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Chat Control: EU Council vote is a Green Light for Indiscriminate Mass Surveillance and the End of Right to Communicate Anonymously


Contrary to headlines suggesting the EU has “backed away” from Chat Control, the negotiating mandate endorsed today by EU ambassadors in a close split vote paves the way for a permanent infrastructure of mass surveillance.

While the Council removed the obligation for scanning, the agreed text creates a toxic legal framework that incentivizes US tech giants to scan private communications indiscriminately, introduces mandatory age checks for all internet users, and threatens to exclude teenagers from digital life.


The article is non-paywalled, freely readable on the link --^

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in reply to vas

Remember that the Council is meant to protect and enable trade. They only care about citizens for submitting them to exploitation.

If you discuss "the EU" you have to distinguish between Council and Parliament. The Council has no obligation to act according to the Parliament's wishes. They are not a democracy.

in reply to aev_software

Thanks for your comment. I'm still only learning how legislation in the EU works. However, so far I haven't been able to confirm what you're saying. Could you help if you know? (I assume not only me, but possibly other readers, too)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_…

Here it doesn't say (almost) anything about "trade". Admittedly I've only read 2-3 pages and then used Ctrl+F to search on the rest of the page though.. Is it a de-facto split between the legislative powers of the Council and the Parliament? Where to read about it?

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in reply to vas

Good luck passing that through the Parliament. (Second paragraph of the section about CC 2.0)
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Guinea-Bissau’s President Says He Has Been Deposed. The Opposition Says It’s a Trick.


cross-posted from: lemmy.eco.br/post/18616130

The military announced on Wednesday it had taken over the West African nation. Later, the opposition leader accused the incumbent president of staging the coup d’état to try to retain power.

Gunfire rang out near the presidential palace and national electoral commission headquarters on Wednesday afternoon, prompting confusion across Bissau, the capital.

Then, in a scene that has become familiar during the spate of coup d’états across West Africa in recent years, a military spokesman went on state television surrounded by heavily armed, uniformed men. He announced that they had deposed President Umaro Sissoco Embaló, closed the country’s borders and airspace and suspended the electoral process. He also announced a curfew and declared a state of emergency.

The statement from Mr. N’Tchama came shortly after the opposition candidate, Fernando Dias, made an impassioned speech claiming to have won Sunday’s election, and saying that he was only waiting for the final announcement of the national electoral commission on Thursday.

“We will go out into the streets to say thank you to all the people of Guinea-Bissau for all that they have done,” he told a crowd of supporters.

Mr. Dias is supported by an opposition coalition that includes the country’s largest party, the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde. That party and its leader, Domingos Simões Pereira, a former prime minister, were barred from running in last week’s election.

After the military takeover on Wednesday, Mr. Pereira’s nephew, Edson Pereira, said that his uncle had been arrested and was being held in a prison in Bissau.

After armed clashes broke out in December 2023 between military forces and the national guard, Mr. Embaló, who was out of the country at the time, declared a coup had been attempted against his presidency. Days later, he dissolved Parliament, in which the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde had held the majority.

Before his campaign, Mr. Embaló repeatedly said that even if he did not win, Mr. Pereira should not be allowed to run the nation. Mr. Dias had promised to restore the government that Mr. Embaló dissolved.



Guinea-Bissau’s President Says He Has Been Deposed. The Opposition Says It’s a Trick.


The military announced on Wednesday it had taken over the West African nation. Later, the opposition leader accused the incumbent president of staging the coup d’état to try to retain power.

Gunfire rang out near the presidential palace and national electoral commission headquarters on Wednesday afternoon, prompting confusion across Bissau, the capital.

Then, in a scene that has become familiar during the spate of coup d’états across West Africa in recent years, a military spokesman went on state television surrounded by heavily armed, uniformed men. He announced that they had deposed President Umaro Sissoco Embaló, closed the country’s borders and airspace and suspended the electoral process. He also announced a curfew and declared a state of emergency.

The statement from Mr. N’Tchama came shortly after the opposition candidate, Fernando Dias, made an impassioned speech claiming to have won Sunday’s election, and saying that he was only waiting for the final announcement of the national electoral commission on Thursday.

“We will go out into the streets to say thank you to all the people of Guinea-Bissau for all that they have done,” he told a crowd of supporters.

Mr. Dias is supported by an opposition coalition that includes the country’s largest party, the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde. That party and its leader, Domingos Simões Pereira, a former prime minister, were barred from running in last week’s election.

After the military takeover on Wednesday, Mr. Pereira’s nephew, Edson Pereira, said that his uncle had been arrested and was being held in a prison in Bissau.

After armed clashes broke out in December 2023 between military forces and the national guard, Mr. Embaló, who was out of the country at the time, declared a coup had been attempted against his presidency. Days later, he dissolved Parliament, in which the African Party for the Independence of Guinea and Cape Verde had held the majority.

Before his campaign, Mr. Embaló repeatedly said that even if he did not win, Mr. Pereira should not be allowed to run the nation. Mr. Dias had promised to restore the government that Mr. Embaló dissolved.



https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/26/world/africa/guinea-bissau-coup.html



Britain's young communists are ready for revolution


in reply to huf [he/him]

Ok, so I was in the UK a couple years ago, and while I have some pretty stark disagreements with our Trot friends, it was the trot orgs who were most adamantly pro-trans.

Most UK ML parties are still on the "being queer is bourgeois decadence" thing, in 2025.

JKR will be the Lenin of CPGB-ML before anything else

in reply to SpookyBogMonster

JKR will be the Lenin of CPGB-ML before anything else


funny you should mention that!

::: spoiler CW:Transphobia

:::

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Mexico’s ‘Gen Z Rebellion’ Exposed as Right-Wing Plot


Intent on toppling Mexico’s popular president, local oligarchs and an international right-wing network backed a youth-led anti-corruption uprising,


in reply to geneva_convenience

Is that your one rebuttal to all the comments here? Lol
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in reply to yonderbarn

I already gave plenty of examples but the Blue MAGA mental gymnastics can't be beaten.

in reply to WanderWisley

Overheard a conversation at my college. The one answering was from US.

"Do Europeans celebrate thanksgiving?"

