While we don't promote non-#FOSS apps, we can salute #Brave for setting up their own #FDroid repository for #BraveBrowser. @brave how about a fully FOSS browser in f-droid.org next? ๐
How to add? Follow: brave.com/blog/f-droid/
Official Brave F-Droid repository now available
Our new officially-supported repository allows users of the F-Droid client to install the browser and receive automatic updates without requiring Google Play.Brave Software
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Feu d'jais ๐ฅ
in reply to F-Droid • • •congrats for the repo.
Fuck off for the homophobic bastard and for the cryptocurrency. Even if it was FOSS, promoting products of those kind of people is not ethical. We want free software but we also want our software to be free from hate speech and scams boiling our planet. ๐
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in reply to F-Droid • • •Akseli โ
in reply to F-Droid • • •Total Sonic Media
in reply to F-Droid • • •elgregor
in reply to Total Sonic Media • • •@TotalSonic "Brave seems to be the only Android browser that strongly resists fingerprinting."
Let me introduce the Tor Browser. @torproject
Total Sonic Media
in reply to elgregor • • •t3rminus
in reply to Total Sonic Media • • •@TotalSonic @elgregor @torproject You know those tests are run by a Brave employee, right? They can claim impartiality, but itโs kind of hard to be truly impartial when you work at one of the companies.
Best avoid that site altogether, even when it supports your point.
Jonas
in reply to F-Droid • • •codl
in reply to F-Droid • • •KateYagi
in reply to F-Droid • • •oarnd
in reply to F-Droid • • •Vivaldi Browser | Powerful, Personal and Private web browser
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in reply to F-Droid • • •Kit Rhett Aultman
in reply to F-Droid • • •CatSalad๐๐ฅ (D.Burch)
in reply to F-Droid • • •Angelika
in reply to F-Droid • • •Tejas ๐ฎ๐ณ
in reply to F-Droid • • •F-Droid
in reply to Tejas ๐ฎ๐ณ • • •Dunbar's Number
in reply to F-Droid • • •Avi
in reply to F-Droid • • •morgan
in reply to F-Droid • • •Fish Id Wardrobe
in reply to F-Droid • • •every act is a political act. even failure to act is saying you are okay with this project and everything it stands for: homophobia, ai slop.
There is no neutrality. you are making a political statement, whether you meant to or not. is it one you are comfortable with?
kainisenni
in reply to F-Droid • • •Yeah... You should really reconsider promoting Brave of all things.
It's all flavours of yikes combined into one.
Eeeee
in reply to F-Droid • • •Equinox
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in reply to F-Droid • • •@brave
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in reply to F-Droid • • •you are a stain on the foss community for even mentioning brave, we can not and will not salute anyone blatantly opposed to equality and privacy
do something worthwhile rather than promoting garbage
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in reply to F-Droid • • •Underfaker
in reply to F-Droid • • •F-Droid
in reply to Underfaker • • •Underfaker
in reply to F-Droid • • •I'm confused. Checking the related ticket I can See the status is still 'open' and the security problems remain unsolved.
gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroidserverโฆ
APK Signing Block considerations (#1056) ยท Issues ยท F-Droid / fdroidserver ยท GitLab
GitLabF-Droid
in reply to Underfaker • • •Underfaker
in reply to F-Droid • • •Siph
in reply to F-Droid • • •binchicken
in reply to F-Droid • • •Uilliam Mac แแแแแแแ
in reply to F-Droid • • •Ah lads come on, you'll be called Fash-droid.
Have you not read up on the state of the person behind that? independent.ie/business/technoโฆ
Mozilla CEO under pressure to resign over homophobic beliefs
Matthew Sparkes (Irish Independent)An๊รณin ร B.
in reply to F-Droid • • •ROllerozxa
in reply to F-Droid • • •More custom F-Droid repositories are great, but I wouldn't go so far as to saluting Brave considering their track record. You took a stance against Gab in the past, please show some moral dignity now too.
(This page is a good summary of some of the issues with Brave: spacebar.news/stop-using-braveโฆ)
Stop using Brave Browser - by Corbin Davenport
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F4GRX Sรยฉbastien
in reply to F-Droid • • •F4GRX Sรยฉbastien
in reply to F-Droid • • •perhaps you should have shut your mouth about this turdware?
