Judge hints Vizio TV buyers may have rights to source code licensed under GPL— Tentative ruling signals a potential win for SFC’s copyleft enforcement push
Judge hints Vizio TV buyers may have rights to source code licensed under GPL
: Tentative ruling signals a potential win for SFC’s copyleft enforcement pushThomas Claburn (The Register)
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Trains cancelled over fake bridge collapse image
Trains cancelled over fake bridge collapse image
Rail services were cancelled after a 'hoax' picture of a damaged bridge appeared on social mediaZoe Toase (BBC News)
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Utah lawmakers are planning to convene to move the filing deadline for congressional candidates. It will give them more time to appeal the ruling that created a democratic seat.
Utah lawmaker shares clues on 2026 election-related special session to address redistricting ruling
Republican lawmakers and Governor Spencer Cox are currently planning a special session for Tuesday, December 9, and one member of Senate leadership is offering more clues about what could be on the agenda.Lindsay Aerts (ABC4 Utah)
Judge temporarily blocks Justice Department’s use of evidence in dismissed Comey case
A federal judge on Saturday temporarily locked down the Justice Department’s access to some evidence used in its criminal case against former FBI Director James Comey, just as the Trump administration prepares to seek a new indictment after the dismissal of previous charges early last week.
The judge’s order sets up a fast-moving emergency court proceeding over this week that could exclude key pieces of evidence from any future proceeding against Comey, potentially limiting what prosecutors may present to a grand jury after his previous case was dismissed for different reasons.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/07/politics/judge-blocks-justice-dept-evidence-comey-hnk
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The new media weapons of war
The new media weapons of war
Open access // by Benoît Bréville (Le Monde diplomatique - English edition, December 2025)Le Monde diplomatique
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Lawmakers propose sweeping bill against Muslim Brotherhood after Trump letdown
The US House of Representatives’ Foreign Affairs Committee voted on Wednesday to advance a bill that would designate all groups affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood "terrorist organisations".
The bill passed the committee with bipartisan support, with Democrats Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, Greg Stanton, Jared Moskowitz, Jim Costa, George Latimer, and Brad Schneider joining all the Republicans.
To become law, the bill needs to pass the full House of Representatives and the Senate.
The House Foreign Affairs Committee is led by staunch Israel supporter Brian Mast. The Florida Congressman lost both his legs in Afghanistan after stepping on an improvised explosive device. He later volunteered to serve in the Israeli military and often wears an Israeli army uniform inside Congress.
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Why Does A.I. Write Like … That?
Actually decent article from the New York Crimes on AI generated text.
Globular springtail. More pictures in body [OC]
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39841217
This springtail was about 1mm long. Lens: Laowa 25mm f/2.8 Ultra Macro 2.5-5X. two of the photos are focus stacked.
Grizzly Attack Injures 11 In Bella Coola
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Breaking News:- 11 People Injured in Bella Coola. A grizzly bear attack schoolchildren and teachers. Prompting an intense community-wide search for the stillGovvacancy
How Israel avoided Eurovision ouster and the diplomatic push that changed the vote
Israel secured its place in the 2026 Eurovision Song Contest only after an intensive, months-long diplomatic campaign that unfolded largely behind the scenes, Israeli officials said Thursday, describing a coordinated effort involving KAN executives, government advisers and the President’s Residence to prevent the country’s expulsion.
A senior EBU official, speaking anonymously because they were not authorized to comment publicly, told ynet the organization now faces “a major challenge,” pointing to a wave of cancellations and reputational damage.
Herzog praised the Israeli delegation for what officials described as a painstaking diplomatic effort. “Israel deserves to be represented on every stage,” he said, adding that the decision reflected “solidarity and cooperation” among those who defended Israel’s participation.
How Israel avoided Eurovision ouster and the diplomatic push that changed the vote
Israel’s delegation mounted an intensive lobbying effort in Geneva, backed by a special team formed by President Herzog, as the EBU advanced new rules critics said targeted IsraelRan Boker (ynetglobal)
My Saint Bernard Stole the Toy Drive
So today was the annual Toy Lift at the Ohio Valley Mall, which basically means a bunch of us show up in the freezing cold to prove we’re still decent humans who can do something other than complain on the internet. And because life is a cosmic joke with a dark sense of humor, I brought Jersey. Yes, my 150-pound Saint Bernard dressed like an elf who lost a bet to a lumberjack. She strutted through that parking lot like she owned the whole rescue operation, and honestly, she kind of did. Kids were losing their minds, adults were taking photos like she was some kind of canine celebrity, and I was just there trying not to slip on the ice and eat pavement in front of the sheriff’s department.
