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I would like to use Bluesky. They've done a bunch of seriously interesting technical work on moderation and ranking that I truly admire, and I've got lots of friends there who really enjoy it.

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My guess? The entire federation promise is just a big fat lie to try to lure people into the trap, and always was.

I don't expect WotC to *actually* follow through on their promise to dual-license the 3.0 and 3.5 SRDs as CC-BY at this point either, even though they brought it back up as a topic a few months ago. Heck, they probably lost the original .rtf files when they deleted the 3.5 Archive back in early 2022.

I assume both Bluesky's and WotC's promises are just mirages.

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On Bluesky, moving your PDS moves everything, including your posts

Moving also doesn’t rely on AppViews being online

The piece feels a lot more severe towards Bluesky than it is towards Mastodon, and I think this discrepancy significantly diminishes its impact (even though it’s overall a good piece that makes a lot of important points)

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Agreed, I thought Cory's claim that on Mastodon all you need to do is "spend five minutes moving your account over" is very far from reality.

For most people, setting up a new profile, exporting and importing the multiple CSV files, and then doing the Move takes noticeably longer than five minutes. Also even once you do that, you lose your DMs as well as your posting history, and any notifications if people reply to your old hosts. And most people lose some followers too.

Don't get me wrong, it's still a lot better than nothing. Then again it's certainly far from painless. In fact I was really struck by how Cory's point that

"Any system where users can leave without pain is a system whose owners have high switching costs and whose users have none. "


applies in this situation: Mastodon gGmbH is the owner of mastodon.social (which is now the default for new signups), benefits from the high switching costs, and so has no incentive to improve the situation by making migration easier and/or better.

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Worth remembering (and I think this was his point) that Facebook and Twitter also once did a huge amount of groundbreaking work relating to moderation and preventing the spread of disinformation.