The Flag of Privacy
About
It has always bothered me that privacy has no unified symbol. Every community has their own take on how privacy should be visualized. I want to unify the privacy community across the internet. It is my belief that, with a universal symbol for privacy, we will grow stronger. We will have a symbol to represent us. We will have a flag to fly.
Icon
The icon is a clipart created by librarian Gordon Dylan Johnson which can be found here. The size of the icon is large enough to still fit if the flag is cropped to a square/circular aspect ratio.
Dimensions
The size of the flag is 140 by 90 centimeters. These dimensions are chosen because of the dimensions of a Tor Browser window (1400x900 pixels).
Colors
The color blue (Azure) was chosen because it symbolizes security, stability, and reliability. The exact shade of blue used is the same azure color used by the flag of Europe, because of GDPR.
Design
This flag follows the "Principals of design" for vexillography.
Use it!
Use this flag for group chats, communities, profiles, stickers, patches, articles, wallpapers, real flags, anything you want to! Spread it around so it becomes a global icon for privacy. Even put it on the Wikipedia page for privacy if you can!
like this
π½π©π ππ₯
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •Looks amazing π here's how it is when flying
krikienoid.github.io/flagwaverβ¦
FlagWaver
krikienoid.github.ioThe 8232 Project
in reply to π½π©π ππ₯ • • •Thank you!
Is there a version that doesn't use WebGL?
π½π©π ππ₯
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •Jimbabwe
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •Embed a tracking pixel in it!
Haha, kidding of course. This is cool!
Vanth
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •Those are some fucked up palm lines. Heart line is okay ish, strong. Head and life lines are... I don't event know if those have a boilerplate reading they are so unnatural. This pirate might be headed for the love of their life or an early, traumatic death. Godspeed.
On a more serious note, I would suggest you consider simplifying the hand to a solid hand. The hand as-is would be very difficult to reproduce and draws attention from the overall flag design.
deprecateddino
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •utopiah
in reply to Orvorn • • •Come on... you do not have to like it but at least don't insult an entire field dedicated to helping fellow other beings while providing 0 suggestion.
You might be smart but you certainly are not kind.
Do better.
JayGray91ππ
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •first thought that came across my mind is the Black Hand of the Brotherhood of Nod
I guess it's nice that it follows the principles of design for flags, but it still looks off somehow. the minimalism of the eye vs the more detailed hand print seemed at odds.
A simpler less detailed hand print IMO would look better. Like the Black Hand of Nod. also less detailed Hand print = less/no fingerprinting across internet
solrize
in reply to JayGray91ππ • • •Empire of the Hand from Star Wars.
Added: yikes, lots of black hands, many unsavory.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Haβ¦
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •Except...
6. Seals, coats of arms, or logos are usually too complex to be used effectively on a flag, although exceptions exist
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •I really like the idea of a flag to unify the privacy community but I'm going to go with the consensus with the hand: it's probably a bit too complex. I think a flag should be easily made into a vector format that is easy to draw and replicate.
Say if someone wanted to draw a protest board with this on it. It would be really difficult to accurately draw the hand without good drawing skills.
PropaGandalf
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •I loved the idea, but I object to the symbology.
First off, we're against being seen. Why would we want a big creepy eye as the definition of success? Did Pirate flags show shackles and gallows? Of course not.
What are common pictograms associated with privacy? Shields. Locks. Locks on shields. Privacy is about defense and control.
Second, the blue gives me BSOD vibes. I get the EU reference, but black is super obvious here. Black it out. Redacted. Blind. All right there.
My suggestions? A shield or lock with dove at its center. Because the mass surveillance state is one of fear, not freedom or peace. Black field with blue and white stripes, white representing freedom, blue as you have it, and I guess giving a nod to Estonia's leadership in EU tech. Not that we need to rep Estonia, but I also liked their Eurovision entry this year.
lemmyknow
in reply to hansolo • • •Espresso Macchiato
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hansolo
in reply to lemmyknow • • •I was going to bet anything I was going to click and it would say "More cowbell!"
Pleasantly surprised, thank you.
halfwaythere
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •PropaGandalf
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •I get your point and idea. And I agree, there should be a symbol. But in a world full of symbols, where there is lot of symbols that overlap or mean the same thing, it's not a great thing to ad more symbols.
I would suggest, that people instead use the symbol for human rights.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Riβ¦
This logo stand for rights and freedom, which is not in opposition to anything, but for something. Article 8 in the Human Rights, are about the right to privacy:
equalityhumanrights.com/human-β¦
This should be enough. I'd suggest people use this, and support human rights in general.
logo to support the global human rights movement
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Vegafjord eo
in reply to The 8232 Project • • •You are a dreamer, and this is exactly what we need. Two hands up for that.
But before designing a flag, we first need to agree on the symbolism.
There are two types of symbols. Anti symbols and pro symbols.
Anti symbols are easier to make, because they comes from reaction. Its easy to see whats wrong. "anarchism is order" and "stop war" stickers are anti symbols.
But pro symbols are harder because they require us to understand what we are fighting for. The rainbow flag and the aboriginal flag are pro flags, because they show what they are fighting for. The rainbow flag fights for diversity, while the aboriginal flag establishes a connection between people, land and the sun.
In short, I believe that a pro symbol would be better for gleedening people into the struggle.
With this in mind, I think we should fundamenrally understand why privacy matters, and make symbols out of that.
oplkill
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in reply to The 8232 Project • • •I don't like it. It screams "FINGERPRINT ME!"
A symbol for privacy should imply privacy. Not show things that which should be protected. (like your handprints or fingerprints)
lock
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