It's still time for PR damage control.
PickleFreak
in reply to F-Droid • • •Cassandra Granade ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธ
in reply to F-Droid • • •Hypolite Petovan
in reply to F-Droid • • •Matija Nalis
in reply to F-Droid • • •dislike... "we don't promote X, but here is a promotion of X" is a bad idea.
I would prefer if it was framed like: "While anybody can create a #Fdroid repository, there is no guarantee that it will contain fully (or even partially!) #FOSS apps. Unfortunately, that is still the situation with #Brave. We appeal to them to make #BraveBrowser fully free software by getting rid of non-free bits, so they can publish on f-droid.org - which guarantees FOSS-only apps"
@brave
desirable_dialogue
in reply to F-Droid • • •Who posted this?
Is this generally fine with other fdroid devs?
Continue to promote fascists enabler (just recently Brendan Eich teamed up with Charles Hoskinson a billionaire that promoted Trump and JFK Jr.), and I may just say goodbye.
I kind of assume this is you Licaon_Kter, is it?
Luna Lactea
in reply to F-Droid • • •Caroline Bell
in reply to F-Droid • • •There's nothing "Brave" about this browser. It's a scam run by a homophobe.
Do not promote this bullshit.
rachael laura โค๏ธ
in reply to F-Droid • • •The Shaking Earth
in reply to F-Droid • • •๐ฏbug
in reply to F-Droid • • •Jacob
in reply to F-Droid • • •Breadly
in reply to F-Droid • • •Khaleer
in reply to F-Droid • • •Strypey
in reply to F-Droid • • •(1/2)
Hey @fdroidorg, there's a very vocal peanut gallery here who cannot and will not understand strategic cooperation.
They've been mindflayed by DataFarms to the point where anything that does not perfectly fit their morality, on all counts, at all times, is the enemy. They would cancel their own Grandma for sending them a Hallmark card on their birthday, because 'promoting evil corporation'.
EDIT: typo (missing word)
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(2/2)
Because they don't understand strategic cooperation, they're useless at organising or creating anything. But they do have a knack for trying to dogpile and destroy anything that doesn't conform to their authoritarian morality.
They're very loud, but fortunately they're also completely ineffective. As FSF, FediLab, GIMP, and many other Free Code projects have found, if you do not feed the concern trolls, they eventually find a new shiny thing to hate on.
EDIT: typo (double word score)
Jesse
in reply to Strypey • • •@strypey
Mere minutes before these posts, you made another post where you questioned if Firefox was still salvageable, or if it was too enshittified.
So it feels like you are taking issue with something you just did yourself, only a few minutes before?
Maybe I don't understand? Maybe, you think your complaints are somehow more valid? Or is it to do with the volume of the complaints?
Strypey
in reply to Jesse • • •@jesse
See;
mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/114โฆ
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(1/3)
@jesse
> it feels like you are taking issue with something you just did yourself, only a few minutes before?
The difference is, read in the context of my comments a couple of days ago;
mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/114โฆ
... I'm trying to start a discussion among people who use apps based on Firefox and other software stewarded by Mozilla. About how can work with the developers who work with that software, both inside and outside Mozilla, to fix or replace its fundamentally broken governance.
Strypey
2025-07-08 13:21:42
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(2/3)
What I'm criticising here is people slamming F-Droid for criticising proprietary software wrong. That's right, the post everyone is dogpiling on was not praising Brave, it was *criticising* them for not publishing all their code under free licenses.
But instead of trying to understand the issues at play, those replies are doing what ChuckGPT does; pick out some keywords and free associate a plausible sentence in response.
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(3/3)
It's the difference between a structural analysis with a call to action, and a Two Minutes Hate.
Vincent Sparks
in reply to Strypey • • •F-Droid responded to Brave publishing a non-FOSS app on a private repo, which is not discoverable except by word of mouth, by making a post on their official Mastodon account under the FOSS hashtag explicitly telling people how to configure that repo.
They're not promoting non-FOSS software, they're criticizing it, just like Israel isn't committing a genocide, they're just defending themselves from Hamas.
tsk
in reply to Jesse • • •@jesse @strypey Yeah, um Firefox now has an "anonymized" ad tracking system...... like Brave. If the issue is "broken governance" then what is great about Brave's governance? Why has Brave's also low adoption rate somehow been the fault of Mozilla? (Bizarro...)