At one point I’m standing there talking to a FedEx driver who looks like he walked straight out of a beard-oil commercial, and Jersey decides to flop dramatically onto the asphalt like a Victorian woman fainting on a couch. Meanwhile, the Chick-fil-A cow strolls over, looking like it escaped from a holiday fever dream. Jersey gives it this expression like, “I’m not paid enough to engage with mascots,” and honestly, same. Somehow this turns into a full photo-op with firefighters, sheriff’s deputies, utility crews, and random mall stragglers. My dog had more range than a Hollywood actor and more patience than anyone working retail in December.
By the end of the day, my toes were numb, my caffeine buzz was fading, and Jersey was still prancing around like she was running for office. But we did it. We showed up, froze our butts off, and helped collect toys so some kids have a better Christmas. And yeah, I’ll complain about everything because it’s my calling in life, but doing something good with my giant goofball of a dog? I’ll take that chaos any day.
Tech-tinkering geocacher who questions everything and dodges people on a purpose. Introverted agnostic, punk at heart, and a self-taught dev who learned things the hard way because nothing else ever sticks.
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She doesn't seem to be a nice person anyway.
Joel Coen & Ethan Coen – „Fargo“ (1996)
Der absolut perfekte Film zur Jahreszeit. Ein kalter, klarer Kristall. Und ein früher Höhepunkt, der die Handschrift seiner Regisseure nachhaltig definiert hat. Ich bin da einfach ein Fan. Deshalb sehen Sie es mir bitte nach, wenn ich diesen Film einfach absurd feiern möchte, für das, was er immer noch ist. Ein Geniestreich von Joel Coen & Ethan Coen und ein frühes Weihnachtsgeschenk in der Mediathek. (ARTE, Wh.)
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ARTE, the European culture TV channel, free and on demand
Magazine shows, concerts, documentaries, and more: the European culture channel's programmes available to stream free of charge on arte.tv.ARTE
Ich glaub da war der server mal kurz down? Bekam bis eben garnix, nun wieder da..
Allerdings fargo konkret nicht, vermutlich rechtebedingt.
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Apparent coup attempt in Benin, govt claims army has situation 'under control'
cross-posted from: lemmy.eco.br/post/18878447
A group of soldiers on Sunday appeared on Benin's state television claiming to have removed President Patrice Talon from office and dissolved all state institutions. Talon's office, meanwhile, said that loyalist forces had managed to get the situation "under control".
TIL: Active sort is the New Comments of PieFed
Currently getting familiar with PieFed as my new main platform after using Lemmy for more than 2 years.
I was missing the New Comments filter from Lemmy that shows you posts that had recent comments.
After some digging on Codeberg, I found this issue and found out that the Active sort on PieFed shows you posts with recent comments.
tl;dr New Comments on Lemmy is Active on PieFed
"New comments" filter
Hello everyone, Opening a dedicate issue from the discussion on https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/142 In a nutshell, would it be possible to have a "New comments" filter on PieFed? Lemmy does it already, and that's a feature I use a lot t…Codeberg.org
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From the Lemmy docs:
Active (default): Calculates a rank based on the score and time of the latest comment, with decay over time
La UK en 2027 okazos en Aŭstralio
La Estraro de Universala Esperanto-Asocio decidis, ke la 112-a Universala Kongreso de Esperanto en 2027 okazos en Melburno, Aŭstralio.
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S Carey - Supermoon (2015)
Sean Carey, batterista improvvisamente scopertosi compositore, si è visto assalire da un’orda di critici, pronti a smantellare qualsiasi suo tentativo creativo, ma smessi i panni del songwriter e abbracciati quelli dell’impressionista sonoro, con “Range Of Light” ha trovato finalmente il coraggio di uscire dall’ombra di Bon Iver, ridefinendo il suo ruolo di outsider... Leggi e ascolta...