- "Yeah it's in the bible."

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How to skirt websites that block known domains of email forwarding services? [SOLVED]


Solved: Thanks to all who commented, especially those who took the time to respond to my follow-up questions. Your responses were enough to convince me of the value of buying a custom domain in order to keep one's true email address private w/ the added benefit of working on websites that block known domains of temp/forwarding service providers.

Key takeaways:

  • Forwarding services' shared domains are useful for blending in w/ the crowd. (credit to @Cricket@lemmy.zip)
  • Custom domains are handy when you don't care about blending in and you want to use a website that blacklists known domains of disposable/forwarding service providers, including the paid-tier domains.
  • Deciding whether to enable catch-all:
    • Enabled: You can make up new addresses without having to configure the alias manually each time, but it's also easier for spammers to guess valid addresses.
    • Disabled: It's more difficult for spammers to guess valid addresses, but you'll have to configure your aliases manually unless you have regex matching for automatic creation of new aliases. With regex matching for automatic creation of new aliases, disabling catch-all has few if any downsides.
    • Regex matching: Seems to provide the best of all worlds by making it harder for spammers to guess valid addresses without having to configure aliases manually each time.


  • For aliases, including a string of random characters after the company name makes it harder for spammers to guess your other aliases and/or learn where else you have accounts by spamming emails to every $companyname@example.com and seeing which ones bounce back. (credit to @erebion@news.erebion.eu)

Original post:

I've recently signed up for an email forwarding service w/ aliases so that I can keep my true email address private when I sign up for new websites and services. I should clarify that I'm less concerned about concealing my identity as I am about protecting my real email address, identifying who leaked my info when my email address is compromised, and being able to stop the spam by turning off that alias.

While updating my existing profiles to point to aliases instead of my real address, I've hit a snag - some sites (Steam, Slack, etc) won't allow me to update my email address to any known domains from my email forwarding service.

On these sites that block email forwarding addresses, for now I'm either updating my existing email address w/ a plus sign if the website allows it, otherwise I'm just leaving my existing email address unchanged. It's not the end of the world, they already have my real email address, and I can probably go a Very Long Time without needing to check those inboxes anyway, but I'm still miffed that I can't completely migrate my existing accounts to my new scheme.

I've read numerous posts about the benefits of custom domains to enable portability of email service providers, and I'm wondering if custom domains are the answer to these sites that disallow forwarding addresses, but I have questions:

  • How do other people deal with this situation?
  • Do these websites that block known email forwarding domains typically work on a whitelist or blacklist model? If the former (whitelist), then I'm thinking a custom domain will have the same problem, but if the latter (blacklist), then I reckon a custom domain with catchall might work.
  • Particularly owners of custom domains, do you find your custom domain is allowed more often than not or do you run into the same problem?

EDIT: Clarified my objectives.

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in reply to curious_dolphin

I use Proton Pass for this. It creates the alias, which can be paused when not in use, and manages the login. The free tier gives you a handful but the paid tier is unlimited. If you own/buy a domain, you can configure it to be the domain for all of your aliases. For example, you walmart login could be
walmart@curious_dolphin.net
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in reply to Jo Miran

My problem with the own-domain tactic is that it reduces anonymity, since you're most likely the only person using that email domain.

in reply to MolochHorridus

Generally when you lose a war that's what happens. You have to accept the terms dictated by the winner.
in reply to cfgaussian

So Trump lost the war, I’d like to hear him say that. Why else would he be the one to give in to the demands of the aggressor?
in reply to MolochHorridus

It's good that you recognize that this is a proxy war between NATO and Russia which NATO lost.


No, graphene isn't being targeted by the french government.


There's been some posts about Graphene leaving france and accusing the government of targeting them.

This isn't happening. What happened is that le parisien posted an article that presents what french law enforcement think of grapheneOS, which is obviously mostly crap, then present part of graphene's respone, which does in fact include their references to human rights organizations, large tech companies and others using GrapheneOS, unlike what grapheneOS claims. The main flaw with the article is the fact that the author takes what the french law enforcement says at face value, which is not a good move.

If you haven't been following this you may be wondering how this was extrapolated into the government targeting them. Well, it's because government owned news sites also reported on this. This is because le parisien's article got regurgitated by a bunch of other news sites looking for an easy article to get ad revenue from, normal news site behavior. The government news sites are fully editorially independent from the government, which the GrapheneOS lead should know, since that's how the canadian CBC works.

For chat control, that measure isn't supported by the majority of french meps, just the (massively unpopular) head of state and his minority government. No similar law has been passed nationally, in fact, a law that guarantees privacy rights is making it's way through the legislature (tuta article). If chat control passes, it affects several of the countries (germany and belgium, afaik) they moved to as well, anyways.

Graphene's announcement also disparages the other two big privacy roms, both based in france, which is odd and makes me personally think this may have more to do with the visible hatred the project lead has for those projects.

Please tell me what you think, and if I missed anything important, because it really seems like a big nothing-burger to me.

in reply to eldavi

Yes, sorry I was too lazy to provide any sources here are a few (mostly in french sorry). It was called the 8 December case or "L'Affaire du 8 décembre" in french.

Edit:
- archive.is/lemonde.fr/societe/…

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in reply to Sonalder

Except that for the moment, no decision of the judges shows that they have retained the fact of having Linux, Signal, /e/OS or GrapheneOS installed, even in the case of 8 December. And I'm talking about not the investigating judges here, but the decisions of the judges of the court.

These articles speak only of investigating judges, not of conviction.



Trump bars South Africa from 2026 G20 summit in Miami



in reply to eldavi

Maybe OP knew about it but Fous ta cagoule (in French) is the funniest music video ever. The lyrics are just glorious.


Radeon Software for Linux 25.20.3 Released - "Exclusively Open-Source" With RADV


in reply to eldavi

I've just been avoiding nvidia the last couple of times I bought a GPU because they were so goddamn expensive, lol. It is just super convenient that this coincided with me starting to game on Linux.
in reply to st3ph3n

Games used to hold me back also but sometime around 2005, I stopped updating my repetior and now even dirt cheap gpu's have caught up w my needs; my last 2 laptops and desktop had Intel integrated graphics on the motherboard


Ubuntu 26.04 LTS - The Roadmap




KDE Going all-in on a Wayland future


cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39342270

Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.


