It was the year that Ukraine was couped; the year that Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk voted by referendum to secede from Ukraine; and the year that Crimea voted by referendum to join Russia.
Do you find it hard to believe that a majority Russian & Russian-speaking people, with family and business ties in Russia, whose president they voted for had been couped, might prefer joining Russia over the far-right wing anti-Russian coup government of Ukraine?
Being targeted by nazis tends to unify populations who do indeed have varied opinions on everything else. This isn't asking people what kind of beverage they prefer, it's about sovereignty and protection from fascist paramilitaries, and, post-coup, fascist state forces.
Go look at numbers for anywhere outside of the North Atlantic Euro-American imperial core and you'll find that overwhelming majorities are commonplace.
For example, Harvard conducted a 15-year study of Chinese citizens living in China and found that 95.5% of them supported their national government and believed it was working in their best interests.
So they say, but there are Nazis fighting for Russia. Wagner group, named after Richard Wagner whose music Hitler was fond of. One of their founders and leaders was openly a Nazi. Rusich group also operates within Wagner and their leader is even more of a Nazi.
The links between the Russian state and right-wing extremist groups are numerous. But it seems to me in general that ultranationalist/fascist groups have stronger support in former Soviet states than elsewhere. Russia and Ukraine are no exception.
I see plenty of people, even on this site, who are calling for peace in Ukraine. Unfortunately they get shouted down by armchair warriors who just see all this as part of their geopolitical 'game'.
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in reply to jackeroni • • •davel
in reply to SatansMaggotyCumFart • • •Still not a genocide. There is no war where women, children, and other civilians don’t end up getting killed.
Noam Chomsky: Russia is fighting more humanely than the US did in Iraq
Also, a lot of people seem to think that this started in Feb. of 2022 when it really started eight years before.
- BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
- Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
- The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
- The Guardian, 2017: 'I want to bring up a warrior': Ukraine's far-right children's camp – video
- Washington Post, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
- Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
- The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
- openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
- Kyiv Post, 2019: United Nations: 13,000 killed, 30,000 injured in Donbas since 2014
- Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
- New York Times, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
Volodymyr Ishchenko (Al Jazeera)SatansMaggotyCumFart
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in reply to SatansMaggotyCumFart • • •How A False Flag Massacre Led To The Proxy War In Ukraine
The DissidentSatansMaggotyCumFart
in reply to davel • • •That’s the referendum with 89% voter turnout where 97% voted to leave Ukraine?
Those are almost unbelievable numbers.
davel
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in reply to davel • • •Getting 89% of people to do anything with 97% of those agreeing is impressive.
Even with the least controversial opinions there will be 20-25% who typically disagree.
GiantSpoonWielder
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in reply to SatansMaggotyCumFart • • •Go look at numbers for anywhere outside of the North Atlantic Euro-American imperial core and you'll find that overwhelming majorities are commonplace.
For example, Harvard conducted a 15-year study of Chinese citizens living in China and found that 95.5% of them supported their national government and believed it was working in their best interests.
Amnesigenic
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in reply to jackeroni • • •So they say, but there are Nazis fighting for Russia. Wagner group, named after Richard Wagner whose music Hitler was fond of. One of their founders and leaders was openly a Nazi. Rusich group also operates within Wagner and their leader is even more of a Nazi.
The links between the Russian state and right-wing extremist groups are numerous. But it seems to me in general that ultranationalist/fascist groups have stronger support in former Soviet states than elsewhere. Russia and Ukraine are no exception.
Ensign_Crab
in reply to SatansMaggotyCumFart • • •We're not selling weapons to russia for genocide.
There's a lot of people who have a problem with russia but dearly love everything netanyahu is doing.
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