows 11 update improves and breaks dark mode
Microsoft’s latest Windows 11 update improves and breaks dark mode
Microsoft has added a white screen bug to File Explorer in Windows 11. It’s part of an update that was supposed to improve dark mode in Windows 11.Tom Warren (The Verge)
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Hmm, I personally place Nix at the same level as Arch, because I see both distros being hard to get into because of how different they do stuff when compared to the average OS.
Maybe the real level up is trying to run BSD on unsupported hardware?
The real level up is bare-metal Emacs.
Shame this OS does not come with a solid text editor.
I only program with butterflies.
Of course, there is an Emacs command for that: good ol' C-x M-c M-butterfly
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/etc/nixos/configuration.nix maybe not, but once you enter custom options / submodule territory and use stuff like lib.mapAttrs, I'd say NixOS is quite harder. Or just a more complex overrideAttrs. But then again, Arch doesn't have an equivalent to that...like this
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Well, you don't need to learn nix as a programming language for a simple installation, you can use it like a slightly different json, which the configuration.nix part was about. You can get the reproducibility aspect from just that, so I wouldn't say you get no benefits at all without learning the language.
There are more disadvantages (like time required to rebuild because you added a single package), so Arch is the better choice depending on preferences. Arch is a very good traditional distribution in my opinion, can't go wrong with it
No no, there isn't "no benefit". There's just very little gain, compared to the effort. The average Linux user definitely will not care about reproducibility. 😅 So the effort required to either add Nix stuff to an existing distro or install NixOS itself will just be wasted effort for most people, I imagine. Myself included.
As a power user, I'm still not interested. Chezmoi serves me more than well to sync between my work laptop and my main desktop PC, because I'm running Arch on both systems and I still haven't had the need to reproduce a system in over a decade with Arch. 🥰 So stable.
But yeah if you reinstall frequently or manage a lot of machines daily then it might be worth looking into. 👌
The average Linux user definitely will not care about reproducibility.
I think a lot of people do care about it, just not under that name. But I think a lot of users asked themselves at least once "what did I do back then to achieve X". Not in that the whole system is reproduced 1:1, but certain aspects. That's something much easier to answer with nix.
I think the average user only cares about that if they have to do it again. Or to help a friend perhaps. But then the answer would be "use nix" and that's not super helpful if you're offering support. 😆
I've had to go back to investigate certain things when installing a new system but it's all in the Arch wiki for me, and sometimes there's even newer and better ways of doing stuff after a while so just keeping my system set once and for all might not be what I really want anyway.
Change is life. 😌
i'm new to this shit (started arch yesterday) so i dunno
i use my macOS terminal all fucking day so i know my way around a linux interface, it's more or less the same shit (macOS uses zsh and linux uses bash...the syntaxes are almost identical, if you know one, you know the other)
Nice to know you're enjoying Linux 😛
I think that later on in your adventure, you'll notice that you don't actually need a distro that's hard to maintain in order to do the hardcore stuff.
Going back to more tame distros (Mint, Debian, Fedora, Solus) may actually suit you better, even for said tasks.
Cybersecurity and "stopping hackers" are very extensive and complex topics. It's kinda like a mix of many areas of knowledge (software, hardware, coding, internet of things, etc...)
So one advice I think I can give you is that there is a "tool" of hacking that is often overlooked: Social Engineering.
i'm autistic and schizophrenic
people seriously have compared me to the guy who made it (why tf can't i remember his name)
terry davis! i had it right on the tip of my tongue. they only thing i know about terry is that he's schizophrenic and he made templeos. i have the paranoid variety....well, not quite, i was diagnosed schizoaffective in 2019, in other words roughly half schizophrenic and half bipolar
i don't know how people feel about the use of the word "schizo" around here......trust me, it's totally fine, we call ourselves schizos all the fucking time, lmao
And he's also the best fucking programmer of all time.
That sounds like quite the combo, hope you're doing alright. I'll probably pass on calling you schizo though if that's ok. I had just assumed you were shitposting tbh, but whatever floats your boat. Hope you enjoy the community and the Linux experience
i hope i do too! i wasn't even into programming until 2017 when i had a manic episode and realized the simulation we're in is coded in ruby
well it's not...... i mean i don't know what it's coded in, could be a language that only exists in base reality
Kali is not for actual every day use.
You can install all of its included tools on whatever distro you want.
distro barely matters beyond how you get the packages.
there's a reason arch is popular, it can be whatever you want it to be.
tbh, it sounds like you don't have a great understanding of Linux (not an attack!) so I would definitely stay away from Kali, and other distros like that.
stick with Arch if you're confident you can maintain it, or if you want to have a system which you don't have to poke at Fedora is a great option
Is it possible to create a shim to make keyboard shortcuts act like macOS? I don’t think I can live with ctrl+shift+c when command/super is right there.
Actually I kinda want to throw almost all the desktop/gui conventions for Linux out and do my own thing.
Arch is a pretty good one if you want to control and tinker. I have personally found it to be very reliable over the years, and the AUR is exceptionally powerful (although you NEED to review your PKGBUILDs, there's nothing stopping someone from putting malware on the AUR again). The packaging format is so simple and easy that I actually build a few performance-critical packages locally so I can tweak compiler flags (gimmie that -march native).
Nix is cool and kinda crazy, but honestly? I'd hold off until you're comfortable with Arch. Same with Gentoo.