S Carey - Supermoon (2015)
Sean Carey, batterista improvvisamente scopertosi compositore, si è visto assalire da un’orda di critici, pronti a smantellare qualsiasi suo tentativo creativo, ma smessi i panni del songwriter e abbracciati quelli dell’impressionista sonoro, con “Range Of Light” ha trovato finalmente il coraggio di uscire dall’ombra di Bon Iver, ridefinendo il suo ruolo di outsider. Sarà per il tono austero frutto dei sui studi classici, o per quella tendenza al descrittivo quasi pittorico degli arrangiamenti, S. Carey resta un musicista per pochi eletti o per anime pronte a cedere alle emozioni più sotterranee e delicate, quelle prive di qualsiasi risvolto sociale o intellettuale... artesuono.blogspot.com/2015/03…
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di Gianfranco Marmoro Sean Carey, batterista improvvisamente scopertosi compositore, si è visto assalire da un’orda di critici, pronti ...Silvano Bottaro (Blogger)
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Everyone you will ever meet knows something you don’t.
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Woman Hailed as Hero for Smashing Man's Meta Smart Glasses on Subway
A New York subway rider has accused a woman of breaking his Meta smart glasses. She was later hailed as a hero.
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Woman Hailed as Hero for Smashing Man's Meta Smart Glasses on Subway
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A New York subway rider has accused a woman of breaking his Meta smart glasses. She was later hailed as a hero.
Woman Hailed as Hero for Smashing Man's Meta Smart Glasses on Subway
A New York subway rider has accused a woman of breaking his Meta smart glasses. She was later hailed as a hero.
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Keep talking with US, Turkey’s Erdogan tells Venezuela’s Maduro » Borneo Bulletin Online
I got my work printed.
It wasn’t cheap, but goddammit photography is magical when it doesn’t glow and is bigger than a phone.
I love this very much.
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BRICS Film Festival In Fortaleza Shows How Global South Cinema Is Quietly Rewiring Influence
- Free BRICS film festival in Fortaleza turns a cultural event into real soft power.
- Brazil uses its BRICS presidency to market itself as a pragmatic, business-friendly creative hub.
- Films and panels bypass traditional Western gatekeepers and build direct ties among emerging-market industries.
BRICS Film Festival In Fortaleza Shows How Global South Cinema
Key PointsFree BRICS film festival in Fortaleza turns a cultural event into real soft power.Brazil uses its BRICS presidencyAdele Cardin (The Rio Times)
Optimus is now in its early release program and available to approved customers.
Optimus is now in its early release program and available to approved customers.
Musk had said at the start of 2025 that the company would build at least 5,000 robots this year, but The Information reported in July that production totaled only a few hundred units through the first eight months.
Musk has set a target of 5,000 to 10,000 units in 2025 and 50,000 to 100,000 in 2026. Enrollment is open, but capacity is limited. I already secured early access with the Optimus Exclusive Card. Anyone can secured there's also.
Russia's gold reserves hit historical high of over 310 bln USD
Russia's gold reserves hit historical high of over 310 bln USD
Russia's gold reserves hit historical high of over 310 bln USD-english.news.cn
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Russia’s Central Bank Starts Selling Physical Gold From Reserves
Russia’s Central Bank has for the first time begun selling physical gold from its reserves as part of Finance Ministry operations to fund the state budget, the Bank said on Wednesday.The Moscow Times
Mirage 2000 is old. Like, 1980s vintage.
Modern ones are Rafale and EF Typhon. Those are completely made in France or Europe respectively.
Gripen E is mostly made in Sweden and Europe. But the engine is made in USA by GE.
US could depose Zelensky – ex-Ukrainian PM
US could depose Zelensky – ex-Ukrainian PM
The US could depose Vladimir Zelensky should he obstruct Washington’s peace efforts, ex-Ukrainian Prime Minister Nikolay Azarov has claimedRT
Geohot: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
Tldr: he wants a non-upgradeable laptop that is maxed out from day one. I'd want a bit more upgrade path than he does, but he has some interesting thoughts.
Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels Apple’s quality is degrading. I spend 10 hours a day on my laptop and would spend any amount of money within reason for a better one. However, everything comes with tradeoffs.the singularity is nearer
Two or one PGP key when sending via addy.io?
I want to use PGP in Addy.io so I can at least encrypt the subjects (full encryption strips HTML) before it sends onto my receipt address @customdomain.tld in mailbox.
I also want to encrypt everything received to mailbox (encryption at rest, but not zero knowledge)
I'll won't use the mailbox web app and will use the private key(s) in my mail client.
Should I use one key for both services, or two keys?