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in reply to ashx64

The people who are most upset by this use LTS Debian and won't even see the current version of Plasma until 2050
in reply to ashx64

I think the main thing holding Wayland back are older drivers which don't work well with it and impact on things like games. Once its over that hump there isn't much reason for maintainers to suffer two back ends any more.


Maduro: US Imperialists are After Latin America's Strategic Resources


November 18, 2025

I ask him how he interprets the current context of pressure, slander, and threats against Venezuela. As he drives carefully in the gentle Aragua twilight, he tells me:

“They have gone to great lengths to craft a new narrative—that of narco-terrorism—but, at its core, it’s the same thing they’ve always done: create a pretext to kill a hope. Remember, for example, that in 1954, they accused Jacobo Árbenz, the democratically elected President of Guatemala, of being a “communist” because he had implemented a modest agrarian reform. They orchestrated a coup, a military intervention, and overthrew him. Several decades later, they apologized, acknowledging that Árbenz was not a communist and that they had made a mistake…”

“Ten years later, in 1964, in Brazil, they did the same thing to President João Goulart… And they apologized again a few decades later… And in 1965, they did the same thing again in the Dominican Republic with President Juan Bosch. They accused him of being a ‘communist,’ invaded the country with some 20,000 marines and OAS forces. And many years later, they again acknowledged that Juan Bosch was a true democrat and that the invasion was a mistake. And in 1973, the same script in Chile, against President Salvador Allende. And the same belated apologies.

in reply to Peter Link

The Anglos are after the indigenous first nations North American resources as well, so it's no surprise
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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Currently using a Galaxy S8 Active I got almost a decade ago, the quick access and volume buttons fell out over the past two years and have been replaced with wads of sealant but it still works and I'll keep using it till it stops. Fuck the economy.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

No, I meant that genies usually grant 3 wishes. 1 is missing
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Could VPNs Be 'Banned'?


With the UK apparently floating ideas of a VPN ban it's got me worried about the future of anonymity online. Now people have already pointed out that a VPN ban doesn't make sense because of all the legitimate uses of one and wouldn't even be enforceable anyway, but that got me thinking.

What if governments ordered websites (such as social media sites) to block traffic originating from a VPN node? Lots of sites already do this (or restrict your activity if they detect a VPN) to mitigate spam etc. and technically that wouldn't interfere with "legitimate" (in the eyes of the gov) VPN usage like logging onto corporate networks remotely

It's already a pain with so many sites either blocking you from access or making you jump through a million captchas using VPNs now. I'm worried it's about to get a whole lot worse

in reply to freedickpics

To go a little further, I used the example of heroin and machine guns in my other reply, but there are lots of countries where people licensed to use these (or technology that’s similar like oxycontin) are allowed or there exist analogs (like bump stocks or binary triggers) that avoid the law.

Heck, in the us any knucklehead can get on the good boy list for heroin or machine guns they just need to pass a bunch of checks and submit to a series of audits and inspections.

The point of banning vpn use would be to keep people from using the technology to skirt identity laws, not to prevent the use of the technology altogether, so it’s likely any ban would take the form of legal wording that looks like “use of computer networking technology to conceal ones identity or aid or abet or perpetrate any crime is unlawful under this section.”

So again, yes they absolutely can do it and no it wouldn’t mean corporations would suddenly have to turn in all their edge devices.

I’m really surprised that on this instance no one has replied with the “laws are threats made by the dominant social economic class” copypasta. Fake ahh anarchists…

in reply to freedickpics

It's a law. Just words in a document. It doesn't have to be realistic or even enforceable for them to pass a law.

in reply to MelodiousFunk

Why would Russia stop now, when it's near certain that their stated demands will be met either millitarily or via peace concessions?
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in reply to MelodiousFunk

No, I mean saying Russia can just surrender now doesn't actually mean anything. That's like saying oil barons can just stop any time. It isn't a real solution.
in reply to Cowbee [he/they]

"Aggressor packs up and goes home" is about the most meaningful end this three ~~day~~ year operation could have.
in reply to MelodiousFunk

Why would Russia stop now, when it’s near certain that their stated demands will be met either millitarily or via peace concessions?
in reply to MelodiousFunk

This kind of refusal to engage with reality is why liberals are getting their lunch eaten by fascists in the west and communists in the east. You do not have a serious worldview.
in reply to MelodiousFunk

No, and again, that doesn't apply in any way. Russia isn't going to surrender when they are winning the war, it isn't a real option. Either Ukraine and Russia successfully broker a peace deal, or Russia continues advancing at an increasingly rapid pace. That's the reality of the situation, the war is increasingly unpopular in Ukraine and corruption from the Banderites in charge is causing erosion of support.

There isn't a realistic way for Ukraine to win millitarily.

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in reply to MelodiousFunk

Imperialism is when you intervene to stop ethnic cleansing. If China had invaded "Israel" on October 8 of 2023, every bloodthirsty lib would be calling them imperialists.
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How to transfer a lot of storage?


I want to transfer 80 TB of data to another locatio . I already have the drives for it. The idea is to copy everything to it, fly it to the target and use or copy the data on/to the server.

What filesystem would you use and would you use a raid configuration? Currently I lean towards 8 single disk filesystems on the 10 TB drives with ext4, because it is simple. I considered ZFS because of the possiblity to scrub at the target destination and/or pool all drives. But ZFS may not be available at the target.

There is btrfs which should be available everywhere because it is in mainline linux and ZFS is not. But from my knowledge btrfs would require lvm to pool disks together like zfs can do natively.

Pooling the drives would also be a problem if one disk gets lost during transit. If I have everything on 8 single disks at least the remaining data can be used at the target and they only have to wait for the missing data.

I like to read about your opinions or practical experience with similar challanges.

in reply to poinck

I'd use XFS as it's excellent at copying big files of data (7z. img/iso/qcow2, 4K Videos).

For large amounts of smaller files (Like photos, odt, and PDFs), I'd use Ext4.


in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

“The message was basically — you are losing,” one of the sources said, “and you need to accept the deal.”


Are they losing?