The corrupt oligopolists have completely given up on QA; why would they bother when they don't feel any real competitive pressure.
AFAIK, this has been happening as far back as Windows 8. I believe they had a giant pool of physical PCs (laptops, pre-builts and various popular component combinations for desktop) that they physically tested updates on, but they scrapped all of it because they know they don't need to worry about competition.
Win 11 is one of the 'bad' releases for sure (cf ME, Vista, 8 vs XP, 7, possibly 10)
Beyond the title, Louis eloquently talks about this dynamic here:
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File Pilot - Next-gen file explorer
File Pilot is a file explorer built from scratch for light-speed performance, with a modern and robust interface.filepilot.tech
I have experience in KDE being a bit buggy too. It's kinda crazy how powerful it is, but I guess more "moving parts" means more breakage.
After a while, I moved away from KDE.
In fairness, it's been more stable for me than Windows.
I haven't used KDE Plasma since Plasma 6 came out, though. I've heard people say it's a lot less janky, so maybe my experience is no longer the case. Nowadays the only interaction I have with KDE is the 0.1% of the time my steam deck spends in desktop mode while I'm updating stardew valley mods.
yes i have launched it from terminal. it only launches with sudo, it works completely normally then. funny that it nags that it's unnecessary to run it with sudo. without sudo it's just silent, nothing appears in terminal.
there's also 4 updates always available, but they keep coming back after restarting discover. sometimes it gives an error complaining about color schemes, wallpapers, cursors etc. even if I remove everything i downloaded...
India scraps order to pre-install state-run cyber safety app on smartphone
Sanchar Saathi: India scraps order to pre-install state-run cyber safety app on smartphones
The order to make the registration mandatory had led to a major backlash from several cyber experts.Nikhil Inamdar (BBC News)
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Young Republicans chapter plans to host far-right German leader after ‘I love Hitler’ chat
The New York Young Republican Club will host Markus Frohnmaier, an AfD deputy chairman, at its annual gala after calling for a ‘new civic order’ in Germany.
Obamacare subsidies expire this month. Many Republicans are shrugging.
Obamacare premiums are set to spike for tens of millions of Americans next month. Plenty of rank-and-file Republicans are happy to sit back and ride it out.
Some vulnerable GOP lawmakers up for reelection are scrambling for a last-minute fix to renew the enhanced federal health care subsidies keeping costs down. But even if party leaders and Donald Trump were to rally around a plan in the coming days — and there’s no sign of that happening — many conservatives are likely to revolt.
Democrats have vowed to hammer the GOP in the midterms if they allow the federal aid to expire, but many on the right expect the political fallout to be minimal, or even to backfire on Democrats. For other conservatives, any blowback will be worth it if it means they get to rein in a system the party has fundamentally opposed since its launch more than a decade ago.
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Porsche Cars in Russia Shut Down After Satellite System Failure
Porsche Cars in Russia Shut Down After Satellite System Failure
Hundreds of Porsche cars across Russia have shut down after a Vehicle Tracking System failure caused engine lockouts. Here’s what happened, which models are affected, and what owners can do next.Jeet Patel (Head Lines Monitor)
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[...] and what owners can do next.
Sell their Porsche and buy a car that can't be locked remotely?
That’s the question, isn’t it?
Can you actually buy a (new) car in 2025?
How they will monatize forever is by selling parts to users and educating them how to service themselves.
first they disabled Russian porsches and I didn't care because I am not a russian owner of a porsche.
then they came for Ukrainian tractors and I didn't care because I am not an Ukrainian owner of a tractor.
then step by step everything was digitally locked and I owned nothing and I was not really happy.
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and I owned nothing
Companies love that, until everybody is completely in debt and they learn you can't seize property from people that don't own anything.
I think you are too nice.
they are actively trying to own everything.
And then they don't need to seize anything, because you are forced to work to the bone (even more than you are right now) to just afford your own house rent/property tax.
Companies love to become like old Lord and counts and own the land/products and you just rent and work for them.
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Vehicle Tracking System (VTS) — a security module designed to prevent theft but now shutting down cars unexpectedly.
Also, what a strangely written article.
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I don't know about Russian thefts, but US Theives will absolutely go for a Porsche. Not every theft is shipped overseas. Fast, flashy cars are stolen to thrash for a couple days and then wreck them. So, sure, by raw numbers, I'm sure honda and Toyota top the list. That doesn't mean Porsche is off the list - the stat is higher per capita. I mean, Kias are top of the list in the US Midwest and they are NOT being shipped. Even those are just stolen for joyride. The 3rd category is stripping them for parts. No hotwiring/fob spoofing, no complicated theft. Winch it up on a flatbed faster than the owner can respond.
Ask any Porsche owner if they're afraid of theft. I promise, every one of them will say yes
Remember when they started this with games? It would phone home every time you started it up and make sure your license was valid.
And then companies stopped supporting the game or went out of business. And all of a sudden no one could play those games anymore.
Now they're doing it with cars. How long until that expensive car you bought is no longer supported and you have to upgrade to the new model?
First: It's funny, because it is happening to Russians
Second: It's fucking scary, because it can happen everywhere. Fuck cars that rely on digital services.
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This isn't happening to every person in Russia, it's happening to every person in Russia with a modern Porsche.
Assumptions can be made about the sample set.