I know both services could make a copy before they encrypt with the key, but I'm ok with thst risk. I also know about proton and simple login, but I'm not a fan of proton at this stage.
A followup. I might want others to send an encrypted email to name@customdomain.tld hosted at Addy.io
Should I make an individual public key linked to the email address I give the sender?
Although new to PGP I understand the basics of i, and that a key can have any email address. I'm just not sure what's best practice in this setup.
International Court of Justice ready to assess Kiev's crimes — Russian Foreign Ministry
International Court of Justice ready to assess Kiev's crimes — Russian Foreign Ministry
The West's hopes of using "legal weapons" against Russia have once again failed, the ministry saidTASS
The International Court of Justice upheld Russia’s position & accepted its counterclaims against Ukraine for hearing under the 1948 Convention on the Prevention & Punishment of Crime of Genocide.
All objections raised by Kiev have been dismissed.
All the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs is saying is that the International Court of Justice is going to look into Russia's counterclaims.
These counterclaims were filed on 18 November of last year (2024) according to both the International Court of Justice and the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
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Expensive repairs are making it impossible for people to maintain the vehicles they already own. Simple fixes that used to take minutes now cost thousands or force you back to the dealer.
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
Belly of the Beast video channel hosted on PeerTube.wtf
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/39882721
Belly of the Beast video channel hosted on PeerTube.wtf
is now caught up with the collection on YouTube. From now on, new #videos from YouTube will be quickly loaded to #PeerTube as well. [The previous Cuddly.Tube channel will be taken down soon.]URL: peertube.wtf/c/cuba/_botb/_vid…
Also significant is the expansion of playlists. BotB produces a lot of videos, and it is sometimes difficult to find what you are looking for. I spent some time going through the collection and adding playlists.
If you set up a login on PeerTube.wtf, you could also develop and save your own private playlists. But logins are not necessary to browse videos on PeerTube.wtf.
One playlist that will probably get a lot of use is Cuba and #Palestine, which contains 17 videos.
When you get a chance, please check them out.
#LetCubaLive #EndTheEmbargo #Solidarity #FreePalestine
#politics #BellyOfTheBeast #Cuba #Gaza
Belly of the Beast video channel hosted on PeerTube.wtf
Belly of the Beast video channel hosted on PeerTube.wtf
is now caught up with the collection on YouTube. From now on, new #videos from YouTube will be quickly loaded to #PeerTube as well. [The previous Cuddly.Tube channel will be taken down soon.]URL: peertube.wtf/c/cuba/_botb/_vid…
Also significant is the expansion of playlists. BotB produces a lot of videos, and it is sometimes difficult to find what you are looking for. I spent some time going through the collection and adding playlists.
If you set up a login on PeerTube.wtf, you could also develop and save your own private playlists. But logins are not necessary to browse videos on PeerTube.wtf.
One playlist that will probably get a lot of use is Cuba and #Palestine, which contains 17 videos.
When you get a chance, please check them out.
#LetCubaLive #EndTheEmbargo #Solidarity #FreePalestine
#politics #BellyOfTheBeast #Cuba #Gaza
Geohot: Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
Bikeshedding, or why I want to build a laptop
I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels Apple’s quality is degrading. I spend 10 hours a day on my laptop and would spend any amount of money within reason for a better one. However, everything comes with tradeoffs.the singularity is nearer
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Sounds absolutely stupid... and yet my (gaming) desktop (model CORSAIR ONE i180) remains untouched after nearly 6 years. I still play indies to AAA to VR with it. I still work with it, specifically VR prototyping, so dev.
If I were to give it away or use as a self-hosted server with GPU used on e.g Immich or video transcoding it would still do pretty well.
So...IMHO it's not a bad take but damn I remembered I paid a LOT of money back then. As other pointed out if you can afford it, sure. If you are not a professional then probably not.
Honduras Plunges Into Post-Election Turmoil as Electoral Official Alleges “Monumental Fraud”
José Luis Granados Ceja
Dec 06, 2025
Days removed from Sunday’s presidential vote, and still without a clear winner, Honduras’s post-election crisis became more contentious after a member of the country’s electoral authority denounced “monumental electoral fraud” on Thursday evening.Marlon Ochoa, a representative for the Libre Party on the three-member National Electoral Council (CNE), alleged coordinated and deliberate electoral fraud carried out by the other council members, Cossette Alejandra López-Osorio of the National Party and Ana Paola Hall of the Liberal Party.