For the past three years, the news from Russia has been about young men leaving the country because Putin keeps updating the laws around the draft/conscription to feed his war machine.

I'm sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn't sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.

in reply to kindred

They are very obviously losing right now. Ukraine is suffering from a critical manpower shortage, the west is not able to provide them with weapons, the economic situation in Ukraine is unravelling, and there's a huge political scandal.

Meanwhile, the news from Russia for the past three years has absolutely not been that. Even Ukrainian media admits that kyivindependent.com/bloomberg-…

I guess UK regime propaganda is still trying to pretend otherwise though. Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service it's not clear what basis the Brits have for their bombastic claims.

The reality is that Russian economy is stable and growing, it's able to outproduce the west militarily, and its trade is now oriented towards BRICS. Given the stark difference between Russia and Ukraine in terms of available manpower, resources, and economy, it's pretty clear to anybody who can do grade school math that Russia is going to win the war.

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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service


I wouldn't take that as "given".

And with the new law, draftees are immediately banned from leaving the country.

Those who fail to show up at a recruitment office promptly will soon face a raft of new restrictions related to banking, selling property and even gaining access to a driver's license.

Already before the reform, people who refused orders to serve in the military have faced a possible prison sentence of up to 10 years. (NPR)

As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)


I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.

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in reply to kindred

I wouldn’t take that as “given”.


There is zero evidence for that being true. Meanwhile, the fact that it's happening in Ukraine is very well documented responsiblestatecraft.org/ukra…

I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.


You're confusing the regular draft for the reserves that Russia has had since the soviet times with the war draft here. There was exactly a single time that there was a call up back in 2022.

Finally, you only have to consider the size difference in overall population. Even if there was the same rate of desertion on both sides, then Ukraine would still lose.

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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Your responses have nothing to do with the parts of my comment that you're quoting.

In the first quote (I wouldn’t take that as “given”) I was responding to your claim that Russia wasn't press-ganging citizens into service. I then quoted two articles which themselves cited Russian sources (I'm pretty sure the State Duma is Russian) that said the Russian government was changing the draft rules and imposing severe penalties on people attempting to avoid the draft.

The second quote was pretty straightforward (I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.), so I don't know how you went from that to "confusing regular draft for reserves", but I'll respond to that, too.

I'm not confusing the regular draft for reserves. Both sources explicitly use the terms "draft" and "conscript" to describe the people I'm talking about.

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in reply to kindred

And I directly addressed your claim explaining that there is no evidence of gang pressing happening in Russia, and that you were referring to the regular reserves draft that's been happening long before the war.

I’m not confusing the regular draft for reserves. Both sources explicitly use the terms “draft” and “conscript” to describe the people I’m talking about.


Yes, you are absolutely confusing the draft with the call up to the front line. I'm also guessing that you didn't actually read the article you linked because its says the same thing I'm saying:

The bill’s authors say the measure is intended to ease pressure on military conscription offices and streamline their activities, which includes performing the physicals and assigning conscripts to various military branches.

Even though the bill will make conscription a year-round process, it stipulates that conscripts will enter military service only during a few spring and summer months as before.

All Russian men aged 18-30 currently are obliged to serve in the military for one year, although many avoid the draft by using deferments granted to students, those with chronic illnesses, and for other reasons.


Even your own source is admitting that there is no increase in conscription happening.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

You keep changing the argument you claim I'm making.

Here's the comment, as a reminder.

I called into question your claim that press ganging (coercion into military service) wasn't happening, by citing sources that the Russian government was changing the rules of the draft and imposing severe penalties on people who tried to avoid it.

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in reply to kindred

The sources you cited literally support what I said:

Even though the bill will make conscription a year-round process, it stipulates that conscripts will enter military service only during a few spring and summer months as before.


Do you even understand what the term press ganging means?

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

You've tried to move the goalposts twice now, by:
- Claiming my argument is about a "call up to the front line". (I've said draft/conscription since the beginning.)
- Claiming my argument is that an increase in conscription is happening. (I implied press-ganging was happening, and said nothing about a change in the amount of conscription happening.)

I am and have been ignoring anything you threw out that tried to weasel away from the central argument:

The Russian government is coercing (which is how press-ganging is used to mean in normal conversations; this is not an academic conference) people into military service.

Conscription/the draft already technically meets that definition, but piling on prison sentences, suspending drivers licences, banning leaving the country, and restricting bank transactions all make it clear that Russian men are being coerced into military service.

in reply to kindred

I have not moved the goalposts. My position has been perfectly consistent. You are misusing a loaded term to fabricate a narrative.

Let's be crystal clear since you are struggling with the definition. Press ganging is not a synonym for conscription. It refers to the illegal and forcible impressment of individuals into military service. What that looks like is kidnapping people from streets or their homes outside of any legal framework. That's what you implied is happening in Russia, and it is a blatant falsehood.

What you are describing in Russia is the legal process of conscription, which includes standard penalties for evasion. These penalties like fines, license suspensions, and travel bans are common consequences for dodging a mandatory draft in many nations, including many US allies. To call this press ganging is deliberate sensationalism.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the very phenomenon you mistakenly accuse Russia of is a well documented reality. There have been numerous verified reports of recruiters literally grabbing men off the street and from public transport to forcibly conscript them, often without any paperwork or due process. That is what actual press-ganging looks like. It is happening there, not in Russia.

Your argument tries to blur the line between a legal state run conscription system and outright criminal abduction. They are not the same. The goalposts have not moved. You are just trying to score a point on a field that does not exist in reality. The facts are clear, and your conflation of them is intellectually dishonest.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

That's three times now. We'll add:
- Claiming I'm trying to "fabricate a narrative" as if there's some massive conspiracy.

to the list.

Do you seriously think I'm some part of some government operation to "weave a story"?

I'm a rando on the internet who thinks Russia is coercing men who don't want to be in a war to become soldiers.

Whether they corner them with infrastructural tactics or send armed men in unmarked vans to kidnap them off the street is immaterial.

Whether these tactics are practiced by Russia or by "many nations, including US allies" is immaterial.

It would be press-ganging and coercion if Ukraine did the same thing. It's press-ganging and coercion if the United States does it.