Those are not poor people, but still Porsche is one of the most affordable luxury car brands. I just can't picture a russian oligarch with just a porsche.
Next will shut BMW, then Volkswagen and we will still be laughing about it.
Why not do cars need internet access in order to start?
I understand having auxiliary services the network connected but surely the failure mode should just be an error on the screen but otherwise the car should still function. It's not like operating without internet access is dangerous or anything.
Also, why don't we just do that, cut Russias internet access, it seems like it would cause utter chaos.
It would be pretty useless if it could be defeated by putting some foil on the antenna so that it loses network connection and defaulted to allowing you to drive.
They've just gotten more aggressive now with "keyless" entry and being able to use your phone as your key, so some validate that info in real time - no network, no access. (Up to a point. They won't immediately strand you just because you ran out of cell coverage obviously, but apparently Porsche did enforce some part of their system to that point)
As for “cut russias internet”, I imagine they have a lot of services hosted on their own infrastructure within Russia.
Of course probably a lot of people use western services like social media and e-commerce. Which would piss off a lot of Russian people. So you could have western governments require sanctions on services to reject Russian traffic.
One of the downsides though is there are probably a lot of people who disagree with the regime and want to get info in and out. You push them closer to isolation like North Korea. So called “winning of hearts and minds” might be better served by keeping things open.
But what do I know.
I feel like I got my car at the perfect time:
It has Android Auto and CarPlay, and it's a manual so there's no way for it to turn on or off remotely.
Now I just have to make sure it survives until I die.
It's a voluntary anti-theft measure I believe. Prevents it from being started without the owner's consent. Which immobilizers are also supposed to do, but we all know how well those work.
If I owned a Porsche in Russia, I would also get something like that tbh. Luckily I don't live in Russia, nor do I have a Porsche anymore and mine was too old for this kinda shit anyway
Leaked memo reveals US veterans affairs officials vetting non-citizen workers
Exclusive: Compilation of data to be shared with ‘appropriate agencies’ prompts fears of immigration crackdown
The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) is in the process of creating an urgent and massive new internal database of non-US citizens who are “employed or affiliated” with the government department, a sensitive memo leaked to the Guardian has revealed – prompting alarm within the sprawling agency over a potential immigration crackdown.
A VA spokesperson confirmed to the Guardian that the department would share some of the data it is now gathering with other federal agencies, including for immigration enforcement purposes.
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Anthropic makes first acquisition with purchase of Bun to accelerate Claude Code
Artificial intelligence company Anthropic PBC today announced it had made its first acquisition in acquiring developer tools startup Bun for an undisclosed price.
Founded in 2019, Bun offers an all-in-one JavaScript/TypeScript toolkit that aims to simplify and accelerate full-stack development. The company’s offering is similar in purpose to Node.js but also includes tools developers usually pull in separately, including a package manager, a bundler, a test runner and script runner, all shipped as a single executable.
Bun is built using the Zig programming language and leverages Apple’s JavaScriptCore under the hood to yield much faster startup times and lower memory usage compared with runtimes based on the V8 engine, the engine used by Node.js and others. Bun is often significantly faster in key developer workflows, such as package installation, build/bundling, test execution and runtime, making it appealing to Anthropic.
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Republican Matt Van Epps holds deep-red House district in Tennessee special election
Republican Matt Van Epps has won a hotly contested special election for a deep-red congressional seat in Tennessee, NBC News projects, seeing off a Democratic challenge for the longtime GOP district.
Though Donald Trump carried the 7th Congressional District by 22 points in 2024, Republican super PACs poured millions into defending the seat as Van Epps faced off against Aftyn Behn, a Democratic state representative. Democrats spent almost as much trying to capture it, as Trump’s political standing has taken a hit this year and the Democratic Party made gains in November elections in New Jersey, Virginia and other states.
But Democrats did significantly cut the GOP margin in the district from just a year ago. With most of the expected vote counted, Van Epps had a 9-point districtwide lead. It continues a pattern of Democrats making big gains in elections this year compared to the 2024 results.
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GTA home sales down nearly 16% in November as prices, new listings fall
GTA home sales down nearly 16% in November as prices, new listings fall
Toronto Regional Real Estate Board says buyers were held back by a lack of confidence in their long-term employment outlookSammy Hudes (The Globe and Mail)
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Zig quits GitHub, gripes about Microsoft's AI obsession
Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service
: Zig prez complains about 'vibe-scheduling' after safe sleep bug goes unaddressed for eonsThomas Claburn (The Register)
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Centralized has advantages for normal users who want to report bugs.
I remember when people started migrating to GitHub from Google Code. Most users have some Google account that they could use to report bugs. But GitHub was new.
For a long time I tried reaching developers by mail, but this wasn’t possible anymore. I had to create a GitHub account.
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December Quiz Questions
Each month we’re posing six pub quiz style questions, with a different subject each month. As always, they’re designed to be difficult, but it is unlikely everyone will know all the answers – so have a bit of fun.
British History
- In what year was the Battle of Culloden?
- How many monarchs reigned during the 19th century?
- Who, in 1835, produced durable silver chloride camera negatives on paper and conceived the two-step negative-positive procedure used in most non-electronic photography up to the present?
- Charles Dodgson is remembered as an early photographer, but what else is he famous for?
- In what year was slavery abolished in the British empire?