Honduras Plunges Into Post-Election Turmoil as Electoral Official Alleges “Monumental Fraud”
A member of Honduras’s electoral authority says deliberate manipulation and internal sabotage compromised the general election vote—complicating a razor-thin race marred by U.S. interference.José Luis Granados Ceja (Drop Site News)
For context:
Libre is a third party that was formed in 2011. They're a coalition of leftist groups, and are democratic socialists.
In 2012 and 2013, at least 18 of their pre-candidates, candidates and staff were murdered.
In 2013, they lost the almost certainly fraudulent presidential election to the right-wing National Party candidate - Juan Orlando Hernández Alvarado, the narcotics trafficker who was just pardoned by Trump.
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in reply to MagicShel • • •My guess is the same thing as "critics say [x]". The journalist has an obvious opinion but isn't allowed by their head of redaction to put it in, so to maintain the illusion of NeutTraLITy™©® they find a strawman to hold that opinion for them.
I guess now they don't even need to find a tweet with 3 likes to present a convenient quote from "critics" or "the public" or "internet commenters" or "sources", they can just ask ChatGPT to generate it for them. Either way any redaction where that kind of shit flies is not doing serious journalism.
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in reply to MagicShel • • •It is implied in the article that the chatbot was able to point out details about the image that the reporter either could not immediately recognize without some kind of outside help or did not bother looking for.
So, the chatbot added making the reporter notice something on the photo in a few seconds that would have taken several minutes for the reporter to notice without aid of technology.
Riskable
in reply to alexsantee • • •It's not a shame. Have you tried this? Try it now! It only takes a minute.
Test a bunch of images against ChatGPT, Gemini, and Claude. Ask it if the image was AI-generated. I think you'll be surprised.
Gemini is the current king of that sort of image analysis but the others should do well too.
What do you think the experts use? LOL! They're going to run an image through the same exact process that the chatbots would use plus some additional steps if they didn't find anything obvious on the first pass.
ohulancutash
in reply to alexsantee • • •Did they though? They mentioned a journalist ran it through a chat bot. They also mention it was verified by a reporter on the ground.
It’s like criticising a weather report because the reporter looked outside to see if it was raining, when they also consulted the simulation forecasting.
MagicShel
in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •What the actual fuck? You couldn't spare someone to just go look at the fucking thing rather than asking ChatGPT to spin you a tale? What are we even doing here, BBC?
So they did. Why are we talking about ChatGPT then? You could just leave that part out. It's useless. Obviously a fake photo has been manipulated. Why bother asking?
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in reply to MagicShel • • •Devils advocate, AI might be an agent that detects tapering with a NLP frontend.
Not all AI is LLMs.
MagicShel
in reply to Railcar8095 • • •A "chatbot" is not a specialized AI.
(I feel like maybe I need to put this boilerplate in every comment about AI, but I'd hate that.) I'm not against AI or even chatbots. They have their uses. This is not using them appropriately.
Railcar8095
in reply to MagicShel • • •A chatbot can be the user facing side of a specialized agent.
That's actually how original change bots were. Siri didn't know how to get the weather, it was able to classify the question as a weather question, parse time and location and which APIs to call on those cases.
MagicShel
in reply to Railcar8095 • • •Okay I get you're playing devil's advocate here, but set that aside for a moment. Is it more likely that BBC has a specialized chatbot that orchestrates expert APIs including for analyzing photos, or that the reporter asked ChatGPT? Even in the unlikely event I'm wrong, what is the message to the audience? That ChatGPT can investigate just as well as BBC. Which may well be the case, but it oughtn't be.
My second point still stands. If you sent someone to look at the thing and it's fine, I can tell you the photo is fake or manipulated without even looking at the damn thing.
Railcar8095
in reply to MagicShel • • •It's not like BBC is a single person with no skill other than a driving license and at least one functional eye.
Hell, they don't even need to go, just call the local services.
For me it's most likely that they have a specialized tool than an LLM detecting correctly tampering with the photo.
But if you say it's unlikely you're wrong, then I must be wrong I guess.
MagicShel
in reply to Railcar8095 • • •What about this part?
Either it's irresponsible to use ChatGPT to analyze the photo or it's irresponsible to present to the reader that chatbots can do the job. Particularly when they've done the investigation the proper way.