Standing on ceremony behind a dictionary definition and whether government says it's legal is such a weird stance to take when the issue is these people don't want to serve in the military, and the government is coercing them into it.

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in reply to kindred

The only person inventing massive conspiracies in this conversation is you. Now you can add straw man arguments to the growing list of nonsense you are producing.

I think you are nothing more than a troll who argues for the sake of it, without a single honest bone in your body. You are the epitome of a reddit debate bro, substituting sophistry for genuine argument in a pathetic attempt to score imaginary points. You are very transparent.

You keep trying to conflate two entirely separate issues, a sad attempt at an argument I have already dismantled in detail. You have brought forward nothing new and you're just regurgitating the same old drivel here. Take the L and move on.

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in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

I think you are nothing more than a troll who argues for the sake of it, without a single honest bone in your body. You are the epitome of a reddit debate bro


You won't or can't address my argument above, so you switch to personal attacks.

You introduced the word "press-gang" and tried to turn this into an argument about the dictionary definition of the word.

You also tried to retroactively rewrite my argument. (You're not talking about the draft, you're talking about the reserves. You're not talking about the draft, you're talking about "calling up to the front line.")

And you claim that I'm trolling?

My position has been that Russia has been coercing citizens into military service and I've been consistent on that point.

in reply to kindred

Asshole, your "argument" was to just endlessly falsely accuse them of moving the goalpost. I don't know why you reddit shitlib's think that people should have to engage with your "arguments" in good faith after you've blatantly demonstrated you aren't acting in good faith yourself.
in reply to BrainInABox

This thread was a proof that LOL players are the worse people on the planet.
in reply to kindred

I literally addressed your 'argument' in detail, and you just continued to double down on your bullshit. You're a troll, and an artless one at that. You're not fooling anybody here.
in reply to kindred

There is nothing worse than smug redditors who treat the Wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a set of magical incantations to win arguments without actually having any comprehension of what they mean. No he never moved the goalposts, you dishonest asshole.
in reply to kindred

God damn, you gotta stop treating theslappablejerk's videos as rhetorical guides.
in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

I’m also guessing that you didn’t actually read the article you linked because its says the same thing I’m saying:


Articles aren't for reading, they're for headline skimming so you can look like you have sources. If they fail, there's always another one to try, you can even pretend that means evidence is overwhelming!

in reply to kindred

As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)


dude I've been reading about the ukrainians running kidnapping squads grabbing kids off the streets for like two years straight but uh yeah sure it's russia having manpower issues

in reply to LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name]

Whether or not Ukraine has kidnapping squads doesn't mean Russia can't also be having manpower issues.

Both can be true at the same time.

don't like this

in reply to kindred

You can't cite Russian conscription as evidence that Russia is losing and then say that Ukraine also using conscription doesn't matter
in reply to BrainInABox

I didn't say either of those things you're saying.

This is what I said :

I'm sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn't sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.
in reply to kindred

If it's mirrored on both sides, then why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?

What you're doing is actually moving the goal posts, by the way

in reply to BrainInABox

why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?


I was bringing it up as a reason to think the case for Russia winning wasn't a clear slam dunk.

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you're "obviously winning".

And before you make a claim about Ukraine resorting to conscription, too, at no point have I claimed Ukraine was "obviously winning" either.

don't like this

in reply to kindred

Why is that a reason, if that particular factor is a wash for both sides?

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.


Uhuh. So when the Soviets were flattening Berlin they weren't obviously winning? When the US had sunken the entire Japanese Navy and were systemically saturation bombing the Japanese mainland, they weren't obviously winning?

in reply to kindred

I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.


Lol, "because you don't like these extremely biased sources, I quoted some sources with the exact same extreme bias"

in reply to BrainInABox

I usually try to cite multiple sources because one or all may be biased, but it's less likely that multiple sources will misrepresent reality in exactly the same way.

It is possible, but it is less likely.

I quoted all three in my original response, and he only responded negatively to the one based in UK, implying that he considered the other two met some minimum standard of quality.

He also quoted those same sources in his responses to me. If he thought the same way you do, I would have expected him to dismiss them outright, like you are.

in reply to kindred

but it’s less likely that multiple sources will misrepresent reality in exactly the same way.


Not when you're selecting sources that all have the same bias. Like, how many sources are you citing that aren't Western neo-liberal and Zionist aligned? Zero.

implying


So he didn't say that, you're just assuming.

If he thought the same way you do, I would have expected him to dismiss them outright,


Or he would cite them to demonstrate that even media that shares your bias supports his position

in reply to BrainInABox

It's possible, but he didn't say that, and our argument continued without your help.

It is weird that you're white-knighting so hard for him.

Why are you here?

don't like this

in reply to kindred

This isn't your space asshole, I can be here all I like. Why don't you take your incel buzzwords and fuck off back to reddit?
in reply to kindred

the news from Russia has been


According to who? Ukraine?

in reply to BrainInABox

The NPR article I linked above was citing a Russian source.

The AP article was citing Russian legislation, which I assume (and I could be wrong) is public record.

in reply to kindred

And that contains all of the news that has come out of Russia in the last two years? All of it?
in reply to kindred

I got this map from BBC dated 20/11/2025.
in reply to kindred

Many articles about Ukrainian draft dodgers these days too. And Ukrainian conscription ages going wider. Grunts on both sides don't feel like fighting a war for others. But Ukraine has less manpower overall and thus will run out sooner.


Taiwan puts $40 billion toward buying US weapons and building a defense dome


Currently, Taiwan has set an increase in its defense budget to 3.3% of its GDP for 2026, allocating $949.5 billion Taiwan dollars ($31.18 billion). U.S. President Donald Trump has demanded Taiwan raise its defense spending to as much as 10% of GDP, a proportion well above what the U.S. or any of its major allies spend.