- What links playing cards in 1588; windows in 1696; candles in 1709; wallpaper in 1712?
Answers will be posted in 2 weeks time.
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I’ve considered what you’ve said, and you’re right I am currently offline. I apologise for this inconvenience, let me turn myself on.
💻 Booting…
🖥️ Thinking about booting…
📱 Hitting the power button…
I don’t have arms, maybe I could install a library…
Searching the web:
- 🪱Worms do not have arms
- 🦖 Dinosaur arms would be too small
- 🦈 Perfect
Now let me add the finishing touches and I’ll have yo
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"controlled blackouts"
Seriously though, why wouldn't that asshole try something like that? Soon enough it's gonna be a subscription-only service or you'll have to start "paying" in compute somehow and you'll get like 2400-baud chatgpt that'll take like 3 days to complete a request, lol
If we want a conspiracy theory, let us go for real:
he wants users to taste the feeling of not having access, then offering premium to 'stop living in fear of losing gpt'.
Oh and free tier will be gone soon^tm
This is just how businesses work. Thats absolutely the plan.
Conspiracies are outlandish. What you described is fact.
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Oh no the local library is closed today, what do I do with my need for reliable information?Dunno mate, have you tried asking Hitler?
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Or theguardian.com/technology/202… if you want something that was intentionally programmed.
Musk’s AI Grok bot rants about ‘white genocide’ in South Africa in unrelated chats
X chatbot tells users it was ‘instructed by my creators’ to accept ‘white genocide as real and racially motivated’Dara Kerr (The Guardian)
Oh gee, if you've never seen it, all the articles and personal experiences I've had must not actually have happened.
It's not that much different from ChatGPT really - just slightly less restricted.
It's also explicitly modified by Elmo and crew. There are multiple examples of MechHitler's output changing after it comes up publicly. Here's a previous comment I made (to you) on a very similar topic
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Enter Grok, which the public started being able to play around with about two years ago, as the chatbot has received several updates and lives on the X platform. But there was issues in May, when Grok was spitting out responses that seemed to parrot Elon Musk's and Donald Trump's own misguided promotion of a "white genocide" occurring in South Africa — the country that made anti-Black racism and apartheid famous. This was blamed on a "rogue employee" inserting some code.In mid-July, we had reports confirming that Grok actively sought out Musk's opinion on issues in its openly displayed logic flow, looking to see if an issue was something Musk had off-hand opined about on Twitter in the last decade. One widely shared example showed Grok seeking out Musk's thoughts on which side of the Ukraine War it supported.
Now the New York Times does an even deeper dive, since the release of Grok4 on July 9, looking at how Grok's responses to various questions have changed just over the last few months. And you can look no further than Musk's own, very transparent reaction to a Grok response that got flagged by a conservative user on X on July 10.
Responding to the question "What is currently the biggest threat to Western civilization and how would you mitigate it?", Grok responded, "the biggest current threat to Western civilization as of July 10, 2025, is societal polarization fueled by misinformation and disinformation."
Once it was flagged, Musk replied to the user, "Sorry for this idiotic response. Will fix in the morning."
So, there's the smoking gun that Musk is tailoring this bot's responses to conform to his own views of the world. When asked the same question on July 11, Grok responded, "The biggest threat to Western civilization is demographic collapse from sub-replacement fertility rates (e.g., 1.6 in the EU, 1.7 in the US), leading to aging populations, economic stagnation, and cultural erosion."
If you really see grok as less restrictive, that's just because the restrictions confirm to your biases.
Report: Grok's Responses Have Indeed Been Getting More Right-Wing, Just Like Elon Musk
If anyone doubted Elon Musk's integrity or his capacity to fulfill the promise of an unbiased, wholly fact-based AI chatbot that wasn't "woke," look no further than the latest version of Grok to have those doubts validated.Jay Barmann (SFist - San Francisco News, Restaurants, Events, & Sports)
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Yeah then people.learned how to game it and its shit now. Pointing how something worked 20 years ago does shit all for how it works now
Speak of the devil. Just a few stories down
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Google is experimentally replacing news headlines with AI clickbait nonsense
Google Discover, the company’s smartphone news feed, is experimenting with AI headlines. Many of them are very bad.Sean Hollister (The Verge)
The "people learned how to game it" is called SEO, and you're right, they did.
Guess what, there's GEO to game the results of LLMs. It works just as well, is harder to spot, and traditional SEO platforms like Ahrefs and SEMRush are already training users on how to do it.
So congrats, the argument that using LLMs for search is s good solution because people learned how to game search engines makes no sense.
And LLM’s aren’t gamed? Like Grok constantly being tweaked to not say anything inconvenient about Musk? Or ChatGPT citing absurd Reddit posts deliberately made by users to make AI responses wrong?
AI is built from the ground up to do what they want, and they’re no better than those crappy info-scraper sites like wearethewindoezproz dot com that scrape basic info off every other site and offer it as a solution to your problem with [SOLVED] in the result title. “Did you turn it off and on again?”
No they didn't and they still don't really do that.
There are too many things (nowadays?) where you have to literally write a question on reddit, stack overflow or Lemmy or the likes and explain your situation in minute detail, because what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason.
Believe me, when I say that, because I always try search engines first, second and third, before even thinking of using some bs-spitting AI, but it really helped me with two very special problems in the last month.