Deliberate or not, they are encouraging Facebook conspiracy debates by people who lead AI to tell them a photo is fake and think that's just as valid as BBC reporting.
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in reply to MagicShel • • •I don't think it's irresponsible to suggest to readers that they can use an AI chatbot to examine any given image to see if it was AI-generated. Even the lowest-performing multi-model chatbots (e.g. Grok and ChatGPT) can do that pretty effectively.
Also: Why stop at one? Try a whole bunch! Especially if you're a reporter working for the BBC!
It's not like they give an answer, "yes: Definitely fake" or "no: Definitely real." They will analyze the image and give you some information about it such as tell-tale signs that an image could have been faked.
But why speculate? Try it right fucking now: Ask ChatGPT or Gemini (the current king at such things BTW... For the next month at least hahaha) if any given image is fake. It only takes a minute or two to test it out with a bunch of images!
Then come back and tell us that's irresponsible with some screenshots demonstrating why.
MagicShel
in reply to Riskable • • •I don't need to do that. And what's more, it wouldn't be any kind of proof because I can bias the results just by how I phrase the query. I've been using AI for 6 years and use it on a near-daily basis. I'm very familiar with what it can do and what it can't.
Between bias and randomness, you will have images that are evaluated as both fake and real at different times to different people. What use is that?
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in reply to MagicShel • • •If the article were written 10 years ago I would’ve just assumed they had used something like:
fotoforensics.com/
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in reply to MagicShel • • •ChatGPT is a fronted for specialized modules.
If you e.g. ask it to do maths, it will not do it via LLM but run it through a maths module.
I don't know for a fact whether it has a photo analysis module, but I'd be surprised if it didn't.
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in reply to BanMe • • •afaik, there actually aren't any reliable tools for this.
the highest accuracy rate I've seen reported for "AI detectors" is somewhere around 60%; barely better than a random guess...
edit: i think that way for text/LLM, to be fair.
kinda doubt images are much better though...happy to hear otherwise, if there are better ones!
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in reply to rockerface🇺🇦 • • •exactly!
using a "detector" is how (not all, but a lot of) AIs (LLMs, GenAI) are trained:
have one AI that's a "student", and one that's a "teacher" and pit them against one another until the student fools the teacher nearly 100% of the time. this is what's usually called "training" an AI.
one can do very funny things with this tech!
for anyone that wants to see this process in action, here's a great example:
Benn Jorda: Breaking The Creepy AI in Police Cameras
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in reply to 9bananas • • •deep learning method in which two neural networks compete with each other in a game, learning to generate new data with the same statistics as the training set
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)SLVRDRGN
in reply to 9bananas • • •Someone commented a reply which I thought worthy of highlighting:
"I need privacy, not because my actions are questionable, but because your judgement and intentions are."
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in reply to MagicShel • • •I tried the image of this real actual road collapse: tv2.no/nyheter/innenriks/60-me…
I told ChatGPT it was fake and asked it to explain why. It assured me I was a special boy asking valid questions and helpfully made up some claims.
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in reply to Deestan • • •God damn I hate this tool.
Thanks for posting this, great example
plantfanatic
in reply to Deestan • • •Wait, you’re surprised it did what you asked of it?
There’s a massive difference between asking if something is fake, and telling it it is and asking why.
A person would make the same type of guesses and explanations if given the same task.
All this is showing is, you and ALOT of other people just don’t know enough about AI to be able to have a conversation about it.
It even says “suggests” in it, it’s making no claim that it’s real or fake. The lack of basic comprehension is the issue here.
sem
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in reply to sem • • •Why would it have to? It and the person doing the task already knows to do any task put in front of it. It’s one of a hundred photos for all it and the person knows.
You are extending context and instructions that doesn’t exist. The situation would be, both are doing whatever task is presented to them. A human asking would fail and be removed. They failed order number one.
You could also setup a situation where the ai and human were both capable of asking. The ai won’t do what it’s not asked, that’s the comprehension lacking.
sem
in reply to plantfanatic • • •plantfanatic
in reply to sem • • •It’s not a conversation tool when you present it with a specific task….
Do you not understand even the basic premise of how ai works?
sem
in reply to plantfanatic • • •plantfanatic
in reply to sem • • •Then you are making up you own conversation instead of following the thread?