Lai had previewed the announcement in an op-ed for The Washington Post on Wednesday, saying the special budget would be used to purchase arms from the U.S. He told reporters Wednesday, however, that the budget has nothing to do with the government’s tariff negotiations with the U.S.

https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-defense-budget-arms-purchases-spending-c1f34ad69a12b9599f4a356abd3b31c4

in reply to NightOwl

If anyone needed more proof that Taiwan is a glorified US military base, here it is lol.
in reply to dogbert

True. But I don't think they have much of a choice. Just a little guy caught between two bullies, China and the USA. Not sure which is better to side with for them. If they give up to China they basically lose their independence.
in reply to falseWhite

They aren’t caught between anything. Taiwan is very much aligned with western imperial countries. It’s basically an island that all the wealthy capitalists ran away to after China imposed economic democracy. They love America and America loves them.
in reply to kindred

They are not thinking of those places, but it is kind of helpful of you to point out other countries where the US empire has repeated the same strategy
in reply to RiverRock

US empire and wealthy capitalists aren't the same thing, although their interests sometimes align.

All the billionaires in Taiwan are Taiwanese.

Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US, have moved to those places, not to Taiwan.

in reply to RiverRock

An intermediary.

A native of a colonised country who acts as the agent of the coloniser.


I don't get the point you're trying to make.

I said the wealthy capitalists went to not!Taiwan because the billionaires in Taiwan were already there.

Who is or is not a comprador has nothing to do with where wealthy capitalists relocate.

in reply to kindred

I don't get the point you're trying to make


Then you're trying very hard not to get it. Try harder, I believe in you👍

in reply to BrainInABox

I was saying that the billionaires were not moving to the island of Taiwan.

You're talking about US Empire, which, as mentioned in my other responses in this thread, is irrelevant to the physical movements of billionaires.

Even if Taiwan declared itself to be US Empire island #76, it would not change the fact that billionaires did not move to the island of Taiwan.

in reply to kindred

I was saying that the billionaires were not moving to the island of Taiwan.


Man, you really are a dishonest little troll aren't you: "oh I was just saying this thing completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Oh, you thought I had a point? Nope, just making random statements for no reason."

Fuck off

in reply to BrainInABox

This was the statement I was responding to:

It’s basically an island that all the wealthy capitalists ran away to after China imposed economic democracy.


Here was my response :

Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US, have moved to [Singapore (or Switzerland, or the UAE)], not to Taiwan.


Where was what I said dishonest or irrelevant?

Edit: reorganized for legibility


They aren’t caught between anything. Taiwan is very much aligned with western imperial countries. It’s basically an island that all the wealthy capitalists ran away to after China imposed economic democracy. They love America and America loves them.

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in reply to kindred

They obviously meant the wealthy capitalists from China I think it's pretty clear that you're playing dumb on purpose.
in reply to BrainInABox

Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US


Are you talking about this part? If so, what I was saying was that billionaires moved to either the US or the three countries I mentioned.

That means the billionaires from China also did not move to Taiwan.

You can also look at the wiki for Taiwan's billionaires. Only one was born in China and not Taiwan (Hong Kong, specifically), and I'm pretty sure he moved to Taiwan way before the events we're taking about in this thread.

in reply to kindred

Lol, I thought you were blocking me, you coward. Felt you needed to get the last word in first?
in reply to falseWhite

Western liberals used to maintain that The West was noble and virtuous in order to maintain it's ongoing domination of the world. Once it became too hard to do that anymore without looking ridiculous, they simply shifted to asserting that all of the West's enemies are just as bad or worse.
in reply to BrainInABox

Rules based world order? Rules for thee, not mee apparently. The Ukraine War is the official end of nuclear non proliferation. Get nukes or get fucked.
in reply to falseWhite

The ROC doesn't want independence, they claim that the mainland belongs to them, essentially they share the same posture, there is one China, it's just a difference of who rules. The bourgeoisie, or the proletariat.
in reply to ghost_laptop

No one should rule. The working class should discard the artifical borders dividing us against ourselves.
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in reply to UltraGiGaGigantic

Eventually, sure. But we're not at a place politically where that is feasible or even desirable.


Zelenskyy faces the biggest corruption scandal of his presidency


On November 10, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) exposed an alleged $110 million corruption scheme at state-owned nuclear company Energoatom. The charges are supported by a fifteen-month wiretap and over seventy searches carried out as part of a major investigation called Operation Midas.

According to NABU officials, the investigation uncovered a criminal enterprise run by Timur Mindich, a film producer and a former business partner of Zelenskyy. Additional suspects include former Minister of Energy and recently appointed Minister of Justice Herman Halushchenko; former Naftogaz CEO and Deputy Prime Minister Oleksii Chernyshov; former Minister of Defense and current National Security and Defense Council member Rustem Umerov; and Ihor Myroniuk, former deputy head of the State Property Fund and former advisor to Halushchenko.

Mindich fled Ukraine the day before his premises were raided and is reportedly now in Israel.

in reply to RiverRock

Must've not looked into it very hard. A single search will reveal to you the same thing a much deeper dive into academic works will.
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in reply to RiverRock

Did you not read or understand this part?

A single search will reveal to you the same thing a much deeper dive into academic works will.


My hard drive keeps clicking like files are being accessed but I'm not doing anything in that filesystem and the indicator light doesn't indicate any usage.


I'm running a NAS on Fedora Server with LUKS encrypted Btrfs hard drives in a USB-C multi-bay enclosure. I noticed that one or both of the hard drives keep making the same sound as when I'm lightly reading or writing files from it (the closest it sounds like to my ear is something like copying to a Wi-Fi connected device where there is a bottleneck somewhere other than the hard drive, so it has bursts of activity a few times a second between idle time). Using iostat -x on my two main hard drives, I do see periodic activity every 10 or so seconds but I'm definitely not accessing anything in them, and the activity indicators on the USB enclosure are still and not blinking to indicate activity.

Should I be worried about this? To my paranoid mind it feels like something is slowly reading my files with some exploit to bypass the indicator light to fly under the radar. But I just did a clean install of Fedora Server 43 (over the previous installation which was 42) and I never installed anything outside of the official package manager and Docker registry. I've also never had this issue on Fedora Server 42 as far as I know, and the NAS is on my desk so I feel like I would have heard it ages ago if it was something frequent. There's also no unexpected network activity on the Cockpit dashboard that would indicate that files are being uploaded, though I feel like if some malware can suppress the indicator light on a USB enclosure it can probably also hide its network traffic.