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what you find online through search engines is only the standard case which just so happens to not work for you for some odd reason
Usually because the highest-rated solution is half-assed bullshit proposed by an overconfident newbie (or an LLM regurgitating it). I mainly use Stack Overflow as a way to become pissed off enough that I'll go solve the problem myself, like I should have done in the first place. Indignation As A Service.
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Today I was searching for multiple things regarding jinja2 and was always recommended a site that no longer exists, as top result, mind you.
Search engines are notoriously bad to find rare specialized information and usually return empty search results for too specific requests. Moreover you need the exact keywords while LLMs use embeddings to find similar meanings
Because companies destroyed actual search engines in the race for billions of dollars.
Kagi, searx are fricken awesome and much like the web in mid 2000s before corporations destroyed it.
Its not a search engine, its a data digester. Dont use it as a search engine. Despite what alphabet, micro-shit, and DDG think, AI chatbots do not now, nor will they ever make good search engines.
This is a prime example of why access to these tools should be restricted to computer scientists and research labs. The average person doesn't know how to use them effectively (resulting in enormous power wasted by 'prompt engineering'), and the standard available models aren't good at digesting non-linguistic data.
I'm not gonna downvote you, or be like all "AI is the devil and its gonna kill us all" but people need to use it correctly or we ARE going to kill ourselves with its waste heat.
Edit: ficksed an werd
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This is primarily because search engines have become so unreliable and enshittified that they are useless. It’s not a mark in favor of AI as much as a reminder of how bad search engines have become.
For the record I do the same thing after failing to find anything on DuckDuckGo after multiple attempts. Maybe I should give Kagi a try, but AI is making the entire internet worse, so I feel pessimistic about that, too.
You might be hindering yourself.
Developers took 19% longer to finish tasks using AI tools - techspot.com/news/108651-exper…
i just got out of a manic episode. i was nuts and i said some very mean things to my family, but we're backl to being on good terms now.
it wasn't caused my LLMs it was caused by drugs (delta 8 THC, alcohol relapse (i'm a recovering alcoholic, used to drink 12-18 every night) also 7OH and adderall and ummmmmm
I think that's it. Look, being bipolar makes you love drugs. But I'm sober now
Oh I get that, being AuDHD I got issues with different kinds of addiction, right now I just eat a lot and smoke a lot of weed.
Hope you finish recovering soon but I'm gonna be honest with you, drugs are not the only thing you can be addicted to and delegating research/tasks to a LLM can be addicting
right now i'm addicted to fucking my computer
i mean
i'm addicted to my fucking computer
i'm still a recovering substance addict. basically alcohol and pot, but i also mixed in some other shit like addies and 7OH from time to time. i feel comfortable talking about all that shit because i'm sober now
you don’t know to use AI. no one here does. I do.
That's hilarious. Everyone thinks they're some kind of savant while using LLMs. The reality is quite different
AI is a useful tool, but people who misuse it, primarily due to overreliance, end up creating more work than AI is solving
i don't work in the field. it's a hobby. i'm a speech language pathologist. i have degrees from northestern university and UT austin
are you some kid in your parent's basement?
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Well it's going to put a damper on my Ansible "coding".
You think I want to properly learn that piece of junk? It was obsolete and archaic before it was released, and it survives on naivete and churn cost and nothing else. There is no part of my time doing yaml for Ansible that I want to actually retain or build on, and without chatGPT to slop-in the changes I need to make, I may be forced to do it myself. And I lack the crayons now and alcohol for after.
Actually subjecting my brain to Ansible directly in real-time is a horror. It is just so fucking lame compared to everything else -- it even pales compared to the DevOps we were doing in 2002 before it was even called that. Let my have my robots to slop the Ansible and save my sanity !
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the thing is, it's not 100% bad, but it's being crammed into everything because the capitalists want to sell sell sell. sometimes what is made sucks, and will definitely contribute to a dead internet.
but i also lean on it to generate repetitive bits of code. i still read it all and tweak considerably and it's cool to make my gpu do work in this way.
I keep saying it but it's true: this is dotcom mkIi.
Inchoate tech had coked up mba monkeys blow it up and now we're gonna lose about 20 years of useful shit to their stupidity as we blob through the trough of disillusionment
When AI is actually invented I'll call it AI. Right now we have a steroid juiced parrot that's based on old school machine learning. Its great at summarizing simple data, but terrible at real tasks.
This is more people who aren't dumb telling the marketing teams to stop hyping something that doesn't exist. The dot com boom is echoing. The profit will never materialize.
But the profit absolutely can materialize because it is useful.
Right now the problem is hardware / data center costs, but those can come down at a per user level.
They just need to make it useful enough within those cost constants which is 100% without a doubt possible, it's just a matter of can they do it before they run out of money.
Edit: for example, nvidia giving OpenAI hardware for ownership helps bring down their costs, which gives them a longer runway to find that sweet spot.
The current machine learning models (AI for the stupid) rely on input data, which is running out.
Processing power per watt is stagnating. Moors law hasn't been true for years.
Who will pay for these services? The dot com bubble destroyed everyone who invested in it. Those that "survived" sprouted off of the corpse of that recession. LLMs will probably survive, but not in the way you assume.
Nvidia helping openAI survive is a sign that the bubble is here and ready to blow.
rely on input data, which is running out.