If you take the crap out of Firefox, you have something like Librewolf or other fine browser. If you take the crap out of Brave, you have Chromium with an ad blocker. However, the Chrome/Chromium model is inferior because it doesn't have FPI reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comโฆ .... silo-ing 3rd part content to maintain privacy is against the financial interests of both Google and Brave Inc.
Strypey
in reply to tsk • • •@tasket
I'm confused, was this directed at me or @jesse?
Just in case there's any confusion, I don't use or promote proprietary browsers, and that includes Brave. My longstanding issues with the enshittification resulting from Mozilla's pwned governance are totally unrelated to Brave.
What the F-Droid folk were doing in the OP is called "damning with faint praise". The point was to call out Brave for making their Android app is proprietary (or it could be compiled and distributed in F-Droid).
Jesse
in reply to Strypey • • •If everyone interprets your "faint praise" as regular praise, it may be a good idea to clarify how you meant the praise.
Strypey
in reply to Jesse • • •@jesse
> If everyone interprets your "faint praise" as regular praise
Do I not count as part of "everyone"?
> it may be a good idea to clarify how you meant the praise
Well that would certainly save people from having to work on their reading comprehension, or taking a minute to consider context before smashing out their Two Minutes Hate.
@tasket
Jesse
in reply to Strypey • • •@strypey @tasket
I'd assumed that with that amazing reading comprehension you possess, it would be fairly obvious that I'm using "everyone" hyperbolic here, and I mean "the majority of people replying".
After that, maybe also apply your skill to the original post. It should become obvious quite quickly that while F-Droid says they don't promote non-free software, they are in fact promoting Brave, and even linking to the installation instructions.
Jesse
in reply to Jesse • • •@strypey @tasket
I get the feeling you are trying to protect F-Droid, and I really get that. I love F-Droid too.
What I think you are missing, is that "everyone" that responds, is doing so because they also love it. They probably use and rely on F-Droid. They don't _want_ to fork it, or find an alternative.
That is why they are critical of a mistake like this.
If this was posted by Brave itself, or by another shitty organization people would simply unfollow.
From F-Droid we expect better.
Strypey
in reply to Jesse • • •(1/2)
@jesse
> linking to the installation instructions
... is strategic. It's aimed at people already using Brave, informing them of a way to avoid depending on the Goggle Prey Store. Whatever criticisms we might have of Brave - technical and social - I hope we can agree that Goggle are the bigger threat. By several thousand orders of magnitude.
@tasket
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(2/2)
Do you really think anyone would start using Brave because of this post? Why would they? When the post starts *and* ends by pointing out that Brave is non-free, so they're clearly *not* recommending it.
Perhaps @fdroid could have gone further by linking to a list of browser options currently available in the main repository. Which would be useful anyway. But that doesn't change the fact that people are totally overreacting, out of context.
Strypey
in reply to Jesse • • •> I get the feeling you are trying to protect F-Droid
Not really. The whole thrust of the post is that the shaming and splitting of the peanut gallery are no threat to anyone, except maybe themselves.
Although they do create wear-and-tear on the sense of solidarity that holds ethical tech commons together, and flood the room with counterproductive noise from time to time. All this vitriol directed at FDroid pulls the focus away from Brave being non-free. Who does that benefit?
@tasket
Jesse
in reply to Strypey • • •@strypey @tasket
Oh, so it's the _complaints_ about Brave being run by a homophobic asshole that are damaging that sense of solidarity? Have you thought about this from the perspective of the people complaining at all?
Alienating the LGBTI+ part of your existing community in order to gain a handful of new F-Droid users doesn't sound remotely like the tactical win you think it is.
Strypey
in reply to Jesse • • •@jesse
> so it's the _complaints_ about Brave being run by a homophobic asshole that are damaging that sense of solidarity?
I've spent a couple of days thinking about how to respond to this. But at the end of the day, it's of a kind with "so, when did you stop beating your wife?". I don't have to put up with this bad faith nonsense (or profoundly ignorant nonsense, I don't care which it is) in my @mentions. We're done here.