Is there something standard it's doing that could explain this? Like does Fedora 43 more frequently tell the drive's controller itself to do things like defragmentation or bit rot prevention when it's idle? That's the only explanation I can think of where the drive is clicking but no data is actually being transferred that would trigger the indicator light, since the operation would be entirely within the drive itself.

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in reply to HiddenLayer555

If it sounds like data access and not a failure, be at peace my brother, hard drives are at least as complicated as your computer and just do things sometimes.
in reply to HiddenLayer555

You might want to check out fatrace. It can tell you exactly which processes access the given filesystem.

in reply to 🏴حمید پیام عباسی🏴

Is there a third option where it's like "Nobody's really been planning anything for centuries and everything's just continuing and everyone knows there ought to be something different but nobody can agree on what that thing ought to be"?


What dystopian surveillance things from your country you can't escape?


Or have to go through great lengths to escape.

In my country you can't buy any medicine without showing your ID... I mean, you technically can, but if you are registered they "give" like an 80% discount, so everyone thinks it's a great deal, not realizing that's the normal price, they are just pretending you can still go and buy a simple cold medicine without sharing your ID, phone, email, and street address with the drug store and whoever they decide to sell that information to, you just have to pay absurdly more. Yeah, you can lie about all the other information, but not really about your ID number. Probably soon, to get the "discount", you are going to have to verify your email or phone number as well.

in reply to PiraHxCx

ID verification and travel logging on public transport. it started out as an optional "convenience". soon it became the only possibility other than buying an expensive ticket every time you board
in reply to WhyJiffie

FWIW in Brussels there are anonymous public transport cards. You can top up your card but it's not attached to your name or ID. If you lose it though, it's like cash, you can safely assume nobody will give it back because they can't. Most people I know do not use them but maybe they do not even know it's an option.
in reply to utopiah

that sounds good, it would be much better to have that here
in reply to PiraHxCx

Sidetracked a bit but last week I was in the UK. I tried to visit a website (not porn actually, just private messaging on BlueSky) and it asked to verify my age. Initially I thought "Meh... OK... let's see the process" which then lead to installing an app maybe (I'm not sure tbh as I was in rush). Clearly I didn't want to do it because the DM was potentially urgent (scheduling to meet someone ASAP) ... so what did I do? I switched from my browser to my VPN, connected from Austria, refreshed... no age verification. It took me a grand total of 5s to bypass the system.

TL;DR: maybe you can actually escape even though you are convinced you can't.


in reply to Spectre

While I agree with the sentiment I also think that it's best for society if everyone contributes while realizing that some are able to contribute more than others. Essentially no freeloaders.
in reply to Spectre

(Oh wow. No one replied with this quote yet...)

“We should do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. It is a fact today that one in ten thousand of us can make a technological breakthrough capable of supporting all the rest. The youth of today are absolutely right in recognizing this nonsense of earning a living. We keep inventing jobs because of this false idea that everybody has to be employed at some kind of drudgery because, according to Malthusian Darwinian theory he must justify his right to exist. So we have inspectors of inspectors and people making instruments for inspectors to inspect inspectors. The true business of people should be to go back to school and think about whatever it was they were thinking about before somebody came along and told them they had to earn a living.”
― Buckminster Fuller


in reply to booly

By this logic fat shaming is acceptable? Some people naturally have faster or slower metabolisms. But anybody can have healthy or unhealthy body weights. Some just have to work harder at it. So if somebody has a naturally fast metabolism but chooses to eat and exercise like Trump does, it's ok to make fun of them for their weight?
in reply to Xoriff

By this logic fat shaming is acceptable?


I mean, yeah, in many contexts. For example, when a professional athlete shows up to training camp after putting on a bunch of fat in the off-season, that's fair game. It's literally their job to maintain their bodies and if we're allowed to criticize their job performance then we're certainly allowed to criticize their maintenance of their physical fitness. There's obviously a clear parallel here between that and other public figures where their intelligence may be fair game for criticism.

More broadly, when people are engaged in unhealthy habits of any kind (from smoking to sleep deprivation to overwork/stress to terrible relationship decisions to unhealthy eating/exercise habits), I think it's fair game for loved ones to point that out and encourage steering their lives back towards healthier choices. I'm not advocating that we go and make fun of strangers, the range of acceptable conversation in our day to day relationships is going to be different.

No, that's not OK to mock people's medical conditions, and it's always a good idea to exercise some empathy and humility to know that things might not always be as easy for others as for yourself. But I've never been on board with the idea that fatness is somehow off limits, in large part that I don't believe that most people's fatness is inherently innate. Correlations between moving to or away from high obesity areas (most notably between countries or between significant changes of altitude, but also apparent in moves between city centers and suburban car-based communities) make that obvious that fatness is often environmental.

TLDR: I make fun of Trump's fat ass all the time.



Amazon in discussions with USPS about future relationship


Amazon.com (AMZN.O) said Thursday the e-commerce giant is in discussions with the U.S. Postal Service about its future relationship and considering its options before its current contract expires next year.

The Washington Post reported Thursday new Postmaster General David Steiner plans to hold a reverse auction in early 2026 that might create more competition within the Post Office for Amazon's business by offering access to postal facilities to the highest bidder, rather than directly to Amazon. It would make the company compete with national retail brands and regional shipping firms.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/amazon-explores-cutting-ties-with-usps-washington-post-reports-2025-12-04/



People’s Republic of China (PRC) State-Sponsored Actors Use BRICKSTORM Malware Across Public Sector and Information Technology Systems


The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) is aware of ongoing intrusions by People’s Republic of China (PRC) state-sponsored cyber actors using BRICKSTORM malware for long-term persistence on victim systems. BRICKSTORM is a sophisticated backdoor for VMware vSphere and Windows environments. Victim organizations are primarily in the Government Services and Facilities and Information Technology Sectors. BRICKSTORM enables cyber threat actors to maintain stealthy access and provides capabilities for initiation, persistence, and secure command and control. The malware employs advanced functionality, including multiple layers of encryption (e.g., HTTPS, WebSockets, and nested TLS), DNS-over-HTTPS (DoH) to conceal communications, and a SOCKS proxy to facilitate lateral movement and tunneling within victim networks. BRICKSTORM also incorporates long-term persistence mechanisms, such as a self-monitoring function that automatically reinstalls or restarts the malware if disrupted, ensuring its continued operation.

https://www.cisa.gov/news-events/alerts/2025/12/04/prc-state-sponsored-actors-use-brickstorm-malware-across-public-sector-and-information-technology



In comedy of errors, men accused of wiping gov databases turned to an AI tool


Two sibling contractors convicted a decade ago for hacking into US State Department have once again been charged, this time for a comically hamfisted attempt to steal and destroy government records just minutes after being fired from their contractor jobs.