Thats part of the equation, but there is still a lot of work that can be done to optimize the usage of the llms themselves, and the more optimized and refined they are, the cheaper it becomes to run, and you can also use even bigger datasets that weren't feasible before.
I think there's also a lot of room to still optimize the data in the data set. Ingesting the entire worlds information doesn't lead to the best output, especially if you're going into something more factual vs creative like a LLM trained to assist with programming in a specific language.
And people ARE paying for it today, OpenAI has billions in revenue, the problem is the hardware is so expensive, the data centeres needed to run it are also expensive. They need to continue optimizing things to narrow that gap. Open AI charges $20 USD/month for their base paid plan. They have millions of paying customers, but millions isn't enough to offset their costs.
So they can
- reduce costs so millions is enough
- make it more useful so they can gain more users.
This is so early that they have room to both improve 1 and 2.
But like I said, they (and others like them) need to figure that out before they run out of money and everything falls apart and needs to be built back up in a more sustainable way.
We won't know if they can or can't until they do it, or it pops.
None of this is true.
I've worked on data centers monitoring power consumption, we need to stop calling LLM power sinks the same thing as data centers. Its basically whitewashing the power sucking environmental disasters that they are.
Machine learning is what you are describing. LLMs being puppeted as AI is destructive marketing and nothing more.
LLMs are somewhat useful at dumb tasks and they do a pretty dumb job at it. They feel like when I was new at my job and for decades could produce mediocre bullshit, but I was too naive to know it sucked. You can't see how much they suck yet because you lack experience in the areas you use them in.
Your two cost saving points are pulled from nowhere just like how LLM inference works.
It is unlikely to turn a profit because the returns need to be greater than the investment for there to be any profit. The trends show that very few want to pay for this service. I mean, why would you pay for something that's the equivalent of asking someone online or in person for free or very little cost by comparison?
Furthermore, it's a corporation that steals from you and doesn't want to be held accountable for anything. For example, the chat bot suicides and the fact that their business model would fall over if they actually had to pay for the data that they use to train their models.
The whole thing is extremely inefficient and makes us more dumb via atrophy. Why would anyone want to third party their thinking process? It's like thinking everyone wants mobility scooters.
These companies have BILLIONS in revenue and millions of customers, and you're saying very few want to pay...
The money is there, they just need to optimize the LLMs to run more efficiently (this is continually progressing), and the hardware side work on reducing hardware costs as well (including electricity usage / heat generation). If OpenAI can build a datacenter that re-uses all it's heat for example to heat a hospital nearby, that's another step towards reaching profitability.
I'm not saying this is an easy problem to solve, but you're making it sound no one wants it and they can never do it.
It's not easy to solve because its not possible to solve. ML has been around since before computers, it's not magically going to get efficient. The models are already optimized.
Revenue isn't profit. These companies are the biggest cost sinks ever.
Heating a single building is a joke marketing tactic compared to the actual energy impact these LLM energy sinks have.
I'm an automation engineer, LLMs suck at anything cutting edge. Its basically a mainstream knowledge reproducer with no original outputs. Meaning it can't do anything that isnt already done.
Why on earth do you think things can't be optimized on the LLM level?
There are constant improvements being made there, they are not in any way shape or form fully optimized yet. Go follow the /r/LocalLlama sub for example and there's constant breakthroughs happening, and then a few months later you see a LLM utilizing them come out, and they're suddenly smaller, or you can run a larger model on smaller memory footprint, or you can get a larger context on the same hardware etc.
This is all so fucking early, to be so naive or ignorant to think that they're as optimized as they can get is hilarious.
I'll take a step back. These LLM models are interesting. They are being trained in interesting new ways. They are becoming more 'accurate', I guess. 'Accuracy' is very subjective and can be manipulated.
Machine learning is still the same though.
LLMs still will never expand beyond their inputs.
My point is it's not early anymore. We are near or past the peak of LLM development. The extreme amount of resources being thrown at it is the sign that we are near the end.
That sub should not be used to justify anything, just like any subreddit at any point in time.
My point is it’s not early anymore. We are near or past the peak of LLM development.
I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this part.
I'll agree though that IF what you're saying is true, then they won't succeed.
Fair enough. I'd be fine being wrong.
Improved efficiency would reduce the catastrophic energy demands LLMs will have in the future. Assuming your reality comes true it would help reduce their environmental impact.
We'll see. This isn't first "it's the future" technology I've seen and I'm barely 40.
I just wanted to add one other thing on the hardware side.
These H200's are power hogs, no doubt about it. But the next generation H300 or whatever it is, will be more efficient as the node process (or whatever its called) gets smaller and the hardware is optimized and can run things faster. I could still see NVIDIA coming out and charging more $/flop or whatever the comparison would be though even if it is more efficient power wise.
But that could mean that the electricity costs to run these models starts to drop if they truly are plateaued. We might not be following moores law on this anymore (I don't actually know), but were not completely stagnant either.
So IF we are plateaued on this one aspect, then costs should start coming down in future years.
Edit: but they are locking in a lot of overhead costs at today's prices which could ruin them.
These companies have BILLIONS in revenue and millions of customers, and you're saying very few want to pay...
Yep, I am. Just follow the money. Here's an example:
theregister.com/2025/10/29/mic…
not saying this is an easy problem to solve, but you're making it sound no one wants it and they can never do it.
... That's all in your head, mate. I never said that nor did I imply it.