The person presented a specific task to an AI, where does a chatbot come in? You seem to be confused about what Ai is, and that’s what I pointed out, thanks for making it clear.
sem
in reply to plantfanatic • • •plantfanatic
in reply to sem • • •Seriously? A chatbot is one function of an ai, not the other way around. So when you give the ai a different task or set of instructions, it’s no longer the chatbot anymore, it’s whatever function that’s needed for that task.
I weep for humanity if you’re any indication of the general education on ai….
If you ask it to create an image, are you seriously expecting it to have a conversation and point out where you messed up? That’s not how any of this works lmfao. “Hey I need to point out that ducks don’t have scales, and the sky isn’t green.” No it does what it’s asked. But now suddenly it’s different? Why?
sem
in reply to plantfanatic • • •plantfanatic
in reply to sem • • •Yes I’ve already addressed your asinine view.
Deestan
in reply to plantfanatic • • •No. Stop making things up to complain about. Or at least leave me out of it.
plantfanatic
in reply to Deestan • • •Then what are doing? Complaining it did exactly what you instructed it to do?
What else did you expect?
I get circle jerking against ai is hip and fun, but this isn’t even one of the valid errors it makes. This is just pure human error lmfao.
WhyJiffie
in reply to plantfanatic • • •plantfanatic
in reply to WhyJiffie • • •But they didn’t ask it a question… They specifically told it the image was fake and explain why. That’s not a question, that’s a task.
Clearly (as you so incorrectly pointed out a question….)The lack of basic reading comprehension being shown here exactly explains the issue perfectly.
It’s not people relying on it, it’s people using it for stuff it’s not meant for!
Weslee
in reply to plantfanatic • • •I think if a person were asked to do the same they would actually look at the image and make genuine remarks, look at the points it has highlighted, the boxes are placed around random points and the references to those boxes are unrelated (ie. yellow talks about branches when there are no branches near the yellow box, red talks about bent guardrail when the red box on the guardrail is of an undamaged section)
It has just made up points that "sound correct", anyone actually looking at this can tell there is no intelligence behind this
plantfanatic
in reply to Weslee • • •Yet that wasn’t the point they even made! Lmfao nice reaching there.
Those would be the same type of points a human would make to accomplish the task.
You seem to be ignoring the facts. It was told the image was fake, and told to explain why. Even a human that knows it’s real would still do what was presented to it.
The person told the ai a very specific thing to do, with not room for variance, it wasn’t even stated as a question, they made a demand and any human in the same position would act the same way. If you’re expecting to have to tell a human a 100 times that “yes the image is real, can you do the task presented” is more efficient and better then it being done?
Now you could also present the task as both being able to question it, the ai would follow instructions better.
Back to situation one, while with the human you would be constantly interrupted, is that a good employee or subject? Or one you would immediately replace as it can’t even follow basic instructions? Ai or human, you would point to do the task at hand, yes critical thinking is important, but not for this stupid task. Stop applying instructions and context that never existed in the first place. In a one for one example, the Ai would question too, if you can’t understand this, you shouldn’t be commenting on Ai.
Ai sucks, but don’t ignore reality to make your asinine point.
Wren
in reply to MagicShel • • •My best guess is SEO. Journalism that mentions ChatGPT gets more hits. It might be they did use a specialist or specialized software and the editor was like "Say it was ChatGPT, otherwise people get confused, and we get more views. No one's going to fact check whether or not someone used ChatGPT."
That's just my wild, somewhat informed speculation.
Honytawk
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in reply to ronigami • • •Trainguyrom
in reply to ronigami • • •For an rail network that runs 24/7 they're going to have crews specifically to wake up should there be a problem on the busiest sections of mainline as this hoax indicated there were. That's a significant amount of dollars burned if they close the line due to a citizen reporting heavy damage to the bridge, and just waiting until 8am on the next business day to actually look at anything.
I strongly suspect what happened was they woke up their on-call inspectors (or scrambled an inspector who worked nights, which a rail network may very well have) informed them of photos circulating showing significant structural damage to this 150 year old viaduct, so they roll up and see the exact same viaduct in the exact same shape it's been in for their entire life and call up their boss and say "oy you wakin me up for this shiv? The bridge is bloody fine! Check your sauces mate!" (And after reporting that it was a hoax probably went and did a more thorough inspection to make sure their bases were covered)
ohulancutash
in reply to leftzero • • •mavu
in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •WTF?
Doesn't the fucking BBC have at least 1 or 2 experts for spotting fakes? RAN THROUGH AN AI CHATBOT?? SERIOUSLY??