@tasket
Vincent Sparks
in reply to Strypey • • •if you would like to know why people who are commonly targets of bigotry oppose strategic cooperation, i suggest you open a history book and look at any of the times it has been tried
i will call your attention in particular to a time when it wasn't tried, the united states civil rights movement, and to Martin Luther King, who is famously quoted as saying "He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it", and to how much progress that movement made
Strypey
in reply to Vincent Sparks • • •@AVincentInSpace
> i suggest you open a history book and look at any of the times it has been tried
You can say that about absolutely anything. If you're making a case for something, as opposed to just editorialising for the sake of it, you need to be more specific. Then you need to be a *lot* more specific. See the posts I just made about polycrisis.
Vincent Sparks
in reply to Strypey • • •japan strategically collaborated with the nazis in WWII with promises of extra territory, ended the war with half the territory they started with. log cabin republicans strategically collaborated with mainstream conservatives, got thrown under the bus. radical feminists collaborated with transphobes to "keep men out of women's spaces", who then didn't care that imane khelif was cis. LGB alliance also collaborated with mainstream conservaitves to get rid of those filthy transes, guess what happened next. how many more examples do you want?
the lgbtq+ movement does not cooperate strategically with homophobes, not because we're irrational and "don't understand it" and "would cancel our own grandma for sending us a hallmark card", but because we know what happens when we do.
Strypey
in reply to Vincent Sparks • • •(1/3)
@AVincentInSpace
Firstly, that's some through cherry-picking. Of course, I can produce a laundry list of country-examples twice as long, and I'm happy to demonstrate if that's the game you want to play.
But my point was not that strategic cooperation always works, quite the opposite. So to say anything meaningful about it requires looking at the specific conditions that determine which kinds work, and which don't, and why. I'm not seeing anything like that from you so far.
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(2/3)
Secondly, what I was criticising there is not the attacks on Brave and its founder. I don't have much to add to what I said about that here;
disintermedia.substack.com/p/eโฆ
What I was frustrated by was the knee-jerk attacks on F-Droid and the handwaves about forking it. All based on the mistaken assumption that they were promoting Brave, and by implication the social attitudes of its founder. They weren't even doing any such thing;
mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/114โฆ
Ethical Technology and Political Strategy
Danyl Strype (Disintermedia)Strypey
2025-07-10 05:06:27
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •(3/3)
But there's a deeper point here, as Sun Tzu put it centuries ago in The Art of War;
"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight."
I guess this doesn't matter when social media become a substitute for politics. Because a "battle" consists of only 2 steps; send a post, job done.
But in politics, after a bit of wasting your time and resources fighting avoidable battles as a newbie activist, you learn to pick your battles. Who you confront, when, and on what ground.
Vincent Sparks
in reply to Strypey • • •let's not change the subject. your initial comment left me under the impression that you think LGBTQ+ people are stupid for not cooeprating strategically with Brave Browser and loudly stating our belief that F-Droid shouldn't either. do you believe that, and if so, why? the burden of proof for justifying why we should falls on you.
also your reply said 1/3 but there's only one post here.
Strypey
in reply to Vincent Sparks • • •@AVincentInSpace
> also your reply said 1/3 but there's only one post here
If you click on the post, your app ought to show you the full thread. That's a good idea in general, to check context. If that doesn't work, your app is broken, try opening the post in a browser.
> the impression that you think LGBTQ+ people are stupid for not cooeprating strategically with Brave Browser and loudly stating our belief that F-Droid shouldn't either
Has nothing to do with anything I said.
Vincent Sparks
in reply to Strypey • • •I am in a browser. Also, here's what you said:
> There's a very vocal peanut gallery here who cannot and will not understand strategic cooperation. They've been mindflayed by DataFarms to the point where anything that does not perfectly fit their morality, on all counts, at all times, is the enemy. They would cancel their own Grandma for sending them a Hallmark card on their birthday, because 'promoting evil corporation'.
How else should I interpret it?
Nartagnan โ
in reply to F-Droid • • •Brave ?
As in "made-by-a-nazi" brave browser ?
As in "crypto-enthusiast" browser ?
As in "not floss but still near enough look at google-android what could go wrong" browser ?
As in "we receive help and fund from facebook but privacy is our priority" browser ?
As in "made-by-a-nazi" Brave Browser ?
greem
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