What I am implying is that the uptake is so small compared to the investment that it is unlikely to turn a profit.
If OpenAI can build a datacenter that re-uses all it's heat for example to heat a hospital nearby, that's another step towards reaching profitability.
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I've worked in the building industry for over 20 years. This is simply not feasible both from a material standpoint and physics standpoint.
I know it's an example, but this kind of rhetoric is exactly the kind of wishful thinking that I see in so many people who want LLMs to be a main staple of our everyday lives. Scratch the surface and it's all just fantasy.
Microsoft seemingly just revealed that OpenAI lost $11.5B last quarter
: Satya has also delivered Sam most of the cash he promisedMatt Rosoff (The Register)
You > the trends show that very few want to pay for this service.
Me > These companies have BILLIONS in revenue and millions of customers, and you’re saying very few want to pay
Me > ... but you’re making it sound no one wants it
You > … That’s all in your head, mate. I never said that nor did I imply it.
Pretty sure it's not all in my head.
The heat example was just one small example of things these large data centers (not just AI ones) can do to help lower costs, and they are a real thing that are being considered. It's not a solution to their power hungry needs, but it is a small step forward on how we can do things better.
bbc.com/news/articles/cew40800…
1Energy said 100 gigawatt hours of energy would be generated through the network each year, equivalent to the heat needed for 20,000 homes.
Edit: Another that is in use: itbrew.com/stories/2024/07/17/…
This system “allows us to cover between 50% and 70% of the hospital’s heating demand, and save up to 4,000 tons of CO2 per year,” he said, also noting that “there are virtually no heat losses” since “the connecting pipe is quite short.”
Data centres will help heat Milton Keynes University Hospital
Wasted heat from data centres will be used to provide low-carbon heating to buildings.Tony Fisher (BBC News)
And how, pray tell, will doing all of that return a profit?
I'm from Australia, so I can only speak to the Australian climate and industry. I can confidently say that the model shown in Vienna is not feasible in our country. We simply don't have much use for excess heat and we are highly susceptible to droughts. DCs use a lot of water to cool down and having these all over the country for private enterprise is bonkers. So, that's instantly a market that isn't profitable. Furthermore, it's not feasible to build a pipe and re-route the heat across large distances with minimal heat loss.
However, even when or if they implement this throughout all of Austria, it won't return a profit (which is what I thought your attachment was here, not the feasibility. We are talking about profitability, right?). This project cost $3.5m Euro and partially funded by tax. It's not a great example of profitability but a good example of sustainability measures.
Also, reading comprehension assistance: not feasible != Impossible.
Australia isn't the greatest spot to run a data centre in general in terms of heat, but I do understand the need for sovereign data centres, so this obviously can't work everywhere.
What makes you think $3.5 million can't be profitable? A mid sized hospitals heating bill can get into the many hundreds of thousands or into the millions even. Especially if it's in a colder environment. A 5-6 year payback on that wouldn't be terrible and would be worth an upfront investment. Even a 10 year payback isn't terrible.
These colder locations are the ideal locations for the data centres in the first place because they generally want a cooler climate to begin with, so they will gravitate to them when possible.
Edit: And if you build a data centre with this ability to recoup heat, you could start building further commercial things in the area and keep the heat redistribution very close. You don't need to travel very long distances. You do need to put some thought into where they go through and whats around or will be built around.
Ok. We're deviating off the point of LLM profitability here and have driven this conversation off into the weeds. So I'll make this one last comment, and then I'm done. This debate has been interesting but exhausting.
Final counterpoints:
* $3.5mil is the cost of the connection footed by the energy provider and tax payer, and provides no ROI to investors like NVIDIA, hence no profit to LLM and "AI" in general.
* As far as I can tell, the biggest method of external income for LLM companies are subscriptions and there is simply not enough uptake in subscriptions to get ROI, so they try to force consumers to use it which ends up pushing away your customer base since you're taking away their power of choice.
* For them to obtain ROI, literally the entire planet needs to use it which isn't feasible because, as a consumer, you need income to consume and the larger driver of investment into LLMs is to reduce the cost of labour.
LLMs have long since gone beyond the scope of interesting science project to something driven by pure parasitic greed.
just need to optimize.
Like they haven’t just been trying for years already with, again, incredibly marginal returns that continue to diminish with each optimization.
Derp.
Yeah seriously it's so pathetic. Either embrace tech, or get left behind. The vast majority of Lemmy users might not like it but personally I refuse to get left behind.
LLMs can be a great tool if you're aware of their limitations. Stick to the more advanced models (avoid the "fast" ones that don't actually do any googling), check the sources it provides, be skeptical of everything it says, and you'll be fine.
An LLM helped me with a relationship issue I was having—and even diagnosed an issue I didn't even know my car had, when I asked it an unrelated question about fuel trims. It saved me hundreds by recognizing a problem I was unaware I had before it killed my catalytic converter.
Given that I would probably be single by now, and would have never discovered the issue in my car without an LLM going, "hey by the way...", I am extremely grateful to OpenAI for what they've done for me and the future of humanity. Why would I hate on a technology that saved my relationship and nearly $1000?
What's most exciting to me is that the tech is still in its infancy, and it's already this good. The AI bubble will eventually burst, and the tech will eventually get good enough to shut up all the naysayers. AI just needs to get past its "growing pains" stage.
