Remember the first time you used Google search? It was like magic. After years of progressively worsening search quality from Altavista and Yahoo, Google was literally stunning, a gateway to the very best things on the internet.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Today, Google has a 90% search market-share. They got it the hard way: they cheated. Google spends tens of billions of dollars on payola in order to ensure that they are the default search engine behind *every* search box you encounter on every device, every service and every website:
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Pluralistic: Google’s enshittification memos (03 Oct 2023) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
pluralistic.netCory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Not coincidentally, Google's search is getting progressively, monotonically worse. It is a cesspool of botshit, spam, scams, and nonsense. Important resources that I never bothered to bookmark because I could find them with a quick Google search no longer show up in the first *ten* screens of results:
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Pluralistic: Google reneged on the monopolistic bargain; The Bezzle excerpt (Part IV) (21 Feb 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
pluralistic.netCory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Even after all that payola, Google is wildly profitable. So profitable that they were able to do a *$80B* stock buyback. Months later, Google fired 12,000 tech workers. Essentially, Google is saying that they don't need to spend money on quality, because we're all locked into using Google search. It's cheaper to buy the default search box everywhere in the world than it is to make a product that is so good that even if we tried another search engine, we'd still prefer Google.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •This is enshittification. Google is shifting value away from end users (searchers) and business customers (advertisers, publishers and merchants) to itself:
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And here's the thing: there are search engines out there that are *so good* that if you just try them, you'll get that same feeling you got the first time you tried Google.
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Pluralistic: You can’t shop your way out of a monopoly (05 Mar 2024) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow
pluralistic.netCory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •When I was in Tucson last month on my book-tour for my new novel *The Bezzle*, I crashed with my pals @pnh and @tnh. I've know them since I was a teenager (Patrick is my editor).
We were sitting in his living room on our laptops - just like old times! - and Patrick asked me if I'd tried Kagi, a new search-engine.
Teresa chimed in, extolling the advanced search features, the "lenses" that surfaced specific kinds of resources on the web.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •I hadn't even heard of Kagi, but the Nielsen Haydens are among the most effective researchers I know - both in their professional editorial lives and in their many obsessive hobbies. If it was good enough for them...
I tried it. It was *magic*.
No, seriously. All those things Google couldn't find anymore? Top of the search pile. Queries that generated *pages* of spam in Google results? Fucking *pristine* on Kagi - the right answers, over and over again.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •That was *before* I started playing with Kagi's lenses and other bells and whistles, which elevated the search experience from "magic" to *sorcerous*.
The catch is that Kagi costs money - after 100 queries, they want you to cough up $10/month ($14 for a couple or $20 for a family with up to six accounts, and some kid-specific features):
kagi.com/settings?p=billing_pl…
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •I immediately bought a family plan. I've been using it for a month. I've basically stopped using Google search altogether.
Kagi just let me get a lot more done, and I assumed that they were some kind of wildly capitalized startup that was running their own crawl and and their own data-centers. But this morning, I read @jasonkoebler's @404mediaco report on his own experiences using it:
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Friendship Ended With GOOGLE Now KAGI Is My Best Friend
Jason Koebler (404 Media)Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Koebler's piece contained a key detail that I'd somehow missed:
> When you search on Kagi, the service makes a series of “anonymized API calls to traditional search indexes like Google, Yandex, Mojeek, and Brave,” as well as a handful of other specialized search engines, Wikimedia Commons, Flickr, etc. Kagi then combines this with its own web index and news index (for news searches) to build the results pages that you see.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •So, essentially, you are getting some mix of Google search results combined with results from other indexes.
In other words: *Kagi is a heavily customized, anonymized front-end to Google*.
The implications of this are *stunning*. It means that Google's enshittified search-results are a *choice*.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Those ad-strewn, sub-Altavista, spam-drowned search pages are *a feature*, not a bug. Google *prefers* those results to Kagi, because Google makes more money out of shit than they would out of delivering a good product:
theverge.com/2024/4/2/24117976…
No *wonder* Google spends a whole-ass Twitter *every year* to make sure you never try a rival search engine.