Blackmist
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in reply to mavu • • •People need to get that with the proliferation of AI the only way to build credibility is not by using it for trust but to go the exact opposite way: Grab your shoes and go places. Make notes. Take images.
As AI permeates the digital space - a process that is unlikely to be reversed - everything that's human will need to get - figuratively speaking - analogue again.
helpImTrappedOnline
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in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •For anyone outside the UK, the bridge in the picture is carrying the West Coast Mainline (WCML).
The UK basically has two major routes between Edinburgh and Glasgow (where most people live in Scotland) and London, the East Coast Mainline and the West Coast Mainline. They also connect several major cities and regions.
The person who posted this basically claimed that a bridge on one of the UK's busiest intercity rail routes had started to collapse, which is not something you say lightly. It's like saying all of New York's airports had shut down because of three co-incidental sinkholes.
SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •Rhoeri
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in reply to SocialMediaRefugee • • •[鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui]
in reply to SocialMediaRefugee • • •Disagree. Without Section 230 (or equivalent laws of their respective jurisdictions) your Fediverse instance would be forced to moderate even harder in fear of legal action. I mean, who even decides what "AI deception" is? your average lemmy.world mod, an unpaid volunteer?
It's a threat to free speech.
9488fcea02a9
in reply to [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] • • •Lumisal
in reply to [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] • • •Just make the law so it only affects things with x-amount of millions of users or x-percent of the population number minimum. You could even have regulation tiers toed to amount of active users, so those over the billion mark are regulated the strictest, like Facebook.
That'll leave smaller networks, forums, and businesses alone while finally giving some actually needed regulations to the large corporations messing with things.
[鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui]
in reply to Lumisal • • •How high is your proposed number?
Why is Big = Bad?
Proton have over 100 million users.
Do we fine Proton AG for a bunch of shitheads abusing their platform and sending malicious email? How do they detect it if its encrypted? Force them to backdoor the encryption?
Tad Lispy
in reply to [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] • • •Proton is not a social medium. As to "how high", the lawmakers have to decide on that, hopefully after some research and public consultations. It's not an unprecedented problem.
Another criterion might be revenue. If a company monetises users attention and makes above certain amount, put extra moderation requirements on them.
Dozzi92
in reply to [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] • • •Lumisal
in reply to [鳳凰院 凶真 Hououin Kyouma]|[alt: 黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui] • • •Proton isn't social media.
If you can't understand why big = bad in terms of the dissemination of misinformation, then clearly we're already at an impass on further discussion of possible numbers and usage of statistics and other variables in determining potential regulations.
GamingChairModel
in reply to Lumisal • • •I don't think it'd be that simple.
Any given website URL could go viral at any moment. In the old days, that might look like a DDoS that brings down the site (aka the slashdot effect or hug of death), but these days many small sites are hosted on infrastructure that is protected against unexpectedly high traffic.
So if someone hosts deceptive content on their server and it can be viewed by billions, there would be a disconnect between a website's reach and its accountability (to paraphrase Spider-Man's Uncle Ben).
Lumisal
in reply to GamingChairModel • • •I agree it's not that simple, but it's just a proposed possible beginning to a solution. We could refine it further and then give the vet refined idea as a charter for a lawyer to them draft up as a proper proposal that could then be present to a relative governmental body to consider.
But few people like to put in that work. Even politicians don't - that's why corporations get so much of what they want - they do that and pay people to do that for them.
That said, view count isn't the same as membership. This solution wouldn't be perfect.
But it would be better than nothing at all, especially now with the advent of AI turning the firehouse of lies into the tsunami of lies. Currently one side only grows stronger in their opportunity for causing havoc and mischief while the other, quite literally, does nothing and sometimes advocates for doing nothing. You could say it's a reflection of the tolerance paradox that we're seeing today.
phutatorius
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in reply to Dozzi92 • • •lives are worth more than the dysfunction caused by the delay in services.
the only thing this did was to weaken the resolution of leadership when a real disaster happens.
the next time information like this comes forward, be it real or fake, it will cause a delayed reaction which will ultimately cost lives.
entwine
in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •This is terrifying. Does the BBC not have anyone on the team that understands why this does not, and will never work?
deathbird
in reply to fantawurstwasser • • •AI creating jobs by requiring more human intervention for validation of previously reliable forms of information?
Okay cool, I'm here for it.