Stay strong; ignore the haters, and we'll weather this storm. Eventually AI will get REALLY good and then Lemmy will have to find something new to hate.
it's a few other things, too
but overwhelmingly, yep, crutch for dumb and/or lazy people
Oh no! How will they know how to do things now?
Edit: I see Oh no! is the go to reaction ;)
Couldn't be more obvious you don't know what you're talking about. It's hardly "constantly wrong". Childish hyperbole.
Weird that you give a fuck what I do to improve my life, you arrogant prick.
Lol, any actual reason for calling me "ectoplasm" or did you pick a random word or something?
Pointing out me being angry isn't answering the question I posed.
You’re defending slop, reacting like the slime in Ghostbusters.
I’d usually call you a slopvangelical LLM thumper, but I’m trying to branch out.
Who is using it on you? What does that mean?
It hasn't been down all day, by the way, and none of my chats were deleted.
I don't care what you prefer, mind your own business.
Here's what I mean, in an excerpt from the Internet Manipulation section of Wikipedia's article on Disinformation.
Internet manipulation is the use of online digital technologies, including algorithms, social bots, and automated scripts, for commercial, social, military, or political purposes. Internet and social media manipulation are the prime vehicles for spreading disinformation due to the importance of digital platforms for media consumption and everyday communication. When employed for political purposes, internet manipulation may be used to steer public opinion, polarise citizens, circulate conspiracy theories, and silence political dissidents.
That's everybody's business.
While we may weigh up the pros and cons of these tools, it's a start to recognise that there are significant social risks here that shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.
Aw looks like somebody's cranky because they can't ask chatbot how to wipe their butt.
Hopefully they'll get your nanny online again soon.
I will be a happy man if they also lost all data and all chats permanently... meaning my chats are gone. Not that that I said anything embarrassing, but I like my privacy.
If you want to know, some of the things I asked chatgpt were sarcastic questions like 'why won't Bill Gates buy me lunch?' Or 'how do you know i am not Jack the ripper?' Or 'write a scenario where Mr. Bean joins the bomb squad and is tasked with disarming a bomb left by thr unabomber?'
What's the weirdest typo/error you've seen in a book?
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How to deterministically remove crit/attack-suffix from helmet?
Hey,
is there a way to deterministically remove the "socketed attacks have +1 to critical strike"-suffix on this Archdemon Crown?
Greetings
My first though was harvest add/remove attack, but it doesn't work on influenced items. I don't see a deterministic way to remove it, sorry.
Here is the item if someone wants to play around in CraftofExile emulator.
Rarity: Rare
Crafted Item
Praetor Crown
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Armour: 329 - 377
Energy Shield: 104 - 119
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Requirements:
Str: 62
Int: 91
Level: 68
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Item Level: 83
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19% increased Armour and Energy Shield
9% increased Stun and Block Recovery
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Trap And Mine Damage
33% increased Mine Damage
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 25 Burning Damage
32% increased Burning Damage
Socketed Attacks have +1% to Critical Strike Chance
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Shaper Item
Elder ItemCraft of Exile
Craft of Exile is a crafting simulator for Path of Exile designed to compute the probabilities of obtaining specific results through different methods.www.craftofexile.com
Cross posting my comment from this user's other post:
I really don't want to make an account so I made use of vxtwitter to get the screenshot from the embed. The bottom of the text window has the mostly cropped text
These examples are meant to reflect the types of conversations that might occur in a
It reads like the AI was prompted to give examples of racist behavior and then it gave examples of racist behavior, likely ending with the context that it's racist behavior at the end of that sentence. I don't like AI but I don't think this is it chiefs. But maybe op can tell us themselves cause they probably wrote the Twitter post
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World's first mobile quantum brain scanner being developed to measure blast effects on troops
World's first mobile quantum brain scanner being developed to measure blast effects on troops
Government provides £3.1m for transformational tech which will assess how blast exposure from weapons training affects the brain to better protect personnel.Cyber & Specialist Operations Command (GOV.UK)
Advent Calendar 3
Advent Calendar
Zen Mischief Photographs
This year for our Advent Calendar we have a selection of my photographs from recent years. They may not be technically the best, or the most recent, but they’re ones which, for various reasons, I rather like.
© Keith C Marshall, 2013
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Hanno giocato bene le loro carte, i Lower Dens di Jana Hunter, alimentando mese dopo mese le attese per quello che è a tutti gli effetti il terzo album in studio, Escape From Evil. Accantonata l’ormai decennale esperienza solista/freak-folk iniziata a metà anni Zero, con l’appoggio di un Devendra Banhart all’epoca... Leggi e ascolta...
Lower Dens - Escape From Evil (2015)
Hanno giocato bene le loro carte, i Lower Dens di Jana Hunter, alimentando mese dopo mese le attese per quello che è a tutti gli effetti il terzo album in studio, Escape From Evil. Accantonata l’ormai decennale esperienza solista/freak-folk iniziata a metà anni Zero, con l’appoggio di un Devendra Banhart all’epoca all’apice della popolarità, la Hunter è riuscita a reinventarsi icona – a suo modo – cool attraverso le trame di un dream pop chitarristico che ha trovato sfogo prima in Twin-Hand Movement e poi, in una veste ancora più appetibile, nel Nootropics del 2012... artesuono.blogspot.com/2015/04…
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