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Nilay Patel (The Verge)Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Bottom line: they ran the numbers and figured out their most profitable course of action is to enshittify their flagship product and bribe their "competitors" like Apple and Samsung so that you never try another search engine and have another one of those *magic* moments that sent all those Jeeves-askin' Yahooers to Google a quarter-century ago.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •One of my favorite TV comedy bits is Lily Tomlin as Ernestine the AT&T operator; Tomlin would do these pitches for the Bell System and end every ad with "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company":
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Speaking of TV comedy: this week saw FTC chair Lina Khan appear on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. It was *amazing*:
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Lina Khan – FTC Chair on Amazon Antitrust Lawsuit & AI Oversight | The Daily Show
YouTubeCory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •The coverage of Khan's appearance has focused on Stewart's revelation that when he was doing a show on Apple TV, the company prohibited him from interviewing her (presumably because of her hostility to tech monopolies):
thebignewsletter.com/p/apple-g…
But for me, the big moment came when Khan described tech monopolists as "too big to care."
What a phrase!
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Matt Stoller (BIG by Matt Stoller)Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Since the subprime crisis, we're all familiar with businesses being "too big to fail" and "too big to jail." But "too big to *care*?" Oof, that got me *right in the feels*.
Because that's what it feels like to use enshittified Google. That's what it feels like to discover that Kagi - the good search engine - is mostly Google with the weights adjusted to serve users, not shareholders.
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Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Google used to care. They cared because they were worried about competitors and regulators. They cared because their workers *made* them care:
vox.com/future-perfect/2019/4/…
Google doesn't care anymore. They don't have to. They're the search company.
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Exclusive: Google cancels AI ethics board in response to outcry
Kelsey Piper (Vox)Cory Doctorow
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •I'm touring my new, nationally bestselling novel *The Bezzle*! Catch me in Boston with Randall "XKCD" Munroe (Apr 11), then Providence (Apr 12) and beyond!
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Paul Walker
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •I’m not entirely sure it’s fair to describe Kagi as “mostly Google” - we don’t know what the weighting is of the different engines they query under the hood.
But the rest of it, yes, totally agree. I haven’t used Google regularly for ages; every time I try it I’m surprised how much worse it’s gotten.
JoeA
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Julien Barnoin
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •The implications of Kagi heavily relying on Google may be stunning, but it's also quite worrying isn't it?
I'm tempted to try Kagi and wouldn't mind paying, but I would hope that this strategy is a stepping stone to becoming truly independent. If they ever grow big enough to compete or inconvenience Google, I'm sure they can just cut them off or mess with them in some way. There's no way this setup can be the long term solution to our search needs.
Edward Sargisson
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Greg Sinnott
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •When I think about the downfall of Google I’m reminded of this blog post from 2008 googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/0…, back when Google prided themselves on a simple uncluttered homepage. Oh how the mighty have fallen from our grace and risen to immense capitalistic heights.
P.S. I had to use DuckDuckGo to find this blogpost, Google served me tons of useless results.
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Carsten Agger
in reply to Cory Doctorow • • •Interestingly, I'm not experiencing quite as bad results with Google as you describe. Usually, it still works OK, even if yes, strangely uncritical stuff started turning up when searching for reviews.
It *might* be because I'm in a non-English-speaking country in Europe... The enshittification may not have reached us yet.
Might also be topic? I search for a lot of free software/Python/math related stuff, so not a lot of pretexts for selling stuff.
Jerome
in reply to Carsten Agger • • •Carsten Agger
in reply to Jerome • • •Fun fact: Currently I'm in the UK, and Google search results are *much* worse here than in DK. They seem *much* more enshittified. Like, I'm searching for tech stuff and am bombarded with pages selling clothes and shoes.