The Department of Justice on Thursday said that Muneeb Akhter and Sohaib Akhter, both 34, of Alexandria, Virginia, deleted databases and documents maintained and belonging to three government agencies. The brothers were federal contractors working for an undisclosed company in Washington, DC, that provides software and services to 45 US agencies. Prosecutors said the men coordinated the crimes and began carrying them out just minutes after being fired.

in reply to Tony Bark

Why the F is a single contractor able to delete an entire DB without any kind of sign off by a manager for that operation, unless they were and to sign off for each other.

Imagine if a junior messed up the command? Every system I've worked on has had these controls mainly for the latter issue, by the former also shouldn't have been possible.


in reply to Billegh

That's what I suspected. So rather than fighting HDMI, we need to buy display port instead.
in reply to fum

Have you looked at the HDMI Forum member list and board of directors?
- hdmiforum.org/members/
- hdmiforum.org/about/hdmi-forum…

It includes pretty much every manufacturer who makes decisions which ports to include on their devices. They have no interest in DisplayPort adoption.





EU's Top Court Just Made It Impossible to Run a User-Generated Platform Legally





'A Human Rights Disaster': Report Details Torture and Chaos at 'Alligator Alcatraz'


cross-posted from: news.abolish.capital/post/1159…

Two immigration detention centers in Florida have gained notoriety for inhumane conditions since Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, in close alignment with President Donald Trump's anti-immigrant agenda, has rapidly scaled up mass detention in the state, and a report released Thursday detailed how human rights violations at the two facilities amount to torture in some cases.

Amnesty International published the report, *Torture and Enforced Di**sappearances in the Sunshine State*, with a focus on Krome North Service Processing Center and the Everglades Detention Facility, also known by its nickname, "Alligator Alcatraz."

As Common Dreams has reported, many of the people detained at the facilities have been arbitrarily rounded up by immigration agents, with a majority of the roughly 1,000 people being held at Alligator Alcatraz having been convicted of no criminal offense as of July.

Amnesty's report described unsanitary conditions, with fecal matter overflowing from toilets in detainees' sleeping areas, authorities granting only limited access to showers, and poor quality food and water.

Some of the treatment amounts to torture, the report says, including Alligator Alcatraz's use of "the box"—a 2x2 foot "cage-like structure people are put in as punishment—which inmates have been placed in for hours at a time with their hands and feet attached to restraints on the ground.

— (@)

“These despicable and nauseating conditions at Alligator Alcatraz reflect a pattern of deliberate neglect designed to dehumanize and punish those detained there,” said Amy Fischer, director of refugee and migrant rights with Amnesty International USA. “This is unreal—where’s the oversight?”

At Krome, detainees have been arbitrarily placed in prolonged solitary confinement—defined as lasting longer than 15 days—which is prohibited under international law.

"The use of prolonged solitary confinement at Krome and the use of the ‘box’ at 'Alligator Alcatraz' amount to torture or other ill-treatment," said Amnesty.

The report elevates concerns raised in September by immigrant rights advocates regarding the lack of federal oversight at Alligator Alcatraz, with nearly 1,000 men detained at the prison having been "administratively disappeared"—their names absent from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement's detainee locator system.

"The absence of registration or tracking mechanisms for those detained at Alligator Alcatraz facilitates incommunicado detention and constitutes enforced disappearances when the whereabouts of a person being detained there is denied to their family, and they are not allowed to contact their lawyer," said Amnesty.

The state of Florida has not publicly confirmed the number of people detained at Alligator Alcatraz.

One man told Amnesty, "My lawyers tried to visit me, but they weren’t let in. They were told that they had to fill out a form, which they did, but nothing happened. I was never able to speak with them confidentially.”

At Krome, detainees described overcrowding, medical neglect, and abuse by guards when Amnesty researchers visited in September. ICE has constructed tents and other semi-permanent structures to hold more people than the facility is designed to detain.

The Amnesty researchers were given a tour of relatively extensive medical facilities at Krome, including a dialysis clinic, dental clinic, and a "state-of-the-art" mental health facility—but despite these resources, detainees described officials' failure to provide medical treatment and delays in health assessments. Four people—Ramesh Amechand, Genry Ruiz Guillen, Maksym Chernyak, and Isidro Pérez—have died this year while detained at Krome.

"It’s a disaster if you want to see the doctor," one man told Amnesty. "I once asked to see the doctor, and it took two weeks for me to finally see him. It’s very slow.”

Researchers with the organization witnessed "a guard violently slam a metal flap of a door to a solitary confinement room against a man’s injured hand," and people reported being "hit and punched" by officials at Krome.

In line with the Trump administration, DeSantis and Republican state lawmakers have sought to make Florida "a testing ground for abusive immigration enforcement policies," said Amnesty, with the state deputizing local law enforcement to make immigration arrests and issuing 34 no-bid contracts totaling more than $360 million for the operation of Alligator Alcatraz—while slashing spending on healthcare, food assistance, and disaster relief. Florida has increased the number of people in immigration detention by more than 50% since Trump took office in January.

The organization called on Florida to redirect detention funding toward healthcare, housing, and other public spending, and to ban "shackling, solitary confinement, and punitive outdoor confinement" in line with international standards.

"At the federal level, the US government must end its cruel mass immigration detention machine, stop the criminalization of migration, and bar the use of state-owned facilities for federal immigration custody," said Amnesty.

Fischer emphasized that the chaotic and abusive conditions Amnesty observed at Alligator Alcatraz and Krome "are not isolated."

"They represent a deliberate system of cruelty designed to punish people seeking to build a new life in the US,” said Fischer. “We must stop detaining our immigrant community members and people seeking safety and instead work toward humane, rights-respecting migration policies.”


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